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We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Exactly and bigger casinos do not ban people for winning,I know people at Stake who have won huge amounts in a consistent way at some time but that have lost big some other time,the casino knew that and they would be stupid to ban these type of persons.

If you don't break any rule even if you win a million dollar for big,well established and reputable casinos there is not the slightest problem to pay you.So before having strong evidence I agree with you,I usually don't take side with the gamblers who can be disgruntled from a certain treatment that the casino in total fairness have done to him.

I think gamblers knows how to read between the lines, I mean we can smell fellow gamblers if they broke a rule or doesn't tell the truth if they will accused online casinos, specially those who have established their reputations already. That's why he always says to give us some proof, like your betting or some form of communication from support.

So I do agree that we shouldn't take sides very easily and try to be as "fair" as we can before judging the casino or the gamblers themselves. For sure, reputable casino's wouldn't just put the hammer on a certain player unless they really have all the facts. The thing though is that they are not going to give out the details on how they arrived on that decision or how they know that certain players are just taking advantage and abusing their casinos.

You are right, there is always other side of the story. Casinos don't generally disclose that story because it can be used again on them for wrong doing. That being said if any casino has genuinely prevented a gambler because he was able make large amounts then it is bad for business. I think the casino should reveal the reason for such actions. They don't want a bad name in competitive business. They should clear the air and prevent this negative publicity if they haven't done anything wrong.

No one is perfect or should I say no system?, sometimes a casino can restrict their user due to technical issue or a misinterpretation and after they carryout more research they'll find that it was their fault and not that of the user.

But if you take a good look at the scam accusation board you'll notice that before anyone engage in a thread there the first thing that they do is to ask for evidence because someone can just come to the forum and claim that a casino or any other services here stole their money or cheated them, so without evidence their claim means nothing.

I have seen an user who created a scam accusation thread against bc.game because they were unable to withdraw a token that's meant to be used to test the casino incase you're skeptical about deposit,- so that's also an issue "users, not reading the terms or what's the catch for a bonus" and a when the result does not satisfy them they will start calling the casino a scam.

The problem that many gamblers have is that they do not bother to read the terms of service of the gambling sites that they are using to gamble. All they prefer to do is the lazy work by registering and gambling immediately without reading the ToS. They will violate one or some of the rules and they may be banned.

But some gambling sites too may use the privilege to cheat the gambler. If a gambler has two accounts and has not using any of the account to cheat, the gambling site supposed to only merge the accounts together, but if a gambling site ban both accounts, they have the right to do so, but that is cheating.

But the best is not to violate the ToS at all so that you will be able to avoid ban or restriction.

It is a fair point, I admit. It is true that any reputable casino and with enough budget will invest in fraud prevention and detection, to safeguard their own back.
But what are we supposed to think when a casino (perphaps one without a big bankroll, because they are new at business) decides to end bonuses and promotions to single users without a warning?

Granted, the gambler accepted the terms of services, so there is no much it can be done but move on. Still, the intentions of the casino are left to interpretation of the user and the public.

What you are talking about is fair hearing for both parties. It is not a nice thing to only hear one side to a dispute because one party might have been the cause of the dispute, that is why they say there is no smoke without fire.

In all fairness too, I believe must users here have been trying to lean towards the side of fair hearing when some newbie accounts open up an allegation thread against a casino especially those that we know that are reputable here and most times you find out that the complainants have not followed the ToS of the casino or have contravened other conditions leading to the casino taking a punishment action.

When allegations are brought against casinos here, most responses always want to be sure of the claims of the one sided story by asking for screenshots of conversation, screenshot of issues in question and other proofs to ascertain the claim of the complainants and most times require the casino to respond where the complainants seem to have a case but if the complainants doesn't have any case, the complaints are dismissed with the flip of the palm. So I think it is a balance report here between the gambler complainants and the casinos.

Till date, all the scam accusations against reputed sites, none have been genuine, because the genuine ones get settled properly. However these customers rarely come back to defend the casinos when the bullshit accusations come up. If you follow the scam accusations section carefully, anyone can realize this and come to the proper conclusion that most of the casinos are fair and try to pay their customers in case a problem arises and the player wins but is not paid out immediately or some glitch occurs.

A disgruntled player will often shift blame of their addiction on the casino, sucks to be them, I would say.

I quite agree with what you said that not everything that gamblers say regarding what they experience can be trusted. The casino platform certainly monitors all activities carried out by players and if it has the potential to cause losses to their business, it will definitely be dealt with. Moreover, the ToS at reputable casinos is quite clear and their professionalism is also very good, so their decisions have definitely been considered very carefully and everything has definitely been taken into account by the casino management, so that it doesn't damage their reputation.

A casino that provides efficient customer service, will provide the reason for not paying a member. Readers look into this, before taking sides. If I read such an article, its obligatory to observe the quality of support the casino gave the big winner. Casinos that stopped responding to the gambler after winning big, should be blamed. So, cases like this one, is getting too much and casinos are mostly blamed. Because some casinos are found guilty, many others will be seen as guilty, even when not. The question remains, why now? Subsequently, the player wagers money in the casino and wins, with zero problem of withdrawals. But, when he wins big, the casino begins their research on the player to know if he broke any rule. One way or another he did, and the money is denied off him. I think it's a bad conduct. If need to check up a casino member's activities arises, they should do that always or immediately.

To help the player understand better and stay clear from breaking rules. The casino need to issue those bans, even when they're not winning. Out of greed, some casinos enjoy the losses of the player, and fail to check if they're breaking any rule. That's where the problem of taking sides erupt. People are not nut. We read to uniquely understand a situation. When a casino is known for its quality attention to issues, a player is blamed for breaking rules by the community. Not all threads as such, have I seen the community blame only the casino. As they also use the casino and have not experienced such a back log. Question would be asked and if no sufficient answer is provided, the player or casino gets the bad review. Depending on their reaction to the problem. A player that takes advantage of the casino, will be penalized by the casino and nothing is wrong with it.  I think only few people take sides. If the number of people who take sides are higher, then the casinos are at fault.

I want to remind you that mistakes can happen even in reputable casinos and also happened in the past if you look at the scam accusation section.

But what differentiates the reputed casino and shit ones is if there is something happened due to a mistake from the casino they have to accept it and willing to revoke/refund/unban or whatever they are supposed to do and it also acts as a sign that the casino care about their reputation more than anything also there are others who try to cover up the situation by changing the terms after the incident happened and refuse to even address it damages their name.

Now in reality 95% of mistakes from the user side as far as I have seen but the gamblers can't accept their mistake and are willing to throw wild accusations against the casino which is mostly because due to the frustrations that arise from loss.

I'm sure those who do that are small casino sites that don't have enough money so they limit their players from betting and getting winnings also from bonuses, I also never side with anyone whether it's right or wrong everything must include valid evidence for example a screenshot to ensure that they are really limited, whether it's because he cheated or he really won every bet.

Anyone will definitely not take sides unless they are truly proven guilty and causing harm to one of the parties, of course they will be asked to take responsibility for clarifying this so that all problems can be resolved in an amicable way without having to damage the good name of the casino, I'm sure the big casinos won't do that. unless the casino states that the user is cheating. I think we all have to be fair too  ;)

Some of the reasons casinos ban gamblers are cheating, disorderly conduct, underage gambling, suspicion of money laundering, non-payment of debts and high-stake gambling in the case of some prominent gambling personalities. And you know that the higher the stake, the higher the probability of winning. So yea technically winning too much money can make a casino ban you.

I do not take sides with either the casinos or the player. I know that there are very terrible casinos out there that will bend the rules to their favour. It is a business so they must make profit at all means even at the expense of customers dissatisfaction. There are also gamblers who try to cheat the casinos to win. So I do not take sides.

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I’m not actually siding those gamblers who always tell that they were banned because they have always defeated the casino, although I know it’s also possible, but maybe there’s actually deeper reasons why they can’t bet anymore on that site. Let’s just say these casinos have been eyeing these particular gamblers if they have been doing fraudulent activities or they have been cheating all along. But whatever it is, a reputable casino will always be credible of its own actions so if they decide to ban that gambler, most likely he had been breaking the rules numerous times.

Those who ban players who constantly win are small casinos that cannot keep up with the payment, but are not on top or stable casinos, as long as they have funds coming and have funds in their coffers one example is Stake as long as you're not violating rules you can play and if you constantly win you'll get your payout.
Drake is one example of this he won a lot of money and gets all the money he won and there are hundreds of winners with huge amounts of money and they all get their payout.
If Drake won millions in a newly launched casino there's the possibility that they cannot keep up paying Drake.

Anyone believing on random user bad experience story about casino without any valid proof is surely need to think carefully. Scam accusation reports here needs substantial evidence before user should entertain it.

Although some user playing victim usually fabricates evidence that will work against casino since some forum user is very quick to judge especially those user that doesn’t like casino. Most of the scam report on Bitcointalk is just a fraud while only few is telling the truth but it’s very rare for casino especially those trusted already for a long time to commit mistakes on giving punishments to their customers.

Nobody can tell if the gambler has broken some rules or not, or maybe it was the casino that deprived him from withdrawal or ban the account for some flamzy excuses. That is why you see that evidence should be provided because I have seen a case whereby, the casino deprived withdrawal due to claiming that the user has two accounts registered on the casino, and the user said that he only has one account. I have also seen a case that the casino claimed that the gambler country was restricted but they registered, feposited and played a game and won, but when it comes to withdrawal, that was when they said this.

On the other hand, we know that some gamblers are always looking for a way to cheat a casino and they will come up with various kind of activities in the site that will make the casino notice them and will ban them. It is better to read ToS of the casino before registration and also make sure that you complete your KYC verification first, before you deposit any funds.

My friend once told me, he used to work at an online casino as an operator, he said that every user who bets was all controlled by the casino, so there was no way to break the rules or cheat, The casino will know about it, so I understand that there are many cases that occur after losing users who commit violations and in the end their accounts are frozen without explaining the reason, in fact they know that.

I think why gamblers who bet and win big have no problems with withdrawals, I'm sure because they play honestly without any violations, so think wisely before gambling and bet professionally, without having to act illegally.

Two sides of the coin. I believe that is true.
I haven't seen a guy yet who provided proof that he is indeed cheated by a reputable gambling site. (I did see some with not-so-known gambling sites.)
Well, the story goes like claims about winning big amounts and they will try to use social media as their means to scatter the news. But, people ain't idiots to not look for something that would prove it is true. That's the good part about people right now in the internet era, they already learned that somehow we can find some facts using the internet so they do their own research. Some may agree but many will try to find the truth first.

I am assuming only here, but I do believe it has always something to do with KYC. Some gamblers just don't understand the risk that is involved with gambling sites if they let a big amount of cash come in and out of their service. It can be a crime for money laundering and maybe worse so a gambling site must get the details of the one cashing out.
This ain't different with banks, they have a limit for cash outs and they will take your information and prove it before they let it go.

You can't always win when gambling. Gambling is a game of experience and accumulation. The more experience and knowledge you have, the more chances you have to win. Of course, I am a firm believer in beginner's luck and sometimes I have seen beginners get lucky. You probably don't have a chance to cheat in gambling, but the interesting part of the job is that we can play fraudulently. For example, for example, you will bet on a soccer match and a rate is given for each prediction. If some odds have been given in the past in the same way, we can say that this is actually the trick of the job in a way.

For the fact that we can't take one person side while judging such issues whenever their are brought here to avoid making one sided judgment,  that is why we most times request for members who want to make any complaint to add all the necessary evidence to back up they claims,  and any accusations or case without any pieces of evidence are discredited and treated as baseless.

So before we judge a casino,  the case should have been investigated and if possible casino should have made its own statement on the case and it will now be left for the public to decide with the facts available from both sides.

I'm guilty. I took the side of Dana because I'm a kissass.
I should have believed the guy was counting cards. If the story was true. I could really picture him dragged outside by the bouncers and thrown out landing on a muddy puddle.

In the other thread about the user who claimed he was restricted from playing certain game and claiming bonuses, maybe he did something like abuse. I wanna be on the casino side this time.  ;D

Exactly the point what i was making about claims of Dana White (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468659.msg62926483#msg62926483) 2 days ago.

It's the human nature to rather make yourself the victim, rather then identifying as a person who knowingly did a bad thing. For example everyone knows a person who has being sexually assaulted, but no one seems to have any perpetrators as friends, even though that not knowing any is statistically quite impossible.

Being a victim goes for some reason with the gambling as well, it's always everyone else to blame. Either casino has a glitch and you lose money or if you get kicked because of inappropriate behaviour, you are so shamed that you rather make up stories.

So we don't hear as much confessions of bad behavior as much as excuses and lies, and those are even easier to believe from someone you respect.

The gambler will know they loss huge money after the big money loss by the continuous game,till that he won’t do the releasing of the loss in the game.If the gambler who win and say his account get ban,ask him the gambling site name.You personally check that gambling site is real or fake.If the gambling site was good,two possibility of happening in your friends words.First he may do the lie to you,because you may ask loan for the benefit of yourself from the money he earned by their hard work.Second one is he get banned because of the wrong action against the site rules.

In most cases involving reputable casinos, the main reason why gamblers get banned is the suspicion by the house they are cheating. Sometimes it's not possible to prove with evidences, but strong suspicions are usually enough for the casino to have its verdict. Anyway, I think we shouldn't take any sides without having a clear understanding of the situation, because both sides involve human beings and where there are human beings, there are strong propensities to fraud, lies and manipulation of public opinion. Each case is one case and must be analyzed individually.

There's already a thread about that and my opinion is top casinos will not do that because the community thinks that they don't deserve to be in a top spot, top casinos have the funds for members' withdrawals because there is more money coming in if there's huge winning, there's a possibility that small casinos or newly launched casinos are the ones who are likely to restrict gamblers when they cannot keep with winners' withdrawals.
That's a big difference between playing in small casinos and big casinos, big casinos have a reputation to protect, and they need to sustain withdrawals instead of restricting them.

Many gamblers here who complain on the forum are later proven to be liars. I've seen dozens of these people over the years, but there are also legit cases like when a casino is trying to discourage a player from withdrawing by having enormous KYC requirements, almost impossible to complete without taking a lot of time and spending some money.
I wish gamblers were more honest when it's their fault.


If he's good enough to count cards, I'd applaud him. Not many people can do that.

And I think a reputable casino can definitely use various means to detect whether a gambler is cheating or a cheater and even if the casino gets information from other casinos, they will definitely do thorough research and monitoring of cheating or suspicious gamblers. And if the casino has strong suspicions then they have the right to make a decision because the casino does not want to be harmed by cheating.
and for that we also shouldn't believe in one of the two too easily until in the end we know who is actually wrong and right.

It is an SOP to verify the information and validity of the story before taking sides.  I agree that most people often tell a story where they had experienced injustice when in fact they are the one who is committing the breach of terms.  We have seen many of such stories here in the forum when a newbie account threw accusations of injustice to the casino because their account where banned or their fund withdrawals were suspended.  But when both sides of the story were given we found out that the one who has the accusation is actually the one who is committing illegal activities.

It is true that you need to hear the other side of the story before believing such. I do see that there have been stories that are against the casinos that I know of but then, I'll later on figure out that the mistake comes from the person that accuses these casinos. They're making false stories and want to be taken on the side of the majority, but in fact, they're the one that has made the violation or made the mistake. It's easy to make stories that will show how terrible are the casinos and will take the sentiments of the readers. But, without verifying if the story is real, that's how the process will go. So, do not take sides if the story isn't verified yet and you are not able to confirm that. From the time, you hear something is wrong with that casino and make it look like they're terrible enough but in your belief, there's an odd feeling that the story can't be real or right. Because when you hear them out and answers the accuser, you'll find it out that the accuser is the one that has done the terrible thing and he just want someone to be on his side for doing that wrong doing and violation against the casino.

I had already commented on this in the two threads I saw that talked about this subject, and as I said in those two threads, I don't really believe that casinos don't like people who play with a lot of money and win, that's because all casinos know a lot Well, at the end of the day people are losing more money at the casino than winning money at the casino, and even if a person won money at the casino that person would go back to playing at the casino using the same money they won at the casino and in the long term that person I would lose all my money at the casino. In other words, there is no point in winning a lot of money at the casino and continuing to play, because at the end of the day the person will lose everything.

The only way for people to really beat the house would be if they won a lot of money and never played a game of chance again, and see that this person would have to win an amount that exceeded all the losses they had since the first day they started gambling. play and many people don't realize that. They think that since they've won a lot, they're already beating the house, but they don't sit down and do the math on how much they've already lost in that casino. That's why I repeat myself again, casinos do not need to prohibit customers who bet with a lot of money, of course each casino has its maximum bets based on the money that the casino can pay out at most.

If gamblers break the rules, casino should punish them immediately and not wait until they start to win big for them to search and start reviewing if the gamblers have broken any rules in the past for them to use as a reason to ban them from playing. That is also bad. Punish offenders immediately, do not overlook the rules they break and allow them to continue to deposit money in the casino to play with, and when then start winning you remember their crime, that is bad.

most of the cases related to "big casino" are just people that have made some scam and try to to hide these reality with such allegations on forum . there are really few cases that have always been resolved since if a player has reason to highlight an issue, anyone has interest to close such issue.

Problems like these false claims are some of the importance of joining a forum like bitcoin talk. This platform gives both the casinos and gamblers the privilege of submitting their case and defending themselves. The scam accusation section in the forum is like a law court where each party will put forth pieces of evidence to prove their case. And the members of the forum will deliberate on the matter and come out with recommendations. Any party found guilty will receive the appropriate sanctions. From these proceedings, I have keenly observed that it is not all scam accusation against a casino that is true. Some are the fault of the gambler or they simply refused to read or obey the terms of service  

One who abide the rules means that he is wrong therefore he cannot accept the right way of earning. Believing others blindly is a big mistake in every situation may be its gambling or something else.

You will not tell a lie to anyone when you don't involved in gambling because neither you will abide the rules nor you will clarify yourself by telling lie to others. A person who is wrong will never believe that they are wrong but will show off that they are trustworthy person but the system is wrong therefore they leave that business but actual truth is unknown by follows.

In sportsbooks, it's common to see gamblers getting banned or limited because they win too much, but with casinos, you almost don't see it happen unless they catch you breaking the rules. I agree that the stuff we read from other gamblers should be taken less seriously because i've seen some of them explain their situation and make things sound like they've done nothing wrong until the casino steps in to explain their reason behind the punishment.

Unfortunately, it's the opposite since gamblers would do almost anything to get their money back even though they lost it fair and square.

You are also making assumptions and not first hand witness. You are not insider of the casino and you have not been banned so you are saying it from the probability point of view. And not real as well. Your trusted friend can disappoint you one day so you don't fully support him or her when did see what really happened between them, you can only speak your side and leave the rest so that when investigation came up you will still be a neutral man in the case.

In most time those things happen in the submitting process of KYC because they KYC is not clear or misinformation in the KYC documents and others. My argument on this casino. The gambler deposit funds successful to the casino wallet, and play games and win games, then he should be given his wins without stress. It is his money and not theirs so why the stress. Casinos are for business, so if a gambler wins big everytime, they will ban the person if they noticed him. Because is you have to loss for them to gain and pay workers so frequently winning would affect them be a big company or small company they will ban you. Or if they didn't ban you then they would manipulate the system for you and you will loss massively. Therefore, casinos ban gamblers account for many reasons and not necessarily that the gambler is always at fault.

I agree with you, banning winners from their casino is not a good business practice and will probably lead to some blowback. There are so many different review sites online of gambling websites that the news will spread quickly and this could ruin the brand name of the casino. Not sure why the number of people claiming to get banned from casinos rose so much in the last few weeks. It doesn't make any sense that there is now a higher number of winners than there was a few months ago. The casino games are still the same and our winning chance didn't change at all. Also, the casino have all the statistics, if there really would be a rise of people winning large sums of money then the casinos need to react. They are private companies that operate to make a profit, what includes to payout big winners from time to time. What I found so surprising is that why would a casino ban people from ever coming back to their tables? Wouldn't they want to win the money back they lost? The statistics are still on the side of the casino, with the house edge they are more likely to win next time the gambler plays. 

What do we perceive from the casino's perspective? Businesses run on profits, not wishes. Can we truly believe they're spotless? You mentioned, “Reputable casinos do their strong research...”, but who defines reputation? Do we agree on review websites that encourage casino trust? It's an interesting problem because the house always wins, right? Even though punters and they know it, we dance this everlasting dance. That's captivating. Electronic avatars, shimmering, jingling games, are trusted to be programmed fairly. But if you win too often in their digital halls, maybe they'll find a way to win back?

It's hard to find honest gamblers and casinos, both of whom may want what they want, namely money, so as long as the case includes screenshot evidence, it will definitely be enough to prove that the accused is guilty and the guilty must also provide strong evidence to dispel the accusation. the accuser, as long as everyone has evidence everyone will definitely side with one of them.

I personally don't really take sides with anyone unless the two of them are met with the evidence they include, maybe I will side with the one that is strongest, but in reality what we get is that no one is truly honest and open and has the same interest in getting money. The gambler will of course try as hard as possible to get his money, while the casino, apart from wanting the gambler's money, also on average cannot prove proof because of security. mostly it is the casino's reputation that deters honest gamblers  ;D

but I think some of the gamblers' opinions could be right, I mean the casinos feel they are strong and the words of an unclear gambler will not be listened to by other people.
unless the player who comes is a rich person who has the effect and power to say that.
I'll tell you one thing, if you are RIGHT but you don't have relationships and power then you can easily be said to be WRONG by those who have these things.

You're on the Internet, people are quick to judge here but that don't mean that people are invested too much on which side they think is bad or good, they just simply look at the surface and decide then and there which is not wrong but at the same time a bad practice. Now if there are evidence that can help the accuse solidify their claims, I don't think that it needs a lot of thinking power to choose which side plus anyone should be capable of critical thinking so don't be too overthinking that people taking sides for the heck of it.

Back to the original rule that the casino House will never lose. Even though there are claims from gamblers who say they win too often, it is clear that this is just nonsense. Even local casinos never say so to prohibit gamblers from winning, but does that really happen?
Casinos with well-known reputations take advantage of people like this with their influence and there is compensation that can be achieved by both parties. It doesn't matter if his followers gain or lose, because everything he gets comes from other people's losses.

We will not know whether the story is original or fake but it is clear, we only know that the casino as the business owner will not like it if there is a gambler who managed to win a lot of money. Casinos might not give them anything because the gambler can win it easily because of his luck. And that is normal because the casino wants to protect its business and avoid great losses. Besides, we can't do anything if the casino finally decides like that and only the rules. Indeed, the casino still allows us to play but we already feel uncomfortable playing gambling in Kasinon. And if that has happened, we can move to other casinos that can provide comfort in playing gambling.

I totally agree on this!
There are always different sides in every story. Before we make assumptions and accusations about something, let's try first to know every sides of the story because only taking one side will make you bias about your judgements. As far as I know, casinos are only banning gamblers who are winning constantly if by means of any cheating or fraudulent activities that is against their rules and regulations.
And yes, casinos can ask you to leave anytime because they have that power, but of course they will not order you to leave if you didn't do anything wrong. So the bottom line here is, casinos won't banned you without any reasons. Considering that every casinos have their own terms and regulations, and maybe you had violate something that you are not aware of.

As long as it does not significantly affect their business, they should not take any action against a gambler. However, if they believe that gambling is affecting their profits, banning may not be the solution; instead, it's only them limiting a certain gambler.


It's hard to take a side in this story, as it can never be transparent. Gaining public sympathy, most likely, people will side with the gambler. I'm emphasizing transparency because we, the public who would judge, may not be able to verify if the statement of a casino banning a gambler is true.

For example, what if they say a gambler broke the rules? Can they be transparent about what rules the gambler broke, and would they provide all the necessary evidence without putting their reputation at risk for violating customer's privacy?

I won't deny it, but maybe there are some casinos that do it. So far, we have only listened to the story and even discussed it several times. in my experience playing on various casino platforms, it is rare for big casinos to do things like that. What I said refers to my experience in various casinos, both land-based, fiat casinos and even crypto casinos which are our choice for now.

As for cases that have occurred, it is worth questioning the casino's reputation. and for the most part, only casinos that do not have a rating often commit fraudulent acts as in most cases experienced by members. Not only for big wins, there have even been several cases of casinos not paying their customers for their winnings, even on a small winning scale. That is why, it will be very important to determine our choice of playing at a trusted casino. has a high rating, is licensed, and has credibility that can be trusted, especially in terms of service when we make a complaint. That's why, I have a favorite casino that I trust and gives us comfort in terms of playing as well as withdrawing winning funds.

This is basically the major experience here in the forum because I have seen so many gamblers who often complain timelessly how they were banned or restricted of their winning and one of the Casino that have always fall victim of such complaints would be bc.game, the amount of complaints only that the company have received will let alone think that such complaints are actually real but a majority of these complaints are actually customer fault and they have failed to meet up with the rules of the company making them get punished one way or the other.

Lots of issues that had been thrown out lately and this one is included on which they do really have been experiencing those kind of restrictions because they are winning which we cant really be able to tell if its true or not.
Unless if these people or person would really be mentioning out the platform name then we could really be able to judge whether they are dealing with a legit or reputable site or not because one of the factors that would really be telling us that the situation might be true basing up on the platform on which they are playing because we know that not all things would really be blamed out to those people who do suffer some issues or bad experiences because there are actually platforms which does have that kind of shady act. If someone do really points out on a site which had been known to be that reputable or known for long time then it is likely
that those accusations might really be that ignored or would really be just simply be that rejected out by the community and assuming that complainant did really make out some violation which its true that it is really
that impossible that they would really be making out actions without having those possible reasons because they do know that one false move then it would really be costing up their reputation and this is something
that they wont really be easily on making up decisions unless if it was really truly proven.

We should hear both sides of the stories before take sides. But let's be honest here, gamblers will definitely take sides with their fellow gamblers and the casinos have no other option than to protect themselves whichever way they can.

Some gamblers behave quite unruly when they are at the casino and getting them banned is the safest and easiest way for them protect themselves just as you would to your business should someone try to act foolishly around your business premises.

I think those gamblers who get banned and come out to share their stories are those who know that they didn't break any of the casino rules. But those who are banned and can't say it because they know they were caught cheating or doing something against the casinos. They can't face the public because they know that they will be criticized heavily.

It depends on the level of the evidence present by the gambler to make their words right and validate and true accusations against the casino, that is why is very important to keep evidence of your activities at the casino at all times since the casino will definitely lock the account out once the hard a case against them.

That is why gamblers are expected to be proactive in their approach to things as they deal with the casino,  it is fair enough to keep screenshots and other possible evidence in case of rainy days like this so that the gambler can have evidence to fall back to in pursuing their case with casinos.

Some are just throwing accuse and some are just being ignorant of the issues. There are also times both are wrong such that if the player has violated something and the platform did not bother explaining it to the player. If both are showing proofs and are explaining oneself then it should be better to not take any side and let things be put into its place; communicate. A platform if it gives importance to its reputation will not simply allow it to be ruined by a single player hence they should make an action. A player on the other hand won’t stay quiet if the platform suddenly hold his/her funds without any warning or clarification. Taking side in this instance will just make the issue bigger as well as delay the solution.

I’ll tell you more: casinos are interested in having players who win a lot out of nothing. This does not change their average income in any way, but serves as the most effective advertising - after all, everyone will know about such cases. No one is interested when some millionaire wins a couple of millions making huge bets, but when an ordinary person hits the jackpot, it attracts attention.

It's a bit of a funny thing to me because, common, no one gets permanently banned for winning too much, very unethical behavior, which is nearly impossible for a reputable casino. Unless there's a casino that doesn't require you to pass KYC before gambling and you've probably won a huge amount, they could just ask for KYC before withdrawal, but to permanently ban the person when the rules are broken, it's rare to see such an act. It could be common with only casinos that were built with the intent to scam gamblers. Some gamblers just go along and use some non-popular casinos that end up locking them out of their accounts and don't even have quality customer support.

I see where you're coming from and honestly, I would've stood by your argument if not for the fact that more often than not, people who complain about a casino's practices/actions are most often right about it too.

As someone who knew customer service by heart, it's always imperative that you take the side of the complainant from the get-go. After all, these people won't call you everyday for the rest of their lives just to mess with you, they have a real issue that is needed to be addressed if not solved. After that, hear them out, check against the records if whether what they say is true or not. Check the documents your company provided you with for bylaws and ordinances they may have overlooked. Only by then will you have to inform them or recompense them.

This is the reason why I always advocate for casinos with stellar customer service. It's not about taking sides or whatnot, it's about letting them know that they are heard, they are understood, and that you are eager to help them or inform them of what's going on.

As for your case, sure. Believe them away still, it's the best way for them to spill the beans on their strategy anyway, which you can then tip off to the casino so they can issue fixes and patches that doesn't necessarily equate to the user getting banned.

Thing is, no one ever changes their minds after you call them a cocksucker, be nice and be sincere, it's the best way to get around people.

Well it's usually because of ToS or something that they get banned. Their being banned due to "winning too much" is probably either A, a misunderstanding, or B, just them wanting to brag but they know the real reason why they got banned. I myself have never experienced such issues/problems after all, so I reckon it's all on them instead of anything else in reality. There might be some casinos that do that though but without any real prior proof or the casino themselves (or an insider) being transparent about it, innocent till proven guilty.

You'd honestly find it hard to look for, not just gamblers but anyone who has received negative experiences to be completely honest about what they did. I mean look, even people lie to emergency medical staff to keep their pride, what more to random people on the internet.

As long as one of the parties provides efficient proof and valid arguments, I'll go side with that.

Sometimes, complaints lack evidence, so how come we can side with the gambler in that case?

Aside from that, reputable casinos won't just ruin their reputation without providing their side of the issue. If they were able to provide a solid stand against those complaints and issues, they would be the winner here. On the other hand, if the gambler able to provide several proofs about their complaints on the site, the community might backed the gambler up.

You can't also ignore the fact that there are casinos who are trying to do the best they can to prevent people from winning too much. That's also a fact that is hard to deny. Though you are right, there are people who are trying to cheat the system to beat the casino, and they don't go unpunished especially if the time comes that they won so much that the casino can now take action to restrict their accounts.

It's always good to exercise fair judgment by seeing the facts first. So far, I think no one here jumps on the casinos on the first chance they get. They wait for evidences first before giving their inputs against the platform.

I agree with you that no one should believe in stories that they hear from someone if it's just one-sided and there isn't strong evidence to back the statements being made. However, I'm not ready to believe that things like these don't happen and even if a casino is reputable or has a lot of trust in the community, they will still at least take some action if they see that a gambler is winning way more than they should and it might be affecting them.

So, casinos are not really that decent when it comes to giving away profits to gamblers because they might be losing money themselves and that isn't good for their business. That being said, you are right that one shouldn't take sides for a one-sided story and should ask for some evidence when someone blames a casino.

Gamblers will always stray from the path as a result of their frantic desire for earning monetary resources. I've learned to thoroughly understand the expectations of my decisions; we should do our best to follow the terms and conditions of these casinos because when they find one gambler out of line, it will almost certainly result in permanent bans of his account; despite being their customer, they don't care; all they care about is maintaining a streak of disciplinary measures in order to keep the casino running. When it comes to gambling, we all have various ideas and viewpoints. Don't be too fast to criticize because one may be unaware of how the system works, and obnoxious players always employ criminal assistance.

Things like that can happen in casinos because if the situation were to reverse and we were casino owners, we would not be happy if there were one or several gamblers who could win continuously. We will prohibit them from following or participating in the programs we hold at our casino, especially if they win more often. And if there are stories like that, we can only follow them and hopefully, it doesn't happen to us, especially if we can win a lot of money so that we can still participate in the promotions run by the casino.

Indeed, it is not good for the casino to make a ban like that, but gamblers have another option, which is looking for a different casino. And incidents like that can happen so we have to be able to understand them.

Hmm, it sounds right but I still don't believe that every stories are lies, some casinos will rob shit on your face and tell the world they did it, like you can't hold them against anything, they have the right, that's casinos that don't care about their customers and reputations, I view such casinos as short term business, it's a proof that they don't plan on running the business for a long period of time.

My answer is not side is pure, some do good with their customers even if they win millions from their casinos and some will ban you after winning, I don't like the sound of it either but this problem will easily occur on a new casino or a casino that's struggling, that's why popular casinos are better.

I really wish that casinos can come out and start defending themselves, this will stop many people from using wrong accusations on online casinos, some are intentionally doing it because they lost a lot of money and they also knew that the casinos won't come out to defend themselves because they don't just have the time.

True. Not every victim is innocent. Sometimes they are unknowingly break the ToS of the casino and then they claim they didn’t do any wrongdoings. They aren’t lying since they don’t know what offense they committed. Sometimes on the other hand, they just lie because it is easier to blame somebody else for his own mistakes. It is just human nature. People don’t like to take responsibility for their own actions sometimes. Even murderers do this because if they come up with a story that’s good enough, the judge might believe that it was self-defense.

It doesn't even make sense when gambler and the underlying platform fight for difference but of course, if there is money involved, evidence must be provided. However, don't understand why the forum casinos don't like to show evidence or proof of what happened, at least it will help the judges(DT in the Forum) to make decisions, if it was the user that is guilty or the casino but they don't provide anything and for that, to remain neutral, I better give my small opinion but wouldn't meddle with what I don't have power over.

As a top tier casino that has used forum ads, they should know better that when in Rome, you have to act like you're in Rome. They should always provide evidence when it's needed and to avoid stories that touch, I don't like some of the casinos we have in this forum, I used the few I trust and hasn't been called out and even when they are called out, they are just minor issues which understanding term are reach to keep reputation for their customers.

I think both the casinos and gamblers have their fair share of malpractice. Casinos might use manipulative tactics to keep players hooked, while some gamblers might attempt to cheat to win. It just depends on the number of people who’ll believe either side of the story, whic can be manipulated too! In the end, both are still inbthe game because both wants money. But then, research is so important. Let’s not normalize passing unverified stories and when you know you are on the right side, be firm about it. Not because many believe or do the wrong thing does not mean it is right.

When the victim tends to say that they've been abused and they've been done wrong by the casino, the belief of everyone is on them because they're only telling one side of their stories. They won't admit what they did wrong to make it look like the problem is from the casino.

On the other side, the casinos will just tell what's the cause of the actions and decisions they've placed to that complaining user.

It's always good to ask the both side of the stories and just keep yourself neutral until your assessment is clear on which side you want to make. Just keep yourself open to any thoughts and possibilities before taking someone's side.

In the case of casino, most complaints have violated the rules before they get a ban from the casino. In the case of crime, the judge may know that the accused is lying I might till have mercy on the person not to give very hard judgement or punishment but casinos protect their image and will hardly go back from the ban because they don't want to lose money from the player again. In casino business, it is between the player and the casino and so it is more serious, if the gambler gets a ban it means they have done some cheating against them. I understand your but though but we need to be sure that the player who is complaining is fair enough before complaining.

There's a lot of post like that here and it's hard to accept the allegation instantly about the casino banning them. For sure there's a reason why the casino banned them especially if it came from a well known reputable casino. This is why it is important to have a active casino representative here to share their sides about the incident. We need the other side of the story to prove who is right and who is wrong depending on the reasons and proofs of both sides. There are casinos before who mistakenly banned gamblers and casinos who banned them for no exact reason, the allegations we seen before are also the same, just to tarnish the image of the casino.

Both parties had proof and reason = easy to find out who we need to side.

Gamblers are taught how to be wise but we all know that the casino itself is much wiser than its players. That's why if some gamblers accuse the casino for being not fair to their rules because they were being banned, I think the casino itself has its own valid reason why they do such banning. It's either these players create injustice to their games, or they are just irresponsible gamblers who don't know how to respect their rules and still act as if they were the victims. So every side has its own story, but as far as I know, a reputable casino won't waste its time doing things that will certainly ruin their reputation that they have built for a very long time.

There's always just one reason for it. You took the risk, that's why its a gamble.
But sometimes gamblers are looking for the RTP. They just want to experience the gambling site giving back to them what is for them.
What if for a month you are always in red? Hatred will probably build up and a gambler will say he is being robbed which I do understand after playing the games for quite some time. It's truly a robbery in disguise. The motto of "the house will always win" is real. We cannot win against them and the only perks we have is the bonuses that will be given.
I didn't really mind gamblers who say they were robbed back then until I myself have witnessed it. We should be wise on when to get out because the chances of the gambling site trying to get all back the winnings is high.

I think that most people who cheat and get caught, only to later come here on this forum to complain about/accuse the online gambling casino of scamming them are people who cannot hold themselves to a personal standard of honor and justice. But casinos also have made mistakes in the past and they need to be held accountable. So we should not judge before we have all the facts and all the evidence. Only after investigating objectively, we can make an honest assumption of what really transpired between the gambler and the casino.

We are not arbiters but the casinos should know not to disrespect their gamblers or any connected communities. Not only are they a major source of new gamblers but also a major source of new ideas. That alone deserves respect. And if the casinos decide to openly disrespect their community, then they should suffer the consequences.

For them its a business, for us it is community entertainment.

Gambling on casinos is like a war between the player and the house. Anything can happen, It's either we win or lose. Not just in the game, but with our arguments with the casino. The story is weighed on the provided legitimate evidence, in court. In places like a gambling forum, such stories can be manipulated by the player or the casino representative. Who wish to do a good job to cover for their reputation. People can't lie often without making mistakes. Even if they do it perfectly in one case, they could fail on another. When the casino and the player explains the cause of their problem or dispute. The community will evaluate it and side who's saying what sounds like the truth. Because, we're evaluating a case involving whooping amount of money, the both parties must be present. In most threads, the casino rep wouldn't show up to clear the air. How then do you expect members to evaluate the problem. They'll easily believe the player with his evidence. Whether manipulated or not. Though he may not be funded or refunded by the casino, but the reputation it costs them will mean a lot. It is the responsibility of the casino to watch any reputation thread concerning them, to always defend themselves. Nobody will believe the casino if the player is saying the truth and vice versa.

Hence, if a victim unknowingly boycotts the TOS of a casino, nobody will side them. It's the player's fault. Yet to some extent, like my previous response said; why right about now? after winning big. Once the casino agrees with the player's evidence that he won big. Then got denied of his winning, for breaking some TOS. The interpretation is clear. The casino punished him because he won big. A good number of critics will see to it that way. That's why most a times, the player wins the case. On the other flip, if a player losses serially and got banned, such cases doesn't appear anywhere. Hope that stairs a reasonable argument, that's why sometimes the casino go Scot free too. Like I said earlier, it's a both sided fight. While some follow the story line of the casino as the truth, others will definitely believe the player. Whoever, however, whenever, wins the fight goes home victorious.

We see a lot of stories like that, but when representatives from the casino start to answer all the accusations, finally everything starts to become clear, it is difficult to admit a mistake, especially if it was something that was done intentionally by outsmarting the betting site.
I agree that betting sites will not ban user accounts without a clear reason and if this is done without a reason then it is clear that the betting site is a site for cheating because we see this also exists in the world of gambling, as is done by one of the betting sites in this forum has a lot of unresolved complaints, but they still get new players and these players end up having an unpleasant situation where their funds cannot be withdrawn.

Well, when it comes to doing things in the casinos there are usually a lot of problems, there are always the usual trolls that you don't know how to deal with them, where the best thing is to criticize them, those who really make mistakes in the casinos and that violate the rules and are drooled, but I have rarely seen casinos that retract due to their wrong behavior with the players, at the time, in these cases you seem quite strange to me, because the casinos always have many methods of defense Personally, some only make themselves known so that they can do other types of things, first, a person believes that they will always be right, second, if there is a vulnerability or something that a player has committed, well sometimes the It's not the player's fault, it's the casino's own fault for allowing these things, the programming is intended for this, there is a case where they talked about a player on Rollbit where they banned him and the truth is I don't know the reason why they banned him, because According to the case, for me the player did nothing wrong, I don't know if the casino's vulnerabilities include the fact that he didn't comply with a KYC and yet they let him pass and things went wrong but for the player. It seems that he didn't appreciate it at all either, so sometimes the casinos take such strange initiatives, that I really don't know where the mistake was, or the infraction that the casino discovered.


There are also many times that some players stick with a casino to hurt them and invent certain situations to get money from them, and when they do it, they have no proof or screenshots, so that is something very empty, and it is usually done by someone with new accounts, then things don't work like that for new accounts, you may be a novice exposing the topic, but you must know how to do it, that is, with its corresponding tests, such as showing the tests , screenshots , and everything necessary to being able to know what can be deferred to or not.

I always believe that in every situation, there’s always two sides of the story. And if the gambler has accuse the casino, that’s when I start thinking that there’s also something wrong with this gambler why the casino has banned him or restricted his account that he won’t be able to bet again. I don’t consider the gambler’s side, nor the casino’s side. But one thing is certain, the casino won’t easily end up with its final decision if the gambler has never commit a mistake or has never break a rule in the first place.

The gambler was mostly try to get the win from the game,but the probability of winning from the gambling is very low.The gambler with experience will know the gambling win was based on the luck of the gambler.The gambler may wish to earn more money from the gambling win,but every win had their own dedication by the gambler and practise in the game.The gambler with the responsibility will consider the gambling as their fun based game.They never take the gambling as the source of income.

Gamblers have given the freedom to say what’s in their mind, and if they think they are being cheated or the casino games have been rigged, they will surely voice out everything to call the attention of the casino. But we also know reputable casinos are smarter enough to manage all these accusations especially if those gamblers are the ones at fault. And I believe before the casino resort into banning this certain gambler, most especially if it’s a long time gambler in their casino, they have researched well already and found out everything the wrong behaviors of the gambler.

You must be a beginner, if you don't know that because it's a well known fact in the gambling industry bro, casinos are profit-oriented businesses, and very skilled or lucky players can pose financial risks to them. So they limit or ban such players to protect their profits. It's rare for (online) casino games gamblers but it's very common for sport bettors. Actually, if casinos/sportsbooks were as fair and honest as you claim, they would write explicitly in their terms and conditions that they don't ban or restrict account of winners, or they would at least tell it in their advertisements, but that's not the case, their ToS are mostly vague on that matter letting them doing it without saying it explicitly to avoid bad reputation.
Telling this kind of things here, in the gambling section it's advocating for scammy and dishonest platforms and defaming victims, so I would be careful if I was you because some DT members could give you a red tag for that.

Op you are at right track because for a gambling platform to block someone account that means that person most have broken the rules and regulations of the gambling platform, because I know very well that gambling platform have to do with instructions especially casinos, like some people do not like verify their account before depositing or withdrawing a platform of casino as it is being instructed by the platform, so this is one of the issues that may cause issues for a casino platform to block an account of their patronize, let us try to admit to gamble rules and regulations because the site is owned by someone.

A reader should be neutral in his feelings when taking sides.  One should take both facts without any kind of bias feeling and see through the evidences objectively.  If one become subjective then taking sides will become biased and may lead us to support the one who is doing the wrong and illegal activity.

If we are biased inclined to one party, then any evidence provided by the other party will be worthless because we alredy have decided who to take side with even before we saw the presented evidence of the case.


True that, this is the reason why have the need to listen to the other side of the story since most people that tells their story in a dispute only reveal the information that is favorable to them, they might even twist some fact to justify their claim.

Indeed, if a person fails to verify their account, while wagering money on a casino. Definitely, to reduce money laundering, they'll be asked for KYC, during withdrawal. It's always important to read their TOS and endeavor not to break any. Gambling platforms are not decentralized and most times the owner can get tricky on players too. What if the owner is breaking the TOS he made? as it seems that they make the rules to break it on big winners. The complaints we read about the actions of gambling admins to big players doesn't sit well. Breaking a rule out of many, doesn't guarantee treating a player like he's not a customer outside the platform. Despite being banned he has the privilege to be attended to properly regarding why he's been banned.  Especially, when he just won big amount. Yes, it's boldly written on their tos, about the implication of breaking rules. Yet a player can appeal to get paid by the casino. There are multiple questionable reasons why a person can be banned from any casino. But the player, whose account got removed, while feeling cheated needs some explanation and most crucially their funds. You see how the issue escalate. Many big rollers have lost hundreds of thousands in gambling, due to ban. Is it how casinos make extra income? Some jackpots when paid can run down the casino. New casinos, if they pay a player the huge amount worth their winning, can easily go bankrupt. The owner of the casino would say hell no, and find faults. A casino who doesn't want to go bankrupt, doesn't care about whatever the player does to get back to them. Which originates the ill treatment transferred to the player. By ignoring them. The player on his end desperately needs the money. Who amongst them will you side? I'm going for or with the player. Additionally, these TOS are too large to read and we may not notice, when a quick change appears on the rules. Casino owners can be shady. To some extent playing with aged casinos is being advised. Because new casinos, can fail their player to save the business. It all gets complicated as it goes.

In the gambling industry, we know that it is not talked about that we have to be smart to win big money in the casino or whatever. Because there is probably no casino, they will build a gambling business without knowing what they are getting into. All its owners can be said to be smart and not allow players who gamble on their platform to defeat them.

Now, if there are other players who file a complaint because their account is banned, there are only two reasons: first, the gamblers don't know all the policies, and second, the gambling platform just doesn't want to do what the complaining gambler wants to happen.

The gambling industry had the big win to their gambler in one day,but the gambler should ready to face the small losses in the game till the big win.It doesn't mean,the people who get continuous loss in the gambling will made their big win one day.The fact is anyone can win the gambling big win by their good luck in the gambling.The gambler who report of ban of account is mostly due to the mistake made by the gambler.So the gambler can’t say the ban by the gambling site because of the big win on the gambling site until he prove to us.

If it's properly explained by the casino, then they can slap the face of those who complaint against them.

If it's properly explained by the gambler, then the community will side to them and will wait for the casino response.

Of course, we don't want to take side right away without knowing both parties side.

Yes, I agree with you.
I myself have read several posts about this and even commented on some of them, but I have never taken sides on a position in favor of the player or the site.
What I did in all the discussions I participated in was to express my opinion on some problems that really exist in casinos with a low reputation or otherwise unknown, as well as presenting possible solutions to resolve the problem in casinos that have a reputation.
Many casinos we respect have an exclusive topic here on bitcointalk, nothing better than exposing the problem publicly, so that the site itself can also present its contrary evidence, if the accusation is untrue.
Someone will probably leave with their reputation damaged.

But we also must remember that no business owner likes one person to win more often than another. Business owners may issue new rules for those who often win a lot of money and replace them with old rules. And the casino can get the data easily because the gamblers gamble at the casino, where the casino can always find out who can win a lot of money and more often than other gamblers. We will never know unless we experience it ourselves. Then we can decide what to do. And in this case, someone was right to move to another casino because he felt the casino's service had let him down.

Should also look to do the opposite, its a common phenomena on the internet that people are very vocal about any negatives but fail or forget to praise the common positive experience with any casino.  Especially long term, people take it for granted when a site is solid and reliable etc.  which is definitely worth praise. 
  The good sites will make a profit off just operating a long term gambling site, gambling is a profitable enterprise so a good reputation is important and regular traffic because that definitely leads to profits with that body of regular users.   It should be outside the norm for players not to be respected who are wanting to play normally.

For those people who have a limited thought, yes. There are also people who experience the negatives only or mostly the negatives during the time they play gambling so they curse gambling just like that. We shouldn't feel bad yet because there are also people who are the exact opposite of them.

It's like they are biased and say that gambling is beneficial when the truth is they also lose a lot and sometimes get addicted on it. Gambling is about losing and winning so the view of the people should be balanced only. That will show that their mental state is still healthy and there is no need to worry about their gambling activities.

This whole situation is aggravated by the fact that we are in the world of cryptocurrencies, and this world is inextricably linked with anonymity. We have already seen a lot of scam: profiles of non-real people on the web, which were created in order for everything to be put there in their projects, and then they disappeared. Unfortunately, this is the dark side of freedom in the world of cryptocurrencies.
Therefore, I prefer not to believe everything I read, both here on the forum, and especially in the news of influencers.

Most gamblers who get banned resulting from their misconducts but probably have a history of good wins in serial oder most likely tell the story that they got banned because they won too much and of course as rightly stated by you(OP) the other side of the story which have to do with violation of the set rules and guidelines is kept back so as to gain public attention that they were unjustly banned.

But then we we get stories like this it's right we wait to get the full details of what actually happened and know were the person making the report went wrong before taking sides and passing judgements, because even the casinos and betting site know that if they should bann a client on such basis which can not be justified then they will be faced with heat from the public which is not good for business.

So Gamblers should be cautious and careful enough to read instructions if possible in-between lines so as not to violate the rules and when been punished they result to gathering public pity, most gambling sites are been regulated in their jurisdiction so they wouldn't want to be reported for such, only that most gamblers wait till they get a win and when they have issues with withdrawal they then go back to the rules which they were supposed to read earlier and think the site is a bad one, this occurs mostly with wagered bonuses.

Casinos who have gone scam have been scam from the beginning, they got caught eventually and then the sufferers are the ones who were playing on it. Thing is that you should stick to well-repuated and old casinos before jumping into new ones. With so many of them coming up who is going to certify something as genuine or not? The forum cryptographers who are tech-savvy and are well versed with provably fair systems can help you decide in this regard.

Genuine casinos will ban users who try to exploit or cheat the system. There is nothing wrong in this and all such cases the casino gets public support.

The news of influencers should never be taken at face value, heck anything that you see or hear should be questioned and observed before accepting.

You are correct, I support this point to the core, people come out in the open to say things about online casinos and I have been into gambling for months now, so far I have no single issue and I am like where are this people getting all their complains from and why? I was doing some live treaming with my friends some weeks back and a friend wasn't online for like two weeks and when he came online he used a new identity, meaning he created a new account, we asked him what went wrong he said his account was block.

Later I asked him what really happened he said he didn't know and I checked his phone out and detected that he broke some rules himself, he tried to crack the companies software, and I was shocked, not until I caught him that's when he decided to tell the truth, he finally admitted that he did something wrong for them to blocked his account.

As in, be careful who you decide to back up, or you both will be blame at last, not all what people say are truth and I haven't seen where online casinos fight back when they are wrongly accused, it's always the victim, I am not saying all casinos are pure and reliable, but most people are just playing victim, they are mad for getting caught and dealt with so they decide to ruin the casinos reputation, be careful who you fight for, this is reality.

It's pretty easy to figure out if a user is telling the truth or not. Just take a good look at the reputation of the casino. If a casino has a solid reputation, we'd naturally lean towards believing them over a gambler making negative claims about the casino. Of course, this changes if the gambler can actually provide some solid proof of their accusations.

Casinos that have already built a strong reputation have a lot to lose, so they're more likely to be credible compared to someone throwing negative stories at them. Now, if you start hearing the same story from multiple gamblers, well, that's when things get a bit alarming. But until that happens, casinos keep their reputation intact.

Doesnt matter whether we do believe or not, it would really be just becoming a big issue on the time that there are really solid proofs that had been presented on the said complainant but if there's none and its just pure verbal then the community wont really be just making out some conclusions on the said casino to be shady or having that kind of doing.Its true that businesses something like this wont really be just that easily to believe on.Its true that businesses like this wont really be just making those kind of banning or blocking someone without having those valid reasons which most likely it would really be that talking about violation unless if you are dealing with known scam sites then its not shocking anymore.

The community wont really be that dumb on not to know on whats the truth but people on here dont really easily believe into those issues been thrown unless if there would really be
proofs that been provided but if there's not then the community wont really be taking it seriously and would really be just that be treated as baseless accusation.
We cant really just easily believe on what these people would be telling.

Agree on your statement. Most of the casino that scamming using are just new or recently just established and later on decided to turn into scam like what happened to betnomi before. Proof on scam accusation board is very rare to become valid in every scam accusation in there since most of the scammer manipulate the evidence just to look like it’s a legit concern.

Casino earn a lot of profit by just having tons of players on the casino. Scamming few user with minimal amount doesn’t make sense for them since they can recover it easily on other losing players money.

You told the harsh truth there. Casinos that have lied to you? They've probably been sketchy from the start. Its like a time bomb thats just waiting for the right moment to go off. Now you said to stick to casinos with good names, and I totally agree. Its hard to find your way around with all these new casinos opening all the time. And who is our safety net in this mess? They are the tech-savvy cryptographers. But isnt it a bit of a problem to depend so much on a small group of people?

Whats the point of real casinos not letting exploiters in? Right on! They're just making sure that their method stays safe. Thats right, the web of social media is full of leaders! Always question things and never completely trust them. Like a game that never ends, every move needs to be carefully thought out. After all, being able to tell the difference becomes important in a world full of noise.

In my years in the crypto space, I have never seen a reputable casino in the crypto business that banned their users for no reason, not because they didn't want to give away the big winnings. Maybe that's even possible for casinos that haven't been in this business industry for a long time.

Because of the casinos that have a solid reputation, like Stakes, Duelbits, Rollbit, and others, I have never seen them do something that would damage them. If anyone has complained about the above, their accusations have not been proven here. That means, as you mentioned, it is impossible for them not to see cheating gamblers being exploited on their gambling platform. So far, the ones I mentioned can stand by their rules and policies.

I've come to notice something that many of us have been ignorant of when it comes to gamblers and some of the fairytale stories they tell about some Casino companies.
Some of them who does come up with the stories of Casino companies banning them after huge winnings aren't factual with those stories. They lie to people around them in attempt to cover up after losing a lot of their money. They tell these lies in other not for people to see them as senseless people who's lost all their money in casinos. So before you think ill of any casino company they told you banned them, try to find out if their claims are true.

Many gamblers have the experience of getting banned and the next thing that comes to their mind was the injustice from the gambling platform, they wouldn't want to pay attention to the areas where they are also missing out, all the wrong steps they have also taken and the rate of what they have done in violation of their rules, all they will be shouting is for being banned, the casino is scam and they go ahead to report for scam accusation without mentioning their own side at fault.

Correct. Today I watched a YouTube video where someone a gambler was teaching his he was with positive ev and gambling and how to use it to their advantage. One of the comments I read said that he used the positive EV strategy and won about 10,000 dollars from the sports betting website after which he was banned. This goes to show that even when a casino bans a player for winning a lot of money it may be that the player used a format to try to cheat the system and was caught therefore the ban. Both side are sometimes not unguiilty.

Their are lot of the YouTube video to teach us about the gambling games.Some YouTuber will play the game in the live to tech the new gamblers,but some of them are doing this for the views and most of them will do this for the paid users of their channel.The paid users will get advantage in such YouTube channel,because the you tuber will get the money from the views and from the channel paid users.This also look like the additional income for the gamblers who engaged in the YouTube.If the gambler are ready to spend time on the YouTube can also earn from the YouTube by participating the game and online teaching in you tube.

If a gambler is playing at reputed gambling sites then there is no way that he will get banned on the site because he is winning large amount of money. I think most of you would have known that there are gamblers at stake.com who win huge amount of money and it is also known to the public. Good and real gaming sites will never ban any gamblers on the winnings and they will let them withdraw what ever they win.

I think gamblers try to find ways and put blame on the gamblings site that they ban them because of the winnings but instead the story is different. Most probably the gamblers may have violated the terms and condition of the casinos like they could have use the VPN , access the gamblin sites from a prohibited location or there can be multiple reasons for the gambler account ban.

Wrongly blaming the gambling sites will not help the gambler cases and the gambling account won't be unbanned so I don't know why the gamblers tell a lie about all this stuff.

It's easy for you to cast them but believe me, if you are once in that position, you will react the same because when your money got stuck in a place, to think normal is hard and that's why you see them behave in that manner. The cases I have seen here though is usually personal and I don't know why gamblers do that, I have seen a gambler has problems with my the gambling signature on my profile and when they have problems with them, they troll their announcement thread.

There was this guy that was trolling even the manager, had to call me names for been nice to the Manager for giving me slot, the fun of it is that some reputable guys picked his side, don't know why they did that but it definitely had to do with the company and the teams because even after putting evidence on the forum of what he did which broke their terms and agreement, he didn't stopped. Probably maybe the other two guys that were in support were victims back then and were getting revenge. It's sad though because I will react the same way but there are ways in which things can be settle amicably.

Casinos and online casinos already differ, but online casinos and crypto casinos are like a different breed, which is why I often take the side of the gambler in these complaints, as long as the gambler is open about the situation and doesn't try to hide anything.
I've never seen so many cases of casinos trying to deliberately delay payments to players because they suddenly woke up and decided they need to KYC a player that has been playing there for months.
This doesn't happen in fiat casinos and it should already give you something to think about.
Each case is different though, so I hope you won't judge people before you get to know the whole story.

There are few cases of people who cheated and came to complain on the forum, this is because the first thing that happens when someone comes to complain about a casino on this forum, is that people ask the guy who is complaining to post proof, without proof no one believes the person who is complaining about a casino. Therefore, the number of people who complain about casinos are, most of the time, people who are right, and it is enough to see that in cases of scam accusations against casinos,

Most cases involve new casinos and when I talk about new casinos I am referring to casinos that were created 2 years ago, this is because many of these new casinos have created TOS precisely to serve as weapons to prevent their customers from being able to make withdrawals. It's sad to see people begging for casino support to respond to them, months without the casino resolving their problem and meanwhile the same casino that has many accusations of scam continues to operate normally. I don't understand how some people can have the courage to stay using scam casinos. They leave good casinos like stake and use new casinos that have strange rules and then withhold funds from customers

Over the years that I have been on this forum, there have been few cases in which there has been someone who has accused a casino of cheating, so when you see accusations of scam against a casino, know that the chances of the casino being right are low. , and the chances of the person complaining are very high that he is correct. Unfortunately, this is the scenario we have.

And what you say is true, in fact, to be honest, I am not interested in watching channels of content creators who make gambling videos, tricks, tips, and so on. whether live or regular video, most of the goals are nothing more than what you say. nothing else, most of them only do it to get paid from the audience. moreover, those who provide dirty tricks, and all kinds of things. usually, in reality it is only part of what they have engineered. Even though I don't want to say everything, most of it is like that. with the exception of videos that provide tutorials on the initial stages of how to bet on certain games.
Even so, they also want to get paid from the audience. even though in reality, there is nothing wrong with what they do. The most important thing is not to violate the ToS of the platform they use, let alone violate the law.

As for the violations or abuses committed by some gamblers, as a result of which the casino prohibits them, practices like that are not something strange to hear. by blaming the casino for not paying out their winnings on the pretext of always winning, but usually it is the gamblers who cheat. although this is not the case in every case, because there are also rogue casinos. That's why, choosing a trusted casino that has a high reputation and credibility is a must for our comfort.

so if I understand what you mean supposing the individual comes with the same story about a small casino it should have been an allegation that is said to be true because it concerns a small casino. In this I'll say we're still going circles about the subject if we construct my viewpoint in this way. It is true we have some fraudulent, cheating and non policy abiding gamblers  and as humans we don't like to accept blames in a matter we're in the wrong , there's usually this defensive explanation mechanism in humans.

however if we assume all lodged  cases relating to ban due to too much winnings as a story not to be given attention but to discard it even before it landed then we will in that might as well discard genuinely lodged cases of that nature without knowing. That's is why it's rational to give give attention to them all but not to jump into conclusion immediately until an unbiased investigation is made and the truth discovered. You can call it a fair hearing.

A very common human being behavior on which you would really be having that kind of defensive mechanism on the time that you had been losing that much and there's really a time that you would really be throwing those baseless accusations into the public but just like on what we do know that the community wont really be that conclusive or easily to believe on what that certain person is been saying.
Yes, we do know that frustrations and anger could really be leading up with that kind of impulsive words to be thrown around but without sufficient proofs or whatsoever that would really that justify about your
claims then it wont really be taken up seriously and this is always been that the case. Taking sides are most likely to be done on the time that the community do really be able to see that those proofs are solid
and legit.

We've seen tons of issues that had been written into this forum and there's real and most of them are just fake or simply you do able to tell that its reall fake and just for the purpose on
tainting out other competitors business then probabilities is really there which it turns out to be that an ordinary day if there's some complains and negative words
that been thrown out into someone.

To find out who the gambler or casino is actually cheating is not easy. However, I am more convinced that the majority of cases occur because gamblers cheat so that their accounts are suspended or banned. There are many patterns that gamblers can use to cheat, one of which is abusing bonuses, wager, or multiple accounts.

The best way to judge who actually cheated is to present supporting evidence. Maybe that's all we can do to know who is right and who is wrong. The ones who know best what happened are themselves

Taking side in or truly believing what an individual says in a scenario like this is the last thing I can ever advise any gambler to do without making proper research or hearing from both parties involved. So I totally agree with you on what you just said, and as such, I will like to put to your notice that gone are those days when people could hope of by-passing casinos, as with the help of technology, its now hard to be able to try to bypass the system without getting caught.

No! I don't usually take sides even in real life situations. There will always be two sides of the story and listening to one side would be a bias one and that where we judge based on what we hear and see. Behind the scenes specifically in gambling makes no different with it. I remember I watched someones vlog on YouTube about someone he is helping recover from gambling addiction that cost his entire wealth to vanish it was more or less $6.2M that's what the guy told him but soon discover that it was all a lie. The said YouTuber gave the liar all his needs and even gave him small capital to start a business but everything was gone after figuring out the truth. This is a good example of this, as we don't really know the truth behind stories so be aware before taking sides.

That's what will happen to a gambler who cheats against his casino because the casino knows his business best. Many people may try to cheat, but many of them are caught because of their own cheating and have their accounts frozen by the casino. They can't do anything because the casino must prevent gamblers from cheating against the casino.

And yes, the casino has supporting evidence that shows the gambler cheated. Gamblers certainly won't be able to avoid it if there is evidence of their cheating. But some gamblers insist that they are not cheating and just gambling like everyone else.

But licensed casino will never ever do that according to this article Can Casinos Kick You Out for Winning (https://www.bestcasinozone.com/can-casinos-legally-kick-you-out-for-winning/)  "In general, the answer is no. Casinos are not allowed to ask patrons to leave simply because they are winning. This is because it is illegal for casinos to discriminate against patrons based on their race, gender, or any other protected class. Additionally, this would be a violation of the patron’s right to due process and would be considered unfair and unethical." It simply state that no matter how much a gambler win he/she cannot be legally kicked out of the casino unless they violate certain rules, the casino that would do that can face charges from the gamblers if found guilty and it will cost them much or worst be closed. So I think getting kicked out in casino because of winning too much is more likely happening less, maybe some there are some cases but I think those casinos are scam.

The gambler who made the comment might be right, but it's also possible that there's more to the story. Although, It's important to always consider both perspectives and not jump to conclusions. If the gambler will be able to share his strategy and explain how he was not trying to cheat and the casino will also share the evidence of his violation of the terms of service, maybe they could come to a more fair resolution. I think in this type of situations, transparency is really important because without transparency, it's hard for either side to feel like they're being treated fairly. And it's especially important for the casino to be transparent, since they're the ones with more power in the situation. Although, some casinos have made it clear that if there is any form of violation, user account can be ban without notice or explanation.

I agree with you its really hard to find out who is cheating because it is not right to blame both sides here the exact story is unknown to many. That's why everyone should proceed by considering the right thing to get rid of fraud. Many times gamblers are rewarded for their ability to solve something by resorting to bad luck when something bad happens to them. Cheating usually involves breaking the law, so as to gain an unfair advantage in competitive situations. No wonder pathological gamblers may lie cheat and even steal to continue feeding their addiction.

But there are also casinos that don't want to provide evidence and make it public, usually because of the security of their site and in the end this is also misused by other casinos using the same reasons and in the end people suspect that the casino is cheating too and taking away the user's money, on the one hand also the user Those who cheat must include evidence that they are not cheating and if they only explain without evidence their truth will not be recognized by the community.

That's why I won't side with anyone, either the accuser or the accused, until both of them really provide concrete evidence to reveal to each other which one is actually cheating because we don't always defend the casino because it could be that the casino is cheating too, the point is to provide clear evidence. strong because it is very important to win the case.

I think I have fallen victim to such before, where the gambler narrated his own side of the story, making things look all good for him. Without doubt, I sided with the gambler, blaming the casino for their actions. This was because I have always kept in mind that casinos are not always friendly to their users when it comes to them winning big.
 
But then again, when I went back to read about the entire case as others have contributed and more details have been uncovered, it appears that the person in question has taken advantage of the casino mistake, which was either an odd mistake or a bug. I can't really recall which member used such an average to win a game first and notice that it works, and then make another huge deposit, which made the last winning alarming and trigger the casino to investigate the issue.
 
Even when we don't have access to the casino data base to confirm the authenticity of the story, it's really important to take things easy and wait for the accused side of the story before drawing conclusions about a matter.

Online casinos have some differences from crypto casinos but both have different risks of scam.
Online casinos which are predominantly fiat-based are not really clear about their reputation and trust rating making it possible for scams to occur.
Meanwhile crypto casinos also have the same chance of scam occurring but this is only for small or new casinos and for large trusted casinos I think there is only a small percentage of scams occurring.

Some casinos do this on purpose they delay the payment or withdrawal process if large amount is withdrawn because the team will check whether the gambler is cheating or not when they get the big win.
And there are also those who deliberately delay because they don't have enough bankroll to process the withdrawals made and this will result in the account being frozen.
We have to be careful and clever in choosing the casino we will use so that we don't experience problems like that.

It is not that easy to say that such cases do not occur inside Fiat casinos.
There are several cases out there of fiat casinos not paying their customers and as I said above they all have the risk of being scam.

The evidence here clarifies who is cheating and who is honest so that the public can judge it. But often, the users are at fault and cannot show evidence but only accuse the casino of cheating. But when the casino representative comes and explains everything, including showing the evidence in the casino and being able to give reasons why the gambler cheated, the gambler usually can't say anything else because he can't show the evidence as the casino does.

We do not take sides with anyone and are neutral if we encounter such cases. We may only have an opinion based on the evidence provided by the casino or gambler; from that evidence we can see who is cheating. However, honest gamblers and honest casinos will not cheat because they respect each other. But there are dishonest gamblers and shady casinos and this is what we must avoid so that we do not suffer losses.

Figuring out who's cheating in gambling is already “why” for me. I mean right from the beginning, I am convinced that casinos are cheating players too and there are some players who are actually cheater not getting caught.
But I think a lot of times it's the gamblers trying to pull a fast one, maybe by messing with bonuses or using multiple accounts. So youre right that getting to the bottom of it boils down to having solid proof. You know, the folks involved probably have the best idea of what really went down. So having their side of the story and some concrete evidence is key. It's like solving a puzzle where you need all the right pieces to see the whole picture and figure out who's playing fair and who's not. Transparency and careful investigation are super important here to keep things fair and square for everyone involved. Also, if you dont have anything good to say to your co-players, just dont say anything at all :)

Casinos have teams in their respective departments so that they can really be relied on in handling all forms of problems including fraud committed by customers.
It can also be seen that many cases of cheating have been discovered and resolved by the team but some of the customers who cheated and were suspended even stated that they had been cheated or did not receive good service from the casino.

It is true that cheating by taking advantage of bonuses has happened lot and having multiple accounts is one of the things that is often used to get more bonuses but as time goes by they are caught by the casino.
Casinos have quite lot of ways to deal with such activities for example by checking IP addresses.

Some players can of course use VPN so that the IP is not tracked if it is the same but now more and more casinos have banned the use of VPN.

Maybe there are few cases which the accusation is true and the reputed casino settles the problem so that it won't grow huge and affect them badly. Some customers don't really care if the casino got an accusation from someone else. They only focus on their junk. Even without their help, an honest and powerful casino can always solve their issues easily. If the accusation happens in the forum, I'm sure many users will care here and try to defend their favorite casino.

This is often the case that happens anywhere but it was mostly taken as a joke by those losers and they don't create a scam accusation thread because they know that it's useless. They can not affect the reputation of the casino.

This means that both casinos and gamblers can cheat, but greedy gamblers usually cheat by using multiple accounts to get the bonuses the casino gives. They don't care about the rules of the casino, so they cheat to get the bonus. But at least the casino will know because they have a team that will guard their casino against people who want to cheat and will punish those who cheat by freezing their accounts so they can't use them anymore. The casino can also detect the use of accounts owned by gamblers so that the casino will know what the gambler is doing. As for cheating casinos, it will be done by shady casinos, and this has been happening for a long time, so we have to be more careful and vigilant in choosing a casino.

Because these casinos are not showing the gambling community what they want to know, because of security reasons these casinos don't want to show their pieces of evidence on how they traced cheaters because of fear that cheaters will have an upper hand and will find a way to exploit the systems that has been detected by cheaters, so casinos do not want that to happen, so we are left on just believing what these casinos are saying.
The gambling community will eventually lose confidence in casinos that keep doing this whenever someone wins a big amount, and casinos that sometimes do this are new because they cannot sustain paying their big winners.