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As you've read the thread title, I'll continue the explanation here, as it cannot accommodate additional text. I've come across numerous topics and posts where gamblers express disbelief in the idea of consistently making profit through gambling. It makes me question whether these individuals are truly involved in gambling or if they're posting without the real experiences and knowledge. Personally, I firmly believe that there are people who have achieved real success in gambling. What perplexes me is why many discourage gambling as a means of making money. Instead of outright saying no, they could guide gamblers with the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase the chances of winning.

If you're someone who doesn't believe anyone can be profitable in gambling, you might as well consider yourself not welcome in this thread. I'm looking for people who maintain optimism about their chances in gambling so they can share valuable insights.

Now, let's hear your opinion. In 3...2...1... go!

I believe I can post here because I'm still playing I'm still optimistic and I'm still hoping to win a huge jackpot whether on online casinos or the lottery, I just do not want a very high expectation that I guarantee myself of earning, I have to be realistic on what gambling is and what its not.
I experienced winning a huge amount of money a few times but having won huge money doesn't guarantee that money will keep flowing you have to be realistic by allocating and managing your bankroll and changing your method from time to time.

Some gamblers go to the platform with very high expectations using old methods and not managing their bankroll, gambling is a form of entertainment yes you can make money but when an opportunity opens up to them but not have high expectations, it goes down to expectation.

Your suggestion is that people can go underwater for 30 minutes straight with no equipment, yes it's possible and done by one or two individuals it doesn't mean it's an ideal situation for everyone that rule is what applies here too. You can make money in gambling which is true but making money from gambling consistently isn't possible or least from my personal experience.

I won't suggest anyone to to start gambling if they are looking for a way to make money.

That's just your opinion about gambling it's not the truth. Experience will make you form your own opinion and it seems that your opinion based on your experience is that there's chance that you can profit from gambling or even make it as a means to make serious and steady money but experience also tells other people that it's also the opposite, that you can't do it because the odds and chances in the games are all in the favor of the house and there's more losers statistics wise in gambling than winners so with a little common sense, it can be inferred that you can't make a consistent money with gambling. Is your term for profitable only fitting with the players or does it include the whole gambling industry? If it's the latter then yes, gambling is a the most profitable industry out there because of how much money there is that many people lose in slots, roulettes, card games and more but if it's players I don't think so.

Op it's not as if people don't record successes in gambling, it's just that the percentage of people that makes it through gambling is very minimal and no matter how devoted or committed one becomes in gambling it can't guarantee that you will actually be successful. Even if you play same game as those who win constantly do but it doesn't mean you will win as well.

In life, what works for others may not necessarily work for you and no matter how successful someone becomes in gambling it is still accompanied with luck and in this life people needs to stick to what works for them and not to copy what others are doing.

Gambling isn't that bad as some people paints it to be it's just the nature at which some person takes it that makes it appear like a bad habit. But however, gambling shouldn't be used as a skill or a career as even if you're recording success in it you still need to be doing other works that will fetch you income then you can continue your gambling but for someone who isn't that lucky in winning, it is advisable for such person to play with caution.

Optimism is the only thing that keeps me getting back in gambling after trying many times to stop once and for all yet I lose it very fast also because of losing sessions in a consecutive way,that is devastating and there is not much to be optimistic about and that is why most people will tell that you cannot make consistent money with gambling.

The statistics are in their favor and I also have talked several times about what you describe here but the problem is that the majority of people who gamble would not take them into much consideration at all and that is why we have a huge amount of losers and very few winners in gambling.

I start to doubt if you are gambling. I have been gambling since February 2014 and I know a lot about gambling when it comes to profit and loss. It is good to let people know the bad side. Nobody is discouraging gambling, but newbies should know that gambling is not a way of earning income, this is where the addiction starts. As for most people, the success in gambling is not actually the money you make from it, it is what you achieved from it and a way you will be able to avoid losses with the money you can not afford to lose by not using such money to gamble.

First, when you want to get a clear picture of this whole topic of whether or not gambling can be taken as a profit-making formula,  you need to first clear up some misconceptions or opinions of yourself and put yourself in the shoes of others,  because you may be lucky to win one or two games,  but that doesn't mean the next man is that lucky to have the same result,  that aside.

Secondly, you need to make a difference between what profits making and consistency in making such profits vs what jackpot means.

Yes is possible to win millions of dollars from a $1 stake game and become a jackpot winner of all time.

But there is no way that you can repeat the same formula consistently and still record that winning which is what consistent profits are all about,  your ability to make profits all the time,  and for sure if you are an active gambler as you proclaimed then you already know from your personal experience how risky it is to take gambling as a mean to make consistent profits.

Most of the user giving advice like don’t gamble or those who actually didn’t play because they are using  the common knowledge on gambling that you can read on articles about the danger on gambling.

I’m a gambler and I know the danger of it but I never discouraged anyone to play because it’s their choice to make it when they try it.

About teaching others, the point is there’s no fixed working strategy on gambling that’s why it’s very hard to teach someone.  :D



You should make this a self-moderated thread if you want a clean discussion without sig spam.  ;)

I would like to point out that some could be profitable in gambling out of a hundred it’s possible that only one could become profitable if they engage in gambling which means it’s not idea for everyone to engage in (if their main aim is to just go their and make their passive income from it and leave off of gambling).

Okay just think about it, if hey was a perfect strategy out there do you think anyone would still be losing? Or do you think anyone would want to log into their account and start to lose money when they’re are aware that a certain strategy could help them avoid losing a single dime? I agree that they are strategy to help minimize losses but that does not still guarantee success in gambling.

Have you make money consistently through gambling in the first place? you can post the proof here.

Stay discipline make you able to control your emotion, not resulting to increase of winning.
Every gamblers need to gamble what you can afford to lose in order to not going rekt.

Enhance skills, I doubt it. Play a game frequently make you familiar and experienced to play it, not increase the chance to win.

I, one of people who doesn't believe it, gambling can be temporary profitable, profitable is where you've sum up all of your profit in gambling - money you've gamble from the first time until now.

The point about the feeling that gambling is not profitable is the experience and yes truly much more people have not profited in gambling as much as those few who boost to have profited and even those few numbers of people still encounter loses which informs the believe in the pessimism of the success rate of gambling. The point, there are more losers in gambling than those who profit and that becomes the general acclaimed opinion about gambling, that is not to say there are those who don't profit.

For you to profit in gambling especially in soccer, you have to implore a very unique working technique and for those who are winning, they bet very few games and odds. There is difference between someone betting on 20 games and he who bet just 3-5 games from that 20 games. The chances to win or lose are not the same.

I think gambling as a entertainment medium. Something which is fun and can relieve us of our stress. But yes, it's a means of making money.


First of all, if you are good at something, never give it for free. This can be true for professional gamblers too. They would give tell you what to do, what not to, might give some advices or guides to follow but they would never give you the actual secret to their successful gambling. Honestly, I think there is no secret formulas that will make you a successful gambler. It the skills, experience and sheer will power that makes a gambler successful.


I don't know if I can be the that group of people. But I have seen many became successful by only gambling. The success rate might be low or rare, but yes, some does goes all the ways up.

Op it seems you are the one misunderstanding the entire argument about profit making in gambling.

Yes! People can make profit in gambling if they are lucky. What people like myself is debating against in such arguments is when the word consistent is attached to the  idea of  profit making in gambling. Except the gambler is a cheater or has collaboration with the casino that he should be winning consistently making profits each time he comes around to gamble.

There's nothing like consistent profit making but there's profit making but not consistent... Like how do I have to explain this again.
Of course there are people that have made success in gambling but it wasn't out of a consistent profit making, it could be through a one time lucky big win that became a life changer for them.

The strategies of staying discipline etc etc only help in preventing the gambler from addiction, excessive losses and not that it's an assurance for profit making. You can be disciplined in all ramifications of a healthy gambling lifestyle buy yet haven't made a single win in all your time of gambling. Haven't you heard of stories of gamblers saying they have never experienced a winning before be it a small or big sum, since they started gambling.

I don't believe anyone can make consistent profit in gambling. The profit is possible but never consistent.

It would be advised we all lower our expectations on gambling and accept whatever fortune brings on our path as we gamble.

I have taken up this gambling as a hobby, but even taking it up as a hobby, I have created a means of making money here. I haven't gambled for a long time but the few times I gambled I won a bet. I have bet on Cricket World Cup 2023 matches where I have never lost. However, I am sharing some strategies that I have used and won. Firstly I bet against a strong team which can be guaranteed. I didn't bet on every match, I just bet on the team to win. I didn't participate in the bet from the start of the game, I participated in the bet in the middle of the game. And especially I participate in bets with funds like 1 mBTC, I never participate in bets with more dollars. This is my strategy but I take part in betting with a healthy mind and keep myself safe. My request to all please never participate in betting while drunk.

Every beginner who thinks that gambling is done to earn income, I think they have misunderstood gambling, because it is very difficult to be able to win at gambling, you need luck to be able to make a profit in the gambling that you do, in gambling we must be able to control ourselves so that we don't experience addicted to gambling, because if you are addicted, of course this will have a bad impact on us, both financially and in our lives.

not sure if I am a seasoned gambler or just writing, but in my post history it might answer the question. ::)

i always say it is impossible to earn a steady income from gambling but that does not cover the whole thing but if we talk in detail we always remember the house edge always wins in the long run and this applies to luck based games so i would say that i am skeptical about daily income from luck based games.

and to find income from sports betting, maybe 50% can generate daily income and 50% cannot generate income because even though it can be predicted, believe me, surprises can always happen in sports betting, even worse, a big team or a popular team can be beaten by a small team.

and then lately I often talk about the game of poker and all gamblers definitely know how this game of poker is when you have the skills to play tricks or handle your cards correctly you can make a daily income from playing poker, there are even professional poker gamblers who can be rich as a result of his poker playing skills.
just imagine you enter a casino and play poker with 8 players, but if you have the most skill, you will definitely be able to get a steady income from playing poker because this game depends on your skill in processing the cards in your hand.

the reason I dont recommend to anyone about gambling that generates income is not because I am inexperienced but remember today gamblers are just too ambitious with "income" without knowing which games can get a steady income so the increase in addiction is greatly increased and they usually expect income from gambling games luck based like slot.

My opinion is that you are particularly not correct but not entirely wrong.

If it's as easy as you narrated it, then those who have been battling to earn consistently without giving up on gambling for over a decade would have had good success by now. Gambling is not as you think, it's not such that can be fixed in a way or that a piece of specific advice can take care of the situation of everyone. There are people who are suffering from gambling and its addiction due to your advice and belief, they would have thought there must be a secret of gambling. They would now believe this as an avenue to make consistent money if they play continuously without a stop and also have the belief if they learn more about it until they achieve their goal.

But in reality, they are merely wasting money and getting more addicted to it. While some will make consistent money simply because they are good in their game or they are merely lucky. The kind of games we play matters to the consistent earnings too, but still, only a very few would be able to make money consistently from gambling, and no matter how others try, they will not be able to achieve that status. This should be obvious all around you as the people you see that has gambled for years should have hinted you that gambling is not easy. People shouldn't also be desperate about making money in gambling, because if they do, it will never end well for them. That's how it has always been.

I don’t think there’s any disbelief on how gambling could turn out to be profitable for the gambler. Of course people can and has profited a lot from gambling. We’ve seen threads on here about how people have won life changing amounts from gambling and there are known people as well as high profile gamblers who are known to have made some good profits from gambling.

But it’s the constant drive to make profits from gambling that could, in the long run, push some weak minded players into playing into financial trouble and for some, into addiction.
It’s great to remain optimistic about making some good profits from gambling but it would be helpful to be realistic  about it all.

Whether you would be telling the truth of making money with gambling or simply that you are that sustainable then pretty sure that majority of people wont care. Why?
They wont really be able to benefit out something from that. If you do win up and profitable then whats then? In case you would really be tending to share up some free bet signals
then people would really be still nitpicking whether  they should follow or not.

The ones who are really indeed profitable are the ones that they will really be that not be bothering on being too noisy.

This is wrong from all indications. Gambling will never give you consistent money but it's possible that a single bets can change your life forever. Here is something, I know some guys that have made a fortune in their life from gambling, they have made the money they are going to make in the future in their early 30 and they have invested everything into profitable business and they are living good life and they are still betting till now but guess what, not all of them had cashout big like the  did in the beginning and that's to tell you that gambling is about luck and few skills require.


Since the beginning of this month, how many times have you gamble and how many have you lost? Let's start from there. Gambling isn't something you can control, you don't have power over it and hence the way it will brings money for you can not be predicted even if there is probability of making something. I still hold my stand, no way you can make a living from gambling from day to day but perhaps winning one game can change your life and that depend on how much you have been staking or wager in games.

These are experienced gamblers who have gone through the ups and downs of gambling, I still maintain that casinos are a game of chance and an entertainment platform, and players should focus more on being entertained if by chance they made money from their bets then take it as a rewarding experience but don't think that you found a formula to make money from gambling, what I don't want for all my friends who goes to gambling is making money their priorities and trying very hard to win and not giving up, you can manage your bankroll and check all the variations or methods on how to win but your chances are just the same who goes to gambling with pure entertainment on their mind.
Of course, I'm talking about luck based game, its different for sports betting.

The fact that some of us are gambling doesn't mean we shouldn't tell the truth. You may find it hard to believe but it's just a fraction of gamblers that can boast of some level of consistency in making profits and achieving success through gambling, the rest are running into losses and huge one for that matter. The ugly truth is that most persons acknowledge these losses but they're optimistic that one day they could be lucky and their big win might be able to cover for their losses.  

If you found the right formula, then for sure, you will be able to have greater chance on winning the bets.
For sure this idea of consistent winning is not applicable on slots, but only to those skill-based games like poker and sports betting.
Gambling is indeed does not base entirely on luck, the players' skill, mindset, and discipline also does.

It is true that gambling can make money consistently, but if you are the bookie.
Gambling can indeed make money, but there is no guarantee that it will become a consistent income.
OP needs to look at it realistically and not look at personal experience and maybe you can make money consistently from gambling, and that's really cool. But in reality, most gamblers give their money to the bookie or house as their income. ;D

First and foremost, we didn't discourage those people who wants to engage in gambling. It's just that, we have to elaborate things that can happen to them if they continue doing the wrong things and expecting more about it. This forum will serves as an eye opener and prevention to the community that yes, you can gather money when you gamble but this is depends on your personal experience, wealth status and such things which I think you need to respect and understand that people has a different kind of experiences when it comes to gambling. Sure, you can consider gambling as a means of making money but this is not the "Stable income" thing for a gambler.

I lost in gambling than making money. If the total profit and loss should be calculated, I lost more. And it is not just that I lost more, I lose far more. You are not wrong, because wẹ are gambling or because we lose money, that does not means we should be lying to newbie gamblers for them to lose more before they realize. We do not say they should not gamble, but they should not gamble with the amount of money that they can not afford to lose and they should not see gambling in a way that making money is guaranteed, it is just a force sense of reasoning which they will start to realize after severe losses.

The problem, it's not these.

The problem, is most of us cannot handle the psychology. Especially, while you are on lose section people can get triggered and betting crazy while we usually have a target %/days.

Trust me, it's happening all the time. No matter how good is your strats, we are getting trigered due the lost.

Maybe they are caught up with ideas that the house always win so they come up with conclusion that majority will encounter a lose base on stats they get. But actually if we think about that this bring us negative energy which can cause a bad luck that's why for me sometimes its really bad to bring that vibes and think automatically we would lose so we just have fun with the game.

Sometimes playing is really profitable since there are times we win. But we should not calculate base on past stats since we provably know the answer if we count all the losses we get. And for me its not good to count the past lose since what's important is the new sessions we play and current result we get.

Only a few gamblers really make money on a consistent basis, the fact is gambling platform is not a place to make a consistent profit, you can win and make money but if you sum it all you still have negatives coming from your past and previous losses, you will be disappointed, we have to be factual and realistic even if I want to give them tips on how to gamble properly and manage their bankroll and have a chance to win, they still have to enjoy their games you're giving yourself and other false hope that you can make consistent money in gambling when its not the reality.
Our priority when playing should be on enjoyment of the game so we will not get frustrated in case we suffer continuous losses.

However, that doesn't mean we cannot improve ourselves. Making mistakes is inevitable, but it's crucial that we learn from them. If we persist in repeating the same errors, it becomes evident that gambling may not be suitable for us, potentially leading to detrimental consequences in our lives. The pursuit of profit in gambling leaves no space for emotionally weak gamblers; it is reserved for individuals with the skills to excel and the discipline to prevent emotional control over their decisions.

If you often gamble, maybe you know how gambling systems work, just look at how they can read user behavior, usually people who are greedy are sometimes given wins, but it's their greedy behavior that makes them keep playing to get more wins and in the end lose, that's why We can't just talk about making money at the casino from one side because there is another side that we have to explain to anyone.

I know there may be some people who can play gambling consistently and even know how they can make money, but believe me, they have also experienced big losses and that is what we keep reminding beginners that gambling should not be taken too seriously, especially if you make it a source of regular income. There are risks in gambling that we have to explain, just enjoy the game when you win, withdraw it and cash it in, but if you lose, just assume we are playing at an entertainment venue and we pay for the entertainment. so there is no time to chase and recover losses that can lead to gambling addiction.  ;D

I believe that gambling can be profitable, there's no doubt about that, inasmuch as gamblers put money into it, surely some will gain. But saying that gambling can be relied on as a means of income is where I don't agree, because it is based on luck to win. I believe that anybody that depends on luck to survive is headed towards poverty, because luck in itself is not something that anybody that has responsibilities should rely on. Again if you do a study of gamblers who win, compered to those who lose, you'll find out that the losers are far more greater than the winners, so with this facts, gambling can not be seeing as a reliable source of income.

It's true that gamblers can make money from bets and games, but it'll be a mistake to rely on the winnings to make ends meet, because loses are greater than winnings in the long run.

If you believe that gambling is solely based on luck, you have no reason to believe that one could consistently profit from it. Many people think that winning in gambling is purely a matter of luck. However, this is not the correct perspective for those who take gambling seriously. If we approach gambling with this mindset, it should come as no surprise if we end up losing more money than we win, as the advantage is not in our favor.

There are various forms of gambling, and when it comes to skill-based types, we have poker, blackjack, and sports betting, which is perhaps the most popular now. I believe we are familiar with individuals who have excelled in these areas.

I don't know whether they are gamblers or not, but I can't really confirm it, but looking at the people here in the gambling section, I conclude that 80% of them must have gambled and have experience in gambling.
It just that belief in opportunities and beliefs about income from gambling may be different for each person and for example, I believe in opportunities to win but will never believe in steady income from gambling.
I will always be skeptical of those who claim to be able to pursue or earn consistent income from gambling.
If there were people who could make consistent profits then they would be able to bet big money and become rich and I sure they would not be here because they have made all their wealth from gambling.

I believe in profits or opportunities to win from gambling but this is not about consistent income.
If we talk about making profit then just winning is already profit because only with bet that is smaller than the winnings, but that cannot be called consistent profit because after getting one win it is not certain that the gambler will be able to win again same time.
The conclusion is that profits, opportunities and wins are always there, but not necessarily so that you can enrich yourself.

Most gamblers just want to have fun; winning is just a bonus for having fun. But if this is not the priority in gambling, for example, and he thinks that it is a way to make money, even if it is not really, this kind of gambler is not unlikely to become addicted to it.

But, as you said, there must be discipline or self-control in order to be a responsible gambler. And having a character like this can really help.

I think youre not welcome here bro. Same as me haha but I agree with you. The odds in gambling are designed to favor the house, and many people experience significant losses. We shouldnt carelessly encourage enyone to try gambling just to earn stable income. It is possible yes to earn a lot of money in gambling but it is not for everyone and no one should try it with the money that they cannot afford to lose.

All people are not on the same page, not everyone can win consistently. There are a few people who can be profitable in gambling; however, most people have a bad experience like having more losses or having debts that they can no longer afford to pay. Posts you have seen giving advice and saying no to gambling, especially to newbies, probably have that kind of experience. The kind of gamblers who can't give the right strategies on how to stay disciplined, enhance their skills, minimize the risk of bankruptcy, and increase their chances of winning. The reason I can see behind that is because all these skills are being built by an individual experience, the more you gamble, the more you are capable of creating your own strategy to win. But we all know, and we must always remember that a strategy built from your own experience does not always accurately be effective for other people.

It favors the house, but that doesn't mean they'll win all the time. Even in sports betting, there's a house edge, but it's still up to you to mitigate that edge. When you choose odds like 1.99 and below, there's already a house edge, as your 100 will only yield a win of 99.

Sports betting is distinct because it involves real players in actual play; it doesn't rely on an algorithm like a game designed and created by a casino. Therefore, when you have skills, you should avoid games that are solely reliant on luck.

People who are interested in gambling and have gained a great deal of expertise and information about the game are the ones who express disbelief in the idea of generating consistent profit from gambling. As a result, they don't think it's possible to make money from gambling consistently. Although some people make money from gambling, I don't believe that anyone makes money from it consistently. Gambling is a game of probability and luck, and even if players take into account every possible circumstance to improve their odds of winning, they can never be guaranteed a 100% win rate.


Naturally, a lot of people profit from gambling, and nobody is stopping anyone from doing so. However, you must realise that frequent gambling will only turn you into an addict, and gambling addiction is what we are all battling since it has led to the downfall of countless gamblers who are still attempting to overcome it.

It isn't bad to be optimistic to make a profit in gambling. I have a friend who is very lucky in gambling and is making it as his source of income while we were still college students back then. It was very helpful for him because he can survive with his daily winnings. He was able to buy his necessities and his wants without having to rely much on his allowance, which made me think that if you are just really knowledgeable, skilled, and lucky enough, you will really make a profit in gambling. Of course, resources play a role too. So maybe it was his initial deposit that paved way to consistent profit.

While I can attest it can indeed work for some, it doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for everyone. Take it with a grain of salt that not everyone can be your forte. Some might make money and even be successful in gambling, while some won't. And that is the reality we can't really control. People have different experiences, financial status, strategies, skills, knowledge, and luck. So it will really vary depending on your approach. If someone badly wants to continuously make money from gambling, of course it will not be easy. It will take time and experience as well as guidance from other gamblers.

Sports betting requires skills as well as luck, to be honest, you can make shit tons of money only if the underdog beat a champion side or what you call the odds. I mean you need to bet on a team with an odd of 5.69 playing against a team with an odd of 1.21 in a sport it won't happen every day and when that happens you need to bet on that underdog which all comes to the point of luck.

The disbelief is because many of them have tried to have the believe that they can consistently win when they gamble, so that believe motivates them to keep trying to gamble, and they keep loosing because of no strategy, no skills. You cannot have just the believe that you will consistently win from gambling, and then do not make any effort to try to develop a strategy and skill for it.

You can consistently win from gambling if just as there is the believe, there is an equal energy to match up to what is required for it, which is a good strategy and improved skills.

OP, you must force people to believe that they can use gambling to be successful because it is very rare to see a successful gambler. Recently I have a colleague at work who won $10000 in sportbets and he is keeping it as a secrete because he doesn't want any one to ask him for funds. Only this has convinced me that one can win big with gambling, but this doesn't mean that they have become successful in life.

The reason why I said that they are not successful is because, they might end up using the money to gamble again and wouldn't invest to in order to make them use the money wisely. They will believe that they still still more funds to win and they will be carried away with their greed. It is very hard to see a successful gambler because gambling is based more of luck that skills.

There are things you still need to understand about gambling.. being optimistic is not on the side of gambling the main thing is accept reality about gambling. Don't quote me wrong neither I am my quoting you badly rather you are misunderstanding something here, if will asked do you know that this consistent gambling is what actually gives births to addictive gambling?
Yes this is true, as a gambler whenever you always optimistic about the positive outcome you would be tempted to regularly gamble because of trying to break the house of either a higher out come causing to lose hence you don't have any options than to go borrow to gamble. Everyone has a general overview of how they understood gambling rather making someone to have this belief they would make it from gambling or as they constantly gamble they would win, although this depends on personal choice and hunger to make it out through gambling.

It's not that there aren't any people who became successful at gambling, it's just that the chances are abysmally low if you consider the huge amount of gamblers out there that there's no point in trying to chase it especially if you consider how the only chance you got being increased is the amount of money you have. The richer you are, the higher the chances (or tries really) that you have to make it big with gambling and at that point, why even bother gambling since you're already rich?

And I guess for tips, it's really just bankroll management. You can't exactly sway the odds in gambling casinos, so it's just how you try to spend money while earning. In sports, it can be a lot easier though since it's based on games outside of luck. It mostly comes down to knowing and reading the game itself. I'd 100% recommend sports on people who budget money, and just pure luck type of games if you can and have the budget for it.

First of all, gambling is based on luck and you can't constantly be lucky. It's based on luck because long-term, with traditional gambling, you are going to lose, you only profit when you win jackpot and then isolate yourself from gambling, so, you need luck! House Edge and RTP give casino an advantage over time, just pure mathematics, numbers, you can't enhance your skill in any way to beat slot machine. I just wonder, how are you going to beat it? What kind of skill will help you to get the desired result 777? None.

Just because you wear a signature of casino, that doesn't mean you have to play devil's advocate. No, I don't say casinos are evil or something like that, I am just saying that gamble for fun, that's all. Don't think that you don't have to work and can make a successful career in gambling, no, it's not engineering or sport. If people were to constantly make money from gambling, casinos wouldn't exist.

Are these the guarantees gamblers can make consistent profit gambling? To be disciplined minimizes the risk of bankruptcy, because the gambler isn't going to play more than he can afford to lose. But to be responsible, plus skilled don't change the fact this is a game of luck, with an enhancer against the gambler, that is the house edge, which prevents the player from overcoming the casino on long term. This is a simple math concept which do really forbids gamblers from winning consistently. You can't deny or go against facts. If it worked like you said, there would be many more winners here sharing their personal experiences.

What can happen is a gambler to be very lucky to hit a huge prize at once, so he will be in profit for the rest of his life, if he manages the earned sum wisely and efficiently. In every cases, it has nothing to do with consistent winnings along several gambling sessions. It's an event once in a million, let's say.

Yeah it's because they don't have skill.

There's a big difference between a poor person receive $1 Million at once without any effort and a poor person receive $10,000 every month with high effort. The first poor person isn't have an ability to manage his money, so he will use that money for anything that he likes. While the second poor person can change his life because he know it's hard to make money and careful to use his money.

What do you mean by "consistently making profit"? You have to be more specific if that means winning every bet or staying in profit every week or every month.

Yes there are some but at what percentage of the total gambling population? There's nothing wrong with being optimistic but you cannot really make an argument for the extreme minority. The chances of losing in the long run is high so it would be more practical to just say that upfront so the new gamblers know what they are getting into. If they are still interested after that then they can be guided with the basics.

If anyone wants to profit on gambling then he/she should keep away on slot games since this game is purely based on luck especially those high volatility slot game like Hacksaw. I lose a lot of money on slot even though I rarely play it but sometimes I won big too that makes me just breakeven or in minor loss. Skills on gambling is only applicable some games like sportsbet, poker and blackjack while the rest of the gambling games is based on luck which is almost impossible to become successful in profit in the long run.

I really like the optimistic part because that's what I always do before I gamble to maintain my cool headed mind. Gambling is not a money maker but an entertainment maker. it's really possible to make money here but there's always a chance to lose it all at some point because the RTP of the game will always kicks in.

This is a general forum that promotes freedom of speech and everyone is free to express himself based on personal experience or other learning experience. If you ask ten gamblers the same question I am sure that you might have five to six different answers. Hence your gambling experience is different from mine which is why you will not get the same response. Nobody is discouraging people from gambling but the truth should always be told. It is possible to have consistently wins for a long period but you and I know that sometimes you lose your bet. There are sometimes you become so unlucky that you might win nothing for months but we always hope that the future will be better that's why we keep gambling.

The qualities OP listed are very important in gambling. Every gambler needs to be disciplined by having a plan on how to manage time and money. Without learning and improving on betting skills gamblers might not be able to win bets. Having and strictly following a gambling budget will limit uncontrollable gambling thereby reducing the chances of bankruptcy.

Lol unfortunately the deed keeps happening. It takes someone who has a lot of control to stop gambling especially when you are now in this state of chasing back your losses. Truth to this is that to get to a jackpot is very difficult to get to. I know gamblers who have been saying they can only quit when they have recovered to a great extent their losses and so it keeps happening to them as if they are watching some movie. This has been the gambling story and the reason many believe it is just a lucky games.

If a person has a state of mind that he will chase and recover this loss, and then quit gambling, in that case, i am afraid that it is not possible at all because the gamblers will usually never recover their losses and this way, they may never be able to cut the gambling. Yes, they may win some games and but then they will lose more games and in a nutshell, they will always remain in a loss. The only exception to this is if someone gets a jackpot which may recover all their previous losses.

I think as the gamblers get experienced, they will understand that making consistent income is impossible in gambling and only the new gamblers may have this feeling which they will change over the passage of time.

With this topic, it is technically true. A gambler COULD be successful in gambling 'coz there are people already who did. But the idea of caution against such mindset in gambling is also valid. How many people do you think, have lost huge money in gambling? Also with stories that some gamblers needed to sell some of their properties just to pay their debt in gambling loss. The idea here is that, you could be successful in gambling but there's always a tendency for you to lose; which makes gambling, a "gamble" of your luck. You have to do things 'right' if you want to succeed in this industry. Things won't happen in an instance and easily. Problem is that people are assuming of an instant jackpot which makes them greedy and frustrated of their way in this industry.

There are indeed some people who have achieved real success from gambling, but it's still not ideal to advice people to solely depend on gambling alone for income. It is true that some gamblers do make consistent income from gambling, but then, this is just their luck, as we still have people also who play gambling consistently and still end up with nothing.

In the end, it all boils down to what works for one, some people have that luck of winning in gambling, while there are those who don't have such luck, if you are among those who have such luck, then utilize it, help as many as you can and be happy.
But if you are someone who does not have such luck, then it's better not to force, get something else doing as a main source of income and only play gambling when ever you have money you can afford to lose.

Based on fact, many people are not profitable since they have start gambling, it's just the truth, saying they don't belong here is like telling them to lie about their gambling experience, it's been over a year that I have been gambling with hard earned money but my experience is not that satisfying, I can boldly say that gambling isn't that profitable for me because I lose more money than I've win, I have my happy days in gambling but not enough to cover up all I've lost in the past, maybe this could change in the future I don't know, but now this is the reality that I am facing with gambling.

The reality you don't want to hear or listen to from gamblers like you, tell me, how is your gambling journey so far? If it's going smooth for you then you are born to be very lucky, just make sure you accept the fact that not everyone will be as lucky as you are, and don't be too proud of it either.

Thanks to my bankroll management skill, if not, maybe I would have gone broke, there is no gambling strategy that seem to work for me than me using what I can afford to lose, in fact I have turned my gambling activities into something I do for fun, I have channeled my energy into creativity and other things, I have a dream of building something that everyone in the world will use someday, that kinda dream, so I am a less active gambler who enjoy doing it for fun sake only, maybe if you have a better strategy you can share with us.

That's why, many of us here have varied experiences in gambling, maybe you think gambling can produce results consistently, of course that's your experience, but not for some others, gambling is a disaster for their lives consistently, gambling is good for you and bad for other people.

If everyone involved in gambling here could make good money, of course we would never see complaints about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0, because it is consistent.

The point is: I've been gambling for years, never making consistent profits, instead all I get is winning and losing, that's what I felt while I was doing gambling activities and it didn't just happen to me personally, my friends who have been gambling for years also had the same fate.

OP, I would love to see your screenshots of your 1,2,3 consecutive winnings in gambling for one day, in several types of bets that you place, if you can show maybe other people don't think about the opinion about gambling, unfortunately I have never found those who produce consistently.

As the point goes, no matter how experienced a gambler is, he cannot make a profit by gambling consistently. He applies all his experience to his gambling but if luck does not help him then he will be defeated by his luck.

Sometimes we witness some events that we would not have understood if it had not happened to us. If you are a gambler I don't think you can say you have ever won consistently. Maybe you have a record of multiple gains but those gains were never consistent. I still gamble quite cautiously and I tend to gamble more on the ones I have a higher chance of winning but it still happens that I have a lot of accidents that result in us losing a certain win. So it is difficult to accept that a gambler has consistently won money.

Do you know that there are a lot of gamblers that have win hug amount of money but they still end up losing more than what they won.
Just in a few days, a friend of mine won good amount of money from gamble but didn't use it to do anything, why because as you are a gambler, there are some kind of money that you will have but you will like or want to use it to gamble.
If you can use your salary to gamble, do you think that you will be say not to gamble with the same money you win? (No you are not).
A lot of gamblers are in such position that's why they find it difficult to withdraw the money they win from gamble and do something good for them self.
One can make better money from gambling but he might still finds it difficult to use it to do something for him or her self, it is not only the addicted gambler that are doing this but both the new gamblers too, imagine you are a new gambler won a million box of dollars just at your first stake or your first prediction, you will still try to win more because at that point in time, you will he thinking that you can win more money to the previous one.

i don't know if there are also gamblers who consistently make money but i think there are also gamblers who kept winning where about 70-80% of their bets have won. and it could mean that his loss can just be ignored and he makes money still.

they may not consistently win but they consistently make money there's the difference i guess that's what OP means.  meaning they could someday lose money but they always win it back and profit at the same time.

Maybe that could be because they haven't been shown any proof of it? I have seen so many gamblers here, and I mean like thousands of them, and I know some of them in real life too, so that means we are talking about SO MANY gamblers who just ended up losing their money and absolutely nobody that I know have made money on the long term. Do not get me wrong, I am not talking about not being in profit for a day or week or month or even a whole year, you could do that if you are lucky and be in profit for a very long time.

However, what we are talking about right now is the fact that you can't turn that into a job, like it's your only income, because I have never met a single person who did that, so if I am not proven with a single person that does that, why would I think that I would be the one who will be first? This means that it discourages me to think that you can turn this into your profession, and you should realize you will lose money just like everyone else did.

Making profits with gambling is definitely possible, however it is harder than imagined, so even if skill based games did not exist you could still obtain profits by sheer luck, like it is the case of those winning the lottery, however since they exist then people can improve their skills in those games and eventually make profits, but the amount of time needed to reach that level of skill is too long and even then there is no guarantee the methods you are reading will work, so you will need to go through a period of testing to see if what you have read does in fact produce profits, in my mind we are talking about at least a year dedicated to this, and not many people are willing to commit so much time to something they do not know if it will work at all.

Technically true but practically close to impossible that is what I am trying to say. Possibly it's my opinion that I will not pick a career that is purely based on luck and probability because it puts my future in danger.

People who lost their lives in gambling stories are literally higher than people who changed their lives from gambling winning which is a known fact but it doesn't mean we should avoid gambling completely, just accept what it could be and bet your money with the least expectations then only we can enjoy the happiness when we hit some rewards.

Gambling is a mugs game as they say, that we are all apart of xd

What other stupid statement is this, and how sure are you if it is true that this gambling can provide consistent profits?

In the gambling algorithm, it is clear that in the rules of the gambling game, gambling has been designed in such a way as to create a system or process that is used by the gambling provider to control the winning results of each player. And this is done with the aim that the gambling provider always ensures that he will always make a profit in carrying out his gambling business.

And if it is true that gambling can provide sustainable profits, then people will never regret it when they enter into gambling.

Winning in gambling is something that we cannot predict beforehand, so no matter how long we have played gambling, it is still not something that we can be sure of and guarantee that with good game technique tactics, we will You will always win every time you play.

Actually, it's not that we don't believe in winning or are not optimistic about our own gambling. This is just an anticipation for us so that we don't change our mindset from playing gambling as entertainment to becoming a job that can continuously make a lot of money. Because if our mindset is misinterpreted from the start, it is not impossible that this is the start of us becoming infected with addiction.

It all depends on your mindset actually, that doesn't mean you don't believe in consistent success, it's just that we shouldn't focus on this, our mindset must prioritize existing risks rather than consistent profits. Playing gambling games without high self-confidence is also not right, but having excessive self-confidence is also not good.

And what you can see from those posts that they're discouraging gambling and they tell people to gamble for fun at the same time are promoting casinos.  ;D

It is no doubt that someone can achieve success in gambling but these people are also right that not everyone can have it just how those successful lads took it.

But you're also right that instead of saying no, they can figure out how to manage themselves way better than the others that are irresponsible when they gamble.

Some people have been gambling to win jackpot for God knows when but they have not been able to win such. So to keep that on the probability list based on exception is not to be relied upon. Chasing of loses is the reason many people are still stocked in the feet of their gambling, the more people can realise that this is not gambling responsibly, the more relaxed and control they will have on their gambling.

I believe some people have achieved real success in gambling, but it seems they don't say it publicly and prefer to hide their success. Actually, this is what we have to imitate so that we don't give the impression of bragging that we have been successful from gambling so that we don't become too confident in gambling. Overconfidence can result in a loss of self-control, and if we lose, we cannot accept it and will try to recover from that defeat.

They don't guide people because they don't know how to control themselves. If they teach about gambling to people who do not have good self-control, they will see that person will run the risk of losing his money and also become addicted to gambling. Perhaps they don't want to see that happen, so they choose not to teach what they know to more people.

I’m always positive and more optimistic every time I gamble but most of the time the result is different and this is why I limit my exposure and limit my expectation as well, because your winning in gambling will always depend on your luck though manifesting to win might help but still its not a guarantee. We know the risk of this, and its good to have a positive attitude regardless of the result as you are more confident that you know what you are doing and you are still within the budget.

Yes it can, anyone can get a win in gambling because everyone has their own luck, but of course like you said it's not as easy as turning your palm, why? like I said and maybe some people who have common sense already know that gambling activities are always nothing more than activities about luck. That's why a lot of people suffer huge losses if they take gambling too often or too seriously, to be honest I don't care even if you gamble in skill-based gambling like sports even if you have good skills but sometimes it still comes down to luck as well.

There are some of them who prefer to gamble in a skill-based place, which is good because if you have a fairly advanced skill then indirectly it will be able to increase the percentage of your luck there, but yes, as I said above, don't put too much hope in winning because all of that will still depend on how lucky you are. If you basically have no skills at all then obviously even if you gamble there maybe the final result will be purely dependent on luck because you don't have any skills about the world of sports.

Basically I think more people choose to gamble in gambling places that are purely luck, that's because maybe they don't want to be complicated by having to learn some skills, and like you said maybe it will take a long time until you can be proficient and can get income or winnings from your gambling in a certain amount, so maybe that's their reason why not choose skill-based gambling, especially for people who don't have any skills at all.

Staking on the gambling table has its goal to multiplying of your fund so periodically, I don't see why anyone would get on the gambling field with all that resources invested and hope not to make profits even before the game is kickstarted.
I really haven't seen anyone saying that gambling is not profitable or can't offer riches rather I have heard of people who basically says that gambling should not be a dependent source of income else one runs the bankrupt.

To me, gambling has the potentials to give and take (winning or Lossing) but the loosing chances is much higher because your winning is undetermined and doesn't matter about how skillful you maybe you posses though skills could be essential but depends on the nature of gambling you are on to if maybe a skill-based or chance-based gambling.
Gambling is a field of competition that is required logical and funding measures which literally is not reliable to making wealth because you don't know the capacity of your openents.

I assume that this gambling is just about fun and the rest is about the possibility of winning and the certainty of losing. And how can I possibly say that this gambling can provide continuous profits, while I myself often lose in gambling.
Winning at gambling is not something we can guarantee. And even if I win, I consider it only as compensation for the losses I experienced previously.

And I can survive in gambling, not because this activity is profitable, but because this gambling activity is fun enough for us to enjoy. So in practice I always try to control myself so that gambling does not become an activity that results in significant losses.

However, if the OP states strongly that this gambling can provide consistent profits, then please prove it yourself and if it works then I will call you a gambling god.

Unless it is sports betting where one knowledge of the sports can play a significant factor in the result of the bet, I do not think that a person can continuously win on a gambling platform.  I have been engaging in gambling activity for years and I can say, it is hard for the the game I play to consistently earn a profit.  Even streamers I watch seldom bag huge amounts of profit.

With casino game result being random, and the factor that gambler tends to keep playing until their bankroll gets depleted, it is really hard for these kind of gambler to have a successful gambling career.  I think people who have a strong sense of self-discipline are the ones to walk away with winnings.

Besides winning in gambling is not affected by the belief of a person since each game machine has its own range of results that is not affected by the will of a person.



Funny how you ask people's opinions while not welcoming people who think or do not support your argument.

You say it like you’d recommend it to someone who is looking for a means of income, But that shouldn’t be. Gambling can be a good source of income but I think it’s too much risk. Because you’ll go and make money, and then stake it. What happens when you lose? The hard earned money/salary will get to the pockets of people who didn’t even work for it. Of course there are winning days, but I don’t see gambling to be one’s relied source.

OP, you would admit that the number of people who has in their total gambling history, made some good profits with gambling is really small compared to the number of people who in their gambling history haven’t had such luck.
There are people who has achieved “real success” in gambling. There’s no disputing that fact. It’s right when people dissuade others from the notion of gambling being a means of earning money cause it simply isn’t. If you want to make money, get a job or provide your services to others.

To be frank, I accept that one can have success in gambling but I don't accept that one can have success on a regular basis. The main reason for this is that gambling is literally based on luck. Of course, it is possible to classify gambling games and types within themselves and if this classification is made it is also possible to state that some types aren't entirely based on luck.

For example, a gambler may consistently earn profits by choosing sports betting but unless this is sustained it wouldn't be right to call this a success. Although sports betting is a type of gambling that requires knowledge and experience, I think that regular success will not be achieved because it is a type that is partially based on luck.

Since slots, plinko, dice rolling and similar gambling games are based entirely on luck it isn't possible to earn a regular income in such games and for this reason I don't think that any gambler can achieve regular success in such games.

In summary, although the luck factor varies depending on the type of gambling I don't think that a gambler will earn a regular income and therefore be successful in gambling since a little bit of luck is required in all kinds of gambling games.

To believe that you can consistently make money gambling is one of the worst thing you can do. We all know that casinos are designed to have a house edge. it is how they make their profit. This means, over the long run, the house is always more likely to win than the gambler. Sure, some guys do hit big wins or have lucky streaks, but this is more about chance than skill or strategy. Relying on gambling as a steady income source is risky 'cause, in the end, the odds are always against you. Thinking positive won't change the math behind the games.

Gambling depends a lot on luck but you don't always have to rely on your luck in gambling. Before relying on luck you need to take the right decision and you can take the right decision through your gambling skills. If you can apply the right skill in the right place then you have to rely on luck later on. The first step to relying on luck is to apply gambling skills. When it comes to gambling, if we sit down and rely on luck to make the wrong decision, that luck will never come our way because we made the wrong decision to begin with. If luck is not on your side maybe one in two gambles will go against you but without gambling skill most of your gambles will go against you so it is a good gambler's job to develop your gambling skills before relying on luck.

Orienting gamblers to the opportunity to have a sustainable income is important, but of course we aim for honesty so we can all understand that that opportunity is not for the crowd.
I can agree that skill is an indispensable part of this field, and almost anything requires good skill to be able to achieve victory. I have a lesson in life, "instead of getting stuck in every game in life, control it by letting go", which means being in control always gives you an advantage over tinkering with everything.

But I still want to express that I have no intention of becoming a professional player because this field is too stressful for me, and moreover, psychological control is not a strength that I can take advantage of in this field. So I can only consider them as means of entertainment.

Those who think like that must immediately change their mindset by realizing that they cannot make money consistently from gambling. They need to know that gambling is not a place to make money but only to get entertainment so they will not try to win every gambling game. They can only enjoy every moment of their gambling activities and cannot expect to win their gambling games. That is why they must be able to think clearly, not make gambling a permanent source of income, and prefer to look for other places to make money.

However, I haven't seen or heard anyone say that he or she have built a house or bought a house with gamble money, maybe as it is hard to win in gamble it is also hard to use gamble winnings to achieve what we want.
Even if we have make a plans to buy something or achieve something, as long as it is while we are gambling, it will be hard to stick to the plans at that time we win money from gamble.
Although, it is only hard for those that are addicted to gamble and the new gamblers but if in any case they are so disciplined, then it will not be a big deal for them to stick to they plans that they have.

I do think that we can be profitable in gambling over a long period of time. In case we want to make profit during every gambling session I don't think it's realistic. There are always winning and losing streaks and we can't force to change them. It's like in life, there will be good and there will be bad days. That is why when I notice I am having a bad day in gambling, I will just take a break for the night and try again the next day. Chasing losses is one of my earlier days mistakes that I am trying to avoid now. The best approach I have to longterm profitability is to try and limit losses as much as possible. Avoiding to go broke is very important, because only with capital we can recover our losses in the future again. Also, when I am running good and have a winning streak I try to increase my bets to get the most money out of it.

Maybe some people can really build a house or buy a house with gambling money but they don't tell it to many people and only those closest to them. But it is difficult to get big wins from gambling so many people cannot get it. They experience losses more often than wins so they cannot earn money from gambling.

If you make plans to buy something but use the money you earn from gambling, you should forget about it because you won't know when you will be able to make money from gambling. You should look for money from other places that have more opportunities to make money than from gambling.

Based on your experience as a gambler, do you find gambling profitable? What I mean is you're able to win more rather than losing your money? Being optimistic that you can indeed make money in gambling often leads to disappointment because everything didn't go according to planned.

It's because regardless of what skills you have, the strategy you use and the way you manage your bankroll, the fact still remain, that in gambling you need luck. It's the major factor to win (even in skill-based games). Therefore I don't believe in consistent winning or you can can make money through it. Unless, you became lucky to hit a jackpot like in lottery.

Many of us have started gambling when we are still a kid but as kid, we have a less understanding yet about how gambling works. It was only when we became an adult realize the truth about it. Of course it is very good, to let people know the bad side of it because what is often publicize is only its good side. It gives a wrong impression to the people.

Speaking of wrong impression, there are also people who only see its bad side, in which they can discourage people to get involved with it. I know this is crazy but I think that was also better. As they say, prevention is always better than cure. Among the 10 people who will try gambling, I think over 5 of them can get addicted to it.

As I said in the other thread, it can be done but it might take a lot of time and deeper pocket. If not, small bets are also good but the time it will consume will be longer.
It's possible because I have seen it but not on a daily basis because there will be times that the gambling site will take away the money.
Now, after a win, it will be to the gambler on how he will manage it. Either withdraw early or look for a game that doesn't rely on house edge. Sports betting for example and then there's live casinos. Crash is also not a house edge style and if you are not that greedy you can win on this game.
Casino games, all the time, or most of the time take back everything, and trust me I have seen it because of the number of bets that I made in small amounts. It's like you are just playing tag with the casino where your money goes back and forth.
Those who are good with sports though will probably have the best chance of making consistent money and I think there are members here who already made lots of profits from it.

OP do you really believe the success of a gambler depends on the optimistic attitude towards gambling, staying discipline and enhancing skill? OP I believe that if these were the case then we'd be recording more successes than losses in gambling but we all know that's not the case here. No one says gambling isn't a means of making money, but considering it a means of steady cash flow of as an additional stream of income is what we consider to be wrong... Gambling is just about skill mate, it's majorly about luck and chances, and we know that these things can't be a product of your gambling skills, what are your chances of winning and how lucky can you be, yes you can increase your chances of winning but what's the guarantee that you'll get lucky, or you don't also believe luck plays a vital role there?

No gambler gambles with the intentions of loosing, we are all optimistic about winning, and we gble with hopes for the best but it doesn't mean that our hopes would guarantee a win, losses would still come, you know what they say, too much expectations brings too much disappointment. If you go gambling with the expectations of just making profits and no losses and you eventually meet the opposite trust that you'll meet a load of disappointment. But if you have a win/win technique that we can use to avoid losses and always record more and steady wins, we'd be happy to hear it.

Gambling is a good way to spend leisure time but it is not good to overcome anything. Most gamblers do not believe that they can earn money consistently but they are in a different way in the case of responsible gamblers. They know all the strategies of gambling and their attitude is positive if they can become greedy or control themselves so these gamblers are gaining a lot of success. But not everyone's attitude is the same most gamblers become more addictive after greed when they lose control they cannot earn because they are at risk of losing money. Gambling addiction can have a profound impact on people which causes significant problems in various areas of their lives. Self control is good for gambling helps avoid harm.

First of all, I hope you understand that gambling isnt for everything and know how gambling works. Gambling as itself does not generate money out of nothing. When someone looses, other obtains a slightly bigger chance to earn. Of course casinos have their balances, but they arent infinite. In general, for casino to be able to pay you, someone must lose. And is what makes it not the best way to make money. Or I could say that to be able to make money in gambling, you must also lose money. And does not look like a work. The only thing we lose at work is time.

Don't ignore those people who earn the jackpot price on lottery since for sure those people can buy all things that they want for winning such huge amount of money. We see a lot of stories that lotto millionaires buy house and other expensive things. But for gambling on online casino games well maybe its hard to tell if there's really people making a fortune and buy house or other luxury things out of their gambling income. Maybe some didn't broadcast their winning but maybe there's only few of them doing this that's why it didn't get much noise.

I maybe agree that because of gambling we could not possibly buy things that we want but you also need to consider if the person is insane bettor since if this is really the real case then provably we can't really do that. Addicted person hard to control theirselves so expect a worst condition for them. And if we know that its reall bad to go thru this condition then we should set some plan and have good attitude so that we could follow all what we are planning to do.

wow , that is an amazing lesson in life , letting go is something hard to achieve but once you have this to be the lesson and to be a best on it then for sure you will never loss anything from bad experience anymore.
I believe that very few in which wanted to have that profession lol.

Imagine being a gambler is already a hard task then what more about professionalism in gambling?

OP if someone like you is living closer to my area I would have love to visit you and we will both visit some casinos together, asking gamblers how many wins they have got this month so far, the result will shock someone like you because it seems you strongly believe that one can make money consistently with gambling.

You claimed that some people may not be into gambling themselves yet they are talking nonsense about gambling, do you know how easy it is for everyone to become a gambler? This is the fastest thing to reason when you want to make money, most people are into gambling, even offf this forum.

I have gambled many times and today I still gamble, and I am telling you right now that they way you manage your bankroll is the only thing that makes you a better gambler, everything else is fake, luck isn't something that comes to you consistently, how do you think that you can keep winning consistently? With what method? How many old gamblers do you know that have shared their past years of gambling with you?

Some people will say they could earn money from gambling and others will also say that they lose --and all of these are possibly based on their experience. Because as I was into gambling, sports betting, and lottery tickets, I could say that there is a different experience between the two where you have a bigger chance to win in sports betting than lotteries. Now, if you were just playing sports betting you can simply say that you earn more but those gamblers played in pure luck base games, the majority will say that they lose more as well.

Maybe it's possible as luck might bring you those opportunities and with good understanding and capability to handle situation like this you may leave the house and withdraw all your money to enjoy and use it for such leisures that you plan to do if by chance happens to you. Though the chances are slim, we never know, right? Lottery winners are a good example and they just learn with great luck to make it happen and to achieve certain goals.

Yes but the chances are very small friends to be able to get that much luck, so I don't think it's too much to gamble, another thing like you said if you have gotten a little luck and won then it's better to go home immediately and enjoy the money from your luck, going home with a face full of smiles is better than you keep repeating the same mistakes like acting greedy and again going home in tears, situations like that are very boring, so you should have the opportunity at least once to be able to enjoy the results of your struggle when you are really lucky.

I think whatever kind of gambling you do whether it's skill-based or pure luck like slots or whatever it is like the lottery you say honestly just never take it too seriously to get the results that match what you want, because if the end result doesn't match it's the same as you create a chance of disappointment for yourself by putting high hopes, so look for sure - just sure in my opinion.

This is correct. You can possibly earn on gambling if you knew when to stop. There’s always a time which a gambler experience on his game but keeps playing to earn more and that is the moment he started to lose.

Some gamblers manage to earn profit but that doesn’t mean they will not lose it all if they will come back again. Knowing when to stop is the key to secure profit on gambling since no one can have consistent profit on games that has a house edge advantage.

I do not know why the gamblers still believe that they can get consistent income from gambling. Yes, those who are new or those who have never been involved in gambling, they may have this point of view but those who regularly gamble, they know how difficult it is to win consistently in gambling.

No matter how good you are in gambling, or how much experience you have, it is not possible to get a consistent income from gambling. Sometimes you may win more than expected while at times you lose more than you anticipated.

Gamblers need to re-evaluate their thought process if they think that they can earn a regular income from gambling. If they think it is possible, i would ask them to share examples of themselves or anyone who has been able to produce constant income from gambling.

Well, as the OP said, we can't stop them from believing that they could win or that a gambler can earn more if they keep on playing. Well, what the OP says is true; we can't stop them from believing what they want to believe and to do; in fact, it's their own life. We are just here to give advice or whatever. It is also true that many people here are being hyprocrite about gambling, things about limiting the gambling habit, or whatever for the sake of posting here, so yeah, we can't debunk what they want to believe.

Gambling is all about possibility—the possibility to have luck and win a big jackpot, or the possibility to be a loser in the end. It's all about possibility. If they want to risk that, or a gambler wants to risk that, then it's their own choice. We can't stop them; we are just here to give guidance if they need it, but of course the only ones who have the right to give advice are those who really have experience in gambling.

Gambling can give you money but it's not consistent, the reason many individual are discouraging people from gambling for money is because it makes you to depend on gambling and when you start doing that it will make you an easy target for addictions. We have many individual making a living off gambling but when you have other sources of income, gambling becomes a little bit easier and enjoyable because you don't put pressure on yourself to make profits all the time.

I'm not among those that believe gambling is totally bad, I do gamble sometimes but I make sure I'm not doing it only because I want to make profits. Some times I just gamble because I want to have fun and there's no other activities that can give me the type of feelings that gambling gives. Some individuals make it look like gambling has no positive side but that's not the truth, although while gambling we have to make sure we don't get addicted as that can be very harmful.

The consistent profit was not the possible one in gambling,because the gambler can't make profit after using the tactics for the gambling.The gambler who lay the random betting in the gambling sites had very low possibilities of continuous profit in the gambling.So the experienced gambler itself never consider the gambling as their full time job to make the continuous money from the gambling.The gambler who making the post related to gambling will have huge experienced in the gambling site.So with their own experience they ask to be safe to avoid of the risk.If you are not ready to hear the words of the experienced gamblers,you will suppose to loss some dollars at the initial stage of the gambling.But it can be avoided if you follow the experienced gambler words.

It depends on the gambler's mindset, whether they want money when gambling or are looking for fun and entertainment, personally I am also a gambler who always uses gambling as entertainment so in my opinion gambling is not always bad because for me they provide something positive, for example teaching us to gamble. be responsible and control emotions when gambling and other feelings.

But it all comes back to their own views, sometimes there are those who think gambling is bad because usually those who think it is a gambler who is addicted and often sees gambling as a place to find a source of income, so whatever he does is always bad in the eyes of other people, that's why It's important to protect ourselves from getting addicted.

Lottery winners generally spend their fortune on mansions, automobiles, and luxury items - a dream come true. However, what about the aftermath? Many lottery winners are financially troubled: Sudden fortune without financial literacy can quickly explode. True, large triumphs are less publicized, making them seem rarer in online casino. But doesn't silence protect? Gambling is addictive because the next big victory trumps reasonable decision-making. One's financial and mental health are at risk on this route.

Regarding crazy bettors, you make an important point. Gambling addiction is complicated and often psychological. The addiction to betting and inability to stop despite negative consequences can destroy life. This emphasizes responsible gambling and self-awareness. Gamblers must know their boundaries, odds, and addiction signs. It's about understanding gambling's effects and making informed decisions, not just winning or losing. We can appreciate gambling as fun rather than a negative force.

I will state that it may be only 2% of gambler who actually make money consistently from gambling. Even some punters may not be among this 2%. I say 2% because I may not the far away from the truth. I see making money from gambling as a very risky venture and you really want to be care about encouraging others to join you. Because they may become greedy and become loose it all chasing losing, get into depth because they feel they can handle it an many more.

This really depends on on the gamblers mindset. This is like a rich and poor gambler comparison. The rich one sees gambling as an entertainment while for the poor, it was different because in third world country like mine, majority of poor gamblers desperately want a winning streak because of something and that is "money" so they can bring food to their family. I know that some of you might not understand this but that is really what had happen even today.

The thing is, the people who consistently make money out of gambling do not make gambling their whole personality and life. The problem is that when it comes ot gambling, money shouldn't be the main purpose of your play. When you make everything revolve around you winning, earning money and prizes, you'd be utterly disappointed and this is where revenge gambling, and eventually gambling addiction will play its role. To consistently earn money in gambling you also have to have the discipline to know when to stop and when to keep going.

Most gamblers wouldn't know or understand this concept since they're blinded by the "easy money" premise that most casinos and gambling games promote. Rid yourself of that bias and you'd see that there's more to this.

Their purpose will determine what impact they deserve to experience, if indeed the goal is to make money then of course there will be many bad things that will happen to them, but if their goal is the same as you when gambling by just looking for fun then I think they will not experience significant things or downturns like that, and what happens instead you will get something positive or that means a good lesson from your gambling involvement, indirectly it can be used as a place for you to train yourself in terms of mental and responsibility like you experienced, that's another thing they will get besides fun.

In general, it is true that a person's perspective, especially the view of society, is usually quite negative on this gambling activity because the negative impact is more prominent than the positive impact. Yes sometimes there are also some very negative views of gamblers, that's because they always experience bad things in their gambling involvement and with that I am sure that they come with the wrong intentions and mindset. But in my opinion no matter what and in conclusion I think for the whole gambling is indeed an activity that is better avoided if you are not involved at all, although there are some positive things you can take in it but it is still quite difficult for us to prevent.

there are many opinions emerging on this topic, it's really interesting, for me gambling is a game that must be played with strategy and discipline because without these two the possibility of winning and still making a profit consistently will be very difficult.  Surely there are many gambling players out there who only gamble occasionally because they are not confident in their own abilities, believe it or not, when you lose gambling today you will not possibly lose tomorrow, you have to be confident in your own abilities, don't 't let it happen doubt makes you fail to achieve big wins when gambling.  Another important thing in gambling is to always play games that you really like, you can't gamble on games that you don't like just because you see there are players making big profits there, focus on your own development and also look for the best strategy in that game.

It's not even about being optimistic... BTW, is there anyone who stakes just to lose? Absolutely no one! Everyone's got that positive mindset towards the game and I think the main focus is winning at the end - you seee, if wishes were horses, beggers would ride

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believing that you can win in a game doesn't bring that into reality, it'll only create an interface for you to either increase your stakes with fake hopes, or increase your betting frequency. Don't ever take this as a motivation for any reason; the fact that peeps ain't able to quit gambling easily isn't precise, but is being used as a daily motivation for the non addicts... "I dunno if you could derive any sense in what I said"

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You sound very deceptive and misleading, besides not understanding simple math that drives the casinos to huge amounts of profits every year. I highly doubt you personally know any successful gamblers because it is such a hard skill to master. I don't see you sharing a single strategy, just living in dreamland. It is like the difference between being an amateur golfer and playing in the PGA tour - only the people near the top will ever be making enough to sustain a career, everyone else is fighting for scraps as they try to get to that top through experience and practice. People aren't sharing successful strategies, because if there is such a thing - like finding a niche in sports betting - then people will be milking it or trying to protect it from getting flooded to zero profitability. You also don't own the forum and get to tell anyone here what to do.

In gambling, only the casino owner can have the chance to win continuously but even they are driven to bankruptcy and lose in the game of gambling once there are several player hits huge win.  I highly agree with you that @OP's post sounds misleading since he himself does not share his own gambling statistics and did not even show us if he is in green.

Gambler usually have hopes that they win every session but sadly there is no consistent winnings in gambling and everyone who are playing in a casino can testify to that.  One's belief has nothing to do with the gambling result because it cannot alter the randomness of the result of gambling games.  Even sports betting that is highly dependent on the gambler skill can't assure anyone that gamblers can predict the match outcome correct.  Even the most skilled person in predicting sport betting losses.

Well spoken Oshosondy. It will be unwise to take gamble as a career or professional job that serves as a pure source of income. Gambling is meant to be an additional means of income. Such that you do not Soley depend on but rely on it for assistance in your financial life. There are days the plants go greener and some days plants wither. This is to show that even as much as a gambler have the opportunity to win a lot of times some days, he could experience a loss and perhaps during this time he was expecting the money for something or need it so urgently, but he got disappointed. However, newbies in gambling shouldn't be discouraged rather they should be encouraged to gamble responsibly. Even some gambling platforms do advice in most of their adverts. Honestly gambling has helped a lot of people to navigate from being a low-class individual to solid business owner. So, i don't see it stopping even in a thousand decades.

I think I somehow disagree with you.

With the nature of gambling that is involved, even if you apply some sort of technique/skill on the games, the chances of a person winning is still dependent on luck. The application of skill can barely help a person win a given round.

Also do note that if this were the case, then everyone would be rich. This is the reason on why majority of the people who gamble just lose their money at the end. Gambling relies on luck and luck cannot be controlled absolutely. You can at least twist it to a certain extent but the odds are still the main factor which determine whether a person would win or not.


Even if a person remains optimism, the bank account speaks for itself! Man this is reality- gambling is a dangerous venture and everyone would agree to this.

Personally, I do think that you have yet to experience losing. You speak of gambling so highly that you quickly conclude that it can be a money-making venture. Open your eyes and accept reality- gambling cannot be profitable in the long run.

I haven't seen any gamblers who actually won because of the tactics they used, because I saw that 100% gambling, whether it's crypto or traditional gambling, can't really be considered a skill.

The only thing I'm sure of is that in gambling, it's impossible not to experience winning. The only thing that often happens in casinos is that most of the gamblers lose, and only a few win. Maybe it really depends on whether you win often when you play gambling.

I read your post OP. You have mentioned that with right strategies, you can make more wins then losses. But here you are completely wrong mate. Gambling is all about game of luck, so no matter what strategy you follow, if your destiny has loss for it, then no one can save you from getting into losses. Yes, if you are talking about sportsbetting, then yes, upto some sort of skill is required to make the analysis, but in order to win at a casino game, your luck needs to good.

OP is probably talking about skilled based game if you were able to understand his statement.

And you might have violated as you posted in this thread when you don't believe that one can win in gambling.
her's what OP stated.

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We can discuss this no chance to win as gambling is all bout luck in other threads maybe, this thread is an evidence that there's some people who are optimistic in winning, call them stupid maybe but they do exist and they believe they'll win.

I might be one of those posters who discourage others because the earlier you accept that idea, the faster you can adapt and stem the bleeding from your losses. Some guides could even share the same concept because you mentioned minimizing risks.

Regardless of that discouraging part, i'm still willing to guide gamblers to make a profit only if they're asking for it because we aim to make money in the end, and it's nice to see others succeed with your help.

Putting up this kind of thread could lead to gambling disorder because newbies can be misinformed. The topic seems to be saying that gambling could be seen as a platform for steady income since one can consistently win. This means that it could be seen as a full-time job. But the truth is that gambling shouldn't be seen as a job because the income is unpredictable.

Even in sports betting there is no guarantee that one will win a bet. There are some games that you will never expect the outcome and an example is what we saw in the FIFA World Cup in Qatar or even the recent boxing fight between Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou. I have seen people that win big but it is difficult to identify a gambler that has been a consistent winner. Come to think of it OP didn't give us any strategy that we can apply to consistently win.  

Sharing your strategy is fine because we need to help others after all we are in the same position of trying to beat the house. But people should know that these are just suggestions and not a guarantee that you will win. If you tell them that it is a sure bet, they might use all their savings or even take a loan to place the bet. I am also willing to learn from you ;). 

Yep most gamblers don't believe they can make consistently money beacose gambling carer is very high risk carer. If you play reckless then you will loss huge amount and it's actually happened most of gambler face losses for going to make constantly money. It's risky to your economy if luck fevour then sometimes you can make consistently money but maximum time it's highly risky work. That's the reason they don't believe to making constant money.

Yes, luck of course, gives a person a big opportunity to get a big win and after someone gets a big win, he is free to use his money for whatever he wants and he can even make a house out of his winnings. He can also keep the people around him a secret from where he got a lot of money so he can make a house. Yes, luck gives people hope to keep gambling and want to win. That is why there are still many people who buy the lottery because they can still hope to get the jackpot prize from the lottery, which is a lot of money.

That's because they still see people can win some money from gambling so they still want to gamble to win. That's also what makes them think that they can earn income from gambling when, in reality, it's not easy at all and they have to use a lot of money to win. And it doesn't just happen to experienced gamblers but it also happens to gamblers who have just gotten into gambling. Those who are new to gambling see that some people can win from gambling so it becomes an obsession for them so that they can get money from gambling too. They don't know that it is difficult to get because many things have to be sacrificed and it also doesn't guarantee that they can win some money.

Gamblers should be able to think that what other people get will not always happen to them so they don't need to follow what other people do. They only need to use gambling as entertainment and not to earn income, which will only result in them losing.

There are not a few.

This field has many participants, but most of them are gold mines for platforms to exploit money from people's pockets. I remember in the 90s, when I first watched movies about gambling, and indeed, the image of good gamblers greatly influenced our generation. It might be a twist on the filmmaking to attract attention, but I also know of some players who have good skills offline, but there are some things that I know are scams in gambling.

Regardless of the field, there will always be people with perfect skills, but we all admit that success is not for everyone at the same time.

Yeah, I believe it's the best thing a player can do because if you're having wins with a strategy then others should also have those wins and that's why sharing of the strategy is the most beautiful thing a player can do. Even if someone shares his/her strategy that doesn't mean the others who follow that strategy will have consistent wins because everyone has differing phycological and emotional levels and if someone is winning with a strategy then the other one might end up loosing everything with the same strategy.

It's always better to guide those people in a proper way and also tell them about the risks that they might face if they won't follow the strategy the way you are following it. I think a disclaimer is always a good thing when you are sharing a strategy because if someone losses with your strategy then they will put all blame on your shoulder and may use bad words for you.

I would not discourage gambling because gambling can make a gambler more money quickly. But its number must not be high. Before starting every task a person needs to know the task well otherwise he will not be able to complete the task spontaneously. Gambling is where a gambler conducts his gambling activities without having any idea of how to conduct gambling, so even if he wins, he does not get to keep the winnings. In many cases, they become addicted and lose money. Gambling can really provide good entertainment if one manages to keep it under control.

Indeed, the reality is like that, victory is difficult to get if it is not luck that favors me, I think victory is impossible to get, there are also many who misunderstand gambling that many of them make gambling a benchmark for making a living or to support their daily needs, of course this is not the right thing, if like this in my opinion in the future it will make it difficult for them in the future.

The mistake is not in gambling, but in themselves who misinterpret gambling itself, because of that many people are miserable because of misinterpreting gambling, if only they had a goal that was only to seek pleasure in gambling maybe they would not experience many losses that made them difficult themselves.

The gambler's mind set has  a lot to do with his approach to gambling, if his mind set is aimed at making money most probably to make a fortune gambling he sets his gambling goal in such direction and in some cases turns out desperate and may be irrational with gambling.

If his mindset is towards entertainment then he gamble's with dependency on luck because he wouldn't have to be to logical since he just want to be entertained but then if he set his mind to making money which is aswell possible, his approach turns out different because he will now apply the rule of strategy even if we know it aswell doesn't guarantee success but it will definitely go a long way to provide him with an edge with which he increases his chances of turning out a success.

No doubt, am not here to discourage gamblers or critize them, they love what they are doing and they know how to do it best. Have never come across a gambler who is successful or rather have not seen anyone building a house or buying a car from gambling profit, have only heard stories like that but have not seen. In my locality people win a lot sometimes huge amount of money and sometimes little money it depends but even with that huge money that person is still not successful and sometimes I use to wonder why.
From my view every gambler who place their bet well and win a huge amount of money can do something meaningful with that money that's what make a gambler successful, not only in the gambling aspect, I believe everyone here has a job and we receive salary monthly or weekly, but not everyone is entitled to that name successful, At the end of the day some will decide to lavish their money and some will invest. If every gambler can do something meaning with his money after winning that's good for them.

But yes it is true, the problem here is that their mindset is very messed up, and I would say that I think they have entered the addiction phase, because obviously usually if gamblers already have inviolable beliefs then they are too severe in terms of putting hope in a victory, some of the advice you give them will almost be useless and instead they will fight back with some of their defense reasons. Yes, situations like this are indeed very difficult and also on the other hand all of that is out of our control because basically they have the right to do everything they choose and what they think is best even though it is basically wrong.

That's why I'm sure you've also heard a lot of advice from others to firmly impose a lot of restrictions on the gambling you do, it's nothing but they care about you because they understand that if you are late and enter the addiction phase then the situation will be different again, you will not be able to get sober if only with a few suggestions and may require more  serious action. That's right, gambling is nothing more than a possibility which means that everything is still uncertain, we only tell you and  the rest is up to you because you yourself will feel the bad impact later, so go ahead, don't let you regret it because it's too late.

I think most gamblers do believe that they can constantly make money from gambling at first, there is no way a non gambler will judge gambling without trying it first, because it's easy to try it out now that we have online casinos, but truth is many have tried gambling few times already and they aren't pleased with the result they got.

Some are motivated to become a gambler because of their friends or some streamers video they watched online, and in the end they find out that it's not what they thought it was.

If you are consistently winning money in gambling it's because you are a rare species, someone who get lucky more than others, people with this great luck are not many, so accept what you are and erase what you are thinking before, not everyone can be this lucky with gambling.

I have lost a lot of rounds in gambling, but I am feeling good today because the amount so far is still ridiculously low, if you know your worth and you don't chase ridiculous gambling amounts you will be fine.

Optimism brings you to an interesting place. It’s a good feeling to have but obviously not enough.
You know what is even better? Having a good bankroll management, no hurry to make money fast and emotional awareness. Discipline helps a lot too.

It’s almost everything about calculating risks after all

I doubt that "most" gamblers feel the same way, I mean it looks like we are talking about a situation that would be a little bit different, we are talking about a situation that would allow them to be a bit different and think that it could be a bit weirder. I understand that we are talking about a situation where most gamblers are aware that they are not going to make money consistently, sure there could be some moments where you get lucky and win a lot here and there, we all did, but that doesn't mean that we all expect to keep having the same result at all times.

This is why it is quite obvious that we are talking about a situation that would be a little bit different, it is not going to be all that easy to handle one way or another. We need to make sure that it could be a little bit different. So not all gamblers feel the same way, and the ones that think this, will end up thinking it is not possible eventually so it is going to be fine and they will join our ranks to gamble just for fun.

No one is actually an Ireland of knowledge, we all depends on each other the learn and gain experience in anything we are doing, using someone else's strategies and mixing them together with your own altogether will give something better than we could have seeby if we are not leveraging on other's opinion and strategies, we have seen alot of cases that it was at the cause of doing this some gamblers have the opportunity of seing some more exposure to what they have been doing for long, we therefore indirectly depends on each other in gambling and ours is to take the good sides and use, leaving the rest.

I do believe that anyone can be profitable in gambling, so I feel I'm welcome in this thread. However, I'm not someone who believes in theories and things that are solely based on hope and wish and have very tiny chances of happening. There is no doubt that a gambler can be profitable if they carry out their activities with utmost care and show some discipline and stays within their limits, but no one can convince me that a gambler can constantly make money from gambling, no matter how disciplined they are.

I'm not a person who says things that he didn't see or experienced and are just based on assumptions and imaginations, and when I say that gambling isn't a way to gain money on a constant basis, it means that I've experienced it and I've seen others experiencing the same as well. If only discipline, skills, and strategies could make every gambler become profitable, casinos wouldn't be profitable businesses for their owners.

I think we need to be realistic... anyone can be profitable in gambling, and anyone can lose in gambling (in the short or long run), it's gambling. I am an optimistic guy, when I deposit I hope for some luck, but at the same time, I know my chances when I decide to bet on sports and when I decide to spin some slots. And that is the tricky part, there are games where we can consistently make money, but there are also games where chances for that are low. Since I love to play slots, normal spins, and bonus buys, I know how hard is to make a profit in every session. And I am not pessimistic here, I just have a lot of experience, and I know that I can buy a bonus and get x0, or have 200-300 spins without bonus round.

I believe that I can be profitable in gambling which is why I Gamble. I have also gone the extra length to watch tons of YouTube videos on gambling by most gambling professionals. I am looking to develop or improve on my gambling strategies. I would want to learn  if there are new skills, tips and tricks that can help me to be better gambler. I have even considered buying their courses but that is a future plan . It is my optimism that keeps me going.

It is not about having the believe that we can make money from what we do but allow the probability of us getting the money. Sometimes we might try as much as possible to be optimistic about the whole thing and try as much to get in so that we can be lucky but we might not get fortunate. Gambling is not all about be too confidence about a particular game but doing what will make us make profits for ourselves. We need to do things that would bring money for us so that we can earn and also bet to win more. The believe we have about a bet does not really matters, what matter is how we play the game.

Yep. Anyone can win in gambling, anyone can get profits, and anyone get money! Both experienced and beginners, have the chance.
But to get profits consistently, to get a good luck every time, or to win every time, it is something different. Gambling isn't the right place for the people who expect to get profits/money every time. There is no guarantee for any one to always make money. It is the place for entertainment or to get fun activities with a bonus of earning money.

If you do the right way in gambling and you try to get luck in few games, no doubt you will make money someday. But it is true that no one can guarantee to win the games every time, we have no exact ways to always win and get money. Even most gambling games are based on the luck, how we can increase the chance for luck?  :-\

Discipline, limit the funds, do certain strategy, and know well the games, are some ways to optimize the chance to win or make money. However, those never guarantee someone to win every time.

This is true, it's basically near impossible levels for someone to make a consistent income from gambling, and yet there are some people who think that it is possible, which is sad. I see those people trying to do that and end up with a huge loss eventually, that should be something that people be careful about and not fall for. Seeing some other person making money doesn't mean you will too, and yet newbies fall for it.

In the end, gambling is gambling, people are aware what they are going into, they should be aware that they could lose all their money and this isn't a secret, so the fact that they could do what they could possibly do, it's all based on their own decision, doesn't seem like it will be all that much of a big deal.

make sure that I have seen many youtubers and instgramers promoting their courses or support service from gambling platforms by sharing their affiliate links.
also I think their is nothing like courses for gambling, gambling is easy their is no learning for just predicting and placing chips the learning thing is to control ourself while winning and losing which cannot be learned by taking courses, and if they are selling some kind strategies then stay away from them there is not strategy to win in gambling, just keeping patience and discipline is key here. also I will say to everyone that do not play with money you need.

Not just for being optimistc but more on how you will execute your strategy and how you will keep improving your strategy there are many available guides and strategy that you may use as patterns or basis on how you will form your own ways of gambling at the beginning you may just try following or you may take time to practice using free bet coming from the site, though there's no pressures as there's no money involve at first,

when you feel that you are ready to better start using small amounts and try to work it out and see if how the strategy will work and how you can continue improving, there's always a process and you need to accept the fact that you are inside gambling which is more on the risk side so it's better to be wise when deciding.

But the problem is that only a few gamblers can make profits consistently because most gamblers will experience losses and it will cost them all their money if they don't have self-control. And that will have an impact on the wins we can get if we can get lucky because with that luck, we can win. But there is no guarantee that anyone will be able to make money from gambling. Gamblers who have been gambling for a long time should be able to know about luck, which cannot come all the time when we gamble. But every gambler wins, regardless of whether they can win consistently or occasionally because it also depends on the luck and skills they have.

But that isn't the topic mate. We aren't discussing how the rich approach gambling vs the poor. The thread is about how you can profit from gambling and those who don't believe in that, as OP said, can stay away from the thread :P.

I think we all win in gambling sometimes but the problem is that we keep gambling more and more until we have lost everything. Knowing when to stop after a win can go a long way to securing profits in gambling. Remember, the casino is a giant fish and you cannot eat the big fish so be happy with what you have won and cash it out!

I am optimistic that profits can be made but I am also of the opinion that it cannot just happen randomly. You have to strategize how you are going to achieve it. I will suggest some options:

Sports

1- Arbitrage Betting: Find 2 sportsbooks offering different odds on the same event. It's usually easier to find on low-ranked games.
2- Cash Out: There are markets where you can bet and within a few minutes cash out in profit. For example, a dota2 game where one team has early game, they are likely to have a lead and then lose the game. You can take advantage of the fact that you know they will have early lead and odds will drop.

Casino

I think the only way to make money from casinos is by using promotions. It can be Eddie ve Stake, deposit bonuses with low wagering requirements, etc.

I would like to point out that many casinos do not like arbitrage. They may increase the deposit/withdrawal percentage (the arbitrageur often deposits and withdraws funds - so he is easy to track), impose restrictions on the number or size of bets or simply block the account

It's just like in trading where they say only 5% of the traders earn money through trading, So it doesn't mean that you won't see people or traders that make profit in the market, so bringing it back to gambling, there are also profitable gamblers but the percentage that earns money through betting is small in relative or compared to the number of people who lose money. Experience and good knowledge, and strategy, discipline are the key things that help one to become a profitable gambler. The majority of gamblers get it wrong and are not willing to learn, they're only desperate about earning money without proper knowledge.

The thing is that although they have this believe and they still gamble, it's because of the thrill and fun experience that most person acquire that makes their brain and mind always want to gamble despite the believe system that gambling can't fetch them steady income, of which I do tend to agree with. Sometimes I wonder the criteria that is behind someone actually being a successful gambler because am sure success and the term gambling is hard to used together and that's my opinion but the way.

Sure, there might be poker players out there, who play professionally and actually make profits somehow. But this type of "career" is almost impossible for most people. And I believe that giving someone false hope that gambling can be a method to earn a stable income is wrong and should not be encouraged. There are enough people with problems in the world of gambling, I see no need to further add on to those problems with such ridiculous claims.

If you want to convince someone that gambling can be a source of income, then you should lead by example and provide proof.

The point is not that you believe or don’t believe in ways to consistently make money in gambling, but the harsh truth of life statistics that most gamblers end up losing. If this were not so, the casinos would have gone bankrupt long ago.

According to the theory of probability, there must be such people. Of course, it’s good to believe, but can you give examples of such gamblers?

Maybe because in practice it is almost impossible to implement? Have you thought about this?

Maybe because these correct strategies don't exist, it is impossible to minimize the risk of bankruptcy, as well as increase the chances of winning? What if this is true?


You can officially announce that I am not welcome here. :)

It is this optimism, bordering on the edge of recklessness and greed, that leads gamblers to debt, poverty and broken lives.

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Allure of gambling which is driven by the thrill and fun experience it provides is a sentiment shared by many. The excitement and unpredictability associated with gambling can indeed be captivating, drawing people despite the prevailing belief that it's not a reliable means of generating steady income. The notion of successful gambling raises an interesting paradox, as success in gambling is often considered elusive due to its inherent risk and dependency on chance. Many people engage in gambling for entertainment rather than with the expectation of consistent financial gains.

Becoming a successful gambler is a complex and multifaceted challenge. It involves a combination of skill, strategy, discipline, and luck. Professional gamblers often focus on games where skill plays a significant role, such as poker or sports betting, and employ a disciplined approach to managing risks. it cant be forgotten to recognize that even the most skilled gamblers face uncertainties. Responsible gambling involves understanding the risks, setting limits, and viewing it as a form of entertainment rather than a reliable source of income.

Yes it is possible or very likely that there are some or even many people who can earn from their gambling in any gambling, but I would not really believe if there is the word consistent in income because in general the risk will always be greater but maybe they have a pretty good way that can minimize the risk and increase the percentage of winning or luck. Of course, when it comes to career I really don't believe a gambler can build a successful career, if there are some people who motivate others that they can use gambling as a place to make a "consistent" income then I think their mindset is disturbed, and as you said it is really not recommended because of the level of risk that is much greater.

There is enough evidence and facts that show that anyone who brings the mindset of wanting to make stable money from gambling always ends up with a downfall and many other problems.  It is just a push of nonsense, and it makes sense as your suggestion if there are people who say like that then we will be able to believe if they provide real evidence, so we must be more careful.

When it comes to consistency then it would really be that surely a non possible thing considering that we are speaking or talking about gambling knowing that chances and odds are really that against
us on long term manner. If you do mold up something like on the idea on having a living with gambling then you are really just that making yourself desperate on trying out to reach something
which it cant really be that too easy to attain or simply it cant really be just that possible. This is why gamblers do really play further because on having these kind of beliefs
on which trying out to achieve and make it that happen that gambling could really make them rich which we know that there are really that slim chances for it to
happen. Greed is what makes you that thinking up that way.

Looking at the Op's perspective, gamblers shouldn't think a player can't make a living through gambling. Because as gamblers we are supposed to have met players who actually earn significant amounts through gambling. Don't know for online gamblers, but physical casinos comprises of these kinds of gamblers. And they also have comps that help gamblers to stay winning by earning points. On the other hand, it's not wrong to think of gamblers not winning consistently in gambling, especially for gamblers who haven't seen or read about such people. Somehow, these people who make a career out of gambling begin early to master how the machines work. Though risky for any other gambler, but a well strategized player that understand the house edge can make a consistent money via gambling. Your second paragraph is right, and it's one of the strategies of professional gamblers. They don't worry about winning big in gambling. The motive is enjoying the process and mastering slot machines or poker games. I grasp Op's obsession about such gamblers, as it sounds like they don't trust the power of gambling. The risk is high, but I keep telling people, that doesn't make it impossible.

There is no one plus one two multiplication formula in gambling, which is why people believe that gambling cannot provide consistent profits. I don't necessarily agree with what you say and everyone has been involved in gambling so they have their own ideas every time they respond to a post. Gambling can make money, but not consistently as you are talking about and if today you win, it could be that tomorrow you will lose.

There is no way to make money consistently in gambling where we win today and lose tomorrow and so on. If you think there is gambling that can produce consistent profits, let's discuss it and show us what gambling you mean? Because if we only discuss assumptions, it's the same as discussing wildly and without references.

No way I will use trading to compare these two. Simply because in trading you are not up against the house, Binance is not fighting you there it's a human being on the other side and Binance (as an example) is just using both parties for their profits.

Gambling is very different when it comes to profit-making. You will need a lot of luck and some skills. Trading can be done using skills or high capital to manipulate the market, as a whale.
How I wish I screenshot all my bets so that everyone will know how bad it is whenever the house is trying to get back what it has lost. Also, do consider that they won't let anyone win when the money comes from bonuses. No way.
Here is my take using experience only. A gambler who used his bonuses can deplete his wallet in just a matter of hours. While a gambler who deposited can deplete his balance in 2 or 3 days. I think many gamblers will agree with me because it's easy to see it once you made hundreds of thousands of bets.
Today, I only made $200 wagered amount from a $10 bonus, while last week I made $1000 wagered amount from a $5 deposit. My point is, defeating the house is impossible and trading is defeating the other guy and the market which I think is more possible than with gambling.

some people may be able to get consistent profits from their gambling, maybe they have above average analysis and skills, but that is only limited to board games or sports, they will not be able to make money consistently on slot games which are completely based on luck.

and it also only happens to a few people, we cannot generalize that everyone can make money consistently from gambling because it is related to skill, analysis, type of game, etc., that's why consistently making money from gambling is difficult to achieve (not impossible, just hard to achieve).

Yes I agree with you because gambling always related to luck which means very impossible to win consistently even if various strategies will used but still gambling always win because they have full control over whatever decision they have, example when someone bet on sports betting with consistent winning after choosing club with low odds will eventually be prohibited gambling authorities for several reasons.
I got this experience after I was told by other people here who gave me advice that betting like that makes gambling owner not like it, meanwhile betting on small odds not always win but at least looking the match situation we can win but comes back to the problem namely gambling don't want to go bankrupt and be defeated gamblers so consistent winning is very difficult.

Correct, a very specific set of circumstances need to come together for a person to become a profitable gambler, and those circumstances are very rare, because even if there are a lot of gamblers out there looking to obtain profits, the number of those that achieve it is really low, so they are either not making the necessary efforts to achieve this goal or achieving it is way harder than expected, with my preferred explanation about why this is the case being the latter by far.

If the gambling they do is based on skill and analysis like sports then perhaps your assumption could be correct, but on the other hand I would not say that they will be able to win consistently because basically whatever type of gambling you do it will always depend on your luck at that time, so maybe I will just say that if you are skilled enough in terms of analysis and have broad enough insight in the field of sports then maybe you won't experience too many losses, it could be that your winnings happen more often than defeat with the condition that you have to have very good skills and analysis, from 100% you can have a 70% chance maybe and the rest refers to your luck.

Obviously, the slot algorithm is very difficult to crack and this game is 100% pure luck, to confirm this I have proven that whatever method or strategy you use will really not be useful for winning, therefore you have to be careful In slot games, it's like you are betting on your own luck. One of the reasons why it is difficult to achieve consistent results is because there is absolutely no certainty of achieving victory or being slightly better and even just an indication is difficult to find. So it's better to just look for another alternative.

Whether we believe in consistent profits or not, we should always try to make profits for ourselves e en thought it's not consistent. Betting can be different everyday. We might not be having that same luck of making consistent profits like before and that should not make us to overlook the way we bet and refuse to bet again. If we have the mindset of becoming a consistent gambler and even though we might have not reach the level, it is good for us to relax and keep working on becoming a good and skilled gambler. We might not be getting it now but with time, it is certain that we are going to make better profits as a gambler.

We must always differentiate two things, playing unconsciously and playing consciously with the money willing to lose, we all know that the money we have willing to lose is the first thing we must determine before entering the game, if we determine in our session game that we can spend 50usd and that 50usd will not affect our daily life at all, we can play unconsciously and in a crazy way, however we want to play, with the style we want to play, but it is very important that it is respected that the money that can be spent is only 50usd, you cannot go beyond that, if it happens that you end up losing the 50usd, even if we really want to spend more or spend more we should not do it, that is a single rule By spending what we were willing to lose we were left with fun, there was no extra money left, but if that was left, the enjoyment, that is what interests us, it is what I consider should be done.

 Why do people lose control? because before playing they do not think about the consequences of the game if the money we are willing to lose runs out, some are very lucky and if that 50usd takes them to 200usd, if that happens, we have to be smart and withdraw that money, you can't start investing, we'll take it to 400 or 600usd, we can't think in that greedy way, because in the casino things are programmed to favor the casino and as I have said on many occasions in various threads, the house always wins, and we should not be part of that percentage that always loses in a casino, when we had the opportunity to get some winnings, when we had the touch of luck to have won some money, we must apply intelligence, reason , cunning in a casino, we should not act like beings who do not learn anything, because that is what differentiates us from animals, that we have the ability to improve and do things better.

Gambling is a double edged 2 sided bet, I mean there is a 50% chance of winning and a 50% chance of losing. Winning is possible, but there are very few calculations from gamblers who experience defeat. Usually, gambling site managers pay affiliates or influencers endorsements through pre-arranged game wins. After winning, they will post the winnings on social media, accompanied by proof of withdrawal, this trick is very effective in attracting the attention of other people to play on the site.

The bookies also have the same goal as you, wanting to always win. However, your hope of winning is not certain, but the dealer's victory is certain. So for this reason gambling cannot be used as a place to earn consistently, you also have to understand and learn from gambling experiences where you lose more often than you win.

The OP explained to us that most gamblers don't believe that we can actually use gambling to earn income and yes I agree with that "but" in my opinion it doesn't mean that we can do it consistently but only sometimes or because of luck.
Even though we have implemented what OP said that is strategy, discipline, improving skills, minimizing the risk of loss, and using budget limits, but in my opinion all of that is not enough to earn income consistently, now logically how is it possible for gambling to give us consistent profits?? can't we beat or fool the casino?? If we can win consistently, of course casino owners will go bankrupt over time if many gamblers can use their skills accurately. In fact, there are more gamblers who go bankrupt than successful gamblers, so I don't agree that gambling can make money consistently even with skill ;)

I don't seem to agree with you totally on this because the percentages are not exactly like this. 50-50 is only for games like dice, single bets and dual option games. The percentage is totally different for accumulators and sharply increase against winning as the number of accumulations increases.

So gambling is rarely 50% chance of winning and 50% chance of losing because the probability of losing is far higher and increases as the odds also increases.  At some point, it is even safer to put the percentage of losing as high as 80%. This is why a good plan of action is needed to remain in profits. With a good plan in place, few winnings should be able to cover many loses and still ensure player is in profit.

Truth be told that, every business has its own risk and gambling isn’t exempted and most successful gamblers will always tell you that gambling is one of the best ways to make money and majority of the people who always think there isn’t any consistent way to make money from gambling are at some point  greedy with their winnings and games and what I mean is that, for one to be successful in gambling, you ought to have some certain characteristics which includes ability to control one’s greed, knowing when to play and when to stop and several others. I personally know that it is possible to stay very profitable in gambling but we shouldn’t be to greedy with the things and way we gamble.

There is a special mix of risk and return in gambling, which uses human traits like self-control and discipline. This is true: winning at gambling isnt just luck; its also about planning and having the right attitude. Even though there are risks, we need to be aware of them and act responsibly. A lot of people who are good at gambling have one thing in common: they can control their urge to buy things and know when to stop. Becoming aware of yourself is very important. There are, however, bigger effects that we need to think about as well. Does the desire to make money seem more important than the chance of losing money when gambling? Can we really support gambling as a reliable way to make money when it can also help people become addicted and lose everything they own? These are the contradictions we face when gambling. The exciting possibility of making money and the harsh reality of danger have to be balanced.

It is the same as hoping for luck because the certainty of making money consistently is still quite risky and uncertain. Gambling sites do try to advertise their services through several influencers or more precisely artists who have a large number of followers on social media. This method is believed to be quite effective and very appropriate for finding a market to attract sympathetic users because they try to play promotional strategies with some of the evidence provided.

A number of people even often say this, when you want to make money consistently then become a bookie or owner of a gambling site because if you intend to be involved in gambling to make consistent profits it will be far from possible. If we are involved in gambling ten times for example and if we count the winnings no more than 4 times and the rest we lose or lose and most likely offset the capital.

And I also agree with you that the ability to maintain the exciting possibilities of making money and the harsh reality of the dangers is what actually classifies one as a successful gambler and most times it take extra effort to attain success in gambling and most times I think even if gambling wouldn’t or shouldn’t be classified generally as a totally luck based game, I think luck shouldn’t be exempted because there are always days we’re the winnings come seamlessly and there are days where the losses comes as if you offended the casino and at some point we begin thinking the casino isn’t provably fair.

We don’t know the exact number of people who posting without playing and with playing gambling.But if the gambler post with the technical data,we can understand he will post by the experience in gambling.The gambler need not worry about the other’s criticism once they join the gambling.Because the gambler should himself understand the rules of gambling before starting of the game and ready to accept the loss incase he get loss due to bad luck in the game.The gambler should play the discipline game for the benefit of the good game output.If the gambler follow the rules,his money in the gambling wallet will be safe.If he follow rules,his account won’t be banned by the gambling site.

You can consistenly make money, but you will have troubles when you will want to withdraw your earnings. Especially if you make those winnings through sport betting. Casinos are usually more permissive with slot and casino table games winners, but I'm not sure they stay the same if you win too much for long time thanks to bonuses, promotions and contests.

It seems that there are some of those on the forum, especially those who are into gambling but they are not gamblerss, meaning that they do not have direct experience and are not involved in gambling, but it doesn't matter at least with them intervening in the discussion there will be some positive knowledge that they can digest to be used as lessons so that they do not have the fate of those who are down in terms of the negative effects of gambling. To be honest, I wouldn't care too much about that, but we'll still be talking about things that should be done and things that should be avoided, at least for advice and warnings.

Understanding gambling is reallly recommended especially for those who are new and involved who usually often make mistakes whether it's technically or in terms of self-management and plans, on  the other hand I think it seems like casinos will give them warnings or even block  their accounts if they do some pretty suspicious actions..

I have been here for a long time in crypto gambling, but I have never really experienced winning a large amount in a casino here in cryptocurrency. That's why other gamblers who hit the jackpot are sometimes envious.

Is it in my mind that my lips say that such an amount means that I already have a good life and all I will do is enjoy life? Then I will know that those who won millions in the lottery or casino will suddenly return to the poverty of their origin. So because of a situation like this, we can also think that it is not really possible to get a profit here in the gambling of the fix; instead, it is really just luck to win here.

Whether casinos or bookies, they do hate up players who are really just that extremely lucky considering that those fellas could bring out that huge damage or effect into their business then it would really be just that a common approach that there might be some banning or prohibition for that certain player to play or make bets on which this isnt something shocking kind of situation on which there are really
people who had those kind of prohibition. So better not to make yourself that wishing on having those constant wins.  ;D Somewhat in having tons of platforms that we could really be able to
play then this issue wont really be a problem and as long we are making money then this what matter the most. How possible it is? It is really just that a small dust of chance
if we do speak of this.

This is why we should not make gambling a place to make a living, lest you have the assumption that winning is easy to achieve or even by including the word consistent in it, it's like you will trap yourself in many new problems or mean creating your own problems for yourself. I hope you or anyone else does not misunderstand what is meant by the odds in gambling, because that one point usually makes gamblers seem to lose their minds and always chase something that basically does not have any certainty and guarantee.

I think it's true that all the problems start from their misunderstanding of the point of view of gambling, they only see from one side and do not consider from various sides so that in the end they make wrong decisions and beliefs in their minds, obviously this will only make them experience problems, especially financial in the long run because it is quite difficult to be able to restore consciousness if you put too much ambition and hope in that activity.

Same, it’s really hard to win jackpot prize here especially if we are not frequently playing games such as slot that has massive multiplier for our small bet. I usually just play card games and sport betting which is why I rarely manage to win big aside from making x2 of my bankroll unlike other player here that literally grow their bankroll to insane level by hitting max multiplier in slot games.

I’m just thinking that they already loss huge amount before they hit jackpot to remove my envious feelings toward them. Because it’s very hard not to feel envy if you are struggling on winning while others seems like doing it too easy.

We never know, I never heard of a person consistently winning huge amount of money in slots.  We might be seeing people posting big wins, but I believe these people lost certain amount of money before hitting that huge multipliers, so casino often times more permissive with slots and casino table games.  I believe some casino had shown their colors of not letting a slot winner to withdraw his huge winnings.  We can find these cases posted on the Scam accusation board.


If you have the fund, knowledge and skill to manage a casino then you can make gambling a place to make a living, as casino owner, or casino employee, or casino streamer.  But as a player, I think we can find it hard to consistently win and make profit in gambling.

The problem with today's world is that many of us just want to see the success side of things and never want to know the failures that lead to the actual success!
If anything,people need to be told that behind every success story, there is failure that was the foundation and lead to a change of mindset that cracked the code to become successful.

And when it comes to gambling the problem that's there is emotions which lead to greed otherwise when all these obstacles are overcome, one can build a successful story.

Btw, not everyone that is making it in gambling is winning genuinely...some use prohibited strategies such as arbitrage which makes them consistent winners  :P

Unfortunately it's a small number of people that have found success in gambling which is why many users wouldn't want anybody to go all in and take it iPad a career, this should be strictly for fun and games and monetary incentive as a byproduct.

I do not believe that things in a casino are good by playing a lot all the time, for that reason in a casino people should not get excited when they go to the casino, nor even have hope when they are losing, because in a casino when a player has a streak loser, what you should do is stop so as not to spend all the money, I responsibly say that you cannot win constantly in a casino because if you believe that it is like thinking that there is a secure income, and that is not true, those are beliefs of some players who are lucky when they play, but it is something that is not reliable.

I do not recommend that you do that, every player should go to a casino to enjoy and have a good time, fun is what you should do in a casino, not thinking that you have to have an income like a job, it is the worst mistake you can make. can be had in life, for that reason you have to see the casino for what it is, for the conceptualization it represents and not for myths.

Exactly! It's normal to feel that way and to lessened such feelings better to think of something that can possibly divert your attention,  and allowing yourself to feed something that leads you to keep moving forward,  maybe it's not your time yet or maybe they already deserved it since they've been there for quite a long time and they already lose a lot before luck back them up and allow them to win such amount,  and who knows maybe somewhere along the way it's your time to win and be the next in line.

Well really if they want to make a steady income in gambling then obviously if you just become a gambler then obviously it is too impossible because you will just depend all the final results on your luck which will not come every time. As you suggested, it's better to build your own casino and you play the role of a casino owner who has full power in your own casino.

That is why we always say that the real winnings are only for the house and not for the gambler, but the house has a very good way and algorithm by dividing a little winnings to increase someone's addiction so that they continue to play and the rest of the casino will take your money back. But the problem is that not many people can think there, they think that it is too complicated and also other things in terms of finance where they feel that with not too much money it will not be possible for them to build their own casino, there is some truth in that but on the other hand try to calculate all the money you have lost to gambling, I suspect that the results of the calculations you calculate can actually build a casino. :D

Indeed, it is a business and of course, the house doesn't let gamblers win more than their profit. If we lose, it doesn't mean that the house is cheating on us but instead, we accept the fact that this is how gambling looks like were only get lucky and win the prize while more gambler lose their money. That is why if we think that gambling is a good way of making money, then we have not to do that because that is impossible. Only the house and casino owners make money while gamblers (us) only get fun and experience.

I do not know why to some gamblers find this is so difficult to understand, every single business out there needs to obtain profits to keep their doors open, if you go to a restaurant it is obvious the restaurant is charging you more for the food and the drinks than the actual costs that went into making them, and no one really complains about it, but when it comes to the casinos many gamblers think it is unfair for the casino to give themselves an edge, something that does not really make sense.

That's a fact but unfortunately only a small percentage of gamblers are aware of this, casinos are businesses owned by bookmakers, their goal is to make a profit from losing gamblers, and that's a big reason why most gamblers lose more often than they win. There are no free dinners for gamblers, everything costs money and requires sacrifice, it is very difficult to win if you only contribute with one bet, it is quite impossible and you will only win when you have lost several bets.

Therefore, never carry the assumption or idea that you come to earn, it's nothing more than you want to trap yourself unknowingly. Casinos have complicated and unpredictable algorithms, the systems they apply to gambling can make you lose your mind subconsciously and that is why many gamblers are stuck on a cycle of chasing losses to chase the almost impossible break-even point. There is no other way to get better unless you can be sincere with all that you have lost, this is a very important understanding that all gamblers especially beginners must understand that gambling is not a place to earn.

Gambling as we know is designed to mostly favor the casino,  so saying the chances of winning and loosing is the same is what I cannot agree with, if you check vry well the rates of losses is way more higher than the wins in the gambling world, which probs the ods of loosing is higher. The only way I believe that one can truly make more profits is to be on the receiving side, that is to own a casino yourself, that way you're sure of making steady income from gambling.

The natural truth is that making consistent profits in gambling is very hard. We need to understand that so we don't deceive ourselves that making consistent profits is easy and everyone can achieve that. We need to know that not everyone can achieve making consistent profits in the betting so when we find ourselves making loses, we should not see it as a wrong time or there is something we are not doing well. Sometimes we might keep trying adjusting bets to fit the manner that would bring profits to us and we might never make that profits due to so many factors.

It's definitely possible, but only under certain conditions: good examples are pro poker players and sports betting gurus. So in order to make consistent profit you'll need lots of experience, skill, expertise, talent etc. It's certainly not for everyone.

By papers 50/50 is what we believe but in terms of incoming profits, casino was designed to earn with H.E  they always have that money to earn when gamblers uses their platforms, I see exactly what you are pointing and we all know that if chances happen you can win but there's always emotions that influence the outcome.

If you are good in terms of controlling your emotion, you will earn but if you are not good on that surely you'll lose a lot.

Becoming a professional gambler is definitely not for everyone, many gamblers have the dream of leaving their jobs and becoming a gambler, a dream that in a way surprises me as professional gamblers do not have a fixed salary they can get each month, with the possibility of not getting anything or even losing money for a longer period of time than that, and most people will be unable to deal with a situation like that so it should be better for them if they gave up on such an unrealistic dream.

Professional gambler would really be just be able to fit into those people who are really that dealing with strategic type of games like sports betting and some card games on which this would really be that a matter of skills and experience towards it on which there would really be those individuals who could really actually be able to make a living with it. This is why some gamblers would really be trying out to reach out that kind of success but just like been said that it isnt for everyone and this is why it wouldnt really be that a good idea if you are trying out to reach out that kind of
position or condition because you would be finding yourself that too desperate. This isnt something to be applicable into those games who do really relying heavily on luck on which
it is really that not ideal if you do pursue out on things which are impossible to happen.

For sure there are lots of gamblers already that achieved in success in gambling. There is no doubt about that.

But that kind of fortune can't be applied to everyone here in gambling world. It's good for me to discourage others from doing gambling and let their curiosity find the answer why other people are like that. These successful gamblers don't have to guide gamblers with the right strategies. I mean, why they should spend time on that? It's not their obligation to do that because in the first place, I'm sure most of them didn't go that way but instead they worked for it that's why they achieved success.

Let these successful gamblers just enjoy where they are now. These newbie gamblers on the other hand should worked on their way up.

If I don't see gambling as a profitable one, then I should not be gambling in the first place. It's useless to stay on what you're doing when you don't even have faith on it. Those who fail to achieve profits in gambling are clearly not real gamblers, and they don't even know how to win an edge in gambling, most probably they are not patient enough to wait for their luck to favor on them.

Hearing disbeliefs from gamblers are actually normal, most especially for those who have suffered from consistent losses. But if they kept acting that way, I suggest they better stop gambling if they want to live without losses.

I believe that someone really wins big in gambling, it's true. There are successful people and I can also say that I am one of them because even if the winnings are small, as long as you win in gambling and avoid losing big, I can say that you are successful in gambling. Experience will shape you, help you win.

You are right, there are gamblers who have really won big in gambling and there are gamblers who have been successful but we will never know how much gambling capital they have spent gambling because gamblers tend to hide their total losses and they will show off low profits. However, my opinion is that successful gamblers have made high profits but they withdraw all the profits and still gamble within the limits of funds, they do not gamble on all types of gambling but focus on sports gambling that has been analyzed to have a high chance of winning, successful gamblers can also handle risk of loss and not force them to gamble if they feel hesitant to bet.

Yes, that makes sense. A different scenario would just keep him in the same situation, meaning he loses again after winning. There are gamblers who can win bets consistently, but I think the ratio is 1:1000, if there is one. All skill-based betting categories have a higher chance of winning than others, but to win all bets consistently they require 100% luck.

What do you mean, people who are successful in gambling are those who know how to control themselves? It's not necessary to win a large amount of money.
Yes, that's it. Even if you win big in gambling, you won't be a success if you don't know how to control yourself. I have seen people win big and continue to gamble with all the money they just won. And they lost everything. They even borrow money to continue wanting to get back the money they lost. I also won, and I bet big again. The result is no different. Therefore, successful people in gambling are those who know how to stop at the right time, no matter whether you win or lose.

And luck oftentimes can't be found around.  So this means that it is impossible to win consistently in gambling.  What is worse is that chance-based gambling solely rely on luck so we see people who are playing these chance-based games often deplete their bankroll and rarely wins huge amount of money.  I believe the trigger point to be on the positive end on gambling is the ability to control ones self and bankroll.

As we all know lossing in gambling is way more frequent but it can be recovered by a single huge win.  So controlling oneself and bankroll management is the key to keeping our gambling venture in the green side.  Know when to stop is the key.  If we feel luck is not on our side in our session, it is better call it a day than push things out.  This way we can minimize losses while maintaining a healthy bankroll.

That's not what I want to experience in gambling. With that kind of strategy, you rely so much on luck so you can win big and you'll be in profit, as for me, I like to enjoy a slow and consistent winning in gambling, but as what most people have shared, this doesn't happen to us, so I'm here trying to prove it's possible but only until I can show some proof.



Green side means profit for you? Well, bankroll management alone could not help, there's a lot more to consider particularly on being smart in choosing your bet, and of course choosing the right game for you.

It's important to keep in mind that gambling should not be a means to an end, but rather a pleasure. We are entering perilous territory the instant it becomes more than a game and less than a fun way to win large. Have you ever observed that experienced gamblers frequently have a cool, composed attitude? They understand that gambling is a journey rather than a sprint. Bankroll management is a lifeline, not just a tactic. It's critical to exercise strict financial discipline. Has the saying "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" ever occurred to you? That is relevant in this case. It's critical to diversify plays, establish clear boundaries, and stick to them. It's all about the long game, not about victories or loses in each session. Have you given any thought to establishing a win/loss cap for every session? It's a wise decision. You're not simply gambling by doing this; you're also planning. Making thoughtful decisions is important, not just winging it. Recall that knowing when to walk away is just as important as knowing when to play

Yes, getting slow wins is possible but it seems very difficult to get consistent wins. We know that winning is not easy so we don't need to hope too much to win. After all, we use gambling only as entertainment but if anyone continues to use gambling to make money, that is up to them and they have to bear the risk. But when we want to recover from defeat, we must realize it will be even more difficult because winning one game or match is not easy. So it's best to avoid trying to get consistent wins because it will be challenging. We should just enjoy the gambling game so we won't get frustrated if we lose.

If you seek to earn in gambling on a regular basis, you should not strive to do everything to get a big win. It is better to consistently get small winnings - it is through stability you can become a good player. Through stability develops a sense of confidence and calculation

I believe there are gamblers who are able to generate consistent income from gambling.
But the question is whether the amount of money he holds is enough to support the consistency of his game?
Most people hope to consistently win at gambling, then use the results to meet their living needs.
In my opinion, a consistent gambler is a gambler who has money specifically allocated for gambling, he will not use money for family needs and will not even use borrowed money.

Winning is not easy indeed, but with the right set of strategy and control of your bankroll it might happen, there are pro gamblers who manage to win and capable to repeat that same outcome, but for sure they also have some bad runs and they also lose along the way, what is good from them is they know when to stop and they will not exceed on it knowing that it will ruin everything.

Accept your losing session and move forward, try not to chase your losses during that session but instead, stop and re-assess your strategy then try to adjust to make it effective and allow you to win and recover little by little.

Chances or odds on winning in gambling would really be that definitely on what kind of type of gambling you are really that dealing with on which it cant really be that possible that you would really be able to take advantage or increasing out that odds of winning specially on luck based ones but totally relevant when you are dealing with strategic games on which it is something that could make things possible if you are really that mindful about these things and do know on what you are doing. Constant winning is something that being too delusional when it comes to gambling aspect.
If you do have this kind of mindset and thinking then you are just basically putting up yourself on such big trouble when it comes to finances considering that you would really be losing up that
much because of those false hopes.

I still don't understand the way some gamblers could be having a consistent winnings when they are playing than loosing, the more they are after winning they are indirectly chasing after loss and the more they may be loosing again, how has it been easy on having a consistent winnings by gamblers, making money in gambling is beyond what one can plan for, I think it's more of luck than we can put in an efforts for its achievements.

I agree that gambling moves between losing and winning and it is very difficult to accurately guarantee a win. This is why it is not right to ensure fixed income from the gambling platform in the world of gambling if luck is good just as winning is more profitable if a person becomes greedy and cannot control himself there will be more chances of losing than winning. High volatility games like gambling can lead to big wins but the wins are less frequent and the risk of losing is higher.

Yes, a professional gamblers, they can win from gambling compared to most gamblers. They have many things that most gamblers don't have, including better strategy and self-control so they can win. They also know when to stop gambling for a while so they can reduce the risk of losing money from gambling.

They can accept loss and will not pursue it because they know it will cost them even more money. They also know that after winning, they must immediately stop to reduce their emotions and tension. They will not chase wins anymore because that is also something that is not easy to obtain.

They can accept and not dwelling with their losses, instead they will try to re-assess and see if what adjsutment they needed to make their strategy works well for them, an expereineced gamblers most of the time knew that if they will push for more while in the losing streak they will just continue messing with their bankroll.

It's better to call for the day and forget about it, there's always a new day and a new session that they can try it again and who knows if luck will permit they can recover it little by little.

Experienced gamblers will not try harder at gambling because they know that it will only cost them more money. They will try gambling again on another day to see if their strategy can work and if it doesn't work, they will decide to try again on another day. They will adjust their strategy to the conditions on that day and only force themselves to look at other strategies if circumstances allow it.

They know how to behave when gambling. They also do not try to recover their losses due to errors in their strategy so they will just end their gambling game that day. They may not try gambling for a few days to think about other things that might be successful in the next gambling game.

You have well mentioned the difference between gamblers who have more winning than those on losing streak. To have a win you have to be a master of your emotions and understand that winning is real and losing is real so that when you are losing you don't have to think it is all wrong to lose and you start chasing back the loses. To chase loses is the reason for major failure in gambling but if you have that mindset of losing, you are sure to take it in good faith and look up to new opportunities.

They are smart enough to know when to act and when not to. To do better, you need to try smarter, not harder. The pros are different from the beginners in this way. Losses aren't chased; they're looked at. Like a surgeon, they look at their plans and try to figure out what went wrong and what could be done better. This isn't just gaming; it's a race in your mind. The really important thing is that taking breaks and rethinking tactics is not only smart, it's necessary. They aren't just leaving; they are reloading and readjusting. They don't just want to win when they come back; they have a better plan. The thrill, the rush, and the task of beating the game and themselves are what it's all about

I wish it's that easy. We stop now and try to evaluate our mistakes then come up with a new strategy and see if it work, that's what we do gamblers, most of us especially if we are playing on games that are skilled based, but do we really succeed? Answer is very obvious, no, most of us failed because choosing a winning bet is not the only key to succeed, there are also other factors that needs to be considered, and that includes a bankroll, yes, setting up a realistic bankroll is very important.

About bankroll, if we were able to set up a decent bankroll, the most challenging part is on how to manage it. If we are weak in controlling our emotion, that would lead to early wiping out of your money, you know, when you double and try to chase your losses, it usually end up losing everything.

Indeed, picking a winning bet isnt everything. Why? Because gaming is complex. We need financial management, emotional control, and strategic planning. Each is crucial to success or failure.

Bankroll is about management, not just amount. A large bankroll can swiftly disappear without discipline and foresight. This leads to emotional control. Without this talent, one may make hasty decisions like chasing losses. These behaviors quickly deplete finances.

Therefore, a holistic approach is vital, not just the strategy. We require competence, emotional intelligence, and financial prudence. Only then can we succeed in unpredictable gambling.

That's true, I have been gambling for over a decade now and I can say that when I start to lose, I just leave and do not really do anything about it. I get that it may feel like there isn't really anything that we could do about it, but that doesn't mean that we are not going to do it at all, we are going to have some hard time.

I personally believe that the best thing to do in this case would be something that may end up helping everyone all the same. I know that it is not going to be that easy, and I know that stopping is the hardest part of gambling, but that's just fine, we need to just arrange something that should benefit everyone all the same. I get that it is going to be quite difficult to handle, and we need to end up with a troublesome issue if we are not careful.

I do believe that leaving gambling is the most difficult thing to do for a gambling addict, that's why It should take time and do it slowly but surely. Also if a gambler is willing to leave gambling, they should set a timeline progress. We have different ways of getting out and freeing  from our problems and as long as you have your willingness to do, you can definitely overcome it when the time is right.

Successful gamblers who make profits through gambling have the right strategies and knowledge requirements for gambling. They've gathered a lot of experience in gambling and have mastered a few plans that may work out in gambling. The need to wager an amount of money is checked and they try big amounts at a time when the odds seem to be with them. Slot players whom I've read about their gambling journey didn't make much via gambling, instead, few competitions or raffle draws changed their game and made them successful gamblers in terms of money. While Op is right that many people have made a fortune in gambling and changed their livelihood, it's still great to warn people against such beliefs. Participating in gambling due to the success of another gambler has made lots of people addicts. Sending out good advice to gamblers not to repeat mistakes, that'll get them bankrupt isn't bad.

The pro gamblers have devised strategies that work for only them, and when shared with someone else it may not work. This means that gambling works for everyone differently. What works for me may not work for another gambler who wants to give it a try. Most of them also discuss with gamblers who have the same skill and vision as them and most time they're high bankers. They have lots of money to play gambling, yet maintain the rule of playing with little amount. While those who have little money to gamble disobey the rule and wager huge money and end up feeling bad or having a bad day. I learned from a pro that setting aside some funds to gamble more is great, that is staking money bit by bit until I'm able to gamble for at least 5 days, the same money other gamblers would spend in one day. Within 5 days and more of practicing the strategy, I'd be able to figure out how the slot machine works, and then devise or build my strategy from the experience.

That what experienced gamblers always do because they know that if they do it continuously and without any breaks to rest, their emotions can influence their minds and in the end the pursuit of victory to be able to get some money will definitely happen.
And things like this allow them to feel the losses are really getting bigger and in fact there have been many incidents like this that have happened.
Moreover, by stopping and trying to gamble in the future or the next day you can also maintain control to stay within the limits that have been set, losing money is the saddest thing, especially losing money just because of unreasonable ambition.

Experienced gamblers or professional gamblers always know how they should proceed in the future to minimize losses.
And experienced gamblers will of course prioritize financial stability rather than overdoing it or trying to recover losses when losses occur.

Talking about strategy, not all strategies can guarantee victory or success, but by having the right strategy, gambler can be more confident in his abilities.
But it is true that some games or bets require the right strategy and strategy like this cannot be had by all gamblers.

If you continue when things beyond your control or let just say luck is not really in your side for sure we can potentially waste a lot of money for that. This is why we need to know how to settle some things between our attitude or the way how we take some certain situations while playing so that we can easily leave once everything is not in our side.

Doing this might not easy since there are people ride with the flow since they are in climax playing their favorite games. But they really need to realize that they need to settle down on things they didn't expect since they need to think about how they can end up their session once they are starting to lose or already having a long losing streak.

Knowing our limits and controlling our emotions are the best things to do when gambling. We have to note that gambling doesn't give us money in real life but just experience, happiness, and sadness. If can do this, then I could say that nothing bad happened to us. Winning is not as easy as most people think and from the word itself - gambling means the results are uncertain (whether lose or win). Unfortunately and a very sad thing to hear many people gamble because of aiming to win the jackpot prize, not by making themselves enjoy the moment. We hope that they will realize it and know the meaning of gambling rather than chasing their luck and losing more.

Knowing when to stop, either if you are on the winning side or on the losing side, is very important. Such practice gives you that authority to keep your dominance in terms of emotions. It's a limit that you need to set up and needs to be followed by. Anyhow, failing in doing so will risk your bankroll, and most of the time it's the weakness of most gamblers, they can't resist the call of keep playing whether they are winning or losing a lot.


Realizing is your key to make sure that you will not overdo your gambling session, I mean, not to exceed to much and still allow you to minimize the possibility of losing your funds.

Yes, that's true, but on the other hand, there is only one thing that can make them exercise such limits and controls, namely a correct understanding of gambling along with a good level of awareness, because I think some controls and limits will not be able to be implemented if they don't Having a proper understanding or having a point of view is not advisable on gambling as it comes to earning. Basically it is very difficult to be able to do something like that if their main focus is winning, because I am sure they will always carry out experiments with quite high hopes and expectations.

That's right, on the other hand there is absolutely no certainty for anyone to make money just by gambling, I'm not saying that you won't make a full profit because maybe you can win on condition that you are lucky or luck comes your way in that session, but on the other hand The risk is much greater than the chance of winning, and one of the reasons is because only luck can bring you victory. So I think it would be unethical if you apply excessive behavior to something that basically has no certainty and guarantee, and as is often the case, you will just waste money and time.

The problem is that most gamblers can't stop after a few spins because they want to recover their losses or get even bigger wins. This makes them gamble more and more and don't care about how much money they use and many of them become addicted to gambling. They cannot spend all their money at once, especially for those who allocate a certain amount of money for gambling. If they can rest for a while after gambling, they will not lose control of themselves and can enjoy gambling as they should. Winning will come to them by itself and without their asking, so it will surprise them.

It should be easy for those who can control themselves well so that they will not experience gambling addiction and can stop easily. This all requires a new habit to be adopted where those of us who are used to what we do must really limit our gambling activities so that we don't experience any problems. It's difficult but that's what we have to do if we really want to avoid gambling addiction.

Setting a bankroll is important so that we stay within the limit and still have money that we can use to gamble another day. If we lose self-control, we will lose more money and we will become addicted to gambling.

Every experienced gambler will experience difficult times. But it depends on how we overcome it because there are still many gamblers who are unable to overcome it and instead get deeper into gambling. We really have to be able to stop gambling after gambling for a while so that we can avoid the problems that come.

If we are not willing to try, we will not be able to stop gambling easily. This is just about wanting to try to stop gambling or not wanting to stop even though it is all for our good so that we don't experience gambling addiction. We may believe we can win, but we must look at the situations and conditions when we gamble to see the reality. If we think there is no need to continue gambling, we should decide to stop gambling immediately before things get bad.

Yes, their emotions will definitely increase along with what they get in gambling and most of them will start to lose self-control so that they cannot control the use of their money. They must be able to stop gambling for a moment to avoid increasing emotions, which could influence their thoughts to continue gambling. They can suffer huge losses if they don't pay attention or don't know when to stop and they will only regret it after they finish gambling. By stopping gambling, they can take a break to lower their emotions and will not have the desire to chase bigger wins or recover from their losses. They can also think more clearly after they finish gambling and learn what mistakes they have made so that it will not affect them again the next day.

Experienced gamblers will indeed know what they should do when gambling and how to reduce their losses. They have learned from many sources and from their experience so they can know the actions needed to avoid greater losses. They also won't chase bigger wins because they know they could experience bigger losses.

There are many strategies needed to play gambling, but they still have to have good self-control so they don't experience big losses. They can apply many strategies but must maintain self-control because when playing gambling, they will encounter many temptations.

Excessive gambling put you in the place where you will continue to aim for more even in the time that you already make some from gambling but due to that mindset that you can win more, that's how excessive gambling comes in, it will push you to keep playing instead of stopping and controlling yourself.

Both winning or losing side you should have that mentality to kep your control over your emotions, most of those who thinks that they can
make steady profits ended with dissapointment as there's no one who can control result of each gambling session, it's your set limitation and ability to follow when it's time to stop.

True. Winning is a rare thing to happen for every gambler. Uncertain and mostly losses. I think I have made enough bets in casino games that I could say I've lost more of it than winning. It's not even near 20 percent of wins on my total amount of bets.
Well, trying to win the jackpot is also fun stuff. Before I was playing 3 lines only in a slot original game Tome of Life and I had my best moment on that game too. My largest multi-win was x1500 and I was so happy that I even shared it in the chatbox and most of them were surprised because that is too rare to happen. Then, I got another x500 which made me happier and after that, I only tried to lose 100 more bets before I withdrew everything.
It's a super lucky day for me that I cannot forget, but when I go back there and try it one more time, I cannot do it again. Most of the time it's a losing streak of like 50 bets without a hit and if ever it gives back it's not even 50 percent of what I lost.
The online gambling system has its own way of taking back from us. We won't mind the slow loss but if we add them all, the sum could be near what we have won recently.

That willingness part is what I can hold among all that you said. It is key and it is until the gambler is willing that his problem becomes half-solved. Gambling addiction is bad and I'm glad I am not always addicted, it only happened to me once and that was all. If you asked what helped me, it is just willpower and it was easy to let go. I was indeed willing to get out of the mess, and it was so easy for me because I have a mind of my own, to say the least. Everyone can build this too. Just like the OP, believing that you can be set free easily in gambling is the first issue that causes this, and trying to win back your lost bets is another problem.

Either way, a responsible gambler would have known and try his best to avoid them, and it is not a must that we follow the advice of others or go by the way of their plan as the OP wants. We should be Us and get to shun others, and this will be easier if we have all it takes to gamble and win as well. But if we lose, we should also know how to comport ourselves so that we will not misbehave whatsoever. It is enough for us to get back on the right track later and make the best bets thereafter. Gambling is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, and if you could make money from it, fine. But it is sad that people often engage in it wrongly and with the wrong mindset, which explains the spate of high losses in it these days.

Probably the best way to go is choosing games where you can have some kind of edge. Even if a small one
Usually these are skill games like poker or even sports betting
Consistently betting on things like plinko or slots is a recipe for disaster

If you don't have enough money to gamble and sustain your needs then it is something that you couldn't pull off.
The way I see it making a living from gambling or trading needs a huge amount of capital because we all know that we wouldn't always get a profit from it, we couldn't guarantee a consistent income from it.
There would always be a time that we would lose or couldn't make anything from it.
We are discouraging others to gamble or trade because not everyone is cut off to be in that profession or consider it as their main job.

Gambling can be enjoyable, but it's important to be aware of the risks involved. Just like drinking alcohol, it's easy to become addicted and end up losing a lot of money. To avoid any negative outcomes, it's important to set limits on how much money you're willing to win or lose while gambling. Remember, gambling should not be seen as a source of income because luck is not always on our side. Some people tend to bet higher amounts than they can afford, thinking they can consistently make money from gambling, but this is not a sustainable way to gamble. By setting limits, you can stay in control and prevent any problems from arising.

You play every game with the believe that you'll win, and if you don't win, you dust yourself and try again. There's no point in not being optimistic when doing something that is either win or lose.
There's a difference between believing you can win and having all your hope only on gambling. You'll quickly lose it all if you put all your hope into gambling. Believing you can win every time won't make you win every time because you don't win gambling based on your believe. You win based on your skills, analysis, and luck.

Gambling can be fun and at the same time a way to make money. I don't believe it should be a source of income. When you take gambling as a source of income, you will end up always chasing your losses and that can place you in a very bad situation.

A gambler can gamble and have the confidence to win, but he cannot force himself to continue gambling if he has not been able to win after gambling for a while. He must understand that if he cannot win at gambling, he should not continue gambling and should think about stopping gambling right away. It was all for his good because he wouldn't have any more money, especially after he had been gambling for a while. If he places a rather large bet, his deposited money will decrease, and he would be better off stopping immediately rather than losing all his money.

But gambling is not a place to make money because it is just one of the entertainment that uses money. We should not be too hard at gambling because we cannot always win at gambling. And rather than losing more money, we should limit the use of the money. After all, gambling is just an activity to fill our free time.

How is it that someone can even think of making gambling a steady source of income because I don't ever see the possibility of this, gambling wasn't designed to even let the public win at ease as it's a system that offers the actual owners of the casino more funds while you get back entertainment from it and nothing more, maybe sometimes rewards or when you get luck then the big jackpot. So saying or even thinking of making gambling a habit that can guarantee you successful wins is just a mirage of the highest order.

With such arguments, you'll see people that only see the bad gamblers think that they cannot make money. That's going to be their example and you're not going to win over those arguments because that's their proof of living that gambling is bad.

At first, they may sound right and you don't want to break their belief but when it gets too much. These people don't really gamble at all, they just like to backlash people that they see and are against to their belief.

With all of that, don't waste energy arguing with these people because even in other things. What they can only see are the bad sides of it because of irresponsible people that does those activities.

I think that those people/gamblers won't say that, if they never experienced it themselves. But there may be a few number who just go with flow/current in which they just follow what the majority are saying but the truth is they are not really a gambler. They are only here in this board posting for the sake of meeting their requirements for the gambling campaign that they have joined. I like them.

I mean I'm also a gambler, and I mostly experience a loss rather than a win, but don't worry OP, I still believe on you when you say that there are people who achieve a success in gambling. Their numbers are only low though, but the point is, it is possible. It only needs a lot of effort (trial and error) and maybe a massive amount of luck. A lot of people don't have that quality, and they think others too, or they want others to not face those difficulties, so they just say that someone shouldn't hope too much in gambling.

Usually the gamblers are not disciplined and therefore they know that it s not possible to make consistent income in gambling. Others who are disciplined also know that consistent income in gambling is not possible because everything depends upon the luck.

No matter how much discipline you are if there is no luck on your side then of course you will not be able to gain any big significent profit. I think if any gambler is able to mentally satisfy himself that he can incurr loss or he can make profits and if this thing is pre plan in his mind then of course there will be no stress if he gambles and loses.

I think we all know the fact that gambling is just entertainment for rich people, it is not a place that can make someone rich let alone make it a source of income for those in the lower middle class, those who think of gambling because they want money and big wins. will definitely keep trying to pursue it in the end without any real results getting nothing but defeat.

Everyone has the right to choose what they want to gamble for, but be aware that many victims have lost a lot of money and property just because they are addicted to gambling which makes them play recklessly and irresponsibly, it is important to think again that gambling is not the right place to be. looking for money, change that ancient mindset by making gambling just entertainment for fun, it's better.

We can not be making consistent profits as a gambler. Gambling is very addictive and we need to ensure we are doing the right thing for us to be making consistent profits from the market. We can not be making consistent profits from betting looking at the nature of gambling and how difficult it is to be making profits from the industry. For us to be making consistent profits from the market, then we must be doing the right thing. We must have the luck that would be attracting profits for us. This is one of the ways we can improve ourselves and long for making consistent profits from the market.

It doesn’t matter whether you’re happy or not, but there are different points of view. First of all, what do you call success? Secondly, at first there was a question: is there anyone who makes STABLE money from gambling, and then you said who was successful. I think that earning consistently is much harder than achieving one-time but major success. The whole difficulty lies in the fact that no matter how disciplined, calculating and cold-blooded you are, there are many factors in gambling that do not depend on you.
And the most important argument for me is that I don’t know a single successful gambler. This doesn't mean that they don't exist, but it means that if they exist, there aren't that many of them.

What you mean by this is that you want to create a thread that doubles as an echochamber because not welcoming contradictory opinions is just weird to me and your opinion clearly has holes in it that you probably know already that's why you're creating this thread which is a success for you. My two cents on the issue though, gambling isn't a 9 to 5 job that you can consistently make money, there's days where it's losses and those days are more frequent than your winning days no matter how "optimist" you are about making money in gambling.
Exactly this isn't a source of income, it should be considered as an entertainment and thus should be treated as one because once you deviate from that, it's over for you, you will never be able to play for fun and your overall vibe will be irritable because you're trying to achieve something that only a few if not no one can achieve which is making money in gambling as if you're just doing a blue or white collar job.

For most people, success in gambling is being able to make a lot of money one or several times by gambling, but some people say that success in gambling is how they can control themselves when gambling. But to make stable money from gambling, I think it will never be easy because people will experience losses more often than they will win. So they will be far from being successful even though they still want to get more wins by depositing more money to be able to win lots of games. That's different from how it will happen because gamblers will encounter losses more often so they won't be able to make money consistently. People who can make money from gambling do exist, but unfortunately, not many of them succeed, while other people only experience bigger and bigger losses. Plus, people who are successful at making money from gambling don't tell people about it so we probably won't meet them.

It is a drug.That what it becomes to the people who keep coming back to gambling,they may pass a very happy day with their family like in these days of vacations yet they don't consider it a happy day if they don't gamble during that day no matter if they win or lose they need to have that "drug" and as such most people already know that they can't win consistently.

It is very difficult to become disciplined and to stop gambling,I am personally fighting to stop it yet the casino where I play keeps throwing to me bonus after bonus and I will continue to play until I finish them,then it is a stop or at least I will try hard to stop.

There is a saying where I live now "who have seen the benefits of gambling except casino owners so stop gambling right away" and this saying comes from a Balkan country where people look like they are pathological gamblers.

I think that what we are all looking for in life is to enter a Casino and get Constant profits , what we are really looking for, but it is very difficult, if what we do is generate many things, possibilities and have hope, now when the Objectives They are not given , we have to accept things as they are, first because they are options that we have to generate money Intelligently , a casino will always have the house advantage and as long as that continues , the house Advantage will be something unique and it is difficult for us as players to beat it, in this order of days things are always like this when we do any type of thing so that it can be very effective, in the casino the effective things when there is no luck can be seen very bad, for that reason we have to be quite good at knowing how to play, if we play in an uncontrolled way what we will end up with is that our game will be very affected and we will lose money.

As long as we have options to win by Doing Anything , it is acceptable , people are not blamed for doing whatever, as long as it is within the rules and respecting the rules, otherwise I would not see it well at all, personally I Would not I think there is someone who has constant profits, and if there is in the world, I think it Could be 1 or 2 People , but this is based on the Degree of Luck, I don't think there is a person who wins every time they come in to play , The truth is I don't see it existing, however when we are thinking about things that may be Possible , well yes, that possibility may be possible, I have Always Said that when a person is in these times Looking for things that happen, then you have I have to see broadly what can Happen for him if it is positive, on the other hand we have to accept certain defeats, but if the general balance at the end of the day is Positive , then I think things are going in the Right Direction.

Individual gamblers has their personal view about gambling but I must say that gambling  is not an assured not money making venture, no matter your mindset, if you win as a gambler just believe that it was meant to happen, no matter how optimistic you are in gambling, you will lose and win that's just it, not being skeptical people make many through gambling but before they start making this money, they might have lost many times trying to win, the only strategy I have applied in gambling that has helped me to win severely times, this was in soccer bet, this strategy is to single my bets and staking it with a high amount of money, after this bets I will win two or more slips out of the stakes.

Most gamblers do not believe they can consistently make money.

I believe we can make money as an investor so there is a couple of gambling site like bitvest or moneypot that give an option to their user to invest on their site. So I can consider this as a profit and make money consistently.

You are not the only one that has discovered taking a single bet on soccer can be better than making accumulated bets on a single ticket can increase your winning chances because it is what more bettors do now and they increase their staking power to make the potential to increase but on the other hand also, it is quite risky to increase stake like that if you don't have the capacity for it. I have seen bettors also losing hugely because they over increased their staking power and they express regret when they lose. So betting is basically a win lose situation.

Gambling is risky and a gambler must take risks otherwise he cannot gamble. The gambler can find pleasure in taking this risk, but he must bet as much as he can afford to lose. A gambler will enjoy gambling as long as he gambles within his capability. This is where you start getting hurt whenever it turns into an addiction. A common mistake in gambling is that gamblers start thinking of it as a source of income and then become addicted and start betting beyond their ability. Since it is uncertain, even if they win on one or two bets, they lose all their money on the next bet. So the gambler must conduct gambling within a limit without getting too greedy.

In most cases, after a good winning streak, a gambler think that way. treating gambling as a good source of income and aggressively throws money in hope that they can continue repeating the outcome but eventually it won't turn into their favor as gambling was design to make money and not as a charity to give gambler a bread and butter place in making profits.

It's always a must that before you take your chance you should have that mentality, knowing the grounds of addiction and how possible it is to happen to you, if you just use money that you can afford to lose, then it's just a normal way of gambling where you can simply move forward after your session ends.

That's why it is advisable to gamble without high expectation of winning. So that even the outcome is not good, you can just easily move on and not dwelling on what happened. If you can do this as a gambler then you can't become addicted since your main desire is not to make money when playing. Because a mindset of making money through gambling is not wise since you're too attached to have a positive outcome. But if you able to profit without expectation, it's more satisfying. Being a gambler who wager in games doesn't give consistent earnings unless you have other ways like as an investor or an owner of a casino.

It's a fact that gamblers cannot win consistently, no need to believe, as Op said. The results we see people post is as a result of long-time involvement in gambling. Then they get a reward, which covers their losses and encourages them to gamble more. These days we need to note the importance of gambling in different ways. Gambling is not a means of earning morning all the time. We need to follow some routine as gamblers to enjoy gambling. Good you compared gambling to alcohol addiction. This plays in similar ways, without gambling being a substance that we inhale or take into our body system, it has some effects on the brain still. A gambler who follows the advice of OP, who only said this due to the way he's seeing people win in gambling but doesn't refer to his personal experience, would be undergoing some problem gambling.

Those who have such belief and trust in gambling need to change their perspectives and gamble for other good things gambling can offer which can yield us money in the outside world. Money management, critical thinking, and self-control, all consist of those skills we can learn in gambling and implement it in another part of life and earn money. CEOs and top managers in the USA, mostly gamble to obtain these skills and use them in their companies or businesses to outsmart other competitors in their field or niche. Hence, it's crucial that other gamblers also learn from these strategies. Since the odds are against the gambler luck is not mainly on the side of the gambler, but the house. Gamblers should look into what else to gain through gambling other than money. While waiting for any day luck appeared to be on their side, the gambler should enjoy the process. That doesn't mean the player should be reckless, he still needs to have time management skills in controlling how long he spends each day gambling.

Your idea correlate with the idea of responsible gambling and gambling what you can afford to loose. Gambling with amounts that's you are not comfortable loosing will put you at more risk than when you gamble with an amount that you don't find really significant and if lost you will not get emotional about it and not get into trouble aswell.

Reducing your expectations on games you are gambling on is another way of keeping your mind in check. Once the desire to make money gambling sets in, that's the point where loosing becomes endless because you don't get to be rational enough at some point and one fact is this it's almost impossible to consistently gamble without getting to the point where you expect yourself to make money gambling. But then it's possible to still stay out of addiction regardless of your quest to make money especially when you aren't desperate trying to make money gambling.

Yeah, gambling's appeal is often misconstrued. It's a gamble, not a reliable income source. Lets not glorify CEOs and managers who gamble for critical thought and risk assessment. The exception, not the rule. Your remark concerning gambling's addiction is correct. Mental traps imprison the brain with false hopes. Gamblers generally chase losses and get worse. Repeat: gambling is enjoyment, not a financial plan.

Leveraging gambling for personal growth is tough. It can teach patience, strategy, and money management. These skills are a side effect, not the primary course. Gamblers should be aware of the risks and play responsibly. Remember, the house always wins. Be clever but safe.

You are right that there are more possibilities of sudden success in gambling than constantly winning because you can't keep winning all the time because it's based on luck. There is also the house edge that eventually gives the house an advantage over the gambler if it's about gambling games. Some people think that they can use strategies and stuff to win in gambling games or recover their losses but that doesn't work, strategies like martingale are a recipe for disaster.

However, when we talk about sports betting, there are more chances of winning in that area of gambling because the results are not completely dependent on luck. One can win more bets than they might lose if they have enough knowledge and experience about the games they are betting on.

Be realistic is best and yes its possible some people can make money but nobody makes money on every bet its just a hope that on average across a days betting you can make a profit. Do that enough times and you can argue its a regular profit.    I just dont think  its easy at all, anyone who does think its easy is likely to make a misstep or misjudge the risk and lose money.   Most realistic true thing I can say is  that every bet every game has a cost to play that game, to make a profitable bet you pay that fee then make a profit possibly, judging the best value bets is I think the only way to make a profit overall.   I dont have that level of skill personally, to judge value perfectly and grab the odds worth taking refusing the bad value bets takes alot imo.

Random chance plays a significant role that makes it possible for for people to win at the first bet but difficult to maintain a winning streak over an extended period. The mathematical advantage ensures that the house is more likely to come out ahead in the long run, even if individual players experience short-term success. Strategies may seem promising in theory, but the unpredictability of gambling outcomes and the house edge make it challenging to sustain success through systematic approaches.

Unlike casino games, sports betting involves a level of skill and knowledge about the teams or events being wagered on. The assertion that one can win more bets than they lose with sufficient knowledge and experience indicates the influence of informed decision-making in sports betting. Sports betting allows individuals to make informed predictions based on factors such as team performance, player statistics, and other relevant information.

Even if I do think that the majority of those that got addicted to gambling did so because at the beginning they were looking to make profits with it, at the same time we cannot discount the possibility there are many people which eventually found themselves in that condition because they enjoyed the games so much that even if they did not care at all about the profits they could get, that was more than enough for them to develop an addiction.