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Crypto gambling website representatives: please DM so that I can send you my CV. I am only responding to respected crypto gambling representatives here. I have many remarkable academic accomplishments, and looking to make a deal in exchange for my provably fair system.

Depending on the size and the reputation of your casino, I won’t ask for escrow and you’ll get to see my system before any payment is made. This is what I have to offer:
I have a unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

Presently, average crypto users interested in playing provably fair games are required to navigate through approximately four pages of information https://stake.com/provably-fair/overview, possess a deep understanding of coding, and dedicate substantial effort to comprehending and validating the fairness of results. My proposed approach addresses these challenges and offers, as well, the following advantages:

- Equally robust provably fair gameplay, ensuring the impossibility of cheating and enabling verification, with no trust required.
-The explanations provided to players are presented in a half-page format, yet deliver the same value as the current four-page requirement.

Other people who have useful comments might do so, but please refrain from trying to know how I get to implement the provably fair games this way because I am not saying anything nor giving any hints.
Stories about people who passed through similar situations as mine are appreciated. Thank you!

Edit 26/08/23: It is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below.

Edited on 25/10/2023: I am only looking to make a deal for my system. I have previously stated that prior I should be hired as an advisor but I now think that’s irrelevant for the service I can offer.

I think you should give this pitch to your employer and not here. Not want to ask you any hints but you should have provide proofs of your claim so it would have a good point for discussion. Well, I guess it's nice to know who is this forum have the same situation as you and know the details.

Things might seem great in theory, but when they meet the real world, they often fall flat on their face. How can you be sure your system outshines the current one? Have you had a reliable third party give it the thumbs-up? Trusting only your own judgment can come off as quite arrogant, and, honestly, it often misses the mark.

And by the way, if you're banking on big gambling operators reaching out to you just because of this pitch, you're in for a surprise. That's not likely to happen.

Your can't be sure to raise shoulder high yet. Is that your work you did on stake or what?

Moreover I think what you are providing is service so you can move it to the service board, I believe you know how to navigate there.

Allow me to make a couple of suggestions:
you must be the one to contact the companies and ask if they may be interested in your profile.
Create a profile LinkedIn and get in touch with them.
Ask youself... if they really can be interested in a solution of this kind (they have an advantage?)
better... why not create this kind service (if it could be possible?) and offer it?

^Such a good suggestion that OP must pay attention to it.
Creating a professional LinkedIn profile can enhance your credibility and provide a platform for networking with potential stakeholders in the industry. Because for me when approaching companies, emphasize the advantages your proposed solution brings to the table. Demonstrating how your approach can offer them a competitive edge or solve existing challenges will get their interest.
So good luck to you OP.

provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. They basically speak for themselves even lol. While I think your idea is great and could see some use in the future once gambling becomes larger, I don't think the problem of "cheating" or whatever is a large-scale problem really. After all it's already randomized as it could get. Plus you could basically have it verify its validity. I think it all boils down on "fixing what doesn't need to be fixed". Provably fair is great as it is so I don't think this improvement is needed. Although with your skills, you're definitely going to come up with an awesome idea with real-life application that people will ponder upon for years to come. Keep at it brother.

For the first paragraph, as I said earlier, it is a simple process, and yes I am sure. Arrogant or not, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is a challenge though since revealing it would be end of story for my role in this. It’s fair I get a slice of the pie.

For the second part, you might be right. I would be so pissed off though. I won’t pretend to be a business analyst expert, but honestly this could be huge, easy marketing. It could also open doors for getting licenses in landbased casinos who could cut their costs tremendously by laying off croupiers and extending their opening hours. The country licensors will give the license easier if the process is easier as well…

Thank you for the suggestion. In my profession in the country where I am, it is very uncommon to have a linked In profile. You just send a letter and your CV and you’re hired. If things really can’t go forward from here I will be considering this option though.

So, you believe that you've come up with a system that significantly simplifies the provably fair mechanism and that nobody else has thought of it so far. That's certainly possible. But it's also possible that, due to your lack of knowledge and expertise, you don't see the flaw in your system, and that's why nobody is using it. Cryptography is essential, and there's no alternative to it.

It's a tough call whether you're onto something big or just missing a beat.

There is no solution that can beat the game system owned by a gambling site unless they themselves manage to give in. Of the 1,000 players, 2 of them are arranged to be given a win so that it seems that the site is suitable to be used as a place to gamble.
I'm tired of all that guys.
Your role is similar to that of an admin/operator of a gambling company that is doing a promotion.

Those who have worked as an operator in a gambling company will laugh reading my post.
I also really agree with what decodx said above that everything looks great in theory, but it will collapse when it is in reality.

I was intrigued by reading your post, the provably fair system actually requires basic skills in order to be understood and/or verified by the individual user, so average player usually relies on third-party verifications .... and then declares that everything is rigged when stumbles upon an uunlucky streak.
If the system you implemented really breaks down this knowledge barrier it would really bring a great benefit to gambling industry : have you already tried and tested it extensively?
Also if you fear someone might steal your idea have you considered registering the patent?

Yes, I agree with that, sometimes what is in theory does not match the reality. This can happen because sometimes everything just happens and it is beyond our expectations.

But we will never know about the truth of the theory we learn, if we never put it into practice. And we cannot suggest or offer a theory that is not yet clear. if only according to other people, I can also be like that.

and I also want to add a question. Has the OP practiced the theory you learned to find out the truth ..?

This even makes me more excited if you think this is something big.

To answer some questions, I am ready to pitch the CEO, and he’ll play the provably fair game and see for himself. My best bet is to be hired as an advisor, reveal my idea with some legal protection, and get some extra fee on the revenue generated after it is implemented. No doubt it is going to be implemented as it is much simpler to understand by the player and gives him more confidence he’s playing fair games.

As I mentioned in the OP edit, it is so hard to get to know legitimate emails where I can send my CV and a letter. If you know any, please post them below. The only one I got is for the development company of Stake, that I sent my CV with the letter on a few days ago with no answer.

Leaving aside the part about whether your service is better than the service currently used in casinos, your form of advertising or drawing attention may not be very useful, because many casino representatives do not enter this forum and when they do they keep posting in their ann thread or else they post in the scam accusation section when there is a scam accusation against them, so in my opinion something you could do would be for you to get in touch with these new casinos and even the casinos that are in this forum and operating recently or in the last 2 or 3 years

if you can get a deal done with any casino then you could ask the casino rep to post a review on this thread and also leave feedback on your thread and if possible if they could leave feedback on your forum account that would be appreciated obviously nothing can be forced. in my opinion this would be a good way to attract more other good casinos that are in this forum and your service would already be well known and all casinos would not hesitate to contact you

something I kept asking myself was the following: suppose you get in touch with some casino and that casino asks you to show your service, so you show the casino and they spend your service, they reach some agreement, how can you be sure that the casino Won't you take a guy who knows coding and copy your idea and then stop making a deal because the casino is selling your idea to other casinos?

Thank you for the earlier advice, I will be contacting them (if I can since I am a newbie).

To answer the question: first is to get hired as an advisor with a fixed term contract. If someone thinks my qualifications aren’t good enough for that then it’s end of story with that casino. Second I will consult legal professionals for this matter. It’s a challenge, but I can imagine that once my idea is revealed, any changes to their provably fair games with a consequent increase in revenue must be paid a royalty fee to me. They shouldn’t have a way around it. It’s something to be carefully worked out with legal professionals.

Now if they pass on the idea to another casino that’s a tough question to address, but actually an intelligent question. In general, casino owners are different, and are competing with each other. On the other hand, a big enough casino would never do such a thing with affiliates. They’d rather profit from their biggest operator if they have to choose between small and big ones (if they have many casinos)

This could be a great service that you can offer to the casinos, I'm thinking about what process you are going to do so you can be sure that you are safe from any harassments from the casinos. Taking a great team to handle this is also ok, just make sure you understand the terms and also have your own terms to limit the casino and you can avoid them from selling your idea or work to other casinos without your approval, this term can serve as your protection.

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I haven’t received any messages up until now :(

Are you sure of this you're saying at all? I don't think there's nothing being impossible to achieve when there's a target aimed at us for an attack, we should be the one that shouldn't allow any chances of being attacked by anyone on wat we have built, how much ore of the security measures are we taking to ensure safety than just mere vain saying.


Do we actually needs much of explanation than taking steps of action or am i the one thinking otherwise, maybe OP should create ANN thread for these under service discussion for his intending clients.

I have gone through the whole thread and I really think that other members of the forum have guided you very well about the matter. I would like to say something that's different and maybe helpful for you. I don't think that any of those well known casinos will be willing to sign a legal contract with you because they're already okay with their version of the provably fair system and they don't want to spend any more money to someone else's system.

Instead of pitching those casinos I recommend you to launch your own casino if you have the budget for that. If you can create your own casino then you don't need to ask others to test or implement your version of provably fair because you can implement that in your own casino games without someone else's permission and you may get appreciation from the gamblers if they found your version better and easily comprehensible. Other casinos may not pay you well for that system that you are giving them and that's why it's way better to own a casino yourself and implement the system in your own casino. That way you may earn better revenue from your research and others may get license from you if they want to implement it in their casinos.

Thank you for your contribution. I thought about it extensively and it would be a complicated thing for me to open my own casino. There would also be a risk, if I get just moderate success, of others implementing my idea and putting me out of business. They don’t have to get license from me, since this is not an invention, it’s just a way of doing things. Same like when you can’t patent a physics rule that others might want to use let’s say to make car motors.

How much are they going to pay for an advisor…. Not that much. And the royalty fee I get would only be from the extra revenue generated from the provably fair games, that is if there was a statistical significant increase in revenue for those games.

Provably fair games are made so that the player can verify them for himself but actually it’s very complicated to do so for the time being. I can hardly imagine an executive looking at my CV and what I claim to offer and not be interested to say the least. It’s just that nobody of power has taken the time to read through my message. I’ve applied to the development company of Stake and to BC.Game with no response. I don’t even know if they read the application.

Yeahhhh, this might actually be a very good resolution for every gambler that would wanna stick to it...i sure hope this is some development that would solve the said problems...
The big question that remains unanswered is - how's the effectiveness of the said site??... Will it suffer negligence for the very fact that it's not gonna be adopted soon by everyone??... P/s: The fate of this innovation would depend on certain considerations - one of such is if it doesn't limit the influx of funds to other casinos.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Why am I not surprised? I believe your entire approach to this is wrong , and you're simply wasting your time. My guess is that casino owners won't bother contacting you since they have more pressing matters. If you genuinely believe you've come up with a valuable idea that could be beneficial for casino operators, the responsibility lies with you to demonstrate its worth first. Only then should you seek a buyer or an employer who might be interested in hiring you.

Hello,

I work as an independent Provably Fair auditor for the Provably Fair Foundation. I'm interested to hear the details of your new system (under strict NDA if you insist), to validate the claims that your system is as revolutionary as you say it is. I have seen many proposed systems in the past, yet most have a fatal flaw of some kind. Truthfully, I find it hard to believe that this system will live up to the expectations of a Provably Fair system, but please PM or email me if you believe it does so I can arrange some form of an audit.

Cheers.

Hey there,
I am only interested to work with casinos. NDA is also very fragile, and I wouldn’t even reveal my idea to the casino under NDA. They could pass it on to a friend business and the other business would say “we discovered it”. It would be a believable story since, as I said earlier, it is a simple process. I would only reveal my process after getting hired as an advisor and after signing a very solid royalty fee contract that binds the casino for any change in their provably fair system that could be related to my idea. Now if they don’t want to implement it (which I know isn’t possible), I would only continue giving my services as an advisor.

This is the only way for the time being. If this doesn’t work, I’ll have to figure out another way. But I am as sure as I can verify Stake games on my JavaScript program that my system is equally provably fair. It’s either provably fair or not. No flaws are allowed of course.

To be honest, you’re also making me even more excited about this. You say you hardly believe this could live up to the expectations. It means you, as a professional in this domain, think the expectations are high. It means my system truly has some potential as I think it is. Because I know the expectations are met in every sense of what I said.

Yes, it is a cut-throat business in the gambling industry and to protect your "idea" is crucial. I shared some of my ideas with some casinos a while ago and heard nothing from them for a few months and then one day, I saw them implementing those ideas as their own. So, I confronted them and they merely said I have no intellectual property rights on ideas that they also had.  ::)

In any way.... targeting the CEO or marketing team might be the wrong angle of approach, because most of them are not technically inclined.... you have to speak to the developer team and the problem with that is.... once you reveal your "idea" ..they will claim it and they will implement it to get credit from their bosses.  ::) ::)   (Do everything in writing and record your conversations) 

I’ve sent an email to the crypto gambling foundation (admin@cryptogambling.org) their website: https://cryptogambling.org/ but the email address is obsolete…. So I contacted them through Facebook that I might get a working email address.

Let's just assumed that this may work for you only OP and we cannot concluded that it's also applicable to everyone the same way, remember that gambling challenges are in batches and also in phases and hich means they cannot be completely solved neither will they be completely avoided, the more we are into gambling the more we continue to gain diverse experience in using any gambling platform and we see new things to learn from aside the onee we are used to, if there's indeed a provable fair game in gambling then i think everyone would have set a target on that and no one will have a reason for losing their bets while gambling, but fortunately enough everything comes under risk, we are all trying our own best to make the fun out of it either winning or loosing.

I don't think that a simple thread is enough to make the representatives of the most respected and reputable casino platforms approach you to demand your CV so that they can hire you, it's not a requirement for them to get what you think is very useful for them since their platforms are still working pretty well with the original system that they have and have always had, if you think this can benefit them further, it is you who need to pitch your proposal to them.

The best way for you must be to reach them either through their email or what other means they have for contacting that you can find from their website and send your CV along with your pitch there so that they can approach you if they feel that they should give it a try or at least get a demo of the system.

I don't know if this has been said before, but honestly, I think what you would have done is contact the casinos directly, find out those of them that have open positions, and leave your CV with them, this way, you have a better chance at finding interested casinos that might just want to check out your skills..
This comment of mine is only relevant if I understand what you mean correctly ..

Another suggestion is, consider building your own casino, and with your skills, build your own probably fair games, though , this will take a lot of time and money, but then, I think it's still something good to consider ..

Anyways, I wish all the best of luck in finding a casino that will be interested in having you on their team.

I'm interested to know whether your new system actually changes the client and server seed dynamic, or whether it is a JavaScript verifier for current provably fair implementations? If the system is changing the actual seeding steps, you must make sure your system actually follows Provably Fair regulations. If you do not wish to reveal your idea even under an NDA, would you be willing to email me so I can clarify a few more things about your system to determine whether it is provably fair as you say. The current client and server seed system is, from a technical standpoint, very solid and not in need of a change. If your idea is a JavaScript verifier for currently in-use systems, that is a different matter entirely.

Thank you everyone for your participation and for those who wished me good luck.

@CrazyMMG, I am 100% certain of my system and I don’t need to reveal any more details to be sure. I would be betting all of my advisor position salary for all the duration of the contract with the casino + some of my own money on a single baccarat round, with my system implemented, and if they can cheat me out of it, let them keep it. And I’m not joking.

I agree the current system from a technical point of view is solid, but if very few people can actually use it as it is the case today, and with substantial effort to do so, its actual use case is weak. My system is as much as provably fair.

OK. Good luck with your endeavors, I will be happy to audit the system when/if a casino implements it.

Ok thank you anyway for your participation in this thread I appreciate it.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.

They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

I do agree, slots is one of the worst if not the worst games that we should play. Me too, fall for this trick, so I just played slots for fun and not put a lot of money on it because the odds for me to win are extremely slim.

Regarding your product though, it's all about how you pitch it to casinos. Why not just start to look at their official twitter account and reach for them though? At least in that case, you can control and not just wait for them to read your post here, just saying.

No crypto casino owner is going to hire you.
Why don't you create your own crypto casino, where you could impose your "revolutionary" probably fair verification system(or whatever you call it)?
I'm sure that you will stand out of the competition, by providing easier to understand(and to verify) explanation of the "probably fair" concept.
Creating a crypto casino isn't that expensive. Just get a domain and hosting, buy a casino template and install the games(by getting a gambling game provider). You will have to spend money on advertising as well.

Since he has written about it in this forum thread, I would think contacting the casino reps that are on this forum, at least send a DM to them to submit on their platform, not sure about contacting him via twitter, since he has written nothing in this thread about the product and his thoughts so it's best to DM and give this thread to the casino teams that are active on this forum, at least the newly developing casinos, because for large casinos it will be difficult

If I'm not mistaken, there are lots of new casinos coming to this forum, so try starting from a small casino first and starting from there, it will be easier to hone your skills, at least it will help build the casino from small until it can become big, because if you offer it to a casino that is already big, of course it would be impossible to accept this kind of offer.

You’re not encouraging:(

The competition will quickly implement the system, and the advantage of my gambling website, if I can create any, will rapidly fade away, while it’s still in the very beginning. While as for a big casino, a substantial advantage can be gained by implementing it first, and they’ll know who to market it for online much better than I do. The system can also be applied to poker, the ring game.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.

Most casinos are not honest, and do cheat, and this doesn't effect their reputation because it is either selective, or the cheating is not provable, or both. I respect your persistence and wish you the best of luck despite my opinion :)

Slot providers are often in a bind between delivering quality and ensuring profitability. Casinos are profit-driven entities, of course, they don't care about fairness or quality as much as their bottom line. Though, If every casino thought this way, wouldn't they all have the same product? Think about it. How boring. Your idea that casinos won't opt for fairness is, to put it mildly, naive. Think back to land-based casinos that faced immense criticism and regulations. They adapted, and they thrived. Why? Because the gambling evolves. That's a fact

The idea of creating one's own casino is not novel. The gamble (pun unintended) here is not in the creation but in the sustained operation. You do understand the intricacies of licenses, jurisdictions, and compliance, right? However, with "the right team"? Damn, if only it were so simple. The right team is just one cog in the vast machinery of casino operation. But, I digress. If the product is superior, why pitch to casinos at all? Directly target the consumers. Let them decide

I'm not very into coding and I understand the dilemma of wanting to put your system to good use but without revealing it in advance to prevent it from being "stolen".
Is there the technical possibility that you could use it to set up a third-party independent provably fair verification service?

There is no need to audit it, it’s adding more risk for not that much reward. Let’s say it is not really what I’m saying, the casino hiring me will lose nothing at all, including my advisor payroll, since I said I am willing to sign a contract to bet all of my payroll on baccarat with my system + some of my own money, and let their developers cheat me and congratulations to them.

Of course, I know that my system works and is provably fair. It is a bit frustrating though at this point that nobody seems to care. Either they’re not taking me seriously or not even reading my application.

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I hope the right person hasn’t read this yet. You can’t ignore such an offer…

Hi OP, I didn't read through pages other tha OP, in the spirit of your concern that 4 pages is too long, rather to read half a page of explanation.

My suggestion is this. Instead, why not share your short explanation of current crypto provably fair on OP as a community service?

As in. If you're an expert then you can easily explain provably fair to a newbie using stake.

A good academic can do this AND this proves you really know how to simplify.

If it's good, people merit, gamblers praise it, then you get attention from the reps that you want.

Now, you're trying to attract them by saying who you are but got no proof you actually know something :)

I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.

I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.

My thoughts on your question:
1. All crypto-casinos belong to real legal entities/companies that have official licenses to engage in the gambling business. Most of them are licensed by the Curaçao Gaming Control Board. For example, BetFury - owner Universe B Games B.V., Duelbits - owner Liquid Gaming N.V., Stakes - owner Medium Rare N.V. All crypto casinos have a support email.
2. Persons representing the interests of crypto casinos on the Internet (BTT and social networks) are actually SMM. Persons who present/advertise the project and do not make decisions. Every company has corporate ethics and requirements for communication with clients. Therefore, it is unlikely that anyone will write to you first. Don't forget about the scam - “Admins will never DM first!”
With that said, I believe that you should contact the support team of any of the crypto casinos and offer your services, clearly stating the concept of your offer with your contact details.
P.S. I see that you had a positive experience with Duelbits. Why don't you want to offer them your services?

If OP had an epiphany and came up with some unique method for checking provable honesty, then it should first be published in academic and scientific publications that have a mathematical or unitary cryptographic direction.  And at the same time, of course, retaining th authorship and rights to this discovery.  These actions, in the case of a truly ingenious nature of the invention of the algorithm, should be discussed and confirmed in the scientific community of specialists.  Further development of the idea is only possible if the scientific community truly confirms its uniqueness and accuracy.  And also the possibility of correct use in casino practice, as an algorithm for confirming provable honesty.  
I consider all other actions of OP to promote his invention in such a primitive way to be somehow naive and too simple.  

Therefore, I think no self-respecting casino would be interested in an invention that is advertised by OP in this way.

Dude go and sign up on LinkedIN. This is the wrong place to look for employers. You might have an advantage in finding cryptocurrency gambling casino employers but I think there is absolutely no need to go that specific and go the extra mile in hope of finding someone like that. There are even gambling and cryptocurrency groups on Linkedin. But you will find those groups to be more professional and career oriented than anything you could possibly find here, on the forum.

Good luck to you!

The casino industry is built upon this nature. Operations are also clandestine. It is highly unlikely that a casino would not take the opportunity to cheat or be dishonest if they thought they would get away with it. We see this every day, as new complaints are made about new casinos.

Also, majority of the casinos here are based in Curacao.



I can't say I agree with you that they'd all be the same product. That's what innovation is for.

No, it is not novel to start a casino business. It is not what you are making it out to be either, in the case of an online casino. All it takes is a skilled and well-capitalized team to conquer the "intricacies" that you stated. Also remember that the industry is built on money, just remember that before you talk so much about compliance (bribe-able), licenses (buy-able) and jurisdictions (probably bought in most regions casinos are registered).

On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.


That's why I said they don't trust you. Your applications and statements mean nothing if you don't back them up with evidence and proof of concept. Having an academic background doesn't automatically guarantee honesty or expertise in a particular field.

When in general OP advertises her academic education not in some serious resume, but simply writes in a post in this topic, then the very fact of such a presentation of information about herself should cause some distrust on the part of those business leaders (in this case, those who  is responsible for the selection of employees for casinos), who are looking for specialists in specific areas and with certain specific competencies. 
The fact that OP decided to open this topic in such a strange way tells us that many here may have suspicions of some kind of wrong course of action on his part. 
It is especially worth considering that we are talking about a very delicate and often quite secret area of ​​organizing the work of the business itself, built on gambling.

So you’re not a business owner I understand  ;D

This topic has led someone to direct message me some valuable contact information with some valuable advice. I personally didn’t waste my time. As for those asking that I publish my CV here they’re the ones wasting their time lol.

Exactly, that's correct. I used to be, but I've since passed the torch to my successors. That's why now I have the freedom to spend my free time however I please.


Good for you! Can we finally expect to see your provably fair implementation in action soon?

In fact, no one is asking you to publish your resume here in this topic or anywhere else on our forum, simply because the forum dedicated to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies obviously maintains the anonymity of users.  Only those who wish can, of course, introduce themselves and lose this very anonymity. 

When I wrote about the resume, I meant that no one interested would ever talk to an anonymous developer on such an important isssue.  In addition, you need confirmation of the correct operation of the algorithm you came up with.  And this cannot be done without the involvement of specific authoritative specialists.  And these should be specialists, experts working in the scientific community.  Therefore, without publication in a scientific journal, all discussions about a brilliant discovery are a waste of time.

OP is probably bluffing because if OP really found a way top solve the complexity, OP would share it and OP wouldn't fear others appropriating the solution because OP has more understanding and the people that would've answered on OP's thread would know that the solution originated but no, OP decides to hide it and go directly to casinos which I believe is a behavior of someone who has found a solution.

This is very simple to understand, if he thinks he has the best solution at hand, then it's important to know that he would first be the beneficiary to that opportunity before taking it to the public involving others, also something like this can have enough evidence to prove it, while in gambling, it is very important that we should know we all have our personal responsibility in making new discovery about gambling that will favour our experience and others along, if OP is really true about all he had said, then i believe it will work out some things on his behalf.

Up.
This post is bearing some fruits which is beautiful to see. I am at the stage where I am exploring my options. Casino executives, please don’t hesitate to contact me! Let’s make it in a way that players who are not software developers can finally have the certainty they are not being cheated!

They don’t need to install any additional software and they can verify the results whether they are using Windows, Mac or Linux. No blockchain block hashes are needed and the process is not slowed down. I can’t think but the casino who will implement this will make a killing. There is no doubt in my mind the currently complex way of doing provably fair will become for the most part obsolete.

By default, loads of players don't consider the algo that powers any game, they only start considering that when they suspect something fishy with the winning system, maybe if a particular strategy always gets the reward or a particular region, globally.

Only an insignificant percentage of players consider the algo behind these games they play as they are wired to respond to logical reasoning than the regular joe does.

Disagree on this, dont' know if I am an exception but I've always thought I belong to the average gambler Joe but thefirst thing I check, after discovering its existence thanks to this forum, before playing a game is if it's a provably fair one. I almost only play games where such systems are implemented because I feel assured in this way.
 

I also think that quite a few players are interested in testing the provably fair algorithm.  But, of course, such actions are done by already quite experienced players and those people who are interested in how the games in this casino generally work and how it works.  Novice players may not even know about the existence of this algorithm. 

OP here above claims that he invented a unique method and all existing ones are outdated and they are complex and cumbersome.  This is a serious statement, and it certainly requires proof.  Moreover, such evidence that even experts in matters of casino activities would agree with this evidence.

Players accusing casino of « scam » when they lose, especially in the online world, while true in a few cases, is mostly a misconception. That might still hurt honest online casinos though to profit landbased ones. With my system, it’s going to become much harder from now on to say « scam, scam »

This offer is still ongoing and I am always available to be contacted. If you think you can make a deal with me please contact.

I have edited my original post, because I am no longer asking to be an advisor. I think that’s not relevant for the service I can offer.

Here many have already written to you that just such a topic opened on our forum can hardly help you somehow promote your invention, even if it really has some value and can be described as innovative.  In my opinion, it would be more correct to try directly contacting the support of different casinos and informing the employees about your offer.  According to statistics, one out of thirty or forty such requests may be of direct interest to those casino managers who actually make decisions on the development of their business. 

Have you made such requests?

Yes I have. But this forum post was of help as well. At least as of now I can say I was able to defend my case in front of some very fine names in the industry, because of this post. I was ignored in some cases, I had interesting conversations in others, but I can say I am doing my best.

Not sure but since OP has opened this topic more than two months ago and, apparently, he has contacted some casinos privately and no one, till this date, has expressed their interest in adopting or financing his project says much.
OP, if you have a revolutionary idea or a revolutionary formula then there are many ways to protect it against intellectual theft, if this is what you are worried about. No one is going to make a deal with you before you show them what you have to offer. Just think about it.

I’ve consulted many lawyers: systems and ideas cannot be protected. I’ll get the credit for it, but they wouldn’t need my permission to implement it. But I am not looking to take credit, I am looking to sell it. They need to make some commitment before I get to reveal it, such as making payment if they want to use it. If not, I’ll be upset, but maybe also it’s God’s will and something not for my own good. I am a humble person in general and I am happy living a humble life. Riches would be an extra gift.

I don't know how true or real this could be, but can OP really be a problem ever in this regard, solving the problems of provable games, if this have been ever solved completely then we may not have any reason of having discussions about gambling or other forms of games because all their challenges would have been dealt with already, but things aren't as we thought they were, but we all try out best to manage gambling to our own personal satisfaction despite the complexity.

The issue of copyright protection for even a brilliant inventor is quite important.  And maintaining the opportunity to receive the royalties and remunerations due to him for this invention. 
If earlier, about 50 years ago, patent law was still in force and copyright protection was at a good level.  And now, it seems to me, there are no effective methods left for protecting copyright because in the courts it is impossible to prove authorship if, for example, someone stole an invention and slightly changed it.  For example, if someone who stole an invention slightly changed the program code.  This is truly an insoluble problem if the invention begins to be used by some kind of corporation, and there is simply no point in suing it if you do not have a million dollars for possible legal costs.  Anyone understands that you can run into serious trouble. 
Only guaranteed and really good option to get something significant from your invention is to try to do something like what Satoshi Nakamoto did with the invention of BTC.

This has some sense. In addition, my innovation is not even to be considered an invention, it’s like a math algorithm. It can’t be patented. Although good news is it would be clear if the casino has implemented it or not, so I would sue them if they don’t pay what we agreed upon in advance.

Now some casino personalities think I have to share my innovation and then “we’ll see later” how am I going to be rewarded. Not happening. If that means this would never be shared, or someone else from their own teams discovers it by himself, let it be, no problem.

If you really invented some unique algorithm for checking provable fairness, then first of all you should try to find out whether you have repeated the discovery of some mathematician that was made earlier and perhaps somehow patented or described in some scientific matthematical publication  in printed or electronic form.  It may well be that your discovery, one of the brilliant mathematicians “discovered this invention” much earlier than you.  But if you were the first to make such a discovery, then you need to somehow indicate that you are the author of the invention.  And to do this, you still need to not offer casino representatives the use of an unfamiliar algorithm, the 100% reliability of which has not been proven, but perhaps, even for a small fee, you should simply publish a short article about this algorithm in a specialized scientific publication.  Only after this can you contact different casinos with your proposal to implement the algorithm, first for trial operation.  So I believe that this is the correct course of action for the inventor for his unique invention. 
Only in this way will it be possible to defend it in court in case of theft and unauthorized use in violation of copyright.

As I have said before, unfortunately that is not possible, because this does not fall under the category of “invention” and so cannot be patented as such. If I were to publish it in a scientific journal I can, but then I would only get “the credit” for it, and nobody would need my permission to use it (I asked many lawyers).
But I am not looking to “get credit”, I am looking to sell my system. No prepayment is required, but I need to set a price for my system so previous agreements should be made before sharing my paper (I’ve written my paper). The payment would take place only if the casino wants to implement my system.

My offer is still available, please do not hesitate to contact me and let’s make a deal!! I truly believe the casino who will implement this will have a big advantage.

Our own satisfaction tend to be our ultimate goal and also becomes our biggest flex, knowing confidently you can deal with any problem. We all have one or two challenges that we're facing and some keep it to themselves while others believed in sharing the problems they're facing in the system, which later becomes easy to comprehend and also acquainted with the system. We discussed every realistic circumstances here, we deal with challenges and share problems together for the purpose to solved them without encountering any hinder actions.

It is clear that you assume that the algorithm you have created is some kind of valuable invention and you want to receive money for it, which can be called royalties.  This desire is understandable and fair and there is no point in criticizing you for this desire, much less reproaching you. 

However, even if you find some casino where its managers want to try using your algorithm, and you provide them with your invention, there is still the option that, having tried to use the algorithm, they will then tell you that your invention is not suitable and can  maybe they will just pay you a little money “for the presentation”.  And then they will tell you that they are not interested in the algorithm.  But in fact, this casino will decide to secretly implement it and you will not know about it.  I understand that this is theft, but this also happens.  And the likelihood of such a development of events is high since you do not have any serious legal protection.  And from such a case you can no longer insure yourself. 

So in your situation, I don’t understand how you can really make a lot of money from such an invention.

You are one of the few here who make comments that make sense.

It is correct that I can’t have serious legal protection, UNLESS, a PREVIOUS agreement takes place. So a lengthy and detailed agreement takes place, signed by both parties, about what happens IF the casino were to decide to use my system, and what happens if casino says it does not want to use it but still uses it.

The only point where you’re off, is that it wouldn’t be possible for them to use it without my knowledge, because it’s either on their website or it’s not. I can say I am lucky that the question of whether my system is being used could be easily answered by “yes” or “no” for any person with good intentions.

If I were the authorized casino managers, I would not sign some kind of big agreement that if your invention is accepted, then they are obliged to pay something in large amounts.  This is too risky if the algorithm is implemented and then, after some time, it turns out that it does not work correctly or has errors.  In this second big agreement, I see a very big problem for you. 
Do you think you can persuade at least one casino to sign such an agreement with serious financial obligations? 
Have you had any success in finding such a casino?

Anything about gambling complexity cannot be solved once and for all, this is why i don't believe any problem related to provably games cannot be completely solved, maybe we should only be careful in other not to get some certain attractions from those that wishes to invite us to their platforms in the name of helping through solving all provably games, gambling is beyond what we just might have seen appearing, we need more of it to work on and the casinos can't vouch a complete assurance of not having challenges in using them.

I don't even believe in probably fair games because there will still be some atom of unfair practice of such games. Probably fair games are not really much and they can be compromised anytime after when it is discovered that gamblers are now attracted to such kind of games. It is better for us to be wise and scrutinize our decisions and the way we bet on probably fair games so that we don't keep making losing thinking it's all our fault without knowing that the entire game had been compromised.

I do also believe but i dont really make this as a big issue so that my mind wont really be troubling and boggling on the time that i do play specially on games which are house controlled or type.

If they are really that 100% fair then there would really be no line such as "HOUSE DO ALWAYS WIN IN THE END" kind of say. Therefore, it would really be better and wise that you shouldn't really that make yourself that too mindful about those small details and probabilities so that you wont really be making yourself that get stressed out.
Fair games could be called in to those legit sites but not really 100% as early as i have said.

Complexity? There's no way on knowing it yet everything is really written in codes, not unless if you are really that dealing with those
strategic games.

The system is either provably fair or it’s not. The casino would know this before implementing it. There is no place for doubt. If there is, then they shouldn’t implement it. And since my system is simple, it’s not going to be that hard figuring it out.

What gamblers need most is a platform that have less problem, so if a gambling platform have to do with all of this, I believe that what you have to is to be selective in any of the gambling platform you wish to gamble with, to be sincere, one of the things that makes gambling platforms to be okay and understanding is about the network, having a reliable mindset in a gambling websites it depends on the futures of the gambling platform or websites, that's why many people change gambling websites every time and they don't keep one gambling websites or platform.

That's a good point, provably fair is the phrase that just became popular in the gambling industry and it's mostly for marketing reasons as not all provably fair are so, but we still can't condemn all of them at the same time. Some might truly be provably fair, only that persistent losses are making people not care if it's fair or not and tagging them as entirely not fair.

For the avoidance of doubts at times, one could still check for the following among others;

1. If the casino provides the proof to back the provably fair system up.
2. It should reflect in their terms and conditions and the interpretations.
3. Third-party audit goes a long way
4. Providing the seed and hash verification is another layer of trust
5. Reputable RNG in generating the outcome of the game proves to be fair as well.
6. Authenticity of the registration and regulation
7. You might also make searches and read professional reviews to learn about the scrutiny of their service

To be honest with, I myself don't regularly play on different casinos, atleast for the moment, I've maintained playing on one casinos for several months, but ideally, it is completely normal for one to switch between casinos from time to time just as you have said it, and this is not always because they find any fault with the casino they previously played on,  but things as simple as a bonus can indeed make some gamblers switch casinos, or even finding another casino  offering a better odds on their sports games can as well make any gambler switch casinos.

This is exactly the same thing happening in offline businesses, for so many people out there, there is no permanent customer any where for them, they patronize or buy from who ever is selling the best products at a cheaper rates, so it's exactly the same with gambling casinos for so many gamblers.

Sorry to say this doesn’t make much sense.

A game is either PROVABLY fair, or it’s NOT. There is no in between. You can’t just cheat a little, or trust just a little bit. There should be absolutely no room for trust. You either understand how it’s provably fair and verify it by yourself, or you’re simply trusting. That being said, it is true that some casinos call some of their games “provably fair”, but in reality they’re not. Stake for example has true provably fair games, not some others though.

Now to understand and verify, initially, a lot of time and skill is needed. This is what my system solves.

Sometimes,  what really the need to switch from one casino to the other when you have already tested the reputation and system of a particular casino over time,  I think it is highly uncalled for if you believe in the fact that the multiple casinos you test the higher your chances of winning,  we better change that mentality,  and the only time I visit another casino for any reason is only if I am doing so just to review the casino and how effective its features are at some point.

Although the majority of gamblers,  are chasing after bonuses and so since majority of the casinos offers first time bonuses,  some of the may jump from one casino to another all with the aim to grab some bonuses.

You actually quoted three of us, so I still find it difficult to know the one out of all to whom you directed the first lines of your reply, me or others? And if it's me, then you are the one who didn't understand what I wrote, how could probably fair be in-between? That's not possible and I couldn't have mentioned that. For clarity, as you can see in my reply above, there are three important points which I would like to simplify for you to understand better in case you found it difficult to understand as I put it.

The first point is about the marketable remarks of provably fair, and of course, everyone would want to deal with fair casinos, not otherwise, which is the reason why the provably fair becoming increasingly popular.

The second point is that not all casinos that prove they are provably fair are actually so, and still yet, there are many that say they are provably fair, and indeed, they are, and thanks for naming Stakes yourself.

And the last point is that provably fair or not some gamblers would not want to believe simply because they are losers.

You can read the post again and confirm with this and let me know if you still find the "in-between" you mentioned.

So how's it been for you OP? Have you caught attention of casino owners by advertising your projects? Were there any sales? Where and when can we expect the system to appear?
If you received no messages and weren't even in talks with any of the already existing casinos, maybe there's no interest in buying it. Maybe the community is fine with the current state of provably fair...
Maybe it's not worth it for them to invest in this project which can cost them a lot of money to implement, as long as there's not enough complaints on the existing system to start looking for alternatives.

Is it actually by what you say or by what the reality is with what you're saying, there are many people who have been here for long time past and were no where to be found because they brought in something they feel could serve it's purpose to realize that what is involved is beyond what they are seing or aiming, this just tells about us that we should be mindful of whatsoever thing we do, there's always a positive and negative aspect of it.

I haven’t made any deal. There was a major casino representative (who had written many papers on provably fair and a member of the crypto gambling foundation), we had some discussions, but at the end of the day he was expecting me to just share my paper without any prior agreements, which of course I didn’t want to do.

Another casino representative not so reputable contacted me here, so I asked for Escrow, because I am not trusting less reputable members. He did not come back to me.

Maybe you’re right, they don’t want to invest in it, and that current system is fine and nobody’s complaining about it. I will continue with my life as before and no problem.

But in my opinion, there is too many people saying “scam”, and only looking at some posts here show completely false claims and misunderstanding about provably fair. I think the casino who will implement my system will make a killing. Now why no one seems to want make an agreement and see for themselves free of charge first, no one knows, but it is what it is. I contacted Eddie the owner of Stake and Bijan Tehrani as well to no avail. As of now, I think my chances are slim, but who knows, these owners might be too busy managing their funds given their recent success. Perhaps in future they might want to give such a thing more attention.

Anyway…. To answer your question, my system might never see the light, or someone else might discover it.

Having such a system for checking provable fairness, you have probably already checked many games in different casinos.  Or is this still difficult for you, since perhaps you do not have so much free time or, for example, you do not have enough free money to place a large number of bets and then check the results using your algorithm. 
Please tell us how many casinos or how many games in different casinos you have checked for provably fair algorithms.  I don't ask what casinos or games they are, understanding that this is classified information.  Just name the number of such checks and how many casinos and games did not successfully pass these checks. 
I think such statistics will be very interesting to many players.

Negative energy should stay far away because I'm focus on gaining excellence, I'm only in for positive vibes and that's definitely what keeps me going. There are these set of people we're supposed to hang around with and not some negative minded individuals that ate always looking forward to acknowledge negativity. That's definitely not how to handle this whole matter. The power of things is in the mouth, we should be extremely careful of the words that do actually come out from mouths because it contains great power than we could even imagine it exists.

In my paper, I have the provably fair system applied to blackjack, baccarat, roulette, HiLo, Crash, Keno, Plinko, Limbo, video poker, and some others. Can also be applied to poker texas holdem and omaha, the ring game.

I like your post. This is very important, but you can never ignore the objective evaluation of things, since some things (in this instance, my provably fair system) are superior to others. That being said, pessimism might bring the best projects down, yeah that’s true.

I agree with you. Socializing with negative people can be dangerous to our psychological state. Negative people can transfer their negative energy with those they communicate with. As a result of this communication, people can feel stressed. I have noticed more than once that I also feel anxious after communicating with negative people.

If you created a new and better provably fair engine that's cool, but once a casino hire you to implement it then it will become public because the casino has to explain to the users how it works.

And i don't see the current provably fair engines as complex as you mention, they have logic and they already let the users verify their rolls.

A provably fair engine must have 3 elements:

-Server Seed.
-User Seed.
-Nonce.

If you skip any of those inputs then your engine isn't provably fair, that why it would be nice to know your system to be able to compare it with the current ones the casinos have and decide if it's better or not.

The truth may be bitter, just as when every trolling users bounce into this forum without going through the right way in the he normal and expected things required from them, we tend to remind them of what's being involved or at stake in every of their necessary steps taken, but OP can as well make it look more real by changing the entire pattern used and let people build their trust in what he offers.

You don’t see it as complex? Are you a developer? How do you verify your bets?
Yes that is correct about what you mention for the 3 elements.

Math algorithms and methods cannot be registered, do not ask me why, but there is certainly an edge on a first implementation if you move it fast enough. Why would someone bother to implement if you offer a credible cheap service. I agree that it would be terribly difficult to make a business of implementation, but what about auditing and verification?

I agree. They would get customers to register while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. It will take some time for them to know about it, make a plan, talk with the developers and then implement it and release it. In the meanwhile, the platform who implemented it first will get many new customers.

I really don't know if you may have been hired by any casino here on this forum, but if not, then I think they are yet to be convinced by this service which you offer, which is also a sign that you actually need to step up your marketing strategy to convince the over 20+ casinos we have here on this forum. But however, there is a statement highlighted bold above which you just said which caught my attention (i.e while other platforms are busy implementing my system of provably fair games. ), which implies that there are many casinos out there which you were able to help implement this strategy of provably fair games, right? So if so, why not give an example of some of the casinos you were able to help implement this method so that casino representatives here could go examine the previous work you did, and if they are satisfied with it, they could likely hire you to come duplicate same on there casino.

That's just my simple suggestion. Thank you

What you put in bold means that once a single casino implements it, everyone will see it and follow steps, no doubt about it. It will take some time though, and during that time it would be my client Casino who will get the players. The other casinos don’t need any permission because systems, ways of doing things or algorithms can’t be patented.

Isn't it more better that we allow everybody to claim what they want or they are into, why i say this is for them to be able to get their own satisfaction well enough beyond their conviction and then they get contempted, then they will be able to know their own limit for whatever they are bringing to others as if it could always be the solution to other's people's problem, gambling is far beto what we think we can on our own self solve the problem, even the gambling casinos couldn't, how much us.

Spamming to meet post requirements should be severely punished. This account should be tagged.

are you an open source fan? i am...

how about you just say what your idea is- you seem like a smart guy, you will have more ideas... and maybe next time they will align better with your skill set so you can utilize it.

if you dont/cant make your own site, just say the idea and take pride and joy in possibly bettering an industry we all, obviously, care about. its very hard to make money from an idea you cant grow yourself.

just spill it. i mean, what are we here for? to give you business advice?

Yes, I'm a developer, the way I verify my bets is almost the same in all the provably fair engines.

1.-You make a string with the SSeed, USeed and the Nonce. then get the sha256 from that string.
2.-take the last 4 digits from the sha256 change from hex to Dec for dice and to binary for plinko.

Those 3 elements are necessary for the next reason:

-Server Seed: To avoid the user predicting the next roll (That's why it comes hashed and user can see it after getting  new seed.)
-User Seed: To avoid the house manipulate the bet result.
-Nonce: To have a different result in the next bet with the same seeds.

So, I'm really curious about your method, if you don't have one of these elements then the bet can be rigged from the user or house side.

I think you are overestimating the competitive edge a casino gets from provably fair gaming. Casinos want a good reputation among their potential customers. So if your system can get them that then that's what you should pitch.

PF is not some magic bullet that will increase business though. Many casinos operate without it on their reputation alone, casinos with a robust PF system can and do go out of business.

I know you must be really curious, and I also can’t wait to share my system, but unfortunately I haven’t had the opportunity yet.

Yes I was pretty sure you were a developer, if you don’t find understanding and verifying the provably fair games a difficult task (at least in the beginning). My system is destined to non developers, who know a little bit about crypto and computers to be able to use a crypto casino.

This is definitely a very important issue in this whole initiative of yours to introduce a new algorithm for checking the integrity of casinos.  In general, I admit that the managers of many casinos may answer that it is even better for them to work in a state of uncertainty.
Perhaps their business is even better, regardless of whether players know whether the games are provably fair at a given casino or whether these are unsubstantiated claims by the casino devs.  And they don’t need any verification algorithms at all.  In addition, I don’t think that the casino’s customer base is seriously increasing from such an essentially marketing technique as a public statement by the casino about the introduction of algorithms for checking provable fairness.  Most likely, the increase in the client base is estimated at a few percent and does not seriously increase the flow of funds to the casino’s balance sheet and its profits.
And if this is approximately the case, then it may indeed be difficult to find among casino managers the interest of a manager who actually resolves issues in the implementation of algorithms for checking provable fairnesss.

Still open for suggestions on whom I might contact.

How far?

I’m asking simply out of curiosity and so that other forum users would think about the fact that alternative algorithms for checking provable honesty could indeed be invented. 
This is a rather important direction for the development of the entire gambling industry in general, it seems to me.  So, OP, please respond, has anything changed in your search for those casino executives who would agree to use this innovative invention of yours.  Or is it still just polite or even not polite refusals to cooperate? 

Actually, since this looks like some kind of mathematical algorithm, maybe it’s still worth starting to discuss it in the scientific community of mathematicians, maybe even in some kind of disguised, hidden form (so that no one steals the invention)?

Unfortunately, there might be no future (for me) in regards to this. Until someone from within the casino industry figures it out.

It’s a good idea though to continue talking about it, maybe outside of a strict gambling enterprise environment, like you said.

This is what probably makes sense.  If such conversations continue, then more people will, in principle, learn, not only that there are honesty verification algorithms, which even if they had heard about before, they simply forgot and did not attach importance to this information.  And the idea will also spread that there may be several such algorithms, and not just one, as many players think.  So it seems to me that this topic can be continued without being particularly distracted by it. 
But when it is in the first links of the Gembling section, sometimes forum users will still go to this topic.  And this will intensify the discussion, I think.

What makes you think  you have solved the problem ?
You need to broaden your horizons and by this setting boundaries to making  sure every steps is taken into input will help you achieve a great deal .

Looking at your set up,i would preferably say you have come along way but it didn't go down to eliminating or solving the complexity in fair games..
We all know gambling is a game of tactics,IQ and lots more but you need to breakdown the parts you have tremendously tackled.

My system eliminates most of the complexity linked to verifying provably fair games. What does that mean? It means you don’t have to be a developer nor you have to learn coding, nor install any coding software to verify the outcomes (nor any other software or plugin). The steps are basic and simple. Now of course, since we’re talking about verifying outcomes, a bit of effort is needed, but is nothing compared to the effort needed for the current system.

Am not an IT developer or anything though I know some basic stuff due to which I won't comment on the technical stuff, but I am just curious as to whether you received any compelling offers regarding your system op?

Asking because it's been a couple of months since you created this particular thread and it seems like you haven't really achieved much success so far.

Why not create a website and implement your system there.
Create a portfolio and then approach gambling sites and show them your prototype.
This way you will get more credibility and you might crack a deal.

Everything can be improved, no matter how good it may seem now. Maybe you may not see it but if someone else sees it and tries to make it better, then I don't see anything wrong with that. People are constantly trying to improve a lot of things that are "okay as it is" and they should be encouraged to do so. If their innovations are better than the previous ones, then they should be adopted, but if it's not, they should be discarded.


Why not contact the casinos directly through email?
I don't know who to contact for stuff like this, but I feel the best way to contact them is through email. I'm not saying it guarantees you a positive outcome but it's worth the shot.
Also, research people trying to develop a casino and reach out to them.

If you truly believe you have something great to offer and if you believe it's something they'll like to have don't stop. Know that you'll most definitely get some rejections, but that should teach you and you should learn from it.

I did. No answer whatsoever. Only one executive here on forum contacted me, a very respected person, and a member of the crypto gambling foundation. After some emails, it looked clear he wanted me to share my system without expecting anything in return. I made a very reasonable offer and he stopped responding (as I said, revealing my system is free of charge. They’re only charged if they decide to implement it!!). Big upset.

For casinos, it’s almost over. But it’s a good idea to research people who develop casinos.

Casino owner's plays a vital rule in the overall reality of the casinos and how it functions on the long run, this is very much important because when you talk about the system that makes up for the casino, it will be hard to deviate from the actual fact and figure of what really transpired behind the scenes, and this is very important to note at all time, when it comes to gambling operation.

So for that, we may have to take the time to reflect on the basic content of the team at least we should know their gambling background and how their meet up with the market demands and also carry themselves along the way.

Yeah I think that’s the truth. But to be honest with you, I can’t hide the fact that I’m angry about the outcome. I mean I am REALLY CERTAIN that this system works WAY MUCH BETTER than the current system. NO ONE wants to even take a FREE look at it. And those who took a little interest want a free look at my system, that’s fine with me, but without any further engagement in case they decide to use my system for their casino…. I mean come on. In any case, casino executives, your messages are always welcome. That’s all I can say for the time being.

That being said, I wish you all the best of luck, in business and personal life.

Ops I agree with you on the fact that no one took a look at what you presented and you should already know the reasons why,  because many times it has become clear and proven that none of such tools work at least not in casinos and the reason is that,  the casino has a system that is proactive in security checking of any possible attempts to bypass it inhouse edge system.

That is the reason why it seems to sound as if no one can have such a working system that works with you all the time and let's see if you can prove that further convincingly.

Don't mind him mate, everyone has the freedom of saying whatever thing they like for the reasons best known to them, it's just as if someone should come here now to tell us that he has a solution to how we cannot miss a gambling bet any longer again by giving a trick, of it had been working then he would have been the first person to benefits from it and also that he wouldn't have wanted to give it out.

These 2 accounts must be flagged for shitposting. Completely out of subject.

I'll disagree on that, there are things that are what many would call the peak of innovation already you know something like if it ain't broke don't fix it kind of thing, that's definitely what the current provably fair system is, it's in a good working order and improving it in my opinion is just going to lead to make it more complicated for new users to understand, there's already a ton of stuff that's been reinvented already, I don't believe that a lot of them ever became successful at replacing the technology that they've been created from, sure innovation is good but it should be something new and not something that's recreated or reinvented as I said earlier.

This sounds great, at least in theory—I mean, “provably fair play.” However, personally I would like more details. How will it be proven or disproved that the game is fair?
     I don't mean the practice of match fixing, I mean the many practices of bookmakers. We know that bookmakers don't like profitable players at a distance. And in many cases, they can perform not entirely legal or fair manipulations: reduce odds, cut maximums, block accounts. Can all these activities be tracked or moved to the web3 realm? In any case, I associate progress in the field of betting with a further increase in the transparency of bookmaker organizations.

This is an example of people interested in “provably fair” games. They’ll find their answer easily in my system.

This hidden gem 💎 is still waiting for its future owner to shine. The 💎 will reveal itself free of charge. Of course, prior agreements should take place just in case (and in reality when) the casino executive decides to use it for his company, but that is not much to ask and really a minimum for anyone coming up with such an idea.

Every casino will know what the gamblers are doing, whether it is cheating by using prohibited tools or by other means, what is clear is that the casino will be used to finding every fraud and carrying out several preventative and warning efforts.
There will be consequences that gamblers must accept, such as accounts being frozen or being asked for KYC, but the worst is that the account is frozen, all balances cannot be withdrawn or used and the account can only be used again if the casino has opened it.
This is clearly problem that is quite complicated and detrimental to us as gamblers, so as much as possible we must be able to avoid various prohibited things which can clearly have negative impact on our own survival in the gambling industry.

In context like this, if it is all aimed at business and given for free then it will clearly be detrimental and will not provide the slightest profit, everything must be taken into consideration because this is business.

Up. Lots of out of subject spams here. Just don’t want my message to get lost.

Up. The hidden 💎 is still waiting.  :-[

The hidden 💎 is still waiting, and it is up for a show for free  :P

I am going to do a presentation in one of the medium sized clubs (medium to small size, but at least prestigious)

The casinos are monitoring every activities ongoing by the gamblers and they have set up some security measures over that in which they will get informed or notified of any cheat or attempt to pass by on their network settings, if they deduce such, they wont have to render a warning in any way, the next thing they do is to take action and bloc such user, so its more better not to get into such mess and later regret why the start in the first place.

You should make public your provably fair system because even if you sell it to a casino they will make it public to let the users verify their rolls.

I'm still curious about how it works. Maybe you could create a website where you explain the logic of your system and accept donations for those who decide to use it.

If the conference goes public please share the link here, i would like to watch it.

The conference is only to explain the provably fair system to these landbased cardroom managers, I will not expose my system, but give hints to it. Who knows, that might lead to some opportunities, or they might redirect me to other professionals…

Yes I know there was also one respectable online casino executive who wanted me to show my system for free, and I accepted it, on the condition to make some agreements on some reward in case they decide to use my system, and he didn’t want to! There is zero chance I am revealing it without some sort of previous agreement.

I don't get what you're going for, but this comes off pretty naive. You can't just drop vague hints about some magic provably fair system and expect investors to bite - they need details and verification.  Casinos aren't about smoke and mirrors, but solid security engineering to guarantee fair games and  if you've actually invented something groundbreaking, you'll need more than a sales pitch.  Bring the data and engineering to prove it.  The gambling industry values innovation but only if it checks out under the hood.

Did I say I was expecting investment? Or that it was a sales pitch?

Yes you did. Investment can take many forms. Even asking for someone's time, you're asking for an investment. You want their attention, and potentially, their money.  As for the "sales pitch", read the dictionary if you don't know the meaning of the term.

Everyone's time is valuable and as a company executive's time is very valuable, it takes a lot of effort to communicate with them and get their attention, which is very difficult, so it's also an investment because you're spending a lot of your time with that particular person to talk about your product and at that time if they like your product then you will get the most benefit, so it is an investment.

For provable fairness onchain, i have been stumbling upon solutions like this one from Chainlink:
https://docs.chain.link/vrf
Verifiable Random Function is used by quite a few smaller onchain platforms in the meanwhile, think this is something to take a look at, especially taking into account the reputation Chainlink has build for themselves.
The biggest oracle competitor, Pyth, has been developing a similar solution, Entropy, but i have not heard of projects using it yet
https://pyth.network/blog/pyth-entropy-random-number-generation-for-blockchain-apps

It is difficult to come up with the right idea because everyone has different perspectives, so it is better to try to learn more from each other's opinions. And this community is also created in such a way that everyone can share their opinions. I have given my opinion here which may not agree with others, but I think it feels right to me. Yes it's true sometimes it seems like someone is attacking because everyone has a different opinion, but in reality everything is different it's just that person's personal opinion.

This is very interesting, but not from the player’s point of view. The player, again, should trust the system or understand a very complex process.

On the other hand, the link you provided redirects to a page for version 2 documentation, which itself contains “developer documentation” link, that redirects to the first page, that has no developer documentation whatsoever, but only on the commercial use of their services.

I like that the small discussion in this topic has resumed and that the OP does not give up his idea about the algorithm he found and the possibility of somehow monetizing his invention. 
On the other hand, look at the processes of your game, because sometimes it’s true that the thought that something is wrong in the game algorithms on the part of the casino, especially when you are experiencing a period of pathological bad luck.  So checking the fairness of the game is the most important element of the psychological impact on the player.  And in any case, this is aimed at acquiring a comfortable state during the game.  When a player knows for sure that the game is being played fairly, then even losing a game is not as offensive as if you suspect that your opponent’s game is not fair.
 However, the question arises whether checking honesty is a marketing technique.  And most importantly, is it not necessary to somehow check the honesty of the new honesty verification algorithm?  But this can only be done by a specialist, a very strong, trained and experienced mathematician.  And among casino managers, there are hardly any such people.  So it becomes a vicious circle.  And therefore, you can still search for a long time and unsuccessfully for casino bosses for the potential implementation of a new algorithm and for such mathematicians too.  And many casino bosses don’t need this at all, since their game algorithms themselves may not be entirely fair, and the new algorithm can expose them. 
Perhaps only theoretical interest remains in the implementation of the new algorithm.

If you followed the conversation, you know that the objective of my system is to give the players that ability instead of it being just for specialists as you say.

There are casino bosses who understand this. I talked to one of them, who was simply expecting me to send it to him for free with no strings attached whatsoever. But at this point no I have almost no hope for monetizing my system. I’ve tried everything I could. I’ll just keep this in mind until the day I can somehow somewhere put it in place myself.

Sometimes we may not be able to achieve to a certain extent what we have intend to do because we have no strong financial background to pursuing after the target we have set, as long as we have something to offer to the community or general public as a whole and we have no buoyancy in finances or have some kind of dependencies in other to achieve such as a target, we may not got tied to some certain limit on how far we can go.

Honestly, you deserve my respect more and more!
 I think many users of our forum will agree with me if they read what is written in this topic.  I understand perfectly well that just giving someone your invention and not getting anything from it, as for example the casino boss offers you, is the most wrong and stupid action.  But your decision to wait for the best moment to implement the invention is the right decision.  In addition, over time, it is quite possible that you will have new thoughts and you will be able to somehow refine or improve your algorithm.
Overall, I wish you good luck and patience.
 Perhaps a year or two will pass and this invention will suddenly become in demand.

So what OP means is that he analyzed and read the Provably Fair algorithm well, but what does OP want? If it's not to monetize your product, what do you Want ? I see this like this, if I go in to play, and I know that I have a viable reading of the algorithm that the OP made , that means that before playing I must make a move to know if it works or not, that means that it is an algorithm movie prediction, if I make a very big bet, does the reading algorithm tell me if I win or not? Because that's how I see it, I don't know the technical part of these things Very Well , but I Understand that it can be Put into clear terms like this, right?

There's no such thing about algorithm.  :) specially on dealing up with gambling games specially on luck based and also there's no problem to that. yes its complex but as long it would be something fair
and not rigged then it should be fine. I dont know on what OP does really wants considering that he would be needing to be that contacted on his mediums.

Dont expect that you could be able to make money easily on whatever you plans but since you do look that you do persevere and having those hopes, then good luck into your endeavor.

But on the other hand, if you start playing some kind of gambling game and make, for example, large bets, of course you need to be sure that the game is being played fairly. 
Simply because on your part these bets are made based on your capabilities and your game moves.  And your gaming behavior is 100% fair. 
But is this the case on the part of your opponent in the form of an online casino?  How can you be sure of this?  Not at all.  If you don't have any tool to check. 

Here OP claims that he invented such a tool. 
However, the question remains open that at the time the casino is checked by this tool, they will turn out to be fair, but the casino algorithm may also contain dishonest elements and games that appear in individual rounds of the game in a random order.  How to catch such manifestations of dishonesty on the part of the casino is probably quite difficult.
 And even an extremely powerful verification tool may not be able to cope if such bursts of “luck on the casino’s side” are programmed quite rarely.