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Title: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Z390 on October 07, 2023, 07:07:24 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Findingnemo on October 07, 2023, 07:23:50 AM
Money is the important reason why everyone gambles and if I am not wrong that is what the actual meaning of gambling is.

But what everyone here says or at least pretend to be, it should not be the sole reason for gambling because we know the odds are against us so most likely the house will beat us but still we may win and that is what we call a luck factor.

No one is going to gamble if there is no benefits but it doesn't mean people will stop spending their money cause most of our earnings are going somewhere which doesn't bring anything to us at all so at least gambling gives us a chance to win some money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Odohu on October 07, 2023, 07:40:05 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
No single person is gambling just for the fun, it is always for the money. Those who have this view are just trying to generate some good feelings that will water down the pain of losing. It is a psychological thing and I understand them perfectly well. Those who want to catch fun play computer games and not gamble.

The real fun of gamble comes from winning good amount of money and nothing else. Like you said before, there is no fun in giving your money away.

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
When money is removed from gambling, many people will see it as a waste of time. In my locality,  gambling have created many jobs and have remained a source of hope for many people who are not doing well financially. Even though I don't support gambling without a steady source of income, at least it provide hope for some thereby reducing crime.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Lida93 on October 07, 2023, 07:41:45 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
Yea some people could be hiding behind the curtain but there still gamblers that gamble mainly for fun while the money aspect is secondary to them.

Talking about the spirit of good will I'll say it's same as going to the fun fair park if you wanna get a horse ride to catch fun you'll have to pay for it. Paying for a horse ride doesn't make you gain profit but to get fun out of it. Same with gambling for those that are gambling for fun, to them the money aspect of getting a win is just a bonus if it comes.

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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
For those gambling mainly for fun like I earlier said definitely they will continue in their gambling even without the money. Only those that weren't playing because of fun that will have to quit and search for other means to make money.

A greater number gamble for the money but don't generalize it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Woodie on October 07, 2023, 07:42:15 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.
I don't think you can call it "free money" when there is a risk of you losing the initial capital you started with . Otherwise proceed with caution!!

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
Agreed, there is no fun in losing money but games like poker do offer that kind of fun especially if played in real life

 
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Plain simple!!! The motive of gambling has always been to make money💰 anybody not speaking in these lines would be lying.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: palle11 on October 07, 2023, 07:49:32 AM

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?


Why do they have to include money in playing the game instead of buying a drink on some good meal and watch football match with friends without betting on it, that is how to have fun without trying to win over some body money. People will not go to casino if it is free of money games. They will stay in their house to watch the games or play games with play station. It is about the money reward if you win from the game and not for fun like some people say and the people saying for fun are not gamblers because gamblers know they never gamble for fun. Fun is when you play with friends, relax yourself, eat good meal.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Oshosondy on October 07, 2023, 08:02:03 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.
Point of correction, no free money from gambling. Gamblers use money to gamble and that makes it not free as they also sacrifice their time for it. But gambling should ntit be taken as a way of making money.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
Just know that people are different. Like me I am gambling for fun. If you do not spend more than your gambling budget and which is not more than 5% of your weekly income, is that not fun enough?

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Agreed, but the money makes it different from other games, it makes it fun. If I am using just $0.5 for every bet, is that not fun enough? Although there are times I use martingale but still not beyond my gambling budget.

For addiction and people that gamble in a way they can not control their emotion, that is not fun. Using high amount of money to gamble caused that.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 07, 2023, 08:10:29 AM
I don't think there needs to be good intentions to have fun by gambling. We gamble, and yes we gamble and don't need to think about many things. And if we want to have fun by gambling, that's what we do using the money we can afford. And I don't need a reason to gamble because I gamble when I want to gamble. And when I don't want to gamble, I don't gamble. It's that easy. There is no need to think too complicatedly when you want to gamble because it will confuse you about what you want to get from gambling.

I remember there was a thread where there was a game playing site that didn't use money but they could get money if they managed to win. So it's good for you to try it. Here is the thread: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465315.0)


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: killerfrost on October 07, 2023, 08:23:09 AM
If specific cases of behavior are given, I think there will be clearer answers. Actually, I think there are also parts of people who use money to find happiness and gambling is an option. But it's clear that attraction, or a certain magic, always makes players excited or miserable when exposed to it for a long time. I also spent a long time in debt with the pleasures of gambling (addict). So at some point we will also receive new lessons about making choices.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: coin-investor on October 07, 2023, 08:29:30 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?


It's better that way than trying to deceive yourself that you can really make money from gambling, I used to have that mindset for many months I thought that beating the house was possible, I thought all I needed was a good method, perseverance and money to make even a small profit, I tried everything until I found out I'm just trying to fool myself and I could possible lose everything my mind and my money.
It's better to accept the truth, you can possibly win and you can win while having fun, you're not intentionally giving your money away but your priority is to have fun and if there's an opportunity to make money then go for it just don't make it your main priority.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: xSkylarx on October 07, 2023, 08:30:27 AM
The majority will quit if money is not involved but a lot of people really gamble for fun. Maybe I am wrong but imagine playing in a casino with your friends, are you and both of your friends really after the money? Practically speaking yes as we are hoping to win but the part of bonding and also the enjoyment with them is the first thing we want. We go to casinos to have fun rather than to make money. This is the same with drinking alcoholic beverages. Are you after the beverage you are drinking or does the bond with your friends and the conversations while drinking matter most?


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Assface16678 on October 07, 2023, 08:41:32 AM

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No, let's be honest, money is the main purpose why there is casino, casino or gambling is an entertainment yes, but money makes the casino, casino or gambling to gambling, I could still play casino with friends and such but it will be more fun if theres a money involved. That is the most practical reasoning why gambling and casino is alive.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Text on October 07, 2023, 08:48:45 AM
I don't have a desire or attraction for free money through gambling because I know it's not as easy to make money that way. Yes, for me, gambling is about having fun and entertainment, but can we sincerely claim that it can't be truly enjoyable without the monetary element? There is still an underlying hope of winning.

Yes, I am willingly spending my money for the sake of enjoyment in gambling as long as I am aware of the risks and potential outcomes. But if you're not focused on the money, you won't become addicted.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Helena Yu on October 07, 2023, 09:15:43 AM
You need to know if there's no money or reward you risk, it's not a gambling anymore.

If you can be fun by playing a game without risking something, why not? no one force you to gamble.

But playing a game without betting would be boring for a long time since there's no adrenaline and feel excited to win. That's why gambling become better than just playing a game alone.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: youdacapt on October 07, 2023, 09:19:50 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


When it comes to gathering, theres a social feeling or general assumptions that gambling is bad, either religious views, or cultural views, there is a general agreement that gambling is bad and this is one reason why people tend to gambling privately and in their closet.

Also, nobody is gambling for passion, gambling is not a job or an hobby, instead GAMBLING is a means to an end. This is why even gambling platforms does adverts that says "gamble responsibly" and if you visit gambling hubs, their agents will restrict your entrance if you visit to gamble multiple times etc.

Why do people gamble desperately? Lack of MONEY, UNEMPLOYMENT!


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 07, 2023, 09:21:15 AM
I don't have a desire or attraction for free money through gambling because I know it's not as easy to make money that way. Yes, for me, gambling is about having fun and entertainment, but can we sincerely claim that it can't be truly enjoyable without the monetary element? There is still an underlying hope of winning.

Yes, I am willingly spending my money for the sake of enjoyment in gambling as long as I am aware of the risks and potential outcomes. But if you're not focused on the money, you won't become addicted.

You have a healthy mindset in looking at gambling, it is very rare for people to think and be able to accept the actual fact that gambling will absolutely not provide them with income, even if it can be that maybe only one or two wins and obviously that is not income but only a prize because there is no consistent element in getting it. And it's also better that way than you continue to defend your selfish feelings that always assume that you can earn there but the facts that happen always lose at the end of the match. Therefore, it is better to make peace with ourselves between the wrong mindset along with high expectations and the logic of the truth and facts that occur. True, it is not at all easy to get a win there because it is clear that the percentage of wins is much lower than losses, which means that losses will continue to dominate you.

Casinos have arranged everything there, and they will make all the chances of losing bigger for all gamblers, so this is really an activity for fun, on the other hand yes I understand that fun there is also very involving money, meaning that the money factor has an important role to make people happy, but that is only for when winning. Absolutely agree, if we don't focus on winning money there then surely they won't be tempted.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: naira on October 07, 2023, 09:22:23 AM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
I think you are telling the real facts here. Because up to now we think gambling is just for fun, but when faced with a big win, the initial intention finally turns into a goal. I don't deny it, in fact I personally admit it. Money is still a measure of whether a person gambles or not. And with facts that we are always embarrassed to admit, sometimes we cover them up for entertainment reasons.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: swogerino on October 07, 2023, 09:29:31 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Most likely yes but there are people who are using some sort of casino add on which is SocialTournaments website that tries to promote Pragmatic Play slot machines,you can play there for free and win real cash money,many people use this as a way to stop gambling addiction from slot machines.

Except these people many would quit as those who are stating we are playing for the fun of it most likely as you say are hiding behind it as in the end of the day everybody is gambling to win money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: MainIbem on October 07, 2023, 09:30:45 AM
People will hardly tell you that they are gambling to make money while within ourselves we know the truth but real case there is that you don't need to put all hope over there whenever you gambling or places bets because there are no assurance that covers you to win the gamble. That is why most often say they gamble for fun, the fun there is don't put your trust that you would make fortune from gambling that is why most people makes those statements, otherwise I don't think if anyone could have a deep interest in playing games while there are other things that could fetched money on their table.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jating on October 07, 2023, 09:39:35 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

There's no such thing as free money though in gambling, of course someone can give you some money and you decided to play. Or you have free spins and then you won. But that is a slim chances though in gambling. You have to used your own money to win some.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

I disagree though that they are hiding their reasons for gambling, yeah you can have some fun as well in the sideline. For let's say you play with your friends in land base casino because I have done it many times already. Although I lose some money, it's ok on my end as I can afford that money to be burn that night and then entertain ourselves. But if I win money? Definitely going to take it with me. But the problem is that there are gamblers who see gamble as a means to earn, like a regular job or something, which is very wrong in the beginning.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: knowngunman on October 07, 2023, 09:56:13 AM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: danherbias07 on October 07, 2023, 09:57:05 AM
It is. A part of the fun is to win. I think that's what they mean because that's what I mean.  ;)
Will it still be fun if you are losing? Of course not, it's a frigging stressful experience and I don't want to be in that position. But, there is this perspective about winning that is fun which means you can try to win against the house. Of course is not true but some people get lucky, they can win the game and then get out.
If you do not have fun with gambling then what else will it be?
We mostly lose with casino games, that's given but we can at least try to take advantage of the fun part while trying to win the game. I think I do understand what they mean when they say "Try to have fun gambling" and that's what I said above.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: livingfree on October 07, 2023, 10:08:28 AM
If money isn't involved in gambling then it is no longer gambling but it's still fun if you enjoy those games.

While it's true that many don't seem to admit it that they're gambling for money and will just tell that they do it for fun, that doesn't matter to me as we have our own ways of making ourselves busy and doing our own stuff.

So either you gamble for fun or for money, what's the sense? We all have our own reasons in doing things and it is our money that we're spending not from anyone.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Docnaster on October 07, 2023, 10:09:07 AM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.
The truth is that everyone who gambles does it with the sole aim of winning their stakes and making good profits from their winnings. Some people do gamble in other to make money from it but will still pretend to gamble just for fun and which I think doesn't make any sense despite the fact that it's their personal life.
That being said, it's not right to gamble because one want to make a living out of it because you'll surely end up as a gambling addict since you'll always channel all your resources in it in other to win.  So wether you're gambling to make money or gambling for fun, gambling responsibly is the best way to gamble.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Fiatless on October 07, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
The main reason why many people gamble is to make money no doubt about it. But we still need to emphasize that there are people that care less about their lose or win. They might be very few but they still exist. We can also grade people who gamble for benefits into several levels. One category is people who don't depend on the gains from gambling to survive or meet their basic needs. Another level is those that bet because they are catching funds and also expecting profit. This set doesn't see gambling as a reliable source of income but they are expecting to have some benefit. For me, I don't gamble because of only entertainment and I don't also see it as a source of stable income. But my wins are well celebrated and the money is used to solve a need based on the amount won.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: decodx on October 07, 2023, 11:07:23 AM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

You make a good point that money is a big reason people gamble.  But I also think a lotta folks just like playing the games cause they're exciting, not because of winning cash. The excitement of games can be fun even if you ain't betting. If casinos went to no-money games, I bet some people would still show up to play just for fun. So I'd say for some it's about money, but for others it's about enjoyment.  Casinos would still have players if they dropped cash from the mix.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: piebeyb on October 07, 2023, 11:20:57 AM

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Always use unused money or money that is ready to be lost, maybe what is meant to have fun in gambling is like we pay for an entertainment game so when the money runs out, let's just say we pay for the entertainment we get like watching the circus for example, we are entertained but we pay to watch it, so the purpose of having fun is just to shift one's mindset so that one doesn't fall into addiction when one thinks that gambling makes a lot of money.

I think many people always think of gambling as a source of steady income or a quick way to get rich but in the end they are fooled by it and end up spending their money until they become addicted, but if the mindset is to have fun, let's just say that when we lose we spend money on something. entertainment, so it doesn't give the impression of wanting to chase defeat.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Maslate on October 07, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
Let's not kid ourselves here – in the world of gambling, there's no such thing as a free ride. It's called gambling for a reason, because we're putting our money on the line with the hopes of scoring big, but the outcome? It's a 50/50 chance, win or lose.

Sure, there are ways to make money in the gambling scene, like hustling as an affiliate or doing some marketing for the platforms. But let's be clear, when it comes to the actual playing part, you gotta pay to play, my friend.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: slapper on October 07, 2023, 11:28:01 AM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.
Gambling should be entertaining, right? Fun, excitement, and game play. When gambling becomes a surefire means to gain money, complications develop. Why? Gambling is inherently unpredictable. Investment returns aren't guaranteed. Not a business. Chance game

Consider this: What if we all gambled like phone games? No expectations, just fun. Would that alter our experience? I think so. Fun can be overlooked when money is the priority. After the fun, worry and desperation set in

Your comment about mobile phone gaming is good. Players play for hours without expecting payment. Why? Playing for fun. Wouldn't that approach change gambling? It's worth considering


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: kryptqnick on October 07, 2023, 11:37:52 AM
That's a good question op's asking. I consider gambling a form of entertainment, but it's a fair point that it's different from other forms of entertainment because I'd definitely do those for free, whereas the financial part is important for gambling. I mean, not for everything, of course. I've played poker with friends with no financial stakes involved and still enjoyed it, and I've done the same with a home-version of roulette.
But something like betting makes more sense when there's a chance of winning money for it. Then again, some people believe that betting and gambling are two different things, so in that case, it doesn't count as a counterpoint.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 07, 2023, 12:03:30 PM
I want to ask those who say that they play for fun to try to give some amount that they are ready to lose to hungry children and old people. Anyone who doesn’t know what it is to get pleasure from helping others should try it. You can understand that the money you give to a rich casino may make a child happier by buying him a toy or medicine. But unfortunately, gambling is a vice, and vicious people need to help themselves. Eternally hunting for money without getting anything useful from it makes your life very empty and useless.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: michellee on October 07, 2023, 12:19:37 PM
Getting a win from gambling is a bonus for gamblers. But unfortunately, many gamblers are chasing wins so they use more money to gamble. And it is true that people want to make money from gambling but it is not easy to get.

But we should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and not use it to make money. And if we manage to win and get money, that is a bonus for us because luck comes to help us win. Don't expect to get much money from gambling, especially if you have lost several times. It's better for you to just stop gambling because it can cause you to experience more losses.

And if there were no money, not many people would play because many people's goal is money. People are willing to use their money to gamble so they also know the risks of gambling. Only people unprepared for the results will feel frustrated and continue trying to chase the win.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Fortify on October 07, 2023, 01:12:23 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


You can only really say you're gambling if you have "skin in the game" aka you are risking something real. That's why you'll never get the same responses from players on free gaming apps, if you compared a free poker chip and a paid poker chip game for example. The aggression of the players and the unpredictability changes wildly between the two. That being said, if people work hard and want to spend small amounts of their income on these games because they find it entertaining - leave them to it, as it poses no real harm.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 07, 2023, 01:18:45 PM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No doubt,  money is the reason why people play gamble and money is the main reason why people become addicted, people don't become addicted because of the game itself but because of the money that is involved.

  If their is no money in gambling people won't get addicted in it. If money is not involve in gambling people will still play gamble just like the regular games people play. But the absence of money will reduce the rate at which people are into it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: YOSHIE on October 07, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Have you ever seen your friends or other people who gamble, they use disposable money and continue to gamble with that money, sounds strange but it's the truth, they come to gambling as they please and I see them betting for their pleasure and I see them gambling like a joke, I found them in the real world and this behavior was transmitted to me personally, that is the meaning of the meaning of gambling only for fun and as entertainment for them. no matter the game they win or lose.

Many of my friends are involved in gambling using money given by other people, once they make a deposit they turn the money around until it becomes a reality.
Example:
Someone gets money from other people amounting to $300 they make a deposit and play on three online gambling sites, each deposit is $100 with that money they bet at one of the online casinos with capital of $100 can make $1000 after winning they withdraw the money $700 and $200 is saved in their gambling account, they come and bet again with the money in the account as they please, come and go, if the game looks interesting and entertaining for them to bet on and if it is not fun they don't bet, for me that is what is called a gambler just for fun.

As far as I know, everyone gambles in various styles, some are looking for a living/necessity, fun, crazy, sane and so on, if you see them gambling in real or online you will find various things.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Solosanz on October 07, 2023, 01:57:58 PM
The games will become boring to play since there's nothing to achieve when you win, money is add an another taste to make the gambler want to play. It's like eating a pasta without the sauce, can you eat it? yes, but there's no flavor and you will feel full quicker before you eat it all.

Gambling is always need money and it depends on each person choice whether they want to gamble or not.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: angrybirdy on October 07, 2023, 02:09:51 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
No one is hiding it. Some people might say those words just to make them feel better from losing money in gambling. We all know that the very reason why we gamble is to make money. It's just that, it is really hard to win against the gambling house.

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Yes, maybe. Gambling without money involved is like a demo play, it's kinda boring though.
And yes, money will always be the reason why we gamble. We risk the money to earn money. There's fun there but it's all about making money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: madnessteat on October 07, 2023, 02:11:14 PM
~ Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it? ~

The point of gambling is that you risk your money trying to increase it. Naturally, the gambling provider gets his margin, so the probability of winning is slightly lower than the probability of losing. If you remove from gambling such a component as money, it loses meaning not only for the gambler, but also the gambling provider.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Stepstowealth on October 07, 2023, 02:28:23 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
People intentionally give money away for fun activities, it is a regular thing to see. People spend money on alcohol to have a good time, people spend and lavish money on drugs, Some men lavish money on women for fun, so people can intentionally lavish money on gambling for strictly fun. If you feel that you cannot do that, and that every time you play you have the intention to make money from it, everybody is not like you. There are many gamblers who are doing okay financially already, they play gambling for fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Slow death on October 07, 2023, 02:47:34 PM
When people pay to go to a water park or cinema or beach or bar or pay to go watch car races or horse races, are these people making a profit? Are these people making money when they pay to watch a football, basketball or tennis game? The answer is simple: these people are not making money when they buy tickets to watch tennis matches, football matches or basketball matches. So what exactly are these people getting when they buy tickets to watch football games? answer: they are having fun.

think of it this way; There are 24 hours in a day, you go to work at 8am and leave work at 5pm from Monday to Friday, when the weekend arrives (Saturday and Sunday) you stay at home all day and choose to do something something to have fun with and allow time to pass without you getting stressed. with that you take 50$ and go to a bar to have fun, or take 50$ and go to a premier league game to have fun, you are not going to these places to make some financial profit, you are going to have fun.

The same thing happens with casinos, instead of putting in 50$ to go watch a premier league game, you can take 50$ and go play in a physical casino or online casino and there you will have fun playing, just like when you pay for go bowling. The difference between paying $50 to go bowling or going to watch an NBA game versus gambling is that while you are playing gambling you may be lucky enough to win and have some or a lot of money. But, that doesn't mean you're playing to make a profit. I hope I fixed this mistake in your thread


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: zaim7413 on October 07, 2023, 03:01:31 PM
Who can guess with an accuracy rate of up to 80% the purpose of someone's gambling, as long as there is no honesty test tool, you can only assume without knowing someone's intention to gamble. Generally, it is often found that someone's goal of gambling is to make free and easy money, you cannot exclude other people's goal of gambling just to have fun.

Losing and winning become secondary, they gamble just to relieve fatigue after a day of activities and there are also those who want to get rid of boredom. Money in gambling is like salt in food, without salt cooking will taste bad, and so does money in gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Johnyz on October 07, 2023, 03:01:46 PM

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Most of the time yes, but it will always depend on the situation.
If you're already retired and have a lot of money but still gamble, do you think they still gamble for Money?
Well, for me they gamble to have fun and you can see most of this scenario on the casinos where the senior are still playing and still smiling in the front of the slot machine.
Though you have your point here but let's not generalize this and let's not invalidate those gambler who are into having fun than to make money, they know their real purpose.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Hispo on October 07, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Well, there was been games which much of their mechanics have much to do with randomness and chance, no money involved , and still can be quite fun. I used to spend quite while playing those when I was younger.

Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.



Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Rabata on October 07, 2023, 03:23:48 PM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
No matter what we say no one will be encouraged to gamble without money. But to answer your question I will say that many people know that there is no chance of guaranteed win in gambling but there is a chance of losing but still they keep their money if they win then they get money otherwise if they lose they have no problem they will take it easily. An attempt has been made to explain such an attitude. But if we only say that if gambling does not pay, will you gamble? The answer is “No”. No one will express interest in gambling unless paid. Money acts as an incentive to gamble.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: asyakashi on October 07, 2023, 03:23:57 PM
take free money from gambling, what if it gets pushed? I think if we gamble and make it an addictive habit or commit crimes for gambling it is indeed wrong, but some make good use of this, it's better than stealing isn't it. let's play with reasonable limits.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: coin-investor on October 07, 2023, 03:24:58 PM


Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.


I agree with it if money will fuel your thrill to have fun in gambling then it is good for you but you should limit using money, because if you need a lot of money to reach the desired thrill then it's dangerous to your mental health and pocket.
You need to have control and be responsible for how you gamble with your money, allocation is the key if you're playing for fun don't pour everything be content with the money that you have, and stop when you need to stop.
Gambling is fun when you know your limitations, failure to do this and you will encounter a lot of problems after your gambling session.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ralle14 on October 07, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
I agree money is the main reason for most gamblers, but some fail to realize that people can have fun with gambling, similar to how you'll spend money for an event. It's not always about winning but finding enjoyment within the activity. I would still play their games even if there's no money involved, but that's not possible because casinos require money or profits to flow in to maintain their business. Let's not forget sports betting is here too, and it's why some gamblers would switch to different types of gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: kojektea on October 07, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
well that is how gambling is much more interesting. if we play a game if the prize is something that is only exchanged in the game I'm sure it's less interesting. what if it could be exchanged for real money. this is very challenging. but as long as we are not addicted, it is of course something we can consider doing. So far, addiction to gambling is dangerous not when people can control it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: sokani on October 07, 2023, 04:16:04 PM
No single person is gambling just for the fun, it is always for the money. Those who have this view are just trying to generate some good feelings that will water down the pain of losing. It is a psychological thing and I understand them perfectly well. Those who want to catch fun play computer games and not gamble.

The real fun of gamble comes from winning good amount of money and nothing else. Like you said before, there is no fun in giving your money away.
You hit the nail on the head. Remove the money and you will find gambling to be boring, the money has always been the attracting force. There are hundreds of things I could do with my time if I want to catch fun like playing video games, hanging out with friends at the beach, picnic, clubbing etc. Sadly, we hide under the illusion that 'gambling is fun' but that's not true. Gambling is not a recreational activity, gambling is you hustling to see if you can add some money in your pocket. A gambler that's on a continuous losing streak or the one that it has wrecked his life, will he still call gambling fun? What's so fun about loses?


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 07, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
I don't think that's the case but for me the chance to get a money win is great but you still want to have fun. More like a 55-45 scenario.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
I don't think we can call it gambling if money is not involved but for the sake of having fun I guess you'll do it anyways.

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Correct, but you can't take that "seeking for fun" thing especially if you just want to pass the time.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Hispo on October 07, 2023, 04:28:38 PM


Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.


I agree with it if money will fuel your thrill to have fun in gambling then it is good for you but you should limit using money, because if you need a lot of money to reach the desired thrill then it's dangerous to your mental health and pocket.
You need to have control and be responsible for how you gamble with your money, allocation is the key if you're playing for fun don't pour everything be content with the money that you have, and stop when you need to stop.
Gambling is fun when you know your limitations, failure to do this and you will encounter a lot of problems after your gambling session.


It would be also productive to try to find other sources or thrill which do not involve to wager important amounts of money. By nature, Human beings get thrill out the feeling of uncertainty and risk, so it would be worth it to try to seek thrill by going to those crazy mechanical attractions.

Or perhaps try to play games like truth or dare with people one can trust, etc. Those are social activities which won't be translated into copious losses and in the worst case scenario one will just end up doing something embarrassing.   :P


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: robelneo on October 07, 2023, 04:28:55 PM


Money is still the real reason why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Yes of course and we should not deceive ourselves that it's not, but the thing is we should not gamble with money that we are not comfortable losing, there is no excitement if there's no money involved but the money that is involved should be excess money and we do not have a high expectation that it will make a profit, planning to make money on gambling will surely backfire.

It's important that we know how to moderate our greed, having high expectations in gambling is the cause of a lot of worry and financial problems we need to control our greed or the greed will control us and when greed controls us there is no limit on our expenses in gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Nwada001 on October 07, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
Making extra cash is not a bad idea at all, and gambling has been some people's means of getting something to add to their earnings. It might sound unwise, but that's the truth. If you see an opportunity to make another money aside from your income, why not grab it? This is what gamblers do.
 
I have said it before: if it's for the fun alone, we will not have as many casinos as we have right now, and we will not also have as many gambling addicts as we have currently in society.

Most people are inspired by others winning stories; some others are also inspired by what they believe they can do. You might like playing some games online for fun, but if it's not for the money, I believe you will use other means of playing games that will not require you to wager any amount and expect to win something in return.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: alastantiger on October 07, 2023, 04:35:55 PM
I play for fun and I play to win but I keep in mind that I may lose money which is also totally fine with me. No one is being a hypocrite contrary to what you think. Money and the ideal of winning it is the motivation for us to play in casino. Now that we can cash out in Bitcoin, it is even a bigger motivation. We only stress the fun and entertainment part because we know how people get easily carried away and act all angry when they are on a losing streak. They get all angry and all those behaviors that shouldn't be showcased in the public space.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: bittraffic on October 07, 2023, 04:40:38 PM
No single person is gambling just for the fun, it is always for the money. Those who have this view are just trying to generate some good feelings that will water down the pain of losing. It is a psychological thing and I understand them perfectly well. Those who want to catch fun play computer games and not gamble.

The real fun of gamble comes from winning good amount of money and nothing else. Like you said before, there is no fun in giving your money away.
You hit the nail on the head. Remove the money and you will find gambling to be boring, the money has always been the attracting force. There are hundreds of things I could do with my time if I want to catch fun like playing video games, hanging out with friends at the beach, picnic, clubbing etc. Sadly, we hide under the illusion that 'gambling is fun' but that's not true. Gambling is not a recreational activity, gambling is you hustling to see if you can add some money in your pocket. A gambler that's on a continuous losing streak or the one that it has wrecked his life, will he still call gambling fun? What's so fun about loses?

Definitely. I'm into sports and though I enjoy watching games, I still think of making money out of my prediction. Regardless of which team I put my money on, I aim to win and that is what is the essence of betting, its winning. Not to be entertained by losing.

But then making people believe they wanna be entertained through casino are for the audiences that hasn't yet got into gambling. Regular people hearing this may just be convinced that this entertainment could be fun because TV is just too cheap for entertainment.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: aioc on October 07, 2023, 04:47:34 PM


Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of goodwill when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
You don't do that there's no challenge just giving away your money you still hope that you'll win and if not you accept your losses and move on that's how gambling should be treated.


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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


We are hoping to make money of course but we are not going to chase money that we've lost because we expect to win, the key here is acceptance if you can not accept the results then you have a problem, play for fun and hope to make money not play to make money and hope to have fun its two different things.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ice098 on October 07, 2023, 04:52:03 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.
Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Yes we cannot erase that fact because there are still other people who made money with gambling. It is a fact but it is not available to everyone I mean not all people can get what other people are doing. If they are winning in a row and earning so much in gambling we can't compare ourselves nor gamble as much as they did because what is happening to them does not guaranteed that will happen to us.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Juse14 on October 07, 2023, 04:54:53 PM
If so, then what is the difference between gambling and other offline games? Having no money at stake in gambling will only reduce the essence of gambling. And if gambling were like that, there would never be anyone who would spend time analyzing or thinking hard to create a trick for playing and there would never be anyone who would spend their money trying their luck. In essence, this gambling would be empty if there were no stakes in it. Like you are drinking syrup but not with the sweetness which makes it taste bland.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: darkangel11 on October 07, 2023, 05:31:36 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

I don't agree. We never intentionally give our money away. There's always a probability of winning and it often is at 50% so after playing 10 rounds of whatever, blackjack for example, you can be sure some of these rounds will be won, but you don't know which ones, so you bet the same money every time. If you knew which round will end up with you getting 21, you'd go all in at that specific round.
When you go somewhere where you have to pay for entry, like the cinema, do you consider it lost money? I'd say you buy fun, right? If there's a bungee jump at an amusement park that you have to pay for, do you lose money, or do you pay for entertainment. At the casino there's no entry fee, but to play you have to bet, so you also pay for entertainment.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: BitcoinTurk on October 07, 2023, 05:41:17 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


I would like to express my opinion as someone who is not addicted to gambling and gambles for fun. Yes, as I mentioned I gamble for fun but this doesn't mean that I don't expect to win. So, even though I'm someone who gambles to have a good and funny time there is always the thought of "what if I can make high profits?" in the back of my mind. To continue my interpretation here I can say that, for me gambling for fun is like this;

Gambling is an expensive but exciting entertainment activity for me. Although I call this as a fun of course I also know that I can potentially make a profit every time and I gamble in line with this expectation. However, if I set my budget at 100 units before gambling it doesn't exceed this limit and I don't add anything extra in case I consume my budget quickly. In other words, just to spend 100 units like an individual addicted to gambling I don't end up spending 300 units after I start gambling. For this reason, I state that I gamble for fun because I can control myself in this way.

Although gambling is a method of fun for me under the conditions I have stated, it wouldn't be something I would choose if it was played for free and didn't make any profit. The reason for this is that although I play for fun as I mentioned, there is also the possibility of making money right away.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Gozie51 on October 07, 2023, 05:42:46 PM
I play for fun and I play to win but I keep in mind that I may lose money which is also totally fine with me. No one is being a hypocrite contrary to what you think. Money and the ideal of winning it is the motivation for us to play in casino. Now that we can cash out in Bitcoin, it is even a bigger motivation. We only stress the fun and entertainment part because we know how people get easily carried away and act all angry when they are on a losing streak. They get all angry and all those behaviors that shouldn't be showcased in the public space.

It is good that you point this out. You will see people who say they play for fun or entertainment but when they are losing out on the bet they will start cursing and regret why they played or selected the game in the first place.

People can pretend about this that they play for fun but surely they are not playing for just fun. Why playing with money if you want only fun, there is no goodwill in throwing away money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Beparanf on October 07, 2023, 05:46:33 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

By thinking and asking like this clearly you are not using gambling as form of entertainment. You will not understand the gambling is for fun ideology if you are thinking that you are just giving away your money when you lose.

Gambling means you have a chance to win on your bet but it just happened that you lose. The important part is you have a chance which means you didn’t deliberately gave your money to the casino unless you betting mostly on high odds bets and expecting to frequently win. When you lose, it only means that your luck or betting management is terrible. The fun of gambling relies on how you will enjoy playing the game win or lose.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: famososMuertos on October 07, 2023, 05:53:24 PM
...77::,,,
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


A lot can be said about that, but at the end of the day it is simply your opinion, so, you yourself have the right to believe that you cannot play with playmoney.

With all due respect, I advise you to pay for a medical consultation.  The reason, your same assertion.

Then, if just as you can go to a restaurant for dinner without thinking about how much money you are spending, by being able to eat at home, you can enjoy the fact of an activity like playing with Playmoney.

Consequently, the difference in leisure time and activities vs. the emotional benefit, It does not lie in the final result but in the experience itself, that is, paying the bill for that dinner, for example, is not everything.

That said, if someone thinks the same way as you, they are a potential candidate for being an addict or a degenerate gambler.
#ihmo


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Yatsan on October 07, 2023, 05:53:37 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Yes, there is just like with when you are seeking convenience on daily services; you are paying extra. Same thing with paying for extreme rides on parks. We just have different ways to enjoy things and that includes paying just for the experience. But yes not to be a hypocrite, most of us are here to earn money no doubts. But we cannot generalize. I’d say variation depends on our drives; perhaps with most of us wanting to be rich from gambling but there are rich ones who are just wanting to take back what they have lost from this industry or when they have gambled last week. They tend to accept that luck ia the bottomline and they just want to get their small losses to continue playing and enjoy things.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Negotiation on October 07, 2023, 06:26:23 PM
No one will tell you the truth about making money in gambling it's hard to get accurate information when you lose money on payments and try to earn it with unrealistic optimism. The field of making money in gambling depends on the individual's own will. Most gamblers come to make money but the rich have no such influence they have a lot of money and gamble for fun. Since this is the most preferred form of drawing luck you should always keep your belongings while gambling that you consider lucky for you. Having luck on your side can help increase your chances of winning consider carrying a lucky charm or wearing red another way to break the streak of bad luck is to bet at a trusted casino of your choice


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: tjtonmoy on October 07, 2023, 07:02:39 PM
Yes, people will still gamble if money isn't involved. but they don't feel the rush they feel while gambling with money. when money is involved it becomes more intense and that's the feeling they crave. for this reason they put money into gambling. Believe it or not that's totally up to you, but there are gamblers who only gamble for the fun. well not fun exactly but the adrenaline rush.

while you are enjoying something, and you could also make money from it would you leave it? would that be a smart thing to do? of course not, it's free money. you are paying for the entertainment but in return you are getting something sometimes. at least that's what I think. but I don't know about other people if they are pretending or not. if people only go after money they will always get influenced by their emotion and in the end get addicted to. there are gamblers who are successful and not addicted to it. how do you explain that OP?


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: tread93 on October 07, 2023, 07:18:31 PM
Of course they would stop if it wasn't for the money, or they would treat it with much less focus or effort, however much effort that gambling requires, lol.

If there is no chance to multiply the money then there is no real reason to for fun. I think the "fun" part for gamblers is that feeling of adrenaline when they are on a streak...


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: topbitcoin on October 07, 2023, 07:19:45 PM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
I don't quite understand what the OP is asking. How come a question like this arises?
And how could I possibly say that this is gambling? Meanwhile, what is called gambling is betting, so if there is no money at stake then this cannot be called gambling. At this time I really enjoy the gambling that I play and I never feel like I have lost the amount of money I spend gambling, because I get pleasure from it and when I play gambling I will only spend the amount of money that I can afford to lose. the. Even though my goal in gambling is just to have fun, if I eliminate betting money in it, this will only reduce my essence and sensation when playing gambling. Whether gambling is good or bad depends on each individual, if the person playing it is irresponsible and careless then the gambling he does will only have a bad impact on himself. However, if this gambling is played by the right (wise) people, the presence of this gambling can provide benefits as a means of finding fun and relieving stress. And all of this comes back to us personally on how to understand gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jemzx00 on October 07, 2023, 07:29:08 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
I doubt many people are really gambling just to intentionally give or throw away their money, it's a gamble, which involves risk where you may win or not.
Also, taking money away from gambling isn't gambling anymore but rather just a game.
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Probably yes or no, it depends on how the game is and again, it's not gambling anymore if money is not involved. People will be quiting as it's not gambling anymore.

Honestly, along with having fun on gambling, money is the main reason we gamble and winning and earning or even losing is part what makes gambling fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on October 07, 2023, 07:31:22 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

If there wasn't money to be gained from gambling, I doubt many people would indulge. Hell, the casino houses both online and offline would not be as big and a constant source of revenue to its owners or investors.

Many people love spending their money to get their adrenaline pumping or heart rate high and gambling is one of the many games which can fiddle with ones emotional state in a minute and either make one richer or poorer in such instance. There's addiction and there's occasional indulgence, so which ever is economically convenient is mostly the best road to travel.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Vaskiy on October 07, 2023, 07:35:06 PM
Every gambler used to start it for fun. As time passes the choice of free money makes them involved into spending more expecting big money. Many prefer gambling with cryptocurrency to have more privacy. People have negative thinking over gamblers, if someone is known to be a gambler it might make people think them to be addict even if they're gambling with limits.

If money isn't involved, surely gambling could never been this popular and have got good users. Money involvement into gambling have made it a billion dollar industry. Playing without money doesn't make it interesting, and personally I don't spend time gambling as it is same as playing games to accumulate tokens that doesn't have real value.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: abel1337 on October 07, 2023, 07:49:12 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Having something valuable at stake is what makes gambling fun. It's a challenge that you won't wanna lose because there will be something that will be lost to you when you are defeated and that what personally pumps me in trying hard to win the game. If the casino remove the money on their games, it won't be a casino, it will be called a game center. We have options in this world and game centers where there's are no bet on their games, people choose casino because there are some risk in it that gamblers want. Not everyone go to a casino to win massive profit but at the same time not everyone wants to lose either.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Issa56 on October 07, 2023, 07:52:23 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.
Everyone wants to win when they are gambling. Making money is the main reason why most people do gamble, but when you win after gambling, I don't think it's free money. You gambled with your money, you worked for the money, and when gambling, you have equal chances of winning and losing, so saying you want to make free money from gambling is kind of wrong. If you win in a bet, then it's not free money.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
When you are gambling, you will definitely put all your effort into making sure that your prediction is correct, not that you are just going to gamble blindly. So in the process of gambling, just keep in mind that you are having fun and you are not gambling for the sake of money. Gambling should be done maybe when you are bored or when you think you are free and you feel like gambling. If you are really desperate to make money from gambling, then that's when the problem starts.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
Money being involved is something that gives some people joy, even if they are not after the money. If money is not involved in gambling and I notice that I am still getting the entertainment that I need, I will still keep on gambling, but people who are gambling just because of money will stop instantly.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: len01 on October 07, 2023, 08:16:57 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

then what about whale gamblers who bet on poker games inside big casinos in a country and can it still be said to be all about money? on the one hand, these big gamblers already have a lot of money and they really come for entertainment.

maybe the above is another scenario from my opinion but personally I dont always gamble using personal money but using money from the campaign and sometimes I dont withdraw the money from the campaign but I use it to bet everything and yes, I admit its all about winning but the question is Do gamblers who have fun only want to lose? dont gamblers have fun and also want to win?
I not be a hypocrite because I admit that I gamble just for fun but I would not like it if I always lost because the fun comes from winning whatever the amount and its not all about money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Mahanton on October 07, 2023, 08:37:19 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Totally agree with this sentiment on which money would be always the driving force that will make you play gambling.It is very true that you might've that kind of thinking about playing for fun but we know that losing is never been entertaining or something that could make you happy on which it would rather make you feel that stressful at the same time on which you do really become that impulsive on which  I could say that it is really that a common reaction or on how you would really be dealing with gambling normally.We are just humans who do normally having that love on acquiring lots of money as easy as possible and this is why gambling do really check those check boxes about such thing.On the time that we do play gambling on first time then it is really that normal that you would be having those kind of intentions and impressions but once you do have that kind of experience specially it's inevitably bad the this is where self learning would kick in.

Somehow,there are indeed people who do really play just for fun despite of the spending or losses that they had committed out ad and it's just normal that those relative feelings could really be felt out along the way.The important thing here is just you do really know on when to stop and when to call it a day so that you won't really be making yourself on having no control and having no chance on being addicted through it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 07, 2023, 08:54:57 PM
Every gambler used to start it for fun. As time passes the choice of free money makes them involved into spending more expecting big money. Many prefer gambling with cryptocurrency to have more privacy. People have negative thinking over gamblers, if someone is known to be a gambler it might make people think them to be addict even if they're gambling with limits.

If money isn't involved, surely gambling could never been this popular and have got good users. Money involvement into gambling have made it a billion dollar industry. Playing without money doesn't make it interesting, and personally I don't spend time gambling as it is same as playing games to accumulate tokens that doesn't have real value.

definitely, gamblers are here in this industry for the main reason of earning good money from their bets or games. if there's no money involved, do you really think this will be a hit to these players? i don't think so.
well, it is public knowledge that when you go into gambling, and you dedicate more time and funds into this activity, you are not here for fun only. but hoping that you will go home big at one point in your gambling life, right?


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Westinhome on October 07, 2023, 08:57:05 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


The gambler who uses the free money for the gambling will be the wise person as compared to person who use the loan money for the gambling.My friend had start to gamble after getting 10k dollars with the ten percentage interest for every month.Then he do all the bed based on the random bet in the gambling,he had loss huge money in the lottery.He failed to understand the lottery is based on the luck.After few game,he not accept the thing the luck was not favour at the current situation.Now he paying interest from their income.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: rahmad2nd on October 07, 2023, 09:20:10 PM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Very interesting, I really understand what you are saying in this thread. and I think, each person/gambler will have a different answer depending on their own perspective. So, let's just be realistic. before we are going to have a gambling session, we have to reach into our pockets and take out money so that we can play games that involve betting. with the money that we have taken out of our pockets as a tool or medium for playing, every gambler wants to get fun entertainment from this type of game that involves money.
My question is, what is the essence of gambling for you personally, money, fun, entertainment, or.. you can answer it according to your own version.

And if I refer to what you said, you want to get free money from gambling and even you claim that you are a careful gambler. thus, you have answered what you described in this thread. The point is, you indirectly don't want to lose your money during a gambling session. and that's why, you do it very carefully. Whether you realize it or not, the money you have spent as gambling capital doesn't want to just disappear because of defeat. and even, you want to get free money from gambling, which means you want to win.

Likewise with us, every time we bet we will always want or let's say expect to win. this would be very natural, because before we start we need capital to play. It's just that, in every game, luck will not always be on our side. So, in gambling there are winners and there are also losers. the one who wins is lucky, and the one who loses is the opposite.
Now it's just a matter of how you respond to it, whether you will consider it entertainment and fun. or, you will take it seriously to earn money from gambling. The essence for me is that gambling is fun, but it also contains risks. and it is this risk, which we must be ready to accept regardless of winning or losing. tip, if a game is no longer fun for you, I mean, the game you are playing doesn't provide good beats or attractive rewards. it's best to stop and come back another time.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Distinctin on October 07, 2023, 09:30:26 PM
We all gamble for money, and when we gain good amount, that’s when we realized there is more fun in gambling. Obviously, earning money is the primary aim of all gamblers, and not just to stay entertained and gather some fun. If you are just gambling simply to unwind and make your body relaxed, I don’t think it gives you challenge to come back to gambling again and again. But when you say you are gambling to make money and to have more fun, that could be a very valid answer for me.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: dothebeats on October 07, 2023, 09:32:12 PM
If you are freely spending a lot in your hobby in exchange for a good time or something that satiates your hunger, then the same can be said for gambling. A lot of people are freely giving money to streamers in exchange for a good time, why can't something apply to gambling? The key difference is that in gambling, you have the chance to get back a lot more money than what you originally put in, whereas in other hobbies, you are kind of throwing it away fully because there isn't a chance that you can get it back, aside from those hobbies that collect something which can be sold later down the line.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: mirakal on October 07, 2023, 09:36:36 PM
I don't think there needs to be good intentions to have fun by gambling. We gamble, and yes we gamble and don't need to think about many things. And if we want to have fun by gambling, that's what we do using the money we can afford. And I don't need a reason to gamble because I gamble when I want to gamble. And when I don't want to gamble, I don't gamble. It's that easy. There is no need to think too complicatedly when you want to gamble because it will confuse you about what you want to get from gambling.

I remember there was a thread where there was a game playing site that didn't use money but they could get money if they managed to win. So it's good for you to try it. Here is the thread: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465315.0)
Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Ever-young on October 07, 2023, 09:53:33 PM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No matter how gambler want to phrase the statement, the truth is bitter they are all in there for the financial benefit, we know that their are rich people which we have in the industry who are consider VVIP on which ever gambling platform that they fine their self, those people appears to have made it in life already either through other means for earning and some still through gambling, for those who already have enough money which their is no amount of money that one can still consider as enough, this people just want to gamble for fun they play with money if they win it’s their luck and they consider the winning as another money for next day gambling.

But for people like you and eye, who want to use any small opportunity to increase our earnings, the truth might appears bitter, still it’s entirely for the money, if they happen to remove winning and betting this to get that from gambling we will see that most casinos will short down, this is not because their is no one to play on their casino but this is because their is nothing their any more to attract new people to their.

Let’s take some casino which have already been declared as one without a transparent system and their winning chances is not fair to players, if any casino have been declared as a cheat why do you think most people avoid going their to play, that’s because they know they don’t have a higher change of winning their which is something they won’t like waste their time and money in place like that.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: komisariatku on October 07, 2023, 10:29:17 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Yes, I also have the same assumption as you. I'm sure there are gambling addicts here but they give advice not to become a gambling addict, maybe he is hiding it or maybe he is not aware that he has become a gambling addict.

I really believe that gamblers will leave the game if gambling sites no longer use money, they will not play just for fun. I see lots of free gambling games on Playstore but there are few users

However, the essence of gambling is money and the hope of getting a big win or even a maxwin. Everyone needs hope, and casinos provide that hope even if that hope is false


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: goinmerry on October 07, 2023, 10:43:12 PM
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Of course, it is. That's why it's called "gambling" right? You are gambling and risking your own hoping for the best exchange in return.

If you saw someone saying gambling is for fun, then maybe that's the form of their fun, risking money even if they are losing.

Just mind our own business indeed. Whatever the approach of others on gambling, just let them do what they want.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 08, 2023, 06:29:48 AM
Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.
That is why before we decide to gamble regularly, we must first understand the risks of gambling so that we will not make the wrong choice. But we have to make sure that we gamble not to chase wins but to have fun and if we can win, that means we are lucky. But we can't expect to always get lucky because it will only happen sometimes for most people. And it is true that gambling is a choice made by people and we also have the choice not to gamble too often so that we do not experience more losses. We can gamble but have good self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop gambling whenever we want. And if we already have it, we really have to take good care of ourselves so that we are not tempted by the offers or promotions offered by the casino.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: davis196 on October 08, 2023, 06:48:23 AM
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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Outhue on October 08, 2023, 06:50:55 AM
Fun is also a part why we gamble, those who loves betting on sports games knows what I am talking about, it becomes more thrilling when you believe that your supported football club will beat your friend's, and you decide to bet some money on it, you can also watch the match together and that's where the fun begins, I believe games like this will lack the fun once you place a high amount of money, that is what will ruin the fun.

It can only be fun when your friend win your money is the money you use to place bet is very small, you will easily over look it and think more about the fun that comes from the thrilling match, so yes fun are present in gambles only when you placed bet with small amount of money that you can easily forget once it's gone.

Gambling is not that bad, people's greed is what makes gambling a bad thing in the face of many people, I believe it's still possible to get fun out of gambling if you are a responsible gambler, but oh yes people want to get rich off everything that's why they venture into gambling full time, I am not saying money isn't why are all gamble but less money on gamble makes it enjoyable.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Nheer on October 08, 2023, 07:10:58 AM

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
I have also seen couple of people say here that they gamble for the fun of it and they are not into it because of the money and I doubted them and i also think they are just trying to pretend, it is possible that some people are playing it for fun and for the love of the game and are mot too much concerned about their winnings or losses but the percentage of these kind of people are very low compared to those who gamble for the money they can earn.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Of course not, no one wants to lose money even the richest people are working hard to keep making more money so why would a nobody like me want to gamble for free? Gambling is quite boring when no money is involved, it won’t be worth playing because there would be nothing motivating you to gamble and how do we expect casinos to make money from. Gambling’s definition involves staking money and who ever loses would pay the other party, that’s the fun of it.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one will get addicted if money is not involved because it would not be worth playing. I would not have had any interest in it if money was not involved,  i may still participate but not as much as i do now.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: bitbollo on October 08, 2023, 07:14:16 AM
... stating that they are gambling for the fun of it...
Yes! That's me ;D

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Absolutely yes. This is my "second" betting rule! And I have posted this... 8 years ago ::)
... Play only an amount of money that you are ready to trash in the rubbish....

Will you still participate if money is not involved?
Yes but it should be fun! Unless I will not spend my time.

Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
the phenomenon would certainly be reduced. It's a bit like drinking wine but without the alcohol.
Yes, the taste, the color, everything we want, but remove the alcohol and you have removed the "magic" :(

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

you can fool yourself into thinking you're playing with the hope of "making money". but in reality you will only lose money,trying to catch this illusion.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 08, 2023, 10:02:46 AM
Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.
That is why before we decide to gamble regularly, we must first understand the risks of gambling so that we will not make the wrong choice. But we have to make sure that we gamble not to chase wins but to have fun and if we can win, that means we are lucky. But we can't expect to always get lucky because it will only happen sometimes for most people. And it is true that gambling is a choice made by people and we also have the choice not to gamble too often so that we do not experience more losses. We can gamble but have good self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop gambling whenever we want. And if we already have it, we really have to take good care of ourselves so that we are not tempted by the offers or promotions offered by the casino.

That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Porfirii on October 08, 2023, 10:15:44 AM
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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.

That's it. If money wasn't involved, the dopamine and other neurotransmitter peaks wouldn't be the same, and it would be the same either for all these emotions they produce (fun, if you want to focus on it). So, when players say that they gamble for fun, I think that what they mean is that they know well the mechanisms of gambling and are not expecting that it will be profitable / a source of income.

When you go to a tavern you know that you will get fun, at a cost. To me, gambling is quite similar, and it is not the same to gamble in a logical way than the delusion of believing that it will improve your life in the long term.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 09, 2023, 03:27:35 AM
That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.
Rarely are gamblers willing to think about the risks that might arise when they are gambling. Instead, they will continue gambling and hope to win some money from playing several rounds of gambling. But they know they will face a risk of loss, and some of them are ready for that defeat and will not try to recover their losses. But others will try to recover their losses because they think they can. And yes, that's why they must change their mindset, especially if they have experienced loss. They don't need to continue gambling and try to recover their losses because that means they can experience even more losses.

If we could think about the luck that might not come to us, we might try to prevent many losses. We don't want to lose more money because it's not worth it if we win, especially if we've already lost a lot of money. But if they can accept their defeat, they can continue gambling and will not regret it if they have lost a lot of money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: lienfaye on October 09, 2023, 03:46:48 AM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Well, if you decided to play despite knowing you can lose your money in snap then yes because it's part of it. Thus if you can't stand this fact, you are not someone playing to entertain yourself. Instead, there's a purpose why you're willing to risk your money, and that is to gain something.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: dothebeats on October 09, 2023, 03:55:03 AM
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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.

That's it. If money wasn't involved, the dopamine and other neurotransmitter peaks wouldn't be the same, and it would be the same either for all these emotions they produce (fun, if you want to focus on it). So, when players say that they gamble for fun, I think that what they mean is that they know well the mechanisms of gambling and are not expecting that it will be profitable / a source of income.

When you go to a tavern you know that you will get fun, at a cost. To me, gambling is quite similar, and it is not the same to gamble in a logical way than the delusion of believing that it will improve your life in the long term.

People usually pay to get themselves entertained today. A great example is a lot of people are watching streamers do their content online and are sending tips, or are gifting subs in order to keep the 'fun' going. I personally don't see any fun in that, but it's understandable given that we aren't the same when it comes to the basis of getting entertained. Same with people who are risking their money gambling and are having fun doing so. We wouldn't know for sure what their motives are, but so long as they're not problematic gamblers, I guess we can leave them to their own devices and let them 'enjoy' losing money to the gambling platform.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Pierre 2 on October 09, 2023, 05:47:13 AM
I think even if money is taken away I would be still having fun gambling. I think this is completely up to people. Especially gamers are playing against ai most of the time without having money involved. And it's one of the greatest fans for them. I think if you are sort of above average wealthy person with many  free time gambling is another great option. People who consider gambling as a way of money making are more common to observe tho. I agree with that.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: piebeyb on October 09, 2023, 06:21:53 AM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.
Yes, sometimes just looking for fun and getting entertainment doesn't have to involve money to play at the casino, that won't be a problem because everyone can enjoy playing there without having to use money, for example using demo money, but most gamblers who look for money at the casino won't be enthusiastic. with that because they will not get happiness if they gamble without involving money.

Gamblers who just want to make money at the casino will usually never feel at ease with that, it all depends on their own life choices and every gambler has their own views, so it's okay for me personally without involving casino money, the casino will still be a place of entertainment for me in my free time, specifically on weekends.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Hirose UK on October 09, 2023, 06:27:31 AM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Well, if you decided to play despite knowing you can lose your money in snap then yes because it's part of it. Thus if you can't stand this fact, you are not someone playing to entertain yourself. Instead, there's a purpose why you're willing to risk your money, and that is to gain something.
Benefit? It doesn't seem like it because if we expect profits we will probably experience disappointment when we lose and really regret it if we lose large amount of money.
The most appropriate answer is to have fun because the definition of having fun or entertainment is very expensive and even fun will never be worth the amount of money we spend to get it.
Moreover not in all activities we can get very satisfying pleasure.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.
This is good choice or approach because that way you will never have problems when you have to spend money to get satisfaction that may be difficult to get elsewhere.
Of course in gambling there will always be wrong approaches such as making money by risking what they have but this will actually only have very bad impact on gambler in the long run.
Some people think about getting rich from gambling but they never think about the risks that might not make them rich but only leave them with misery or bankruptcy.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: stadus on October 09, 2023, 06:29:15 AM
You gamble for fun, right? And let's be honest, there's no real fun in gambling without using real money, so it's not exactly "free." Now, people might say they gamble for fun, but the reality is that they might stop having fun when they start losing money. That's their issue to deal with, though; every gambler comes with their own experiences and baggage, and it's ultimately up to the individual to figure out how to handle it.

The most crucial thing is to ensure that gambling doesn't lead to addiction. And if it does head in that direction, let's hope the gambler can find a way to avoid it spiraling into a life-destroying situation. I want to emphasize that it's not fair to solely blame gambling for destroying a gambler's life, as there are often multiple factors at play.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: DaNNy001 on October 09, 2023, 06:32:12 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Lol, you are not the only one mate, sometimes many users just tend to be replying or comments about their gambling intentions in a nice and responsible view because if the community standard, but I know for sure that a handful of members here actually gamble with the first intention of making money as no one will ever gamble just to satisfy his habit with losing.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Mauser on October 09, 2023, 07:10:48 AM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


That's an interesting, I think that a majority of gamblers like the aspect that real money is involved and that they have the chance to make a big profit from it. In case the casinos would offer only games with paymoney I think the play numbers would drop quickly. For me personally it wouldn't be such a big change, because I like to play all kinds of games for many years. Shooters and strategy games I have been playing for 15 years and gambling is part of those games to. Opening loot boxes and taking part in skin raffles is another form of gambling I enjoy, same goes for playing poker or black jack. If both those games would only be playable without real money I would still keep playing them. The games are fun and money is only part of the excitement, not the main focus. Gambling with the sole purpose of making money doesn't work out in the long run, it's better to have different motivations behind our hobbies.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Kakmakr on October 09, 2023, 07:32:09 AM
There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  :D


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 09, 2023, 09:20:55 AM
That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.
Rarely are gamblers willing to think about the risks that might arise when they are gambling. Instead, they will continue gambling and hope to win some money from playing several rounds of gambling. But they know they will face a risk of loss, and some of them are ready for that defeat and will not try to recover their losses. But others will try to recover their losses because they think they can. And yes, that's why they must change their mindset, especially if they have experienced loss. They don't need to continue gambling and try to recover their losses because that means they can experience even more losses.

If we could think about the luck that might not come to us, we might try to prevent many losses. We don't want to lose more money because it's not worth it if we win, especially if we've already lost a lot of money. But if they can accept their defeat, they can continue gambling and will not regret it if they have lost a lot of money.

Now in my opinion, from this alone, it is already known what exactly their intention is to come so that they get such a downturn, I think why they only consider the risk there as a small part that doesn't really matter is because they come with the wrong intention and mindset which is only focused on winning or to make money, not at all to find entertainment, I think this makes sense for them. Whereas on the other hand it is clear as we know and what I have mentioned above the casino has arranged everything, the percentage of wins is much lower than the loss that means the loss will continue to dominate, whatever method they use and they believe it will not fully affect. Usually people who come with this intention will definitely when they lose they will continue to play to catch up with the victory and to make up for the loss in the previous time, that's for sure.

Well the point is if our mindset is right and knows that the name of luck will not always come especially consistently then surely we will always think about how to reduce losses or prevent them in any way we can, and if you really want to continue gambling then you must really be able to be a gambler who is responsible for whatever happens, so that there are no regrets whatsoever.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: irhact on October 09, 2023, 09:38:42 AM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

We have different individuals, some individuals when they gamble, they're doing that because they want to get some entertainment and others are doing it because they're looking for income. Those who gamble mainly because they want to get income don't always succeed as they'll be losing but those doing it without having the main focus of income, gets profits. When all that's in your mind is making money, you'll be gambling wrongly and addiction will become a problem.

I think everyone knows why he's gambling, while I'm gambling mostly for fun but when I make profits it makes me happy that I want to change my reason for gambling from entertainment to gambling for money but I know if I do that, I'll be putting more pressure on myself to make money and I might lose myself doing that.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: slapper on October 09, 2023, 09:44:25 AM
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


That's an interesting, I think that a majority of gamblers like the aspect that real money is involved and that they have the chance to make a big profit from it. In case the casinos would offer only games with paymoney I think the play numbers would drop quickly. For me personally it wouldn't be such a big change, because I like to play all kinds of games for many years. Shooters and strategy games I have been playing for 15 years and gambling is part of those games to. Opening loot boxes and taking part in skin raffles is another form of gambling I enjoy, same goes for playing poker or black jack. If both those games would only be playable without real money I would still keep playing them. The games are fun and money is only part of the excitement, not the main focus. Gambling with the sole purpose of making money doesn't work out in the long run, it's better to have different motivations behind our hobbies.
You make a really good point there! You're arguing that playing with real money gives the game an extra zing, then? Who doesnt enjoy the excitement of maybe winning the lottery, after all? But, but, but... would the appeal disappear if casinos started accepting play money? Hmm... I think you might be onto something.

Now, you've been playing games for years, shooters, strategy games, and all that jazz. Additionally, gambling components like skin raffles and prize boxes are the icing on the cake for you. But consider this: isnt it ironic that these games have so much of the essence of gambling in them? You're absolutely correct! Money isnt usually the main factor. Occasionally, its just the excitement of the match. The unpredictable nature, the strategy, and the excitement! Furthermore, isnt it a surefire way to lose money to gamble for financial gain? Isnt it true, after all, that the house always wins? So why not just take pleasure in the game itself? The goal of the game ought to be to have fun, right?


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 10, 2023, 03:30:57 AM
Now in my opinion, from this alone, it is already known what exactly their intention is to come so that they get such a downturn, I think why they only consider the risk there as a small part that doesn't really matter is because they come with the wrong intention and mindset which is only focused on winning or to make money, not at all to find entertainment, I think this makes sense for them. Whereas on the other hand it is clear as we know and what I have mentioned above the casino has arranged everything, the percentage of wins is much lower than the loss that means the loss will continue to dominate, whatever method they use and they believe it will not fully affect. Usually people who come with this intention will definitely when they lose they will continue to play to catch up with the victory and to make up for the loss in the previous time, that's for sure.

Well the point is if our mindset is right and knows that the name of luck will not always come especially consistently then surely we will always think about how to reduce losses or prevent them in any way we can, and if you really want to continue gambling then you must really be able to be a gambler who is responsible for whatever happens, so that there are no regrets whatsoever.
That makes sense for them because they want to make money from their winnings. Even though they also know that gambling is for entertainment, they don't need to try hard just to gamble. And they also already know that the winning percentage is much lower than the losing percentage but they don't care because they think later they can win big. So they can recover their previous losses so that is what causes them to keep gambling. If they could realize this, they would not try so hard but just use gambling as a place to get entertainment.

This mindset must be changed because if our mindset is still like that, we will just go back to gambling with the same goals and nothing will change. We may lose more and not be responsible gamblers because we could spend more money just chasing those wins.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on October 10, 2023, 04:00:04 AM
That makes sense for them because they want to make money from their winnings. Even though they also know that gambling is for entertainment <...>

I just don't see the contradiction raised by the OP. Good gambling should be for entertainment, and betting money, and consequently being able to win more, gives it a touch of excitement. I think we've all played cards at one time or another, for example, to pass the time without betting money, but the moment you bet money there is more excitement.

The point is to do it responsibly and without thinking that gambling is a good way to make a living.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 10, 2023, 05:59:13 AM
I just don't see the contradiction raised by the OP. Good gambling should be for entertainment, and betting money, and consequently being able to win more, gives it a touch of excitement. I think we've all played cards at one time or another, for example, to pass the time without betting money, but the moment you bet money there is more excitement.

The point is to do it responsibly and without thinking that gambling is a good way to make a living.
It has to be like that, but like I said, they want to make money from gambling, so they decide to keep gambling with even more money. They think they can get a big win especially if they increase their bets to double. But actually, their risk of losing will also be greater than before. That is why they must be fully aware of how to treat gambling as entertainment and not gamble excessively. Apart from that, they must also have self-control and money and time limits when gambling to prevent large losses. And yes, gambling responsibly is what we can do to prevent losses and serious problems such as gambling addiction, which many people have experienced.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: len01 on October 10, 2023, 07:47:13 AM
It has to be like that, but like I said, they want to make money from gambling, so they decide to keep gambling with even more money. They think they can get a big win especially if they increase their bets to double. But actually, their risk of losing will also be greater than before. That is why they must be fully aware of how to treat gambling as entertainment and not gamble excessively. Apart from that, they must also have self-control and money and time limits when gambling to prevent large losses. And yes, gambling responsibly is what we can do to prevent losses and serious problems such as gambling addiction, which many people have experienced.
gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: BenCodie on October 10, 2023, 08:20:24 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


The forum advertising component is heavily funded by casinos. They make good money here because of people like you've described, those who don't even realize that the wool is over their eyes. The ones who think that they are gambling "for fun" and that they are there to spin the wheel, roll the dice or (not even) pull the crank just for the hell of it, and they just need the money to do so.

As others have said. Money is the vehicle...and you are totally right that without money, who would be playing these pointless games? Who would watch the slots tick just for free credits worth nothing?

I am sure that a casino with nothing but free credits existed, no one would play it except those who are hypnotized to the fullest extent...and if all casinos switched to free credits with no value, the industry would be dead in a heartbeat.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 10, 2023, 08:53:00 PM
If in gambling, winning money is being abstracted, then Many Casino will short down because almost every gambler is only gambling for the sake of earning money. I said earlier today that if there are probably those that are only gambling for fun, then it should only be 10%, while the rest, 90%, are gamblers that are gambling for the sake of making money. When I started gambling, I knew I usually felt very sad if I lost money. The reason is that I gambled more often then, just to make some extra money, but this time around, I am no longer a student and am also managing my business and making my money. I don't gamble more frequently like before, and anytime I even gamble now, it's not with a huge sum but only a little amount that doesn't affect me in any way if I lose it all.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 11, 2023, 04:03:03 AM
gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.
You are right in saying that each person who gambles must review their mindset so they can realize what mistakes they have made. If he sees that his mindset is different from his initial goal of gambling just for fun, he needs to correct it and return his goal to its original goal. He doesn't need to use gambling to make money, especially if he has experienced many losses while gambling. He should reduce his gambling activities to divert them to things that might be more beneficial for him. Maybe he could make money doing those other things so he wouldn't rely on gambling to make his money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: arwin100 on October 11, 2023, 07:04:01 AM
gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.
You are right in saying that each person who gambles must review their mindset so they can realize what mistakes they have made. If he sees that his mindset is different from his initial goal of gambling just for fun, he needs to correct it and return his goal to its original goal. He doesn't need to use gambling to make money, especially if he has experienced many losses while gambling. He should reduce his gambling activities to divert them to things that might be more beneficial for him. Maybe he could make money doing those other things so he wouldn't rely on gambling to make his money.

How can they realize their mistakes if they are denial with the result they get. Usually these people are blaming other people or the casino for bad faith they are experiencing but if they just teach theirselves to be always in control maybe those kind of people will not post something negative that can destroy the reputation of others. Initially the goal why people gamble is to have fun but there are some few newbies fall for the trap set by those influencers telling that its easy for them to earn some money playing on casino that's why some cannot cope up with unfortunate things happen to them and think negative to their experiences. If those guys just found a right group of people that can make them realize that gambling is not a easy rich scheme for them for sure they will not expect any huge outcome for gambling and use this as alternative way to find fun on their boring days.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Crypt0Gore on October 11, 2023, 08:22:03 AM
How other people feel about gambling is none of my business and make sure it's not yours too, because everyone is entitled to their feelings and opinions, I don't need to hear lies or truth from anyone, I am in gambling for myself, and my reasons, not for others opinion about gambling, so if they like they should keep lying or they should start speaking the truth, it's none of my business.

Still, here is MY opinion about gambling

You can't force someone to gain fun out of anything, even when you play video games they might be less fun to you because you don't like it or you are not just into it, yet you will see someone else hailing the game maker for a job well done, some people hate video games and some love video games, the reason why they hate is unknown.

Now if you are a gambler, the reason why you become one is either you want to make money or you plan to get rich in gambling, gambling has everything to do with the mind, and average gamblers are likely to defeat addiction than someone who have made up his mind to get rich in gambling.

I believe making money is why ninety-nine percent of people are into gambling, but some are smart to gain fun out of it while they gamble, it's their choice, and some people only want to see themselves win, they don't have time for the fun part.

Also how can someone get fun out of something that takes your money? That's if the money they use to place the bets are just a tip of their monthly earnings, they don't care about the losses because it's like giving up some dollars for kids to buy lollipop at the roadside, the way you handle gambling is the way gambling is going to handle you.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: redsun114 on October 11, 2023, 08:42:30 AM
There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  :D
That's exactly what it is when you are gambling for fun, you are basically free from every stress that most gamblers have, like, what if I lose all the money? What if I can't make anything? When you are gambling for fun and have a specific budget for it, you have no obligations, you don't need to reach a target, you don't need to chase your losses, and you don't need to gamble with care so you don't lose all the money, all you need to do is find the best games and best ways that you can use to have some fun and that's it.

People say that those who gamble for fun also care for wins, of course they do, how would it make any sense if they don't enjoy the wins? Nobody plays for losing, even if you are playing a game for fun, your primary goal is to win because that is where the actual fun is, you enjoy the game and then get a win, and that increases the joy.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 12, 2023, 02:21:20 AM
How can they realize their mistakes if they are denial with the result they get. Usually these people are blaming other people or the casino for bad faith they are experiencing but if they just teach theirselves to be always in control maybe those kind of people will not post something negative that can destroy the reputation of others. Initially the goal why people gamble is to have fun but there are some few newbies fall for the trap set by those influencers telling that its easy for them to earn some money playing on casino that's why some cannot cope up with unfortunate things happen to them and think negative to their experiences. If those guys just found a right group of people that can make them realize that gambling is not a easy rich scheme for them for sure they will not expect any huge outcome for gambling and use this as alternative way to find fun on their boring days.
When they can introspect what they have gained from gambling and can think, then they can realize their mistakes. And if they realize that they have made a mistake, they want to correct it so they don't repeat it. This requires awareness and desire to do it but this is not easy because people tend to forget it and still gamble in the same way and there needs to be awareness to correct previous mistakes. If they only blame other people for their losses in gambling, they will only get deeper into gambling without any awareness of being able to change what has gone wrong. They don't think that it is due to a lack of awareness in acting and is just based on their lust because they have seen videos showing the wins of influencers. At least, they can think that ordinary people will not easily achieve the win of these influencers. Moreover, if there is collaboration between the influencer and the casino, the influencer's job is to influence people who watch the video to follow what the influencer is doing. People need to realize this so that they don't try to gamble seriously and only think of it as entertainment.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: uneng on October 12, 2023, 02:41:55 AM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
The point here is that the POSSIBILITY of making profit from gambling makes the game entertaining. You don't have to always win, but just to have a chance of leaving with more money on your pockets than you came in, it's already a rewarding mindset for many gamblers who practice this hobby for years and even decades, without harming their finances, social relationships and their emotional.

The problem is that there is a new generation who was introduced to gambling just now and think they are entitled to always win, otherwise gambling is bad, should be banned and everyone involved on this industry is guilty for my losses...

The only truth is that gambling isn't designed to be a job or extra income method.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Webetcoins on October 14, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
The only way to make free money in gambling is by winning through a free bet or a bonus but usually it's only given right after we sign up. There are other forms of bonuses who are given rarely like every week, every two week, and lastly per month.

We can as well get a free money out of them if we are lucky. Not all gamblers are proud of what they do and maybe they became a problematic gambler most of the times, that is why they hide it from the people and when they are being asked, they can lie and say they only play for fun. If I don't have a capital, I can sometimes play a gambling game in free/demo mode. I believe others do it too. So yes OP, people will still enjoy gambling if it's made to be a free game. It's the same, how we enjoy video games and other free to use/play entertainment.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Josefjix on October 14, 2023, 09:49:58 PM
There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  :D
We're humans and we have our targets to meet up for the days of our lives, not backing down on our dreams and ensuring we have achieved the necessities of life. Gambling have sent many gamblers back to trenches and have also brighten up the wise ones. Always bear in mind that gambling can mutilply our initial capital deposited and capable of liquidating our account within a blink of an eye. I've experience worst memories and incidents concerning the space, but holding firm and not giving up, this time I've gather the basic knowledge of gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: mirakal on October 14, 2023, 09:58:41 PM
There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  :D
But we all know that majority of the gamblers only gamble just to make profits, regardless if they are still being entertained or not. That’s how greedy the gamblers are. The only difference is that some gamblers are able to manage their greed, while others have made their greed totally control theirselves. And when you are in the latter side, you know that you will definitely fall into gambling addiction that when not eagerly controlled, you will suffer from too much financial loss and even push you to do things out of your right thinking.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 14, 2023, 10:34:20 PM
There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  :D
But we all know that majority of the gamblers only gamble just to make profits, regardless if they are still being entertained or not. That’s how greedy the gamblers are. The only difference is that some gamblers are able to manage their greed, while others have made their greed totally control theirselves. And when you are in the latter side, you know that you will definitely fall into gambling addiction that when not eagerly controlled, you will suffer from too much financial loss and even push you to do things out of your right thinking.

it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Westinhome on October 14, 2023, 10:40:53 PM

it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.


The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Silberman on October 15, 2023, 08:18:12 PM
it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.
Those that do not gamble may think of gamblers as hypocrites due to the point you bring, however we can be both, a person that enjoys gambling just for the entertainment value that it offer to us, while at the same time we enjoy any profits that may come our way, after all who would not like to become a millionaire without having to work as hard as those people do? Obviously I would like that, but since I know it is very unlikely it will happen, especially with the low amount of money I use to bet, then I assume it will never happen and keep myself content by gambling just for the fun of it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: darkangel11 on October 15, 2023, 08:29:49 PM
The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.

Many people do it for entertainment or simply to kill time.
Some use it for the thrill, adrenaline.
Some others use it to enhance their experience while watching sports.

Saying that there's no fun in gambling is pure denial of people who lost, feel sad about it and want to explain the whole process to themselves.
I perosnally know many people who gamble for "fun" although their definition of fun differs and might not be what you, or OP, consider to be fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: BitcoinPanther on October 15, 2023, 09:29:09 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

So are you saying spending to entertainment and hobby like parties, watching movies, outing and hiking takes away the fun because one is intentionally throwing money just to have a good time and it is not worth doing it?

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Well if there is a game where I can win a prize without spending money then I would gladly participate. On the other side, if the game is worth playing even without any rewards then I do not mind playing.  Have you played MMORPG and games like mobile legend or DOTA and other MOBA games?  People get addicted to these kind of game even without money to gain in these games.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: swogerino on October 15, 2023, 09:35:59 PM

it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.


The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.

The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Silberman on October 19, 2023, 09:20:49 PM
The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.
This is a rational approach to gambling and in a perfect world it would work, but it is often the case that people are not really rational, and instead they are chasing their dreams by following their strongest inner desires, but this can be very problematic as in that case it is going to be very difficult to convince those people to not gamble or to at least to not do so in order to obtain profits, because deep down they believe there is a way for them to win, even when all the evidence points towards the opposite outcome.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: gunhell16 on October 19, 2023, 10:42:28 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


What is the purpose of casinos? What is the motivation for gamblers? There is only one solution to these two questions: "money." If there is no money, there will almost likely be no casino in this business, and if there is no casino, there will be no gamblers. However, there are other gamblers who can gamble even when they are not in a casino.

However, the gambler continues since "money" is still present. It appears that a gambler can be utilized for many things in order to gamble, and they can gamble because of "money," but how can this be caused by poverty? Others aim to become wealthy quickly by gambling or winning the lottery.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Westinhome on October 19, 2023, 10:47:29 PM

This is a rational approach to gambling and in a perfect world it would work, but it is often the case that people are not really rational, and instead they are chasing their dreams by following their strongest inner desires, but this can be very problematic as in that case it is going to be very difficult to convince those people to not gamble or to at least to not do so in order to obtain profits, because deep down they believe there is a way for them to win, even when all the evidence points towards the opposite outcome.

The gambler will have the positive approach to the gambling and mostly they won’t get into the rational approach on the gambling.The gambler who was new to the gambling will look the gambling in the different way,if the gambler loss the money in the random loss.Then the gambler get the rational thoughts in the gambling.The gambler should get into the pessimistic way of approach in the gambling,So they will win the game one day.But to win the game in the gambling ,he need to survive in the game.So the luck will favour the person who long survive in the gambling field.This was common to the most of the successful story.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Casdinyard on October 19, 2023, 10:52:25 PM
The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: lionheart78 on October 19, 2023, 11:25:32 PM
Many people do it for entertainment or simply to kill time.
Some use it for the thrill, adrenaline.
Some others use it to enhance their experience while watching sports.

Saying that there's no fun in gambling is pure denial of people who lost, feel sad about it and want to explain the whole process to themselves.
I perosnally know many people who gamble for "fun" although their definition of fun differs and might not be what you, or OP, consider to be fun.

I agree, that excitement, fun, and thrill, are things we experience in gambling.  Even those who lost in their gambling activities also feel these things too.  It is that these people are emphasizing on the bitter experience of losing forgetting how they once got excited about the first big wins they experienced.

The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.

Entertainment or winning for profit, they are both addictive.  This is one major reason gambling sites have a page for responsible gambling, it is that the casino is not emphasizing this thing and is more focused on giving bonuses and rewards to attract more players and I understand since it is a business and the owner's goal is to thrive.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on October 20, 2023, 12:00:10 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

We are in the same shoes. I like free money especially the legal ones. Anyone who has won money from casinos will understand this. The thoughts of draws is sometimes to the casino.

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Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Nothing wrong with that. It is their own choice. And some people actually just gamble for the fun of it but these people ai believe are senior citizens only.

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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

I'd be lying if I said yes. It will make it less fun. The money is the rewards. We as humans like rewards.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 20, 2023, 02:06:41 AM
The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.

And that is the big question here, are there gamblers that are responsible enough? Because as based on my experienced, even if you are winning huge already you don't want to quit and chase more because you think that you are lucky and looking for more money, so the greed part sets-in. And once you taste that big win, you can't get out of it that most of the time we become gambling addicts ourself.

So good for you if you feel great even if you lose in the long run and just have some fun along the way. But obviously, majority of the gamblers when they play, then want to win and win big, in my opinion.

Maybe each and everyone here is very difficult as far as they approach gambling. But if you continue to lose money just because you want to have some fun and entertainment? I'll just leave the open question.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 20, 2023, 08:58:59 AM
And that is the big question here, are there gamblers that are responsible enough? Because as based on my experienced, even if you are winning huge already you don't want to quit and chase more because you think that you are lucky and looking for more money, so the greed part sets-in. And once you taste that big win, you can't get out of it that most of the time we become gambling addicts ourself.

So good for you if you feel great even if you lose in the long run and just have some fun along the way. But obviously, majority of the gamblers when they play, then want to win and win big, in my opinion.

Maybe each and everyone here is very difficult as far as they approach gambling. But if you continue to lose money just because you want to have some fun and entertainment? I'll just leave the open question.
Getting a big win will only give a person pleasure, and he will want a bigger win. That will trigger him to play longer than usual because he sees that he still has a lot of money to continue gambling. It would be riskier because the winnings he had earned could be used until there was nothing left at all and that would only give him deep regret because he had wasted the winnings.

And it is true that most gamblers who have won big find it difficult to stop gambling. They will only see that they have already won and may be able to win again in the next round. Even though that was just the temptation they got and if his self-control was strong, he would not be tempted by that temptation and could leave the casino without thinking about gambling again.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Silberman on October 23, 2023, 06:13:58 AM
The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.
It requires a special kind of personality in order to give up on the idea of gambling to obtain profits, because even those that think of gambling as just a way to relax themselves want to win, this is what leads some of those people to present gambling issues, as slowly but surely that initial goal is subverted and eventually they begin to gamble in order to obtain profits without even realizing this has happened until it is too late, and a great deal of their wealth has been lost already.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Westinhome on October 23, 2023, 05:45:36 PM
The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.

The gambler who had enough money will be the responsible gambler most of the time.The person who had huge money will know the value of the money,the gambler who had less money will not respect the money he used for the betting.So the winning for the gambler will be favour the person who respect the money in the gambling sites.The poor gambler only target the big win and play the game continuously till the big win was achieved in the gambling.When the gambler had enough time to analysis the game,he should not do the random bet.The random bet never favour the winning for the gambler,So the gambler should ready to accept the loss in the gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: macson on October 23, 2023, 06:44:13 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

People's intentions in general are to gamble to make more money (usually those who still have just enough finances) but it cannot be denied that there are also some people who gamble just to have fun, they don't care about the money they spend when gambling, they want to boost their adrenaline and that has become their need.  if you go around large offline casinos, you will see many rich people whose income is very stable, gambling just for fun.  the conclusion that i can say is that everyone's reasons for gambling are different, and cannot be classified as one reason.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 28, 2023, 09:54:45 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

People's intentions in general are to gamble to make more money (usually those who still have just enough finances) but it cannot be denied that there are also some people who gamble just to have fun, they don't care about the money they spend when gambling, they want to boost their adrenaline and that has become their need.  if you go around large offline casinos, you will see many rich people whose income is very stable, gambling just for fun.  the conclusion that i can say is that everyone's reasons for gambling are different, and cannot be classified as one reason.

When we are in a casino, that is what we want to win every time we go to play, that is something that is noticeable and that is very normal, I would think that things can be like that, if basically things can happen as much as possible to win It is done, but all of us, what we should do is have fun and try to earn more money than we put in, if we achieve it, well, we have done it, otherwise we do not achieve it, then we must wait, for this we have I have to be clear about what I have said before in other threads, and that is that a higher index of:

1.-Budget willing to lose.

2.-Try to win.

3.-Have fun.

If in our case we do not win, then what we should do is not put more money to continue winning or playing, we must be respectful if our money runs out in that game session. We must play without falling into addiction, we must always consider playing to have fun and if we win then fine, but we also have to see what things we can improve on.

Every time we have a way of doing things better we have to adopt them, because even with the smallest mistakes we learn, so of course we will always try to make money, it is something that we cannot avoid, which is that the theme of games make us slow down our game a lot to win, it is normal, I have said many times that casinos are made to win, but they, the owners, because they are companies, they are businesses under which we have the best option to do anything, Now the casinos have many options that make us excited, because they have bonuses, and contests where any player can do their thing, and obviously we have to take advantage of that, so if we pay attention to that we can continue to improve, and I believe that Improve the game because the possibilities of winning money increase.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Agbamoni on October 28, 2023, 10:36:11 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Let me answer this question.

Fun, in general, is a feeling of enjoyment, amusement, or light-hearted pleasure. Money can be used to attain fun. People gamble for fun because there is always amusement and excitement when they win. They don't care about their losses. they are there solely for the amazing feeling of winning when their predictions are correct. Similarly, people willingly spend a huge amount of money when they go to clubs, parties, and participate in recreational activities, all in the name of fun. They don't feel regretful about the money they spend to derive that enjoyment. In the country where I come from, I pay money to play 8-ball pool because I don't have it at my house. Every evening, I dedicate time to go and play, even when I lose. I'm willing to pay more money to continue playing because I take pleasure in doing so.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Westinhome on October 28, 2023, 11:20:09 PM
Let me answer this question.

Fun, in general, is a feeling of enjoyment, amusement, or light-hearted pleasure. Money can be used to attain fun. People gamble for fun because there is always amusement and excitement when they win. They don't care about their losses. they are there solely for the amazing feeling of winning when their predictions are correct. Similarly, people willingly spend a huge amount of money when they go to clubs, parties, and participate in recreational activities, all in the name of fun. They don't feel regretful about the money they spend to derive that enjoyment. In the country where I come from, I pay money to play 8-ball pool because I don't have it at my house. Every evening, I dedicate time to go and play, even when I lose. I'm willing to pay more money to continue playing because I take pleasure in doing so.


The fun will not give pressure in the real world,even in the gambling.The taking of the fun or real world by the human may differ,the kid can miss their sleep to play the cricket game in the ground.But it may be seems the small one.But the dedication was the important factor in this incident,like wise the gambler should get dedicated to the gambling games.If he get dedicated to the game,he never worry about the small loss in the gambling.He will consider the gambling as the entertainment giving game and never considered this as the game which give regular income in the daily basis by participation of the game.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Davidvictorson on October 28, 2023, 11:27:53 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Maybe we really do not want the money but at some point our mind gets corrupted thinking what would happen if you win the money and what will happen if you don't. Money has value and therefore we are touched value to the game called gambling. I have not made any gambling who just combos for fun without any money or finto your financial rewards .


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: SmartGold01 on January 25, 2024, 12:59:05 AM
What brings people into gambling is money and when money is not there then we can say is just a merely game of wish because no body would like to waste their time to gamble what doesn't bring profits to them. You know people sticks on gambling site all time just to have that break through that they have won something large from gambling or has changed their life with gambling and most of the news shared here keeps motivating people to gamble more and that's is how people keeps coming to try their luck.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Barikui1 on January 25, 2024, 02:38:24 AM
It's all about the money, what will be the excitement when money is being removed from the equation? I know that it's quite normal that some people will not admit to the fact that they came for the money but it very obvious to everyone that have ever gambles that we actually have no interest in it, if  not  for the money involved.

As I saw this topic, am just trying to imagine what motivating factor that will compel people to still gambles if their is no money in it, I really don't see any, because gambling is all about money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: angrybirdy on January 25, 2024, 08:55:31 AM
What brings people into gambling is money and when money is not there then we can say is just a merely game of wish because no body would like to waste their time to gamble what doesn't bring profits to them. You know people sticks on gambling site all time just to have that break through that they have won something large from gambling or has changed their life with gambling and most of the news shared here keeps motivating people to gamble more and that's is how people keeps coming to try their luck.

In fact, what you mentioned is true, but sometimes, when a person likes the game he does, he doesn't care about the money whether he wins or not. let's admit that money makes us gamble but some people still choose their pleasure over money. So some say that gambling for them is just for enjoyment, but if we look at it, they often become irresponsible and often overspend money just to justify that they are doing gambling for their pleasure and when other people criticize them, they will argue that they are not addicted to gambling because they do not intend to win,  But they are doing it just to be happy.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: moneystery on January 25, 2024, 09:08:16 AM
What brings people into gambling is money and when money is not there then we can say is just a merely game of wish because no body would like to waste their time to gamble what doesn't bring profits to them. You know people sticks on gambling site all time just to have that break through that they have won something large from gambling or has changed their life with gambling and most of the news shared here keeps motivating people to gamble more and that's is how people keeps coming to try their luck.

not everyone gambles purely for money, some do it for entertainment or socializing at the casino. we cannot generalize to everyone that they gamble to make money. because even though all gamblers hope to get money from their gambling, there are some who don't care whether they get money or not from their gambling because the most important thing for them is how gambling can provide them with entertainment and improve their relationships with other people.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: rachael9385 on January 25, 2024, 09:19:25 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

I won't believe that gamble winnings are free money's, no they are not because you have risked your money to gamble and most times you also lose and when you accumulate those money that you have lost in gamble then you win, and how can you explain to us that gamble winnings are free money.
However, they might be free money for you but I wont take those winning as free money because I have risky highly for the winning,  even though one is betting for fun, it also called risking.

Moreover, there a set of people who use the money that they gave to get what they want, and this is only the reason why I have to believe that gambling might be for fun.
One might think that gambling is for fun so they will just have to use their money to get the fun but it can only be fun when the bettor is winning and not losing.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: junder on January 25, 2024, 09:20:13 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

People's intentions in general are to gamble to make more money (usually those who still have just enough finances) but it cannot be denied that there are also some people who gamble just to have fun, they don't care about the money they spend when gambling, they want to boost their adrenaline and that has become their need.  if you go around large offline casinos, you will see many rich people whose income is very stable, gambling just for fun.  the conclusion that i can say is that everyone's reasons for gambling are different, and cannot be classified as one reason.

I agree with you, because there are even people who have problems with their limited finances and they think of ways to make money quickly and a lot of them end up looking in the wrong direction, namely gambling, they tend to gamble hoping for a win that can be obtained to complete financial problems, but what they did was the wrong action, because even though they gambled for the reason of doubling their money, it does not guarantee that they will win at gambling, the casino will not look at the condition of the gambler.

in my opinion compared to people who gamble just for fun I think most of them gamble with the aim of winning, because that is the main goal of every gambler. There are few people who gamble without worrying about the money they lose in gambling, because what I know is that those who lose gambling are still gambling because they are still sure that there will be a win that they can get even though who knows when that will happen. You are right, the reasons why people gamble are different, but in my opinion the more dominant ones are people who gamble to chase victory, I am sure of that.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Apocollapse on January 25, 2024, 09:21:21 AM
not everyone gambles purely for money, some do it for entertainment or socializing at the casino. we cannot generalize to everyone that they gamble to make money. because even though all gamblers hope to get money from their gambling, there are some who don't care whether they get money or not from their gambling because the most important thing for them is how gambling can provide them with entertainment and improve their relationships with other people.
Socializing at the casino only happen if you gamble on land based casino, here we're discuss about online casino. Yeah you could argue you can socialize in online casino by chatting with other gamblers, but I don't see any point with that.

In land based casino, you're looking for rich people and make a relationship with them which usually related to business.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Franctoshi on January 25, 2024, 09:36:28 AM

Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Yes, once we put money, naturally everyone would want to win, but let me put something clear to you op, when you gamble with the money which you can't afford to lose, them in my opinion I will say you no longer gamble for fun, but basically, you gamble for the money, but when they say gamble for fun it means, winning or no win you are good and not with the hope of becoming rich, many gamble thinking that they will hit jackpot and become rich overnight in gambling.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

When  you remove money it no longer gambling.



Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Ultegra134 on January 25, 2024, 10:58:10 AM
It's all about the money, what will be the excitement when money is being removed from the equation? I know that it's quite normal that some people will not admit to the fact that they came for the money but it very obvious to everyone that have ever gambles that we actually have no interest in it, if  not  for the money involved.

As I saw this topic, am just trying to imagine what motivating factor that will compel people to still gambles if their is no money in it, I really don't see any, because gambling is all about money.
Indeed, the entertaining part is included in the possibility of making money out of it. There was recently a thread asking if we'd still gamble if money wasn't involved; there wouldn't be a single reason to even consider it if it wasn't providing us with the chance of earning something from it. I believe it goes without saying, and no one is hiding that, as the OP is suggesting. I'm not too confident that we'll actually manage to earn anything decent from gambling; I'm mostly using smaller amounts, so I'm not expecting to become rich overnight, but the thrill and the suspense of the immense possibilities are what get us going.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Strongkored on January 25, 2024, 11:29:43 AM

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Money is the main reason people gamble even though they don't say it, but always when they start gambling they will think about the money they will win, and people who think gambling is just for fun doesn't mean they don't think about money but what they mean is how they can receive very well every outcome they get, if they win, be grateful and stop, even though there may still be a chance to win bigger, likewise, when you lose, you can accept it and stop without thinking about recovering your losses.
The problem is when the mind is always dominated by the desire to win and cannot accept defeat and tries to recover from defeat so that the situation becomes increasingly bad because it is controlled by greed and refuses to accept the facts that happened that they had lost more money than they could afford.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: arwin100 on January 25, 2024, 11:38:57 AM
not everyone gambles purely for money, some do it for entertainment or socializing at the casino. we cannot generalize to everyone that they gamble to make money. because even though all gamblers hope to get money from their gambling, there are some who don't care whether they get money or not from their gambling because the most important thing for them is how gambling can provide them with entertainment and improve their relationships with other people.
Socializing at the casino only happen if you gamble on land based casino, here we're discuss about online casino. Yeah you could argue you can socialize in online casino by chatting with other gamblers, but I don't see any point with that.

In land based casino, you're looking for rich people and make a relationship with them which usually related to business.

Its how you build your connection and it will be beneficial to them if they can connect with a lot of people especially those whales since they might get benefited on the relationship they build that's why its really fine to socialized on online casino since it might give benefits to them.

How much more in land based casino where they can easily spot those rich people gambling since for that they could provably connect with them and deal something beneficial for both as they can somehow create relationship especially on business matter. Its just those innocent gambler don't know the other benefits of what they do that's why other focus to earn money on gambling and forgot the wider scope which can benefit them more. i know its not for everyone but if they want to create a career from gambling they must socialize and widen up their connections.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: MainIbem on January 25, 2024, 12:27:28 PM

Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Yes, once we put money, naturally everyone would want to win, but let me put something clear to you op, when you gamble with the money which you can't afford to lose, them in my opinion I will say you no longer gamble for fun, but basically, you gamble for the money, but when they say gamble for fun it means, winning or no win you are good and not with the hope of becoming rich, many gamble thinking that they will hit jackpot and become rich overnight in gambling.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

When  you remove money it no longer gambling.



Money is the main purpose of gambling and everyone love money to gamble without involving money people won't pay attention to it, when you gamble just for fun you will see that there will be no much stress or lost. Money is the sole motivator of all gamblers and no one would want to gamble without receiving money from every bet placed, and gambling has been in existence for several years sometimes I do say that gambling is in human nature.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Hirose UK on January 25, 2024, 12:33:57 PM
It's all about the money, what will be the excitement when money is being removed from the equation? I know that it's quite normal that some people will not admit to the fact that they came for the money but it very obvious to everyone that have ever gambles that we actually have no interest in it, if  not  for the money involved.

As I saw this topic, am just trying to imagine what motivating factor that will compel people to still gambles if their is no money in it, I really don't see any, because gambling is all about money.
No, maybe what you said is true but not all gamblers come because of the money and this can be proven by the attitude of gamblers who gamble because they have fun and are able to accept every loss.
If all aspects are just for certain amount of money then it is clear that gamblers will never be able to accept their losses and of course there will be efforts to recover losses, but look at us here, most gamblers bet to be able to get pleasure and satisfaction.
And so far the gamblers who really link every bet just for money are the gamblers out there and it has been clearly proven how they are gamblers only chasing victory in every bet they make.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Peanutswar on January 25, 2024, 12:39:45 PM
Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

It depends on how to treat gambling, people gamble because they want to have fun's gambling real purpose is, to give entertainment to the players, but few of them treat gambling as one of the possible sources of income because in just a single game you can hit a hundred or thousand multiplier that's why they take it more seriously, but if you are just a casual gambler want to have fun without having the bet i guess still ideal to you to play a game without money involve just pure fun. Money is just additional to make the game more spicy.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 25, 2024, 01:07:37 PM
What brings people into gambling is money and when money is not there then we can say is just a merely game of wish because no body would like to waste their time to gamble what doesn't bring profits to them. You know people sticks on gambling site all time just to have that break through that they have won something large from gambling or has changed their life with gambling and most of the news shared here keeps motivating people to gamble more and that's is how people keeps coming to try their luck.

not everyone gambles purely for money, some do it for entertainment or socializing at the casino. we cannot generalize to everyone that they gamble to make money. because even though all gamblers hope to get money from their gambling, there are some who don't care whether they get money or not from their gambling because the most important thing for them is how gambling can provide them with entertainment and improve their relationships with other people.
But I guess majority might be looking to win when they gamble, and obviously, it's one of our motivation why we gamble, admit it or not. And if you talk about social activity, yes, if we wanted to enhance our experience, whether playing in a offline/online casino, we should look for financial gains as it adds another layer of interest to us. In cases that you define that there are gamblers who doesn't care about the money, maybe there are only a few of them. However, you look at it, they are still losing money so I don't know what will be their motivation, maybe to enjoy and have some fun, but there's none of that if you are losing money. But I guess the bottom line is, there could be negative aspect of gambling, and so each and everyone should be responsible enough as not to fall into being an addict.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Miles2006 on January 25, 2024, 01:31:04 PM
I don't agree with this cause I have seen wealthy men gamble like they're super rich and still get involve in gambling, giving their money out is not a problem but if any day turns out to be a lucky day then they'll definitely cashout the money, if you gamble for the money doesn't mean others gamble for the money like what you said, even if I'm so interested in the money I will not make it look so obvious to the extend of selling my  property, it sounds so stupid. Of course no one will freely deposit their money without expecting something in return this is just natural but the way you sound makes it look like if I don't win then I will cry or kill myself, that's what you're trying to say.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: swogerino on January 25, 2024, 01:45:36 PM
It's all about the money, what will be the excitement when money is being removed from the equation? I know that it's quite normal that some people will not admit to the fact that they came for the money but it very obvious to everyone that have ever gambles that we actually have no interest in it, if  not  for the money involved.

As I saw this topic, am just trying to imagine what motivating factor that will compel people to still gambles if their is no money in it, I really don't see any, because gambling is all about money.

Well I think we are all for the money in the beginning,then someone thinks that he is entitled to keep playing to win or try to win that maximal prize of the multiplier in a slot machine.This type of person finds it difficult to think that he is constantly losing money rather they focus on what can be possible won through game play.By doing so these type of persons are also the most vulnerables regarding to may be falling prey of addiction.The people who realize they are constantly losing quit but unfortunately such persons are very few compared to those who quit.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 25, 2024, 02:03:36 PM
It depends on how to treat gambling, people gamble because they want to have fun's gambling real purpose is, to give entertainment to the players, but few of them treat gambling as one of the possible sources of income because in just a single game you can hit a hundred or thousand multiplier that's why they take it more seriously, but if you are just a casual gambler want to have fun without having the bet i guess still ideal to you to play a game without money involve just pure fun. Money is just additional to make the game more spicy.
It's no longer a gambling if money isn't involved. ;)

When people get older, they prefer to not wasting their times, if they only predict without earn anything, it's no longer fun anymore. That's why matured people are often gamble, even it's as low as a candy lol.

As long as they gamble without exceed their limits, they will be fine.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Synchronice on January 25, 2024, 02:12:16 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
It's normal and logical to have a wish to win from gambling, that's absolutely what everyone wants but that doesn't mean that there aren't people who just gamble for fun. Just take a millionaire for example that gambles. Does he expect to earn additional millions via gambling? No, he just gambles for fun because he has so much money that loses in casino won't affect him negatively but that doesn't mean that that person doesn't think about winning. It will be a nice benefit for a millionaire to win in casino, that's true. Winning is just a bonus to get some money back and prolong your gambling experience.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 25, 2024, 02:13:20 PM

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
That is why it is recommended to use only extra money when gambling. There actually two reasons why we gamble and that is to make extra profit and at the same time we get boring and wanted to have a past time so therefore you have the chance to win while enjoying the game. So, what if we lose, is there still the essense of enjoying the game? Well, this depends on you, if you do understand how gambling works then you might accept the fact that sometimes we win and lose.


Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
Of course I will still participate but what is the essense of gambling without money being involved? Let's assume no money involve in gambling then it's when people will feel boring for having no reward at all so basically this will make gambling a pure entertainment if that happens.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: len01 on January 25, 2024, 03:19:14 PM
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
after I became a healthy gambler, I gambled just for fun, but I admit that I also said I should try my luck.
you can see in several threads I often say I gamble for fun and to try my luck with an amount I can afford to lose because not most of what I use to bet is money from my income but more often from the results of campaigns or sometimes there are also football matches good ball I will use a budget from my own income but stick with 5%.

surely there will be no more gamblers if gambling turns into something that does not provide anything interesting or we only pay to gamble but gambling will never provide a return.
It's the same as when you intend to buy food at a restaurant but when you pay for the food but the food is not given to you and you can only look at the food without being able to eat it.
just like gambling and surely all gamblers will leave and not bet again.

I also admit that this is all about money, but the word having fun is a manifestation that we are only betting to try our luck, but if we lose, we never feel regret because it is only a small amount.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Onyeeze on January 25, 2024, 03:29:36 PM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

The objective of we to gamble is to make money is not to catch fun, catching in gambling is what people who lose frequently in gambling use to give themselves hope, so I believe that gambling is something we have to know and understand the concept totally,so believing gambling that is what gives joy, those concept is totally false, because the major reasons we gamble and stake big amounts of funds in gambling is because we really wants money and I want us to understand that nobody plays gambling because of entertainment the main aim of gambling is to make money not for fun or entertainment because if we should give the statistics of someone who is gambling


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: rahmad2nd on January 25, 2024, 04:00:59 PM
What brings people into gambling is money and when money is not there then we can say is just a merely game of wish because no body would like to waste their time to gamble what doesn't bring profits to them. You know people sticks on gambling site all time just to have that break through that they have won something large from gambling or has changed their life with gambling and most of the news shared here keeps motivating people to gamble more and that's is how people keeps coming to try their luck.

It cannot be denied, what you say is true. the fact is that what brings us to gambling is money, but in essence it is not as simple as you convey in this post. First of all, I will say first, below I agree with what you said. especially for points if it's not for money, then it's just a normal game and most people don't want to waste their time for nothing. moreover, if there are no benefits that we can get from the game.
but actually money is actually just a tool, yeah, a tool that allows us to do various things with money, including gambling. with money we can gamble, and because of money we gamble. but, apart from that, there is actually a game that we can play and it might be fun for most gamblers. whether it's live casino games, slots or even football betting. we gamble for fun, with all the features provided plus we can double the money we bet.

Well, for me this is all very complex because everything is mutually sustainable even though basically it all comes down to money. yeah, as the OP said in this thread. Anyway, actually it's not just money that is always a priority. there are many people out there who do it for fun, even though they are willing to spend a lot of money in exchange for the entertainment they get. whether they win or lose, the point is they want to get satisfaction and the bonus is to get money from their winnings. in essence, we can change our own perspective regarding gambling, money and fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Kliss on January 25, 2024, 04:13:05 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.
98% of gamblers, are people who intend to make profit from gambling. Actually, I don't think if there was no money or rewards in gambling the game itself will not be interesting. To win money or rewards, that is what interest people to invest their money on the game if there was no probability of winning money it will be like a football league or other competitions without the intention of winning a trophy. The money or rewards in gambling which you can win is what makes the game beautiful and interesting.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: decodx on January 25, 2024, 04:17:56 PM
Socializing at the casino only happen if you gamble on land based casino, here we're discuss about online casino. Yeah you could argue you can socialize in online casino by chatting with other gamblers, but I don't see any point with that.

In land based casino, you're looking for rich people and make a relationship with them which usually related to business.

Well, if you look at it that way, then you can say the same about all social networks?
But I actually think chatting with fellow gamblers can be pretty fun and social and  the poker tournament scene kinda feels like a community sometimes.  I've made a few friends in invite-only poker rooms before.  

But yeah, some folks just wanna gamble solo without the social stuff getting in the way.  And that's totally fine too.  If you just want to play some games alone, online casinos give you that flexibility.  Still, for those of us who like some friendly table chat mixed in with our cards these sites can actually help us connect more than we might think.  Either way works though.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: uneng on January 25, 2024, 04:36:22 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.
98% of gamblers, are people who intend to make profit from gambling. Actually, I don't think if there was no money or rewards in gambling the game itself will not be interesting. To win money or rewards, that is what interest people to invest their money on the game if there was no probability of winning money it will be like a football league or other competitions without the intention of winning a trophy. The money or rewards in gambling which you can win is what makes the game beautiful and interesting.
High executives, pensioners, heirs, government's officials, celebrities, politicians, that is, all these folks who have a fixed source of income, many contracts, a lot of influence and don't need to worry about money will have a good time gambling, because even though they are likely to lose on long run, like everyone else, they won't wake up on the next day suffering from severe headache and anxiety because they lost money which was going to be used to pay for the children school's monthly fee, or the electricity or water bills of the house. Those rich gamblers are going to lose huge sums of money and won't even get concerned about it on the following day. So how can anyone say these people aren't having fun while gambling, although they are still into losses?

The problem is when the poor gambler wants to play on the same intensity of the rich gambler. He doesn't have financial conditions to do so, his life is much harsh, he is probably by himself with a family to carry on his shoulders. Then, of course besides losing money gambling, this individual isn't going to have a good time, after all.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: borovichok on January 25, 2024, 04:37:28 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.

You are 100% correct. Most people argue that it is not possible to gamble for fun but I don't support that notion. Just as you have said, people support their team by staking in their team and even after losing they are not bordered about the money lost but angry that their team lost. However, it should be made clear that only the rich can gamble for fun because they have the resources to throw away but this is not so with the poor. 


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 25, 2024, 04:41:31 PM
I don't agree with this cause I have seen wealthy men gamble like they're super rich and still get involve in gambling, giving their money out is not a problem but if any day turns out to be a lucky day then they'll definitely cashout the money, if you gamble for the money doesn't mean others gamble for the money like what you said, even if I'm so interested in the money I will not make it look so obvious to the extend of selling my  property, it sounds so stupid. Of course no one will freely deposit their money without expecting something in return this is just natural but the way you sound makes it look like if I don't win then I will cry or kill myself, that's what you're trying to say.
Money is a factor in someone getting involved in gambling even though at first they don't think about money matters. But as time goes by and they become more involved in gambling, they realize that they can win some money, even a lot of money. But if you don't have a lot of money, it's best not to gamble because it could make you lose all the money you have and that's painful. But some people sell their property just to gamble and make money and these are the people who don't think about themselves anymore and just fall deeper into gambling. We must be able to avoid this because sooner or later, we will experience even bigger problems that we will find difficult to overcome. And if we really want to gamble, we should prepare as much money as we can afford so that we won't gamble more than we can afford.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Zoomic on January 25, 2024, 04:44:56 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.
98% of gamblers, are people who intend to make profit from gambling. Actually, I don't think if there was no money or rewards in gambling the game itself will not be interesting. To win money or rewards, that is what interest people to invest their money on the game if there was no probability of winning money it will be like a football league or other competitions without the intention of winning a trophy. The money or rewards in gambling which you can win is what makes the game beautiful and interesting.

Well said.
Someone can actually pay money to go to the movies, watch whatever movie they have for that day and go home satisfied. Isn't that a waste of money also? Most times, I prefer to watch matches at football viewing centres. When the match gets tough, someone in the crowd will stand up and place bets on his favourite team to win. Whoever is equal to the task can challenge the first person by staking a higher amount for his own team to win. This is an informal kind of gambling and it is fun to watch. At the end of the match, the Victor takes everything and everyone goes home excited, even the gambler who lost.

I am not denying the fact that every gambler's eye is on the money to be won, yea! Money is the prize you get when you win. I am a gambler, I enjoy it when I make predictions and it becomes accurate. Gambling does not pay my bills yet I love it. Everyone have their motives for gambling and I totally respect whatever their motives are. But I will always advice that we gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: boty on January 25, 2024, 05:01:07 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.

You are 100% correct. Most people argue that it is not possible to gamble for fun but I don't support that notion. Just as you have said, people support their team by staking in their team and even after losing they are not bordered about the money lost but angry that their team lost. However, it should be made clear that only the rich can gamble for fun because they have the resources to throw away but this is not so with the poor. 
Those who cannot consider gambling just for fun, of course they too often expect to win in every bet they play and most of their bets cannot win, so gambling is not a place to get pleasure for them because it is very difficult to win.
For people who have a lot of wealth, of course they won't gamble too often and they only do it when they have free time and never worry about winning or losing.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Marykeller on January 25, 2024, 05:35:34 PM
Money on gambling makes it exciting to play even though gamblers at times lose money to it. We can't forget the fact each of us wants to win money from gambling no matter how small it is. However, what  are we going to do in the time of our idle moments, is it not for us to try our luck on gambling to check whether we can win some money for ourselves to use the money won to hang out with some friends since the money won or lose from gambling is not what someone will use to build a house since the money used to bet, is always a little money, not a big money


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: cabron on January 25, 2024, 05:36:14 PM
Gambling, can be fun to an  extent to some persons Especially to those who are rich and wealthy. I have come across rich politicians, business men, and Rich guys who just want to bet on their American football teams, basketball team ,football teams or countries to win not thinking about making profit at mind but just another way of supporting and love for their teams.

You are 100% correct. Most people argue that it is not possible to gamble for fun but I don't support that notion. Just as you have said, people support their team by staking in their team and even after losing they are not bordered about the money lost but angry that their team lost. However, it should be made clear that only the rich can gamble for fun because they have the resources to throw away but this is not so with the poor. 
Those who cannot consider gambling just for fun, of course they too often expect to win in every bet they play and most of their bets cannot win, so gambling is not a place to get pleasure for them because it is very difficult to win.
For people who have a lot of wealth, of course they won't gamble too often and they only do it when they have free time and never worry about winning or losing.

A rich man bet on a match because he supports his sports team?  It can't be right unless he publicly lets everyone know about it him throwing some cash to support a team, is he running for office? if so then he is betting on himself.

Anyone who wants to gamble for fun can make gambling fun while also wanting to make money. There is no fun in losing money believe it or not.
We are old enough to realize that we do a lot of things to benefit and gambling is just one which is to make profit.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: klidex on January 26, 2024, 01:29:23 AM
Gambling will always involve money, if we don't have money then we can't gamble, just like if we don't have money then we can't eat or can't buy anything we need. In life everything requires money like we playing games need coins to put into the machine that we bought with money and the Timezone game in the mall also requires money to play. Likewise, when gambling, we use money to play, think of it as if you are having fun and if you lose your money then let it go because gambling was created to gain profit for its owner.

Never consider gambling to make a profit because it is impossible for us to get it, but if you aim to have fun and then get a profit accidentally, just think of it as your bonus so that you don't get addicted to continuing to gamble and make a profit, some people understand how gambling works. but only a few people really apply it and we all here have to be more careful not to overdo it when you enjoy your pleasure too much.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: wxa7115 on January 26, 2024, 02:47:02 AM
Well said.
Someone can actually pay money to go to the movies, watch whatever movie they have for that day and go home satisfied. Isn't that a waste of money also? Most times, I prefer to watch matches at football viewing centres. When the match gets tough, someone in the crowd will stand up and place bets on his favourite team to win. Whoever is equal to the task can challenge the first person by staking a higher amount for his own team to win. This is an informal kind of gambling and it is fun to watch. At the end of the match, the Victor takes everything and everyone goes home excited, even the gambler who lost.

I am not denying the fact that every gambler's eye is on the money to be won, yea! Money is the prize you get when you win. I am a gambler, I enjoy it when I make predictions and it becomes accurate. Gambling does not pay my bills yet I love it. Everyone have their motives for gambling and I totally respect whatever their motives are. But I will always advice that we gamble responsibly.
This is why it makes no sense to me why people are unable to understand that we want to gamble for the fun we can get out of it, now it is true that I would prefer if things went my way, but this logic is applicable to everything as well, and yet we can accept the fact that this is not the case.

So a person can do both things at the same time, we may want to win at gambling, but we can also do it for the fun of it, even when the results we obtain are negative.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Judith87403 on January 26, 2024, 07:13:13 AM
Money on gambling makes it exciting to play even though gamblers at times lose money to it. We can't forget the fact each of us wants to win money from gambling no matter how small it is. However, what  are we going to do in the time of our idle moments, is it not for us to try our luck on gambling to check whether we can win some money for ourselves to use the money won to hang out with some friends since the money won or lose from gambling is not what someone will use to build a house since the money used to bet, is always a little money, not a big money

Absolutely,but there are some person that does not consider gambling as fun,they normally have this strong feeling that gamble can change there life some day.
And in this case they will keep gambling,I have seen some people considering  a gambler as someone who is useless,well you can only be considered useless if you rap it all over your head,without even knowing that is just part of fun.
Unlike some rich people,they can place a bet and they can decide not to check the ticket, until the whole  match is over,but most people once they placed a bet they will be working all round the community looking for where to check there ticket,mean while the games are still pending.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on January 26, 2024, 07:22:48 AM
This makes me think of a good topic for gambling. Others bet just for fun, while most bet to win money. Those who bet need money.

Spreading money around just for fun is not a good "spirit of goodwill." Win more money by betting. Gaining money from games makes them more fun.

After losing their money, many people who bet would stop. It's appealing to bet because people believe they can win money. Bonuses and rewards that give money to players get them excited and motivated.

Not many people enjoy playing games for fun, but many do it to make money.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on January 26, 2024, 03:46:56 PM
The objective of we to gamble is to make money is not to catch fun, catching in gambling is what people who lose frequently in gambling use to give themselves hope, so I believe that gambling is something we have to know and understand the concept totally,so believing gambling that is what gives joy, those concept is totally false, because the major reasons we gamble and stake big amounts of funds in gambling is because we really wants money and I want us to understand that nobody plays gambling because of entertainment the main aim of gambling is to make money not for fun or entertainment because if we should give the statistics of someone who is gambling
Everyone starts gambling in the first place for entertainment but gradually when the amount of gambling becomes more then the person becomes addicted to gambling without his knowledge. Then he wants to win every time in gambling but in gambling no one can guarantee that he will get from gambling.  You can make profit. Some time you will gain while gambling and some time you will face loss. Now if we can't accept loss it can cause big problem for us.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: slapper on January 26, 2024, 06:11:43 PM
Gambling will always involve money, if we don't have money then we can't gamble, just like if we don't have money then we can't eat or can't buy anything we need. In life everything requires money like we playing games need coins to put into the machine that we bought with money and the Timezone game in the mall also requires money to play. Likewise, when gambling, we use money to play, think of it as if you are having fun and if you lose your money then let it go because gambling was created to gain profit for its owner.

Never consider gambling to make a profit because it is impossible for us to get it, but if you aim to have fun and then get a profit accidentally, just think of it as your bonus so that you don't get addicted to continuing to gamble and make a profit, some people understand how gambling works. but only a few people really apply it and we all here have to be more careful not to overdo it when you enjoy your pleasure too much.
Like any type of pleasure, gambling has its place in society, but it requires responsibility and understanding. Make no mistake: money is a tool, not merely for gambling. Not the destination, but a means. Gambling is like a dance with chance - enjoyable but not so much that we lose our balance.

Seeing gambling as a hobby rather than a definite way to get money is important. Game excitement and chance tension flavour the experience. Our lives don't need excessive gambling, just like a well-seasoned meal doesn't need salt. This is about moderation and knowing when to stop. This protects our mental and emotional wellness, not just our finances. So gamble for fun and excitement, but don't forget our lives, loved ones, and futures. Not just coins or cards, but our experiences and relationships are what matter.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Awaklara on January 26, 2024, 06:20:30 PM
The objective of we to gamble is to make money is not to catch fun, catching in gambling is what people who lose frequently in gambling use to give themselves hope, so I believe that gambling is something we have to know and understand the concept totally,so believing gambling that is what gives joy, those concept is totally false, because the major reasons we gamble and stake big amounts of funds in gambling is because we really wants money and I want us to understand that nobody plays gambling because of entertainment the main aim of gambling is to make money not for fun or entertainment because if we should give the statistics of someone who is gambling
Everyone starts gambling in the first place for entertainment but gradually when the amount of gambling becomes more then the person becomes addicted to gambling without his knowledge. Then he wants to win every time in gambling but in gambling no one can guarantee that he will get from gambling.  You can make profit. Some time you will gain while gambling and some time you will face loss. Now if we can't accept loss it can cause big problem for us.
When you don't want to lose in a gambling game, then don't gamble. because gambling is a game with betting. I think all gamblers should be aware of all that. they realize that their money could be lost. they realize they can be addicted. but believe me, everything happens without realizing it when a gambler starts to become addicted.
you may have a concept for fun. but something fun has an addictive effect when we have no control. pleasure must have limits, and sometimes we as gamblers break these limits.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Gozie51 on January 26, 2024, 06:29:54 PM

Everyone starts gambling in the first place for entertainment but gradually when the amount of gambling becomes more then the person becomes addicted to gambling without his knowledge. Then he wants to win every time in gambling but in gambling no one can guarantee that he will get from gambling.  You can make profit. Some time you will gain while gambling and some time you will face loss. Now if we can't accept loss it can cause big problem for us.

Trying to win all the time shows that the gambler will be losing most times because a loss will lead to chasing to recover and as you do that emotions starts coming in to get you further confused. If you get in the game of gambling and you are losing, the best thing to do is to stop and not to continue till when you have been emotionally stable. So playing with the believe that there is a guarantee that you won't lose is a fallacy, have an open mind to what you bet either you win or you lose and that is why you have to bet responsibly.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: salad daging on January 26, 2024, 06:58:26 PM
Everyone starts gambling in the first place for entertainment but gradually when the amount of gambling becomes more then the person becomes addicted to gambling without his knowledge. Then he wants to win every time in gambling but in gambling no one can guarantee that he will get from gambling.  You can make profit. Some time you will gain while gambling and some time you will face loss. Now if we can't accept loss it can cause big problem for us.
Trying to win all the time shows that the gambler will be losing most times because a loss will lead to chasing to recover and as you do that emotions starts coming in to get you further confused. If you get in the game of gambling and you are losing, the best thing to do is to stop and not to continue till when you have been emotionally stable. So playing with the believe that there is a guarantee that you won't lose is a fallacy, have an open mind to what you bet either you win or you lose and that is why you have to bet responsibly.
There is no winning all the time because gambling is difficult for us to predict when we win, it's just that when they often lose, they often increase their bets to make up for previous losses, this will be a problem because with greed and emotions making them uncontrollable, it is difficult to say that he is irresponsible with his indiscipline.

If you lose a large amount then rest the best solution while calming his emotional and it's true we must be able to train this otherwise it will be more messy you are in the circle of gambling.
Determine a fixed bankroll, if the bankroll is exhausted then rest is a much better solution.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 26, 2024, 07:23:21 PM
We can't lie to the fact that one of the things that makes gambling look attractive is that there is "money" as the object of winning and this is also a big reason why many people come to engage in this activity, basically all living humans need money and when they see a place that provides opportunities to get money then obviously there will be many people who come with the same intention and purpose which is to get or multiply the money they bring. On the other hand, it is not uncommon to hear that people come to seek entertainment, but aren't there quite a lot of other types of entertainment that are also fun and without involving risk? So I think this "fun" is something that might be used as an excuse, but on the other hand I would also say that it could be that some people who bring the idea of fun in gambling are indirectly aiming to brainwash them and convince their subconscious that this activity should not be taken seriously or excessively.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 28, 2024, 01:36:11 AM
We can't lie to the fact that one of the things that makes gambling look attractive is that there is "money" as the object of winning and this is also a big reason why many people come to engage in this activity, basically all living humans need money and when they see a place that provides opportunities to get money then obviously there will be many people who come with the same intention and purpose which is to get or multiply the money they bring. On the other hand, it is not uncommon to hear that people come to seek entertainment, but aren't there quite a lot of other types of entertainment that are also fun and without involving risk? So I think this "fun" is something that might be used as an excuse, but on the other hand I would also say that it could be that some people who bring the idea of fun in gambling are indirectly aiming to brainwash them and convince their subconscious that this activity should not be taken seriously or excessively.
Well we all know that things can happen in a very peculiar way , we are people who basically do things well when we win, but we have to test ourselves when we are seeing things in a different way , many people resort to casnio to see if they can have income , but high income, but we all know very well that for things like this we have to have somewhat big bets and for big bets we need to do things better, and have a way to win and make a difference, so when we think about what things can Doing it in other ways is very difficult, the only way to make easy money but risking little is with slots, but it is something that can always give the best results due to its multipliers , but it is also very useful to invest clearly , It's there and if the person gets Excited and makes crazy bets , because things can be Difficult.

I understand that when things try to be more focused by seeking high monetary results, one can become desperate and instead of achieving them, what it will do is the opposite, make our money disappear, things are like that in Casinos , so We must be intelligent when playing and not think that things are lost, we have to be realistic and we Cannot be careless, it is incredible that things are like this, of course it is my way of thinking, there is no other way , I have always seen a little from the experiences of many players, especially here in the Forum , there are many that have lost what they have the money by trying to look for the profits that previously they have not been able to get, in this day of days is that I will always say that the main thing This is having money willing to lose so that from there we can get a good view of the casino.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on January 28, 2024, 03:21:00 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


I can relate to what you're trying to say because most times people are being advised to gamble for fun in other not to become an addict or emotional in the case of losses but let's tell ourselves the truth, no one is happy when gambling and losing as their is no fun in it because the major reason why people play gamble is to win so if the winning isn't coming forth how can you expect one to be happy like who does that, suffering and smiling? Calling it fun! It's actually not possible at all let the truth be told.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: CODE200 on January 28, 2024, 06:01:39 AM
Money on gambling makes it exciting to play even though gamblers at times lose money to it. We can't forget the fact each of us wants to win money from gambling no matter how small it is. However, what  are we going to do in the time of our idle moments, is it not for us to try our luck on gambling to check whether we can win some money for ourselves to use the money won to hang out with some friends since the money won or lose from gambling is not what someone will use to build a house since the money used to bet, is always a little money, not a big money
Definitely exciting, that's what gambling is all about, excitement and having fun. It's the thrill that it provides that some gamblers seek and that's why it's popular even though many are advocating about the negative effects of gambling, they don't really care because all vices and people that do this knows that it's bad for them but they can't quit now and they don't know how to anyway. Probably because gambling is fun and some of us don't want the fun to end. This wouldn't be the most lucrative business of them all if this isn't what the gambling businesspeople have created.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Julien_Olynpic on January 28, 2024, 09:11:45 AM
I think people often deceive themselves by saying that they play for money for fun. There is one of two things here: either they are betting money to stimulate their interest in learning their favorite game, or they are still trying to make money, but admit that they do not know how to do it yet. However, we know that there are many profitable players in the world. Many of these profitable players have been unprofitable players for a long time. They were simply playing to become more skilled at the game. To develop your intuition. In general, to better understand the philosophy of the game. And only then did they become profitable. But before that, they probably said that they were playing for money and for fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 28, 2024, 09:27:04 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
OP, you are now being dramatic and believing that your mind is the mind of all, are you the same person? I mean the same personality when it comes to thinking, wants and behaviour? This is why you don't justify for others, you judge for yourself. Can people gamble for fun? Oh yes, and I must tell you that aside from me, I know some people who do that. Their initial motive for gambling might be to make money but when they now experience it and face the reality thereof, they turn it into fun. Is gambling fun, yes, it is fun, provided you position your mind towards it as fun and go for the fun-filled sector of gambling. Mind you, you will have to be using a ridiculously low amount of money as your casino permits it, and if the current one you are using is not allowing you to play with such a small amount, you find another one since you actually know what you want from it.

Even as you have fun, you win and lose, but the fact that your mind is not even there for the money, you will enjoy your time spent on the gambling platform. I see some that will be playing some games and will be smiling, shouting and all that, are they not having their fun, especially when they are using low money to do that? Sometimes too, it could be collaborative work, it is actually fun if you must know. But someone like you might not believe it because you will never have that mindset towards gambling, or perhaps you do not know the aspect of it that is fun-fill. It is yours to locate that and also reposition your mind towards it for you to have fun. Again, in this way, you might lose money at times, but you will never be an irresponsible gambler because big money is never committed, and the lost money would technically be the service charge for the fun you had. ;) This is even as you win and lose, not that you only lose throughout the spent time. This is the same whether you are good at gambling or not.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Fortify on January 28, 2024, 09:33:13 AM
Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


There is an element of wanting to be right and seeing how good your skills are at accurately predicting future events. However the real validation comes from actually benefiting from predicting things correctly and getting a pay off. You might argue that this is an inherent trait in many things we do in day to day life, some people might be investors - whether in the stock market or trying to convert houses for a profit. They are doing something similar and feel like they have spotted a value opportunity. So money is an important part of the structure, because virtual money games just feel a bit empty. One thing that should be considered is the bond, of profit and loss, that these games trigger in our deep down instincts.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: borovichok on January 28, 2024, 10:00:42 AM
I think people often deceive themselves by saying that they play for money for fun.

Understand that some people only stake on their favorite team to win without considering their opponents and odds. This is a show of support and when the reason to gamble is to show support for a team then losing money is never a problem. If this is the case, then gambling for money is not a consideration. Let us consider that Team A is playing against Team B. Team A has an odd of 1.15 and Team B has an odd of 25.2. Statistically, Team A has a higher winning probability rate so it is almost impossible for Team B to win but then an ardent supporter will still stake on Team B with a huge amount of money without concern about losing. When Team B loses, he is not worried about his stake but angry his team lost as a diehard fan and in moments when Team B wins, his excitement still doesn`t stem from his won ticket but the fact that his team won. So, it doesn`t amount to any self-deceit when a gambler says he gambles for fun.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Blitzboy on January 28, 2024, 10:42:20 AM
I think people often deceive themselves by saying that they play for money for fun. There is one of two things here: either they are betting money to stimulate their interest in learning their favorite game, or they are still trying to make money, but admit that they do not know how to do it yet. However, we know that there are many profitable players in the world. Many of these profitable players have been unprofitable players for a long time. They were simply playing to become more skilled at the game. To develop your intuition. In general, to better understand the philosophy of the game. And only then did they become profitable. But before that, they probably said that they were playing for money and for fun.
Yes, the transition from playing for fun to profit is fascinating. I think most of us start with "just for fun," which is part of the appeal. The thrill and adrenaline make the game appealing. And why not? Fun should always be the focus, right?

A tiny, almost unnoticeable shift occurs. I've seen it in myself and others. We want that edge, that greater understanding of game mechanics and methods. Not only money, but mastery of the craft. Remember thinking, "Hey, Im actually getting good at this!" The game changes at that realization. A challenge and self-improvement ensue.

I fully endorse playing for enjoyment. Isnt that what life's about? Having fun in gaming, learning, or anything else. The cash? Its a nice bonus, a sign of our progress from beginners to pros. That, my friends, is a worthwhile voyage.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: boyptc on January 28, 2024, 10:54:25 AM
I think people often deceive themselves by saying that they play for money for fun.
Hehehe  :D

I know right but that's fine if they're telling that they're gambling for fun. Sometimes I say that people should gamble for fun but we have to admit it that there will be times that we want to gamble for money.

Regardless of our reason to gamble, we're still on our own and no one can change our minds if we gamble for fun really or we do it for the money.

And even without the money, there will still be a lot of gamblers doing it for fun or we can call most of them gamers.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: len01 on January 28, 2024, 11:19:01 AM
We can't lie to the fact that one of the things that makes gambling look attractive is that there is "money" as the object of winning and this is also a big reason why many people come to engage in this activity, basically all living humans need money and when they see a place that provides opportunities to get money then obviously there will be many people who come with the same intention and purpose which is to get or multiply the money they bring. On the other hand, it is not uncommon to hear that people come to seek entertainment, but aren't there quite a lot of other types of entertainment that are also fun and without involving risk? So I think this "fun" is something that might be used as an excuse, but on the other hand I would also say that it could be that some people who bring the idea of fun in gambling are indirectly aiming to brainwash them and convince their subconscious that this activity should not be taken seriously or excessively.
everything related to money will certainly be very interesting but it can also leave a bit of a bad side if we overdo it, especially in gambling we are always presented with other people's winnings in large amounts and this can make us tempted to continue gambling in the hope of getting a win like the one we got others.
gambling is not something serious, it's just that certain gamblers always have an understanding without thinking about how gambling works, while all they think about is winning.
It's very natural that a gambler sometimes doesn't want to admit that they are gambling for money because they are hiding their shame because they lose too often and also don't want to be called stupid because they often lose and actually when they are not betting a gambler has a clear mind that he is aware of gambling just for money but when they enter the gambling room they will forget all that and their thoughts will be replaced with the assumption of wanting to win.

but of the majority of gamblers who gamble to make money there are also many gamblers who bet just for fun and to try their luck but they have self control and good financial management, that doesn't mean I'm proud of myself but right now this is what I'm doing even though I want to try my luck to get a winning bonus but still with the smallest amount without having deep feelings of regret.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: junder on January 28, 2024, 11:20:19 AM
We can't lie to the fact that one of the things that makes gambling look attractive is that there is "money" as the object of winning and this is also a big reason why many people come to engage in this activity, basically all living humans need money and when they see a place that provides opportunities to get money then obviously there will be many people who come with the same intention and purpose which is to get or multiply the money they bring. On the other hand, it is not uncommon to hear that people come to seek entertainment, but aren't there quite a lot of other types of entertainment that are also fun and without involving risk? So I think this "fun" is something that might be used as an excuse, but on the other hand I would also say that it could be that some people who bring the idea of fun in gambling are indirectly aiming to brainwash them and convince their subconscious that this activity should not be taken seriously or excessively.

It's true, gambling does tie closely to money,  because money is the main role in gambling, with winning is money with being able to gamble having to use money lost in gambling is money, completely gambling involves money. it's true that everyone needs money to survive  because there are many things that must be done using money including basic daily needs. the other side is that many people do this activity, some of them may believe that doing this one activity can make money quickly and quickly, but it's all just a trick that makes them stuck in the phase of gambling addiction.

I agree with you, there are many who use gambling for entertainment, but this is certainly risky, and if you think about it, there are still many other things that are fun and even more so do not have a big risk like gambling.  but any thoughts on gambling I think they clearly want to win,  because by doing gambling I think it is clear that they want to get a profitable win. and I think they are aware that gambling is likely to be detrimental,  but that is still covered by their hopes for gambling that want to win  so they don't care about the risk of loss in gambling.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Julien_Olynpic on January 29, 2024, 02:47:55 AM
The need to deposit money into the game is what brings a special charm to the game. This creates the risk of loss and strong emotions and this is exactly what many people lack. Some bloggers advise a beginner to play “on paper.” That is, we write down on paper those transactions that we would like to conduct online. Perhaps there is something in this, and for beginners it can sometimes be recommended, but in my opinion, it is better to accept the game as it is. We need an encounter with danger - this is what attracts us to games for money. But emotions are only part of the game. People need positive, not negative emotions. But you can never tell in advance exactly what emotions your last game will bring you.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: kamvreto on January 30, 2024, 07:22:14 PM
I think people often deceive themselves by saying that they play for money for fun.
Hehehe  :D

I know right but that's fine if they're telling that they're gambling for fun. Sometimes I say that people should gamble for fun but we have to admit it that there will be times that we want to gamble for money.

Regardless of our reason to gamble, we're still on our own and no one can change our minds if we gamble for fun really or we do it for the money.

And even without the money, there will still be a lot of gamblers doing it for fun or we can call most of them gamers.

Only they themselves can feel it and what is being done in gambling, for entertainment or to make money. we don't really know, but most people who gamble and lose they claim that it was just a normal entertainment game, but a lot of money was lost while gambling. they are really proud to say that they lost in gambling. This will certainly be a mental burden that will affect their lives.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: arimamib on January 31, 2024, 06:23:35 AM
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It's true, gambling does tie closely to money,  because money is the main role in gambling, with winning is money with being able to gamble having to use money lost in gambling is money, completely gambling involves money. it's true that everyone needs money to survive  because there are many things that must be done using money including basic daily needs. the other side is that many people do this activity, some of them may believe that doing this one activity can make money quickly and quickly, but it's all just a trick that makes them stuck in the phase of gambling addiction.

I agree with you, there are many who use gambling for entertainment, but this is certainly risky, and if you think about it, there are still many other things that are fun and even more so do not have a big risk like gambling.  but any thoughts on gambling I think they clearly want to win,  because by doing gambling I think it is clear that they want to get a profitable win. and I think they are aware that gambling is likely to be detrimental,  but that is still covered by their hopes for gambling that want to win  so they don't care about the risk of loss in gambling.
Money plays a pivotal role in gambling, because the goal for most participants is to win and secure financial gains. The connection between survival and money is acknowledged, as many essential needs are fulfilled through financial means. Whetever motive is for people to engage in gambling, even it's for entertainment, the inherent risks should not be overlooked. Any thing that involves money with posibility to lose is a risk. The awareness of potential losses and the strong desire to win in gambling are contradict each other.

The allure of potential profits often overshadows the acknowledged risks that leads people to pursue their hopes of a lucrative outcome, even if it means ignoring the potential downsides. This is the complexity of the relationship between gambling, money, and human behavior. It touches on both the practical aspects of financial involvement and the psychological motivations that drive individuals to engage in this activity.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2024, 09:10:13 AM
The need to deposit money into the game is what brings a special charm to the game. This creates the risk of loss and strong emotions and this is exactly what many people lack. Some bloggers advise a beginner to play “on paper.” That is, we write down on paper those transactions that we would like to conduct online. Perhaps there is something in this, and for beginners it can sometimes be recommended, but in my opinion, it is better to accept the game as it is. We need an encounter with danger - this is what attracts us to games for money. But emotions are only part of the game. People need positive, not negative emotions. But you can never tell in advance exactly what emotions your last game will bring you.
If beginners wrote down their transactions on paper, it would require a lot of paper. But that could be one way to find out how much money they will use for gambling. Beginners will more often face the risk of losing their money because they feel they get a different pleasure from others, where by using money, they can make money for those who win. But those who lose will keep trying and will even deposit more money. This is what attracts them so they are still curious about winning. It can also increase their emotions when playing gambling and they will become more eager to win the gambling game. And that's why we can only use gambling games as entertainment to get pleasure so that we don't have the desire to win, which will be more difficult.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: junder on January 31, 2024, 10:00:14 AM
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It's true, gambling does tie closely to money,  because money is the main role in gambling, with winning is money with being able to gamble having to use money lost in gambling is money, completely gambling involves money. it's true that everyone needs money to survive  because there are many things that must be done using money including basic daily needs. the other side is that many people do this activity, some of them may believe that doing this one activity can make money quickly and quickly, but it's all just a trick that makes them stuck in the phase of gambling addiction.

I agree with you, there are many who use gambling for entertainment, but this is certainly risky, and if you think about it, there are still many other things that are fun and even more so do not have a big risk like gambling.  but any thoughts on gambling I think they clearly want to win,  because by doing gambling I think it is clear that they want to get a profitable win. and I think they are aware that gambling is likely to be detrimental,  but that is still covered by their hopes for gambling that want to win  so they don't care about the risk of loss in gambling.
Money plays a pivotal role in gambling, because the goal for most participants is to win and secure financial gains. The connection between survival and money is acknowledged, as many essential needs are fulfilled through financial means. Whetever motive is for people to engage in gambling, even it's for entertainment, the inherent risks should not be overlooked. Any thing that involves money with posibility to lose is a risk. The awareness of potential losses and the strong desire to win in gambling are contradict each other.

The allure of potential profits often overshadows the acknowledged risks that leads people to pursue their hopes of a lucrative outcome, even if it means ignoring the potential downsides. This is the complexity of the relationship between gambling, money, and human behavior. It touches on both the practical aspects of financial involvement and the psychological motivations that drive individuals to engage in this activity.

that's clear, because in order for us to survive we also have to have money, because to do that you most likely have to use money such as meeting basic needs, of course to be able to fulfill this you need money, including in gambling, to gamble of course you need money so that you can gamble and if you win then that is what every gambler everywhere is looking for. What you say is correct, even though the motive for gambling is entertainment, the risk will still be there and it cannot be avoided.

It's true, I think they are aware of the losses they have in gambling and what they get, but this can still be covered by the hopes they have in gambling. The big win that every gambler wants is true, because if it didn't exist, there probably wouldn't be such a thing as gambling addiction. You are right, these things are related to each other and there is mutual involvement between finances and human attitudes.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: wxa7115 on February 01, 2024, 03:56:26 AM
Only they themselves can feel it and what is being done in gambling, for entertainment or to make money. we don't really know, but most people who gamble and lose they claim that it was just a normal entertainment game, but a lot of money was lost while gambling. they are really proud to say that they lost in gambling. This will certainly be a mental burden that will affect their lives.
There is no need to get to the extreme of losing so much money, for what I have seen over the years a great deal of those that gamble are people that feel very comfortable taking control over the money and doing whatever they want with it.

Take as an example those that gamble on this forum and you will see the same pattern, as the majority of us has invested part of our wealth on bitcoin, since we know that given enough time its adoption and usage will become even larger, so we feel fine taking calculated risks, and that is what we are doing with gambling as well, just taking a calculated risk in which the reward is not really measured in terms of money but in the fun we got out of it.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: retreat on February 01, 2024, 04:09:43 AM
Some people actually gamble for entertainment, even though their other goal is to get money, but because they have fun they gamble without being burdened with getting money from every gamble. This means that they play without really caring about the outcome, whether they win or lose, they just enjoy the game and gamble within the limits they have set. That's not hypocrisy, but there are some gamblers who gamble for entertainment and they don't really care about the results because they don't want to be burdened by their gambling activities.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: maydna on February 01, 2024, 04:15:17 PM
Some people actually gamble for entertainment, even though their other goal is to get money, but because they have fun they gamble without being burdened with getting money from every gamble. This means that they play without really caring about the outcome, whether they win or lose, they just enjoy the game and gamble within the limits they have set. That's not hypocrisy, but there are some gamblers who gamble for entertainment and they don't really care about the results because they don't want to be burdened by their gambling activities.
If their goal in gambling is to have fun, they will not be burdened because of the results they get at the end of the game, and there will also be no desire to try to recover their losses. They will just try to enjoy the gambling game, and whatever the result, they will accept it because gambling is about winning and losing. They also won't mind if they lose because they already know that when playing gambling, losing is normal. They will also always try to limit their gambling activities so as not to experience more and more losses because that means they have to lose their money irretrievably.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: wxa7115 on February 08, 2024, 02:35:45 AM
Some people actually gamble for entertainment, even though their other goal is to get money, but because they have fun they gamble without being burdened with getting money from every gamble. This means that they play without really caring about the outcome, whether they win or lose, they just enjoy the game and gamble within the limits they have set. That's not hypocrisy, but there are some gamblers who gamble for entertainment and they don't really care about the results because they don't want to be burdened by their gambling activities.
This idea some have that no one gambles for the entertainment value they can get of of gambling is not really true, and this is very easy to disprove by just walking on any regular casino and see the people that are gambling there.

Since you will see the majority of those people are not really counting their chips at every opportunity they get or are overzealous about getting profits, they are just having a good time with their friends and enjoying the moment, demonstrating they care nothing about the profits or loses they are going through at the moment.


Title: Re: They know the truth but they don't want to accept it, publicly
Post by: Hirose UK on February 08, 2024, 04:53:18 AM
Some people actually gamble for entertainment, even though their other goal is to get money, but because they have fun they gamble without being burdened with getting money from every gamble. This means that they play without really caring about the outcome, whether they win or lose, they just enjoy the game and gamble within the limits they have set. That's not hypocrisy, but there are some gamblers who gamble for entertainment and they don't really care about the results because they don't want to be burdened by their gambling activities.
If we do research by taking into account the overall percentage of existing gamblers, the first thing that gamblers biggest goal is to make money and indeed some have changed this mindset to just having fun, but the percentage will be smaller.
Most people think that gambling is a place to make money because they think that gambling can give them big wins that can change their lives.
Usually you will be more obsessed if you see how streamers or affiliates broadcast game sessions where they succeed in getting big wins over and over again.
By watching broadcasts like this, gamblers will be more enthusiastic and have the ambition to be able to get the same win.
This is clearly quite fatal mistake because we know how failure occurs and what consequences we have to face if we do or have an attitude like that, it is clear that gamblers are the ones who will suffer difficulties in the days to come.

So far it is still very rare to find gamblers who don't care about the results and really pursue pleasure and satisfaction from gambling entertainment, we won't be able to find gamblers like this everywhere.
But here I sure that many gamblers are aware of this and they really gamble with the acceptance of losing money for the entertainment and pleasure they get.