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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466690.0), now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online Gamblers (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/australia-introduces-new-id-requirements-for-online-gamblers/)

The general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc.

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

They are making online gambling there properly regulated which is good for me. I know that most fiat online gambling sites already ask for KYC directly through the registration page which is why I don't know what will be the setup for this since according to the article, and from what I understand, it would be a different KYC from the gambling site and for the government.

It might totally eliminate underage gambling but at least, it should minimize one of the problems of gambling there.

Although everyone doesn't like the idea of KYC, there is no choice but to comply. Generally, only in Australia.

I can’t imagine a physical casino not doing KYC on their customers. Don’t they do that already? If so, what’s the purpose of this new law?  I believe they make lots of money from gambling in Australia. If they make it harder for the players, then the Australian government will lose lots of money. That means less health care, less infrastructure, less security etc…

I think they are trying to ban gambling without directly banning it because they don’t have the balls to do it. The sheeple are not sheep enough.

I think we have talked something similar to this last year. If not last year, it would be early this year or so. The ban of credit card will discourage gambling, there is nothing it has to do with underage. It is even easy for underage to go to betting shops, especially those that are 16 or 17 years old that will look like they are 18 years already.

The second link which is about gambler digital ID can be more linked to an effective way not to allow underage gambling, but this is another step to make privacy to becoming the thing of the past.

Gamblers can always find a way, but of course if you don't want to be in trouble then better to follow the regulations.
The ID verification might not totally reduced the volume of underage gambler, its up to the adults now if they really want to help those young people to get involve in gambling.
Australian government sees something that is important to address, and its for the better in general. In my country, we still have no strict regulation but I hope they are working into this so they can eliminate fake sites and fake agents.

The Australian economy was good,but this moves from the Australia was the unexpected by the gamblers in Australia.Because nearly half of the Australian population involve in the gambling.Australia never try to ban the gambling using the credit cards,they want to reduce the miss use of the credit cards by the children of the gamblers.Their was many issue happened in the Australia like kids of the gamblers had miss use of credit cards and play the gambling without the knowledge of their parents.The kids also loss the big money in the gambling causes the Australian government to such law on gambling.

Obviously they are trying to achieve a better resolution to the most common gambling issues like what every country has. It does look like they are very alarmed by these issues that they have put an extra effort to impose another step to eliminate irresponsible gambling. 
However, minor gamblers may be a little harder to eradicate especially online, because there are several ways to bypass it plus the other casinos might be a little loose with their KYC compliance and lastly, the underground online casinos.

I guess the main motive of the Australian government is to regulate the gambling business that is done throughout the nation. They will keep a track on each and every movement of all the gamblers and will regulate them. They will impose tax on gambling winnings too, and are planning to make good amount of money. This is the reason for which they asking for id verification, and once they find this person wins a certain amount through gambling, they will take some taxes from it.

Regulations that may also be followed by other countries but I am quite sure are not to reduce their citizens from gambling but to prevent gamblers under the specified age, because at least this is the only way the government can do to prevent its citizens who are underage from gambling, while adults are allowed because they have considerations such as having their own income and being responsible enough for everything they do, while offline casinos certainly don't need it because the casino staff can already guess the age of their customers or when they attend they just need to show ID, but I don't know for sure about this because never play at an offline casino.

They cannot stop that what you said is really happening there. Maybe they should pass a law penalize those adult individual help those minors to gamble. Maybe with this they can really reduce the cases of minors doing such activities. If they didn't put some penalty maybe the case became different since for sure with having this no adults will help young people for that situation since they are the one will get chased by authorities if they found out such activities exist on their homes. Casino KYC implementation is doing good to combat any illegal activities and for sure for knowing that exist on a casino this abusers or minors will think twice if they continue their illegal act there or just avoid and seek for another casino.

There's nothing significant in the new rules being introduced. It's just a minor requirement, an ID system, come on. If a gambling site could require that and we would comply, there should be no problem with that. Of course, it will reduce the number of gamblers if what was happening before the new rule was introduced is that minors were allowed to gamble. It will just definitely correct what is wrong.

Now, everyone submits an ID before gambling, making it easier for the government to track their gambling activities, as gambling sites are also regulated by the same government that requires the ID.

Nothing is anonymous now; with government intervention, it becomes known to them already. But don't worry, they promise to keep that information secret, as there's a privacy law. Only you, the government, and the gambling site would know, no one else, unless someone leaks that info.

From what I have seen and read in their articles, I have not noticed anything wrong with their policy that they want to implement for their gamblers or regular customers when gambling online. In fact, I am even impressed with the step taken by their government in the country of Australia—that they really care about minors.

And as far as I can see, they also teach their gamblers to be responsible when they play in the online casinos they have. So for me, it's a good job they are showing, to be honest.

Could just be compliance to let people know that they're strict and whoever sees to gamble should expect that they're going to be subject into this.

When a government prohibits and then starts to turn that decision and asks for some compliance, they just can't ignore the fact that there's much money from it if they take it for granted.

This just proved that the Australian government cannot stop their people from playing online casinos so they introduced a more stricter measures these are not only to stop minors from playing but also set deposit limits for their players.


The government of Australia is very serious about its enforcement, they do not want to see the very high figures that they saw their people losing on online casinos the government of Australia will monitor the development of their measures to ensure success, the players cannot so anything but to comply, or they cannot longer play in their favorite online casinos.

Should this requirements really be able to eliminate underage gambling?
what changes compared to before? ok there is one more document....and now? What happen?

In Italy many years ago they introduced the "fan card".
This ID was ... a credit card, the only tool with which you can buy tickets for a football match....
randomly with commissions that go to banks.

I hope this Australian ID is not exploited to introduce electronic payments.... ::)

Just like experiments, they need a few tweaks to gauge the effectiveness of the steps they take. The sizable gambling population in Australia has led to numerous individuals experiencing losses, with a 2022 report revealing that a staggering $22 billion of gamblers' funds vanished (https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-welfare/gambling) into the abyss of defeat. This underscores the necessity for Australia to begin enhancing its gambling mechanisms in order to reduce them to a more typical level.

Imposing restrictions on young children is a highly plausible means of safeguarding their future from gambling addiction. Alternatively, a more positive outcome would be for these children to remain entirely oblivious to gambling, allowing them to grow into adulthood without the influence of gambling in Australia.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/australias-welfare/gambling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Australia

The KYC problem is actually not that complicated. For example, playing at a large casino like Stake at level 1 only fills in information data without having to provide identity for level 2 verification, of course minors will not go for level 2 verification, because as we know money what they hold is not as big as big gamblers, at most only small gamblers with small bets because minors will not have a lot of money.

So they only carry out level 1 verification, which is more than enough to be able to withdraw money and make deposits, unless they are big gamblers, but even so, I sometimes see minors doing things like that, giving their identity in the name of their uncle, usually their uncle is also a gambler, so there is cooperation between them, it is rare for minors to gamble using their father's identity because it will create new problems for them with their parents.

They can't really stop it, but they're making the minors become harder to get into gambling.

Any government will try to make them looks good for caring minors or something like that, they're not really protect all of their citizen. I have a friend who studying in Australia, the fact they're have "fake university" where you're not learn anything and there's no way to finish your college.

If the main aim of this is to try to reduce gambling addiction(although not stated), underage gambling and some other health risks issue in gambling, then it would be great but if they have other motives like adding taxes to gambling. Because if they should introduce this, they’ll be able to monitor bettors and also see the see their total spending, wins and loses that way they can allocate the amount they are to pay for tax.

The fact still remains that, even if they introduce this Id requirement before gambling minors will still be able to figure out a way to bypass the system and pretend as if they are of age so the government should keep that at the back of their mind.

What are the key changes in this new regulation? Will Australia's new ID rules mean that bettors have to provide their ID cards before they can start playing?
Considering that ID (KYC) verification is already a mandatory requirement, why not implement it right during the registration process rather than waiting until after a withdrawal attempt? It seems like a fair approach.

The only way to reduce and limits people from using their elderly ID's to verify their account is to set a facial recognition by so doing if the identity details doesn't corelate with the face recognition then such account should be halted for cheating. However this regulations and the new ID, does the ID control the limits your wager could be or when this new identity is being used it only sets a kind of restrictions account during finding?
There must be something that could connects with the new ID, but have they also thought that one can deposit without using their credit card, gamblers can easily used bitcoin to gamble (to withdrawal and deposit).

A new ID requirement is a good idea I think, it will reduce under-age gamblers for sure. It will also ensure that those who hid their gambling activities from their family will now stop gambling or accept that they are gamblers. What I think will happen now with this new law is that onsite illegal gambling dens will flourish, and it will now help non-KYC crypto casinos gain more users. The use of VPN & TOR will increase for hiding their identity. The final result would be very bad for Australia and ultimately they would rethink these new laws. In the past there have been many instances when a country tried to shadow-ban gambling, the end result was that they had come up with new ideas.

The Australian government is taking a new step to reduce underage gambling. But as we know, if it is an online casino, they can use the ID of their parents, older brothers/sisters, or even their father's/mother's siblings. And they can do it without adults knowing. They can also use online crypto casinos that do not ask them to do KYC at the start of their play. And as long as they don't make too large a deposit, they can still gamble at the casino. Of course, the Australian government wants to reduce underage gambling and they also want to collect data on the number of people who gamble. Maybe in the future a tax will be imposed on gamblers as a source of income for the state.

But how would that work? Would there be additional measures to these "new" requirements that they would do? And in addition, wouldn't users just go to a casino without these strict requirements? Like crypto casinos for example. I hardly doubt they'd tell casinos to implement geoblocking for international ones, though if it was officially a law then it should work.

Unless they're able to provide a method where they can detect if the user is different from the id provided, I highly doubt they'd be able to prevent this. Even that method of having your face beside your ID selfie method isn't enough if there's some asses of a parents (or whoever is the real owner of the id) who just allows it.

Australia is changing gambling laws I'm so as to reduce underage gaming and gambling disorder. Although these laws might affect the freedom to gamble in the country, yet I appreciate any change that will prevent children from becoming involved in gambling. Underaged gamblers are highly prone to gambling disorders. Although these laws might have some consequences that should be looked into. I don't know how they intend to handle the rise of unregistered or illegal casinos that will see these restrictive laws as an opportunity to access the Australian gambling market. With these restrictions, VPNs and other privacy website will be used to invade these verifications. But this ID verification is a move at the right direction and we hope to see the impact very soon.

I have come across a casino that demand ID verification before deposits,  and I had to submit my ID for verification before being able to play on the casino but then also again I agree that for the fact that rules are rule and casinos already stated it in their t&C make is right for them to demand for such verification requirement of an ID documents.

Although we have casinos like Stake and the rest of the other reputable popular casinos that require just minor level one verification on accounts, just know that when it comes to KYC,  every casino with they own unique rules.

I think the ID requirement for gamblers in Australia is a very good approach to stop children from online gambling and should be adopted by most countries of the world in other to stop the increasing number if children who's been gambling online.
Children who wants to gamble will definitely be spotted through the ID requirement and stopped from engaging in gambling

Does this mean a gambler needs to comply with the KYC of the online gambling site while at the same time, also complying with the governments own KYC in gambling?

Sounds a hassle to me but maybe online gambling sites there will just verified if the gambler already pass the government KYC. The method is not mentioned in the article.

It seems that Australia is really active in making gambling activity there fully regulated.

You made a great point there because through the ID the age of the gambler will be revealed and if underage he will be denied access to register an account,  I believe this is one of the reasons why some of the licensed casinos are mandated to request for ID for their KYC verification m,  and this should be coming from the government a d in the fight against underage gambling.

I don't want to dive into the discussion on the decentralized casinos that allows for all access without kyc, but have hard their own challenges also.,  so it is better to have a verified account don a reputable casino then trying to hide under the wrong IP to play.

This seems like the government in Australia is making action regarding with the gambling habits of the people right there's because they didn't make any action take if the number of cases regarding with that is just limited, and due to the increase of transactions the use of the credit cards that cant pay with their debts they implement this kind of rules. Those transactions with the banks with the use of cards are detected with the checking on the system so I guess its a ride move with the additional KYC requirements of the users capability to make pay with those debts.

If their purpose of introducing such measures is to actually reduce or eliminate the rate of underage gambling among some kid citizens, then I consider it to be a good approach. The issue is that there will always be a way out, and so many of those smart kids can still find a way out. Just like you said, they will still have the IDs of their elder siblings or parents; they could also get them from some mutual uncles or aunts that can do anything for them; they could just convince them to have such IDs for them. There's a saying that in every difficult situation, there is always a way out, and I feel they can still find a way out to continue doing their thing despite the laws.

I'm not sure why the capability to pay is still mentioned here. It's not the government that evaluates your capacity to pay, but rather the credit card companies themselves. When you are granted a credit card, it means you are deemed capable of paying your credit, and as individuals, we each have different credit limits.

What the government is trying to do here is to ensure that credit cards are not used for gambling. This is aimed at reducing gambling addiction, possibly based on their evaluation through data provided by the credit card companies, which may indicate a significant amount of credit being used for gambling purposes.

In short, they are trying to promote responsible gambling.

Did you think there could be a compromise?
When the ID is being introduced within some specific period of time and they noticed some kinds of restrictions that involves in gambling or that relates with funds deposit and limitations they could source for a way to compromise the whole system, maybe most of them could still their parents account to start gambling if the new ID restrictions is not applicable to the older people then you would find the underage kids using their parents details. So in my own opinion and suggestions this restrictions to should sets to all citizens including old and young if this is the best way to control and reduce the risk associated with how much they could gamble with.

If they would really be that tending to have that ban then it would really be definitely be affecting that taxation that they could get on gambling industry and this is why this kind of suggestion whether it would really

be that implemented or would really be just sticking into that ID identification rather than on having that no exemption or whatever terms that they would be setting in. If they do really have those plans on controlling from young people to engage on with gambling then it is really that somewhat pointless or something that could really be easily be bypassed which we know that ID
and other information  could really be easily be that pass by those youngsters who are really that wise on trying to make things turn around and make them believed that it was
a legit adult did make out such deposit.

Each country does have their own regulations and set of rules in speaking about gambling.Some do mind about having that control and some doesnt really care at all
as long they would really be able to take advantage if we do speak about taxation then this what matter most fo them and dont mine other
probabilities or things that could happen.

So this new rule : Or this one which was used before :

Where’s exactly the modification on the requirements if you only decide to do a verification before playing or after? How this measures will prevent underage or fraudulent gamblers from verifying their accounts if they could do after 72 hours? Is me who didn’t understand this well or it’s really so silly?
There are many better options to prevent fraud or any criminal activities with casinos, real effective methods such as confirming accounts or special withdrawal orders of significant sums of money by a manual video call.
Verifying the names in lists that government will provide of the most known money laundering organizations for example.
In order to really find an effective way to fight such activities, the casino should invest in workers and systems. I must say that any 16 yo child can bypass these measures and can edit and create a fake ID or even use his own relatives ID.

Firstly, Australia is wanting to clear its name, as in recent months gambling in this country has become a worldwide known problem and this is not good for the country. See that this affects not only online games or the local population, but Australia's relationships with other countries.

Secondly, I believe they are trying to disincentivize gambling throughout society, not just by banning underage gambling, but by making it so difficult for business that no local casino will want to continue doing it.

But, with so many online games based in other countries and easily accessible in Australia, online games will continue to exist there, so I believe that all these measures will not bring many benefits to the country.

But I don't think banning gambling completely will be possible. That's why if they can tighten the requirements even in online gambling, they will bound to do it so that minor gamblers will not be allowed to gamble anymore because gambling will only make their lives miserable in the future. And parents should be responsible as well to not tolerate their minors steal their IDs as they can also be blamed for that if these minors will get addicted to gambling.

I can see that Australia is just trying to prevent their citizens not to fall deeply in gambling addiction. And they find online gambling could make a good start.

Australia is indeed a country with huge gambling communities and societies. A great number of them are addicts, the government is unsure of what decision to choose. Whether to ban gambling in the country or moderate it. The benefits of gambling money to the country is not balancing with the disaster it causes to her citizens. In such a condition, new ideas, techniques and processes would be needed in the country. Which helps to decrease the rate of addiction to a minimal amount. From other responses I've read, members said its purpose is to get hold of the young generation. As it'll be difficult to control a country where people are not restricted from gambling. It's like a treat to them, expect more security measures from the Australian government. I support it. Young people deserve better.  Like you said, it gets beyond control everyday, it'll be hard to fully restrict young people. That's why they try different methods, especially in this online gambling era. Multiple loopholes, where they can boycott the rules. It's a torn to their flesh. Government money go into gambling from numerous loans and debts of addicts. Are there tired of gambling money? because it doesn't seem like a publicity trick. The bad side of gambling has affected a lot of communities. Tarnishing the future of the addicted players. Their restricting method is not quite efficient to put the problem to a halt. They need perfect techniques.

This is one way to prevent the youth from bypassing the ID system of Australia for gambling. I have nothing against it, and I don't see anything wrong in getting it passed as I believe it does more good than harm. Aussies might need to exert a little more effort if they really want to gamble. It's not too much of an effort and lots of information involved, but it does repel teenagers in accessing gambling platforms.

The Kyc to the gambling site was the welcome one,because the website which asking for the kyc will not get involve in the scam mostly.The Australia now was regulating the gambling sites and doesn’t ban the gambling site.Some people think in the wrong way of the Australia in gambling sites.Australia was not against the gambling sites,because the Australia is the biggest economy.The economy of the Australia is not the poor like the other country to ban the gambling in their country.

Scare the kids who are gambling using the identities of their elder relatives or friends.
Putting it on the news will rattle them a bit and it could reduce the number of kids that are gambling without the knowledge of their parents and their government. They may be hiding it for that kind of reason but it's a good move if they are really planning to minimize the number of Australian gamblers.
Scare them off, let them know that they are serious about it, and make them feel that every transaction will be tracked by the government.
It's wrong for gamblers who like their privacy intact but for the government's plan to be successful then it must be done. This kind of action might actually help to gradually reduce the number of gamblers in the long run especially if you are the kind of person who doesn't like the government sniffing around your bank account or other financial accounts.

Perhaps that could be a solution to tackle underage gambling, but it still doesn't seem feasible because children may have known the casino for a long time. They may not use the casino again if there are more requirements that the casino will set. They will also move and look for another casino that is not too strict in implementing its rules.

However, children may still be able to use their parents' (older brother's or father's or uncle's) IDs to verify their accounts. So we'll see how it will be implemented and what percentage of success it will be. But hopefully, this can really reduce the number of children addicted to gambling.

It's a step in the right direction if the goal is to prevent kids from gambling. Yes they can find some workaround or use other online casinos but for how long? There may be new ones that comes out every now and then but how reputable are they? These underage can continue to "run" until such time they encounter a scam casino or when their funds are seized because of casino's sudden change in KYC policy.

It won't be very popular with cryptocurrency casinos, where there is still some privacy compared to fiat casinos, but I agree. There is an eternal debate between freedom (or lack of privacy) and security; and in this case of casinos I am fine with such measures being taken to prevent underage gambling.


If more and more measures like this are implemented, the percentage of minors who are able to find workarounds will continue to drop. There is another thing that can be done very easily too: force that in every deposit to a casino, apart from putting your card details, you have to confirm with your cell phone, via the app of your bank or otherwise, so that the underage will need not only the card, but also the cell phone to deposit and this reduces the chances too.

It's strange that Australia hasn't already required ID verification from the online casinos.
I can think of countless ways to bypass this new requirement, but I'm not sure how effective they will be.
Many Australian gamblers might start using residential proxies(they are better than VPNs) in order to change their location and signup to foreign online casinos(where KYC isn't mandatory). Proxy providers like IPRoyal were offering static residential proxies for an affordable price.


The people, who let their son or little brother gamble online by using their personal data should be punished. The problem is that it's almost impossible to find such people and to prove their quilt.

How about those who are living in Australia who will signup on a casino as U.S citizens? The government doesn't understand how desperate gamblers can be, they are able to monitor gamblers in that country because they are using credit card, now that crypto is popular, they can easily abandoned every casinos that only accept Fiat through Credit Card payment.

After reading through the website, this do got me

By asking for ID before allowing consumers to play, companies will effectively prevent efforts to circumvent their social responsibility protocols. As a result, operators will be able to identify underage individuals or self-excluded players, stopping them from placing bets.

Like it seems that they want to stop their people from all gambling activities, what do they mean by self-excluded players? Anyways I doubt it's ever going to work, there some badass proxies and premium VPNs that people can use to create accounts on online casinos right from the heart of Australia.

Australia, especially recently has started to offer very serious specifications in order to minimize gambling habits. In addition to restricting the money that individuals can spend on gambling with many regulations, many new regulations have begun to be created in order to minimize the rate of gambling with various actions. In fact, although the main aim is to reduce the rate of gambling with many decisions taken and many regulations implemented, it is a very good thing that casinos are also subject to strict inspections with government control. These regulations, in addition to controlling both individuals and casinos also enable casinos to provide services within the framework of a certain responsibility towards their users.

Especially considering physical casinos I think that the KYC procedure is mandatory for all users before this decision. Although this may seem like a newly announced decision it was actually a long-standing rule that should be implemented by every casino.

I had no idea that Australia has a such a large problems with minors gambling online. The need for new IDs to visit online casino is going to make process of creating new accounts a bit longer, but shouldn't be an issue for any adult. If you really want to gamble then showing your ID online is not going to stop you. This will only be a problem for people who don't have an ID yet or who don't meet the age requirements. Migrants who arrived newly in Australia or minors seem to be the target here. What I wonder is how all these kids are able to use their parents money for gambling without them knowing it. It one thing to streal the ID of your dad for 20 minutes to make a new casino account and something completely different to steal money regularly to gamble online. Maybe it would be better to make an information campaign for the parents to check mote after their kids. If someone really wants to gamble they will find ways to get around or break the system, better to involve the parents to get control of the kids again.

To prevent the minors to gamble online. This is a good initiative to get rid (or if not), to minimize the minors playing even they're still underage since online casinos are accessible and anyone can lie about their real age.

Although this might discourage the gamblers who don't want to expose their identity and still wants to have a privacy, they can't do anything about it but to comply. Otherwise, you can't enjoy playing online because of this new requirement.

The regulations on online gambling platforms carried out by the Australian government are very good considering that currently access to online gambling platforms is very easy and with regulations that require people to verify their identity it will reduce underage people from gambling or various other problems.
Even though children can get around this by uploading their parents' or other people's IDs, the Australian government has certainly thought about this problem and has a solution for it.

Is this all about eliminating fake sites and fake agents? Because I can't read anywhere about this point of yours, this post is about how people are ruining their lives with the help of credit cards on online casinos, and also it looks more like they plan to end gambling the easy way.

People aren't falling into scam casinos in Australia, people are losing their lives and savings to gambling and the government gets to know about it, too much debt that may never get paid and it's disastrous for the people living in Australia.

I doubt that this approach will stop some gamers from gambling but we are not all the same so I expect that some people will probably give up on gambling because of this strict restriction, especially the underage who pretend to be old enough.

First I though this news have connections with credit card ban, turns out Australia are simply crazy about gambling :D While credit card bans are stupid, KYC system to limit underaged gamblers might help Australia. However, no one has cancelled shady ID market usage. But, after reading an article from first post, I did not find anything new towards ID requirements. Ok, they gonna ask for identification to see if gambler is 18+ or 21+, before he places a bet. But I see nothing new here. What were their requirements to gamble offline and online before that? Like welcoming everyone from baby in cradle to deeply aged people with dementia to gamble? Any Australian representative here ?

Australia do their part to help their citizen minimize gambling as much as possible. The problem should be blamed to the guardians in case a minor age can gamble using their ID since KYC verification requires selfie holding ID which can’t be done without the ID owner attention.

It onky means they allowed the verification process on gambling since their country is already announcing tons of restrictions to gambling yet they don’t even care to check what the heck their children doing on their ID.

If I remember correctly, during Covid, Australia was one of those countries where quarantine took extremely totalitarian forms. It seems that since then the authorities have only aimed at banning/regulating everything that can be banned/regulated. Parasite officials are once again creating problems in order to “solve” them later; if voters do not deal with these parasites, then it will only get worse.

Australia has a long story on regulating content on the internet and also in their entertainment markets. It is one of the countries with most censure on videogames, for example. So the fact they now want to further restrict gambling is no surprise to me. I even recall reading a WikiLeaks article on how allegedly the Australian government censored internet webpages in a massive way, unbeknownst to their citizens and residents.

Sure, minors are supposed to stay away from casinos and gambling webs, but making the KYC process too complicated for everyone could negatively impact in the volume of casinos.

I don't even know who they plan to help preventing addiction through government restrictions.

They say that their country is losing billions of dollars in gambling every year and this is probably a try to reduce that amount and they are doing all these things to reduce gambling itself and not just reduce the things like minor gambling or anything. One more reason for extra verifications might be because they want to regulate online gambling so that they can tax players who manage to get big wins from gambling, they must have taxes on that, I guess.

All in all, they are eventually going to ban online gambling within the country after doing all these things, and then the only way for people from Australia to gamble will be land-based casinos and they are easily regulated by the authorities so there won't be any problems for them to collect taxes from them.

Or, Australians might get offended on their government and instead gamble abroad, feeding their money to someone else economy. We have example of such totalitarianism - China. Where gambling is allowed only in Macau. That is why when being abroad, I see that casinos are always filled with significant amount of Asian looking gamblers. But the economy of China is different to Australian. While China can allow to survive without those extra budget income, Australia might (not claiming, but supposing) get some shortage.

The Australian government is just every other government we have, that do initiate an engaging idea to benefit itself and not the large scale citizens, and can easily regulate and ban and restrict with the slightest ease.

Unless the citizens do not have a national identity card or work i.d cards to identify themselves in real life with, this new I.d requirement for gamblers all in the guise to specify the gamblers ages, or restrict gamblers is but a waste of budget and time.
Australia is way too urban to make gambling life difficult, mostly as it is surrounded by natural wonders, wide-open spaces, beaches, deserts, "The Bush", "The Outback". It's like a dream destination for many of us in other continents like myself. I do hope to gamble someday in Sydney but it would be bad if gambling is as restricted and limited as they are making it be.

So before this, there is no ID requirements for people who want to gamble in Australia?

It is probably a political play to mitigate attention from their previous announcement about banning credit cards from gambling.

For the other party gamblers, it can become fatal if they are not following whatever requirements because the casinos can hold the winning amount if the gambler fails to comply with the verification after the wins.

Wow, Australia is doing exceptionally well. I like this attitude, know your customers before they deposit money instead of asking your customers for KYC documents when they win large amounts of money.
Their attitude truly shows that they care about the gambling addiction of their citizens because it's not only about age control, they also want to integrate cashless gaming to let people still get that gambling experience but without possible financial loss.

Didn't you read the article that you posted here? It's pretty obvious they want to solve the gambling addiction problem, lower the number of gamblers and reduce the availability of casinos among teens, as much as possible and their method will obviously work, unless someone has an adult that intentionally lets teen to gamble by verifying his/her account every time teen gambles.

It will be a tedious task for the government to implement new system of identification for gamblers, but perhaps they really want to monitor who are frequently gambling so they can make plans on how to organize the regulations and restrictions on gambling whether it may be online or physical casino establishment. Although it's much better if they will just have a national ID that has been synced with every transactions so they can still be traced without the need of new ID because at some point, it will just consume time and of course, budget that still belongs to the pocket of the taxpayers.

If the purpose is only for age monitoring and legality matters, national ID will work already alongside with other things they do or pay, it will be recorded.

Underage gambling is and always has been nothing but an excuse for the government to introduce regulations which are completely useless and can be tricked by mere children. Its obviously coming from a place of pure politics rather than a true desire to stem the gambling habits and addictions of children. And lets be completely honest, how many children actually steal their parents or big brothers credit cards or ID's just to gamble? And how long can they keep it a secret? Those kinds of children do exist but they are the absolute minority, I would think. Its just not realistic.

What I think is happening is that Australian politicians are looking to gather brownie points for the next election. Thats how it works in any democratic country. Its a complete mess and everyone pretends that that is not what is happening.

I'm not a citizen of Australia and I've hardly ever read news coming from Australia, which is why it's difficult to know exactly what the scenario is that the Australian government is going through in relation to gambling that is forcing them to take these measures. , first was the ban on people using credit cards in casinos. something that from what I read was still a proposal, but the chances of such a law being approved were high because it was the consensus of the majority of legislators, now I see that they are putting rules that casinos must require ID before people put money in casino, that is, when entering the physical casino and creating an account in the case of an online casino

In my opinion, this rule should have already been put in place years ago, because in all casinos many years ago they already put a warning that it is forbidden for people under 18 to create an account and play at the casino, so how would casinos prevent this if They don't ask for ID? So, I think that in this part the Australian government is very correct, but the question I also ask myself:

If a minor takes the ID of their relative who is of legal age and is discovered by some bad luck, who will be punished in this case if the minor cannot be arrested or suffer any other sanction? I don't know what Australian laws are like, but in my country minors have immunity and cannot be arrested.

Hey everyone, I just registered and I have been given my ID, I'm now a certify gambler and the Australian government has officially allow me to gamble with my ID  ;D, the government need to get the strap because is this really necessary. What happened to alternative funding of casinos. Virtually, all casinos that I know today all have integrated crypto in their gambling platforms, what happened to those alternatives if an underage decide to use this function, this is dead on arrival because alternative are even swift and fast than the credit cards.

Coming back to people who really want this, must a person have to go through this process because they want to clean underage gambling with credit cards? What happened to their citizens privacy, what happened to how they want to live their life without any intrude of another person or may be there is another motivation about this credit card of thing. It's more like a way to know gamblers that bet that are paying tax and the other ones that don't pay taxes.

What happen to people knowing you through gambling cards? Your parents or girlfriend isn't satisfy with you gambling but lowkey without their knowledge, you do it only for them to see your gambling card :-* How do you even explain the situation? The answer to all the questions are not necessary, enter gambling through crypto and exit to crypto so don't have to explain later on.

It is not necessary to arrest a person in order to punish a person. Scenarios can be different - from a fine for parents (who are responsible for their child) to an obligation to attend lectures on the dangers of gambling or something like that and to report weekly to the police or to child supervision (in each country these organizations have a different name).
Another question is whether the casino will return the money if it was lost by a child who had no right to do so at all  ;D

True. It makes no sense. And If I am from Australia, why would I register to get a gambler's ID?
The rest of the world is even hiding their gambling activity or not allowing anyone to know how they spend their money, yet they expect a gambler to be a straight-up dude with a stick up his ass to register. Those gamblers will just walk away and find crypto casinos.

But I wonder if there is a benefit. People always want benefits and its not surprising to see people actually ask for this ID if they giveaway capital every month.  ;D

I couldn't tell you what they're looking to achieve from it, but it does seem like a concerning development regardless.  I'm not sure what Australia and Canada are up to these days but they seem like they're trying to get an ever tightening grip on their societies.  I don't know enough about this to have an educated opinion though.  Hopefully it is a best case scenario and this is some sort of move to make gambling more accessible and widespread in the future.

This is going to fail. They can impose whatever regulations they want on physical casinos. However, doing so for online casinos will never work. If they harass the online sites beyond a certain limit, then they will just shift their headquarters from Australia to some other country. And then the government won't be able to do any sort of supervision even if Australian users gamble using this website. There needs to be a middle path, which is acceptable for both the parties than the government imposing whatever they want on the gambling sites.

We need an Australian representative here. As it seems that gambling in Australia is in stone age. We already had here article about "complains about gambling ads", "offer to ban crypto cards usage in casinos". Now this ID requirement to prove that you are 18+. As if Australia and its government only recently discovered what gambling is and how this industry works. How this new system gonna work after all? 18 already - be my guest and spend all your money. Less than 18 - just wait a bit. Or, go online :D

The fact that the government is fighting against preventing minors from gambling is certainly good, but this needs to be done thoughtfully and using a competent approach. Although particularly cunning users will be able to deceive the system by posing as another person and will successfully undergo the KYC procedure. The government needs to seek advice from people who have more knowledge in this matter. If they limit at their own discretion, there is a risk of destroying this area completely, which will entail shadow business and a decrease in tax revenues.

Age monitoring is a mere excuse that they are making, the actual reason behind all this is something else. They have recently said that the country is losing a few billion dollars every year in online gambling or such activities, and they will try to reduce that amount as much as possible, and the best way to do that is definitely to either tighten the regulations or increase restrictions on gamblers, or the final way of eradicating the problem is to completely ban online gambling.

There have been quite a few things Australia has been doing in regards to online gambling, first announcing that online gambling ads will be banned, and now announcing new ID verification for online gamblers, and very soon, they might get straight to the point and announce that online gambling is illegal within the country.

These children will not think about the reputation of a casino because they just want to gamble and feel the thrill. But if they are experienced and know about the regulations and even KYC, they will look for a casino with a good gambling reputation. They can also identify those scam and reputable casinos so they can choose the right casino for them. And to verify their account they may ask for help or borrow an ID from an adult to verify their account. They will also deposit more later.

The children involvement into the gambling because purely to feel the thrill in the gambling game.The thrill giving factor was the attractive one in the gambling,So the children get into the gambling at their younger age using the id of their parents to play the game.Even though the gambling sites made the kyc compulsory,the children uses their parents kyc to play the game.Some children use their parents account to play the gambling.

Since that was Austalian government new law regarding gambling, everyone should comply. We can see here that Australia is one of the country that really active in doing their best to implement a healthy gambling. KYC sucks but people need to understand that it's necessary as a part of regulation.

I found it hassle to have that new ID requirements but for the sake of cooperating with the government, I will comply on that if our country will have the same regulation in the future. As long as it doesn't need a tremendous and crazy process, that should be fine.