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August 31, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
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The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.
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August 31, 2023, 05:44:24 PM
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Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.
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August 31, 2023, 09:47:48 PM
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Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.

Most casinos are not honest, and do cheat, and this doesn't effect their reputation because it is either selective, or the cheating is not provable, or both. I respect your persistence and wish you the best of luck despite my opinion Smiley
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September 01, 2023, 08:26:16 AM
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The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.
Slot providers are often in a bind between delivering quality and ensuring profitability. Casinos are profit-driven entities, of course, they don't care about fairness or quality as much as their bottom line. Though, If every casino thought this way, wouldn't they all have the same product? Think about it. How boring. Your idea that casinos won't opt for fairness is, to put it mildly, naive. Think back to land-based casinos that faced immense criticism and regulations. They adapted, and they thrived. Why? Because the gambling evolves. That's a fact

The idea of creating one's own casino is not novel. The gamble (pun unintended) here is not in the creation but in the sustained operation. You do understand the intricacies of licenses, jurisdictions, and compliance, right? However, with "the right team"? Damn, if only it were so simple. The right team is just one cog in the vast machinery of casino operation. But, I digress. If the product is superior, why pitch to casinos at all? Directly target the consumers. Let them decide

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September 01, 2023, 09:16:42 AM
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I'm not very into coding and I understand the dilemma of wanting to put your system to good use but without revealing it in advance to prevent it from being "stolen".
Is there the technical possibility that you could use it to set up a third-party independent provably fair verification service?

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September 01, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
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I'm not very into coding and I understand the dilemma of wanting to put your system to good use but without revealing it in advance to prevent it from being "stolen".
Is there the technical possibility that you could use it to set up a third-party independent provably fair verification service?
There is no need to audit it, it’s adding more risk for not that much reward. Let’s say it is not really what I’m saying, the casino hiring me will lose nothing at all, including my advisor payroll, since I said I am willing to sign a contract to bet all of my payroll on baccarat with my system + some of my own money, and let their developers cheat me and congratulations to them.

Of course, I know that my system works and is provably fair. It is a bit frustrating though at this point that nobody seems to care. Either they’re not taking me seriously or not even reading my application.
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September 25, 2023, 05:40:56 AM
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Up.
I hope the right person hasn’t read this yet. You can’t ignore such an offer…
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September 25, 2023, 10:49:17 AM
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Hi OP, I didn't read through pages other tha OP, in the spirit of your concern that 4 pages is too long, rather to read half a page of explanation.

My suggestion is this. Instead, why not share your short explanation of current crypto provably fair on OP as a community service?

As in. If you're an expert then you can easily explain provably fair to a newbie using stake.

A good academic can do this AND this proves you really know how to simplify.

If it's good, people merit, gamblers praise it, then you get attention from the reps that you want.

Now, you're trying to attract them by saying who you are but got no proof you actually know something Smiley

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September 27, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!
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September 27, 2023, 10:08:13 PM
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.

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September 28, 2023, 04:42:51 AM
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.


I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.
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September 28, 2023, 08:22:35 AM
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I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.

My thoughts on your question:
1. All crypto-casinos belong to real legal entities/companies that have official licenses to engage in the gambling business. Most of them are licensed by the Curaçao Gaming Control Board. For example, BetFury - owner Universe B Games B.V., Duelbits - owner Liquid Gaming N.V., Stakes - owner Medium Rare N.V. All crypto casinos have a support email.
2. Persons representing the interests of crypto casinos on the Internet (BTT and social networks) are actually SMM. Persons who present/advertise the project and do not make decisions. Every company has corporate ethics and requirements for communication with clients. Therefore, it is unlikely that anyone will write to you first. Don't forget about the scam - “Admins will never DM first!”
With that said, I believe that you should contact the support team of any of the crypto casinos and offer your services, clearly stating the concept of your offer with your contact details.
P.S. I see that you had a positive experience with Duelbits. Why don't you want to offer them your services?

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provably fair games are okay as it is. They don't need to be improved upon or whatever. They basically speak for themselves even lol. While I think your idea is great and could see some use in the future once gambling becomes larger, I don't think the problem of "cheating" or whatever is a large-scale problem really. After all it's already randomized as it could get. Plus you could basically have it verify its validity. I think it all boils down on "fixing what doesn't need to be fixed". Provably fair is great as it is so I don't think this improvement is needed. Although with your skills, you're definitely going to come up with an awesome idea with real-life application that people will ponder upon for years to come. Keep at it brother.
If OP had an epiphany and came up with some unique method for checking provable honesty, then it should first be published in academic and scientific publications that have a mathematical or unitary cryptographic direction.  And at the same time, of course, retaining th authorship and rights to this discovery.  These actions, in the case of a truly ingenious nature of the invention of the algorithm, should be discussed and confirmed in the scientific community of specialists.  Further development of the idea is only possible if the scientific community truly confirms its uniqueness and accuracy.  And also the possibility of correct use in casino practice, as an algorithm for confirming provable honesty.  
I consider all other actions of OP to promote his invention in such a primitive way to be somehow naive and too simple.  

Therefore, I think no self-respecting casino would be interested in an invention that is advertised by OP in this way.

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September 28, 2023, 10:51:52 AM
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Dude go and sign up on LinkedIN. This is the wrong place to look for employers. You might have an advantage in finding cryptocurrency gambling casino employers but I think there is absolutely no need to go that specific and go the extra mile in hope of finding someone like that. There are even gambling and cryptocurrency groups on Linkedin. But you will find those groups to be more professional and career oriented than anything you could possibly find here, on the forum.

Good luck to you!

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September 28, 2023, 12:49:12 PM
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Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.

Some businesses are honest and don’t cheat. And reputation is also more important for a long lasting business for long term profits as well.
I think I’ll manage to somehow benefit a business from this without creating my own casino, which I don’t think is a good idea. If I want to make one though, I’ll do it quietly.

The crypto casinos haven’t replied, I am starting to contact non crypto casinos based outside Curaçao.

The casino industry is built upon this nature. Operations are also clandestine. It is highly unlikely that a casino would not take the opportunity to cheat or be dishonest if they thought they would get away with it. We see this every day, as new complaints are made about new casinos.

Also, majority of the casinos here are based in Curacao.

The primary motivation behind my application for this role stems from my unique approach to implementing provably fair games. Unlike current methods, my approach significantly simplifies the implementation process. This results in a game system that requires minimal cryptography understanding from players, almost no coding skills, and only a brief time to comprehend and verify game outcomes. This approach can be applied to most provably fair games at this stage.

If a casino is working with a system they built, which is trusted enough to operate and is not questioned by its user base, they will likely keep the system that they have. While your initiative is great, it's unrealistic to think that current casinos will opt for the service.

I think that your best route is to work with a developer to build a casino software, using your skills for the provably fair system. You might be a bit more successful in the long term this way.


They’re also trusting the slots right… It has been though undeniably proven that A TON of cheating happens on slots, including cheating streamers who play quite a lot and have statistical proof. You just don’t know if they’re trusting the system or being stupid. Sometimes people do stupid things but then stop doing it.

I offer a great product. I believe that if my application is taken seriously I should get some feeback, which I haven’t.

On the other hand, I explain above why opening my own casino is not good idea. It’s like revealing my system for free while taking huge risks. An already established casino will benefit much more by going first on this.

There is not much choice in slot providers. You either have games that people love, that are well designed, well functioning, etc. With less liability...or you try yourself and add a large amount of risks.

Your product might be great, I don't doubt it. Casinos don't want a great product though, they want profit. Making things fairer than what is making them money? I doubt any casino will opt for it.

That's why I suggest making your own casino. By doing so, yes, there are risks...but with the right amount of preparation and with the right team, you might find that you can thrive on your superior product, which is good for your customers.
Slot providers are often in a bind between delivering quality and ensuring profitability. Casinos are profit-driven entities, of course, they don't care about fairness or quality as much as their bottom line. Though, If every casino thought this way, wouldn't they all have the same product? Think about it. How boring. Your idea that casinos won't opt for fairness is, to put it mildly, naive. Think back to land-based casinos that faced immense criticism and regulations. They adapted, and they thrived. Why? Because the gambling evolves. That's a fact

The idea of creating one's own casino is not novel. The gamble (pun unintended) here is not in the creation but in the sustained operation. You do understand the intricacies of licenses, jurisdictions, and compliance, right? However, with "the right team"? Damn, if only it were so simple. The right team is just one cog in the vast machinery of casino operation. But, I digress. If the product is superior, why pitch to casinos at all? Directly target the consumers. Let them decide


I can't say I agree with you that they'd all be the same product. That's what innovation is for.

No, it is not novel to start a casino business. It is not what you are making it out to be either, in the case of an online casino. All it takes is a skilled and well-capitalized team to conquer the "intricacies" that you stated. Also remember that the industry is built on money, just remember that before you talk so much about compliance (bribe-able), licenses (buy-able) and jurisdictions (probably bought in most regions casinos are registered).
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September 28, 2023, 03:45:50 PM
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.


I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.

That's why I said they don't trust you. Your applications and statements mean nothing if you don't back them up with evidence and proof of concept. Having an academic background doesn't automatically guarantee honesty or expertise in a particular field.

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October 04, 2023, 07:05:05 AM
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I might never again get such a good idea or discovery.

I am reiterating my offer. Casinos please contact me so that I can reveal this amazing idea for you!

It's not that no one cares; it's just that no one has a reason to trust you. Put yourself in our shoes: would you trust some random guy on the internet to reinvent the wheel?
Unless you can somehow demonstrate and prove your idea, no casino will bother contacting you about it.


I am not asking anybody to trust me. They don’t have to pay anything until they implement it. Something like this could be discussed.

On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.

But when you get no answer at all, for someone with my academic background, you start wondering that they might not even have read my application.

That's why I said they don't trust you. Your applications and statements mean nothing if you don't back them up with evidence and proof of concept. Having an academic background doesn't automatically guarantee honesty or expertise in a particular field.

When in general OP advertises her academic education not in some serious resume, but simply writes in a post in this topic, then the very fact of such a presentation of information about herself should cause some distrust on the part of those business leaders (in this case, those who  is responsible for the selection of employees for casinos), who are looking for specialists in specific areas and with certain specific competencies. 
The fact that OP decided to open this topic in such a strange way tells us that many here may have suspicions of some kind of wrong course of action on his part. 
It is especially worth considering that we are talking about a very delicate and often quite secret area of ​​organizing the work of the business itself, built on gambling.

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October 04, 2023, 08:50:45 AM
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On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.

So you’re not a business owner I understand  Grin

This topic has led someone to direct message me some valuable contact information with some valuable advice. I personally didn’t waste my time. As for those asking that I publish my CV here they’re the ones wasting their time lol.
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October 05, 2023, 10:32:06 PM
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On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.

So you’re not a business owner I understand  Grin

Exactly, that's correct. I used to be, but I've since passed the torch to my successors. That's why now I have the freedom to spend my free time however I please.

This topic has led someone to direct message me some valuable contact information with some valuable advice. I personally didn’t waste my time. As for those asking that I publish my CV here they’re the ones wasting their time lol.

Good for you! Can we finally expect to see your provably fair implementation in action soon?

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October 10, 2023, 07:45:22 AM
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On the contrary, time is the most valuable resource of all. Every second you spend on useless things you can never get back. Businesses and business owners know how to value their time and will not waste it.

So you’re not a business owner I understand  Grin

This topic has led someone to direct message me some valuable contact information with some valuable advice. I personally didn’t waste my time. As for those asking that I publish my CV here they’re the ones wasting their time lol.
In fact, no one is asking you to publish your resume here in this topic or anywhere else on our forum, simply because the forum dedicated to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies obviously maintains the anonymity of users.  Only those who wish can, of course, introduce themselves and lose this very anonymity. 

When I wrote about the resume, I meant that no one interested would ever talk to an anonymous developer on such an important isssue.  In addition, you need confirmation of the correct operation of the algorithm you came up with.  And this cannot be done without the involvement of specific authoritative specialists.  And these should be specialists, experts working in the scientific community.  Therefore, without publication in a scientific journal, all discussions about a brilliant discovery are a waste of time.

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