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Hi guys..
I had this argument with a friend of mine yesterday while we were discussing over a bottle of beer each  :P.

Is It Possible To Abuse gambling?
Answer is Yes ..

What is Gambling Abuse?
Gambling abuse is simply defined as gambling with a motive that is different from the real purpose why gambling is in existence.

Lets Consider This Example
Tramadol is a  drug used to relieve patients from extreme pain, or what would have caused extreme pain, for example, when a patient is to undergo a CS, Tramadol is one of the drugs that is administered to such patient to help numb their nervous system from feeling the pain of the cut, this drugs also give the patient energy, at the same time intoxicates, this helps the patient to have energy, as well sleep so that the operation can be comfortably carried out on them.

Today, many of our men and youths now take this drug, not for the purpose it was made, but for the fact that it gives energy and intoxicates at the same time, giving a feel-good kind of feeling, and lets also note that this drug is highly addictive, tramadol today is banned in a country like Nigeria due to the level of abuse on it, that is people taking the drug not for what it was created for, but for their own personal pleasure, police now arrest and prosecute owners of medicine shops who are caught selling tramadol to unauthorized patients.

How Does This Abuse Relate to Gambling?
We all know that gambling is originally meant to act as a means of entertainment, that is, its one of the ways people entertain themselves and in so doing, they stand a chance at winning money..
Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

Today, we have many players going the extreme just for a win, and most times if they fail, many resort to committing suicide as a way to lift of burden of debt they brought upon themselves due to irresponsible gambling which i can now also refer to as Gambling abuse .

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

Lets have a discussion.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or pharmacist, I know nothing about drugs, all I said concerning Tramadol is solely based on my personal use and experience with the drug, in medical terms, I could be wrong with the description of the drug.

there is a misunderstanding that some people have about gambling, people gamble for various reasons, i don't think that those who gamble for money are a mistake ^{(gambling abuse)}, that is their reason for gambling because without a monetary prize, they will not be interested in gambling, from several discussions, the reasons people do gamble are 3; it is for money, for entertainment and to make friends cmiiw then it is important for you to find your reasons for gambling and also be a responsible gambler so you don't turn into someone who is addicted to gambling because of the 3 reasons above.

I don't agree much with that statement.That is because we are in different times nowadays then the early days that date 4000 years before Christ where we know that gambling approximately started.Maybe at that time not much else was for entertaining purposes but right now there are a lot of alternatives to entertainment rather to gamble to entertain ourselves.This brings us to the next point which is all the gamblers nowadays gamble with the hope to win some money because they know it is possible but this is not considered gambling abuse,just normal gamblers behavior.

Gambling abuse is not a crime, so nothing like prosecution.

If alcohol is allowed in your country, if you abuse it, nothing like prosecution unless that make you do something wrong like you rape someone, you drive and you are caught to be drunk. If you drink in your home and intoxicate yourself and do nothing wrong, you are abusing alcohol if you do it often but no prosecution.

Some drugs are illegal, like cocaine. Even if someone do not abuse it and he was caught, he will be jailed.

Abuse and addiction are just the same. I only know that people should not be addicted to gambling, they should gamble responsibly and they should only use small amount of money which they can afford to lose to gamble.

If they got addicted and because of that, they steal or become something else, the punishment of what they become can lead them to be jailed.

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I am gambling responsibly. Do not be addicted.

I think that no matter how hard we try, the ads against gambling addiction, the research on the dangers of gambling addictions, the jingles and warning about gambling addiction, the numbers of those abusing gambling and getting addicted will not decrease. What we need is to now create more resources, institutions and train lay personnel to effectively handle the rising cases of gambling addiction.

Yes, I do.

Only casinos can catch them and give them temp ban. If they notice that when they return the gambling addiction has not reduced then they give them life ban.

This is a punitive action rather than a reformative action. It will be counter productive. These people need to be helped not punished.

Yes, in my own opinion.

Gamble abuse leads to stress then what's next to it is worst.
I don't know how other gamblers are making gambling as their source of income. I have tried so many times to try and defeat the house but there's literally no window to win even if you do it for long. Yes, I did see some winners but it doesn't last long. After that, they will gamble the money they won and the house will take it back, without a little shed of doubt.
So, it's better to just leave gambling for entertainment purposes only. That way it won't lead to scenarios that are not easy to return from.

Well said friend,  you nailed it on the abuse of tramadol but note that there is no big difference between tramadol, and beer that you were on while having this discussion with your friend and the only difference is the fact that beer is seen as legal in some part of Nigeria but also illegal in other parts of the country where the Sharia law is in force just like in the northern part of the country Nigeria,  and tramadol is not banned as you put out but have been restricted to be sold only on doctor's prescriptions, and the government also put in measures that make the price of the drug to be so expensive to the extent that those addicted to it can afford it any longer unlike what it was in the past when the price of the drug was so low that it nearly destroyed the life of the youths were many were engaged on the unauthorized excessive intakes of the drug.

Now back to gambling abuse,  I think instead us concentrating on the excessive gambling that leads the gambler into addiction,  let us also consider other facts that have also made up the bigger part of gambling abuse which is the real abuse on gambling systems e.g abuse on bonuses system and how some players manipulate the outcome of the game in some cases,  I know this is rear cases that are not often discussed here,  but then also I believe that it is worthy to note them too,  since the impact on some casino has lead to closer of such casinos example is what happened to Betlucy some time ago where there welcome bonus systems were abused at lunch where there did a no wagering welcome bonus but that the end players abused the system by creating multiple accounts just to cashout the bonuses.

So I think this is the real bigger abuse?

But then also when you talk about gamblers that take gambling as a source of income,  leading them to gamble excessively that means that there already abusing the essence of gambling which is gambling for entertainment,  but then also we must also take note of the fact that gambling winning can really be enticing most especially when you win constantly for some time which also is almost impossible sometimes but then also possibility os there that a gambler can win a big amount on a bet which also can help sort out financial needs but not to be taken as a source of income.

I do agree that perhaps for others it's pure entertainment, specially if the they can afford the money that they will lose in the game. However, gambling itself is already bad in the beginning, as you can go and become an addict.

And admit it or not, some gamblers, really wanted to win big and that's why they are willing to take that risk when the money in their hand. Specially those who are really in need of money, most of them are going to casino to hit that one big jackpot that will chance their lives.

Yes, one could agree that gambling outside what's it's meant to be for is an abuse.

But we should also be open to the idea that some create innovations today were as a result of people using things the way they were not meant to be used. But since using gambling wrongly could pose a great danger to man's health then I'll rest my case, if it was something that do result in productive outcome then I'd have argued more but for now I'm going to let you have it.


The reason why most drug abusers are being persecuted is because there are laws that prohibit such actions but for gambling there are no law enforced on it.

Actually, if you quote from Britannica, initially gambling was created for divination, where someone used this activity to be able to find out the knowledge of the future and the intentions of the gods. But in modern times, gambling is rarely used for that, some people use it to make money, entertainment and socializing. Is it wrong if gambling is abused like that? there's nothing wrong with that, because everyone has their own purpose for gambling, some use it for predictions, making money, entertainment, etc., what distinguishes it is only for its purpose.

as long as the abuser of gambling in this case is an addicted gambler, not harming others. I don't think criminal action can be done. even if it caused him to hurt himself. unless it relates to other acts such as robbery or theft. of course, this can be criminalized.

there will be many possible cases that can be linked to gambling addiction. addiction cannot be punished, but criminal acts committed by addicts can be punished. Drug abuse cases can be rehabilitated. but gambling abuse I'm not sure it can.

I'm sorry, but what drives people to gamble?
Could you please explain the major reason why gambling exists?

I'm curious because I never thought there was a true reason for it to exist. I used to assume it was primarily for entertainment and a way for people to make money because I think 90% of people gamble to make money.


I now understand your view on the purpose of gambling after reading your post. Gambling was created as a form of entertainment so that people may enjoy themselves and either win or lose money while betting on their favourite games. Why would someone borrow money to bet, and why would anyone be so reliant on something with a 50/50 chance of success, when gambling is intended to be fun? It's their problem, they should be left alone to find a way to get out of any trouble they find themselves in.


I agree, but I don't believe that much can be done to stop those who engage in gambling abuse because it's hard to tell who does and because they are already in so much trouble, I believe they should be let to suffer the consequences.

I think there are gamblers who really look for gambling to make money or as a income generated, to bring food in the table. But we all know that it's not going to work in the long run. Sure there are days that you will be lucky and win, but what if you losses in the next couple of days?


It's just really hard to think that someone will commit suicide or take their lives because they lost in gambling.


I guess it's a individual thing. We don't know what is the mindset of a certain person when he gambles. Maybe he want's to be entertain or to earn money. So I disagree about them being arrested and prosecuted like a criminals. Government should step up, and they want to stop gambling totally. But the problem is that government rely on the money being generated by casinos.

It will always be a debate, that there are those who think gambling is just for fun but there are also those who think of gambling as a way to earn income.
Actually the most important thing is how we fund these activities, if you want to get pleasure or earn income you should keep a limited budget, because there are other things that must also be fulfilled and are more important.
If someone gambles not because he wants to get pleasure but because he wants to get income or something other than pleasure I don't think of it as abuse, because the player is using his own money and if he uses the money he borrows it is still his responsibility, if he fails to pay then the penalty is not about gambling but debts or debts, or the punishment he will receive when gambling and causing commotion or committing a crime such as stealing is not because of his gambling.

Gambling is entertainment that's the way to look at gambling platforms if you see gambling platforms as a way to make money then its abuse, you will deposit more than you can, extend your playing time and even if you are not in a gambling platform all you're thinking is how to beat the house.
Responsible gaming is when you log off everything about gambling should be forgotten, but if you let it hang on then gambling is taking over your mind and your action so it becomes abuse, when you are past your limitation that's where abuse starts.

I wouldn't really call it an abuse of gambling. They just use it as an excuse (even if they don't see it as such), so that they can escape most of their problems (or solve them if they're really lucky). It can technically be called abuse, but a lot of things can be used all the same really.
I mean, they're dead, I don't think there's much we can do about it. And even if we do try to preempt by taking action, everything is only based on "assumptions". And technically the police force or casino staff can't make a move based on such a thing. It's basically the same thing with drug abusers, in most cases, their states are already far too in before people can even notice and stop it.

The key idea to do here is to prevent said situation from happening in the first place, and it doesn't stem from gambling, no. It usually stems from the influences in the environment, from your parents, friends, advertisements, the internet, etc., and that would be a too big of a thing to influence, so most people really just ignore it, not that they don't care though, they can't just do anything with a single persons influence.

If we go by your analogy, i could liken your statement to someone who planted a tree, and at some point, that tree becomes a problem to him and the society, and the society was supposed to put that tree to death so it doesn't cause problems for them anymore, and the society do instead is to cut of the branches of that tree, and assume it will die that way, and after some months, they discover the problem is still there, then check the tree and discovered that the tree is not dead, but rather have grown new branches, then instead of uprooting the tree from its root to put a permanent stop to the problem, they still went on to cut the branches again instead.

To put an end to problems, we tackle them from their root cause, when someone gambles until he or she turns into a criminal, while sending that person to jail, teach the ones that are onlooking how to gamble responsibly, else, in a few years, you will have to send many young lads to jail believing they just have a habit stealing, meanwhile the root cause of their stealing is due to gambling abuse, irresponsible gambling, due to lack of gambling education.

Gamblers are most likely entertained when they are winning their bet rather than playing the game itself and also there are some gamblers there that see their winning and will gonna give them some boost to show off. This will also trigger some excitement which will make them go every night or every time they got money to play the games. Most of the people who became addicted thought it was just for mere entertainment and they know to themselves they were playing with the only money they have and when they woke up from reality, it was all over they lose everything they have.

I don't know how someone can gamble outside the act of gambling or what gambling is not meant for. If you bet your money or have staked it in gambling then you are gambling. Unlike the tramadol scenario you made which is quite understable. However, but if patients were to be relieved by tramadol on their pain and some people are also using it as hard drugs to get intoxicated, it means the drug has more than one purpose unlike gambling whose purpose could be more than one, entertainment and profit.


If you gamble in a country where gambling is illegal then you have committed a crime and could be arrested likewise drugs, otherwise no arrest will be made.


Tramadol I think have different effect on different people. It could be intoxicating some people and giving them energy but for others it could bring them down, weak and make them have lesser strength.

Fivestar4everMVP well the tree is not the responsibility of the community to cut it off since it hacks become  a bigger problem for the society, because the tree was not a community tree but planted by an individual in the community, and since this individual have failed to trime the tree to the extent of it becoming a problem to the society he has to face some charges, but if you are in a society where laws are ineffective, you have to beer with such problems for some time.

But on the other end where you'rementioned how to tackle problems I 100% agree with you that taking care of a problem is like ending the menace the tree was causing since the tree has become a public problem it was supposed to be caught by the root since caught off some branches is like paving the way for the tree to spread wider it branches and also making it to become a bigger problem.

So also we can relate this to gambling abuse which is the main discussion,  since gambling exhibited higher risk in everything, one needs to put a lot of things in check, so as not to become overly carried away to the point that you either abuse the casinos or yourself by getting addicted or lose a lot of money.

Maybe gambling beyond what is meant by gambling is abuse because people cannot use gambling as entertainment. Those who want to use gambling as a place to make money are already abusing the purpose of gambling itself. But they don't need to be caught and tried because it depends on their purpose for gambling. And if they lose a lot in gambling, it is their own fault because no one told them to continue gambling and spend a lot of money.

Gambling was designed for two major reasons which are entertainment and profit making. To me, gambling to gain some financial benefit is not gambling abuse but relying on it as a major source of income is where the problem is. We indeed gamble because of fun but we all also want to win and make some good money. Gambling has made some people very rich.

Furthermore, gambling abuse is the inability to control your gambling activities which leads to financial, health, or even family problems. When a man is using almost all his earnings to gamble and leaving his family to suffer from want, he is abusing gambling. When you fail to engage in productive ventures and spend all your time analyzing and forecasting games, you are a gamble abuser. If your gambling activity is affecting your health because you are gambling more than your capacity, you are abusing gambling. When you get to the extent of selling personal properties or borrowing to gamble, you need help.

Gambling addiction or abuse is not a crime in my country. If you like you can gamble with your life, you are not braking any law. Maybe it is illegal in some other country and the law will contain sanctions for that. To me, gambling abusers should have their finance controlled by their spouse or a financial administrator until they show signs of self-control.

To me I think is pure entertainment for me and aside from that one I caution myself very well from being an addict, once it gets to the level of addiction you start spending serious money but once it is for fun it pays, how hilarious bro have you placed a bet and see the potential win you will be triggered to play continuous, looking at the fact that money is involved, and like you said once you really in need of money, you start imaging different means of getting money and you start spending money you don't have in your head, and the bad condition of the economy has made people hunting for money by all means.

I don't think this is true, the sole purpose of gambling is not entertainment. First of all casinos that offer us the opportunity to gamble are private businesses, they need to turn a profit to keep operating, otherwise they go bankrupt. The main purpose of the casino is to make a profit, they need more people to lose at their games than there are winners. An entertainment companies focus is to make the customers happy, a casino is trying to take our money. For the customers it's something different, they want to have a good time and the chance to become rich. It's true that most people feel excitement when playing with money and also feel a rush of happiness when winning, I don't think the majority of gamblers look at it for income. Among my friends nobody would quit their regular job and start gambling as their new profession. At least for me gambling can't be a reliable source of income, I don't have the skills to make enough profit each month to pay all my bills.

I am very familiar with these types of drugs. from what you said, that's absolutely true. the phenomenon of abuse of certain types of drugs is not something foreign to us. I'm pretty sure, in almost every country there is always something called abuse as you say. but actually, there are many types of abuse that occur with various cases, not just the tramadol phenomenon.
IMO, to be honest, the phenomena that occur in your country cannot be separated from a weak government system. we can discuss it, even from a political and corruption perspective. it's just that our discussion is gambling, so we return to the theme of gambling.

Speaking of gambling, we agree that most of the history of gambling on this earth is intended as a means of entertainment for its people. starting from traditional gambling, until it's time to develop to be as sophisticated as it is today. it's just that, what you say we can't really generalize. why, because every person/gambler has different intentions from one another. to me, there is no such thing as the Abuse of gambling. this is definitely different from the comparison you said in this thread. remember gambling is not a type of drug, even those that are prohibited from circulating freely.

Gambling is designed as a means of entertainment, but each user is free to express himself in gambling itself. either those whose goal is just for fun, or those who are serious about making a major income from gambling. the point is, one must know what he is doing from his gambling. whatever the reason, there is no problem with it. The important thing is, one realizes that gambling also carries risks. the most common risk, experiencing defeat.  the risk of not having a good impact, a person becomes a gambling addict. psychologically, humans have their own understanding, will, and how they think. So, the point is there is no such thing as Abuse of gambling IMO. unless, a gambler commits fraud.

The purpose of gambling like we are trying to discuss is actually subjective as the responses have suggested with individuals different views. So likewise gambling "abuse", like is there any standard for gambling abuse when the law did not make it so. I think abuse is what you feel having negative effect on you or other person that at the extreme might cause loss of life. Drug abuse might have direct cause to death because drug is a substance going inside your body and might harm your health but a gambler may become an addict and it effect needs an extraneous support or contribution if death will ever occur.

I can still understand if some gambler think gambling is one of side hustle, but if the gambler think gambling is a major source of income, this is really impossible. Major source of income need to be stable and pays well, while earning through gambling is never been stable and pays well is depend on your luck. Maybe yesterday you've hit 1,000x multiply, but you might have gamble for 30 days in a row and never hit 1,000x.

Anything that exceeds is considered abuse and abuse in gambling can be considered dangerous to finances and mental health, they should not be arrested they are not harming anyone but themselves unless they are stealing to gamble, I prefer to call them victims because if they are in the right mind they will not do something that will harm themselves and their love ones but they lose their capability to think correctly because of their addiction to gambling.

Those who fall into gambling abuse should be rehabilitated, it's not a crime to be addicted to gambling, and their relatives and the authorities should help them to get cured and restore their right mental health

There is nothing that needs to be done, because in the first place the individual chooses how to deal with gambling on his own, just like someone who takes these drugs and abuses them. Gambling and drug addicts are none other than clear examples where self-control does not start from other people but oneself.

back to government regulations that prohibit gambling but that doesn't mean those regulations apply to actually prevent it. For example, we know that drug abusers are arrested and put on trial, but did you know that it's not the roots who are being arrested, but just a group of criminals who have the status of addiction? his drug dealers continue to roam instead of standing behind the institution to be part of the game. Likewise with the cases of gamblers who were arrested, only those who were addicted, while the casino dealers continued to operate.

Tramadol is an oppiate. I will suggest to read some about this class of medicine...

If a gambler is able to earn, "making a living" from this activity... let's go ahead! well done! he has found a job and no one should judge and I can't see any abuse....

How many people are really able to reach such level? How many people are able to made this job for several years? ::)

I have to ask if he is harming others by using gambling as an abuse? If not, then he himself will be responsible.
It is not our authority but the police who will determine whether gambling is prohibited or not, if it is prohibited then it is likely that the police will arrest him.
I feel that if it harms others, in the sense of robbery, deprivation etc. then it should be prosecuted, but there are also gamblers as fun but we do not determine which attitude is correct.

About the punishment, each casino has their own ways to determine whether a gambler is abusing them or not. And for those that have been abusing gambling, I think it is the other way.

They're being abused because they don't know that they already have been. It's not a matter though but in terms of taking dosages and drugs, it's not just all about gambling but also their mental health.

Honestly, I've just heard of this drug for the first time.

How does this gambling abuse relate to drug abuse? I fail to see the connection somehow. I don't know any gamblers who turned to drugs because they failed in gambling.
Whether and how they should be prosecuted depends on the harm done by them. If they cheated in a game resulted in small loss for a casino, they should be treated like system testers or hackers. They did not cost the casino a lot of money and in return showed a loophole in the system.

It is risky to consider gambling as the main income, because it will not provide the desired income. There will be some defeats that we don't want at gambling. Remember that gambling only relies on luck, unless you bet on sports gambling which can do some player analysis. But in general gambling is influenced by luck. Make gambling as entertainment, so it won't be burdensome, if used as the main income then there will be many losses that can be obtained.

If you interpret gambling abuse, then there are many types of abuse that are rife and it all depends on each of us' point of view.
Some countries also have strict prohibitions against gambling activities and are regulated by the laws of that country.
Like the country where I live also prohibits the practice of gambling and anyone who is caught will be subject to imprisonment and a fine of a certain amount of money.
Even so, there are still many gamblers in my country who gamble using online gambling sites to avoid being caught by the authorities.

I believe the OP is just making a comparison here. Drug abusers are getting punished.
And when it comes to gambling abusers, they are also getting penalties from the site they abused with.
This is easier for online gambling sites as they will have a record how a certain player will abuse the services of the site.
Just take for example, those sign-up bonuses or free coins. The site itself can have their own security features to fight with abusers.
If not, they have their security team flagging down account of those abusers. So in a way, those who are caught of abusing the system will receive the penalties from the site according to what is stated from their terms and conditions, depending on what kind of violation that a player committed.

I totally understand your analogy between the medicine usage and gambling practice and I think it makes sense. And I would add that the medicine and gambling aren't bad or good, they are simply neutral tools people can make use of. If the consequences are going to be positive or negative, it will depend on how those people are using each of them. Therefore, gambling or medicines shouldn't be forbidden, rather people should be educated on how to use each of them for the right purposes, in a healthy way that will benefit them after all.

Gamblers who cheat should be punished accordingly to the laws defined by the casino and local regulators, the same way drugs users are.

I agree with you Gozie51 on the fact that there is no ratio to determine the rate of gambling abuse and what statistics to stand with that make a stamp to be called gambling abuse,  and if you look closely,  it is subjective and peculiar to individuals perception of what make an abuse d activities in gambling,  because what may look normal to you can be branded as an abuse by another person,  same thing with every other activity that requires human satisfaction and grading.

Gambling abuse can mean different things for different people,  but in general,  taking gambling as a means of making income is a bad idea in whatever content you try to view it,  so if you defeat the main purpose of gambling which is for entertainment and dive over into making gambling a means to generate passive income,  at that point you have lost track and you can easily slide into many other negative factors.

In my opinion, gambling abuse can lead to many serious issues starting with depression and potentially escalating to the point where the gambler might consider suicide. Therefore I believe casinos should take this matter very seriously and closely monitor gamblers' bets and activities to prevent such incidents from occurring.

Gambling should exist for entertainment purposes rather than solely being viewed as a source of income, it can never be a reliable source of income due to its high risks, and one can never be sure whether they will win or lose imo.

If we really take gambling as our source of income or we think that this could be a good for passive income then I think it will be an abuse of course, first of all it is made for people's entertainment so when things are beyond our control and it started to ruin our lives then it will be an abuse and become and addiction like in meds. Some meds are prescribe and regulated for use because it can cause addiction just like in gambling.

If they don't gamble to make money,what else can people gamble for,I thought the main purpose of gambling is making money,and it is money that people wants to make that makes them always have the urge to gamble,the only people I can say they don't gamble to make money are people who are financially stable,and according to scientist,human want are insatiable,that is to say even people that already have money still needs money, therefore,anybody can gamble,and the main purpose is to make money.
Now people who abuse gambling to me are the once who even when they don't have the money to gamble,they still borrow,steal,become debtors because they just want to gamble,and even after borrowing money,they will still loose the money.Every gambler who gambles on credit have abused gambling to me.

Well, it certainly depends on the gamblers perspective towards gambling because I know that most of us (the gamblers) are seeking gambling to make money while entertainment comes in second as that will always follow whenever we are in the middle of our activities, regardless of what games are we playing or if we are inclined to sports betting or luck based games. Abuse for me is the same because it depends on how we interpret that word, and by my words, any excess is already an abuse.

I don't get this question but if it's about abusing gambling with that drug, we don't see what actually is happening from those gamblers that do use it. Any potential abuse that can be seen, some gamblers might tempt to do it.

Give them sanction and help, if they've been abusive because of drugs. What all they need is a rehabilitation. But if it's the actual abuse that they're cheating the casino, they might even go behind bars or total ban on that casino.

Depends on the local law and business law.

When they abuse, that also means they are already addicted. That itself is already a punishment for the gamblers who couldn't stop despite losing money.  Some of them may even be trying to rob some things from someone in order to keep up their addiction. This is already a struggle.

This doesn't need to be argued though. If they turned gambling into their major source of income, it's their choice and we know how it ends to such stories if they don't quit. 
There are many stories of these people only a few have successfully got out of the addiction and gotten back up on their feet to a better life.

First I think we must establish the meaning of gambling abuse in order to discuss the topic correctly.  @OP is somehow in haste to finish the thread failing to give examples and specific meaning of the term so instead of giving a specific example, he just stated a general terms which often confused the readers.  According to the internet gambling abuse is somehow the same as gambling addiction. 

With that we can say that gambling abuse has negative effect to the person because all it can do to the gambler is harm them.  Harm them in a way how gambling addiction works like being pre-occupied by the thought of gambling, uncontrollable urge to gamble, irresponsibility and so on. 

In gambling abuse it is not a matter of being entertain or getting profit from their gambling activity but rather being hooked and get addicted to gambling.

Everything in excess is a form of an abuse regardless if it's still in line with the purpose or outside it. Earning or profiting from gambling is actually within the scope of how gambling should be, but if you're trying to make gambling as a means of living, that is obviously a form of abuse already because you need to gamble for many hours everyday as if you're in a day job.
But no, you can't arrest these kind of people because it is their money they used to o gamble and it is in their own discretion on which level they would digest the risk associated with gambling. Not unless if they commit crime to obtain some cash to do the gambling, then that obviously is against the law. But gambling excessively with your own money, the law enforcement doesn't really care about it as long you're not doing anything illegal.

Man, you are indeed correct. You forgot to mention another way of getting addicted to tramadol or any other drug that is a pain reliever in general, which is that some youths today get addicted to tramadol not only for its main purpose of taking it. but in which some people may come back from work and when they see that they feel a little headache or very tired and they see that they are experiencing some body pain, instead of these people having a bed rest and sleeping well, they will go and buy tramadol and take it to ease the pain. So you can see that some of these people who are addicted today got these conditions due to their work, and they keep buying these drugs repeatedly, and as a result, now they cannot do with these drugs every day they will be taking it.

I blame someone who uses gambling as a means of making money, which is not what it was intended for. This idea was not initially intended to be a means of support. Something that will wreck your life and cause you to feel bad but some people still utilize it as a means of making money. If they continue to view gambling as a means of making money, I'm sure that these people will experience health problems at last, since they may have a plan for every game to come as they want to help them solve there financial problems.

While I would agree with the fact that gambling can definitely be abused by people, I don't agree much with the analogy you made. Tramadol while considered a drug, is way more detrimental to people's lives than gambling in my opinion. There are people who certainly threw their lives away through gambling and I only wish these people make it out of the hell hole they subjected themselves into but not only is tramadol life-disrupting, it's also deadly when used in excess.

I would advocate under the same banner as you since I sorely abhor gambling addiction, but at the same time we gotta paint a clear picture to the people we want to send the message out to so they don't mistake/misinterpret what we're trying to say.

Very well said, but you realize the tramadol analogy is just an analogy after all, I didn't use it wit a mind of trying to compare the drug to gambling or compare gambling to the drug, from what I know, being addicted to gambling could be more dangerous to some people more than being addicted to the drug, and for others, the revise might be the cause, I personally wont come to the conclusion that either addiction to the drug or addiction to gambling is more dangerous, it all depends on the individual involved, at least, I know a gambler who was addicted to gambling for just two years and later ended his life at the beginning of the third year due to a supposed mistake he made, and having been addicted to tramadol in the past myself, I know a lot of  guys who are addicted to the drug for several years now and still alive and kicking.

So you or your friend was arguing that there is no such thing as gambling addiction? Seems pretty silly when all sorts of people end up addicted to all sorts of things. The "war on drugs" sounds good and is an easy sell for politicians, but in reality the problem has only gotten much worse since this was started decades ago and proves that it doesn't work. Offering people help and treatment should be the first step, because in the long run it will be much healthier for society and be cheaper than trying to persecute the problem away. Many gamblers end up deep in debt and misery, but do not resort to any sort of illegal behavior in the process, so they should be helped as much as possible.

Actually gambling abuse is a crime, almost every organization are built and running using policies or terms and conditions, and if you are a defaulter of the companies terms and conditions or policy you are automatically a culprit, not all culprits are being prosecuted for their crime often times the law enforcers are the ones to surfer the consequences.

I have witnessed a situation whereby an under age( not up to 18) went to a casino hall and was gambling, after a while some cops came in and arrested the manager and its workers for going against the companies policy by approving an under age gambler in the casino, the young gambler was left with advice by the cops but the manager paid severely for compromising.

from the  above experience, gambling abuse is not just subjected to how a gambler spends his finance in gambling, under age gamblers are all abusers.

Not all abusers are addicted to gambling vise versa.

Well, for me I believe the only way we can say something like gambling abuse is when the person is a minor and when a person is a gambling addict.
Gambling was never made to be the source of income, but it can be "a"source of income even if you're doing it for fun. The fact that it's supposed to be an entertainment doesn't mean it's wrong if you aim to make money from it. Isn't that the goal of gambling? Do you gamble if there is nothing to win?
Different people have different reasons why they gamble, so as far as they gamble responsibly, then it's fine by me.
There's no point policing the motive behind why people gamble or their reason for gambling.

You have built a very strange theory in which you have chosen a certain definition of gambling that suits your views. But firstly, other people may have different views, and secondly, if you look historically, then your views are definitely wrong, because initially gambling was based on the desire to win money and only on this. The cultural aspect of "playing just for fun" came much later and not everyone even now follows it. Therefore, I would say that your theory is divorced from reality and it is difficult for me to discuss it.

I don't think it's an abuse at that point,... that's just another person's view on how to utilize every privilege they've got to gamble - anyone could decide to use anything the way they want as long as it doesn't affect other people or goes against the government Policies...
I keep saying that nobody enjoys spending unnecessarily... I dunno if there's anyone though buh I believe any sane person shouldn't like weird things..
About the drug? Hmmm, mhan I didn't even stop jerking when you said you normally use them.... As what exactly if I may ask? analgesics??

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Isn't this a dereliction of duty?  This is not gambling abuse per se.  This is the manager allowing underage to gamble without thoroughly verifying their client.  This is a reason why the manager were arrested and was severely punished.

The one who commited gambling abuse here is the kid, imho, but because he is a minor and the manager failed to do his duty to prevent that kid from gambling, the punishment then was forwarded to the management.  This is one example of gambling abuse making harm to other people.

Addiction or doing up those typical gambling behaviors doesnt really shows up on some abuse because you arent that using up something unlike on what you had mentioned on that example situation
in speaking about using up some substance then it would really be just that right that you should be faced up with some charges or as long it is really that prohibited on legal laws or something then you would be facing up that problem but if those substances or drugs arent that considered illegal then it would really be just make you end up on being hospitalized or being addicted on a substance.There's a particular limitation
on what are the things that could get you imprisoned or not.

In doing gambling and having that intent on making it as a source of income then the thing you are abusing is your own money, Why? You are playing like a mad man and having to
make those things that you do have in mind to make it happen which it isnt even realistic on having this kind of approach towards gambling because not a job on which you could rely
on but rather it is really a past time on which you could really be able to have leisure on.

The effects are what makes them a criminal and I do think our governments have the numbers of criminal activities which are related to gambling abuse. Now, if authorities don't find it as worst as how it does with drug abuse, then no arrest will happen.
There's actually a big difference between the two, a gambler who abuses gambling doesn't really end up robbing a bank because his mind is intact, he is just stressed out. A drug addict has a different type of effect with drug abuse because it literally affects his brains. IMO.
Should gambling abusers be punished? I don't think so, but they do need help.

The idea of gambling being a means of entertainment was conceived in the gladiators era an epoch when gladiators had to fight each other in an arena filled with spectators that places bets on them for who will lose or win the fight. Unfortunately it were  entertainments that cost the lives of fellows humans.
Today we have different means from which we can be entertained order than gambling. The majority of gamblers today are all in for the money they would win and needless of any entertainment. I don't know if it's the narrative for the money only that has led to so much abuse of gamble ranging from one form of abuse to another.

With that we both agree. I never meant to portray that Tramadol is more destructive than gambling mind you, just that these two things disrupt the person's life in different ways. With regular gambling there's patterns you won't see from people who's drugging themselves with Tramadol, and that's my only concern cause some people may think that these two things incur the same effects to the people which goes great if you want to scare off people from gambling, but bad if you want to make a point.

At the end of the day it still stands, gambling abuse sucks, so does substance abuse. I only wish recovery for people who have subjected themselves in these dire situations.

As said people have got their rights and it is upto them to use the drugs based on their mind. We shouldn't make a connect to the gambling activities. Anything that doesn't affect the surrounding can never be judged wrong, he/she does it for self fulfilment and we don't have the rights to question unless it disturb others or the surrounding. Another thing if the money isn't involved into gambling then gambling could've never been this successful and people could've never been this active in it.

Not really, entertainment isn't the only reason people gamble. And specifically, the main income doesn't mean they have no alternatives and it doesn't mean the biggest income. But it's clear that gambling as the only means of fulfilling life's needs is the wrong reason, I mean gambling determines the continuation of their life.

The main concern is that someone gambles out of control but he considers it his main income, it is definitely not based on professionalism.

Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

Can we consider Gambling addiction as gambling abuse too?
Going beyond the limit, playing excessive games can lead to harmful things the major one to the be the loss of money which the gambler risk in gambling.

People consider investing in gambling but I think that money that is spent in gambling is being risked, either it may pay off well or it will go to zero if the luck is not on our side.

I wouldn't assume it's gambling abuse because they prioritize winning over entertainment, so I have to disagree. Winning can also be part of the entertainment, but not everyone will chase that win desperately. We've seen others maintain their gambling activities consistently without breaking their wallet.

If i'm a casino owner and I catch one of these abusers, then i'd put them on a ban list and encourage other casinos to make their own because these abusers won't stop. It's not the best punishment, but it should discourage them at some point.

That depends on what these gambling abusers have done and it can be understandable to arrest them if they somehow have gone too far (like the example you gave).

Gamblers exceeding their plan limits all less to gambling abuse, it's just facts. Before signing up for gambling, a gambler already been highlighted by the lights and darks of the system, he knows exactly what he's getting himself into, and I must say, it's very risky and capable of doing some harmful damages. We all have legal rights to do whatever we feel like doing as long as it's the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, Gambling is definitely one of the activities to indulged in specifically when there's always ways of generating incomes that would served more important purposes at home.

What I think is that abuse leads to addiction. As it is with people who abuse common over the counter drugs and get dependent on them for relief this is how it is with gambling. People who abuse it soon get hooked on it for relief or escape from their life's problem and challenges. These people need someone to really open up to and share their burdens with. They need to be someone to hold them accountable.

If there is a way, I don't think they should be arrested. They authorities should rather find a way for them to fulfil the needs of these people where gambling abuse has occupied.

It's not the main one either. The main one is the possibility of earning money.


Yes, but the term 'gambling abuse' is not used as such, as the OP tries to make it seem. Gambling addiction, gambling disorder, problem gambling are terms that are used to refer to problematic behaviour in this area, but as if we didn't already have enough terms to refer to the issue, I don't know why the OP wants to extrapolate one from another area here.

Isn't abuse and addiction the same thing? I tried to search for their difference but all I see is misinterpretation of what I'm looking for. I guess I will be basing my opinion on the substance abuse and substance addiction dichotomy, the same as OP.

Gambling abuse is when you're just starting down the path towards gambling addiction which I think is the stage where you're more likely to be helped through intervention as you are still aware that you have a problem.
I agree, as I've said, abuse is the starting path for gambling addiction which means that if you're gambling not just for entertainment and you're doing it to get a fix, there's definitely a problem there since gambling abuse means that you're lying, neglecting responsibilities and spending excessive amount of time and money for your habit.
I firmly believe in reformation and rehabilitation so I think that an intervention should be done before any drastic measure is done, as I've said and believed in my first statement about gambling abuse, they're aware that they have a problem which means that an intervention might work.
No I don't think so, most of the gambling abusers/addict aren't likely to commit crimes to get their gambling habit fix I don't know if it's true or if there's statistics for this but I'm inclined to believe that most gambling abusers/addicts are well-off in terms of finances unlike drug abusers that resort to crime to get their fix.

No, instead there are lots of abusers or gambling addicts who commit crimes.
As an example of money laundering in casinos and even worse, there are gambling addicts who are willing to commit criminal acts such as stealing, mugging and extortion just to be able to get some money so they can continue their gambling activities.
Even though it's not much, it's all the negative impact of those who can't control themselves when they are in the gambling industry.

And gambling abuse can lead to addiction in a person. This has happened to many people; like drug addiction, the effects create serious problems for addicted gamblers. They will lose a lot of money and valuables because they just want to gamble without stopping. And even though they have won, it doesn't stop them from gambling because they want more wins. Maybe if something is not used properly, it can be categorized as abuse, especially when we are talking about gambling. And people who cheat in gambling also include abuse because they don't gamble how they should and only because they want to win.

Maybe that's their goal in playing gambling but they should also realize that gambling will not be able to make money. Gambling is entertainment, just like other entertainment that we often use, so if people aim to make money from gambling, they have misused the meaning of gambling itself. And because of this abuse, they also have to know the risks because casinos will not tolerate gamblers who are caught abusing their system or cheating. And if they borrow money from other people, that includes abusing the purpose of gambling because their goals have changed.

Yes, it depends on each person. But abuse itself if we do not use something as it should and there is a tendency to use something wrong. But after all, we must be able to place gambling as entertainment and not as a way or a place to make money. It will not be able to allow us to earn money because the chances of losing will be greater than winning. So gambling abuse will only impact us where we can lose money. The worst thing is that we can lose our gambling account.

I think some casinos and third party game providers have figured out, how to make gambling addictive. Take slot technology as an example... the developers figured out that you have to design a "game" that will constantly give small rewards at random to keep the gambler playing for longer..... but if the gambler play long enough, then you can take all their money. (Enable the in-game graph on Stake.com and see the long-term downward spiral when you play slots)  ::)

They also figured out how to trigger adrenaline release with players, by giving regular "Free Spins" and small "Jackpots" .....and people gets addicted to that adrenaline rush.  :(

I did a quick Google search and yeah, it seems I was misinformed or I was just not aware that gambling addicts are capable of committing crimes because in my hometown, most people that commit crimes like theft, robbery and other stuff to get money are mostly drug addicts, the statistics in my Google search is not to be taken fully though as I believe that a proper academic study should be the reference for this kind of stuff.

How is money laundering part of gambling abuse though? I get that it's a crime but I don't think that launderers want to spend their money on gambling.

I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.

well, this topic about gambling abuse is not very different from talking about gambling addiction and for this reason I am bringing here the numbers as things are in the world so that we can make some comparisons and each person draw their own conclusions, starting with the numbers of addicts that the site currently presents:


source: https://scanteam.pro/gambling-addiction-statistics-worldwide/

this link also has a number of people addicted to gambling from some countries in particular, as we can see it is not something as if 50% or more than 50% who play are people who abuse games as it seems when I see so many threads talking about gambling addiction or abuse of gambling, for the beginning there is nothing wrong with people playing a lot sometimes as long as they are using money that they will not need, rich people for example, if they have a lot of business so they don't have problems staying all day at the casino playing, let's tell them not to abuse the game?

but we are forgetting that there are many people addicted to beer and that governments turn a blind eye to this because the owners of beer factories are themselves, to have an idea of the seriousness of the problem:


if we look at this number in terms of data from all countries we will see that the number is much scarier and I myself have seen young people in my country every day consuming beers while driving, I myself have seen cases of people who abuse sex, so I think that gambling is the one that has caused much less damage in relation to a lot of things we have in this world

it won't be strange to hear that casinos and third parties use techniques to make gamblers addicted to gambling, don't we know that they provide a place for people to seek pleasure by playing gambling and even they prepare all the games that are easy for people to gamble and can afford to sit for a long time to play, their goal is to earn money from gamblers.

Everyone loves adrenaline as much as I often feel it when gambling and playing but only within the budget that I have provided, not all will become addicts in the end just because of the adrenaline they feel, I play for fun even though I have never won big wins I already know that the casino or the dealer will always win. so there's no need to think about beating them, play and enjoy the game as well as the adrenaline, if you win then stop the game if you lose limit the budget then stop. Healthy mindset will keep us in control. at least not become addicted to gambling

nope, I don't agree that using gambling besides for entertainment is abuse. also, I guess we have very different views of "gambling abuse" When I hear gambling abuse the first thing that comes to mind is a person excessively gambling, which is gambling addiction, just like how drug abuse is drug addiction.

this is just too much and unnecessary.

That's the reality because many gamblers are thinking gambling can be a way for them to earn money. So even it is risky and there's no assurance, still, nothing can stop them. Majority of these gamblers are already addicted in gambling due to lack of control, mentally and physically.

On the other side, it's not a crime if you're a compulsive gambler and not necessary to be punished unless you're committing a crime just to sustain your gambling addiction since that's a different thing. Anyway, even it's already given that gambling is a way to entertain ourselves, it's obvious that gamblers can't follow this due to their behavior when playing. So we can't coerce them to only gamble with a desire to have fun if they have no discipline.

The problem with everyone is that they would have some kind of addiction and in the end, an addiction always ends in a bad way. You are correct anything above the threshold of normal is considered abuse. The problem is no one would accept that they are abusing themselves with an addiction. Ask a gambler and they would always say they considered themselves as a casual gambler. If everyone is gambling for entertainment then why are they end up in debt? When a gambler starts questioning himself then only they would realize the problem they have got addicted to.

People who go beyond entertaining themselves with gambling has abused gambling like you said OP. Gamble abuse is what leads people into addiction and put frustration on them. Whatever act or activities that one can be addicted to,one  should have self-control on it. No one will prosecute a gambler if he is not found going against the casino rules or have cheated the casino. We are in a free world and one can do whatever he likes with his money as long as what he is doing is legal.

Well my friend the system if things has been revolutionized and gambling is not left out in the revolution. The the current economic hardship people currently facing @op you can agree with me that getting only entertainment from partaking in gambling is not enough and without the aspect of the money involved too gambling would have gone into extinction as people would have fashioned or invented something similar to gambling but delivers beyond just entertainment.

IMO, for the part of abuse it is inevitable what we can do is find ways to curb it's increment among gamblers by counseling them about the negative effect of the attitude.

True that it is a struggle and right on that if they're abusing things just to gamble and gambling per se, that only means that they can't deny their addiction. That only proves that the addiction on them is stronger than the will to do the right thing of not abusing any means in gambling.

It's an endless argument honestly and believe me that there are people that will argue to you just to justify what they are up with their gambling addiction. They will even keep it up until they are left with nothing and that's the hardest part that they can no longer control themselves and at the same time, they've got no face to show to their relatives because of what they're experiencing.

Let me tell you something, there is nothing called gambling abuse. You can make use of your search engine for it. What I do see are gambling addiction and problem gambling. Just because I read about gambling abuse first on this thread, there is nothing I can relate it more to than gambling addiction, although there is nothing called gambling abuse, it is wrong.

If you abuse a child, that is called child abuse.
If you abuse drug, that is called drug abuse. Drug addiction.
In gambling, it is just called gambling addiction or problem gambling.

If someone accept underage gambling on your online gambling site or offline based and the person got arrested. You are just away from this discussion and off-topic because what we are discussing is not about underage gambling.

Comparing the abuse of a drug like Tramadol with the misuse of gambling, a leisure activity turned addiction, is quite enlightening. Your analogy presents a striking image. But let me throw a spanner into the works here...

It's a bit tricky to categorize gambling as 'abuse' when used outside its entertainment purpose because it becomes subjective. Who determines what entertainment is? How do we categorize risk-taking? After all, people gamble for the thrill, which might also be seen as a source of entertainment for them.

As for prosecuting 'gambling abusers', it opens a whole can of worms. How do we define the threshold of abuse? The problem is not with gambling itself, but the tendency to get addicted and lose control.

So, while I see where you're coming from, the path to 'criminalizing' excessive gambling is fraught with too many uncertainties. It's a Pandora's Box that's perhaps better left unopened...

After reading the whole story, I just churkle because I remembered what my grandma used to say to me: "Too much of everything is abuse." and the reason for her saying that to me was after I consumed a large amount of milk and began to vomit and Stooling, I totally fell sick and was hospitalised for almost a week. In relation to what I just said and about your narration and gambling, I would say that too much of everything is abuse. Food can be abused, drugs can be abused, positions can be abused, and many other things can be abused, and there are mostly some of them that you can't do anything about, no matter how hard you try. Can you ask someone who doesn't have a job to stop gambling? Yes, you can, but they will not stop because they are using it as a means of earning income. Although it still also depends on the individual, like I said before, I know of someone who is fully into gambling but is still paying his bills and taking care of his home, but with some other gamblers, it's usually the opposite.

Gambling abuse is simply gambling addiction. Everyone indeed is allowed to play and gamble. Some are financially benefiting from it and some are being entertained from doing so. Gambling for a long period of time within a day does not guarantee abad outcome. What does, is simply instances wherein emotion becomes an innate drive to go for more despite of the situation or circumstances; huge loss. Time after time, either a winning or losing bet, you'd be wanting for more in order to get back with the losses. And once you hit a huge win and have already got back with that amount, you'd be desiring for profit afterwards. Then the unfortunate will again happen, and that would be a cycle. Key player here is our emotion and our discipline with ourselves. Is gambling a dangerous activity? No, it is our intention which is.

Let me also say my view on "Gambling Abuse". Gambling Abuse is the process of unfaithful to the casino which is also violating the terms and conditions of the casino. Therefore, many gamblers abuse their gamblings to play fast game.
Op drug abuse is different from gambling Abuse. Drug abuse is the over use of the drugs or use the drug with a doctor prescription. But in gambling Abuse you play a smart game to with the bet or slot.

Life has so much to offer that concentrating on a single thing or activity exclusively to the detriment of the rest of them is a mistake, gambling is entertaining for sure but to use it as our sole source of entertainment is shortsighted, however as you said once people reach that point it is almost impossible to convince them to stop, that realization needs to come from within them, and most of the time this only happens once they have lost everything.

What you're talking about is Casino Abuse. Gambling abuse is Gambling addiction really. Although I understand why it's a bit of a misnomer too which is why I don't really use it as much as Fiverstar does. In any case while you're right about one thing and I'm not gonna take that away from you, Casino abuse is a much better term for it since it's not the act thereof of gambling that you're abusing but the vulnerabilities that the casino overlooked that you're taking advantage of. Gambling Abuse still is a term suited for the act of abusing gambling for the highs and the dopamine hits as well as the prospect of earning money.

At the end of the day let's just all agree that everything of excess is bad and should not be condoned, same goes with gambling even if you're winning a fuck ton of money from it.

Well, I think the context of the subject here is a bit different than what you described, we all know that excessive use of something is harmful to a person, whether it's abusing that thing or not, it's definitely not good for your own self, so when you do something that isn't good for yourself, you are not lawfully punishable for that since you are already punishing yourself by doing that, and that is exactly what is wrong with the point OP is trying to make.

When a person is using gambling as a way to earn money and losing all their money and stuff, there is no law that can ask them to stop, unless the constitutions of that country have a rule for it because the person is not abusing the casino as they are doing their business and a person gambling excessively is not an abuse to their business, so I don't see why a person should be punishable for doing that.

Gambling has no light at the end of it's tunnel, you will have to crawl your way out of it through out, it's total darkness.

All I can say is either abuse or addiction they both sound the same to me, and too much of everything is not always healthy for humans.

This is not a job or a business that produces a product where you can start marketing and making money, you have no services you are rendering to people, it's not about skills but yes it has something to do with fun.

Having fun and making money out of it is good, but when it gets too much into your head it's going to possibly ruin you, that's where you will start having expectations and dreams.

Have fun with gambling, only when you have spare money, and don't ever think about life changing opportunities using gambling, total darkness is what awaits you if you do.

Anything done in excess is not good for us, so we must limit it. The abuse of gambling is more for someone who does it to win the game. But he didn't think about what effect he would receive after everything ended. If someone already consumes and uses drugs excessively, he has abused the rules for using those drugs. And that is also the same as what is done by someone who gambles excessively, where he no longer sees gambling as a form of entertainment but as a way to make money. And abuse can make someone addicted and everything will change for the worse.

Not all gambling is wrong, in my opinion we have to position our way of gambling that is good, correct and disciplined according to applicable rules, so don't think that gambling is wrong. some people gamble to get additional family finances and there are also people who like it as a hobby and some just to fill their spare time.
 
I see people around me who have been gambling financially for a long time, their families are quite advanced, before they were still barely able and that is what motivated me to gamble, yes even though not all of them are successful, at least I know about gambling and of course I know all the consequences.

The sad thing about that is that people already know and have the knowledge for what is coming towards them if they chose to walk down that path without any precautions with them yet they still do it anyway with the hopes that they could bring a massive amount in their lifetime by gambling, but in the end, they found their own selves in the exact opposite situation because they fail to set boundaries before starting. By that time, they are already one of the addicted gamblers even if they themselves don't want to be in that position.

People instead of thinking themselves as average think they are exceptional, this means that when we tell them that on average they will lose money when they gamble they will simply disregard those concerns by thinking that since they are exceptional then they will get exceptional results when they gamble too, and as such they can make profits with it, then when reality does not align with their beliefs they cannot withstand it and try to recover what they have lost, an attitude that as we know can only produce even more losses.

They are aware but can't control their self just because of the pleasure and excitement that they get from gambling and they forget to stay in control. I also don't like the term abuse and its ok to use the term, irresponsible gambler because this is all about you and you discipline, so if you fail to do this then its not an abuse, its all your fault in the first place. Gambling is there to do their business, and if you become addict, that's your emotional problem so what you can do right now is to think how to control yourself and be responsible.

Yes, the word looks as if like the gambling platform have cheated or forced you to gamble. Gambling is pure business and the same is taken forward by them. It is upto the gambler whether to use it or not. Further the control and other things were upon the gambler and not on the gambling platform. Only thing the gambling platforms provide is a warning that already they've lost so and so in the last 24hrs or won specific amount. This might give some reminder to stop for the day.

Gambling will go wrong depending on how the person plays and arranges their game. As a hobby or entertainment, but if it is used as the main income in my opinion it is not good, because the risk of gambling is very high when you lose. Gambling can get a person addicted if they can't control how much they have to bet, so there are no limits. from what you said that some of your friends are financially advanced enough by gambling, it means your friends have a good strategy in gambling. But some negatives will still be there, as much as possible to stay on the right track and spend minimal money on gambling.

Yeah, but if you look at it, even if you enjoy the game, as some point, and unless you really have deep pockets and money to burn, you will have to think on how much money you actually spend on gambling. And maybe this alone will make you stop or at least lose some interest on playing with fun because of the total and accumulated money that you have lost.

Maybe just schedule like 1 or 2 days for gambling and that's it. However, we all know that it's very different for those who are really hook and addicted. As it is very difficult to get it out of the system unless they really wanted to quit for good.

People do a lot of things to play gambling and one of these people gets addicted to a different purpose because they win or because they lose a lot of money.
Gambling entertainment just gives what they are offered in the end its the person's responsibility if they will continue this expensive habit or not. The reason why some of them can't control themselves is cause of suicidal due to the amount of debts and one of their decision to get away from it.

There is no spelt out rule or statement that says that the essence of gambling is for entertainment. Gambling purpose is not for entertainment only because both the owners of the gambling companies wants to make profits because they are into business and the people that are gambling still want to win big because they invested money. So it is only a few people that see it as an entertainment.
It is just up to you to treat gambling how you see it, but there is no hard statement or information that says that the purpose of gambling is for entertainment. Gambling means different thing to different people and also the owner of the casino.

That is the sad truth.People who have difficulties in controlling their emotions usually do these kind of deeds which ends up being critical.There is unfortunately no real solution to that as this will continue to happen just as it has happened so far and these people will not cease to exist.These are really low character people and they should since the first start know themselves of being weak and should not approach gambling at all in the beginning.Casinos are doing a lot in this regard by implementing the gamble responsibly in different ways yet we have not a real solution to this problem.

Maybe you missed the part which is risk of losing and winning profit is the entertainment part on gambling or else you are just playing a normal games. You're correct that players aim is to have profit against the casino and no one plays on gambling just to play without the goal of having profit because that's the reason why we gamble, to have fun through our profit.

Entertainment has different form and its the risk/profit is makes gambling entertaining. I also disagree on the comment that gambling is just a source of so we should not aim to have profit since that's simply tossing money to the casino and how come you will have fun on ga,bling without aiming for profit.  :D

the pressure experienced by gamblers who are addicted and have a lot of debt is enormous. especially if the gambler has no more assets to cover debts. no one is to be blamed for this except the gambler himself who is not responsible for what he does.
because gambling has been around for a long time. bad things that happen to gamblers because of their irresponsible actions will continue to happen. whether it's suicide, robbery, or even disappearing after being burdened with debt and unable to pay. Such cases will always be around us.

They can avoid that pressure by reducing their gambling activities and choosing other things that may not need to use money. Reducing the desire to gamble will prevent them from losing money at gambling, where they can use the money for other, more useful things. So they won't do things that might violate the rules of the casino and the gambling account will also be safe. Moreover, if they reduce their gambling activities, their gambling account will not be suspected of doing something illegal by the casino. And that person can also go back to gambling whenever he wants so he won't have any trouble.

Some people do some extraordinarily bad things just to fund their addictions and most of these people are poor and choose to gamble their money instead of saving it. That's why when they lose it all, they also lose their minds as well because there is no turning back for them, and since they don't have any multiple sources of income, they ended up stealing other's properties and some worse cases, they hold up in the dark streets to forcibly stole money from students or workers that are passerby.

Money laundering is an illegal economic activity the process of disguising the source of illicit wealth by converting part or all of that wealth or investing it in a legitimate place so that the income earned from the invested wealth appears legitimate, many consider online gambling and casino financial piracy to be more of a form of gambling. Either the financial institutions have suffered a lot. Gambling addiction is often associated with money laundering but self-control is important in gambling if you are right this kind of activity will not have any effect.

Allow or permit me to disagree with you a bit, gambling addiction has nothing to do with laundering money, before associating addiction to gambling to laundering money, first find out what exactly is the true meaning of laundering money..
I think i explained what money laundering truly mean in one of my comments on another thread, give me a moment let me get a link to it as i cant start explaining it over and again..

Ok, so here you go .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457973.msg62624645#msg62624645 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457973.msg62624645#msg62624645)

Money laundering is a crime that is not related to gambling addiction in any way, by this, i mean that its a crime anybody can commit, even a non gambler can commit money laundering as long as they have the intention, so being addicted to gambling is nothing related to laundering money.

My brother in Christ, I didn't ask for the definition of money laundering and I don't know why that consists about 80% of your post. I was asking for the connection of money laundering and gambling abuse. What part of my question did I ask for the definition of money laundering. I guess you need to reach your posting quota?

Thanks for telling me what money laundering is though, I thought it was about washing money literally with bleach and fabric softener.

It's sad for those who really don't want to get out of gambling addiction, even though it's clear that many victims take suicide just because they have a lot of debt from losing to gambling, let alone being abandoned by their families because of gambling, obviously it's really something sad if an addict continues ambition to beat the casino and continue to feel confident that you can make big money there.

Addicts must be more aware that not everyone is rich from gambling and always make the mindset more positive that gambling is not really good for him if he himself cannot control himself, gambling will be even better if the gambler himself is able to control himself from addiction. but if on the contrary you should never do or try to gamble. it will be difficult when we really go in and gamble too deep.

Too much of everything is abuse, you need to sit and think about it, what will happen if you drink too much? What will happen if you eat too much? What will happen if you use your power on your fellow citizens because you are a high ranking official? Everything comes with a bad ending, this makes gambling not left out if this discussion, if you gamble too much you will probably lose everything because thinking straight as a gambler is very hard, it's not common to see a gambler who still take care of his family, the majority of gamblers always end up broke and someone else take over their home and they lost their wives to responsible men.

To live healthy there is an amount of sugar we must consume per day, also salt and others, to be a responsible gambler you must have an amount in mind that you are ready to lose, not going into a casino and betting all money you have in your bank account or Bitcoin wallet.

If a gambler loses everything, including his family, he should introspect on what he has done because he has abused gambling to the point where he has to go through such bad things. Even if he can bounce back and try to quit gambling, he will still find it difficult to build a relationship with his family because his family will surely be disappointed by what he does.

But there is no other way if he still thinks he needs to do complete self-healing to give up gambling forever. The abuse of this gambling can greatly impact gamblers, so those who have not experienced it must be careful.

What is the purpose of quitting gambling when you have lost everything and sold everything for gambling. You have lost your family, your near and dear ones and you do not have anything else to sell for gambling. So i don't think anyone can return from this state of mind and start living a normal life again.

An gambling addiction or a gambling abuse should be stopped at initial stages, else it will just ruin your life forever.

To me there is no clear connection between them, they seem rather two different concepts which rarely can collide in a realistic scenario.

Money laundering is about cutting the illegal trail of the money, which gambling abuse is a behavioral problem. The only scenario which comes to mind would be if a person who tries to launder money through a casino ends up losing control and becomes a problem gambler.

However, that is very situational... Both problems has little to do with each other, at first glance.

I have never heard,seen or thought about gambling being something that people can use to self-harm. I have met self-harmers but they were usually the physical kind.  If a person becomes so clinically depressed that they decide to harm themselves by harming their finances, they could definitely go to a casino and just bet it all on a single game. I have once felt something similar when I lost a lot of money in one bet. I bet a large sum of money again out of a "vengeful" feeling towards myself for losing.

But what kind of prevention help could that person receive before he decided to waste away his life's savings because it was one of the worst days in his life and he was emotionally compromised?

There's no abuse we can give to gambling without us getting abused first because we are the ones involved in gambling and what goes into gambling first comes through us, left to me alone we cannot abuse gambling except we get a used at the cause and at the end gambling is not affected but we are, we can also say that we may abuse the gambling platforms in some of our crooked ways when we wanted to cheat them by proving smart over their system, gamblers can be unpredictable in so many while attempting abuse  on different levels in gambling.

Many forms of self-harm exist. You know, mental and emotional distress can lead to poor behavior like gaming too much. Even if they don't injure themselves directly, financial ruin and worry are self-harm.

How to halt anything is complicated. It may require several steps. We need better mental health care. People would act less if they had better access to therapy, counseling, and medicine. Self-exclusion schemes in real-world and online casinos can also prevent excessive gaming.

Finally, game addiction has to be better understood. After all, the first step to tackling an issue is recognizing it, right?

Well, though I'm happy for the people that live around you and got success in gambling, I wouldn't recommend getting inspired by them and starting gambling more often than you usually do because what happens with one doesn't necessarily have to happen with another, so just because they got success in gambling, it doesn't mean that you can get success in it too because we all know that a vast majority of gamblers tend to lose more than they win.

So, one should never take gambling as a way for them to gain constant profits because it doesn't happen all the time and to everyone, there are only a specific amount of people that are so lucky that they might lose but never get in loss when they gamble and that becomes the reason why they become successful in it.

It's more like gambling and not been able to concentrate on the system. Gambling is one of the riskiest activities that we can participate in; having the presence of account liquidations is enough; instead, we simply stick to what works best for us rather than mimicking the techniques of other gamblers. Do you have a gambling problem? It is not conceivable since the system regulates everything we do as long as it involves gambling. It is critical that we establish the fundamental needs for our goals and concentrate on what we will benefit from the system.

This is how it all starts and ends with debt that cannot be prepared. To an extent, a lot of guys do get influenced by their surroundings. In this case, he saw his neighbors making money through gambling and he got inspired. None of his neighbours would tell the truth on how they are making money but the narrative that he has is what has been told by them to him. There can be exclusion when someone got lucky and was able to get a handful. That is not always the case and cannot be as people need to lose for 1 to win. In the end, those who lost have to arrange money from somewhere to recover that loss. It is a cycle that only ends with a big win or a big loss.

Abuse in Gambling mostly comes when a person is also abuser of other vises ,  specially when they are addicted in drugs as there are couple of friends of mine that turns addicted in gambling but first in drugs,
they have just used the gambling as a tripping place to sustain their boring time from the effect of drugs so they find gambling houses as a relief.
hope that one day He'll find better place than those abuses and addiction.

Looking at the existing conditions, it is indeed something like this that often happens because in this case there is actually a condition where these people have thoughts of being fed up with their condition and hope that gambling can make a reversal of the finances they have instantly.
This is like a form of desperation for someone I think because indeed they can't think of what to do to change their social status so they have narrower thoughts in the end.

I don't think we can blame this kind of thinking for everyone but on the other hand decisions like this are clearly wrong because they only want instant hope in the wrong way which in the end makes greater misery.

The goal is that we can get back up and organize our lives. We can make our goal enlightenment that we can only get after losing everything. And if someone wants to do it because they don't want to sink deeper into gambling, I think that person deserves a second chance to organize their life. But that person must have a strong desire to quit gambling and start curing his gambling addiction by using all means. He would have succeeded if he had fully realized that he was in the wrong direction by playing gambling to the point of experiencing gambling addiction and intending to change his life in a better direction.

Whatever you said is absolutely right, excess of anything is harmful, be it gambling or anything in the world, excess of even the things that are actually good and should be done is not good for anyone, but, the topic is not basically about this and you would know this if you read the OP. He has said that someone who takes gambling as a way to earn an income is abusing the term gambling because it is actually not something to be used for that.

And he also says that a person who takes gambling as a source of income should be punishable by law, which is totally absurd if you ask me. Whether gambling is or isn't for that purpose, if someone thinks of it differently and wants to achieve something from it, it will only harm them in the long run, but they are not breaking any law, and I don't really consider that being abuse at all.

The people should not have an attitude of using gambling as the income source.Because the people do gambling will have a chance of winning and losing based on their luck.The luck is not the permanent one to any people,So the income can’t be generated by the gambling.The gamblers should do the work for their real source of income,but they can use the gambling only as the entertainment source.Some gamblers had an attitude of abusing the gambling after quit of gambling.Gambling is the right of gamblers,So he can quit or play till her old ages.If you get addicted into the gambling,it’s essential one to get away from gambling.

A weak mindset is usually what causes people to be swept by others, and this is what most casinos go for. It doesn't even need for someone to just win in a casino, it just needs someone a bit of talking about all the "possible" advantages of gambling. And let's be real, the biggest advantage it has is the biggest influence someone can be swept with, money.

Abuse happens in the first place due to the life you've lived, in most cases. Whether it started from vices or whatever, it stems from the lifestyle you've experienced from young till now, and that's pretty much where every issue with regards to suicidal tendencies, depression, anger management issues, and stuff like that stem from. It's nothing new, but it's also something the majority of people can't help with unless the case was pretty much publicized.

Governments of any country use their existing laws to bring anything under control when anything goes too far and leads to a breakdown of law and order. I don't think anyone should be arrested for gambling if he loses a large amount or becomes intoxicated as a result of that loss. Because when gambling is done this kind of tendency is seen in almost many gamblers and after some time that effect also ends. In this case it does not seem that anyone should be arrested or brought to justice unless he is committing some other deadly crime.

Abusing gambling, except the individual would not come out alive. Gambling is one of the ways to make significant profits from the system, some made it out in hugh figures while some are struggling with liquidated accounts. Gambling is basically not for everyone, we gamble and also fueled up our energy whenever we're less busy, engaging in it wouldn't do any harm but when one is desperate and keen on making some money, he will definitely face the worst negative sides of gamble, the system will wrecked him and keep him in criteria circumstances and debts.

That is if they know that they shouldn't have that attitude, but many people still want to use gambling as a source of income. That causes them to abuse gambling as a source of income even though they can't get any money. People should only make gambling a means of entertainment and fun so they do not use or abuse gambling as a source of income. It won't work for them, at least for most people because some people make money gambling, but it just isn't as much as the people who lose.

I agree with what @Shosondy said that gambling abuse is not a crime. Is it the fault of the gambling abuser if he finds a casino with a leak so that he can get a profit from it? It's not as if the fault lies with the casino's Gambling platform itself because they didn't organize their website well, so clever gambling abusers took advantage of them. Then these people who do this are probably also possible cheaters. Although it is rare for gamblers to do something like this to become addicted to gambling. That's why we gamblers should never forget to always be responsible for gambling and avoid becoming addicted to it.

Taking gambling as their income source is purely depends on the gambler,but my suggestion is he should split the money he had into different parts.Some money should be invested in the cryptocurrency for his back up.He can use fifty percentage of holdings to crypto investment in trusted coin.Then he can use 30 percentage of the money in to gambling,then he need to check his luck.If he had good luck,he can use the rest 20 percentage into the gambling.So if they get into full loss after the 50 percentage,he will have remaining for the backup.This is my way of gambling to avoid of complete loss,the back up money help as the backup.

It's better if a gambler want to save his money and invest it in a good coin or in any trusted crypto currencies. And wise strategy once a gambler win a good amount of money then it's better to save it or invest it for the future. But if a gambler want to spend his all winnings in things that not too much useful then one thing I can say that mindset is not good as we all know that not all the time we won in our every bet.

You can really relate gambling addiction and gambling abuse. If a person is doing something excessively, he is somewhat abusing his capability to gamble. Going overboard on your spending limitations and time restrictions can be a sign of gambling abuse in terms of player's playing habits. The unstoppable urge of gambling despite having little to no fund for it is an evidence of gambling abuse. Sometimes, priority mismatch and poor decision making are the effects of it too just like any other kinds of vices.

It's just unfortunate how many people fall into this. I just hope that players will learn their lessons to not add up on gambling addict cases to be treated. Because after all, prevention is always better than cure.

it all depends on the gambler behavior towards a site error or a bug occurs on the gambling site. I mean when Im gambling but it turns out that the site is leaking or there is a bug there but the gambler does not know that something is wrong, he just feels if he gets continuous wins it does not matter. but if gamblers who know deliberately take advantage of these bugs, it is clear that this should not be done because every casino regulation has rules if a bug occurs and someone uses it, it is the same as breaking the rules.

I disagree- anyone can definitely start with a clean slate no matter how dreadful or hopeless their situation may be.

We always have the choice whether to accept the current circumstances or to move-on and start anew. Accepting that your life is just over just because you have lost majority of it is somehow a weak mindset. You always have to remain positive no matter how difficult the situation may be. Sure, you have lost every thing due to gambling but all hope is not lost. There are dozens of people who have fallen to this hole and most have came back up and regained their confidence. I also know some that were able to reconcile and start again with their families.

Again, gambling is destructive but even if you are on the deepest end, there is always hope for improvement and change.

Everyone has a different view whatever it is, in my opinion, the name abuse is still bad behavior, for example in my developing country there is a cannabis plant which is strictly prohibited, including on the narcotics list so that abuse is still subject to crime, while we know that in developing countries it has been legalized it is for use as medicine not for abuse.

That's why whatever it is called abuse still looks bad but I still respect anyone's opinion and views for that I also think that addicts can take advantage of that situation when the casino leaks, that's why it's done there must be a certain reason maybe they experience defeat and spend a lot of money so they might take advantage of the moment when there is an opening to cheat the casino. no harm maybe for them but for me it's wrong. the point is don't gamble too deep  :D

I think they are talking about here if the act is a crime or not while breaking the casino ToS is not a crime in legal perspective. The gambler who abuse the bug will definitely receive consequences from the casino but they will not face legal charges as this is not a crime. Casino bug is due to the casino fault and it’s a human nature to have benefits since this is not happening in daily basis.

Regardless if someone deliberately abuse it or not. I think the casino will surely punish the players that in touch with the bug and manage to get profit from it.

Exactly, a person should only be arrested or punished if gambling is prohibited in a country and they are caught gambling, not because they are gambling to earn money through it, that's their choice, as long as gambling is allowed within their country and as long as they are not doing anything that is harming someone else, they are not guilty of anything apart from spending a lot of their own money for which none of us are responsible or has to do anything.

If someone gets addicted to gambling for gambling excessively or trying to earn a living through it, it's the responsibility of those living around that person to take care of this addiction because it will ultimately be harmful to them if he gets out of hand, and if he gets out of hand and does a crime, that's when the authorities should get involved.

Some gamblers will take it as casual by knowing it's also the site as like the other normal website.But some get temper because of involving of money,if the website is get stuck at the time of game.Then most of the gamblers will get temp.Because losing because of bad luck is different from losing due to the bug or website get hanged.The gambler should take responsibility and report the bug to the gambling site.Then they will encounter the bug and the issue get resolved.If you lose some money due to website hang,you are free to ask the gambling site to refund the loss money.Mostly the gambling site will refund such money to the users.

To look at the term deeper, let us know what abuse means:



From the definition, abuse is to use something to bad effect or for a bad purpose.  Now integrating it to gambling, gambling abuse, since gambling has something to do with legal procedures, any means of gambling abuse is illegal and that makes it a crime.  We can agree to disagree but the fact that gambling abuse means using gambling for a bad effect or bad purpose makes it an offense the the gambling regulatory board.  Now would do we still think that gambling abuse(except problem gambling) isn't a crime?  Regardless if gambling is prohibited or allowed, when it is abused it means the abuser crossed the line thus they should be held accountable for a crime of gambling abuse (except problem gambling).

I think from the standpoint of op's meaning of gambling abuse, he is not dealing basically on the dictionary meaning of abuse or literal meaning but he is looking at it holistically to gambling and not to law, illegality or crime and money laundary etc. He is talking about the abuse that bettors have now started leaving the entertainment aspect of gambling and leaving out the profit benefits to the entertainment and now focusing on using gambling as a source of income.

By gambling abuse we mean when a person becomes addicted to gambling and continues to abuse it. There are individuals who choose gambling as their source of income when they gamble here and abuse it. We know gambling firstly if a person starts betting then he becomes more addicted to it and gradually he gets greedy for casino. Many times it is seen that when a gambler goes to bet big sums he decides to bet all the money instead of taking it as a source of income but not being able to handle the greed with that money. But when he bets with all his money then he loses his money and he is very broke and it is only because of his abuse.

Gambling abuse does not always means that it has something to do with legal matters or anything that the authority has the power to abstain you for doing such illegal stuff while gambling, but it could also mean that it's an excessive gambling habits that it became uncontrollable, thus spending every penny the person has just to try and satisfy it's gambling needs or the urge to get a big win. Abuse has always something to do with doing something excessively, legally or illegally. Gambling away all your monthly payroll in a single night is not a crime, but an abuse.  You are held accountable for not a crime, but being an irresponsible person who can't control his urge to gamble. Especially when you're a family man.
Abusive act of crimes in gambling may involve in altering something to change the outcome of machine (slot machine for example) to make it more favorable on your side or any activities that cheats your way to a win inside a casino and being exploitative about it. That is a perfect example of illegal gambling abuse.

Gambling may either make or break a person. It's a game, so don't become engrossed because there are both positive and negative outcomes. Addicts take advantage of their situation and lose practically everything when they go on a losing sprint. Gambling eventually emptied one's bank account. It's always best to approach the system with the correct stable mindset, rather than the gambling one that's eager to risk everything for a chance to win. Gambling does not operate that way; instead, it should be viewed as a route activity that keeps us engaged in our spare time, and we foresee and take calculated risks on our principles, rather than the other way around.

A person with a gambling addiction may not think about gambling abuse because he wants to win. And perhaps he will use all kinds of ways to get the win, including methods considered gambling abuse. And when a person is gambling for the first time, it can be very easy for him to return to the casino because he will remember what he got the first time he gambled, and if he wins, he wants to get it again. And if he loses, maybe he wants to avenge or recover his defeat first. But he should be able to avoid gambling again because it might not give him a win or be able to recover from his losses because gambling could give him another loss.

It is true that both reasons for gambling bring a gambler back again and again. Some gamblers are motivated to win more after they win and some lose and come back to recover that money. If one can enjoy the pleasure of gambling for once, he will definitely try to continue gambling. Every gambler should be calm in that situation. Greed will work in gamblers but if they control that greed they will not suffer rather they will gain more. If someone acquires a good knowledge of self-control before gambling, they can do relatively better in gambling.

This is a common thing among gamblers because that's what makes them hype when they get some money to play again but the problem here is the negative effect of the addiction if the gambler cannot control himself to stop when things are not going well anymore for him but instead, he always pursues his goal to get back what he lost and probably do some crazy things just to fund his addiction. In our country, not only men but also women are now engaging in this kind of thing rather than raising their children well in their homes together.

Not only someone who is addicted to gambling, but anyone anywhere who has the intention or purpose of using gambling to be able to provide personal gain will certainly not think of abusing gambling, for example, someone who has a crime case related to large amounts of will definitely only think of using gambling as a a place to launder all the money in order to get rid of evidence or traces of crime.
That's natural because everyone, especially those who are still beginners, have more high curiosity and don't even care about the risks involved and the most important thing is that they prioritize to be able to win, win and win in greater numbers.
Whether they win or lose, I think they will keep coming back to gambling because gambling has changed the point of view, way of thinking and also the initial purpose of getting into gambling.
For those who are already fond of gambling it will still be difficult to avoid gambling again and the shadow of defeat appears every time which makes the feeling of wanting to get back the lost money in.

Abuse can be done from all elements that meet the requirements to do so. in gambling, it doesn't feel right if someone becomes addicted to gambling and then we categorize it as abuse. if we refer to the OP thread, especially those related to drugs, which should be redeemed through a doctor's prescription. we can conclude, if someone buys it illegally then clearly he has made a mistake and is included in the category of abuse.

But for gambling, IMO it is very biased if we try to compare it. At present gambling is included in the category of types of entertainment in the modern era, in fact there are many countries that have legalized it. legally every gambler who becomes an addict, is the result of his own fault. So, no abuse in this case. well, as I said above, gambling abuse can be done from all elements that qualify to abuse it. for example, cheating on the casino, or, trying to sell an account that is actually not allowed by the casino. there are many other examples, which fall into the category of abuse. however, not for gamblers who become addicts.

Gambling will give the opportunity or get the gambler into the loan.When the profit get from the gambling,most gamblers will recreate his own life in different manner.Mostly the gambler will start the business with the wining money,few will reinvest the entire money into gambling to get the big fish.But the big fish concept may or may not works.The addicted had a chance of losing the entire funds to the gambling.But normal gamblers will use the winning money very productively.The addicted will empty their bank account after the entire winning money may loss.Because the addicted will playing the gambling with the emotions.

If they can't control their greed, they will continue to lose money, especially if they can't control themselves in trying to recover from previous losses. They will not be able to enjoy gambling as entertainment, instead, they will chase victory, which will be more difficult. It is better that they can control themselves to prevent the greed that will come to them, especially when they can win at gambling. They will not experience more losses because of the self-control they have exercised, and they can use gambling as entertainment.

They will think about how to achieve their goals and intentions, perhaps they will even try to use them for illegal activities that the casino prohibits. But they don't care and will do it anyway. When someone has had fun playing gambling, they will return another day and perhaps use more money. And that has happened to other people who have played gambling more often, but in getting wins, they are still having trouble. Only good self-control can stop gamblers from sinking too deep into gambling and prevent problems that can occur while gambling. But if they only want to win, it won't be easy for them to stop gambling or even take a break from gambling for a while.

Abuse occurs when we use it excessively. So in terms of gambling, if we use gambling excessively or in the sense that we exceed the limits we set, it means that we have abused the use of gambling intended to get entertainment. But instead, we use gambling as a way to earn income where it will not always work. Maybe some people can get money from gambling, but many are not successful and instead lose a lot of money.

So if someone uses gambling excessively, he has the risk of losing more money and also becoming addicted. It will start from being addicted to playing different gambling games again until he finally becomes comfortable playing gambling. And if they remain oblivious to what they are doing, the addiction will grow and eventually develop into a full-blown gambling addiction.

The word gambling abuse can mean two ways, there is the one that the individual abuse gambling by getting uncontrollably addicted to gambling as you mentioned, and the other form of gambling abuse is the abuse that the gambler try to abuse the features and promotions of the casino in other the cash out on the casino, but then most evil comes from the second form of abuse which can sometimes be in form of hacking of the casino or using a bot to beat the house edge.
So gambling addiction is the lesser form of abuse since the impact of such abuse is on the gambler himself.

I think it could be the initial definition that you put it, at least that's who I understand. We become addicted and then we abuse everything around it, even our families and not prioritizing them, just bring food in the table and others that our family needed.

As for your second definition, it's just a small chance that there could be exploits and hacks that we can perform on gambling sites. And if ever we do that, they can easily find out what we did and we can't even withdraw our winnings.

I am not talking about abused by the gambler because gamblers can at most abuse the bonus system but the use of bot and hacking of casinos which is also another form of abuse are done from outsider attackers who target both the casino and they clients at will and making sure to exploit any chance to steal from the accounts.
Take the recent stake casino hack for instance, the hackers were not gambling on the casino but yet their abused the casino systems and pulled out a large sum of money from the casinos, and in some cases gamblers accounts are not spare in such attacks too.

But do we actually know how the Stake wallet was hacked? Was it hacked at all, or was it an inside job, a leak of sensitive data, poor operational security, a software flaw, or something else? We will probably never know for sure.