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Canelo Alvarez’s next fight had been rumoured to be Jermall Charlo, but instead it is twin brother Jermell Charlo facing the Mexican on September 30; Canelo is the undisputed world champion at super-middleweight, with Jermell jumping up two weight divisions from super-welterweight

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12912747/canelo-alvarez-to-face-jermell-charlo-in-undisputed-las-vegas-showdown-on-september-30

If anybody sees odds for the fight please share in the thread.

Thanks.

This is a big turn of events if this is final then we can request bisdak40 to close the other thread so we can have the discussion here, but whoever Charlo Canelo is fighting, Canelo is still going to win, he can beat both brothers because their style and power is no match against Canelo, it's better than Jermell is the one facing, Jermall has a two year lay off and he'll have ring rust compared to Jermell who has fought last and beat Castano by knock out.
This is more interesting as both fighters are undisputed in their respective division.

Wow, this is nuts, i mean of the two Jermall has the higher chance of betting Canelo than Jermell because the latter would jump up two-weight division just to face the unified champion at 168lbs division.

Whoever of the twin brother he will face, surely for me this is cherry-picking at its finest, how come they can't come up with a fight with Benavidez where that would generate more gate revenue than this one?

Will temporarily close the other thread as I think Jermell will be the likely opponent as per the article but no contracts has been signed yet so nothing is set in stone but I would like the discussion to be focused on this thread for now.

There are videos circulating, not sure what Canelo fight they are watching, but you can clearly hear him saying that he can beat Canelo.

Now is his chance though, he is going to fight the cash cow and skip Tim and go up and jump to 168 lbs just to fight Alvarez. So this is good as compare to his brother who is inactive. I haven't check the odds though, maybe it will be just the same as his twin. So regardless, it will still be Canelo becoming the favorite in this fight.

Or Canelo beating both Charlo's at the same night,  ;D. But I do agree, at least he is fighting a Charlo that at least is active, although he will be coming from a injury. He is supposedly to fight Tszyu early this year. Hopefully Tim will be elevated as full champion now since their fight in not happening as Jermell chooses to fight Alvarez for his biggest payday. I'm excited about it, as we can see a lot of fanfare and thrash talking as well as brothers have a big mouth too. Or will they let respect because they know they don't want to wake up Canelo and put a fire on his belly regarding this fight as it's going to be very dangerous for him. So let's see what route Jermell will go here.

Nice, as I have said in the previous thread, everyone might be caught off guard with Jermell now facing Canelo, It's all business for PBC and Charlo and Canelo himself. Perhaps he has read the backlash from the boxing community about him and PBC choosing Jermall as Canelo's dance partner as Jermall is inactive. So they look for the best opponent for Canelo at PBC outside of Benavidez and that is his twin brother Jermell. Weight might be an issue as he is fighting at 154 lbs. Nevertheless he will have all the time in the world to bulk up to 168 lbs and most likely this could be his dream fight or at least both of the Charlo wanted to fight Alvarez. But I guess majority will still favor the natural super middleweight champion in Canelo here.

I guess people will be seriously talking about this fight, discussing the chances of both boxers. Jermell Charlo is active unlike his brother, so I would expect him to give Canelo a hard time or even defeat him. This is the type of fight that fans would love to see—something that is hard to predict in terms of the winner. Although I believe the bookies would favor Canelo as the favorite to win this fight, who cares? I just think Jermell Charlo is a tough opponent.

Bookies favored both fighter's, tickets selling faster, who wants to watch the big game. They both have ring experience and know how to take down their opponents, and this time they come into contact with each other completely prepared for the big encounter. Both fighters have a comparable chance of winning, but only one can be triumphant. I'm a fan of both fighters, but I'm obliged to support only one of them. Who will it be? Canelo Alvarez or Jermell Charlo? I'm rooting for Canelo. A challenging bout with no definitive winner in which but the strongest combatants emerge triumphant.

Right, at least Jermell is more active and even has a schedule fight that has been postponed and this could be a blessing in disguise as the money will still be with Charlo's, LOL.

And as you have said, Jermell is a live dog so let's see. This could be very well be a competitive fight. Only problem I see is that he will have to go up in weight, but we don't know if he can do it or maybe it will be just easy for him as naturally this twins are bigger boxer at 154-160 lbs.

Remember that Canelo didn't have a good performance against John Ryder in Mexico. And there are a lot of boxing fans who are somewhat disappointed with his performance as he is expected to win by a knockout. And maybe he was really affected by his hand injuries. So he need to pick a fighter that he has a good chance to beat without damaging his legacy.

And maybe after this it will be Benavidez as it is reported that his deal with Al Haymon includes a fight with David.

What could be worse than jumping two weight categories or not fighting for two years, either way, both brothers are no match against Canelo, Canelo would not even think if it's Jermell or Jermall he is too good to worry about who's facing the two.

We all expect that after Benavidez's last fight, Benavidez has been chasing Canelo for the longest time and he is insulting Benavidez by going against Jermell or Jermall or whoever Charlo it will be.

It's good that you did but we never know, it's still a cherry-picked fight and Canelo will still enjoy the accolade there's the least challenge in this fight.

I don't think Canelo's performance was bad against John Ryder, Canelo's performance is still good but Ryder is a true warrior since his nose was broke and he still able to continue the fight until the last round. But it's true Canelo is looking to fight with an opponent that wouldn't able to beat him, Jermall Charlo is one of the example.

The possibility Charlo to beat Canelo is pretty low, I'm more interested to watch Canelo vs Benavidez.

Canelo dominated John Ryder that's what I saw it's just that Ryder is one tough guy, Canelo need not win by knocking out his opponents all the time, it's enough that he dominate the fight unanimous decision is still good, I don't rule out an upset on this fight because Jermell has proven his knock out power, for Jermell to have a chance against Canelo he needs to take the initiative and do what Bivol did never step back and do a lot of counter punches.
Jermell is in the fight of his life, and there will be a major shake-up if Jermell upsets Canelo.

It is really weird because if you had a twin brother it is OK to be your proxy for the fight rather than to cancel the fight because of Jermell Charlo's hand injury on the sparring and before this, he should be defending his title against Tim Tszyu instead of Canelo Alvarez, but yeah I guess the Tim Tszyu fight was all canceled and right now the Canelo Alvarez should also go into the kitchen sink because it could be another picked fight for Canelo Alvarez, but because of hand injury Jermell Charlo will be having a proxy fighter and this is with the 35 wins and 1 lost and 1 draw, Jermell Charlo, instead of the 32 wins 0 losses Jermall Charlo, Jermell's twin brother,

It should be an undisputed Jermall Charlo instead we will be having Jermell Charlo instead, it was a confusing sight to behold in my opinion, but still a great fight to watch even though we got his most experienced twin brother to fight on Sept 30, in Las Vegas,

Doesn't really make sense at all because Jermell have to jump across two weight class just for this fight and I actually agree with you mate, comparing the two, Jermall is much more suitable as he got more talent and just one weight class away from super-middleweight. Although, he is inactive for 2 years but I reckon that he can at least make a difference compared to his brother who is also inactive for more than 1 year.


With Canelo's recent situation that got his wrist in a surgery, he is no longer sure if he can defend his belts against Benavidez. He can duck and give many reasons but it is already clear for me.

Jermell can bulk up and his height is decent at 168. But still, it is 14 pounds added to his body and he is not used to fighting at 168. I also doubt Jermell has the power to back off Canelo. Canelo will be aggressive in this fight and would score a stoppage.

David Benavidez and Jermall Charlo are probably next after Jermell. I doubt there are any other popular names PBC can offer to Canelo's 3-fight deal. WBA regular, David Morrell would've been perfect together with WBC interim David Benavidez but the former's market can be a problem knowing that PBC invested a lot of money to get Canelo and it needs to make marketable fights in order to profit from the deal.

And let's not forget that Canelo might have felt uncomfortable at that time as he just had a surgery a couple of months prior the fight, he just had to face John Ryder in-order to keep him warm while avoiding the risk of inactivity. Canelo got all the plans set and fighting Charlo is included in it, and I can tell that he will not let go of Bivol until he can get that deal done because it is still a win-win situation for him.

As per Jermell Charlo, no offense but I don't really see him winning against Canelo because he will face a very tough challenge for jumping two divisions and facing the strongest boxer in SMW directly. He will have no time to adjust as that will literally take some time off his clock.

I very much agree. It appears for this fight Canelo only wants to collect money before his next real challenge which will be another round of negotiations for a rematch vs. Bivol. I speculate that he also does not want to fight Benavidez because it is risky and Canelo will lose his opportunity for Bivol if he is not the champion.

Canelo vs. Charlo is similar to an altcoin ICO. Hype it then take the money. Fans go home shaking their heads after watching an ordinary fight hehe.

Yes, although we can score it as bad performance because we are used to Canelo taking down his opponents with body shots, but after he has his second lost from the hands of Bivol Canelo with his hand injuries could have back off at least and test how good or bad his hands is.

And Ryder is huge and one tough fighter, that's why Canelo has a hard time to knocking his down and I will say that he could be bigger than Canelo fight now. So the heavier your opponent, the chances of him going down are slim unless you soften him up which Canelo can't accomplished because again, Ryder is very game opponent for him and did take Canelo's best shot.

But Canelo is no longer with Eddie Hearn, he has moved to PBC and Al Haymon, and maybe it's very tough to do the negotiations for the rematch for Bivol. If he really wanted a rematch then he could at least agree for a 1 fight deal with Hearn. But Canelo doesn't want any of that, Bivol is too fast for him to deal with.

Now, facing another Charlo, this time is the active now. So yeah, 3 fight deal and the first fight is going to be easy for him.

And as you have said, just to collect money and in the next 2 fights, probably the bigger Benavidez but we will have to wait and see.

Hahaha, very true. We have seen how Canelo performed against Ryder which many thought that he would demolish the latter as a bounce-back performance after that loss to Bivol but that doesn't happen and we didn't see that extraordinary effort on Canelo's side so this time around I don't expect Canelo would be extraordinary. It would be better for his promoters to realize this so they will give the fans what they really wanted, a fight with Bivol or Benavidez.

Other reasons for that fight that I would like to think is that Canelo was advised by his doctor to be cautious about his wrist as it's not yet fully healed and he might get back to square one and risks the future fights if he will go all out, the only goal at that time was just to win and not to get a massive bounce back after his loss.

But that's just my though though :D There might be a reason or there might not, who knows. In this upcoming fight, it will be hard to bet against the undisputed but I wouldn't expect a KO outcome.

If you're a Canelo fanatic you'll still watch to support Canelo whoever he is fighting, if you're a neutral boxing fanatic you'll watch to see if there are unexpected things that are going to happen if you're a Charlo fan, you'll watch to support Charlo even though his chances are not good, people will watch because these are big names and both champions too even though the gap of skills and power is very obvious, but like all of you Canelo cannot go on avoiding Benavidez, he'll have to meet him in the ring if he wants his status as a superstar to remain.

I don't think it was the doctors though, for sure doctors are not going to give him the green light to fight if his injuries are not fully heal. I would say that this normal for boxers to have fighters or hands injuries. So this is a careful matchmaking on the part of Canelo's team and others says that this is a cherry pick fight for him.

And with that, let's give Jermell Charlo the balls for facing Canelo and he might have to thank his brother as well for initially accepting the fight and then bailing out to let Jermell take it as maybe they have the "plans" on how to beat Alvarez.

Well for sure his team won't allow him to fight with a handicap 'coz they'd be losing their gem. Indeed as others have mentioned this is quite of a turn of event. Canelo still got the 'juice' for sure but Charlo isn't someone to be picked on without caution. As we ll know, this would be another must watch match but with this, I think I'd go with Charlo this time. A big fan of Canelo but everyone ages, his time is coming near as a pro boxer and this would be a good boost to Charlo's career, with that, I'm expecting him to be more of what he usually is. And on the other haand, Canelo is having a hard time at his aage, in every match. But I will definitely enjoy the match no maatter who the winner is.

That's what others are seeing as well, Canelo is ageing, and the wear and tear might have been taken it's toll to him already. Nevertheless, if there is one fight that he needs to focus and be 100% not just his body but his emotions and minds as well, this should be the fight.

This is the first of his fight with PBC and he doesn't want to underestimate the small Charlo who has to go up in weight from 154 lbs to 168 lbs because he will still be dangerous. And if Canelo won by fashion here, either by knockout or stoppage or even a dominant decision win, then we can say that Canelo is not done yet and pretty much a lot of fights inside of him.

We might only witness Canelo's best against opponents like Bivol or Benavidez. These are other opponents are only accepted by Canelo to warm his body and to make his money.

On Canelo's future, he might make one more offer for Bivol, if he does not accept, I speculate Canelo will try to negotiate a big money fight with Benavidez then retire.

I don't think he will retire at 32 he is still in a peak of his career, boxers will only retire when his body cannot keep up anymore, boxers career span is very short with the exception of great fighters like Pacquiao, he will continue to fight he is in a division where there are a lot of prospects and I don't think he reaches the epitome of his career to be called the greatest Mexican fighter of all time or even the greatest boxer of all time.

Canelo just signed a 3-fight deal with PBC that will start with Jermell Charlo and then Benavidez and Jermall as the most potential next opponents. Canelo will be 34 after that deal. And we're not sure if he gets past Benavidez or an active Jermall next year.

Without a doubt, Canelo has ambitions of becoming the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. Provided Canelo wins all his PBC fights, he might continue his career and will look for fights that will add to his legacy including a move to cruiserweight if a champion accepts weight limit and rehydration clause. He can go back to Matchroom in order to rematch Bivol, but it won't be easy. Bivol is younger than Canelo and has a more conservative long-lasting style. 

Yes, that might be the case but that decision comes with some risks because if he choose to fight Bivol or Benavidez in a later date, we cannot really expect that he will be fighting just like the way he used to because that also means that he is much older by that time and there's wear and tear that could play a big factor to his upcoming fights.
Speaking about age, Canelo Alvarez will turn and celebrate his 33rd birthday this coming 18th.

Ok we might as well get back to the Charlo again, as last weekend we have seen them in the crowd against Crawford. But they have seen how Crawford beat their boy Spence so for sure they wanted to get back in the ring ASAP.

And Jermell said that they have the recipe to beat Canelo, hehehe.

But we will see, he will be jumping 2 weight class to chase a bigger paycheck against the cash cow Canelo.

Hmm.. 2 weight class division jump, isn't this too much? Oh well we never know Manny did jump 2 weight class and dominates the division but I do not think this will also be the case here.  Canelo is very convenient fighting in his weight Division and can even go higher in weight division so I think Jermell Charlo is asking for a beating here.  I am also expecting a boring fight here but who knows, maybe Canelo will overpower and KO Jermell here because of his natural weight advantage.

Manny Pacquiao's case is a bit different though because he made that long haul climb way back when he was still young where he skipped super-fly and bantam, compared to Jermell Charlo now who is already 33 years old and for the record, Charlo will only skip one weight class, just the middleweight because he will meet Canelo at super-middle.

More news about Jermell Charlo, I just learned today that he will be stripped of his WBO title (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/8/3/23818328/jermell-charlo-stripped-wbo-title-after-fight-canelo-alvarez-tim-tszyu-elevated-boxing-news-2023#:~:text=Jermell%20Charlo%20to%20be%20stripped,Tszyu%20elevated%20%2D%20Bad%20Left%20Hook) and will not be an undisputed champion anymore. At the same time, Tim Tszyu will now be a full WBO champion because Charlo's stripping is described as imminent.

It's not common for fighters to go up two weight divisions at once, not unless you're Manny Pacquiao and you know damn well how to carry yourself and train for the said bump in classes. With that said, I don't think Charlo will have an easy time in this division. Hopefully he'd be humbled by Canelo in their fight and realize that he's not ready to take on the super middleweight class just yet. This is a Canelo-sided victory, that's for damn sure.

His twin, who is supposedly the original boxer scheduled to fought Alvarez campaigns at 160 lbs. So most likely Jermell body can accommodate as high as 168 lbs too. Manny Pacquiao is very different though, he started the whole era of jumping in weight class. But I doubt that someone can replicate what he had done because he is a legend.

I would disagree about the boring fight, Canelo wanted to make a statement that he is the cash cow and so with that, for sure he will try to go for a knockout to shut the mouth of this Charlo twins.

It could be a big jump, but we really don't know what's the real body weight of this twins, the other one fight at 160 lbs. But if you look at one advantage of Charlo against Canelo, is that they are taller. So perhaps that added height might help him to put more weight in his body and it can still take that even if he is jumping 2 weight classes here.

I'm not seeing a boring fight though, Canelo might is getting slower as he is 33 years old. Still prime years for boxer, but the wear and tear early on his career might be taking a toll right now, he started at a very young age and maybe this is the reason why Charlo thinks he has a good chance against him at this point and willing to jump higher in weight class.

Yeah, he could be up there with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr as one of the greatest Mexican fighter or at least in the modern era if he wins his 3 fight deal with PBC. However, I don't know if you will agree with me, but it seems that Canelo is on a decline, starting with a lost to Bivol and then his last fight against John Ryder in Mexico, he was not impressive, causing some fans to question if he still has it or not.

So this fight is very important for him, maybe if he is on the decline, he could still win in a narrow score in the judges score card. But if he chooses a taller and natural 168 lbs in Benavidez, it might be his another L, in my opinion.

Canelo die-hard fans will surely argue with you about that because they have a reason that Canelo just had his wrist done with a surgery, which is the reason why he was a bit declining in his fight against John Ryder even if that was a win on their side. Overall, they cannot deny it that Canelo is indeed showing some negative signs plus that Bivol loss is a tough one to digest and even Canelo himself is having a hard time going through that.

If you'll ask me, I'd say that there is a good chance that David Benavidez will deliver Canelo's 3rd loss in his career because the kid definitely have a talent that can somehow match with the current Canelo specially after the fact that he is not the same Canelo anymore. Afterwards, maybe it will just be a money fight but if he cares for his legacy and name, he will not scathe it even more as he will just be a stepping stone in the industry if he continues to fight.

Yeah, his performance against John Ryder is a sign that Canelo is declining. But we have the argument that he is coming from a hand injury so let's give him a benefit of a doubt. But if he had another bad performance here, to the point that he lost the fight and was gifted by a decision by the judges then Canelo and his camp will have to take a closer look as to who will they fight next.


I also wanted to see this fight, a young and tall and has power in both hands and he is very fast as well. The only issue I see with David Benavidez is his weight. I read that he had balloon to somewhere to 200 lbs off season. Meaning he doesn't have the discipline to maintain his weight and so he cuts and lose a lot of pounds to meet 168 lbs and for sure Canelo will have a rehydration clause on him.

Isn't Canelo team docking Benavidez?  The main reason is that Canelo team has no confidence that their boxer will win against Benavidez.  They wanted to maintain Canelo being the cash cow and don't want to spoil their means of getting money.  If Canelo fight Benavidez and got KO'ed or got a controversial win, then I believe the popularity of Canelo will suffer and it is obvious that it will affect their cash cow's capability to bring more money .  This is also the reason why they are prioritizing smaller boxer to fight so that they can have a bigger chance of winning and continue to make Canelo their source of huge funds.

Nobody can deny or confirm that claim but judging the current picture, it sure looks to me as well that Canelo and his team is ducking for a possible fight with Benavidez. They are just hiding behind the reason that Benavidez doesn't have anything to offer that is why a a fight with him will have no benefit for Canelo, I mean obviously that is the case because Canelo currently holds all four belts. To add that, these sanctioning bodies aren't doing something to give Canelo a mandatory fight against Benavidez.

And to add again, it is the same situation for the Bivol vs Canelo rematch because Bivol's camp already said that Canelo's camp are just acting that they want a rematch but in reality, there are not moving at all and we know what might be the reasons for that.

For now it looks that way, but there are speculations that the 3 fight deal that he signs with Al Haymon included a fight with David Benavidez, so it's early to call that he docks him. According to Canelo, Benavidez doesn't have any in his resume that interest Canelo to fight for him. But maybe later, or as what the news says, Benavidez is rumoured to be fighting Andrade next.

So maybe if Benavidez win and then Canelo beat Jermell Charlo, they could set up a fight in Mexican Cinco de Mayo next year. So we will see, Canelo is really looking for this big payday fight in his 3 fight deal.

Is Dmitry Bivol included in the 3-fight deal that Canelo signed with Al Haymon? Because I'm not that sure if Canelo is still making a move for that one as it seems that the discussion between them has gotten cold now and already fell into pieces as Bivol's camp are in the silent zone as well. So anyway, a fight with David Benavidez is what I wanted to see in the future and hopefully there will be no excuses like the kid is not yet on that level to become rightful to fight Canelo because that just doesn't make any sense. And if Canelo will try to delay that fight, I hope he knows that the advantage is gradually transitioning towards Benavidez as there's no high hopes anymore for Canelo if he's already a year or two older than his age now.

Mike Tyson himself had something to say about this fight. He seems to believe that Jermall Charlo is going to lose this fight and that Canelo Alvarez will easily beat him, without much of a struggle. Charlo said "Mike Tyson is Mike Tyson — he could say whatever he wants". But I think that the winner is going to be obvious here and Mike, with his years of expert experience, saw it coming. Sure Charlo had a good rise from his weight division but he is still not ready for Alvarez. Ambition combined with pure and unadulterated willpower alone cannot win fights for very long.

This shows the good chemistry with the Charlo and Mike Tyson.Because Tyson never praise any one for the game without the boxer had good game.He is the god of Boxing as like the Lara,Sachin tendulkar to the cricket.The experience person will say the person who win the game by the view.So this had some sense is my opinion,the Jermall going to win the game by the K.O of Canelo.It doesn't mean Canelo doesn't had a game,the game of Charlo was ambitious game and he had more will power to win the game.

I guess we don't need to be a Mike Tyson so see who is going to win this fight. I mean, Charlo is good at 154 lbs, but this is a totally different league for him at 168 lbs and this is the best weight class for Canelo Alvarez.

He is just lucky that he was given this chance and opportunity to fight Alvarez and most likely because of his good relationship with Al Haymon. If not, then there could be other fighters can could line up for Canelo. But I guess Canelo is too smart not to sign with Match Room and instead go to PBC as they don't have a stable of good 168 lbs fighters.

I'm not really sure what you mean though, Tyson has been praising a lot of boxers, from Inoue, to Francis Ngannou to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. Not sure if you are also aware that Mike Tyson has a podcast that he guest fighters so to he is very known to give credits to this fighters.

So not surprise that he will support Canelo here is that is the case. For sure he has his reasons and for us it's obvious too. Jumping 2 weight classes and then fighting the best super Middleweight, we can commend Charlo for having the balls but that's it. After this fight, he should go back to 154 lbs and fight Crawford.

The only advantage I can see that Charlo has is that Canelo is not that the same anymore but still, that doesn't change the fact that his odds to win the fight are much smaller compared to the latter who has already proven throughout the times that he is indeed the best boxer at 168 and once the P4P King. Besides, it doesn't have to be that complicated to figure out who have the upper hand in this fight and we sure know who's who that is why a lot of people are doubting Charlo's move towards Canelo because that is indeed a big jump just to fight Canelo and have a big paycheck.

Canelo Alvarez has proven a lot of things in the boxing industry he is champion that very strong, and even some toughest boxer in all time he defeated without a doubt Canelo is very strong and tough boxer in his division. But sd of now jermell charlo will face canelo alvarez which if we base on the background of charlo we can say that ge is one of the strong boxers. And ye this fight will be the biggest fight in all-time.

Well, we cannot deny that Canelo is one of the strongest fighters, I also like how this boxer does his things, as his way of training shows us, it should also be noted that he is a boxer who is quite a searcher of things on social networks because he always We have seen him that he likes to attract attention and do things that others do not, so it is something different, with respect to Jermell I cannot say less, he is a boxer who has great technique, a good punch, I like how he uses the left, I don't like his way of blocking or defending blows, he is a boxer that I sometimes see that he is and it is easy to make a counterattack and he does not have much capacity except by embracing, it is the only thing, here the one who could have an advantage is Canelo because he does not manage his defense and attack a little better, besides that he is a more versatile boxer and he sticks to what is in the ring, he is more bearable and has a lot of intelligence when fighting.

and Canelo's coach saves nothing:

Canelo’s trainer: “First, Jermell, then go after Jermall Charlo”


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Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/canelos-trainer-first-jermell-then-go-after-jermall-charlo/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/canelos-trainer-first-jermell-then-go-after-jermall-charlo/)

Well, many things can be speculated, but I prefer that this fight take place first, let's see how Canelo fares with the result, there are always many possibilities, but here in boxing anything can happen, it's not that Canelo is sure about it. 1005 and things go the best way, he can also lose, and in the event that Canelo loses, how will they do later? what fights could be for Canelo, because when a boxer loses he is not so valued to fight, at least that is what it seems to me, I don't see any other way, from what I have seen in boxing fights and worldwide things are handled like this.

Personally, I really like Canelo's fighting style, his strategy is good, in addition to the fact that he is a very tough fighter, it is quite difficult to take him down, in the case of Jermell I should prepare myself with a very high level of demand, in Canelo's case too, because an unpleasant surprise for him would not go down well with him or his career, this may be something that we can always see as an option whether they win or not, but for Canelo it is fatal that he could lose.

14 lbs is too huge of a difference.  A tough 168 lbs fighting a  154 lbs even if this 154 lbs is a heavy hitter does not need any special ability to see who is at the advantage.  Even if we consider Charlo's punching power is devastating at 154 lbs, he is fighting a tough opponent that can absorb heavy punches from light heavyweight opponent.  And they are fighting at the most comfortable division of Canelo.  So almost all odds are against Charlo.  Even speed is against Charlo on this because adding more weight will hamper is agility.

Jermell is the better and fairer opponent here. Jermall should be given ample time for his comeback. And when he finally does, he shouldn't be facing a Canelo Alvarez right away. He should be facing a tune-up fight first.

Even the active Jermell is expected to be having a hard time fighting against Canelo. His weight adjustment alone is enough challenge for him already. I hope he turns out athletic enough to keep Canelo at bay with efficient jabs.

I think Canelo at -230 and Jermell at +170 are fair enough odds.

Might be more reasonable if this bout is catchweight but it isn't and that will really give Canelo an advantage in this fight because Jermell will have to face a lot of difficulties before he can reach Canelo's division and after that it's not yet over because he then will have to face a natural 168 lbs. boxer which is an added difficulty to him. Not sure how would this fight go for him but I know that it will always favor Canelo without a doubt.

I doubt that Canelo can go lower than 168 lbs though if they go for a catchweight. It will be draining for him as he is used to his weight and as we all know what when we grow older, we are bound to really gain weight so I don't think that catchweight is possible here.

So it's on Jermell side to really accept the fight or not. And in this case he is willing to go up in weight so we can say that the weight could not be an issue.

And it's interesting what I read that Canelo is targeting the twins, it was supposedly Jermall in this fight but his 154 lbs twin Jermell step up and take his spot. But if Canelo wins, it is said that he is going to fight Jermall the 160 lbs champion at 168 lbs.

The fact that this bout already materialized means that Charlo is eager and confident enough to go up in weight and skip some weight class just to fight Canelo at the latter's own dominant weight class. Not sure what he thinks by the way because I don't see any reasons why should I side him on this path or bet with him because he even pursued this fight without having any warm up for his inactivity.

For me, this is just a money fight and Charlo was already tired waiting for someone that can give him a competitive paycheck that is why he is now going to fight Canelo at 168 even if it that will mean that he will be stripped of his WBO or is it WBC and a possible lose as well.

Yes, and sometimes it's going to be an excuse if they lost because of weight issues like rehydration clause by the camp of Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia or even Spence who says that 147 lbs for him doesn't feel right.

But in this case it's very different, but still though, maybe in the end Charlo will say that it's too much for him to jump 2 weight class. But he has agreed with the terms though so hopefully there will be no excuses after he lost the fight here.

I totally think that Charlo has the disadvantage of weight class here. 14 pounds is way too big a difference and that will obviously be one of the main reasons why Charlo will go down. Although if they were both in the same weight class, then I might even give Charlo the benefit of the doubt and say that he could take Canelo, just from looking at his fierce fighting history. If he was smart enough to admit that then he would not go for such an unbalanced fight. But I think that Charlo might be a bit stubborn, so I doubt he will admit that he is biting too far above his weight class.

His naivety or arrogance is what I am going to be counting on. Easy bet.
Although I doubt that Charlo will be making pathetic excuses if he even were to lose.

I didn't say that he has a advantage in this fight, but the fact that he accepts the challenge and thinks that he has a chance to bet this Canelo in his best weight although he could have been in a lot of wear and tear, says something about this Charlo twins.

And yeah, this could be arrogance in their side. This has been their persona though, and even if he lost a fight before to Tony Harrison, they insist that they have won that fight. Give credit to him though for the rematch as he get back his title. But sometimes when you lost, you are going to be humbled and I think Canelo will bring pain again to Jermell Charlo at 168 lbs.

There shouldn't be an issue because he chose this path for a reason where he will be needing to jump weight classes and it will be a big embarrassment if he will starts making an excuse upon his defeat because people already know the chances beforehand and it's not that he is expected to make a miracle. He just should just stick with it and move on but if in case he wins, he can have all the credit for it because it will mean that he will be the new undisputed at 168. But first, we'll see what he can do against Canelo.

We will know more of that once the both of them is done sharing the same stage as either way, only one will come out smiling and winning in this fight because I don't think that a draw is one of the possible outcomes in this fight. And so, I guess we should rule that out too.

As per speculations, it is not that shocking anymore that people are rooting for Canelo over Charlo because how can we go against the undisputed champion if the challenger isn't even from super middleweight division.

Maybe there is a small percentage that thinks Charlo will have a chance against Canelo because they keep on telling that they know how to beat Alvarez and it seems they are really that obsessed to challenge Canelo. But this is super middleweight, in which Canelo is the king. Even one of the best middleweight in GGG didn't win against Canelo although the first fight could be debatable.

So we will see if the Charlo has found the blue print on how to beat Canelo or they are just hyping their fight and going out in public and claiming that they can beat him even if they will have to go up 2 weight classes.

If Charlo can withstand Canelo's heavy punches then there is a possibility for Charlo to win the fight.  By outboxing Canelo Alvarez and dominating every round and making sure  that it is a clear domination.  It is possible that Charlo might be faster than Canelo, so if he can take advantage on the speed, there is really a chance for Charlo to win a fight.

Yeah, that is another question that needs to be answered. But if we look at boxing though, if you are not a natural fighter on that weight class, then if you gotten hit by a natural bigger guy for sure you're going to felt the power. So for sure Jermell's chin are going to be tested, there are a lot of good boxers that feel on Canelo's power. They have all good and decent chin but once Canelo's landed his left hook or even his body punch, for sure Charlo will feel that although he doesn't want everyone to see it. So it's a big challenge for him.

Then he needs to be Bivol, or at least controlled aggression and then throw a lot of punches in volume so that Canelo can't counter. But I haven't seen that style of Jermell though. He seems to be throwing everything with bad intent and try to score a knockout.

He has a good job, but I don't see if every effective as well to Canelo as Alvarez is good at reading that and then counter. What he can do is that Canelo is known to be a slow starter, so he could take advantage of those early round but received some in the middle so that he can stay with Canelo.

Here is the Los Angeles face-off between the two fighters, this is mega fight so it's going to be big fight,

https://img.youtube.com/vi/Crp4_sIBx6U/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crp4_sIBx6U)

So two undisputed boxers here, Charlo says that he will beat Canelo, so we will see. Hype has started already for this superfight.

^^ Very interesting that Jermell Charlo is not doing any trash talking in this fight? Or he doesn't want to get himself into the skin of Canelo? Make his mad and then suffer what others had in the ring before him, like Caleb Plant who trash talk Canelo and then he got knock out.

So it's really a change of atmosphere for him. But let's see, as I have said, both teams are very respectful to each other, maybe it's the language barrier or what. But it's good to see that this fight is going to happen, 2 undisputed boxers, MW and SW.

There are only two reasons I see why Jermell Charlo is not saying something against Canelo Alvarez, first is because he respects Canelo because of what he have achieved in the boxing industry and also became a pound for pound king. But I personally don't really see that reason because he can even throw some trashtalk to Crawford who recently became the first boxer to attain two undisputed titles in two separate divisions and Charlo doesn't even bother to talk back.

Or maybe it's the second, where he doesn't want to make Canelo angry because he might regret his decision later on because his win on their upcoming bout isn't even decent enough to consider that he can really afford to upset Canelo in his own comfortable division.

I agree, it's most likely the second opinion of yours, the doesn't want to Canelo angry leading up to the fight and make it personal. Because if he did, then it could be a different animal in Canelo again that we will see in the ring.

So most likely this is what one part of their game plan with Canelo, just style relax and don't let Canelo be emotional and make this fight very personal because they might have to regret it after the fight.

then again agility tend to exhaust more, bagging that punch at early rounds might already change the tide of the fight significantly for charlo.
regardless though even if he losses, at least thats what to be expected but if he could pull that win with some manuever at the early rounds then this gonna be phenomenal.
but i'd still put my bet in canelo.

It could be the brain of Derick James not to engage Canelo and his team, not trash talk and respect just like what James put into the mind of Spence Jr against Crawford. But it seems it back fired on them although we can argue that it is not related as Spence is like a weight drain at 147 lbs.

But this is very different, and if we look at Charlo standing at Canelo, doesn't much of a difference maybe. So a jump of 2 weight classes might not affect Jermell here as he could have been walking 160 lbs++ already. And it this might he doesn't have to lose that extra weight.

I cannot wait for this fight to happen. I still believe that Canelo will return to his old beast form since he is more motivated to train harder against a fellow undisputed. Charlo may possess the skills and power that enabled him to become undisputed at 154 but he is moving up 2 divisions north. Canelo will be too big come fight night and he will continue to march forward to get a stoppage. And Jermell does not have enough power to make Canelo reluctant to come forward.

After this fight, Jermell said he will return to 154 and defend his remaining 3 belts against Terrence Crawford. Win or lose to Canelo I'm still doubtful about his plan of dropping back in weight. If he gets KO'd by Canelo then Bud will also demolish him at 154.

Yes, and we have seen boxers like Roy Jones Jr, who went as high as HW division to win a belt and then go back to 168 - 175 lbs and he wasn't the same anymore. And this could happen to Charlo as well, win or lose if he cuts back to 2 weight class down after fighting as high as 168 lbs, could have a devastating effect on his body.

But of course, we want him and Crawford at 154 lbs and there has been a lot of trash talking between this two party at the Spence vs Crawford fight. So it's going to be exciting for Charlo to lay down his 3 belts against Bud.

This is just the start of the promotion of this fight, so obviously they will not go at at this year. But I will predict that when the fight gets slower, Charlo might open his mouth and attack Canelo and start this whole verbal and trash talking that he is known for in his career.

It might be good though for their promotion of their fight, that at least there is some story line about it and will make people and casual boxing fans to be interested and they maybe it will sell on their PPV.

I don't think so because they already have established the date (Sept. 30, 2023) and place of the fight (T-Mobile Arena), so there is no holding back from both camps to not to make the fight happen unless there will be some emergencies or injuries in the process that will be a hurdle to re-schedule the fight. Moreover, both of them have started their face-to-face press conference, so we can say as well that they already are on their halfway point in preparing for the fight.

Tough to say for the Crawford vs Charlo fight because just like what you mentioned, there is a good chance that Jermell Charlo cannot go back anymore to his comfortable weight class where he has the undisputed belts and just like what the sanctioning bodies have stated in the past week, Charlo will not be an undisputed anymore after his fight against Canelo, regardless of the outcome of the fight. So, Crawford might not be that inclined to fight anymore because Charlo might not even go back.

Just interesting to hear though that Canelo knows that his critics is saying that he has lost some steps, and this fight will proved that he still has it, or just slipping away and might be the start of his downward path in boxing.

At least though he has recognized this and so he knows what are the stakes are, besides the belt and the money. The stakes is that this fight will be a good measuring stick for him and his team to see if he can still pull the trigger or score a knockout victory.

I wouldn't be overly concerned about Canelo in this fight, given that he's competing in his preferred weight class. Bookies seem to recognize his strong potential for victory, making him the clear favorite. Analyzing the betting odds, it's quite apparent that Canelo is highly likely to emerge as the winner.

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As both a fan and a bettor, I won't overcomplicate things. I'll simply look forward to enjoying the upcoming fight. Jermell Charlo undoubtedly poses a awesome challenge for Canelo. However, as I previously mentioned, my support is firmly behind Canelo for the win.

Personally, if Canelo Alvarez destroys Jermell Charlo, I would love Charlo to drop 2 divisions again to fight Terrence Crawford for his 3 belts. :D

Although it is really true that it is very hard to just move up 2 weight divisions and then drop in weight again. Roy Jones Jr. is a very good example moving up 2 weight divisions and becoming a heavyweight champion and then all of a sudden he was never the same when he dropped 2 divisions again.

Another example is Kell Brook who was then champion and undefeated but dared to move up 2 divisions north only to be brutally busted by GGG and breaking his eye socket. Brook after dropping weight again lost to Errol Spence. Former heavyweight champion Chris Byrd tried dropping 2 divisions thinking he would do good but ended up getting destroyed.

Manny Pacquiao also move up 2 divisions against Oscar De La Hoya but never went back to the same division again and instead dropped only 1 division to face Ricky Hatton.

Spot on!  That is why most boxer who goes up in weight division is often the underdog because of the challenges like absorbing punches, maintaining speed and agility, capability to damage the opponent.  Besides this isn't just one weight division jump but rather it is a two division upgrade so it is really a test of Charlo if his chin and body is that sturdy to resist and absorb the heavy punches of Canelo.


It is very obvious that Canelo is at an advantage in this coming fight.  Thinking that this is the convenient weight category for Canelo where he does his best, there shouldn't be any doubt that he will win this fight easily.

Well for me, from what I've seen how their fights are, the one who has the clear advantage is Canelo, it also doesn't hurt to say that if Jermell if his training is far above and he makes an effort to fight with Canelo, he has to be giving it his all , because the fight is upon us, and after 1 month he has to train intensively and that is something he can achieve if he sets his mind to it, fighting Canelo is not just anything, he is a strong opponent and has a lot to offer in fact the Canelo's technique is quite good and he can win easily if Jermell doesn't prepare well, I don't think Canelo is worried, many are pointing out that Jermell will fall so that he will fall from the division and thus can adapt more, but it is something that I don't know if it is good or not, besides, I don't rule out that they put Canelo in trouble, I've always said that in a fight anything can happen.

We are used to the style that Canelo has, besides that he is a man who likes to attract attention a lot, he is aware of his social networks, and he makes statements that if they attract attention, it is incredible, that he has time for all those things, but I think that eu that goes in his personality.

and, wow wow  wow:


Terence Crawford wants to fight Canelo vs. Jermell winner at 168 for undisputed championship


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Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/terence-crawford-wants-to-fight-canelo-vs-jermell-winner-at-168-for-undisputed-championship/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/terence-crawford-wants-to-fight-canelo-vs-jermell-winner-at-168-for-undisputed-championship/)

Well, going from 147 to 168lb is something that is quite demanding but I have faith in him, the rest wants to be 3 times the undisputed, this really gets very interesting, I know that Crawford has a very good preparation, and the truth for me is one of The boxers who fight the best in the world, and if he wants to challenge a Canelo, well, whoever does, let's see how Canelo will turn out, I think Canelo won't say no, he has been in that position many times And he knows what it's like to ask for challenges and rematches, and that they don't want to hurt them, besides, he himself had to have seen the fight that Crawford had against Spence, but if Crawford raises these dfivsions, then Spence's rematch? Perhaps if everything goes well for Crawford, Spence will do the same just to seek that revenge? This will turn a different color if Canelo accepts this challenge, will it be as impressive as Crawford vs. Spence? I think that if this happens, it will be much more epic.

^^ Might be first time that we are going to see a 3 divisional and unified champion if Crawford chooses to fight the winner of the Charlo vs Canelo. But then again, if Charlo is going to move up 2 division, Crawford will have to do 3 here from 147 lbs to 168 lbs and it's a big jump that no one has done before.

So it's a big challenge for him, although I wanted to see him going for Charlo's belt 154 lbs (if he is not stripped of it fighting Canelo here). It will be extra ordinary for him to just 3 weight classes and then beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

If Crawford can pull that one successfully, it will be on the history books and that is the kind of record that could be unbeatable even if someone will try to pull that kind of move again in the future because it's not something that can be done easily. Crawford already did a history and adding another undisputed title in another division will definitely put him on the top of every boxer that has been around in the industry.

But the question is, can he pull that one off? It will be a risky one because he is still undefeated and regarding that jump, he needed to add 9 kilograms more or 11 pounds more just to get a fight against the one and only Canelo Alvarez.

Jumping in weight class is really risky, just like I said before, Roy Jones took that route going as high as Heavyweight but it took a toll on him when the tries to go down in weight as his body reacted different from a drastic weight cut.

Of course it's going to be one for the books, but if he is willing to do that and take a risk to go up and add from a super welterweight to super middleweight, it will be one hard to break and that is one record that will not be broken for a long time.

Canelo has a 3-fight deal with PBC and I expect those fights will be against the Charlos twins and then Jose Benavidez. But if Crawford is serious in his ambitions then Canelo might have an easy way of doing that PBC deal and at the same time makes more money. Canelo after Jermell will probably take on Jermall next as he won't allow that guy to fully recover from his inactivity and then late next year he will take Bud Crawford who's nearing 37 by that time. Benavidez will never get his chance of a title shot and the corrupt WBC won't mind him.

Crawford was probably being convinced by his team to take the Canelo fight because of the huge money involved. Bud already mentioned before that there is no way he is moving up to 168 and 175 and he sees Canelo as someone too big. If he is now convinced to fight Canelo then it will be the end of his undefeated streak. At 168 he will be heavier, and slower, and at 37 his reflexes are diminishing and I doubt his power can hurt Canelo who's been campaigning and fighting the bigger guys for some years already.

What's with this boxers though jumping in weight class, I wanted to think that they wanted to challenge the best and proved who is better. But as you have said, it no more that macho thingy, it's all about the money that they can generated right now before their retire and for sure this is in the minds of Crawford, and it's a win-wint for him. If he beat Canelo then his name is in the record books for sure. But if he lose, then he can still fight Charlo at 154 lbs and become a 3 weight division unified champ and again, it's all about the money today.

Obviously, it has evolved that anyone can challenge the other champions of the division, specially in the likes of Crawford who has clean up the best of the 147 lbs. Unlike before wherein we see boxers claiming to be the best by not just cleaning up the division, but defending it multiple times, like GGG or Bernard Hopkins.

Now they jump easily, unify the belts without much defending it against their mandatories.

And what you have pointed out, it's now a big business and these boxers are business man and specially if you are a champion, you wanted a fight that will give you $10M or higher per fight.

21 pounds to be exact, not 11. But as you have said, it will be at risk, not just for his belt on the line, but for his health as well. And because it hasn't been done before, we can only speculate that is it going to be very difficult for Crawford and his frame as it will not be used to have that drastic body change and then learn to carry it during a fight.

It might affect his speed and reflex or even his power. Of course his mind might be tune in, but his body might be different and respond different to the outside stimulus of being heavier in fight night.

I like unification fights because we love to see undisputed champions in every division. But I do not like champions that are keeping their belts hostage and depriving their mandatories of their well-deserved title shots. Unless of course, when the champion is making a unification fight which makes it an exemption.

This has something to do with money. Bud is right, him vs Canelo at 168 for the undisputed belts is the biggest fight right now. That I am very confident that it would reach an easy over a million PPV buys. I am not saying Bud is a money-first type of fighter because we've seen what he did and it is all about legacy unlike Tank Davis and Tyson Fury. I don't see Bud winning over Canelo at 168 but imagine if he wins. The first-ever 3-division undisputed in the 4-belt era. Jumping up 3 divisions north to win the undisputed title along with his 135 lineal championship would be lit of an accomplishment and he will be considered one of the best ever if not the best. Only Pacman became the 5 division lineal champion and Bud has the chance to tie it with a victory over Canelo at 168 and Charlo at 154.

A lot of factors should be considered first mainly if the boxer is not yet accustomed in that specific weight class and speaking about three weight classes apart, speed and power will be the main key but without any of these, his path towards making a history will definitely fail without a doubt. He might survive it but that doesn't mean that he will also bring a win on his side because he'll just be overwhelmed by the guys who are much more comfortable at that said weight class.

One thing that might go for Charlo here is that he doesn't have to drained himself to 154 lbs. And he is probably the bigger guy here, I mean he is taller that Canelo and could probably be walking more than 168 lbs in the off-season. Just like when we see him in the Spence vs Crawford fight, for me he is walking close to 180-190 lbs that night.

So no more weight draining him in this fight and he could be really be a fit at Middle to Super Middleweight division and very well be comfortable at this weight class that's why he didn't blink and look forward for this fight with Canelo signs a 3 fight deal with PBC.

Could be, but him and his coach are really that confident that Crawford can go up at that 168 lbs and challenge either Canelo or Charlo. And with that, since this hasn't been accomplished by, so we really don't know what will it bring though.

The closest that we can see if Manny Pacquiao. But then again, Manny is a freak of nature, going up in weight class that people can't believed he actually beat a bigger man in Antonio Margarito and fuck him up so bad that he quit and his eyes shattered.

I don't see it as an advantage he can be bigger but Canelo is good at going inside against big guys unless he can do the things like what Bivol did whenever Canelo tries to gets in Bivol have a counter move and counter punches, the key here for Charlo is his defense and how he counters.
Canelo was beaten by two of defense and counter punch specialist, I'm sure his team will work it out, Canelo is offense minded so Charlo need not slug it out, id he knows how to wait and do the rght timing in landing big punches then Canelo wil have a long night ahead.

We can say that Manny Pacquiao deserved some exemption when it comes to climbing some steep ladders ;D as in your words, the man is a freak that no one could've believed that it can be pulled off. But he made it possible and we're not that sure if someone can imitate that because Manny Pacquiao is definitely the one and only.

Regarding about Crawford's plan, while Canelo and Charlo's fight is still upcoming, he should accept Spence's fight in the meantime but he should make sure that it will happen at 154 so that they will know if his strength, power and speed are still with him because if he's quite slower at 154 then he shouldn't be fighting anyone specially Canelo at 168.

We can't just fully underestimate Charlo here because just like what has been said, he got some advantage when it comes to the size and height, so maybe we can say that he might imitate what Bivol did and use that same advantage against Canelo so that he will have some struggles during the fight. He might be the king of 168 but every boxer has their own weakness and Canelo has been cracked already, that's why it's not that really hard to do mainly if Charlo is able to bring his speed and strength at 168.

It's interesting that in the undercard or co-main event, there will be Ugas vs Barrios for the WBC interim championship 147 lbs belt. Initially though it was supposedly Ugas vs Thurman, but unfortunately, Thurman again back out of the fight and so the man he beat will have the chance to get an interim belt.

And this is the first time that Ugas will fight after Spence f**k him up so bad more than a year ago to get the belt he won against Manny Pacquiao. And as per bookies, Ugas is 4:1 favorite here.

I think this fight might be good in the first couple of rounds, and then Ugas taking over with his boxing skills.
For me Barrios is just a overballoon 147 lbs, no offfense to him, but this is a very tough weight class and it's very hard to survived if you don't have the power.
So maybe in less than 10 rounds, Ugas might win with a KO or the corner of Barrios stopping the fight because of the damage that he is taking.
And it's just weird that he is getting this kind of opportunity though by WBC and fight for the interim belt.
But this 2 fighters are going to be just toyed by current champion in Crawford.

I'm not sure about Ugas after his loss to Spence; perhaps he has become more predictable. Therefore, this fight is going to be interesting. Both boxers are coming off losses, so they'll be training hard to get back on the winning track. The good thing with Ugas is that he defeated Pacman, but you never know – what if Barrios pulls off a surprise?

I personally believe that once a boxer loses in a championship fight, he is never the same boxer again.

If I'm not mistaken, Barrios came from a win mate, against a relatively unknown Jovanie Santiago. So he might be in the momentum here against Ugas. I wouldn't say that Ugas is predictable, he had success early on Spence and almost knock him down with Spence lost focus.

For Barrios, he had losses to Thurman, so I guess we can see that when he tries to step the competition, he somewhat looks very B level fighter as compare to Ugas who has fought and give better fights when he faces tough opponents.

The WBC is once again doing magic for money. Both do not deserve this WBC interim fight. Yordenis Ugas is a good fighter but after being badly beaten by Spence and more than a year of inactivity, there is no valid reason why he gets this shot right away. Mario Barrios does not even deserve a rank in the top 10. Aside from the WBC, I doubt the other 3 sanctioning bodies are ranking him in the top 10. Ugas is already old and inactive but he should be able to win by decision against the more undeserving opponent.

I wonder how much PBC is paying Sulaiman to keep the belt in their network once Terrence Crawford vacates his belts. Although it is only for the WBC interim belt, it will probably help the Canelo-Charlo PPV at least to the casuals.

This fight is getting nearer, and for sure everyone is ready and waiting for this fight.
Although Charlo is a 3:1 underdog in this fight, I still haven't put my bet yet as I will be waiting till the last minute as I wanted to see the last weigh-in.
Anyone has pull the trigger for this fight yet?
The Over/Under is 10.5 rounds, I'm still seeing that this fight might go to distance, and in the judges hand by the odds are not very attractive for the Over though.

Yes, it seems that again, Sulaiman has been paid to have this two underserving fighters to fight in the undercard and then have the interim belt in the line and it's pretty obvious though. PBC is really that have influence in boxing right now, and so it's a win-win for WBC and for the stable fighters of PBC at 147 lbs.

For this fight, I read some social media post about the fame coach Roach saying that he favors Charlo here and he will be the first one to knockout Canelo. With all respect to Roach though, we all know what he had done to Manny and other boxers, but not sure what so special that he see on Charlo to say that. Maybe he thought that Canelo is declining, but I doubt that he can simply be knockout at 168 lbs.

I do agree that it was a big surprised that this names become the an undercard and then it will be for the interim belt. Ugas has been exposed already by Spence during their fight. He is lucky that he caught Manny during their fight, I mean Manny didn't train for him, so Manny wasn't able to tailor his strategy for a Ugas fight that's why he upset the legendary boxer.

But against Spence, it was a different Ugas, he was just fighting in the pocket, although with Spence mental lapses, he almost got to score a knockdown.

Anyways, I disagree with Freddie Roach though, I do not see Charlo winning by a knockout, maybe if there is a upset here, it should be in the judges scorecard that might favor Charlo.

We never know; unexpected things can happen. Remember when we thought that Canelo would easily beat Bivol, but the opposite happened? Jermell Charlo may not be a KO artist like Canelo, but he is the bigger guy here. If he can use his size advantage to frustrate Canelo, it might make Canelo lose his focus, and in the later rounds, Jermell Charlo might be able to capitalize on that. Although I would agree that the chances of it happening are very slim, this is boxing, and both fighters are capable in the ring, so let's consider the possibility.

I also saw it on Facebook but I haven't read nor heard his full explanation on why he thought Charlo would win over Canelo at 168. But maybe it is really about the thought that Canelo is already declining. I also heard rumors that Canelo's lifestyle has changed a lot lately and his work ethic is no longer the same.

But still, it is really hard to see Charlo win by knockout. Maybe a decision is possible but I cannot imagine Canelo getting knocked out. Bivol at 175 pummeled Canelo but there was not even a single knockdown so I highly doubt a 154 guy moving up 2 divisions and is also not a known knockout artist will score a knockout win. 

Yes, it could be that Roach saw something in the John Ryder fight that he thinks that Canelo is declining already.
And I think Canelo knows this, and he even answer this question and he says that this fight will tell if he is already declining or not.


Or even GGG himself, who tag Canelo with power punches, and yet he still just shake it off as it nothing hits him. So his chin is still intact as he gets older.
And as you have said, a true 175 lbs, didn't even put a dent on Canelo but it's obvious that he might felt the power of Bivol but not enough to even shake his knees.
So I also doubt that Charlo will be the one to knock him out.
Maybe Roach is just hyping this fight.

I mean if we are talking about a knockout win against Canelo? Even the bigger and the natural LHW in Bivol wasn't able to bring Canelo down even if he had that advantage and even the volume punching that he thrown in that fight. There were moments that Canelo was is in corner and has been hit multiple times by Bivol and yet he even encourage Bivol to come in for more.

That's why I said, if there is an upset win, Canelo might lose in the cards and not be a knockout by Charlo. Charlo is the bigger guy, he is tall, but Canelo body is very different, he is very thick, specially in his shoulders and perhaps that is one factor why it's hard to knock him down. He also maintain that center of gravity.

The only thing more insane than Freddie Roach's prediction is the fact that Mario Barrios is somehow getting another opportunity at a major title. His most notable accomplishment is winning a very questionable decision for a secondary WBA title against an unknown fighter with only 7 fights. Somehow he goes on to headline two PPVs and is now featured on a Canelo undercard fighting for a belt which has no reason to exist since Crawford is the undisputed champ and is not injured. The sanctioning bodies, mainly the WBC and WBA, don't even try to hide their corruption by allowing their favorite promoters to dictate which fighters are given the opportunity to become champion regardless of how deserving they may be.

That is so true, the likes of WBC really started the whole politics and favouritism and corruption in boxing. And it's obvious that Barrios is not a top level boxer at 147 lbs and yet get the title even if Thurman has defeated him and then Ugas coming from a big lost to Spence.

It's really insane to hear what Freddie Roach said, however, he made a lot of predictions as well in the past if my memory serves me right and it didn't go as want he has said. So I would take it with a grain of salt.

Already fight week and as usual, bookies already had a lot of options for us to bet and I've noticed that bookies were enticed that this fight would go the full twelve rounds but I think the opposite as Charlo is small as this is his first fight in the 168lbs division so the risk of being KOed is high at least in my point of view and the odds for that is juicy enough for me to push that button.

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I agree, as we’ve seen throughout Canelo’s career, he’s just too good for pretty much everybody and I expect that to be the case here, especially as Charlo is moving up two weight classes for this fight. Canelo is just going to be too strong.

I think Charlo is probably only taking this fight as it’s a career pay day. You just can’t turn down the opportunity to fight Canelo with the financial security it will bring.

I think Canelo might get a late TKO stop win.

There’s a free to enter prediction competition here, if you qualify - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468064.0

Yes, it's another good bet for us here mate, so I might be thinking of throwing good money on that line as well. Charlo thinks that he can beat this version of Canelo and it seems that the media is hyping him up.

But I think Canelo will not go down easily, as we have seen when his critics is on him, he proved them wrong just like his fight with GGG. And when we think that he could be in the sunset of his career or at least losing a step, great boxers usually had a fight that will show that he still has it, just like Manny when he beat Keith Thurman.

After seeing Canelo's recent performances I would be hyped up too if I was Charlo. Canelo is coming from the loss to Bivol and lackluster decision wins against an old GGG and fringe contender John Ryder. The Canelo we have seen recently seems vulnerable. I'm just not too convinced about Charlo having what it takes to defeat a Canelo in decline. His inactivity and being in a new weight class are significant disadvantages. Despite being undisputed, Charlo has never been regarded too highly and is rarely included in any pound for pound lists. This is due to 154 being a weak division that has not allowed him to transcend in the sport.

Maybe Charlo did not get enough fame because he was to big for 154, and looked like he was beating kids?

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it does not look that Charlo is two divisions below Canelo. I have no doubts that Canelo gonna win, but Charlo gonna cause him troubles for sure. We would see different Charlo, because he did not have to cut weight to fit into 154. I would not call it a disadvantage for his to fight in new weight class. In fact he risks nothing, as he went up to Canelo territory. While Canelo could lose belts, in case of a loss, Charlo looses nothing. When there is low to lose, he might show different boxing.

It wouldn't be good for boxing if Canelo were to lose. After this fight, if he wins, people are already eagerly waiting for a big showdown between Canelo and Crawford, as the latter is planning to move up to challenge Canelo. Canelo is not getting any younger, though, so as he gets older, he becomes more vulnerable. However, a win is still a win, and I don't think a fighter like Jermell Charlo has the kind of skills to defeat Canelo.

I don't know about you guys but if you have seen the recent interviews between the two, they are somewhat tone down and I would say that there are respect between the two camps. And if ever there are like trash talking, it was very subtle and as if no one wanted to create animosity. However, we all know that once the bell rings, this two combatants are going to take each other head's off.

It's one of the weakest and that's why Charlo become the undisputed here. The fighters in this division is like a B-level (no offense to them). But it really benefited Charlo at this point and he is supposedly to fight Tsyzu for the undisputed belt but he says he got injured. But then again after June, it seems that he is completely healed and then jump 2 division to face Alvarez.

^ If you are talking about the final press conference?

Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOcrNADu7zE

Yes, there could be some respect along the way, Canelo even joking about the animal thingy that Charlo pull off. But in the face-off, you can clearly see that Charlo is really focus on this fight and doesn't want the stare down to finished as it was Canelo who broke from the stare down and face the media.

Their heights might be somewhat deceiving. We've seen Tank Davis fight taller fighters who were coming up to his weight but it was still a mismatch because of the power difference and being better acclimated to the weight. Canelo is used to fighting bigger and stronger fighters like Kovalev, Callum Smith, and Caleb Plant. Charlo might be able to make weight comfortably but that does not mean he will be able to sustain the punches from Canelo who is by far the heaviest hitter he has faced.

And to add to that, this is his first time to go to 168 lbs, so his power hasn't been tested, although we can see that he has it at 154 lbs. But this is new weight class for him. His body could adjust to the weight, no doubt about that, but can he bring his power to super middle weight?

That could only be answer inside the ring, if he tasted Canelo's power and how he will respond. But as far as Canelo goes, as you have said, he has face a lot of good boxers throughout his career, to be included there is GGG. But no one has the blue print yet to crack that solid chin of Canelo.

For Charlo to beat Canelo, he has to be quicker. It's true that Canelo has a solid chin, which makes it very dangerous to go toe to toe with him. Even the bigger Bivol couldn't knock him out despite his size advantage and fighting in his natural weight. Mayweather understood that as well; he used his quickness to score points throughout the 12 rounds, which is why he dominated Canelo.

We must remember that Charlo is adding mass on his body so he can't be quicker than he used to be at 154lbs division so most likely he need to go toe to toe with Canelo once in a while to test how strong Canelo's punch and if he could hurt him but most likely he won't hurt Canelo and he will just fight to survive but i'm hoping that in the later rounds, Canelo would catch Charlo's chin and knock him out cold.

Mayweather's defensive strategy is one of a kind that's why Canelo was having a hard time catching the former and besides he was still so young that time.

Floyd said that he fight Canelo when he was 36 years old and Canelo 23 years old. So Canelo is still very young and if I'm not mistaken, it's the first time that Canelo fought in the US as he usually just fight in Mexico that time.

And I do agree that adding mass on Charlo could be two fold, well he might absorb the power of Canelo, or he could slow him down because he is not used to this kind of body when fighting. So in the early rounds, maybe he could stay, but as soon as we hit the middle rounds, we might see Charlo slowing down a bit and huffing because of that extra weight in him.

Canelo is still a rookie that time, and Floyd about on his peak that's why the defensive genius just school Canelo that time. And that's why Floyd fight though, uses his skills to dominate so that is nothing unusual about that fight except that Canelo get a lot of experienced. And he didn't lost for a long time after that fight until Bivol beat him at LHW.

For Charlo to beat Canelo, he needs to be consistent for full 12 rounds and he shouldn't let his guard down as Canelo is good at spotting your weak point. Charlo could land some good blows on Canelo, but the again, the iron chin of Canelo is hard to crack as no one had done it before. Just look at Canelo's jaw line though and his neck.

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The weigh-in is done and the fighters are ready. Both Canelo and Jermell weighed 167.4 pounds. Canelo seems to be more smiling since his arrival in Las Vegas for this weekend event. He is in good spirits which is very important. Jermell is also pumped ready and hungry to create his own legacy.

I expect Canelo the heavier fighter come fight night. I expect Charlo to fight smart, use his jab, and stay away from Canelo. The biggest question however is the quickness of Jermell since he is moving up 2 weight divisions and he is also more than a year inactive.

The odds favored a decision since it is expected that Jermell will stay away from close encounters and will try to use his range as much as possible. But if he is feeling heavy on his feet then Canelo should be able to corner him, slow him down with his body punches, and stop him in the late rounds.

Another title fight tomorrow via DAZN, Jai Opetaia's first defense of his IBF cruiserweight belt against Jordan Thompson. Both are heavy handed so this fight might have more action than the Canelo-Charlo duel.

Charlo already looks huge in the image, so I doubt that he will have to add some weight fight night. But as you have said, Canelo might rehydrate here, come maybe around 172-175 lbs'ish for this fight and I think this is what he usually weight during fight night.

And I do agree that since there are no trash talking in the pre-fight, it's good to see Canelo just relax and laughing. And I just thought about Manny's demeanor during that fight as well. But in the ring we can see totally a different person as Manny destroys his opponent. So let's see how Canelo proved his critics wrong by beating Charlo.

He should be, as he is the taller and so there's room for him to make more weight on that kind of frame. But we don't know if can can translate to more power on him or not.


We will see, this fight is critical to Canelo as a lost means that he really lost some of his power or maybe the competition in him is no longer there. Just like other great boxers before him who suddenly lost the fire inside of them and can't pull the trigger anymore.

I reckon in the ring after eating and rehydration, Canelo will have more than enough weight to fight in the light heavyweight division hehehe. Also, it appears that much of the fans and the bettors agree that this fight will end on a decision. We cannot be certain on this. Canelo might end this fight with a knockout in the 7th round because this is not vs. John Ryder where Canelo was bored. This is vs. Charlo! Canelo wants to show everyone that he is not the fighter his fans have witnessed vs. Ryder!

The fight will be underway now if you want a  live feed check this link

https://www.facebook.com/100095064833049/videos/331387449268644

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Who might be Canelo's next opponent? There is nothing for him in super middleweight anymore except more money from other super middleweight fights or maybe if he accepts Bivol's challenge in Canelo's weight division.

In any case, if everyone is listening to Canelo's interview in the ring, it appears he will not retire soon hehehe. Next fight I wish will be vs. Benavidez!

This is too easy for Canelo, all Charlo did was run and hug and in the interview, he had a hard time explaining what happened to him, great boxing for Canelo he just shows that he still has it and yeah it seems Benavidez is the only fighter that can give him a decent fight in his division or he can do a rematch against Bivol there is really nothing in the super middleweight that can match Canelo's superiority.

He is the man to beat and he will continue to be on the Ring magazine pound for pound as long as no one beats him decisively like what Bivol did, we'll wait for news on his next fight and the boxing needs a fighter that can give Canelo a good match up in the ring.

Charlo is not fighting to win he is just here for the money so he just runs away and wants to survive the fight, this is a big disappointment, Charlo is all talks but cannot bring anything into the ring and now he wants to challenge Terence Crawford, Canelo should stop fighting fighters who just want to make money and go for fighters who deserves to challenge him and Benavidez could be the right guy for this.

There's no other fight but a Benavidez or a Bivol rematch, this a more challenging fight than another Charlo-like fight.

Hopefully, it will be Benavidez next for Canelo. Benavidez has been calling Canelo out and hopefully this fight can be done. And it's really hard to see Canelo stopping at this point, when we thought that he could be done based on his last performance, he come up big against Charlo and dominated the fight from round 1.

I also gave Charlo just one round in this contest, he seems to be very tentative and that body shot, he might have felt it already that's why the game plan wasn't executed even though he is the bigger guy here.

Or maybe we can see Canelo vs Crawford?

Canelo is kind of stuck and cannot move forward, it is obvious the plan was to beat Bivol and move to the light heavyweight division, but after he was dominated by Bivol those plans had to be scratched at least for the short term, so he does not have much options left, if he still does not feel ready for Bivol then the only option that remains is Benavidez, however I am sure this is not really what he wants and if it was up to him he would try to challenge Bivol again so he can finally move up a division.

Benavidez is the only fighter worth mentioning. A rematch with Bivol would be a one sided snoozefest. Crawford is too small and would lose similarly to Charlo. Benavidez never lost his belt in the ring and is the current mandatory. Canelo said he didn’t care who was next so there is no excuse for Haymon not to make the fight everybody wants to see.

It's worth mentioning these three, actually. Without a doubt, Canelo beat Charlo easily. Whoever comes first among the three names mentioned, it's always okay. But I'm sure promoters will try to prioritize which fighter to pair with Canelo to generate more money. With that said, I think Crawford is the top priority. That way, if Crawford really struggles in carrying his power, Canelo's camp would ensure they'll have an easy win but with a bigger reward.

Next in line is probably Benavidez. Currently, he is the boxer that I think would really match Canelo. I'm not sure if Canelo will win, but if he does, then the finale would be to avenge his loss to Bivol.

Yeah, the fight against John Ryder was better, way better because Ryder was fighting in Canelo's hometown Mexico and yet he showed some resistance against Canelo and even scored back in the final rounds.
But in this fight against Charlo, he ain't even punching back in high amounts like he ain't the challenger, it is a disappointing waste of time and money for those who paid PPV.
https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-vs-jermell-charlo-fight-results-highlights-mexican-star-retains-undisputed-title-by-decision/live/
It's obvious when a boxer badly wants the title from the champion, but in this fight, I didn't see that.
But here is what Charlo said.
He says he never makes excuses and yet he talked about going up 12 pounds. Well, in my dictionary that's an excuse. ;D
I agree with you guys, Bivol might be the best match the organization could offer to the fans and make this more entertaining.
I think I expected too much for Charlo and his words got into me, I didn't know he would be that bad and yes, it almost looks like he is just aiming for the money. Well, he will receive it but I what about the reputation? This theories and gossips will come out and he will definitely see it.

Your prediction was almost correct mate, Charlo went down in round 7, but wasn't knockout. But yes, as I expected, Canelo rehydrated very well and looks the heavier of the two.

Charlo doesn't look to fight though, he has wanted to have his biggest paycheck. Coming from a long lay-off and hand injuries, and then he think he can beat Canelo at his comfortable weight class and himself coming from 154 lbs to 168 lbs? Credits to Canelo, after a lackluster performance against John Ryder, he comes back and demolished the supposedly Charlo that will knock him out.

Maybe we will see a good fight that time. However, I think that fight is not going to happen this year. We are already in the last quarter of the year, and Canelo has already had 2 fights. I think he will rest in the remaining months and enjoy the money he earned this year. Benavidez also has a great record, but I believe he is not on Canelo's level. He's probably just on the same level as Charlo, the boxer that Canelo beat today. Canelo's biggest challenge is Bivol; therefore, the rematch should happen.

Moving two divisions upward is a trend and Terrence Crawford has been vocal in the last few months that he is open or interested in fighting Canelo and the latter has also shown interest to Crawford's proposal so i will not be surprised if one day, Canelo vs Crawford will be announce because a fight with Bivol or Benavidez is something that i don't see to happen next year.

But not sure if Crawford will have to continue with that goal, jumping 3 weight class and fight Canelo. Perhaps it is was a different Canelo here, but Alvarez is still sharp and that body shot that he throws in an angle, it really hurt I guess that's why Charlo is very tentative in this fight and can't even throw a decent combination to even hurt Canelo. And so with that, Canelo just go and steam roll Charlo not worried about the power because he knows that he can take it. And as what we could have seen, maybe after round 1, he just wanted to survived and be on the pay check only.

Charlo though said that he is around 173 lbs and perhaps Canelo as well around the light weight limit during the fight. It ended in a decision on the side of Canelo and as what we have been speculating, maybe the added weight on Charlo was a bad idea + ring rust.

Charlo in the post fight he said that he wanted to fight Crawford next at 154 lbs. But based on his performance or at least as per Crawford,


https://twitter.com/terencecrawford/status/1708353103702159586

For Canelo saying that he should fight Benavidez next, here is what he says,


https://twitter.com/dantheboxingman/status/1708345755231306029

Very easy fight for Canelo. Charlo has lost already in first round, and all other rounds all he was thinking about was money cheque and how soon it would be over. The whole fight looked like both of them did not want to fight, but were only fulfiling contract obligatories. I bet nobody of them gonna remember that fight in future.

If this Benavidez fight did not happen one of them is alluding to it, Benavidez really wants to have a piece of Canelo he is the missing fight to establish himself and Canelo needs to fight Benavidez so there will be no more names in the lower division that can keep up with him.

I also don't recommend a Bivol rematch, the guy is too good for Canelo being a natural light heavyweight, as long as Bivol and Beterbiev are the champions Canelo will never capture the light heavyweight, his conquest stops in the super middleweight.

In this fight, Jermell Charlo was always defending himself, he was always taking a step back in order to organize his defense, and any movement that Canelo made he took a huge step back. His strategy, I don't know if this could be considered a good strategy, consisted of standing back, making some movements with his arms, then retreating, when the canelo attacked him, then he would fight back, but always taking steps backwards. He tried a few times to make quick movements with his feet and some punches, but within a few minutes that Canelo counterattacked, he immediately retreated again, for most of the fight, or even I dare say that the entire fight, he was defending himself, taking steps back to ago, who seemed to be feeling some fear, or was being very cautious

or perhaps his constant retreat could be some strategy to make the caneloo get tired early while he saved his strength so that when the canelo got tired he would start attacking, the problem was that with that he suffered blows and as a consequence he soon threw himself towards the body of the canelo, constantly held the canelo. it looked more like him and that he was tired instead of Canelo being the first to get tired since Canelo was the guy attacking, it looked like Jermell was scared or sparing himself. In any case, this fight was very dominated by Canelo, congratulations to Canelo for the easy victory he had

Looks like it. Charlo would have been giving all he got to hurt Canelo in the last round but the fact it lasted til it last, gives the impression that they are there just as they signed.
Even so, the fight is fun to watch. There was a quick KO in the 7th round I guess that made people stand up in excitement and then slowly died.

I couldn't say an easy fight for Canelo but sure Charlo is a big man for his weight. Heard one of the heavyweights say your body helps you absorb punches when you gain weight.

In terms of skill Benavidez isn't a whole lot better than Charlo but he has other advantages. He is a natural super middleweight, he is younger, he is 6'2" (1.88 m), and is a bigger puncher than Canelo. Benavidez could easily be fighting at light heavyweight. He is not somebody that Canelo can just manhandle and impose his will through brute force. Canelo will have to outbox Benavidez but he's not nearly as fast and gets hit a lot more than when he was at his peak. It's a fight that can go either way but I favor Benavidez slightly.

After watching the match I wonder what Jermell Charlo was thinking taking up a fight with Canelo Alvarez. It was a fight that from the beginning you could see Charlo felt Canelo was obviously above him and let's not forget that he had to climb up in weight for this one.

From start to finish Canelo owned the contest he was More on the offense and Charlo was on the defense backing up and it cost him real big. But I would not say my respect goes out to him for taking the fight because money was involved but I would say he actually had the potentials to cause an upset but he didn't obviously believe in himself .

It was a huge weight climb of 12 pounds.  Even Charlo stated that he felt the impact of huge weight difference.
It is really a walk in the park for Canelo but it is kinda disappointing that despite of huge weight adjustment of Charlo, Canelo failed to win through knock out.


I watched the highlights not the entire fight, yeah Charlo did earn my respect because despite of huge weight adjustment, he is able to face Canelo face to face and able to exchange punches in several occassions.

Agreed, it can be argued that Charlo only wanted the money and run away, however, we should not be inconsiderate on Canelo's performance. Canelo was always going near Charlo and he was also cornering him. This might have made Charlo very uncomfortable and caused him not to perform very good vs. the Mexican.

Also, I speculate that he does not like Benavidez as his next opponent. It might be still Bivol but he cannot mention this in the ring. A tactic for Canelo's team might be to challenge Beterbiev first and win the WBC, IBF and WBO championships to force Bivol to come to him.

Crawford criticized the performance of Jermell Charlo in that fight. He's trying to throw himself to the situation so that people will start talking about his challenge to Canelo. I wonder, what would happen to Crawford if he were to face Canelo in a heavier weight class where he isn't as comfortable? Would he face the same fate as Charlo?

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1584822/ashamed-terence-crawford-jermell-charlo-canelo-alvarez/

As crawford said

I wonder if there was really a strategy to win. It seems like Charlo trained hard in order to survive the fight and he was indeed very successful. Previous Canelo opponents if not getting stopped have lots of bruises, even Bivol's arm was severely bruised. Charlo was quick to stay away and then hug Canelo to avoid the combinations. It was a shameful performance. Even in the late rounds where it is obvious that he needs to score a knockout or multiple knockdowns to get a win, he didn't really try.

Jermell's performance affects the market of his next fight. No wonder Crawford said he is no longer pursuing a fight with him.

I appreciate your comment! Favouring Benavidez might not be the most common opinion among posters. If that fight were to happen, I believe Canelo would still be a heavy favourite. It's understandable that bookies set odds like that because he is very popular now. As a result, the betting odds are often overvalued, making it favourable for bettors like you who believe in his opponent's potential to win.

It's hard to speculate, Crawford on all his fights he was never hurt never knocked down, or even in trouble he always dominated all his fights, he has proven that he is the best welterweight champion, Canelo also comes in the welterweight and he did carry his power in that division if Canelo can why not Crawford.

Crawford is a special guy he has already proven himself so I don't want to judge Crawford to be a weaker fighter if he faced Canelo if they ever face in the ring, but right now he will have to take care of Spence or challenge Charlo, a lot of exciting fights coming on these two fighters, Canelo and Crawford.