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With halving less than a year from now, the majority of us are speculating a major increase in price and possibly the start of another bull market after 4 years. Some are expecting to surpass the previous ATH of almost $70,000 and possibly reach $100,000. Although this scenario sounds great and all, I'm not quite confident that it'll happen in the upcoming year or so. The current economic condition in the world isn't too promising and, in my opinion, will set back investments in general, including bonds and the stock market. I hope I'm proven wrong, though.

However, I tend to have a more pessimistic and down-to-earth approach to this matter. Bitcoin's current price is ranging from $27,000 to $28,000 as we speak, while we will also occasionally see it as low as $25,000. With that being said, in my opinion, sometime after the halving, the scenario of Bitcoin surpassing $50,000 doesn't sound too impossible to me. Thus, if we suppose that someone purchases Bitcoin now, approximately within a year, he or she may be capable of doubling their initial investment.

I know that these are all pure assumptions, but instead of speculating massive ATH and 3x or 4x returns, which are way too common in the forum, why not expect something that is more probable to happen in the near future? And to be honest, doubling your investment is a great yield that cannot easily be found in other forms of investment.

Your opinion about the bull market isn't far from the truth, but I think almost everyone now picture the bull run with an idea of pure assumption. Too many expectations, but no certainty of what might happened. I would love to see the halving process come soon, so as to reduce the tension among those with too much expectations, and I hope the expectation of the majority doesn't turn to disappointment.

Exactly @Ultegra134 hodling returns over the years under Bitcoin have proven to be very profitable.However one should not input too much trust into Bitcoin rise in the next halving.The idea of Bitcoin reaching $100k or more is a thing of enthusiasm  or hope I would say which still has a chance of happening

With the next Bitcoin halving less than a year away, everyone's speculating about what will happen to the price. Some people are expecting a massive surge, while others are more pessimistic. ???

I'm not sure if Bitcoin will reach a new all-time high of $100,000 in the next year, but I think it's definitely possible that it could surpass $50,000.

That would mean doubling your investment if you buy now.

Of course, there's always the chance that the price could go down instead of up. But even if that happens, I think Bitcoin is still a good long-term investment.

It's a scarce asset with a limited supply, and it's becoming increasingly popular as a store of value and a medium of exchange.

So, if you're looking for an investment that could potentially double your money in the next year, Bitcoin is worth considering.

DYOR

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Bitcoin has been a very profitable investment over the years, but it's important to remember that it's also a very volatile asset. There's no guarantee that Bitcoin will continue to rise in price, even after the next halving.

Some people are predicting that Bitcoin will reach $100,000 or more in the next year. Others are more pessimistic.

I'm not sure what will happen, but I think it's important to be realistic. There are a lot of factors that could affect the price of Bitcoin in the coming months and years, including the global economic climate, regulatory changes, and overall adoption.

If you're thinking about investing in Bitcoin, it's important to do your own research and invest only what you can afford to lose.

 Bitcoin is a risky investment, but it could also be very rewarding. If you're comfortable with the risks involved, it's worth considering. But don't expect to get rich quick.

This could happen. It could probably be over $50,000 or lower. And I think maybe some people too, that when the market is bearish and prices are still close to the lowest price range or lower low, this is very good for accumulating or buying. Often prices will stabilize at this time for quite a long period of time and provide an opportunity to make a purchase. And we are all sure and perhaps have experienced it during the previous halving period, that the price of BTC will start to rise and turn into a bull market after the BTC halving occurs.

Dyor.

Whether it is doubling your investment as you say, or expecting a greater pump in price, they are all speculations or predictions; and it doesn't really matter what mr A predicts or what mr X is expecting, because we cannot know what will happen and we can only wait.

What matters is that you are not buying more than you can afford to lose, and that your prediction and expectation isn't affecting your decision making in real life, if you are not doing any of these, then we can make predictions as we like and people should understand that those predictions do not influence what will eventually happen as most of them are just pulled out of a hat.

Sorry I don't agree, I have my trust in Bitcoin than the country's paper money, I have trust in Bitcoin than storing money in the banks, it's worth trusting Bitcoin than your money system in your country, making a profit is another different thing and you need to DCA or enter when there is a massive sell-off i bought most of my Bitcoin at the range of 15,000 and 18,000 and weeks back I almost make a double gain when Bitcoin goes back to 29 - 30 range.

It's not good to try to target the bottom too so it's better to DCA, there is nothing in the digital world that's more reliable than Bitcoin, do not say this statement that one should not put trust in Bitcoin, do you know what could make someone to have more money in Bitcoin than in their bank accounts? It's complete trust on decentralization over the government.

Since the beginning of this bear season Bitcoin have been very profitable than 99% of other assets in crypto space, only a few altcoins have done better than Bitcoin since the start of this bear market, but my point isn't really about the profits but how reliable Bitcoin is, sorry pal there is nothing I trust more than Bitcoin.

You don’t need to be proven wrong, the economic condition can be seen as comparison to your statement on how bitcoin will farewell in the upcoming bull run. Even before bringing the current economic condition into play, bitcoin does not always makes a new all-time high immediately after the bull run. It takes some months to witness a bull run and a new all-time high is reached the following year after the bull run. Maybe after the bull run, all market conditions could be affected and a change to your initial statement will be established to make the bull run realistic as many people are predicting it to be after bull run.


Being pessimistic about the future price of bitcoin after the bull run does not make it impossible for it to reach a new all-time high; being pessimistic will just make you not let your bitcoin price expectations bring you down when they are not reached. Being pessimistic should not cause you to lose hope in the future or make you incapable of anticipating the price of bitcoin when it arises.

The bitcoin price will most likely pass $100,000 in the next cycle. Otherwise analysts are going to have to rethink their very downside predictions, such as these:

Bitcoin base case target on 2030 is $682,800 according to Ark Invest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470383.0)

Michael Saylor predicts Bitcoin can go to $5 million? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466479.0)

Doubling the investment from these levels is practically guaranteed, the question is to keep accumulating because everything indicates that the money you put in bitcoin will be more profitable than other more traditional investments such as gold bonds or index funds.

Bitcoin price will be the same as current for next few years, and can go to $20 000 too, because people use altcoins more than before. Bitcoin LN project was good, but now altcoins are much faster in transfers, and also with cheaper transfer fee.

Since almost everyone on this forum is a bitcoin lover or bitcoin activist, everyone here believes history will repeat itself and bitcoin will reach a new ATH. Although sometimes we need to wait up to a year after the halving before prices start to rise. I think bitcoin's popularity is getting better and more people are aware of this, both on this forum and not.

It seems like bitcoin has an ATH cycle, just like its halving cycle. I believe history will repeat itself and a new ATH will be created. We just need patience and always hold bitcoin, maybe we even need to start saving bitcoin every month

Well, in my opinion, this assumption stands because it happened after the previous halvings. Statistics show that the market performs in 4-year cycles; at least that's what has happened till now. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll keep going in the future.
That's what I've also read. From my point of view, both speculations you've quoted seem way too unrealistic, at least with the data we have today. We can't predict 2025, let alone 2030. I tend to have a more sustained view of Bitcoin's price and prefer to think about what's more likely to happen rather than imagine 3x or 4x. If that doesn't happen, then my expectations would fall short, and I wouldn't be satisfied if I yielded anything less.
My approach is to set low expectations and not be let down in case things don't turn our way. I also believe that Bitcoin is capable of reaching a new ATH; however, I'm claiming that $50,000, for instance, is a very probable price for the upcoming months or a year. Thus, doubling my investment isn't as complicated as it may sound. Personally, I'm not in a hurry to sell, even if we surpass $60,000 or even more in the upcoming two or three years. The truth is, I don't know how I'll react seeing that I've almost tripled my money, something of which I'm afraid because I'd be honestly tempted to sell.

This question depends on how prepared you are. Imagine there is bull run and the price of Bitcoin all of a sudden goes up to $60k by tomorrow are you proud of the amount of Bitcoin you have accumulated so far in your portfolio?. Most person would say history always repeats itself where the price of Bitcoin will go so high during the bull season but I call it a tradition. It has always been the nature of Bitcoin since its existence beaten the ATH.

We are approaching the holiday season when Christians celebrate Christmas, and families often plan trips and vacations. During this time, there are many unnecessary expenses, such as buying jewelry, drinks, and taking trips to places like Paris. While these activities are enjoyable, if i had such money to do them, I would prefer to use it for Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) every week throughout before the next bull run, thereby doubling my investment. Currently, these activities won't provide any good financial benefits; they are expenses only for fun.

Threads like this are the reason I come here. They inspire me.

It is unlikely that we will see ATH in the coming year, because in previous cycles this came with some delay. Therefore, the more likely scenario when we see a price of $100.000 will occur within 1.5-2 years. This is a rough estimate. This is taking into account that there will be no sudden negative events on the cryptomarket, such as the failure of some large exchange or prohibitive laws related to bitcoin. And of course, unless a global economic event happens, to which it is unknown how bitcoin will react. Perhaps even such an event will be able to spur demand for btc as a way to preserve people's rapidly depreciating wealth.

I like that you don't have overly high expectations and try to soberly assess the situation. This is exactly what any investor should do - doubt and act with a cool head.

Well, yes, that's right. Buying a bitcoin now is expected to double your investment, and perhaps even triple or quadruple it in the best case scenario.

Undoubtedly, even doubling the investment is an impeccable result that those who doubt the bitcoin will not get.

The other investment like Stock is already experiencing a set back, the market cap growth wasn't as good as last year. And I am pretty surprise that the Bitcoin price was still be able to have a quick price bounce-up in this kind of economic condition. And for me with the current economic condition, if I can get my investment value doubled only in one year I would already be very happy. I don't really like speculating on Bitcoin since I prefer it to be not too volatile, but I if I enter the Bitcoin market right now, the best I could do would be 150% in a year if I am very lucky, or 130% or less if not, double my investment would be a miracle.

There have been many theories and suspicions about this matter and I do not rule it out. But even if we don't have any price increases after the halving, I believe that in the following years, a bull season will also have to happen. Therefore, it is important that we have a backup plan instead of just relying on the halving and hoping for a good scenario to happen.

It's hard to know what will happen in the future but no matter what happens, I remain steadfast and confident in the future of bitcoin. It may take longer for us to double or triple our investment, but it will definitely happen.

If bitcoin can't reach above $70k, I will still wait and don't want to sell my bitcoin. Even though I have bought bitcoin at the current price and when the price can reach around $50k, I will still wait for it to increase. But I will also sell some to take advantage of my investment.

I also don't expect the price to jump above $70 immediately after the halving. It will likely enter another waiting period, a few months, a year, or even two years, to see the price increase to above $100k. But I don't know. There's no telling what will happen after the halving.

Well, that's not a bad speculation I guess and surely Bitcoin will reach $50k within a year. But, we expect more from Bitcoin and that's why we are so optimistic about its price going above $90k and some of us even believe that it may reach $120k price mark in 2024-2025. I have mix thoughts about Bitcoin's price as sometimes I think it will reach $100k while other times I think it will reach and cross $120k. Surely it will reach a new ATH during the coming bull run but nobody yet knows that how intense this bull run will be. We'll have to wait for the future to see that happening.

I used to have a similar opinion about doubling your money in a year or so, but it was back in 2017, 2018 and price range between $1k to $6k, back then it was really easy to have 300% profit in less than 6 month, but now we are talking about $30k increase, that's too much for a market with 20m circulating supply out of 21m.

I don't think that the global economic situation needs to be great for Bitcoin to reach another ATH. Let's not forget that the last bull market happened in the middle of the pandemic, lockdowns and huge disruptions of trade routes. Bitcoin can do well simply because people trust it more than they trust other things, for example (and some attributed BTC growth to US Covid financial relief to citizens), which allows it to grow when everything else isn't going well.
I think Bitcoin needs another year, so somewhere near the end of 2024 we can see a bull market, but that's merely my opinion.
As for $50k, I don't see it as more probable than $70k or $100k because historically, once Bitcoin reached the previous ATH after a bear market, it went on to surpass it. Stopping at $50k just doesn't seem likely to me because of that.

Yeah, there is no guarantee that Bitcoin's 4 year cycle will continue to occur in the future but the cycle is like a real myth. Most people usually learn from history so this 4 year cycle of bitcoin will remain awaited and may influence the market and peoples will start buying bitcoin in the hope that bitcoin will touch its ATH again. This condition will make the demand for bitcoin even higher and the price will rise.

However, I believe Bitcoin's 4-year cycle will continue to influence market sentiment and it is likely that Bitcoin prices will rise. I hope Bitcoin can touch ATH again, we can only predict and let time tell

That is the main thing I also say. It is true that there is no guarantee that the price of Bitcoin will touch its new all-time high price after this halving. But if we look at past histories, there is a possibility, and I think most people would agree with that. However, it is true that Bitcoin's all-time brother will definitely be higher than the previous all-time high, but it is difficult to guarantee how much or how many times it will be.
Some things factor here, such as halving reward, halving results in bitcoin reward being reduced to half and then for bitcoin mining, miners have to sell their held bitcoins to cover the mining cost, thereby increasing the trend of buying bitcoins in the market and increasing the demand. Because of this I think the price of Bitcoin also increases. I will also say myself that the OP did not make any bad speculation.

I mean if we are looking at the technicality of the "probable" then yeah I would say so. The logic is this, if I start at 2020 with 100 dollars, and at 2021 I need 200 dollars, and at 2022 I need 400 and at 2023 I need 800, all of which would be pure doubling down every year, just even buying 100 dollars worth of bitcoin at 2020 would have yielded more than 800 in 2021 ,and you could have just stopped. That is why I think its quite "probable" in that sense. But also, you could lose as well, and if you do lose then its not going to be all that easy and things will be looking a lot worse, what you earned could all go away and you should be taking that type of risk if you do not know how to invest properly, or trade.

Although the current economic and political situation of the world is not good and I do not know how it is going to be in the future. Still I would say that this Bitcoin Halving is very important. Because this time it will be seen how the price pumping after the halving of Bitcoin even after so many global Even before the Covid-19 pandemic, Bitcoin provided a good pump after the halving period even after the global economy was in bad shape. Maybe something like that can be seen this time too. However, I think that Bitcoin will not go to a new good price in 2024, because every time it is seen that after the Bitcoin halving period, its price starts to recover and then touch a new all-time high price. So I would say it may take 2025 or more to touch the new all-time high price of Bitcoin. But hope that the new all-time high must be 2x or 3x more.

I think that we are going to see a new ATH in 2025, not just after the halving because it always takes time. Anyway a 3x is pretty much the old ATH, a 4x means $100k, if despite the halving and the ETFs (with billions of dollars that would enter the market) we don't reach at least $100k in my opinion it means that something very bad happened because otherwise I can't see why we shouldn't do a 3-4x in the next couple of years.

I would say doubling from here is as close to a guarantee as you can get in crypto. Double would be $54000 which we will definitely reach in the next two years. Bitcoin rewards people who have patience, it’s a virtue that not all of us have & that’s why the majority of people fail in crypto & sell when the price is down. Buying now is a great idea, it might not be easy to live through dips but if you can keep strong hands then you will be rewarded when the bull begins his run.

I tend to agree that's true, but if this kind of mindset really takes hold among investors, then I'm sure there will be major selling pressure when $50k is reached. Of course it will cause a lot of panic as people tend to sell and take profits, but holding bitcoin for a longer period of time may be better to gain maximum profits.

But however, this assumption is not wrong because people's investment plans and goals do not have to be the same. Someone might take profits even by just 10%, but expecting 300% after the halving is reasonable based on history. Of course that is my assumption, but a bigger history will be made on bitcoin.

so long you are conservative with your estimates and you are investing here what you can afford to lose, then, you don't have to worry much. because if you are staking your hard-earned savings, then, losing it will be detrimental from your pocket. up until now, no one can guarantee where the market is heading to, so even if you are a long time crypto user, you are only basing from your instincts on where this market is going, and so invest what you think you can handle to lose.

Investor strategy is to create a long-term portfolio with a high profit target plan, some investors target 100% profit or reach $50k and they plan their next investment strategy at market correction prices, usually the market price pattern will correct after a significant increase, for example after a recovery price of $50k is reached and it is possible that the market price will stay at $46k before the next bullish run until it reaches ATH, so at the point of price correction there is an opportunity for investors to buy back and increase the investment value for the next maximum profit target.

Based on the history of bitcoin prices during each halving period, there are no unreasonable price statements because history has proven that the highest price was reached $60k last year, you don't need to hesitate to state the 300% target assumption because I believe $100k is the next ATH target that has the potential to be achieved after the halving period next year.

You are right that when the bear market started, Bitcoin was on a very low trend, and there was a real opportunity to gain profit. Meaning, those who grabbed the opportunity of Bitcoin and made it a part of their portfolio at the beginning of the bear cycle will definitely be in profit, and if they hold more and wait until Bitcoin hits ATH, then I think Bitcoin is worth thinking about. You can see a higher profit on the return of your investment. So these are the features that make Bitcoin more affordable and reliable than any other investment. He can give your investment a double, 4x, and even more profit than you think if you invest at the right time and develop the courage to hold.

Furthermore, you must develop a proper investment strategy for both the long and short term. I mean, diversify your investment under the strategy of dollar cost average (DCA). It will be able to manage risks and avoid a lower chance of losing money.

When you're looking at reward, you should also analyze it together with the risk. There's no guarantee that Bitcoin will even double its price. Or that it will go up at all. It might even be the first halvening when the price will fall. All we know that in the past halvenings meant bull runs, but we still don't fully understand why and how things will be in the future.

For a lot of people, guaranteed and predictable 10% growth  per year is far better than a prospect of doubling money in a year, but without any certainty.

     Due to the positive speculations that we read in various articles in the crypto space, the positive response average of those who believe in Bitcoin in its upcoming halving is actually increasing. And we can see somehow in different companies that we will suddenly find out that they have adapted Bitcoin as a mode of payment in their business companies like Honda and Ferari that I read here in this forum.

    So, these are just some of the reasons why others are now saving Bitcoin in their respective wallet addresses. But even so, this prediction will still remain and it is up to us whether we believe it or not.

People are accustomed to see Bitcoin break its ATH every 4 years, so with the current price and people assuming that Bitcoin will break its ATH and record a possible 2x or 3x of its previous ATH, many are speculating that investing with the current price will possibly yield them a 3x to 4x profit.

I am also ok with a 2x profit since it is 100% and yes it is very rare or probably won't happen if we invest outside the cryptocurrency considering that we only have to wait for a year or two.

I mean that's the whole plan anyway. To at least double what you have through the halving. People expecting x3 or x4 in this economy are a little too optimistic especially considering that there's no real reason for bitcoin to increase in such a value. It's still sitting in a precarious spot where a simple issue could take it down to a measly 18k, and we have no good reason as of now to be happy and excited about the halving since for bitcoin to reach a new bull season we need the help of a pivotal crypto event along with the scarcity that the Bull run insinuates for it to really increase in value. So far we haven't gotten any of the two yet so there's no real reason for bitcoin to reach x3 or x4 as much as what people are expecting.

I can’t deny that the prices with these ATH do get ridiculously high but, how ridiculous could it be! We’ve got just about 21million Bitcoins to serve the world population and as such, valuation that counts into a ridiculous price is what we should always except but, we as well hope to archive this without a break in history with the halving and bullruns.
Don’t want to be too optimistic but, it’s really hard not to be when you’ve been putting all efforts to top up your holdings and it’s out there looking for the profits in them even when you ain’t going to withdraw.

Looking at the current ATH for bitcoin at $69k, a $100k seems achievable as it ain’t quite distanced from the performing ATH.

During the pandemic, the world economic situation was worsened as staff where been relieved of there jobs, others weren’t given much access and these created an online consciousness for most. That could be the case after the halving.

Basically, if you have enough funds that you can afford to lose not some funds that are saved for your essential needs, then you are recommended to take advantage of the situation because most likely you won't find such an opportunity again in the future after others like you have decided to flock on buying bitcoins in every crypto exchanges in order to get ready for another possible bull runs after bitcoin halving. You just need to think about it twice and be carried away because all we can do is suggest and speculate it's all up to you if you want to follow it.

Halving threads are plentiful so I've posted in some. I've written there isn't a guarantee of return before or after halving so it's all speculation there isn't a rule to guide us. I'd say if there isn't a guarantee of 3x or 4x returns there shouldn't be assumptions or speculations of doubling your investment.

I expect 40-50k pre ½ ing and about 121k for full bull run number.

I mine I attack differently then a hodl guy or a trader guy.

If you are in at a 30k or under price point putting in some more cash should work for you. But reality we could all wake up dead in the morning as the core of the earth could blowup with little or no warning.  So why worry.

Doubling one's investment within just months can only happen if one is involved with Bitcoin. Now, there can be other digital assets that can give us x10 or even x100 but they are too risky for anyone's taste so if one is still conservative in approach it is Bitcoin that can give us the best return. Admittedly though, no matter how optimistic we become with Bitcoin, there are many factors that come into play most especially the global economic and political state right now - there are many bad news which can be the reason why many people may not be looking at Bitcoin like a hot girl for someone's portfolio. Anyway, I am still hoping that we can achieve this goal - getting things doubled - by 2024 due to the halving push.

I respect your opinion since we have the freedom to share it here. However, I will share my opinion base on what you said.

Many might be expecting for it to happen, but with the halving expected to happen in April of 2024, I expect that we will start to experience major price increase at least 5 months or even more after the event, so I only expect that price increase will happen at around the 2nd half of the year. With what you said regarding economic condition, remember the pandemic in 2020? Are our economic condition good at that time? 2020 and 2021 are considered the worst years for many because of lockdowns, the virus being spread etc. but look at what the market did at that time. So I don't buy the "economic condition isn't promising" thing because the market increased in 2020 and 2021 even though we are at the considered the worst time.

Well, that's true knowing that in the past, Bitcoin's price tends to increase a few months after the halving. On the other hand, I still believe in the fact that what happened in the past might not happened in the future. You might be true that Bitcoin reaching $50,000 is possible, and we have a different approach to Bitcoin. I've seen it it twice. Bitcoin halving - wait for a few months - Bitcoin starts to increase - start of bull run however, I might be wrong though, and we might see the unexpected. :D

No worries. We are all making assumptions all our lives when it comes to crypto (or it's only me). We are all speculating all the time even though we aren't analysts. :)

It must've been over a period of time so you probably would've upgraded regularly. In total how much did you pay for your mining equipment over the years? I can't imagine mining's profitable when there's excessive numbers of miners trying to get rewards it's competitive.

I, too, tend not to set my expectations too high for the next halving event, considering the widespread speculation that the price will soar above $100,000. It's not an incorrect notion, but I find myself content with figures below that milestone. Such a scenario is a rarity in other investment instruments, like stocks or bonds. Moreover, being a Bitcoin investor is relatively straightforward and lacks many other requirements.

In essence, the ease of purchasing Bitcoin is rewarding enough, even with gains of 100% or 150%. Furthermore, we'll always have the opportunity to acquire more Bitcoin whenever we please, as the bearish and bullish aspects are integral elements that consistently influence Bitcoin's price movements.

It's good that you're not too greedy and set moderate goals for yourself to avoid regrets, but I find that a target of 100k$ or 120k$ is not too high for bitcoin in the upcoming bull season. I have even higher expectations than everyone's predictions, I believe bitcoin is completely capable of reaching $150k-180k.

Many people say that investing in bitcoin is not a place to get rich quickly, but we should not deny that it is easier to make double or triple profits with bitcoin than with any other asset. That's why we invest in bitcoin instead of other options, so I still consider bitcoin a get-rich-quick investment more than other assets.

I understand your down-to-earth predictions. Like me, you're also probably annoyed with those seemingly unrealistic targets. Sometimes, they seem nothing but wishful thinking.

But we can actually go back to what happened in the most recent past and see if these 3x or 4x returns within a year, which you observed as way too common in the forum, are probable.

The ATH was $69,044.77 and it was reached on the 10th of November 2021. On the 10th of November 2020, the price was just around $15,000. With this data alone, we can see that the price actually more than quadrupled in just a year's time. As a matter of fact, if we step back a little further to October of 2020, the price was just $10,000. Several months before that, the price was even much lower. It was just $5,000 in March of the same year.

Although we're already high at $27,000 right now, I'm still not discounting the possibility that it would at least x3 or x4 a year from now. That to me is still probable. That could still be a down-to-earth or realistic prediction.

And one of the most important aspects of this is that you do not even need to wait for the bull run to come to obtain those results, when bitcoin dropped to 15k at November of 2022 you could have bought bitcoin and sell it at April of 2023 and double your money without too much of a problem.

And while altcoins can give a greater performance, their movements are nowhere near as predictable than what you can find in bitcoin, meaning that the risk you will have to take to obtain those profits is many times higher, and this is simply unacceptable for a great deal of traders out there.

It isn't reasonable to believe Bitcoin's going to be reaching $100k in the next bull. It's going to get to the milestone one day but it isn't going to happen any time soon. You can't make money in shares like you're able to with Bitcoin so it's the unique asset. It's early days in the genesis of bitcoin so ppl can make money if they're trading carefully.

Doubling our investment is multi purpose, you are doubling the amount of gains and multiplying once the market goes so high.
The thing here is that are we truly capable of buying more? Or are we have enough inside our wallet to wait for another halving?
This has been the problem in many ways that we wanted to add more in our crypto holding but wr have enough to risk so thats all we can have for now.

I understand the angle you are coming from which is global economic realities. Furthermore, it is good to keep ones expectations moderate, this I also notice from your post. However, I think the money in the world is not lost, rather, it is just not circulating as it should that is why it seems there is no much money. But trust me, when the fundamentals aligns, there will be huge cash flow into Bitcoin that will make the price to soar. By fundamental aligning, I mean positive news such as the halving, ETF approval or any major news.

So, even when I am not desperate to see 3x or 4x returns like you said, I will not rule out the possibilities because the potential is there. Nevertheless, the most important thing is to buy and hold and let the future decide.

Bitcoin price could increase to $50k in the next few months or before the halving. But if it is about investment, we can increase the investment amount by accumulating more Bitcoins during this waiting period. And that means we still have time to buy Bitcoin until the specified time arrives.

And when the Bitcoin price really rises and reaches $50k before the halving, we can feel happy because the price is very likely to rise very high again. Our desired price target of over $100k may be achievable. But for now, because the price of Bitcoin is still below $30k, we still have to be patient.

I am in no rush to sell my Bitcoin especially if it could reach $50k as my price target is above $60k. But I hope we can sell Bitcoin at the price we want so that there are no regrets later.

History repeats, that is what we knew with bitcoin after every cycle so as per that assumption the previous ATH was around $65K and if the bull run starts next year the peak value will be atleast 2x of its previous ATH so in my opinion $150K even possible at some point.

It's all just speculation and no one can predict what will happen in the future, so if you are lucky then sure you can atleast make 400% returns by the end of bull season if you invest at current price.

There has always been an increase in price after every halving and as we all know halving takes place once every four years to help control the scarcity of bitcoin, not just a normal increase in price it has been known that bull run follows after each halving seeing butcoin rise to a new ATH. Every bitcoiner have been anticipating this for the past 3 years now waiting patiently to make use of this coming opportunity. No one knows for sure how far bitcoin price will rise as some people are even anticipating probable x10 and above as it did in the past.

If you have witnessed a bull run before then you wouldn’t doubt the power of a bull run, i have not experienced it myself but people who did have told me stories about it that I can’t wait to witness it myself. They say a month is too long for bitcoin price to rise as high as possible so in rhe coming year am open to any expectation.

This is true and it could actually affect investments but that doesn’t mean people will not invest and utilize the upcoming opportunity, alot of people have been making plans ahead for the coming bull market and it doesn’t matter how much you invested since there is no specific amount set as an investment target all that matters is not to miss out entirely on the opportunity.

People who have experienced bull market are the ones making these predictions because they are aware of how bitcoin moves during these period but speculations are speculations and doesn’t really matter what we expect or not the most important thing is to be able to realize profits at that time. If you have the means to double your investment we should not hesitate to do so because the more your investment the more your profits.

I'd expect a mix of speculations coming through - both negative and positive. But whatever it is none form them can be right, we only just know when the halving comes.

For now, investing seems to be a great idea for me. Despite being unpredictable and the current economic situation, we're still hopeful that the rise will come and make another ATH. It means that if we invest today we have a chance of earning more than just investing a little. Actually, I'd never think about $70,000 or $100,000 but what I just think is that at least the price of Bitcoin will pump.

Price speculation maybe more over than that since many think that this time would bring more different and price could able to reach more than $100,000 next year. But I will do realistic approach since I don't want to fall on wrong position that I may regret since for me I always put in my mind that whatever profit I get still good since it still profit so I would not wait for new ATH to be reach since maybe we might see a different halving effect for next year. But if price would really reach for the figures mentioned then for sure it will catch a lot of attention in the mainstream so lets just see if all good things we speculate will come since this might bring good adoption if price of bitcoin rise to another level.

For people thinking about when to accumulate then maybe this is the best time for them to start saving up for hodl purposes since current price is actually good to execute our buy orders since maybe we can see some rise on next couple of months.

 I appreciate your level-headed view on this. Too often, we get caught up in moonshots and Lambos, but doubling your investment is a win in most financial books. The crypto world's a rollercoaster, and your $50,000 prediction seems plausible. With the global economic uncertainty, it's good to keep both feet on the ground.

Bitcoin is a relatively young asset, so it has a lot of potential and I think that the initial plan should include a much higher probability than just doubling our investment.

The average cycle that Bitcoin goes through takes 4 years, and hoping during this time to just double your investment is a very small profit with quite large risks, since in a traditional business you can also achieve a return on investment over a period of about 5 years. And since we are talking about Bitcoin, we should expect significantly larger profits over this period, I expect no less than x4-x5.

If we focus solely on the potential for profit, it's easy to say that the more we invest, the better, as it can yield a larger return. There's no limit when it comes to the possibility of a bull run. Maybe even $100k per Bitcoin could be considered a conservative prediction because, based on past scenarios, it can go much higher. It's much more exciting to expect a tenfold return on our investment, which means Bitcoin could potentially reach $300k. That might sound high, but it's possible. During a bull run, the hype is intense, and people often experience FOMO, leading to the possibility of an overvalued price. However, after every bull run, a correction period follows. But we can maximize our profits before the correction begins. Typically, during a correction, bitcoin can become oversold, making it undervalued, which is a good time to accumulate again.

You're right, investing in bitcoin forces us to take greater risks, so just setting goals and expectations of x2 or x3 assets is too modest. We need to expect and achieve greater returns commensurate with what we have faced in the last four to five years. I will not sell my bitcoin if it does not reach $150k or more, I have faith and expectation that bitcoin will easily reach that level in the upcoming bull run. If we only expect x2 profits in 4 years then I would rather be in business and I can make bigger profits than that.

I call it a short-term investment, but for long-term holders, don't want to give up their Bitcoin holdings too early. 1 year after the Halving seems more reasonable and there will be more massive price movements. The principle of doubling an investment seems reasonable, but it also means that we quickly end the value of holdings over a long period of time just because we can't wait to take a bigger share. Let's say you sell it in the near future but can't recover the initial purchase price. Some investors buy Bitcoin at different prices so selling it at too early a price makes the profits less visible. Therefore, long-term holders choose to wait and maximize profits at the Halving moment.

The halving never caused the price to rise instantly, it happened only after 6+ months, and it is possible that there won't be a significant bull run until Q4 2024. However, I do not see it as unrealistic (or impossible) that we have a pre-halving effect that could perhaps cause a 25% to 50% price increase before April 2024. Anyone who invests today and gets the opportunity to earn 100% after 1 year should be happy if that happens, but if they don't want to risk it, keep the money in the bank or under the mattress.


Halving is something that is definitely happening, but don't forget the possible approval of the spot BTC ETF in the US that can happen in the next few months, and most experts think that it will resonate very positively. In combination with the halving, it could very easily increase the price by at least x2 or more compared to the last ATH - which means that we could be talking about a price of $150k for 1 BTC sometime in late 2024 or 2025.

If you aren't in a rush to sell you'll have to time the sale to make most profits. Halving indicates to bitcoin's price going high but there isn't a regular pattern or rule for this. You don't want to hodl too long so you'll miss out on larger profits. The halving threads in the forum's getting frantic because of FOMO.

Looking at the last time Bitcoin experienced a halving, it is true that this year Bitcoin halving will occur again. However, when talking about a massive increase in the bitcoin market price or what is usually called a bull market, it usually occurs a year after the bitcoin halving occurs. Because this can be seen from the bullish market that occurred in the previous phase. This happened one year after the bitcoin halving occurred. Because if you think about it logically, you can be sure that bitcoin will experience an increase in price, of course it can't just go up straight away. But of course you have to go through the process of offering and purchasing bitcoin on a large scale first. After that, the price of bitcoin will definitely experience an increase in its market price.

And regarding predictions of the highest bitcoin prices that might occur in the next bull market. It's true, many investors predict that bitcoin could reach a price of $100k in the upcoming bull market. Perhaps this prediction was put forward because it was based on the highest price of bitcoin that occurred in the previous bull market, namely $66.9k. So maybe many bitcoin investors think that the bullish market that occurred after this year's halving could exceed the ATH price of bitcoin in the previous phase.

Because that makes sense too. Because in the last few years bitcoin users have continued to increase quite significantly. So with this, it will definitely have an impact on the price of bitcoin in the upcoming bull market.

Your opinion is not wrong. Because the possibility of this happening is greater. However, you need to know that every bitcoin investor who saves their assets for the upcoming bull market will definitely have their own price benchmark for selling their bitcoin assets. So if you are only chasing a 1× profit, the scenario you created must be very correct. However, for bitcoin investors who are chasing profits of more than 1x, you can be sure that the scenario you created will not be suitable.

Correct, I'm not expecting Bitcoin's price to rise right when the halving occurs. It'll take months, however, I believe that as we're heading towards April, the price is probable to gradually increase and surpass $40,000 pre-halving and perhaps reach up to $50,000 a month or two afterwards. The point is that we're less than a year away from where we're expecting a major increase in price, which is the last quarter of 2024. And yes, I'll have to agree with you, 2020 and 2021 were quite stagnant years for the economy, due to Covid-19, quarantines, travel restrictions and a whole disruption in the supply chain, the effects of which are still seen today. So indeed, there's a decent chance of Bitcoin ignoring the current economic recession.
I don't want to fall short of my expectations; I'd prefer to be modest and satisfied with what I have, although I'm quite positive that in the upcoming two years, it's very probable to see a new ATH that would triple my investment. However, as I've mentioned already, it's best to be modest and have more down-to-earth expectations.
Judging by what we've already seen Bitcoin succeed at, a new ATH isn't an unrealistic expectation. Surely, it won't happen now, but I wouldn't doubt that it's likely to happen in the next two or three upcoming years, which would result in 3x or even 4x profits. It's an insane amount of money, if you consider it.
That's correct, but still, Q4 of 2024 is approximately a year from now and may even result in a new ATH or at least somewhere close to $50,000 or $60,000, which is still great judging by the shortness of time it would be required from now. Those who are able to invest now won't regret it.
I haven't heard of it, to be honest. I've been quite busy with life the past few weeks, so I've lost touch with the news regarding cryptocurrencies. That would honestly be great, and I'd love to purchase some Bitcoin now, but at the same time, I'd rather not. It's a complicated matter, and I wish I could somehow speed up my accumulation process.

I don't consider my investment goal to be doubling my money, but rather a return on what I have invested. That's the profit I expect from this investment, but I don't have a definite target when I will take this profit. If the price of bitcoin can reach x2 in the next few months due to halving factors or so on, then maybe I will take some of the profits and keep the rest for a longer period of time.

So far I've consistently accumulation as much as I can, but I only plan to do it until the halving. If the price of bitcoin during the halving has reached $50k, then I will stop accumulation and wait for the best moment to take profits. This is just a plan, but it may still change should the price of bitcoin not exceed $50k at the halving.

So youre saying that people should really be just only thinking about 2x return or profit on their Bitcoin investment or holdings? Yes, it would be something that good to look at but we know that majority of us would really be looking for something better and we do always really love on reflecting into those past years on which Bitcoin did surprise most of us here on this space on which reaching out numbers on which we didnt really that even expect that it would really be able to reach out on that level.It did really just turn out to be that this market is totally random and cant be known and this is why we do really keep on making that speculative approach. Just let people to think on what they are thinking whatever whether it would really be positive or negative or something realistic or non realistic. Its their money that they had invested on which it is really just normal that peoples approach and speculations would really differ to each other.

It is quite clear that we don't know what the price of bitcoin will be by next year, but that won't make me have a moderate price tag to sell my bitcoin assets at $50k, even when I know that after months of the halving season, Bitcoin tends to give a new ATH.  

To tell you the truth, many crypto investors would like to aim for more than double the profits of their bitcoin investment. At least many will be looking at a profit of 3x or 4x of their bitcoin investment, depending on the market condition of crypto.

Many miners will start earning half as fewer after the halving occurs, and miners mining with the same machines will have earned half as fewer BTC since the event took place. For this reason, many miners will choose to shut down their mining machines completely due to a significant drop in earnings.
The risky part will be the decisions to be taken by large mining companies that calculate this process in advance. Especially in the period before and after the halving event, many miners may choose to sell the BTC they hold in order to cover the costs. This could trigger a serious selling pressure in the market. I think that the market will bottom in March, which is closest to the halving, miners will collect BTC with whales while the market is at the bottom to cover their increased costs, and after making the market unbearable for a while, the market will rocket in November 2024 as we approach 2025. We should prepare our investment for every situation and doubling the amount in our pockets may be later than we think. All this is not investment advice and you should make your own decisions in the market.

The block reward reduction will not have any impact on miners. This will only happen if the bitcoin price does not increase, but if the bitcoin price still increases and creates a new ATH as before, miners will still make huge profits. They have no reason to stop the work that is bringing them wealth.


I think the market has bottomed out in 2021 and $15K is the lowest we've ever been. There will be more corrections until the bull market emerges but no new bottom will be made. But no one knows exactly when bull season will come, the future is unpredictable.

It's true that we are going to end up with something that will change some things and if we are careful then we are going to do fine as well. Too many people are focusing on how good we can do and forget about what we can do right now. The future is there, and yes we are going to be doing fine with time, but we need to remember that we are going to end up with something much better with time.

So all in all I am assuming that we are going to be doing fine as long as we do fine right now. The future is written in my mind already, maybe I am wrong but if you ask me right now, I will say that there will be a new ATH by at latest 2025, that's guaranteed in my mind, if I am wrong then I am wrong. But even if I am right, if I do not buy any, then what good does it do?

I think nearly all fellow forum members here will at least make 3x in next halving and bull run through Bitcoin and better altcoins. Its pretty much safe guess. But issue here is to make more money before halving through other methods as Bitcoin stalls a bit. If you invest into Bitcoin at the right time you would make more because your initial investment will be bigger. That's why people mainly look for other methods instead of focusing at nearly guarenteed 2x through Bitcoin.

There is always the possibility that something positive will happen, but also that something negative will happen that will affect the price of BTC. Yesterday, the price briefly flew towards $30k because some amateurs announced that the SEC approved a spot ETF from BlackRock, which of course was fake news. If fake news has such an effect, one only has to wonder what will happen if at some point such news appears that will be true.

Investing in BTC is always risky, not only because of the price, but also because of the way someone stores such sensitive data. However, as the old saying goes, "he who does not take risks, does not profit", it is up to each individual what he will do with his money.

I already mentioned to you that it would not be bad if you look for a better paid campaign, you are a solid poster and you are active on the forum, why not take advantage of that?

If you have the privilege to double your investment, then it's a good idea to do so because it creates more opportunities to earn higher than you would have only Invested on, some people make this decision that instead of doubling it at once, they do it gradually using DCA, all our money should be reinvested back to the profitable asset like bitcoin and when the market rises then we sell and reinvest back again and so on the whole process continues.

What kind of privilege?
Multiplying an investment cannot be done easily, it requires a project that will indeed be bullish in the end and also requires patience.

All have the same rights, it is only if they have a large enough capital at the beginning that they have the privilege.

But big capital also needs good planning in order to multiply it.
Don't put everything into investments, make a reserve to overcome when there are some strategies that are not suitable.
Doing DCA is a good strategy, but also supported by in-depth knowledge about trading and when to buy.

As in you were capable of it? I assume that is what he was talking about but I think he can respond to it himself. At the end of the day we are talking about a situation where it is going to be terrible if you do not know what you are doing, and there will be some situations where it is not going to be all that easy to handle neither, we are talking about doubling here and anyone who is capable of doing that must be both good and lucky at the same time ,one of them alone can't make you get that much return.

Bull runs are there for a reason, so that you make more than double of your investment, so that when the bull run ends, you could stop making profit like that but keep the profits you have and hope that the average comes down to double per year.

Yes, you are right, everyone who has made an investment has certainly thought carefully about when is the right time to buy it and take advantage of what they invested, of course they have different methods from others, but in essence they will continue to double their investment to be able to get even greater profits, but we need to see when is the right time to add investment from the profits we have previously obtained so that we can still get other profits.

I also have fewer expectations this time. But I guess reaching its previous ATH at least is conservative which means it is still over 200% growth to the current price of bitcoin. This is why I am also considering altcoins since reaching their previous ATHs will give higher returns although they are more risky of course. But we can just allocate a smaller portion of our portfolio to some altcoins, especially ethereum which based on its current price is more than 300% if it returns to its previous ATH and it is very likely to happen within this cycle.

Expecting a greater pump in price is not just a mere speculation actually because we all know where this bitcoin price is heading to. Especially that halving is nearly approaching, all is really expecting a positive price feedback after that. Although predictions will remain predictions not until that certain time comes, but we know for sure that those predictions have high probability to happen. But you were right then, no matter how positive the future of bitcoin will be, we should still stick to the basic to never invest more than you can afford to lose.

However, I am very optimistic that if we start accumulating bitcoin as early as now, then it’s not far to happen to double our investment after the bitcoin halving happens. Just continue to hold bitcoin for long term, and have faith in the process. Bitcoin remains highly profitable in the end no matter how risky it is.

The trend every 4 years is unique because price increases can reach 200% or more, especially since early 2024 there will be a halving which will make mining supply increasingly difficult and the easiest thing to usually do is buy more before the busy season occurs, and buy more when Cheap prices like now are certainly the best decision.

Those of us who have been around for a few cycles don’t think that a x4 return from here is out of the question. Almost the opposite as we’ve seen this happen every four years several times now. Sure a x2 return would be great and I wouldn’t spit at it, but at the same time, I think it’s more likely we see a x3 than a x2 this cycle.

True, Normally Everyone wants profits but is not ready to lose money and I think it is also a great way to test one's trading ideas and market perspective if one has too high expectations in the world of trading.


Usually when the hype goes down, prices tend to stabilize. As you explained, similar trading situations repeat themselves over time and it is also relevant if we relate them to past data and what generally happens, whatever the conditions. In fact, trend traders enter as early as possible and exit before the trend reverses.

In a traditional model, getting a return of 5%/yr is about normal. Sometimes its a little bit more and goes into double digits like 10+%. What we are saying here is we are not ok unless it goes to 100+% return.

I think everyone needs to be a bit cautious/conservative with expectations, its probably going to surpass these conservative numbers but there is no guarantee. Only invest in what you can lose

Bitcoin has always provided investors with the opportunity to increase their investment many folds. It is predicted that BTC price will dip below $20k in the coming months before a bull run. After BTC halving in 2024, the price will start to increase and might reach a new ATH in 2025. Let's say that the price will dip to $15k, and in the bull run, the price will at least go past the previous ATH, say $70k. For 1 BTC ($15k), you will get a $55k profit within 2 years (more than double). No other investment can give you this much return on investment in such a short period.
Buy Bitcoin now and secure your future.

When you invest, you should be ready for everything. You might see double of your investments, or even triple profits. You can also face losses and anything can happen to be frank. What we can do is just estimate based on past growth and future projections. We have seen Bitcoins follow a 4 year cycle to reach ATH price, and 2024 is expected to be the 4th year. So yes if that happens then we can see 3x the investment. So let’s hope for the best and keep on accumulating the coins.

Just let people on thinking on what are the things that they do have in mind on which we do have our own price targets and if they are hoping for 3x or more then so be it. You cant really just blame them considering on
how this crypto moves on random and surprising way basing up on what happened back in the past where hitting up huge multipliers but its true that lets really be that realistic considering  that we are already on high
price already on which reaching out 2x or 3x is already a struggle. We would really be needing more funds on pushing up the price even on $100k a piece. This is why i do agree with some points that you had elaborated on which setting up some realistic approach or goals which it wont really be thinking on hitting 500k or 1M per coin which it is really just that too impossible.

Better to make yourself that prepare and make out some realistic numbers rather than expecting something big which it is that non realistic at all. You would really be finding yourself
that getting disappointed on the time that the price wont really be moving on the way that you are anticipating. This is why it would really be always that recommended
that you should be sticking onto those probabilities which it is likely to happen rather than on being too optimistic but way too unrealistic. Well we do have our own
hopes and expectations but just like been said that dont hope too much.

Certainly not. If you read more carefully, you'll understand that $50,000 is a very realistic price to see in the upcoming months; thus, doubling your investment shouldn't require too much time, effort, or risk, judging that Bitcoin's price used to be $26,000 a few days ago. With that being said, it would somewhat be considered a relatively easy investment, but as I've already mentioned, these are all hypotheses.
That's true; I can only imagine what's going to happen if it's approved. Some fake news was enough to send its price up to almost $30,000, which is astounding. Along with the halving and a possible upcoming bull market, it's quite probable to send Bitcoin up to $100,000 or even more. As for the signature campaign, I'm generally satisfied with where I'm at; however, it's quite reasonable to always aim for more. I acknowledge that there are a few relatively new ones that pay quite well, but I don't see any vacant spots at the moment, and even if there was a spot or two, I don't know if I'd apply with so much competition going on.
Definitely, I experienced the bull market in 2017 and 2020, respectively, and I'm quite confident about Bitcoin's capabilities in the next bull market. 3x looks quite possible, let alone 2x. I'm not quite sure how I'll react in an upcoming bull market, but I'm aiming for at least $60,000, nothing less.

I think I understand the OP, it might actually not be a big deal for those who are in the world of trading and investment for so long to double their investment. It might be hyped more than it actually is but a very good consideration is the price at which halving meets Bitcoin. Imagine halving meeting Bitcoin at $50,000 and it later hit the ATH of $100,000, such can't freak many experienced traders and investors, especially those with a little capital.

I thought extensively about it early this year when I opened a trading account and I made x6 of my investment in less than 2 months without risking excessively. Bitcoin might not be able to do that in a year if halving meets it at about $30,000. So, it depends on people, their experience, satisfaction with their investment and their ability to actually use money to make more money in diverse ways.

Well, it's not bad actually if some highly optimistic people are expecting to make 3x or 4x returns from their investments. That is also their way of motivating theirselves to never stop from accumulating bitcoin while the price is still affordable. However, they just need to be more open-minded on what will be the future outcome of their investments as they don't hold the future price of bitcoin.

Regardless of how much you expect from your investment returns, that is of less importance. What is more crucial is that we never stop from taking advantage of bitcoin opportunities most especially that bitcoin halving is getting near. Do not be too obsessed with the future bitcoin price as no one gets an edge of that, but focus on your investment preparations while the market is still allowing us.

There aren't rules or patterns about cycles so we can't say we know it's going to happen so we're all tipping opinions. I've invested in a mini portfolio but I'm stacking sats so I'll be smiling on x3 return. What worries me is ppl who won't sell at comfy returns so they'll incur a loss when they've hodl more.

Very relevant if you expect at least $60,000, no less..I also looked at the market performance at that time, whereas bullish moves always take time to form and develop, bearish moves tend to be relatively short and sharp. In addition to technical analysis, knowing the Bitcoin space well will also help, whether the price goes up or down. Short sales can be very risky if the lender withdraws the asset before the price has a chance to fall.

"as you can get in crypto"? Bu,t we are already here. Or you maybe you forgot to include the word " any " there because the subject is mostly about BTC. The double price for BTC is very much achievable even by this year when the situation gets better. More if next year since there is a BTC halving and it can help the price to rise quickly. If about two years, BTC value might be at $200k already or more. Maybe not all has a solid patience to wait that long but as long as they can sell at profits and not a loss, that will still be acceptable. Dips are a part of investing so we should learn to live around them. They are not always a disadvantage anyways.

In fact, the goal of people investing is to see the value of the money they invest double or so on, we just have to count the months until the Bitcoin halving actually occurs, but currently there are quite a lot of people who are preparing their money to invest in Bitcoin when the halving occurs.  i myself don't have high expectations for the price of bitcoin, which many predict will exceed the ATH during the halving, but i am very confident that the price of bitcoin will move high when the halving occurs. 

We should never forget the existence of the risk factor. We make our investments to make a profit, but we need to take every possibility into consideration.

I think Bitcoin's 4-year cycles will continue and the bull season will occur in 2024. There may be a 1-year delay, but we will finally experience the bull season. We all want the value of our investments to increase. I don't want to say anything that will be 2x or 3x, but I think there will be a new ATH.

That's what makes me uneasy because it's where ppl will make biggest losses. New bitcoin buyers join the usual masses every day without understanding if there's any risks of over investments. Halving's creating new investment ops. If investors intend on short sales because of halving they'll get in trouble.

Well, it's also not wrong to expect massive returns from our investment like seeing it 3x or even 4x from our investment capital. But that will only happen if you are a high-profile investor and is putting exceedingly large amount on your investment. For sure, you will reap what you sow in time. But if we are just a small scale investor, then never expect too much. If you invest minimal amount, you will only profit a small amount as well no matter how bullish its price is.

However, one should not invest and think of immediate profits. You will only lose your chance seeing your investment with bigger yields. Just invest a good amount of bitcoin and hold it for long term, the result will still be a lot of profits when you make an investment and just try to forget about it. Let's say if you hold for maximum of 5 years, surely you will reap highly exceptional amount of profits.

In the current price, if we break the ATH on this cycle it is given that our investment today when Bitcoin is @ $28,814.90 will be more than doubled.  The good thing with investment is that even though it has risk, the risk can be mitigated or nullified through intensive study and research of the market.  And with Bitcoin investment that has a 4-year cycle pattern, it is much easier to predict whether our investment will gain profit or not.  Though it is true that the past performance is not indicative of the future performance but history has been proven to repeat itself especially when a cycle is developed.

History does prove to repeat itself but not in the same way.
There will be some differences in the increase of ATH yesterday and ATH in the future caused by Halving.

Buying and holding for the long term now could provide more than 2x the profit if the new ATH is reached and my target at that time was $100k.
No need to do detailed research on the upcoming ATH of Bitcoin because it will happen, just need to be patient and hold for the long term until the ATH target is reached.

2024-2025 will hopefully be a bullish year for Bitcoin and more investors will come in.
Now, many have also given their crazy predictions about the price of Bitcoin, so we just need to be prepared with our bags.

I would say that breaking ATH will be the similar part, but the % difference will not be the same. If we want to compare, we have dropped all the way to 4k last time around, and went to 68k levels at the peak, that was the price before the halving and that was the peak after the halving.

If we were to use it for the same math, that would mean we dropped to 15k and should be going towards 250k or so in order to make the same type of increase that we had last time around. Now, I do believe that we are going to break over that ATH but I do not think that 250k is all that possible, that would be a lot more than what we bargained for and that should not really be all that easy to handle neither, we need to find something that would be a little bit different.

The purpose of investing more is to earn more as well. Why not do it as long as it won't compromise our finances and if we are willing to take risks? It is an individual decision and for sure, we know the situation and the consequences that may happen if ever we fail.
If it has been asked if it is more profitable, I believe it is as long as we are investing profitable coins as well. Because it depends on the coins that we invested but if we are buying shitcoins, expect more losses than earning a profit.

The same history will probably repeat itself but to reach the price of 250k it will take a long time until 2050, but we assume with a realistic target that the price of 100k will probably be achieved after the halving period, the market increase this week indicates that the bullish season will soon come ahead of the halving period. I have added investment assets before being bullish and I am sure the target of 100k will be achieved in 2024-2025, so make sure you immediately determine your investment steps before the market reaches high prices, take advantage of investment opportunities wisely by considering risk factors and allocate investment funds that are not related to basic needs and emergency funding needs.

People should really be having that realistic approach because if you wont really be finding yourself that having that kind of path taking then most likely you would really be making those speculations which it turns out to be non-realistic on which in this case the desperate acts and doings will really be likely to happen. This is why it would really be just that wise that we should really be sticking into things which we do see that it could possibly happen on a particular time frame. Yes, we do able to witness that bull run which we didnt anticipate that the price would really be hitting up those numbers but we should really be that realistic this time that if ever it hits up 69k on ATH then it would really be that something that too hard on reaching out $150k on next one.
As we do go further then the harder it do gets if we do speak about multipliers yet value is becoming that too big on which comes into a point that it would really be that so hard to reach on.

If you are anticipating for $500k or even a million then there's no way that it could happen so easily.We would be needing that global scale type of adoption and recognition
about this matter and this is why it would be better to have that realistic approach rather than on having these numbers in mind which it makes you that simply being
that too delusional.

Those were the unusually bullish times that Bitcoin reached in the 3rd Halving.
People panicked to sell Bitcoin until it dropped to $4k and eventually reached an ATH of $68k leaving behind overly panicked sellers.
The percentage, of course, will not be the same absolutely, there will be some differences, we just have to wait for the Bullish version of the 4th Halving.

Surpassing the ATH is Bitcoin's current goal and is everyone's prediction to reach $100k+.
But $250k is a pretty high price.

We need to break $100k first and should stay there before going for the highest price.
It's a lot of process and it will fluctuate.

I think we should stick to investing only what we could afford to lose, when it comes to investment specially in crypto we all know how volatile it is.
I know that most of us have a big expectation to the next halving but for me right now I wouldn't tighten my budget just to invest more than I could.

I agree with that. There is definitely nothing wrong in hoping for more, but having realistic expectations is always the better way to go when you are making investments because, with lower expectations, the possibility of disappointment will be low as well, which means that if you are expecting the price of Bitcoin to hit $100k, you might not sell your assets when it has reached a certain height, like maybe $80k just because you are expecting more, and if it doesn't reach your expected target and starts dropping again, that will be disappointing, for sure.

That's why, I always believe that a person should hope for more, but they should expect less so that they can be satisfied when their expected target is hit and whatever they get on top of that will be a reason for enjoyment for them because then they can think that they have got some bonus with it.

Right now, the majority of the community in this industry field really believes that Bitcoin will reach 100,000 dollars per BTC. Why? as many experts say that it will actually happen. Of course, since we don't know enough about this matter, it will prevail over us to believe them because they are experts. They know more about the real movement in the crypto market, and we don't know that.

But at the end of the day, everything they said about Bitcoin positively still remains speculation. That's why, even so, we can somehow see the truth that it can really happen, also based on what's happening in the news we hear in the crypto market, although there are other news articles that are not true. Just like what happened to what Cointelegraph did just a couple of days ago.

Totally opposite on what i do believe because experts doesnt mean that they would really be giving out precise predictions on what would happen in the future and this is why its not really that something giving that assurance that it could happen. You could always have that kind of choice which you do seem that it would happen but its not bad to look at on others sentiments and predictions and its up to you whether you would really be that hyper bullish towards the market or Bitcoin itself or would really be that tending to be that conservative because if you are really that too optimistic but the price didnt hit up on what you had
expected or anticipated then it would really be bringing out that kind of disappointment and frustration on which this kind of feeling which i dont really like to be felt.

Doubling investment? It is really that considerable rather than on praying about hitting 4-6x of investment specially on Bitcoin but well i cant really blame out people who are really that
bullish with Bitcoin specially now that we are already fast approachg towards halving event which we know that this is really that indeed a huge or major event.

You can expect to double your investment returns when you invested earlier at a very affordable price, that is when bitcoin is still at its $20k or below. When bitcoin halving is over, probably we will achieve a price that is close to the last ATH or even exceeds it. However, if you invest just months ago, then I suggest to stay practical on your expected investment returns. As long as you are seeing small profits, regardless of its amount, that is still a profit so you have to take part in selling your coins so you can also enjoy those little profits.

But if asked if you have to sell everything in your portfolio to achieve maximum profits, I believe its your own decision already. No one will manage your investment but only yourself. However, if you ask me, If am not in a situation that badly needs a huge amount of profits, then I will never decide to sell all my coins so I can still enjoy the future profits of my remaining investment.

If we don't stick to investing only what we could afford to lose we'll face hardship. It's easy to become attached to dreams about doubling investments but that isn't always what occurs. Investors have big expectations until they panic after prices fall that's when they'll sell.

First of all, no one knows what will actually happen in the market because we are all predictors in the trading industry. And the number of people who will believe depends on whether the prediction of each trader is really valid or not, whether there is a solid basis or not.

Everything we expect comes from the predictions of other experts who we know have more experience and have a broader or deeper understanding of trading here in the crypto business. It all comes down to speculation in the end.

More than a week into this topic, take a look at what's happening in the Bitcoin market. At the time I wrote this post, Bitcoin was trading at around $33,888. A sharp spike has just occurred, Bitcoin seems to dispel all doubts when world economic conditions are less promising.
An assumption based on each individual's personal point of view in assessing the situation and conditions that exist between the world economy and investment constraints, but all of this is still gray. Once again Bitcoin has been able to show its strength as one of the best value storage investments.
I cannot yet confirm that this spike is an early sign that a new ATH will come or that Bitcoin will return to sluggishness and then take new steps to return to its highest price next year.

Only 179 days from now, so the bitcoin halving will happen, and it won't be long before we see. Every four years we experience a bull market and the price of Bitcoin reaches its highest peak during that time. Half a year is much less time for this halving to happen, and we can anticipate a bull market during this period and see the market at a good level. As we have seen earlier in 2021 the Bitcoin market ATH peaked at $69k, accordingly we can predict the bull market price to be above $100,000. This will be really interesting when the market will rise overnight and the bull run will start and the price of Bitcoin will continue to increase and move to this level. As we believe it is not too late today, we will see market positions soon. At this time the market is currently in the range of $35,000, and we expect Bitcoin to cross $50,000 before the halving. And those who invested during this time will surely get double profit when the market price will be five times ATH.

Everyone is responsible for the investments they make, so if they have received their profits from the investments they have made, of course they have to decide well whether they will take the profits they have earned to enjoy or take their profits to add to the investments they have made. Yes, you are right, if we do not have a very important need then it is better for us not to sell the assets we have and leave them so we can take bigger profits at other opportunities that we will get.

Although I am not saying that $100,000 per BTC is impossible to achieve, but in reality it may have a very slim chance depending on the next big hype that is going to happen like what Elon Musk did last 2021.

But in my own instinct. I think there wouldn't be someone who can do much bigger influence than Elon Musk did last time during the days where BTC almost reached $70k.

I have yet to reach x2 of my BTC investment as I still have long ways to go since I've done DCA for most of last year. I am aiming for a specific target price before selling. Once it pulls back, I will be setting my specific buying position as well.

The crypto market will always have the final say as their movement is not in our control. Even if we are that skilled in predicting, reading the charts, technical analysis, etc., it won't be perfect as there will be unexpected happenings along the way. 

BTC has excessive volatility beyond almost any other market so yes is the answer to the question.  Your normal estimates and weighting to your expectations are inaccurate, this market is substantially different to any other.    You are more likely to double then it appears, partly you could phrase this as events beyond the horizon have a greater velocity then we can perceive or view directly at present.   
  The bears or negative view of BTC some have would also like to state for balance in all fairness that BTC has greater risk of going the other way, some think it can and will go to zero and this is a far more probable outcome then expected by participants.  I might disagree personally but I'll take that point as fair in terms of balance and statistically this is an erratic market so their view of destructive markets destroying themselves in some way sooner or later is how they view BTC.  I view it as wildly bullish but patience will be tested, I expect more negative is still ahead and possible.

The current global economic situation is certainly not good. With two major wars going on at the same time, it is highly likely that economic institutions will not fare well. We also often hear about the bankruptcy of various financial institutions. In particular, the condition of the banking system is not very good. But the positive thing here is that since Bitcoin is a decentralized asset, people are trying their best to convert their wealth into Bitcoin. As a result, the demand for Bitcoin is also increasing massively. If a person loses confidence in keeping slowly building wealth in traditional platforms then Bitcoin is a suitable platform where you can invest your wealth safely against inflation. In the current scenario, Bitcoin price is rising and will continue to increase, we expect bitcoin price will surpass  the previous ATH in the next year.

The reason for the high assumptions is because It's easier to achieve higher returns when a coin just gets listed onto the markets than a coin that has been in the markets for a long time, and in this case Bitcoin has been around for a while and seems to have slowed down greatly because the majority of crypto users aren't buying a whole Bitcoin because of the high price and will need investor money to push it higher.

Any investment strategies that allow for easy doubling of capital can not be found in the open,if it were this easy people would have been super rich by now.

In the case of Bitcoin, it was easy to make 5x or 10x your capital because this was undervalued at the time and it grew with demand, and unfortunately today it seems to have slowed down because price has gone up alot and will need deep pockets for the doubling to be possible once again.

If you can carry Holding long time there is no need to doubling your investments
Because your funds will make its way to multiplier even how many than just doubling and also why bother to
add more when you are safer and contented in how much you are going to risk? remember that this market
is about risk and trust and also what we keep telling newbies to "Invest what you can afford to lose"
so why need to add more ?

another thing is that you don't know where is the right timing , so buying one time big time is for me the most appropriate and
more favoring still.I bought mine last year (though i still have some sitting in my wallet before that purchase) but I kept holding
and waiting for the perfect timing to sell them all, maybe in the next bull run effect that will settle late part of 2024 or
the last early quarters of 2025.

I'll take that double than expecting too much which could just also cause a big dump afterward.
I am expecting Bitcoin to go until $40k when ETF arrives and then the halving boosting it more at $45k. That's it and I will be happy to see Bitcoin making that number as its new bottom because there will be the ETF that could help prevent it from going down again.
Those profits cannot be received in other investments and it's not like it will take long before that happens. It's so soon that many got excited and purchased earlier which could be the reason for the increase in demand and value of the said coin.
IMO, it's difficult to be in a position where I will regret it again with not riding the pump. All those who bought earlier are super lucky especially when Bitcoin was still in $16k in December of 2022. A year of patience is worth it now and there's a chance the profits might go higher.

Why do you have little faith though? did Bitcoin already failed to reach new all time high every 4 years? I will have doubts as well if we have somewhat didn't see a bull run in 2020-2021, because of the pandemic, so obviously you are already proven wrong with your argument.


Yeah, and just like when you posted this thread, suddenly the price went on a spike, reaching as high as $35,150 and then we are trading on $34,310. Not to rub it in, but Bitcoin proves it's doubters again, sorry to burst the bubble to you OP.


And let's just wait till the bull run in 2024-2025 and see how big it will be. Just for the record, the lowest low is $15,500. And with the current price, we are almost 130% from it, meaning if we have bought at that price last year and continue to do DCA one year later, we should be in the profit right now. So in the next bull run, the returns could be higher than we expected, just saying.

We know that people wont really be just that easy trying out to make x2 with their holdings but this is actually that we would really be normally be asking for more on which it is really that a common approach and which we know that there would really be people who would really be preferring on choosing altcoins rather than on sticking with Bitcoin basing up on the multiplier that they could get
then it would really be just that a normal approach that they cant really be able to possibly get with holding on Bitcoin alone but there's no doubt that when it comes to assurance then we can somewhat really that trust up to Bitcoin which we know that confidence is really there.

Doubling investment with Bitcoin? Yes, its possible and could be achieved or even more but doesnt mean that you would really be just limiting yourself into a single investment on a single coin.
You could really always have the option and choices whether you would really be considering other stuffs as well like altcoins or other projects which you do
seem for it to have the potential then you could really be having the choice.

I personally doubling investment will not be that easy, I even have my share of doubt whether the future market when bullrun arrives could truly regain the all time high, after all its really high all time high we got here with bitcoin because the market was previously invested heavily by many big companies that willing to invest millions into bitcoin including tesla.
now that many has withdrawn it might be quite difficult, but there are indeed still many companies putting millions for their investment diversification even more so from investment company that manages investment funds.
but i still accumulating in case new all time high will be reached then that will be massive investment returns because if all time high passed, it will be massive gain from the very bottom a few months ago.

we are both having that thought in this because in reality we have seen how much increase the price each Halving and we witnessed how strong the market can find , but the problem is that Sideways may change so never
expect too much like what OP telling us , because what if you double your investments then the price did nothit ATH and your capital is almost same as your outcome?
that may be so sad for you and will wait for another halving .
let go of those withdrawing their support because surely once the increase continues to come those people will come back and invest all their assets.
and truly best to accumulate more and more while it is very cheap .

Maybe OP is capable of doing such so let him be , but this is not a general advise as the more you double is the more you risk, it may be easy if you are for longer time of investment because you may choose time when to sell.
but if you are something like holding only for a year or so then did not find the perfect timing to invest? then you are for sure a loser.
investing what we could afford to lose is correct but sometimes we can also invest those we cannot afford but we must be willing to hold for long term.
i have learn buying each time i have funds no matter if it is dumping or climbing but separated for my short term investment and my long term because I divided my folio in two parts.

Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is a very risky investment and if you have doubts that you cannot double your account investing here, I think you should not invest in bitcoin. I don't mean to attack you, and what I want to say is, since we took a risk by investing in bitcoin, we should have bigger goals than doubling or tripling our investment. The risks we take when investing in this market are huge and we need to get the rewards we deserve. If you expect your investment to double, there are many other investments that do the same and are safer. Don't hesitate, set yourself a bigger goal and believe in bitcoin.

From which part are you implying that I've little faith in Bitcoin? My point is simply that the $50,000 mark isn't that far from our current price and is a very likely and realistic price to meet in the few upcoming months.
What bubble are you bursting? There's no bubble to burst, nor did I ever imply that I'm another doubter of Bitcoin; I wouldn't be here if I were one. I don't understand how you're claiming such a thing when I'm nowhere close to implying something like that.
I never mentioned that the lowest is $25,000, but that the nearest low of a few months is approximately there, which is still a decent price for those who missed the opportunity to buy at $15,000 or $20,000 in terms of investment capabilities, and $50,000 is a pretty viable target within 2024.
Apart from the ongoing wars themselves, I'm mostly worried about a new potential energy crisis. We already had a rough one after COVID-19 and the Ukrainian War, and the battlefront in the Middle East certainly isn't helping.

let them stay in altcoin and besides it is their money mate and we have no power against them so if that is
their decision then be it, but mine? I only have some few of it that i tried to use as diversifying strategy,like what have said , there is
 no problem if we are to double our investment but the question is that are we ready for sideways? because there are no complete
assurance here mate so why need to double when you can invest what is available and not requiring how much.take your chance
 at any time you wanted and how much you wanted.people here keep digging to tell OP to double his money but are we really there
to double ours?  I don't have to because I already had mine and waiting for the dragon to take over the market.not just bull lol.

Generally, when the global financial situation is good, there is a positive movement in all types of business, including the stock market of different countries. But the crypto market always behaves differently. As we saw in covid-19 when all types of financial institutions went bad crypto was bullish state. Again the current situation is exactly the same. With the effects of the current war and inflation seen in the world, the reports of all financial institutions are not good, but cryptos are on the bullish side. We may soon see a bullish movement in Bitcoin. As we look towards the Bitcoin halving event towards the end of next year, there is a lot of excitement among investors which is a positive aspect. Hopefully we'll soon see Halving move towards a major bull market and the upcoming bull market is going to be a significant event for Bitcoin.

You probably didn’t know what really happened to crypto when Covid-19 first hit hard the global economy. Bitcoin price plummeted from 10K to 3K level that time. Bitcoin just recover quickly than the rest of the global market due to the news of institutional investors entering crypto market.

But in general, Bitcoin is still affected on what’s happening on the global economy it’s just Bitcoin is so resilient which FUD doesn’t last longer and the hype is very strong to push the price quickly in upward movement.

I'm sympathetic towards ppl who've decided to buy before halving. I can’t blame them if they’ve invested in the hopes they’ll be selling for $100,000 because they’re surrounded by FOMO which’s pushed on them. If they’re investing with wisdom they’ll put in amounts they’re willing to lose if the value doesn’t surge the way they’d expected.

For investors it's a waiting game but if FOMO pressure gets to your head it’s going to force early sales so they’ll be disappointed with their returns. Investors have to be careful because halving events doesn’t mean short selling profits.

Those who are holding their bitcoin over the long bear season won't sell off their holdings early as the reward for their patience should be much higher. Halving reduces block rewards but historical data shows btc market doesn't move due to halving but other factors that happened post halving period ETF approval and halving are some obvious events that will occur in the future which can create the initial phrase of the bull rally. But there will be more unknowable positive events that represent a greater outcome.

While I understand your point, I believe that the situation was quite different during COVID-19. The whole economy had come to a stop, factories had shut down due to quarantine, and shipping industries were facing major issues. I can't explain why Bitcoin was thriving during that period; perhaps due to stocks' poor performance, investors switched to cryptocurrencies. Who knows? This is just another assumption. Now it's completely different; the economy has been disrupted as a result of two active battlefronts, both of which countries involved are active exporters of wheat (for Ukraine) and oil (for Israel).

The situation is quite complicated in general, and everything we say is mostly based on assumptions. I'm hoping Bitcoin isn't largely affected and that we can ultimately put an end to these wars before more innocent people suffer.

Totally a test of patience and perseverance and trust with your investment because if you are really that too impatient then it would really be ending up that kind of selling early or buying to early
on which we know that these are really that the crucial moments on which it does really needs up for someone to think up clearly and carefully because if you dont then you might really be that
ending up on making bad decisions just because you cant really be able to make yourself that seeing on what are the things that you are anticipating. I agree into those other words above that doubling investment could really be that achievable with Bitcoin specially into its current price which is 35k and hitting up its ATH then it does mean that we are really that getting x2.

I agree into those points that there are really just that people that who do really likes on dealing up with things on which it is more risky and this is why they are really that deciding
on touching up altcoins or projects on which they do seem that it does really have that chance on pumping out their price once the bull market happens.
Everything would really be still not sure because this market is been that unpredictable.

EFT approval's a factor but it's about the time they're expecting to hold before they're forced to sell to cut losses. If bitcoin doesn't surge weeks after halving how many investors would be getting worried enough to sell early? It's going to be about their personal circumstances but FOMO isn't an ideal reason to buy or sell.

Possible. Because many investors are expecting that after the halving next year that would be the start for the price to rise. Therefore if it didn't happened after weeks, weak investors might sell early for being uncertain of what to do with their investment and the fear of losing the money they invested.

Well, if you think investing in Bitcoin is profitable and you're firm of what you believe in, then invest. However there's always a risk because even the future seems bright for Bitcoin due to many factors that can influence the price to soar high. Everything is still uncertain. That's why investing is solely for people who have knowledge and can accept the result regardless of what could it be.

we are all optimistic that the price of bitcoin will increase significantly in the next few years. and doubling our current investment is a good decision. but it should be noted that investing in bitcoin doesn't need to be rushed, everything needs a process. increasing investment slowly is more recommended, for example by using the DCA method. with this method we can invest our money in bitcoin in a more measured way and reduce the potential for losses that we might experience.

Dollar Cost Averaging doesn't mean you will not incur losses, it is just the gradual and periodic investment of coin or other commodities at regular or equal basis by which you can take stock of your investment, progress from time to time and it mitigate against volatility. However, it value can drop depending on what you invested on but the good thing is if you invest on bitcoin then with patience the value will rise again in the future. For example El Salvador that invested 3years ago, I believe they will have good value of their bitcoin by the time of bull next year.

It was like BTC got shocked, and maybe the people panicked and sell. And since the life is hard outside, this leads for more people to sell their coins for a while to get something. Later on the situation about Covid became manageable and people starts earning an income again. That might also be the time that investors are entering crypto as you mentioned and people are now considering crypto and bitcoin as digital currency for use on different things. Another thing that makes FUD doesn't last long is because of the Bitcoiner's. They already know what BTC can do and they know that FUD's are nothing but only created to destroy BTC.

what you are applying here is the bitcoin investment method with DCA, so regardless of the price of bitcoin, you will buy it within the time period you planned, apart from that, only using money that we can lose in Bitcoin investment is a good thing in your financial management, buying bitcoin at a price like now will give you many benefits, sooner or later, bitcoin will definitely make a new ATH, so those who buy bitcoin regularly will definitely be lucky in the future.

Accepting results including the loss isn't something ppl can do effortlessly. If investors don't carry checks on how they'll be affected if their investment isn't as bright as they wanted they'll end up losing more than bitcoin. If they can't afford it they shouldn't invest. They've got to accept there's a risk so they shouldn't bank on expected profits after halving because we don't know what'll happen.

You can sell your coins and expect 3x or 4x from your investment capital, but the right time when to sell will still be indefinite. However, if the next year's bitcoin halving will leave a very good market position which enable bitcoin price to double or triple from the current price, then why not? Bitcoin can still be highly profitable even in the times when we least expect it.

I think what's important actually is that we get to sell in profits every time there is bull run, regardless if its 2x or 3x profitability. For me, that is more important so you won't miss any opportunity to make profits just because you are busy expecting a very high price resistance even if the market is still not capable to achieve it.

Even though we apply the DCA strategy, we must prioritize buying bitcoin at a lower price than the current market price to get maximum profit, the impact of market fluctuations allows the market to experience a market correction after a high increase, so we still have the opportunity to buy at a lower price and even though If you are focused on long-term investment, we still prioritize buying Bitcoin at the right price. The key to successful bitcoin investment is to be patient to carry out your investment strategy, my friend said he would invest if the price of bitcoin fell below $20k and he had been waiting for it after the last ATH last year, he had collected a 1x profit from his investment capital.

I agree with you. Instead of thinking that the price of Bitcoin will reach 100k, it is better to focus on what it will reach first. It is very impossible for it to reach that price in just a couple of candlesticks, there is always a retracement that will happen because there are resistances to be respected in the chart. So for now, we are expecting for the price to reach the ATH or surpassed it before we go to the next goal which is $100k price. I think there's a huge dump when the price hit $90k because of the idea that there will be panic selling when it reaches $100k resulting to a massive unfilled orders.

A lot of things will be at stake before Bitcoin reaches that amount of 100k when the bull run comes and just as you said bitcoin will face a lot of retrenchment along the way up and most likely when the price reaches and surpasses that last all-time high,  that will become the cardinals for many market sentimental movement because, at that point,  we have a lot of market forces that will be forcing the market price to slide backwards at most.

Sure prediction for the next year will be half of the 100k price predictions even after the bitcoin halving and other events.

This is not far from what some people are already doing; most people are buying Bitcoin consistently on a DCA strategy. Anyone who lives to only be speculative about the market without accumulating more Bitcoin is someone whom I assume might have had enough Bitcoin that they don't want to buy more. The amount of profit that is realized from every investment is dependent on the amount of capital that was invested, and I believe it's a simple principle that everyone knows: even in Bitcoin, the valum of your asset will determine the level of profit archived. In a nutshell, it's wise to keep accumulating rather than just pausing and hoping for the bull market.

Anyone who have been following Bitcoin for sometime now should already know that the price does not move in a straight like rather it will retrace sometime before continuing in the predominant direction. The expectations that Bitcoin will reach $100k is highly realistic  and that should be the least Bitcoin should do following the history and market cycle. For sure this will not happen overnight, there will be some turbulence to test the resolve of holders and also infuse some form of panic. This is how the market behaves but surely we will see good moves in coming months.

Yep, we're talking about risks, and when it comes to investing in Bitcoin, the risks are certainly higher compared to investing in gold. Its price is more volatile, which means that sometimes people with emotional and weak hands might panic and sell their BTC when the market goes bearish. The bottom line is, the more volatile the investment instrument you get into, the higher the chances of making big gains, but also the higher the risk if you have weak hands and can't HODL when the market turns bearish.

There might be some folks predicting it will go higher than $100k someday, even though it doesn't seem real at the moment, but we can't underestimate this volatile asset. Bitcoin could still reach that point, but it might take longer than your target of around $54k. Its movements are really unpredictable, and it always surprises the world. That's where we understand that the size of the risk is proportional to the potential gains, but there's also a significant chance of losses and bearing the brunt of it.

In the last couple of years, Bitcoin seems to have lost its character of volatility it was known for , making it more like a stable coin...

and if we look at the charts it shows up like a ranging coin at the moment which tells me that if you a investing in Bitcoin as a hodler it's much more difficult to double your investment than trading it the leveraged way which rewards you for small moves than waiting for a new ATH before you see the double.

Investors don't know if halving's going to provide profits for them. We don't know what's going to happen to bitcoin price after halving but ppl are buying now getting ready to take profits. I don't agree with ppl buying because of FOMO because they're expecting something which isn't guaranteed.

It is common for ordinary people who are just starting to invest in bitcoin to not know what halving is and what effect it has afterwards. Whereas those of us who have known for a long time about how the bitcoin cycle is then it will be highly anticipated because there is always a bigger event when prices rise after a few months of halving even though there is no guarantee that many are optimistic about this saying.
Yes, actually it doesn't matter if they buy bitcoin because of FOMO at the current price because they can still look forward to an increase next year, as long as they don't FOMO on shitcoin then it will be more dangerous, or FOMO when the price is at the peak of ATH then they have to wait a long time to sell at that price.

There will never be any guarantees about the purchases you make.
But about the Halving that will happen, it's not just a FOMO that looks like it will hurt a lot of people in the end, but it will be a moment that many look forward to because history says the Halving is a foothold for Bitcoin to reach a new ATH.
 
Will the Halving be beneficial?
This depends on how you manage your own assets.
Halving will give different results to different hands.

If you buy well before the halving and hold when the halving happens or after the ATH is reached, it will give you a lot of profit.

New investors will not know what the meaning behind the Halving is, but old investors, they already understand what will happen and what they should do.

Mining is quite profitable.
if you have the following:

1) cheap power
2) good gear sellers
3) a repair guy
4) the ability to spend time monitoring it.

If you don’t have the four above mining sucks.

I will say this cheap power is a real issue for a smaller commercial guy like me.

I have a great price very competitive.  But for now I can do about 300-320kwatts that is just about 100 machines.  So far it has not become an issue but down the road I could be squeezed out.

Ie 100 machines earning 5 bucks a day profit   is 500 a day profit. Or 15,000 a month.
But 100 machines earning 2 bucks a day is 200 a day profit or 6,000 a month

at 6,000 a month it would not be worth doing



I have done okay since I started but I could see a squeeze out coming.

Probably because of its current high price. But in terms of dollar amount, Bitcoin is mich volatility than before. We are just looking on percentage that’s why it looks like less volatile but Bitcoin moving above 1K$ per day on the price is already more than enough before when the price is still below 10K.

The price also look more stable due to thicker liquidity on the order book that makes selling and buying less impact to the price but you will feel the volatility if you hold more than 1Bitcoin since you can gain or loss more than 1K per day which is huge amount.

It won't be possible for a mining newbie like me to get involved because mining competitive. Why didn't you say anything about the cost to buy the gear to get started in mining. Where's it going to play importance in your stats? Good gear sellers are important but the price you're paying to buy your equipment matters. Are you renting your mining gear?

You don't call that panic selling but it is called take-profit because panic selling is when the market is dropping and people think that it will drop more and they need to sell so that their investments don't lose value, but if Bitcoin reaches that height and people start selling, it will only be so that they can take as much profit as possible before the market starts declining which no one would want to see but once a very large percentage of holders start taking profit, the market will surely start declining due to that.

I believe even $90k wouldn't be a bad price for anyone to sell even if they have bought their assets at around $50k because it's not always important to get multiple folds of profit and you will have to settle for less sometimes so you don't start losing the profits that your assets have already gained.

Perhaps, that is how the volatility showed to us - the pump and dump comes in any time unknowingly. A reason why we should have to learn to be a holder and of course, learn how to control our emotions. Increasing our investment will also increase our profit but yes, that will depend on how we manage them because not all you invest more are earning a lot, some of them make big losses as well due to emotional dealings and become impatient.
In the end, those who were able to hold and sell their coins in perfect timing gained a lot.

So how about into those people who had invested when Bitcoins price dumped down on 15k and even believe that it would be hitting that 10k bottom? For sure everyone is really that in great fear on this time on which it would really be just that a normal reaction since we dont really like on losing money or having negatives with our investment and this is why people would really be that too mindful about those other factors on which it could really affect their overall profitability We do have our own fundamentals and analysis on which it could really be applied on the current positions that we are really that dealing with.
Yes 2x with your investment isnt something that you could see into those traditional investment that we do have today. So you cant stop or blame out people on what are the things that they would
gonna do on which they would really be just simply stick into those things that they are really that believing.

Bitcoin's price doesn't make investing possible for most ppl. Doubling investment isn't more probable for the ppl that did buy. You've told us your opinion on wild predictions but you didn't tell us why. You don't have to give your reasons sometimes we don't but if it's worth a discussion you should consider to tell us.

agreed, too much people are expecting massive flipping due to them wanting to become rich quick, but double the investment arguably is already good enough, so many people seemed to forget that in other investment only yield 5% annually which honestly is really small for cryptocurrency investors also the reason why they stick with cryptocurrency in the first place.
if someone wanted to find that 3x 4x or more investment then they will rarely find it but if they willing to get just 1.5x investment then move over to the other investment and expecting 1.5x investment then they are more likely to find some and get rather easy profit with it without the need to bet to reach that 400% increase which arguably are kinda rare to find, instead they might incur lose towards their unrealized profit if they are so hell bent on waiting for their favourite coin to reach that increase.
just stick with good coin wait until it reaches certain price point then move on to the other, remember the whales that pumps are always choosing new coin everytime.

I used to be a little bit pessimistic about the price but even I always believed Bitcoin would get to a new ATH after halving.
Now I'm beginning to really believe that Bitcoin might get to 100k in a year or two.

At the time of writing this post bitcoin price was 27k+ now the price of Bitcoin is 43k+. That's just $11k short of doubling your investment.

There was a time when I just wanted the Bitcoin price to skyrocket so I could make the most profit. While I still want that, now I'm more focused on being able to use Bitcoin anytime.
Tired of the normal traditional means of payment and Bitcoin is an alternative, but it's getting more and more difficult to do that.

There are many price levels that Bitcoin has penetrated this year and there are still many other price levels that Bitcoin must penetrate if its target is $100K. Because when you can see how much time Bitcoin has needed since this post was made, of course you can also see how much the price has differed since the beginning of the year until now so you can make your own calculations if there is another increase next year. However, for the $100K range, I think Bitcoin will need more than a year or two years because there are still quite a lot of levels that need to be passed.

Everyone's desires are different, because there are also people who love Bitcoin so much that they will always be reluctant to spend it on anything. Even though your wish is not bad to hope for, it is still not certain that everyone is happy to exchange the Bitcoins they have for other goods that may still be obtainable with fiat money or in some other way.

You should never be pessimistic about the price of Bitcoin, it is the only currency that we are always happy to invest in. It has always been the case that whenever a halving occurs, the price of Bitcoin makes a new all-time high.No one can say for sure about future predictions, but the guess is that Bitcoin will hit $70k by the end of next year. Someone who bought at $27k would still need to go up $11k to double, but those who bought between $15k and $16k are almost certainly close to tripling their capital. Whoever buys at a lower price, the more profit he gets.

Now, if someone enters here, Bitcoin will have to go close to $100k to double his capital. a good entry can give us a good profit.  Traditional payment methods are also not so tiresome in my opinion, as they are also undergoing great development, providing us with a lot of convenience in making payments. I am quite satisfied with my traditional payment methods and have never had any problems with them.

In 2021, many people have not yet overcome the effects of the Corona pandemic, then again the war between Ukraine and Russia has destabilized the economy of the whole world. And it would be foolish to think positively of anything in this situation. But the cryptocurrency market in general seems a bit out of the ordinary. We have seen the corona pandemic where every financial institution collapsed but also during that time crypto rise exceptionally. Compared to that, the situation in the world is quite positive now. Moreover, Bitcoin ETF is on the verge of approval. So naturally we can now expect good returns on investing in crypto.

Bitcoins have done quite impressive from past few years. We have seen Bitcoins rising from nothing to 70k usd asset. Hence it’s possible to double the investment if you invest in Bitcoins. I myself bought Bitcoins when it was around 500$, but unfortunately I didn’t held it for long term, hence I didn’t made good profits at that time, but since then I have seen the potential of the coins. Hence it’s definitely possible if you show trust on the coin to double your investment.

I'll get worried each time I'm reading ppl saying it's possible to double the investment if you're investing in bitcoin. We know it's possible to double but it's a risk for ppl who can't maintain accumulating losses. What happens if they're in need for selling early like you did when you paid $500. You missed golden ops to take mega bucks because you didn't hodl others will be in the same position if they buy now.

These things you mentioned, I can also believe and hold true. And, to be honest, the assumptions you make are also somewhat realistic. It seems to be close to the truth. There are so many of our crypto communities right now who have high expectations in this matter that Bitcoin will actually reach 100k$.

That's why if the only thing an investor is chasing here is to experience income from Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, he will really experience it if their goal price target is only around x2 or x3. It's really possible.

Nominally you can double your holding, you shouldnt be surprised you should expect this just by referencing inflation in your country.  BTC only has to hold its ground to appear to gain.     Value wise its harder to say as multiple assets can gain value over time, I wouldnt ever say hold BTC and exclude all others mostly I think owning a house not paying rent is one of the most sensible things.   Like BTC you dont want to overpay for a house, you shouldnt buy into the BTC hype and overpay for it either just go slow and steady and sure double is quite fair imo.
  In terms of 'mistakes' I will admit to selling BTC around 100 to 200, lets pretend it was nicely high at 200 but all the same I needed the money to pay off some of the cost to mining and acquiring the BTC in the first place.   I wouldnt advise anyone to overly lean into the gains of BTC more then is safe for them, everyone needs to meet some expenses so you should just carry on as usual dont hitch all your hopes on BTC gaining.  BTC is a wild volatile market that wont follow the timetable you had hoped for,  just keep some of the spare value you have in BTC and dont back off when it looks grim as thats the best value time most likely.

There are even rumors about these price speculations in terms of ranges;

Crypto execs say the bull run is underway and could lead to $100,000 bitcoin in 2024
Bitcoin May Reach $300K by 2028 Halving, Says $1.6B Asset Manager
Bitcoin to Reach $300,000 to $500,000 in Massive Price Eruption, According to Macro Guru Dan Tapiero

Source (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/04/bitcoin-price-at-100000-in-2024-crypto-execs-say-bull-run-has-begun.html)
Source (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2023/07/27/bitcoin-may-reach-300k-by-2028-halving-says-16b-asset-manager/)
Source (https://dailyhodl.com/2023/04/13/bitcoin-to-reach-300000-to-500000-in-massive-price-eruption-according-to-macro-guru-dan-tapiero-heres-why/)

Lots of price projections had already been thrown out. So it wont really be shocking that $100k price is really just that too small on this upcoming bull run.
Come to think on how many folds that we had been able to reach out from previous bull run to the present.
Cant really deny though about on the probabilities or opportunities about Bitcoin or crypto investment on which it is really that giving way more than
that we could earn on traditional investments which there's no doubt to that but in speaking about security and assurance or risks then it does really have much higher.
So it would be your choice whether you would be proceeding or not.

very true, and I really agree with what you said. Bitcoin has indeed provided a surprise by increasing quite extraordinaryly, and this is of course very profitable for those who continue to hold bitcoin as an investment. When the price has increased, what we do is let go and wait for a correction to occur to immediately buy and hold it again until we are sure we have made a profit.Maybe many people have the same experience as you when they have Bitcoin but are impatient and don't sell it at the right time, so they don't get maximum results, but this experience can certainly create motivation again, so they want to be patient in holding Bitcoin when they have it.