Gambling Abuse ...

[noorman0]

Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

Not really, entertainment isn't the only reason people gamble. And specifically, the main income doesn't mean they have no alternatives and it doesn't mean the biggest income. But it's clear that gambling as the only means of fulfilling life's needs is the wrong reason, I mean gambling determines the continuation of their life.

The main concern is that someone gambles out of control but he considers it his main income, it is definitely not based on professionalism.

[dothebeats]

Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

[noormcs5]

Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

Can we consider Gambling addiction as gambling abuse too?
Going beyond the limit, playing excessive games can lead to harmful things the major one to the be the loss of money which the gambler risk in gambling.

People consider investing in gambling but I think that money that is spent in gambling is being risked, either it may pay off well or it will go to zero if the luck is not on our side.

[ralle14]

Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?
If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

I wouldn't assume it's gambling abuse because they prioritize winning over entertainment, so I have to disagree. Winning can also be part of the entertainment, but not everyone will chase that win desperately. We've seen others maintain their gambling activities consistently without breaking their wallet.

If i'm a casino owner and I catch one of these abusers, then i'd put them on a ban list and encourage other casinos to make their own because these abusers won't stop. It's not the best punishment, but it should discourage them at some point.

That depends on what these gambling abusers have done and it can be understandable to arrest them if they somehow have gone too far (like the example you gave).

[Josefjix]

Can we consider Gambling addiction as gambling abuse too?
Going beyond the limit, playing excessive games can lead to harmful things the major one to the be the loss of money which the gambler risk in gambling.

People consider investing in gambling but I think that money that is spent in gambling is being risked, either it may pay off well or it will go to zero if the luck is not on our side.

Gamblers exceeding their plan limits all less to gambling abuse, it's just facts. Before signing up for gambling, a gambler already been highlighted by the lights and darks of the system, he knows exactly what he's getting himself into, and I must say, it's very risky and capable of doing some harmful damages. We all have legal rights to do whatever we feel like doing as long as it's the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, Gambling is definitely one of the activities to indulged in specifically when there's always ways of generating incomes that would served more important purposes at home.

[Davidvictorson]

What I think is that abuse leads to addiction. As it is with people who abuse common over the counter drugs and get dependent on them for relief this is how it is with gambling. People who abuse it soon get hooked on it for relief or escape from their life's problem and challenges. These people need someone to really open up to and share their burdens with. They need to be someone to hold them accountable.

If there is a way, I don't think they should be arrested. They authorities should rather find a way for them to fulfil the needs of these people where gambling abuse has occupied.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Not really, entertainment isn't the only reason people gamble.

It's not the main one either. The main one is the possibility of earning money.

What I think is that abuse leads to addiction. As it is with people who abuse common over the counter drugs and get dependent on them for relief this is how it is with gambling. People who abuse it soon get hooked on it for relief or escape from their life's problem and challenges.

Yes, but the term 'gambling abuse' is not used as such, as the OP tries to make it seem. Gambling addiction, gambling disorder, problem gambling are terms that are used to refer to problematic behaviour in this area, but as if we didn't already have enough terms to refer to the issue, I don't know why the OP wants to extrapolate one from another area here.

[Latviand]

what do you think about this?

Isn't abuse and addiction the same thing? I tried to search for their difference but all I see is misinterpretation of what I'm looking for. I guess I will be basing my opinion on the substance abuse and substance addiction dichotomy, the same as OP.

Gambling abuse is when you're just starting down the path towards gambling addiction which I think is the stage where you're more likely to be helped through intervention as you are still aware that you have a problem.

Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

I agree, as I've said, abuse is the starting path for gambling addiction which means that if you're gambling not just for entertainment and you're doing it to get a fix, there's definitely a problem there since gambling abuse means that you're lying, neglecting responsibilities and spending excessive amount of time and money for your habit.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?

I firmly believe in reformation and rehabilitation so I think that an intervention should be done before any drastic measure is done, as I've said and believed in my first statement about gambling abuse, they're aware that they have a problem which means that an intervention might work.

Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

No I don't think so, most of the gambling abusers/addict aren't likely to commit crimes to get their gambling habit fix I don't know if it's true or if there's statistics for this but I'm inclined to believe that most gambling abusers/addicts are well-off in terms of finances unlike drug abusers that resort to crime to get their fix.

[tusandii]

Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

No I don't think so, most of the gambling abusers/addict aren't likely to commit crimes to get their gambling habit fix I don't know if it's true or if there's statistics for this but I'm inclined to believe that most gambling abusers/addicts are well-off in terms of finances unlike drug abusers that resort to crime to get their fix.

No, instead there are lots of abusers or gambling addicts who commit crimes.
As an example of money laundering in casinos and even worse, there are gambling addicts who are willing to commit criminal acts such as stealing, mugging and extortion just to be able to get some money so they can continue their gambling activities.
Even though it's not much, it's all the negative impact of those who can't control themselves when they are in the gambling industry.

[ethereumhunter]

The purpose of gambling like we are trying to discuss is actually subjective as the responses have suggested with individuals different views. So likewise gambling "abuse", like is there any standard for gambling abuse when the law did not make it so. I think abuse is what you feel having negative effect on you or other person that at the extreme might cause loss of life. Drug abuse might have direct cause to death because drug is a substance going inside your body and might harm your health but a gambler may become an addict and it effect needs an extraneous support or contribution if death will ever occur.

And gambling abuse can lead to addiction in a person. This has happened to many people; like drug addiction, the effects create serious problems for addicted gamblers. They will lose a lot of money and valuables because they just want to gamble without stopping. And even though they have won, it doesn't stop them from gambling because they want more wins. Maybe if something is not used properly, it can be categorized as abuse, especially when we are talking about gambling. And people who cheat in gambling also include abuse because they don't gamble how they should and only because they want to win.

If they don't gamble to make money,what else can people gamble for,I thought the main purpose of gambling is making money,and it is money that people wants to make that makes them always have the urge to gamble,the only people I can say they don't gamble to make money are people who are financially stable,and according to scientist,human want are insatiable,that is to say even people that already have money still needs money, therefore,anybody can gamble,and the main purpose is to make money.
Now people who abuse gambling to me are the once who even when they don't have the money to gamble,they still borrow,steal,become debtors because they just want to gamble,and even after borrowing money,they will still loose the money.Every gambler who gambles on credit have abused gambling to me.

Maybe that's their goal in playing gambling but they should also realize that gambling will not be able to make money. Gambling is entertainment, just like other entertainment that we often use, so if people aim to make money from gambling, they have misused the meaning of gambling itself. And because of this abuse, they also have to know the risks because casinos will not tolerate gamblers who are caught abusing their system or cheating. And if they borrow money from other people, that includes abusing the purpose of gambling because their goals have changed.

Well, it certainly depends on the gamblers perspective towards gambling because I know that most of us (the gamblers) are seeking gambling to make money while entertainment comes in second as that will always follow whenever we are in the middle of our activities, regardless of what games are we playing or if we are inclined to sports betting or luck based games. Abuse for me is the same because it depends on how we interpret that word, and by my words, any excess is already an abuse.

Yes, it depends on each person. But abuse itself if we do not use something as it should and there is a tendency to use something wrong. But after all, we must be able to place gambling as entertainment and not as a way or a place to make money. It will not be able to allow us to earn money because the chances of losing will be greater than winning. So gambling abuse will only impact us where we can lose money. The worst thing is that we can lose our gambling account.

[Kakmakr]

I think some casinos and third party game providers have figured out, how to make gambling addictive. Take slot technology as an example... the developers figured out that you have to design a "game" that will constantly give small rewards at random to keep the gambler playing for longer..... but if the gambler play long enough, then you can take all their money. (Enable the in-game graph on Stake.com and see the long-term downward spiral when you play slots) 

They also figured out how to trigger adrenaline release with players, by giving regular "Free Spins" and small "Jackpots" .....and people gets addicted to that adrenaline rush. 

[Latviand]

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No, instead there are lots of abusers or gambling addicts who commit crimes.
As an example of money laundering in casinos and even worse, there are gambling addicts who are willing to commit criminal acts such as stealing, mugging and extortion just to be able to get some money so they can continue their gambling activities.
Even though it's not much, it's all the negative impact of those who can't control themselves when they are in the gambling industry.

I did a quick Google search and yeah, it seems I was misinformed or I was just not aware that gambling addicts are capable of committing crimes because in my hometown, most people that commit crimes like theft, robbery and other stuff to get money are mostly drug addicts, the statistics in my Google search is not to be taken fully though as I believe that a proper academic study should be the reference for this kind of stuff.

How is money laundering part of gambling abuse though? I get that it's a crime but I don't think that launderers want to spend their money on gambling.

[crwth]

I think it's not about abuse, but not knowing what it could do to you in the long term is the problem. Imagine, it's you who is being abused, not gambling. Gambling must be controlled, and your urge to gamble should be managed. It's weird to use "abuse" with "gambling" because it's not being used as something to be abused.

[Slow death]

well, this topic about gambling abuse is not very different from talking about gambling addiction and for this reason I am bringing here the numbers as things are in the world so that we can make some comparisons and each person draw their own conclusions, starting with the numbers of addicts that the site currently presents:

GAMBLING ADDICTION STATISTICS WORLDWIDE IN 2022



To understand the scale of problems with modern casino games, here come gambling addiction facts and statistics:

- In each group of 100 players, 3 to 5 of them struggle with gambling addiction
- The risks are increased by 23-fold when players have problems with an alcohol disorder
- Among American players, 1% has serious problems with casino games
- Regarding UK adults, this percentage is decreased to 0.5%
- The group of players who are twice more affected by the problem is adult college students
- In China, the rehabilitation center for addictive players caters approximately 50 new patients monthly
- Only 1% of women who face gambling addiction ask for professional help
- Over 750,000 young people of 14 to 21 have problems with compulsive gaming

source: https://scanteam.pro/gambling-addiction-statistics-worldwide/

this link also has a number of people addicted to gambling from some countries in particular, as we can see it is not something as if 50% or more than 50% who play are people who abuse games as it seems when I see so many threads talking about gambling addiction or abuse of gambling, for the beginning there is nothing wrong with people playing a lot sometimes as long as they are using money that they will not need, rich people for example, if they have a lot of business so they don't have problems staying all day at the casino playing, let's tell them not to abuse the game?

but we are forgetting that there are many people addicted to beer and that governments turn a blind eye to this because the owners of beer factories are themselves, to have an idea of the seriousness of the problem:

Every day, about 37 people in the United States die in drunk-driving crashes — that's one person every 39 minutes. In 2021, 13,384 people died in alcohol-impaired driving traffic deaths — a 14% increase from 2020. These deaths were all preventable.

if we look at this number in terms of data from all countries we will see that the number is much scarier and I myself have seen young people in my country every day consuming beers while driving, I myself have seen cases of people who abuse sex, so I think that gambling is the one that has caused much less damage in relation to a lot of things we have in this world

[piebeyb]

I think some casinos and third party game providers have figured out, how to make gambling addictive. Take slot technology as an example... the developers figured out that you have to design a "game" that will constantly give small rewards at random to keep the gambler playing for longer..... but if the gambler play long enough, then you can take all their money. (Enable the in-game graph on Stake.com and see the long-term downward spiral when you play slots) 

They also figured out how to trigger adrenaline release with players, by giving regular "Free Spins" and small "Jackpots" .....and people gets addicted to that adrenaline rush. 

it won't be strange to hear that casinos and third parties use techniques to make gamblers addicted to gambling, don't we know that they provide a place for people to seek pleasure by playing gambling and even they prepare all the games that are easy for people to gamble and can afford to sit for a long time to play, their goal is to earn money from gamblers.

Everyone loves adrenaline as much as I often feel it when gambling and playing but only within the budget that I have provided, not all will become addicts in the end just because of the adrenaline they feel, I play for fun even though I have never won big wins I already know that the casino or the dealer will always win. so there's no need to think about beating them, play and enjoy the game as well as the adrenaline, if you win then stop the game if you lose limit the budget then stop. Healthy mindset will keep us in control. at least not become addicted to gambling

[acroman08]

what do you think about this?
Do you agree that gambling outside what gambling is meant for is abuse on gambling?

nope, I don't agree that using gambling besides for entertainment is abuse. also, I guess we have very different views of "gambling abuse" When I hear gambling abuse the first thing that comes to mind is a person excessively gambling, which is gambling addiction, just like how drug abuse is drug addiction.

If you agree, what do you think should be done to gambling abusers if there was a way to catch them?
Should they be arrested and prosecuted same way drug abusers are arrested and prosecuted if caught?

this is just too much and unnecessary.

[lienfaye]

Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

That's the reality because many gamblers are thinking gambling can be a way for them to earn money. So even it is risky and there's no assurance, still, nothing can stop them. Majority of these gamblers are already addicted in gambling due to lack of control, mentally and physically.

On the other side, it's not a crime if you're a compulsive gambler and not necessary to be punished unless you're committing a crime just to sustain your gambling addiction since that's a different thing. Anyway, even it's already given that gambling is a way to entertain ourselves, it's obvious that gamblers can't follow this due to their behavior when playing. So we can't coerce them to only gamble with a desire to have fun if they have no discipline.

[pakhitheboss]

Anything that goes well above the threshold of normal can mean abuse, so gambling isn't really something that's far off from that. There are a lot of people that are 'abusing' their freedom with gambling and ended up racking debts that are obviously not attractive. Moderation and control in everything that we do is the key to not resulting into any "abuse" that will be harmful to us along the way. What simple fun to us could mean a lot of danger in the future if we keep things unchecked.

The problem with everyone is that they would have some kind of addiction and in the end, an addiction always ends in a bad way. You are correct anything above the threshold of normal is considered abuse. The problem is no one would accept that they are abusing themselves with an addiction. Ask a gambler and they would always say they considered themselves as a casual gambler. If everyone is gambling for entertainment then why are they end up in debt? When a gambler starts questioning himself then only they would realize the problem they have got addicted to.

[Merit.s]

People who go beyond entertaining themselves with gambling has abused gambling like you said OP. Gamble abuse is what leads people into addiction and put frustration on them. Whatever act or activities that one can be addicted to,one  should have self-control on it. No one will prosecute a gambler if he is not found going against the casino rules or have cheated the casino. We are in a free world and one can do whatever he likes with his money as long as what he is doing is legal.

[letteredhub]

How Does This Abuse Relate to Gambling?
We all know that gambling is originally meant to act as a means of entertainment, that is, its one of the ways people entertain themselves and in so doing, they stand a chance at winning money..
Today, because of the possibility to win money through gambling, Many gamblers no longer gamble as way of being entertained, but have turned gambling into  their major source of income, this is abuse because gambling was never meant to be a source of income or livelihood to anyone, but rather, another way for players to entertain themselves.

Well my friend the system if things has been revolutionized and gambling is not left out in the revolution. The the current economic hardship people currently facing @op you can agree with me that getting only entertainment from partaking in gambling is not enough and without the aspect of the money involved too gambling would have gone into extinction as people would have fashioned or invented something similar to gambling but delivers beyond just entertainment.

IMO, for the part of abuse it is inevitable what we can do is find ways to curb it's increment among gamblers by counseling them about the negative effect of the attitude.