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When I first saw your ANN, my first thought it was another popular instant exchange (https://stealthex.io), only to realize that there are some differences.

Why the choice of similar domain name, though?

Where are your terms of service?

Hi, thank you for questions.

Stealth is a generic word and "stealth account" is a popular term in the business. For example "Stealth PayPal account" is used for pointing a PayPal account which does not have relation with your identity. Also they are providing exchange services, we are in a different industry. So we don't think it can cause a serious confusion.

Instead of complex ToS page, we prefer simplified FAQ (https://stealths.net/faq) page which explains generic (refunds, no KYC status, delivery etc.) terms. Also each product has a detailed description about its terms, prohibited actions and other useful info. But we still have an external Terms page (created to apply listing websites), you can view it here: https://stealths.net/terms.

Thanks for your response.
I understand that they can be lengthy and complex, but still good if they can easily be accessible on the site. Like on the footer of the homepage and another link right before one is about to make a purchase.

The FAQ section can't contain everything that is in the TOS.

Yes, that makes sense. I'll check where can we add ToS and similar links, thank you for contribution.

I'm not sure that the cards will be very useful if they don't have 3D Secure which is not supported by the ones you're selling.

Also, don't you think it would be good to have a "Stealth Paypal account" option for people to purchase, or is that impractical? There's probably a lot of people who would jump at the chance to buy one (as long as it doesn't get limited).

Hi, yes currently 3D is not supported. But I have to say that these virtual cards have higher approval rates rather than prepaid cards. So they work on merchants which support 3D but don't force it. But we are working on some 3D solution, there will be a manual service in the worst case.

We're working on selling "stealth accounts". I guess we'll add some reloadable prepaid card account with SEPA IBAN at first. But we may add PayPal too. I'll share updates on this thread..

Nice.

Do consider starting a mailing list too so you can send out these updates to the audience even outside of Bitcointalk.

We probably won't launch mailing list, because website is designed to get the least amount of info from customers. We don't even require email for delivery.
But we have Telegram channel for updates: https://t.me/stealthsnet
Probably gonna create a Nostr account too soon.

I have just seen your service on the forum and visited the site and I came to know that your cards is accepted on Paypal. I will try to use the service if it is really safe and secure. I think it will be a helpful site for a lot of people like me who want to use Paypal and other services which you have mentioned.

Hi, yes virtual cards are tested on PayPal. Also it's possible to see transaction history, so you can grab the code for PayPal to verify the card.

Is there any name written on this cards or not?
Several people asked me for virtual cards that for on Alirexpress but I couldn't find anything that works, maybe you can tell me if cards on your website work.
It sucks to see that cards are valid only for two weeks, that is much less than what competition is offering.

Hi, our virtual cards are valid for two weeks for now. Prepaid cards are valid for 6 months.
Virtual cards are have written name and linked address. Prepaid gift cards don't have name and address, they could be used with any name & address. I'm unsure about Aliexpress, but since they accept credit card, Google Pay or PayPal. One of them should work imo.

P.S.: It would be great if you could let me know about that which providers issue virtual cards with longer validity. You can send me a PM.

What is the difference between Virtual and Prepaid cards? They are both virtual if I understand correctly, there is no physical cards?

Is it some random name given by you, or I would have to register and enter all data myself?

Thebitcoincompany.com has Visa cards that works for many months and they have higher limits, and I think Bitrefill.com have something similar.
There is one more provider but their cards only work in United States currently.

1. Virtual cards are linked to a bank account, they look like a real credit/debit card so they have higher approval rate on merchants. They might be allowed on merchants which doesn't accept prepaid cards.
2. For virtual cards we provide cardholder name and billing address. For prepaid cards you should use random name and address.
3. The companies you mentioned provides prepaid cards, not virtual. Btw our prepaid cards also work for 6 months, it's same for almost all prepaid card sellers.

Ok, I understand now.
For me they are all virtual and prepaid because I need to pay with coins to send money on cards, that is why I was confused.

I was reading terms on VISA Virtual card and I see that it's only possible to make single purchase in the same day... not exactly what I was looking for, that is even worse than Mastercard 2 weeks limit.
https://stealths.net/product/visa-vcc-manual

Yeah, prepaid cards may also work for target website but make sure they accept them. Otherwise it would be waste of money.

VISA manual VCC is our new product, it's for single time payments. It's different than Mastercard auto VCC, this card supports 3D secure. And it's accepted on almost all merchants.

Any reviews on this service? The instant SEPA transfer seems interesting to me. I would just like to read some trusted reviews from other forum members, before I give it a try.

Hi Bitcointalk community. Our website has launched 3 months ago with an exclusive service, no-kyc virtual cards. It was a successful launch but we needed to disable automated card services after first month due to issues related with card issuer.
After some break, we are happy to announce that we have completed integration of automated prepaid cards. You can buy a prepaid card and receive details right after payment confirmation on the blockchain. By the way, we have 3D prepaid card option this time, perfect choice for European users.

⭐ VISA International Prepaid Card (3D secure, Google Pay, Apple Pay) (https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international)
💳 MasterCard EU/US Prepaid Card (Google Pay, Apple Pay) (https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto)
🇺🇸 VISA Gift Card (US only) (https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto)

Maximum card limit is $1000 at the moment.

Also, if you need an anonymous virtual phone number, you may check our virtual number service too:
📲 Virtual Phone Number (valid for 1 year) (https://stealths.net/product/virtual-phone-number)

Accepted cryptocurrencies: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, BNB, Litecoin, Tron, USDT (TRC-20 & BEP-20) and Monero
Store page: https://stealths.net/store

Are you totally sure that this card will be valid for 3 years, like it is written on your website?
It sucks that we can't reload the card, and some problems can happen again n future like when you disabled cards the last time.

PS
Please tell me in what stealths support option are you more active, email, session or telegram?

Validity of card is 3 years after the activation, card issuer is a big company on the gift card industry and cards are not processed by us, so even if we close our website you can keep using and managing the prepaid card.
Last time we only disabled new orders and existing cards kept working fine, we didn't have an option for reloading cards. I didn't exactly get what problem it caused.

We check all messages regularly but Telegram is preferred to communicate quicker. Because Session app has some issues with notifications.

Hi, do you have any plans on adding more options to your virtual phone numbers? I've been looking for a Chinese number for months already, but it seems nobody can provide that. Those who claim can provide it, request a very expensive fee. Other services request my private information and I doubt its legitimacy in the end. I can understand the difficulties since every number must be registered with a Chinese ID, but what about countries like India or other countries in general? 

Hi, those countries are not available on our current provider at the moment. Currently it doesn't seem like we will be able to add other countries in the future but we'll update on this thread.

You can try another alternative for Telegram and Session if you want real privacy, that is app called SimpleX.chat.
Notifications work much better, they can be customized, there is no ID or phone number connected with accounts, and simplex chat can be used on all devices.

Good bye, 2023!  8)

We would like to express our gratitude to our customers who supported us throughout the launch year. May the new year bring opportunities, success and happiness to the entire crypto community.

Stealths (https://stealths.net) will be available in 2024 with more KYCless crypto cashout services.

New products!

We are testing two new services: Airbnb Gift Card (US) (https://stealths.net/product/airbnb-us-auto) and Amazon Gift Card (US) (https://stealths.net/product/amazon-us-auto). Both are automated, gift cards get activated right after payment. Depending on the demand, we may integrate new services.

Feel free to share your opinions: Contact us (https://stealths.net/contact)

Can any of your cards be used for twitter aka X platform as payment of their services, even gift cards would work for this?

I saw several people asking about alternative way of paying indirectly using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Direct BTC payments would be better but clown Elon is probably making his own all-in-one payment system.  :P

Hi, VISA Prepaid International (https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international) works for payments on X (Twitter).

Virtual number stocks renewed!

You can purchase a virtual phone number to receive SMS from online services: https://stealths.net/product/virtual-phone-number
The number is valid for 1 year and you can extend lifespan before it expires.

@StealthsNet, when it comes to your VISA International Prepaid Card, I did a little research and although it seems to me that the matter is quite clear, can you confirm that this card cannot be used to pay in physical stores when it is added to Google/Apple Pay?

Your provider states the following in its FAQ :

Hi, VISA international card can be used in physical stores with Apple Pay or Google Pay. We (and our clients) tested in Europe, UK and some other countries. So, card issuer doesn't block physical payments via mobile wallets. They probably try to explain that it's totally virtual and there is no way to convert card to physical card (some other card providers have such option).

Note: It works in most stores, however some users reported that prepaid cards don't work in some specific stores while it works at different places. We recommend to test with small amount first.

Thanks for the answer, it really wouldn't make sense for someone to enter the data from the card manually when we already have technology that makes it possible to pay with virtual cards in a safe and simple way.

As for the amount on the card, I don't know if it depends on you or the card provider, but I personally would like to see €300 and €750 cards. Of course, it is possible to buy 2x150 or 500+250 card, but that means paying cryptocurrency fees twice.

Thank you for suggestions, it depends on provider at the moment but we are in contact with them to have more options.

Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

Can I use this to sign up for an AWS Free Tier account? If yes, what would be the Cardholder's name?

For this product, you set the cardholder name on card activation, so it can be anything.
Prepaid cards may not work for free trials.

It's great that you raised the max limit of the card and that there are no more restrictions in terms of pre-determined amounts. If possible, I would suggest one change on the page regarding "Net amount you want to receive" which is expressed in EUR and "Total amount to pay" which is expressed in $ - because for some it can be a bit confusing when it comes to fees.

When, for example, someone wants to get EUR 1500 on the card, they have to pay $1683, so for someone who doesn't see the difference in currency, it can seem like a really big fee. The fee is actually (depending on the exchange rate) around 55-60 EUR.

Hello.

We are also aware of that it's a little bit confusing. We are currently working on USD international cards to overcome currency confusion, but meanwhile a UX change could be helpful.

Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!

You're welcome :)

I remembered that one member of the forum (if I'm not mistaken @stompix) in one of the topics discussing crypto cards was also a bit confused about fees - but I'm sure you'll find a solution for that too. Keep up the good work ;)

New Product: PDS Mastercard Prepaid (https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto)

We are happy to announce that a new prepaid card provider has been integrated to our service.

•  Card provider: Prepaid Digital Solutions
•  Maximum balance limit: $1,000
•  Apple Pay & Google Pay supported

https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

There is one part that doesn't sound good and I don't like it, there is a chance of provider asking for KYC verification, so it's not recommended for anyone who want's to avoid that:

What happened to all other cards that were previously available on your website?
Now I can only see VISA prepaid card with 3ds, and this new PDS Mastercard (not counting gif cards).

Hi, we provide card activation code for PDS. But similar to MyPrepaidCenter, it must be activated on provider's website. By the way we haven't faced such KYC issue so far, however we are obligated to provide all informations. Always recommended to test with small amount at first.

We used to have 2 other options; MyPrepaidCenter Mastercard and VISA US gift card. Issuer bank changed their program rules, PDS is a good replacement for MyPrepaidCenter however we are aware of that VISA US gift card is needed. Hopefully it will be added back to our service in following days.

Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto
- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto

I made a suggestion, but I didn't think that you would remove EUR completely - because all that had to be done was to enable the option that whoever buys the card can choose between $ or EUR - of course, all to avoid the confusion mentioned in previous posts. Now we have the "problem" that the card balance is in $, and this makes it difficult to monitor the balance on the card for those who pay in EUR.

If I have $100 left on my card and I want to pay something in that price range, I must first calculate how much it is in EUR because it may happen that the transaction is rejected. In addition, the conversion rate from USD to EUR is constantly changing, and the question is, what is the official exchange rate that we should use?

The base currency of VISA international cards was always "USD". When you bought €100 card, card balance was being converted to USD up on the activation (this is explained on product page). Now we removed that to avoid currency exchange confusions. So actually EUR cards were not solving the problem you mentioned.

Card provider uses VISA's real time exchange rate, they don't charge additional fee for foreign currency payments. But you can calculate -1% less to make sure transaction doesn't get declined.

I am reading the details and terms about this card and it is saying that it only works in the United States.
Does that mean that it can't be used with merchants and websites that are located in Europe and other regions outside US?

What does restroyed mean exactly?

Yes, VISA Gift Card (US) (https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto) product work only in the United States merchants. For other countries, you may consider using VISA International Prepaid Card (https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd).

PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

If someone knows the answer to this:

The website says the card supports 3D secure.

How it's possible if the card issuer does't know my phone number and there is no app. I can't follow the verification protocol

TYVM

edit:


The VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) is also issued by PDS?  :(

This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.

Only PDS Mastercard is issued by Prepaid Digital Solutions.

In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?

You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.

Are you aware of any cases where the auto-3D feature stopped working, preventing a genuine user from using the card until your support checked what's wrong?
I am looking at your international VISA prepaid card. Is this country list up-to-date (https://stealths.notion.site/Supported-Countries-051c36794ac5425bbfaff3875edbd02b)?
The product description says there is no currency conversion fee. Can you share the source you use to convert between USD and other national currencies?

To clarify, we are not the card issuer. We are reselling prepaid cards which are issued by U.S. banks via licensed card issuers. Card issuer uses VISA's exchange rates, I believe you can find it on VISA's website.
We haven't had any issue with 3D security so far, it's sold as "international" so this is why it's enabled. Country list is up-to-date.

The thing is not ideal when it comes to security, but considering that you can buy an unlimited number of cards, then you can choose the amounts on them in relation to whether you want to use them for online purchases where you have to enter the card data, or you will use the card exclusively to add to Google/Apple wallet on your mobile phone and pay through POS devices that way.

I think that the possibilities of abuse are very small and that it all depends on how you store the card information. It is important that the e-mail you will use to receive the card information after payment is secure, because it seems to me that this is one of the ways that someone could get hold of the card information, unless of course you enter it yourself on a phishing site.

1. Both the VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) and the PDS Mastercard Prepaid is showing a Min of $5.00, but a Max of $0.00. Coding error or is the card taken down?

2. Trying to pay for Apple Developer's Program with this. Wonder if there's any known trouble with Apple Store payment (Apple Developer's Program payment link jumps to Apple Store for payment processing).

3. Does the VISA International Prepaid Card's 3DS has associated phone number and address? So that I can match my Apple ID account address & number to it, in case Apple cross checks whether the account address matches the billing address?

Thanks

1. There was a temporary maintenance on VISA international cards, you should be able to purchase now.
2. You can't use it on Apple Store, they don't accept prepaid cards.
3. You can use any address and phone number, no address is linked to the card.

That's a pity. I successfully used PST.net before with Apple and they had no problem accepted small amount of BTC with no KYC. Recently, I tried several times and burnt a bunch of sats only to have it eaten by their KYC process. But their 3DS card was able to pay for Apple Store stuff before... Still looking for a Virtual card provider that can be used with Apple...

As far as I know they are providing virtual cards, not prepaid cards. This is probably the reason you were able to use it on Apple Store.

I think your best option is to look for apple gift cards.
There was several providers (Bitrefill, thebitcoincompany.com) who sold them for bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, but I am not sure they are still offering them.
Just make sure to use matching IP address to avoid getting rejected.

Is there any chance Stealths could provide non-kyc physical cards in future?
There is a demand for products like this.

PS
I just noticed Stealths has been listed on Kycnot.me:
https://kycnot.me/service/stealths

We actually had some meetings with card issuers and it seems like that's possible to have no-KYC physical cards (even with decent ATM withdrawal limits). It's currently unaffordable for us but in the future I hope yes.

Yes, they listed us 1 month ago after several months of waiting.  :)  Better late than never tho.

🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid

Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.

👉🏻  For U.S. customers, we have VISA gift card:
https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

👉🏻  For international customers, we have MPC Mastercard (please note that they don't support 3D):
https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto

We understand that it was most our most preferred product and we are continuously working on finding alternative solutions.

Also, we would like to sincerely thank all our customers who have supported us for the last 6 months.

It was only a matter of time when it would happen, and maybe you yourself contributed to it happening faster, considering that the card limit was increased to even $2000, which obviously attracted someone's attention. However, considering everything that is happening, it is not at all strange that without KYC it will not be possible to buy any virtual card.

Obviously, our growing volume had an impact on this, but the main reason is US government's recent -unfortunate- reaction to no-KYC services.
That's cat & mouse game, they will block we will bring new alternatives. At least, for now, we have motivation to keep this business up.

It's true, it seems that the feds are on some kind of spring offensive against all services that don't ask for KYC and have to do with privacy when it comes to BTC. As far as I can see, there are some other virtual cards that do not have KYC and are available, it seems, only in Europe, but they do not have 3D security, so payment through POS devices is questionable.

Good luck finding some new alternatives ;)

Bad news, and this new regulations are getting more stupid every day.
“The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier it's laws are.” ― Cicero

I am hoping you will find some new alternative that works, but I heard other providers of non-kyc cards are facing similar issues and they had to cancel all their virtual cards.
What's even worse for competition is they even canceled previously issued cards and that really sucks  :P

Which product of yours can be used to pay for Credit Card bill in India? To be precise, the card must be able to spend INR.

Hi,

I think majority of merchants in India require 3D verification, so our cards may not work for your use. But MyPrepaidCenter seems like supporting India, payments on websites that don't enforce 3D may work.

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✨  Hundreds of new gift cards are now available on Stealths

After weeks of internal testing, we just launched our gift cards service in beta. You can choose among hundreds of brands and pay with your favorite cryptocurrency, 35 countries supported at the moment!

▶️  https://stealths.net/gift-cards

💳  New Product: Single-Use Virtual Card (3DS) 🌐

We know you mostly prefer automated solutions, but it's pretty complicated to get no-KYC prepaid card with 3DS nowadays. While working on it, we added this solution temporary for people who want to make big international payments.

Delivery is manual, so please contact us before creating an order!

▶️  https://stealths.net/product/vcc-manual

If I understood correctly from the description, this card works exclusively for online payments - there is no possibility of adding it to any mobile wallet (GooglePay and similar)? The card can serve its purpose, but unlike the Visa international card that used to be without KYC, this one is still quite limited because it is only valid for one day and in addition there is a 2.5% fee for each transaction (max 3).

That's true, it's not a prepaid card like others we have, it's real credit card linked to business bank account so acceptance and limits are way higher. The bank charges 2.5% fee for non-USD payments. International payments with USD currency are free.
I agree terms and fees are not great, but it's useful for some clients who need to make big online payments.

We are still trying to find another solution for better international cards with lower fees.

Why should this card be used only for bigger international payments and not for smaller?
I see that minimum is $50, that is not such a big amount, and maximum that is allowed is $5000.
With strict terms of use there is always a risk of card getting blocked and losing of money, so I would be careful with this one.

Why virtual phone numbers disappeared? Do you plan to return them?

We ask where will you use at before purchase, so if that merchant is restricted we tell you it's not allowed to pay there. If you don't use the card somewhere else, all should be fine. You can use it for small payments too, what I mean is maximum card limit is $5,000 atm and we can increase on request. So, it's the only solution we offer for >$1K payments.

There is a problem with supplier, it's going to be back in a few days. (Edit: Virtual phone numbers are available again.)

Friendly bump! Vouching for Stealths' excellent service. I've used the prepaid Mastercard in ~15 EU countries and it works perfectly. I appreciate the flexibility and speed with which I can spend funds IRL without hassles.

Are you referring to online payment in all these countries? I ask because the card does not officially support 3DS, and in most EU countries POS devices should reject such a transaction. Of course, I assume that the acceptance of cards for physical payment (without 3DS) still depends on the country.

I never tried online payments, as you said 3DS is required in EU most of the time..

Thank you so much for the review, it's great to see our service is useful for you and other members.

3Ds is required for online payments in the Europe, physical POS payment with NFC (Google Pay / Apple Pay) can work regardless of 3D-support. (still some local restrictions apply, so please make sure you try with small amount at first)

@paid2 & @StealthsNet, thanks for the additional explanation regarding payment with this card - in that case it would be a good choice for those who want to use it for physical payment via NFC - and actually the only downside is that even though the card is without KYC in case some problem happens the company issuing it can ask the user for KYC before receiving support. It looks a bit strange at first, but the perfect product is hard to find, isn't it?

MPC is not a great provider, especially compared to old providers we have, however they are the only one issuing international cards at the moment. This is why we added them back after removing a few months ago.

They don't ask KYC for support generally however this happened once so we put a warning, it might be related to the client using extremely fake info (cardholder name) too, but not sure about their procedures exactly.

Added you to the list... if you want, you can link to Bitlist.co on your site in the spirit of "We're on BitList" (as a reliable source of information. In any case, it's up to you.

Hey,
Thank you for adding our service to the list.
A little correction: We have 5% fees (or $5 if amount is smaller than $100), no $30 production cost.

I'll make sure to include link in our website.

10/10 great service.

Did multiple orders directly via support,
they have a very fast response time and everything is straight to the point.

Will come back if I need this service again any time

🔔  Service Update: MPC Mastercard Prepaid

Automated delivery is temporarily unavailable due to maintenance on provider, expected to be resolved in two days. In the meantime, you can purchase cards with manual delivery.

Please provide your contact information so we can notify you when the redeem code is delivered.

✅  Update: Problem has been solved, delivery is automated again.

▶️  https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto

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📊  Graph: Cryptocurrency Usage on stealths.net (August 2023 - August 2024)

✨  Believe or not, it's already been a year since we launched! In this time period, we've grown and learned a lot, huge thanks to everyone who has supported us.

⚡️  As we mostly focus on privacy-related services, Monero stands out as the most used cryptocurrency by our clients. We are pleased with this, and will continue to support Monero!

❗️  We have recently been the target of DDOS attacks, we try to resolve the issue but sometimes you may not access the website via Tor. In such cases, you can message us directly to place an order.

▶️  https://stealths.net (https://stealths.net) (backup domain: stealth.st (http://stealth.st))

I congratulate you on your first successful year and I hope that you will continue to provide good services :)

As for the DDoS attacks, it seems that some people are quite bored lately and attack everything they can think of - but such things are only temporary anyway, I hope you will successfully resist them.

Looks like John McAfee was right after all when he said that monero is the most used cryptocurrency in the world... and I saw several websites always having monero on top along with bitcoin.
Are you accepting Lightning Network payments and is that included in overall stats of 13% for Bitcoin or not?

PS
ShoppinBit July stats: 60% BTC, 36.60 XMR
CoinCards July stats: 28.21% BTC, 23.83 XMR

We don't accept Lightning Network at the moment, even though it's great for quick payments hard to maintain own node or find a reliable provider without too many requirements.

I posted in the Novacard (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5503546) thread today. They offer an excellent service and then I found this thread and you offer what seems to be an identical service. How does your service differ from Novacard?

Furthermore, have your heard of CoinPayCard? In the past they used this forum to make an announcement when they launched a card service but exit-scammed. The same question I asked Novacard: How will you assure forum members you are in the business for the long run and have no nefarious intentions?

Hey,
I'm not familiar with the services you mentioned, but they might be using same/similar card providers. We have multiple prepaid and gift card brands, we don't require any info (even an email address). Maybe these are the differences you ask.

Our website is one year old; you can check the first messages of this thread. Multiple members from Bitcointalk and other communities have already tested and posted reviews about our service. Of course, we recommend everyone test the process with a small amount. For this reason, the minimum amount for most of our products is set as low as $5.

I was asking in general terms what were according to you any differences between you and your competitor but if you had not heard of them before it would be difficult for you make any comment but by having another look at both websites, it seems one of the fundamental differences between Novacard and Stealths is the activation process. Novacard does not require it, customers can start using the card immediately after they receive it whereas Stealths issued cards have to be activated.

Your website states: You need to active card after purchase. Card issuer will ask for email, phone number and address..

Novacard website states: Novacard respects your privacy and does not require verification. You can simply make a payment with your favorite cryptocurrency and receive your card details right after payment confirmation!

Your 5% fee is less than their 7.5% fee therefore automatically appeals to this seeking this type of service but the activation process is something that might be an issue if they do not want to provide an address, a phone number and an email address.

Never heard of a prepaid card that asks you for your phone number and email in order to activate it but maybe that's a requirement for the supplier they are using.

Still not sure why they would need that information though.

We have two different prepaid card brands at the moment:
- VISA Gift Card (US) (https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto): You receive a card management link, no activation or address registration is needed. You can use the card right away after the purchase.
- MPC Mastercard Prepaid (https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto): You receive a card redeem code that needs to be activated on the MyPrepaidCenter website. They ask for the cardholder's name, email, and address; no ID verification is needed for redeeming the card. You don't share this info with us; it's collected by MyPrepaidCenter, which is a big prepaid card issuer.

The activation process varies by card provider; some don't ask for any details, and some require address registration. But at Stealths.NET, we don't require any info for any order; you provide requested details on the card provider's website.

You can view all details about the brand on the product page.

P.S. Just checked the service you mentioned; their terms are very similar to our VISA gift card; likely it's the same provider, but I suggest contacting them to make sure.

It is important to emphasize that these data do not have to be "correct", because if we are talking about MC cards, then you should know that the company that issues them does not check the correctness of the data. Stealths warned that they had one case when the company asked for KYC from the client, but also that it was probably the result of some stupidity that the client did. The data doesn't have to be correct, but you won't write that the owner of the card is Mickey Mouse, right?

In addition, this Nova card works only in the US, while Stealths MasterCard is an international card that you can add to your Google/Apple wallet and pay in all countries that are not on the list of prohibited countries.

Now that is clarified, it makes much more sense. Keeping the MPC Prepaid Mastercard aside, it seems the Visa gift card is almost identical to the Novacard product. It is good to see competition between various companies that are offering similar products.

For the MPC Prepaid Mastercard, if the company does not check the validity of any information then it seems a pointless exercise to enter it to activate the virtual card in the first place, nevertheless it is part of a process that needs to be followed for that particular product. For that reason, I suppose it too makes it a viable option for those that are buying a card for their needs (international or US only).

They only follow the legal procedure, no matter how meaningless it is in the specific case - but considering that the card has a max limit of $1000, it is unlikely that someone will use such methods to "launder" significant amounts of crypto, even if it is possible to buy an unlimited number of cards.

I assume that they still have some kind of checks in case someone decides to abuse their service, and as long as everything looks legal, everyone wins.

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Small-value cards (up to $500) are now issued automatically; you can view transaction history and 3D codes on the card details page. Higher-limit cards can still be purchased manually (https://stealths.net/product/vcc-manual).

👉🏻  Please purchase single-use cards when you are ready to use, it expires after 24 hours and leftover balances may not be refunded.

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What happens if I have to pay something worth $43 but I have $50 on my Stealth card?
I just gave an example, but there would always be some leftover money on card because it's not easy to have exact amount for payment, and smaller amounts won't be accepted.
No refunds is fine, but we should be allowed to spend leftovers for different purchase within 24h expiration period.

As long as you don't abuse the card (free trials, so many small amount payments etc.), we are not really restrictive about that. You can spend $43 somewhere and $7 somewhere else until the card expires.

I would still suggest purchasing a card with exact balance, most websites show the amount on the checkout page.

What is the procedure for obtaining data for such cards in terms of whether the customer should enter the name, surname, address and other data - in other words, should the data from the card match the data of the client in the case of a physical purchase?


This makes sense when you buy something in USD, given that the card was issued in that currency - for those of us who pay in other currencies, there is always the "problem" of converting the exchange rate from USD to another currency in order to achieve the correct purchase amount.

We don't require any info from client for single-use cards, cards details are issued right after purchase (no further activation needed). On the checkout, client can use their own billing details, it doesn't affect card acceptance.

I suspected that it was exactly like that, but it's always good to clarify things so that people can better judge whether buying such a card is right for them or not. Thanks for the explanation, I think it will be useful for others.

Thank you for clarification.
I know it's better to have exact amount for payment on card, but sometimes there are additional charges for tax or item shipping.
Only issue with Single-Use VCC cards is a bit higher 8% fees, or minimum $10, that is a bit higher compared with other cards.

Work this VCC on aliexpress?

Yes, our single-use virtual cards (https://stealths.net/product/vcc-shocard) work on Aliexpress.

This is interesting:

Date Registered: October 04, 2024, 08:22:31 PM
Last Active: October 04, 2024, 08:27:10 PM

The account was created at 8:22PM and was last active 8:27PM when they made their post.

By all intent and purposes it seems as though the account was created specifically to post in this thread and that does not look good for the OP. I suppose they could have asked the question on the Stealths website but somehow stumbled their way here to ask a question after going through the registration process instead.

I don't think it's a big deal. Even though the contact page https://stealths.net/contact only mentions Telegram, email and Session support channels, I think that it should be concerning if there are more accounts that register to ask a quick question.

But since that doesn't seem to be the case here then it's more in like with e.g. users registering to post about casinos.

No thanks, we already use the "bump" function daily, which is available on this section of the forum.  :-*

The timing was extremely strange though, anyway hopefully it will not happen again.

Your periodic bumps are sufficient, I am not stating you were behind it  ;D

Better be careful with adding any virtual crypto cards in aliexpress website.
I heard reports from people with crypto cards that were accepted initially, but payment was not processed later.
However, if Stealths card worked for you can post your feedback here.

I don't see anything strange here, unless you see a conspiracy theory in everything. It seems to me that this account was created to obviously promote the forum that he added to his profile, and believe me he is not the only one who creates a profile, asks one question and disappears.

Besides, why use such cheap tricks if this board has a bump option - it just doesn't make sense.

bump option is effective if it is done by a higher-ranked(active) user with earned merit, i.e. it depends on "bump power". So in the case mentioned above, it is quite useless.

@StealthsNet

Do you still offer crypto-> SEPA transfer service? I can‘t find it on your website any more.
KYC less crypto to SEPA exchange is really missing at the moment. Only small ammounts (less then 500€) to pay bills or topup prepaid cards.

Hello,
We removed that service long time ago, it's unfortunately not possible for now to offer similar service like that.

And I guess that this won't be back any time soon, with MiCA becoming more and more concrete for EU crypto users, I think that SEPA without too many requirements will soon be a distant memory for us.  :-\

Really sad!

In this case, it is more than obvious that there are several very satisfied high-ranking users who regularly bump this topic so that it is always near the top or at least on the first page of this board.

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I just wonder if we will be able to use these virtual cards at all when the European bureaucrats implement all the restrictions they have in mind. As for online payments, I think it will be more difficult to disable such services, but I think they can disable the addition of foreign virtual cards to mobile wallets.

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🌟  Google Pay / Apple Pay supported, 3DS available.
❗️  Works only in the U.S.

It's in beta for now, if you are familiar with the product, you can contact us to buy higher value cards (up to $3,000).

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🔔  Service Update: Problem with auto delivery is solved for MPC Mastercard (https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto) product and minimum amount reduced.

Good news for those in the US, but you seem to be offering fewer options for users in the rest of the world as those single-use Visa cards are also being removed. Of course, it's not easy to find a good provider that works in most countries, but I'm sure you're working on adding new products ;)

Does this means that this new card can only be used for paying something in US, or customer using this card needs to have IP address in US, but they spend it worldwide?
I know that in your terms it is stated that usage of VPN services is not recommended, but there must be similar reward card with 3ds for users outside US.

This card provider doesn't allow to use the card at international stores, it works only if merchant is US-based.

Made yet another trade directly via support. No problem whatsoever, can still recommend this service.

Thank you for your trust again  :)

I have a question, I want to buy something from the US shop that only accepts US Visa/Master cards where billing and shipping addresses have to match each other. I plan to use a company that will receive my parcel in the USA and then ship to my country (MyUS). MyUS generates an American address for me. Is it possible to put this address as a card's address that I'll buy from you? I plan to buy a card from you, put that address and then when I order, billing and shipping addresses will match and I think I'll finally be able to place an order.

Hello,
At the moment we have 2 different products that support AVS (address verification system): Reward Center VISA (https://stealths.net/product/reward-center-visa) and MPC Mastercard (https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto). If merchant is US based, I would recommend trying Reward Center VISA.

Yes, merchant is US based.

On your website there is a disclaimer: Delivery is temporarily manually, it may take up to 24 hours. Make sure that you provide contact info while creating an order. / This is a new product, please make sure you test with small amount at first.

Is it okay to test with $100? I don't want to pay $5 fee two times.

I want to link my daughter's rechargeable card to Apple Pay and top it up with 100-200 USD every month, is this realistic?

This issue has been fixed, it should be delivered automatically if you purchase now.
You can test with any amount for sure, but we won't be able to refund prepaid card balance in the case it doesn't work at your target merchant. This is why it's recommended to test with small amount.

We only have non-reloadable prepaid cards at the moment.

When phone numbers will be back again?

Hello, virtual phone numbers are available but they are activated manually. You can contact us by Telegram or Session App to order a virtual phone number:
https://stealths.net/contact

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Just now ordered a mastercard. Transaction was smooth. Received the card. Nice service.

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Card must be activated on the issuer's website. Redeem code is auto delivered by our system.

🌟  Google Pay / Apple Pay supported, 3DS not supported.
✔️  Works internationally

▶️  https://stealths.net/product/visa-global-prepaid

It's in beta for now, mobile wallet acceptance might be limited in your region. Please try with small amount to make sure it works for you.

Service Update: MPC Mastercard is discontinued by provider, we removed the product from our store.

@StealthsNet, if I'm mistaken, you had a similar card before, only the issuer was different - although I can remember the conditions for card redemption. Regarding the terms and conditions stated on your site :


I tried to see what happens when I access the provider with Tor and I get the following message :


It follows that in general they are not against VPN, although perhaps in the specific case of card redemption they have such an attitude. I assume that, apart from the correct e-mail address, it is not absolutely necessary to enter our real personal data, because the provider will not ask for verification - similar to the case of MPC?

Hi,

Yes, this is a different provider but it's similar to MPC in terms of card redemption and acceptance. They do not require verification on card redemption - just like MPC. As you've experienced, it's not possible to access the website with VPN.

Hey there StealthsNet.
I saw you are offering Virtual Phone Number for one year period, and I was wondering if this phone number can be used for browsing internet and buying GB in data?
I know you are offering eSIM with data plans, but I think that is different product, correct me if I am wrong.

As far as I know, their Virtual Phone Numbers are only used to receive SMS; for data, you'll have to use ESIMs. They are indeed different products.

Hi,
We have two different products: Virtual phone number (https://stealths.net/product/virtual-phone-number) and eSIM data plans (https://stealths.net/esims). Virtual number can be used to receive SMS but data/calls are not available. eSIM plans are data-only, if your phone has eSIM support you can purchase eSIM plan and connect to internet. As @paid2 mentioned, it's not possible to use a single phone number for receiving SMS and data.

OK thanks for answering, that is what I was looking for, one package for internet plus sms that can work for up to 1 year period.
I found few more services offering similar products, so I will compare them with stealths and see what is going to work better for me.

Hello

I would like to know if it is possible to pay in a physical store via NFC if I add the card on a mobile (Apple pay or Google pay).
If yes, is there any limitations known ?

Thank's

@IceCube999, it is theoretically possible if your country is on the list of supported countries in general when it comes to issuing a virtual card - and as far as I know it also depends on how Google/Apple evaluate your region. When it comes to this Visa card that works internationally, the instructions state the following:


So you buy a card in the amount of $5, you try to add it to your mobile wallet, and if the addition is successful, you go to the store and try to buy something up to that amount. In any case, good luck ;)

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✔️  Works internationally
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Service Update: VISA Global Prepaid has been unavailable for last 2 weeks, it's uncertain if product is coming back or not.

As far as I can see, the balance on the card can be max $500, and regarding the top up and voucher code, does this mean that we can buy additional codes through you or we can choose one of the options offered on the card issuer's page? (https://rewarble.com/fees)


Are you sure the 3DS is available? Looking at the official website it says "No 3D Secure verification".

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Is actual correct amount $500 or $5000?
I can see on your website that maximum amount is $500, so there must be some mistake here.
It should be noted that there is 7% hefty fee for purchasing this card, that is a bit more expensive but still less than Single-Use VCC card.

"Anonimy Max Mastercard" of Rewarble has 3DS feature, if you click "Show More" button they also mention it's supported.

Unlike single-use VCC, this is available for smaller amounts and also for IRL payments with Google Pay / Apple Pay.

What's the difference between Reward Center Visa, Visa Gift Card, Single-Use VCC and Visa Global Prepaid? I can't find the information about that on Blog and FAQ pages.
Long story short, I want to buy something from one US shop that only accepts US cards and as I also understood, shipping and billing address should match each other. If I buy gift card, I'll need to buy up t o a hundred because items aren't cheap and I can't test it on the shop with $5 gift card. So, OP, firstly, can you explain to me what are the differences between these 4 types of Visa Cards? And secondly, are you willing to help me? If you are ok, I'll send you a PM and reveal more details with you.

I'm posting here instead of direct message because I'm sure many users will have these questions and answers to them will benefit them.

All prepaid cards are provided by different card issuers, they have different features (Global/USA-only, 3DS unavailable/available). Detailed info is available on product details page.

https://stealths.net/store

If payment amount is higher than $500, we can help with single-use card (difference is that it's not a prepaid card, managed by us). However, for prepaid cards you will need to test yourself.

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How will activation work for people outside the US?
Will the card work on United States websites with VPN using US IP addresses?
How often does Cryptomus AML policy decline transactions?
Is there a problem sending LTC or ETH from eXch?
Why is Cryptomus not accepting Bitcoin? Checkout options are USDT, LTC, TRX, ETH, XMR, BNB, SOL, BCH

There is no activation process for this card, you receive card details directly after purchase.
No, it will not work with VPN. You should not purchase this product if you are not living in the US.
eXch is blocked by most payment processors, including Cryptomus.

I didn't get an answer to the question so I'll repeat it. In other words, if I want to top up an existing card, can I do it through Stealths, or is that option only through using the official website and selecting one of the top up options?

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This is a big drawback, because I looked at the current processor and it's really strange that it doesn't accept BTC, and at the same time it accepts BCH ???

Besides, not accepting coins with eXch is another nonsense - I think you should (if you haven't already) put a warning on your site that the current payment processor you use does not accept BTC and that the coins being sent to payment processor obviously go through a strict AML verification process.

Yes, you can buy multiple codes and combine it to single card or you can purchase additional codes to reload the same card (which we don't recommend as reloads are extra costly on Rewarble).

Despite we are supporting eXch's manifesto, as a small business we do not have any other alternative than using big payment processors due to nature of the business. If you have any suggestion of payment gateway that doesn't check KYC/AML and provides great liquidity for conversion, feel free to share.
I understand it looks easy to host own payment gateway, but if you are a small business sadly that's not doable (not because of costs, but because of liquidity needs).

If you want to buy a virtual card anonymously there is no logic in passing AML by sending identity details to Cryptomus.

I understand that you are not in an easy situation, but I hope you will find a payment processor that is a little less strict and will accept BTC. I assume that the majority of people who use your services do not have bad intentions, but also do not know how to check the AML score of their coins before sending them to your current payment processor.

In this regard, one more question that could interest potential users - what happens if the payment processor rejects the transaction due to a bad AML score - the coins remain "frozen" or are they returned to the user?

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I've sent a message explaining how I'll help. I hope you'll reply if you're interested.

I think your current provider cryptomus is accepting XMR monero for payments and purchasing cards, that is a good way for anyone to make AML checks obsolete.
As for another payment processors I know about AnonPay that is made by Trocador.app, and they accept over 800 cryptos.
There is always option of using self-hosted BTCPayServer for accepting Bitcoin payments with 0% fees.

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Good acceptance in the EU, card issuer charges $0.75 for foreign transactions. This card is better than Rewarble in general as it could be used for longer time and multiple cards can be activated on same profile. Only downside is that minimum card limit is $100.

🌟  Google Pay / Apple Pay supported, 3DS supported
✔️  Works internationally
💲  High limit, up to $4,500

▶️  https://stealths.net/product/mastercard-global-prepaid

⚠️  It's not allowed to use VPN/Tor on card redemption. You are advised to test the new provider with low amount at first.

I don't know what the bank that issues the cards has against my country, which has been a member of the EU for 10+ years, but if nothing else, at least it clearly states which countries are not supported, unlike Rewarble where I had to discover it the hard way.


If the issuer is the same bank as in the case of Rewarble, then you need to check if the 3DS is supported - I got a very clear answer from their customer service that this is not the case.

This card supports 3DS as well as Rewarble's Anonimy Max Mastercard product, I don't know what their customer support told you, but we have widely tested both cards. It doesn't require to enter verification code (SMS or email code) on 3DS, this is why they say 3DS unsupported probably.

This new card looked interesting first especially with 3DS supported, but sadly there is a big list of restricted countries, and with vpn/tor not allowed makes this card unusable for me  :P
https://stealths.notion.site/Mastercard-Global-Prepaid-1dc6dfb81d0980029ba1d2cd1fb130cf

Another thing I noticed is warning info that this is a new provider, with advise to test it with lower amounts at first... but in the same time minimum is $100, not so small.

Stealths cards won't work if you're using VPN or Tor so many ppl can't buy it. Did Stealths add bitcoin pay option for ppl buying cards. I've offered help but Stealths didn't accept.

You offered your service not help, we are not interested as you have no idea what is the problem and how to solve. Why posting on our thread? Promote your business somewhere else please.

Although this requirement is often stated by card issuers, I can confirm that I have often used a VPN with virtual cards and that it worked. I think it really depends on which VPN you use. As for Tor, that's a completely different story and it's not worth playing with.

 3D Secure will be active in future? or not

It isn't worth wasting time on virtual cards if it's roulette with VPN's. Did you use Stealths with your VPN ?

Hello, we have three different products that support 3DS:
https://stealths.net/product/mastercard-global-prepaid (Global)
https://stealths.net/product/rewarble-voucher (Global)
https://stealths.net/product/reward-center-visa (US-only)

Wasn't I clear enough? Why would you call it a waste of time or roulette? If it works well, if not then you're not using a VPN and the matter is quite clear. In addition, there are many services that offer virtual cards for crypto, Stealths is not the only one.

You were clear with out mentioning you didn't use VPN  with Stealths. I called it roulette because if it's working on some VPN it isn't guaranteed. It isn't worth buying virtual cards for use with a VPN if the seller's saying don't use VPN's because the card gets blocked.

It's clear that  with all the new offerihs popping up, eventually we will need a directory for listing eSIMs as well.  :)

I've never had a case where the card was blocked because a VPN was detected - the only thing that can happen to you is that you can't redeem the card with a VPN - but in that case, just turn it off and the problem is solved. Additionally, if you pay with a card that you redeemed with a VPN, then every transaction you make with it should be with a VPN, otherwise any attempt at privacy is completely unsuccessful.

Furthermore, most VPNs are just a fake appearance of hiding online anyway, if you do something bad they will find you without any problems.

Never use free VPNs and always choose only these that position itself on opposition with the government.
Trustworthy VPN list:
https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

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It's kind a silly not to allow people to use Tor or VPN when they are paying for this virtual cards with monero.
It's even worse that we have to provide real address and email address.
If someone is willing to pass or bypass that, than having 3DS support is a good thing.

If buyers aren't allowed to use VPN or Tor it doesn't make stealthsnets cards private. If you've got to give your address & email address there's a privacy problem before you've started using the card.

Thats very right that we should be cautious of using a VPN when using these cards. The probelm usually arises if you connect to a VPN in a certain location, make treanscations and then next time connect to a dofferent region via VPN and make transcations from altogehter different IP / location. Maybe we may get away with one ot two times but always connecting to different region, will make our card flaged as suspiouss.

Also to note that Financial institutions like the banks, card networks, gift card processors are primarily concerned with fraud prevention and it is not necessarily punishing VPN usage. Their system may flags the login or transaction attempt as "high risk" because the IP geolocation doesn't match the user's known country.

If you live in Mexico or South Africa which options do you have if virtual card suppliers say VPN use is banned and you have to give an American postal address? If the rules say you have to make internet purchases from an American IP address you will use a VPN.

If the IP location do not match where you tell them you are living you could get away with it one or two times if you are outside America. It is a risk to pay for virtual cards if they could be blocked at registration because of the VPN. If you break the rules they will not give refunds for banned cards

Ofcourse that is a common situation for the people living in those regions and have limited access to certain financial services. First, it is crucial to understand why these companies have such strict rules. They are usually concerned with compliance that includes the KYC And AML policies. there are laws that are extremely strict in the united states financial institutions.

Maybe those people should look for only legal routes for example in south Africa they have PayFast that offers virtual card.

This eliminates the real benefit of using that virtual card then haha, what a useless experience but there must be a way to use it but it will still be a risk because money can be stuck and they can ask for more documentation and they do have the right to ask for documentation as well because they don't want other kind of transactions you know what I mean.

If they ask for personal details then OP how it is better for merchants looking for privacy? Although as I said there is a solution to every problem or question one don't want to answer, there are ways to change the location, confirm the address and even the number but is it worth the risk to use for precious money? I don't think so.

They are not privacy cards if it eliminates any benefit when they ask for private info to activate cards. Is it private if you must give American addresses and phone numbers to activate the service or if you are not permitted to use a VPN service?

We make the same point that a card service like this one if requires us to hand over our personal information like address, phone number or even stops us from using any VPN or Tor browser, then it is not a privacy card but they are advertising it as one.

At this stage, with the restrictions, they are nothing but a standard fintech product. For full privacy, we need to rely on decentralized or P2P solutions rather than on services like this. Let's see what the OP has to say on this.

When will there be a swype.cards restock?