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Title: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 26, 2023, 11:34:41 AM
  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members, however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
  It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Who is John Galt? on November 26, 2023, 12:31:28 PM
I would say that haste is generally very rarely useful. It is clear that you need to try to get used to the forum if you want to communicate on it, because you are joining an already existing community with its own rules. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

But here you are talking about opening up the earning opportunities that Bitcoin offers. But in this, too, haste can lead to the fact that you may not earn, but lose. It is important to understand everything and only then begin to act actively.

So the call to take your time is good in almost any undertaking.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Churchillvv on November 26, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
A major fact that applies to life in general that most people have refused to adhere to is "Everything has time" this does not only work here but in life generally, but in the case of Bitcointalk forum newbies are mostly found rushing to meet up with some who have been here for a long time.

Maybe it could a caused by the circumstances in which they heard about forum, like someone introducing the forum as a place they can earn instead of learn thereby omitting the L, Hence they start trying to rank up in order to start earning. Undermining the fact that people who are ranked up spent a very long time to learn and as a result of lessons learnt they ranked up. For the purpose of rushing to rank up has led to different negative results some could be positive if they took corrections but some negative due too spamming and other fact like plagiarism etc.

To any newbie who might be reading, stay positive and use the search button regularly and find answers to what you wish to learn. The forum have lasted over a decade and more so almost everything you which to talk about has been talk about so to avoid things like plagiarism search if it has been treated and grow gradually.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: EL MOHA on November 26, 2023, 03:40:20 PM
To any newbie who might be reading, stay positive and use the search button regularly and find answers to what you wish to learn. The forum have lasted over a decade and more so almost everything you which to talk about has been talk about so to avoid things like plagiarism search if it has been treated and grow gradually.

The first advice should be treat it as free place where you need to learn and maybe later help others on some difficulties. Just has you said almost everything has been treated before but still you will see some threads still getting merits because of the efforts newbies put out to that thread. The thing that gets most newbie either finding it hard to rank up or not later got caught for plagiarism is by teaching what they don’t know.

Ranking up doesn’t mean you need to create threads everyday, your posts can get you the merits you need ti rank once you learn properly first.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Amphenomenon on November 26, 2023, 05:35:07 PM
Ironically almost all Newbies wants to rank up and earn and with their vague knowledge will later opt to using Ai in creating post or  plagiarising, which when they are account are usually banned or given a negative tag. Those who later persevere to learn here will later earn and achieve things they never expected.
Everyone we have gotten inspiration from where one time learners because you don't give what you don't have. fillippone, is among those that has inspired me here, I Thank God I saw this post and from then it changed me for the better Re: Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333.msg63052240#msg63052240). Gain the knowledge then ranking up is easy


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: 2girls on November 26, 2023, 06:09:59 PM
  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members, however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
  It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.

Merit is not all the thing. But is the useful in the forum. We can't say that we didn't need merit and it is of no use.

Still we can gain information through these forums even if we didn't have a single merit also we can join various talks and discussions and get our own benefits through these topics which we need.

My trading knowledge was so weak at the start but then I started to joining these forums discussions and now I'm almost aware most of the things that is to be done through the forums.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on November 26, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
People have different learning ability, some are fast learners some are quite slower learners so it depends on the individual, I believe in personal growth and if we are truthfully we all know how our growth level in the forum has come up but greed and hunger to earn has forced many to go faster than their comprehension.

My suggestion is keep learning I don't care what your brain capacity is but consistency on the path to knowledge would definitely bear fruit at the end.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: SatoPrincess on November 26, 2023, 08:20:08 PM
These threads are helpful but I doubt newbies pay any attention to them. It’s just full member and other high rank discussing on this thread.  There are plenty threads guiding newbies how to act on the forum. But all are ignited because newbies want to rank up as fast as possible, that’s every newbie’s goal. I don’t think it’s about signature campaigns or bounties that motivates the drive to rank up. They want to discard the newbie title and feel like a part of the community. I believe it’s a ego thing.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Japinat on November 26, 2023, 08:42:36 PM
Learning does not happen in an instant. Some may even take years before they can say that they are well-knowledgeable on the forum. There's always a process and always know that this process is never easy but certainly hard and tough but you can always learn to enjoy the process while its giving you handful of information and is making you on top of others, even though competition is not encourage in the forum.

The only reason I think why people rush their learning in the forum is because of their greed to make quick and early profits. But once they get there, all they experience is frequent losing that they're even advised to get back to the basic and learn patiently.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: uchegod-21 on November 26, 2023, 08:43:05 PM
The truth is, many newbies joined the Bitcointalk forum just to make money and not with the pure intent of learning or contributing to the growth of the forum. This explains the reason for the rush. They want to quickly catch up with the reason they joined the forum in the first place. This can be risky as they may end up going against the forum rules and of course we know this comes with consequences.

A newbie is supposed to be a novice,  someone who has very little or no knowledge about a particular field they've just entered. The right thing to do at this point is to learn first. What ever notion you joined the forum with needs to kept aside first for you to give way for self development. Open your mind to learning then merits and ranks will come naturally.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Marvelman on November 26, 2023, 09:21:31 PM
Yes. It's kind of funny how most newbies here want to move up quick and make money. I've seen it happen a bunch of times.  Folks join with such big dreams but limited skills.  They want success fast, so they cheat.  After facing consequences some leave frustrated while others decide to put in the effort to grow legitimately.  And later, goes to show hard work pays off eventually.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Nwada001 on November 26, 2023, 10:22:09 PM
I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Ruttoshi on November 27, 2023, 02:26:56 PM
This forum is like you are in a school to study, where you are to start from the least class to learn the basics and also to read on your own for proper understanding so that you can improve yourself. It is impossible for you to start rushing in school, for instance because you want to become a nurse, and you know that after you have graduated, there is job sown awaiting you and you decided to only attend the first semester without proper seriousness and you don't care about attending the second semester and you want to jump to year three. It will be impossible.

This is impossible because learning and promotion is a gradual process or else you will have nothing to show that you went to school. The forum is a place for one to grow gradually and your growth is based on what you have learnt, because when you don't dedicate some of your time to learn, you will not grow. Newbies should put making money first in their mind because this will be a big distraction to them and they wouldn't want to stay focus to learn but rather they will be looking for every means to get merits without improving themselves so that the merits can start flowing in.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: hugeblack on November 27, 2023, 02:42:15 PM
Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly. If the price rises to more than $100,000 during the next 16 months, then every dollar you invest now may be worth $4 in the future, and you can easily buy Bitcoin again at the bottom of the current cycle, therefore, for every beginner, signature campaigns are appropriate at the end of each cycle and after the price begins to correct, and it is not good as bitcoin Halving approaches.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on November 27, 2023, 02:55:33 PM
Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly. If the price rises to more than $100,000 during the next 16 months, then every dollar you invest now may be worth $4 in the future, and you can easily buy Bitcoin again at the bottom of the current cycle, therefore, for every beginner, signature campaigns are appropriate at the end of each cycle and after the price begins to correct, and it is not good as bitcoin Halving approaches.

Agreed, but they can do both at the same time. If they are newbies now, they can use the forum responsibly without worrying too much about climbing the ranks but doing it little by little nonetheless, and also save what they can to invest in bitcoin and take advantage of the bull run. I think it's completely compatible.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 27, 2023, 05:06:51 PM
Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly.
But does most of us have that kind of money to invest? I don't think so. Personally I don't. Bitcointalk has users from all over the world. And you'll be surprise to know that, in some parts of the world people are sustaining their family only throughout the signature campaign. If I were in America or Canada or other developed countries 150$/week would be a mere pocket money for me (just saying you know), but if I were in a developing country like Bangladesh for me, 150$/month is a massive amount for me. For this reason, users from lower income countries tends to rank up rushing and joins signature campaigns. My point of view.  ;)


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Ndabagi01 on November 27, 2023, 07:36:10 PM
  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members

The intention with which you first arrive at a place will determine how you act in that place.  However, if you seek to learn deeply, you will discover that there are other things more important to know about than what brought you there. The knowledge one can gain in this forum cannot be overstated; it is a school full of knowledge and reliable information to help you become a better bitcoin enthusiast. When you're open to learning frequently, you just have to love the forum as time passes.

Instead of trying to quickly rank-up your account to join signature campaigns,  currently it is best for all newbies to find a way to buy Bitcoin quickly.
But does most of us have that kind of money to invest? I don't think so. Personally I don't. Bitcointalk has users from all over the world. And you'll be surprise to know that, in some parts of the world people are sustaining their family only throughout the signature campaign. If I were in America or Canada or other developed countries 150$/week would be a mere pocket money for me (just saying you know), but if I were in a developing country like Bangladesh for me, 150$/month is a massive amount for me. For this reason, users from lower income countries tends to rank up rushing and joins signature campaigns. My point of view.  ;)

As you have stated, this is correct. But I think what he's trying to say is that if they can invest some money in it, they'll be able to reap a bigger profit later than they would have gotten from a signature campaign altogether their stay there. If they have another source of money and can invest as little as possible in bitcoin, ranking up should be their secondary goal while first learning how to keep their bitcoin investments safe while learning that from exploring the forum.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 27, 2023, 09:04:13 PM
I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.
   Very true, some even lack the patience of working hard to build their profile, and those that are money driven will head up making irrational mistakes thereby putting their account in jeopardy. There are due process in following up the forum. With gradual progress and guidance you will end up making it to the top of the forum. The forum is more of just being yourself and sharing your ideas. Everyone has a different opinion to the view of things, we come here to share those opinions educate ourselves as well.
   Newbie should be more about learning the basics of the forum instead of being money driven. Understand your way around the forum. The Do’s and Don’t of the forum, and not just being everywhere. Personally I feel like we all had a Guardian one way or the other giving us helpful tips about the forum. We definitely have those who personally take it upon themselves to guide the newbie, answering what ever questions they might be having trouble with. It is important for newbie to understand that they can’t  skip the process, they just need to follow the trend.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Abu-Naim on November 27, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
It all depends on your orientation before to joining this forum, which I am sure determined your aim on this forum. In certain countries, the economic situation is quite poor, with no work for graduates and no money for upkeep, thus in quest of anything to do, some people stumble across this forum, possibly through someone or the internet. Usually, the intention is to learn bitcoin so that you do not get scammed, but when you see people making money from the forum through signature campaigns and other means, knowing that you are looking for a way to make money, you will want to join them, which is why you start looking for ways to rank up and get more exposure to start earning as others.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: TimeTeller on November 27, 2023, 09:24:03 PM
It all depends on your orientation before to joining this forum, which I am sure determined your aim on this forum. In certain countries, the economic situation is quite poor, with no work for graduates and no money for upkeep, thus in quest of anything to do, some people stumble across this forum, possibly through someone or the internet. Usually, the intention is to learn bitcoin so that you do not get scammed, but when you see people making money from the forum through signature campaigns and other means, knowing that you are looking for a way to make money, you will want to join them, which is why you start looking for ways to rank up and get more exposure to start earning as others.

For newcomers who can't easily rank up as it is quite difficult now because of the merit system,
do remember that there are other ways to earn money aside from participating in sig campaigns.
If you have other skills such as programming, being a graphic artists and others (as you can see in services section),
you can also look for those opportunities and offer what you think you can do.
It may be hard from the start but as you build your portfolio, people will look for you and ask for your services.
Also, there is trading, staking or mining that you can venture but definitely, you need to learn also on how to do these things.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Adbitco on November 27, 2023, 10:25:12 PM
The major problem newbies are facing nowadays is that they don't want to study and devotes their time in making research about an entity or what they are about putting interest. What they does is that, they want to start teaching like their teachers and handle things the ways their teacher always does without knowing it took them time to have that basic standard. Patient they said is a key to success because when we developed them it really helps in terms of decision making and how often we tends to know everything without knowing the basics that they needed to know.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 27, 2023, 10:33:56 PM
For newcomers who can't easily rank up as it is quite difficult now because of the merit system,
do remember that there are other ways to earn money aside from participating in sig campaigns.
If you have other skills such as programming, being a graphic artists and others (as you can see in services section),
you can also look for those opportunities and offer what you think you can do.
It may be hard from the start but as you build your portfolio, people will look for you and ask for your services.
Also, there is trading, staking or mining that you can venture but definitely, you need to learn also on how to do these things.
  Thanks for sharing this piece of information, this is the sole purpose of the thread to pass information for newbies to follow. The forum is a broad place and due to its proximity may seem ambiguous for some to understand. This shouldn’t discourage you, instead make it a thing to learn something new from the forum everyday. With that you can see how progressive you’ve become.  There are lot of opportunities the forum is bringing not just earning and getting merit, we learn and get information here to as well.
 There's a saying that no knowledge is à waste, and it's also applicable in the forum, cause the things you learn as a newbie on here would guide you through your journey here in the forum. And on the long run after you've gained enough knowledge, you'll begin to earn, instead of rushing to earn before learning.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: serjent05 on November 27, 2023, 10:56:52 PM
With the features and requirements of ranking up, no one can haste their way into ranking up.  First there is this called activity where an account has a minimum requirement of activity before ranking up, then second is the merit requirement where an account needs to have the required merit to rank up. Meeting the two conditions to rank up, I believe is enough time for an account to know more about the forum, its rules, and how the forum works.

There is actually no reason to rush things because an account cannot be promoted to a Hero account overnight, while getting promoted to legendary is like a lottery draw where one needs to be lucky to trigger the promotion when the minimum requirement is met.

@OP is correct that we don't need to rush things to rank up because it can't be hastened due to the minimum requirements needed for ranking up.  Best a newbie can do is to focus on learning than creating threads with recycled topics (thread that had previously been discussed or threads with the same topic) to teach other members.



Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 28, 2023, 09:22:22 AM
These threads are helpful but I doubt newbies pay any attention to them. It’s just full member and other high rank discussing on this thread.
😂 You know that stuff they say in our local parlance about old people not being comfortable when bones are mentioned? That's the situation here. Newbies know they're being talked about here and may not feel comfortable contributing here. It's not as if they haven't stumbled on this topic.

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I don’t think it’s about signature campaigns or bounties that motivates the drive to rank up. They want to discard the newbie title and feel like a part of the community. I believe it’s a ego thing.
Well, I think it's more of the drive to rank up so they can get into campaigns that drives them; not the ego thing. This is why we tend to see newbies slow down a bit once they're able to rank up and get into Bitcoin paying campaigns. I don't think anyone will feel inferior here when it's an anonymous gathering place. Those who do should know they've a greater problem than ego.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on November 28, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
Glad to know your story! I guess I have learned many things from this forum. The forum helped me understand how Bitcoin works and why privacy is important. Which wallet should I use, what is an open-source wallet, what is its benefit, why should we not use centralized exchanges, and why is it essential to use our wallets that give private keys/seed phrases?

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: royalfestus on November 28, 2023, 12:28:18 PM
It is difficult for those in areas with rare jobs and bad currencies to make money on the forum, whereas it is simple for those in better regions to learn about investing and investigation from the forum. Sadly, only a few of the projects (old and new) have representatives at the forum.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Nheer on November 28, 2023, 01:01:39 PM
When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members
You have to take one step at a time to achieve anything in life successfully, and the same has been proven on this forum. As a new member, if you act hastily to move up the ranks and possibly make money from campaigns, you could be doing more harm to yourself than you realise. Instead, you should try to follow the proper procedures to avoid negative consequences down the road. Taking shortcuts could lead to breaking the law and making wrong choices. The forum is no exception, in order to be productive here, it is important to take your time and not rush into things; gaining knowledge should be your top priority if you want to be productive before partaking in anything. Having the necessary knowledge will make your path easier, yet many newcomers consider it as a waste of their time.

OP What you did was the best thing to do because rushing to earn a merit without knowing anything is a huge waste of time, therefore it is better to redirect your energy and effort into acquiring knowledge.

however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
As you begin your journey, you will grow more comfortable and enjoy what the community has to offer. There will come a time when you will become so accustomed to the forum that it will be difficult for you to spend an hour offline. The forum is a great place to learn about bitcoin-related topics as well as some topics unrelated to bitcoin. Though new members find it difficult to understand the forum offers much to us. However, they won't realise this until they eventually take the brave decision to seek knowledge rather than being desperate to move up the ranks.

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
Funny folks, they think they know so much about cryptocurrency and wallets that they will even confidently recommend exchange wallets as the safest wallet. I was also a member of a Telegram group where someone else gave the same advice and continued by suggesting that group members could keep as many coin as they desired on Binance that is the best wallet choice. Before I joined the forum and learned they weren't the safest, I used to believe them. My understanding of cryptocurrencies has greatly increased thanks to Bitcointalk, and I am happy to have joined this forum. I will always be grateful of all that this forum has taught me.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Winterfrost on November 28, 2023, 01:40:17 PM
I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.
   Very true, some even lack the patience of working hard to build their profile, and those that are money driven will head up making irrational mistakes thereby putting their account in jeopardy. There are due process in following up the forum. With gradual progress and guidance you will end up making it to the top of the forum. The forum is more of just being yourself and sharing your ideas. Everyone has a different opinion to the view of things, we come here to share those opinions educate ourselves as well.
   Newbie should be more about learning the basics of the forum instead of being money driven. Understand your way around the forum. The Do’s and Don’t of the forum, and not just being everywhere. Personally I feel like we all had a Guardian one way or the other giving us helpful tips about the forum. We definitely have those who personally take it upon themselves to guide the newbie, answering what ever questions they might be having trouble with. It is important for newbie to understand that they can’t  skip the process, they just need to follow the trend.
You have spoken well. It is obvious if a person rrues to mimic someone or fake his persona for the sake of opportunities and progress. Certainly he cant be successful at doing that. People will accept you for who you are, correct you for saying things that they feel are wrong and also advise or share opinions to things you do not have much knowledge about. This is how the forum was built.

Slow and steady wins the race should be understood in this case. This means doing what is right in a more consistent manner, thereby winning the race at last rather than doing things the wrong way and last falling of track.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on November 28, 2023, 02:28:12 PM
I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
Funny folks, they think they know so much about cryptocurrency and wallets that they will even confidently recommend exchange wallets as the safest wallet. I was also a member of a Telegram group where someone else gave the same advice and continued by suggesting that group members could keep as many coin as they desired on Binance that is the best wallet choice.

You will be surprised to know that when I tell them the difference between Binance and the wallet like electrum and why electrum is better than exudos, they laugh at me and start to criticize saying Binance in the market for a long time and they try to convince me saying it's trusted enough to store million dollar worth of crypto because others also using it.

I have even saw that people holding over $100 at Binance and when I tell him "bro, you should use non-custodial wallet". He said "No, thanks". I wish them to bring in a community and teach them these things. But I cannot force them.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 28, 2023, 07:18:24 PM
Glad to know your story! I guess I have learned many things from this forum. The forum helped me understand how Bitcoin works and why privacy is important. Which wallet should I use, what is an open-source wallet, what is its benefit, why should we not use centralized exchanges, and why is it essential to use our wallets that give private keys/seed phrases?

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
   I’m glad you are able to use the forum to your advantages, after all that is what the forum is meant to be for, to impact and enlighten people with little or more knowledge you know about bitcoin and the general thing they need to know about the forum at large. The forum is called Bitcointalk for a reason. Here we learn and share ideas about bitcoin related issues and the economy at large. I believe with your engagement in the forum you can have the upper hand and confidence to represent yourself.
  The forum gives us this extra boost and insight, not everyone is privileged to be part of the forum thus missing out on some important detail information about the crypto space. We ought to use the forum to our advantage and learn as much knowledge as possible, it doesn’t only implies to the newbies only but to general forum members cause learning is a constant process and in life we learn everyday, like wise here in this space as well, it’s a good thing you’ve used the knowledge you’ve acquired to impact others outside the bitcointalk community, it show how devoted you were in learning and now you’re ripping from the good benefits and I hope Newbies seeing your statement would take note and stay focused in learnin to grow and get better.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Issa56 on November 28, 2023, 10:34:47 PM
  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members
It's better that you realized your lapses early and corrected your mistake. If you are here to learn, then you can also make money on forum with time, there is joy in learning and making money, but most newbies don't want to learn, they just want to make money. Most people are just here because of money, some of them don't even care to know what the forum is all about, they just have the belief that immediately they join, they will start making money. They don't care to go through the forum rules and regulations to know what the forum is against. That's why most newbies always end up plagiarizing, they just copy from other places without adding source thinking they can easily receive merit if they do that.

If you are too desperate to get merit, don't be surprised that you won't be getting it. But if you are posting freely just to make a contribution to the forum, don't be surprised, that's when you will start receiving merit. Just make your own impact on the forum, and you can also learn here, with time you will be able to rank up your account.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: icalical on November 29, 2023, 02:42:24 AM
back in my earliest day in this forum, before merit system is applied and there are not many signature campaign that paid in Bitcoin like now, I never thought about forum ranks, I came to this forum to earn some money and find some job actually, but I never really thought about forum ranks. The newcomers nowadays is immediately exposed to signature campaign with quite good payment and it increasing along with their forum ranks, that's what motivate them rushing to get higher rank.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Luffygroove on November 29, 2023, 06:45:14 AM
Many of us discover this forum with the hope of earning money through activities like airdrops or bounties. It can be overwhelming for newcomers who may feel lost amidst numerous threads, unsure where to begin. Some, driven by a desire for quick gains, might skip reading guidelines and directly ask questions. However, success here is tied to our intentions. Newcomers focusing solely on monetary gains may find short-term benefits, but those embracing the community spirit and understanding the forum's rules are likely to have a more enduring and faster growth. It's about balancing intention with engagement for a fruitful and lasting experience.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on November 29, 2023, 07:32:48 AM
 When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members,

To be honest, if you are in a rush to make money without having the necessary knowledge, you won't be able to make money through Bitcoin for very long. However, if someone truly wants to continue making money through Bitcoin, they should calm down and learn so they have proper knowledge about the cryptocurrency industries. As a matter of fact, knowledge must come before all else. op Now that you have swiftly realized your errors, you only need to take the appropriate actions on time to continue learning the procedures required to learn about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general. I'm really delighted for you.

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 It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.

Everything in life happens gradually, much like when you plant a seed and watch it develop into a large tree. Similar to this, knowledge develops like a plant in a forum where members share and learn from one another if they follow the appropriate procedures. A forum is a great place where different people offer their own views, so it's entirely normal to ask questions about stuff you don't know. Thus, don't be afraid to ask questions and allow your knowledge to expand.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on November 29, 2023, 08:51:02 AM
it’s a good thing you’ve used the knowledge you’ve acquired to impact others outside the bitcointalk community, it show how devoted you were in learning and now you’re ripping from the good benefits and I hope Newbies seeing your statement would take note and stay focused in learnin to grow and get better.

The problem is when you talk to someone who does not understand what you are talking about; they are unlikely to value your words. The worst thing happens when you talk in a public group, and they all start trolling you because they disagree. For example, when all of them started suggesting Binance, and I said it's a centralized exchange, and you should avoid it, all of them started laughing at me because they thought I was a dumb guy, and they were correct. In such a situation, I find myself helpless and ask them to search for it on Google. Most of the time, they continue to troll and ignore suggestions!


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 29, 2023, 01:13:29 PM

The problem is when you talk to someone who does not understand what you are talking about; they are unlikely to value your words. The worst thing happens when you talk in a public group, and they all start trolling you because they disagree. For example, when all of them started suggesting Binance, and I said it's a centralized exchange, and you should avoid it, all of them started laughing at me because they thought I was a dumb guy, and they were correct. In such a situation, I find myself helpless and ask them to search for it on Google. Most of the time, they continue to troll and ignore suggestions!
They might feel you were dump but I put it to you that you're not, so far you're trying to teach them the right thing, one thing I believe is that learning is a constant process in life, no matter the degree one has acquired there are still other aspects of life that they're yet to learn, what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't be discouraged when you try to enlighten people about a particular thing and end up being mocked by them, that shouldn't stop you from passing a message to other people when you can.
 Not everyone is the same and I believe there are people out there that would be willing to give you listening ears, all you have to do Is focus on them, and allow the one's who claim to know it all make mistakes, there are chances that they'll still fall back to you begging and paying to know what you would've taught them for free.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: 348Judah on November 29, 2023, 02:50:50 PM
Many of us discover this forum with the hope of earning money through activities like airdrops or bounties

But that's where the wrong mentality lies, this forum is specifically meant for bitcoin discussion, other things we see here are just added advantages and opportunities to make us enjoy our time being together here.

It can be overwhelming for newcomers who may feel lost amidst numerous threads, unsure where to begin.

Isn't it more better that when you find yourself amidst a condition you know nothing about, you should make enquiry or watch to learn first before going too far, we almost encourage newbies to post less and read more in other for them to learn and get used to the forum, they can also through this leaning process avoid making mistakes.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Rockstarguy on November 29, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
 I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
When one  is rushing to be faster that the shadow a lot of mistakes will  take place which can be very difficult to  later correct them. It is better take their time and learn very well, this will make them to enjoy the forum and do things right the way it is supposed to be done. Beginners who fail to learn the rules of the forum always fall victim of breaking the rules of the forum.

Taking good time to learn is not a waste of time, people feel it is boring to learn and they can get things they want in shortcuts, learning bring good results. Their is gain in learning.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Vaculin on November 29, 2023, 03:35:26 PM
For me, this realization often comes not actually to newbies who are starting to explore the forum, but for those who are losing a lot because they think that bitcoin is a get rich quick and so they need to make learning fast and decide to trade or invest, or join signature campaigns. People only learn after they have made errors and losses, and probably that's the time that they will go back to the basic and take time learning.

Apparently, this should be our first mindset before taking risk in the crypto market. But only few are able to realize this as majority are eager to learn and earn after.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Kavelj22 on November 29, 2023, 07:53:47 PM
The clearest reason that explains the state of rush experienced by forum newbies is that most of them are directed to the forum on the grounds that it is an easy way to make money before it is even defined as an appropriate space for learning and one of the most important sources of knowledge about Bitcoin and blockchain. Thus, their primary goal, once they register an account, is to learn about ways to earn money, the most prominent of which is joining one of the signature campaigns, which in turn grants the highest reward to users with old memberships. Therefore, upgrading membership is their first goal, and accordingly, they commit many mistakes that often lead to the attendance of their accounts or their failure to obtain merit points to upgrade their memberships.

A merit system has been integrated to avoid spam waves caused by this rush. However, it can be noted that a small number of new accounts are here to learn and gain experience. In the same sense as learning, beginners would have known that achieving financial profits from using the forum does not necessarily pass through upgrading membership to join bounty and signature campaigns, because the forum provides a good space for investing personal skills and experiences in exchange for money.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Nheer on November 29, 2023, 09:34:47 PM
You will be surprised to know that when I tell them the difference between Binance and the wallet like electrum and why electrum is better than exudos, they laugh at me and start to criticize saying Binance in the market for a long time and they try to convince me saying it's trusted enough to store million dollar worth of crypto because others also using it.

I have even saw that people holding over $100 at Binance and when I tell him "bro, you should use non-custodial wallet". He said "No, thanks". I wish them to bring in a community and teach them these things. But I cannot force them.
The issue with people who believe they are well educated is that, in reality, they have very little knowledge, but they will never accept this since they always believe they are right and no matter how hard you attempt to teach or correct them, they will never learn since they believe what they know is the best.

We wouldn’t have been much different from them if we were not a member of this forum. I myself would have been taken down the drain by a friend who used to be into cryptocurrency. It was during my early days in the forum when i have learned something about crypto and wallets, this friend visited me and saw some crypto apps on my mobile phone and asked if i was into crypto,  I answered “a little “. Ever since then he have been disturbing me with different messages to invest in different coins and he will even claim if I invest i will make double of my investment in a few weeks, i will just laugh and reply okay bro. After carrying out my research I always find out they shitcoins with no future. After sometime I asked him how far about our investment he will reply don’t worry it’s going well. I never invested in any of those coins all thanks to bitcointalk for impacting so much knowledge in me.

If i had not been part of this forum I would have wasted so much money on shitcoins I know nothing about, this forum taught me to always research before investing in anything. To be a part of this forum is a blessing on its own because every knowledge here is useful. Knowledge cannot be forced on anyone, they need to show interest before you can think of teaching it to them but a lot of them are not ready to be taught so all you can do is let them be, after a couple of mistakes they will also learn one way or another, they will learn from their mistakes and those who store coins in custodial wallets will learn when they get hacked or scammed. I don’t pray that for them but i think it is the only way they can learn.



Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Sanitough on November 29, 2023, 09:51:07 PM
The only reason why people rush into learning the forum because of their greed that push them to enter bitcointalk forum so they can invest or trade later on. They are never concerned actually with the facts and ideas that they can gained from the forum, but they are more concerned on the profits that they can gain from successful trading or investing. Without knowing that everything starts in the forum, if they are not well-knowledgeable and well-skilled on their chosen career, then the rate of being unsuccessful remains high.

This is the reason why we should never rush and take a shortcut to be successful. The forum has a lot of knowledge to share and real-life experiences to learn from, so its a must to start learning the forum well before proceeding into investing or trading, or even participating in signature campaigns.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 29, 2023, 09:59:09 PM
It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.
Normally and ideally, before we go in and start something, we have to learn a few things first, especially the basic things that are important and fundamental. So at least even when we are newbies, we already have some insight. That's ideal and normal.

However, what often happens is that there are usually a lot of newbies who only hear about how this forum can make money and in the end they are interested in creating an account and starting posting without studying or at least reading some information first. And they feel that they have to immediately get money from this forum even though they don't yet understand what this forum is and what the mechanisms are in it. And this happens often.

When I first started here, I spent a long time just because I wanted to focus on making money quickly but was too lazy to study. So I actually wasted a lot of time. In the end, again, whoever is in this forum, is obliged to study and read various things in this forum in order to contribute optimally and produce things that meet expectations.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 29, 2023, 11:26:49 PM
  It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.

Although this started as a Bitcoin forum, it's worth more than that at the moment because of the addition of the different boards that brings about different discussion. All information that you need can be gotten from the forum which means you can also learn different things on the forum. As a newbie, what you should be more concerned about is learning and not looking for merit to rank up and chase after signature campaign. The campaigns are just a privilege that can be taken from you at anytime so that shouldn't be your focus on the forum. Develop yourself while you're here and aim above the forum because there's more to achieve in the outside world that the forum can help build you for. I always say there's a lot of wisdom to be gotten from the forum and it's left for you to decide if you'll be among those gaining those wisdom or not.

This is the reason why we should never rush and take a shortcut to be successful. The forum has a lot of knowledge to share and real-life experiences to learn from, so its a must to start learning the forum well before proceeding into investing or trading, or even participating in signature campaigns.

Shortcuts deny you the privilege of gaining the knowledge that comes from passing through the process. Shortcuts makes it impossible to teach others how to achieve what you have achieved because you didn't pass through the whole process of achieving success both on and off the forum. Shortcuts can only get you to a point and it leaves you there but those that genuinely pass through the process can go as further as possible. An example is an account that get helps though reviews always ends up not having merits after they get to a specific rank and the help stop coming from the reviewers but that users that was gaining merits on his own, no matter how small will keep getting merits as his keep contribution positively on the forum. I'm not saying account reviews or giveaway threads are bad but there's always a clear different between users that ranked up through those means and the one earning merits on his own.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 29, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
Whenever a person rushes the process, they tend to fail since it shows poor effort and lack of understanding the fundamentals.

I mean, it is never bad to dream big and to think of earning hundreds of BTCs at the same time. But as for everything, it involves a series of steps/processes that cannot be rushed at the same time. The person has to understand all the basics/fundamentals before they can even start some of the technical terms that are involved.

I have personally seen newbies who specifically joined this forum for signature campaigns and they tend to show perform poorly due to their lack of any understanding on the matter. Like what I mentioned, when you chase for merits, you will gain nothing.

That is why, learn and read respectively. Be inquisitive and be curious- this is not a race but a beautiful journey that can potentially give you profitable returns if you play your cards right.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Alana Arden on November 30, 2023, 06:46:13 AM
As a newbie, I mean, in the beginning, I was in too much of a rush to climb the ranks too quickly. for which I was chasing talent but no knowledge. As a result of my lack of sufficient knowledge, I find myself confused in the lot of posts, which can be called "mess." But suddenly some posts came in front of me, which really helped me to read. After reading the post, my misconception was shattered, and I now agree that merit is not everything. not by running after talent but by reading posts to increase my own scope of knowledge, which can be properly applied by reading every board post. Because the community not only discusses Bitcoin but also many important topics that I wouldn't have known if I hadn't spent time in the community. In fact, it takes time to understand something properly. So I am giving myself time on the forum, and I also know that I will not waste this time.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on November 30, 2023, 07:15:26 AM
They might feel you were dump but I put it to you that you're not,
To be honest, I felt dumb. Not because I couldn't convince them but because I wanted to help them for free. There is a saying: do not start any debate with illiterate people. There was no point in joining the debate.

Not everyone is the same and I believe there are people out there that would be willing to give you listening ears, all you have to do Is focus on them, and allow the one's who claim to know it all make mistakes, there are chances that they'll still fall back to you begging and paying to know what you would've taught them for free.

True. A guy sent me a private message asking what a good wallet to store Bitcoin and USDT is. Surely, he has seen the point I mentioned in their comment section. But, as you may know, Bitcoin is banned here. So, If anyone asks me If I use Bitcoin or any crypto, I used to say NO. But when people ask for help, sometimes I have to answer them. Now, I am using a fake account to answer them.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 30, 2023, 07:26:55 PM
As a newbie, I mean, in the beginning, I was in too much of a rush to climb the ranks too quickly. for which I was chasing talent but no knowledge. As a result of my lack of sufficient knowledge, I find myself confused in the lot of posts, which can be called "mess." But suddenly some posts came in front of me, which really helped me to read. After reading the post, my misconception was shattered, and I now agree that merit is not everything. not by running after talent but by reading posts to increase my own scope of knowledge, which can be properly applied by reading every board post. Because the community not only discusses Bitcoin but also many important topics that I wouldn't have known if I hadn't spent time in the community. In fact, it takes time to understand something properly. So I am giving myself time on the forum, and I also know that I will not waste this time.
   Believe me when I say that every time you spent here in the forum is not a waste rather you’re further giving yourself a better insight about the forum. I’m glad you are able to meet this trend, at least you can learn a thing or two from the thread. When you follow the due process of the forum one day you will see your self in the upper echelon of the forum remember that slow and steady wins the race. No knowledge here is lost cause you can use it anywhere. You are also building your mind by reading every single detail that is on here, some people may see it as stress or ambiguous going through these tiny pieces of information. To me it’s another level of discipline and patience. After all that’s what the forum is all about discipline and patience. These two virtues will see you go far in the forum.
   Don’t give up on learning new things everyday because we learn everyday. Understand the concept of the forum and try and to visit the forum everyday. Try to visit the beginners and help thread more often to further clarify your questions. Never be scared to ask questions I’m sure we have people who are willing to help. The whole point is for us here to work as team.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Finestream on November 30, 2023, 09:40:56 PM
It's certain that people rush learning the forum because there are a lot of profit opportunities awaits for them in the later part. And they think that they can successfully achieve them without taking their time learning in the forum. And that's their biggest mistake that continue to blind them.

They will only learn their lesson once they stumble in the end. And by that time, they will start learning the forum again hoping they can correct all their mistakes and not committing the same errors again.


Title: Re: Why rush, instead of taking your time to learn about the forum ?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 30, 2023, 09:52:18 PM
Sometimes, rushing up could help in a whole lotta ways.. remember, when you get registered, time begins to tick - peeps are also looking at your activity level and effectiveness... Sometimes you'd ask why? You cannot attest to your efficacy over time in here without posting - Not just posting but, posting valuable documentaries, threads, guidelines and giving solutions to people's problem.. That's exactly where the quote comes in "study to show yourself approved" ... Without much pain, merit will begin to flow in... But what if you don't wanna rush and you begin to relent? name a verdict for yourself then...lol

Sandra 🧑‍🦰