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November 27, 2023, 10:25:12 PM
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The major problem newbies are facing nowadays is that they don't want to study and devotes their time in making research about an entity or what they are about putting interest. What they does is that, they want to start teaching like their teachers and handle things the ways their teacher always does without knowing it took them time to have that basic standard. Patient they said is a key to success because when we developed them it really helps in terms of decision making and how often we tends to know everything without knowing the basics that they needed to know.

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November 27, 2023, 10:33:56 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2023, 01:31:16 PM by Youngkhngdiddy
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For newcomers who can't easily rank up as it is quite difficult now because of the merit system,
do remember that there are other ways to earn money aside from participating in sig campaigns.
If you have other skills such as programming, being a graphic artists and others (as you can see in services section),
you can also look for those opportunities and offer what you think you can do.
It may be hard from the start but as you build your portfolio, people will look for you and ask for your services.
Also, there is trading, staking or mining that you can venture but definitely, you need to learn also on how to do these things.
  Thanks for sharing this piece of information, this is the sole purpose of the thread to pass information for newbies to follow. The forum is a broad place and due to its proximity may seem ambiguous for some to understand. This shouldn’t discourage you, instead make it a thing to learn something new from the forum everyday. With that you can see how progressive you’ve become.  There are lot of opportunities the forum is bringing not just earning and getting merit, we learn and get information here to as well.
 There's a saying that no knowledge is à waste, and it's also applicable in the forum, cause the things you learn as a newbie on here would guide you through your journey here in the forum. And on the long run after you've gained enough knowledge, you'll begin to earn, instead of rushing to earn before learning.
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November 27, 2023, 10:56:52 PM
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With the features and requirements of ranking up, no one can haste their way into ranking up.  First there is this called activity where an account has a minimum requirement of activity before ranking up, then second is the merit requirement where an account needs to have the required merit to rank up. Meeting the two conditions to rank up, I believe is enough time for an account to know more about the forum, its rules, and how the forum works.

There is actually no reason to rush things because an account cannot be promoted to a Hero account overnight, while getting promoted to legendary is like a lottery draw where one needs to be lucky to trigger the promotion when the minimum requirement is met.

@OP is correct that we don't need to rush things to rank up because it can't be hastened due to the minimum requirements needed for ranking up.  Best a newbie can do is to focus on learning than creating threads with recycled topics (thread that had previously been discussed or threads with the same topic) to teach other members.


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November 28, 2023, 09:22:22 AM
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These threads are helpful but I doubt newbies pay any attention to them. It’s just full member and other high rank discussing on this thread.
😂 You know that stuff they say in our local parlance about old people not being comfortable when bones are mentioned? That's the situation here. Newbies know they're being talked about here and may not feel comfortable contributing here. It's not as if they haven't stumbled on this topic.

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I don’t think it’s about signature campaigns or bounties that motivates the drive to rank up. They want to discard the newbie title and feel like a part of the community. I believe it’s a ego thing.
Well, I think it's more of the drive to rank up so they can get into campaigns that drives them; not the ego thing. This is why we tend to see newbies slow down a bit once they're able to rank up and get into Bitcoin paying campaigns. I don't think anyone will feel inferior here when it's an anonymous gathering place. Those who do should know they've a greater problem than ego.

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November 28, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
Last edit: November 28, 2023, 01:02:21 PM by Learn Bitcoin
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Glad to know your story! I guess I have learned many things from this forum. The forum helped me understand how Bitcoin works and why privacy is important. Which wallet should I use, what is an open-source wallet, what is its benefit, why should we not use centralized exchanges, and why is it essential to use our wallets that give private keys/seed phrases?

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.

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November 28, 2023, 12:28:18 PM
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It is difficult for those in areas with rare jobs and bad currencies to make money on the forum, whereas it is simple for those in better regions to learn about investing and investigation from the forum. Sadly, only a few of the projects (old and new) have representatives at the forum.
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November 28, 2023, 01:01:39 PM
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When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members
You have to take one step at a time to achieve anything in life successfully, and the same has been proven on this forum. As a new member, if you act hastily to move up the ranks and possibly make money from campaigns, you could be doing more harm to yourself than you realise. Instead, you should try to follow the proper procedures to avoid negative consequences down the road. Taking shortcuts could lead to breaking the law and making wrong choices. The forum is no exception, in order to be productive here, it is important to take your time and not rush into things; gaining knowledge should be your top priority if you want to be productive before partaking in anything. Having the necessary knowledge will make your path easier, yet many newcomers consider it as a waste of their time.

OP What you did was the best thing to do because rushing to earn a merit without knowing anything is a huge waste of time, therefore it is better to redirect your energy and effort into acquiring knowledge.

however I'm pleased to say that I don't  regret joining this forum cause there are lots of  informations and knowledge  I've gained from it, therefore I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
As you begin your journey, you will grow more comfortable and enjoy what the community has to offer. There will come a time when you will become so accustomed to the forum that it will be difficult for you to spend an hour offline. The forum is a great place to learn about bitcoin-related topics as well as some topics unrelated to bitcoin. Though new members find it difficult to understand the forum offers much to us. However, they won't realise this until they eventually take the brave decision to seek knowledge rather than being desperate to move up the ranks.

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
Funny folks, they think they know so much about cryptocurrency and wallets that they will even confidently recommend exchange wallets as the safest wallet. I was also a member of a Telegram group where someone else gave the same advice and continued by suggesting that group members could keep as many coin as they desired on Binance that is the best wallet choice. Before I joined the forum and learned they weren't the safest, I used to believe them. My understanding of cryptocurrencies has greatly increased thanks to Bitcointalk, and I am happy to have joined this forum. I will always be grateful of all that this forum has taught me.

 
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November 28, 2023, 01:40:17 PM
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I think Satoshiprinces said it all; there was no better way I could have explained it than that. Most newbies fail to understand that in here there is no one in competition with any of them; all that matters is being yourself, and it will all be cool. Trying so hard for you to rank up to the next rank so that you can start feeling among other higher rank makes really no sense. Some are active, but some fail along the line.
  
No doubt a lot of them are in here for the pay, but if we are to talk about the pay alone, then some newbies could have been able to bring down their heads in order to understand how to really get down to those pay. It's not just about copying another person's style or trying to appear everywhere with almost no meaningful information to pass to the public; it's either a duplicated thread or a repeated question.
 
The most funny part of it all is that many of them don't come back to their thread to check if there are solutions provided for the question that they have asked, which is why most of them ask almost the same question over and over without a number in a different thread.
   Very true, some even lack the patience of working hard to build their profile, and those that are money driven will head up making irrational mistakes thereby putting their account in jeopardy. There are due process in following up the forum. With gradual progress and guidance you will end up making it to the top of the forum. The forum is more of just being yourself and sharing your ideas. Everyone has a different opinion to the view of things, we come here to share those opinions educate ourselves as well.
   Newbie should be more about learning the basics of the forum instead of being money driven. Understand your way around the forum. The Do’s and Don’t of the forum, and not just being everywhere. Personally I feel like we all had a Guardian one way or the other giving us helpful tips about the forum. We definitely have those who personally take it upon themselves to guide the newbie, answering what ever questions they might be having trouble with. It is important for newbie to understand that they can’t  skip the process, they just need to follow the trend.
You have spoken well. It is obvious if a person rrues to mimic someone or fake his persona for the sake of opportunities and progress. Certainly he cant be successful at doing that. People will accept you for who you are, correct you for saying things that they feel are wrong and also advise or share opinions to things you do not have much knowledge about. This is how the forum was built.

Slow and steady wins the race should be understood in this case. This means doing what is right in a more consistent manner, thereby winning the race at last rather than doing things the wrong way and last falling of track.
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November 28, 2023, 02:28:12 PM
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I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
Funny folks, they think they know so much about cryptocurrency and wallets that they will even confidently recommend exchange wallets as the safest wallet. I was also a member of a Telegram group where someone else gave the same advice and continued by suggesting that group members could keep as many coin as they desired on Binance that is the best wallet choice.

You will be surprised to know that when I tell them the difference between Binance and the wallet like electrum and why electrum is better than exudos, they laugh at me and start to criticize saying Binance in the market for a long time and they try to convince me saying it's trusted enough to store million dollar worth of crypto because others also using it.

I have even saw that people holding over $100 at Binance and when I tell him "bro, you should use non-custodial wallet". He said "No, thanks". I wish them to bring in a community and teach them these things. But I cannot force them.

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November 28, 2023, 07:18:24 PM
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Glad to know your story! I guess I have learned many things from this forum. The forum helped me understand how Bitcoin works and why privacy is important. Which wallet should I use, what is an open-source wallet, what is its benefit, why should we not use centralized exchanges, and why is it essential to use our wallets that give private keys/seed phrases?

I am a Facebook group member, and if a new member asks for wallet recommendations, most people suggest either Binance or Kucoin. I laugh and realize that I was part of this group one day. If you ask where I learned these things, It's BitcoinTalk.
   I’m glad you are able to use the forum to your advantages, after all that is what the forum is meant to be for, to impact and enlighten people with little or more knowledge you know about bitcoin and the general thing they need to know about the forum at large. The forum is called Bitcointalk for a reason. Here we learn and share ideas about bitcoin related issues and the economy at large. I believe with your engagement in the forum you can have the upper hand and confidence to represent yourself.
  The forum gives us this extra boost and insight, not everyone is privileged to be part of the forum thus missing out on some important detail information about the crypto space. We ought to use the forum to our advantage and learn as much knowledge as possible, it doesn’t only implies to the newbies only but to general forum members cause learning is a constant process and in life we learn everyday, like wise here in this space as well, it’s a good thing you’ve used the knowledge you’ve acquired to impact others outside the bitcointalk community, it show how devoted you were in learning and now you’re ripping from the good benefits and I hope Newbies seeing your statement would take note and stay focused in learnin to grow and get better.
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November 28, 2023, 10:34:47 PM
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  When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members
It's better that you realized your lapses early and corrected your mistake. If you are here to learn, then you can also make money on forum with time, there is joy in learning and making money, but most newbies don't want to learn, they just want to make money. Most people are just here because of money, some of them don't even care to know what the forum is all about, they just have the belief that immediately they join, they will start making money. They don't care to go through the forum rules and regulations to know what the forum is against. That's why most newbies always end up plagiarizing, they just copy from other places without adding source thinking they can easily receive merit if they do that.

If you are too desperate to get merit, don't be surprised that you won't be getting it. But if you are posting freely just to make a contribution to the forum, don't be surprised, that's when you will start receiving merit. Just make your own impact on the forum, and you can also learn here, with time you will be able to rank up your account.

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back in my earliest day in this forum, before merit system is applied and there are not many signature campaign that paid in Bitcoin like now, I never thought about forum ranks, I came to this forum to earn some money and find some job actually, but I never really thought about forum ranks. The newcomers nowadays is immediately exposed to signature campaign with quite good payment and it increasing along with their forum ranks, that's what motivate them rushing to get higher rank.


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November 29, 2023, 06:45:14 AM
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Many of us discover this forum with the hope of earning money through activities like airdrops or bounties. It can be overwhelming for newcomers who may feel lost amidst numerous threads, unsure where to begin. Some, driven by a desire for quick gains, might skip reading guidelines and directly ask questions. However, success here is tied to our intentions. Newcomers focusing solely on monetary gains may find short-term benefits, but those embracing the community spirit and understanding the forum's rules are likely to have a more enduring and faster growth. It's about balancing intention with engagement for a fruitful and lasting experience.

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 When I joined the forum newly I felt it was mostly concerning Bitcoin and making money from it, at some point I tried to act faster than my shadow by rushing to gain merits and move into the next rank, but with time I discovered I was wrong and there were a lot to learn in the forum asides Bitcoin, so I took my time to go through ethics and norms of the forum and even seek help from senior forum members,

To be honest, if you are in a rush to make money without having the necessary knowledge, you won't be able to make money through Bitcoin for very long. However, if someone truly wants to continue making money through Bitcoin, they should calm down and learn so they have proper knowledge about the cryptocurrency industries. As a matter of fact, knowledge must come before all else. op Now that you have swiftly realized your errors, you only need to take the appropriate actions on time to continue learning the procedures required to learn about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general. I'm really delighted for you.

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 It is best to take baby steps to be able to fully understand the full context of the forum, and  ask questions when experiencing difficulties in the forum, the forum is a community and we are all here to share ideas and solutions, we work better as a team, of course abiding to the rules and regulations of the forum, would help as well, there are a lot to learn from the forum and lots of great ideas shared within the space with just mere asking the right questions you can achieve success from the forum.

Everything in life happens gradually, much like when you plant a seed and watch it develop into a large tree. Similar to this, knowledge develops like a plant in a forum where members share and learn from one another if they follow the appropriate procedures. A forum is a great place where different people offer their own views, so it's entirely normal to ask questions about stuff you don't know. Thus, don't be afraid to ask questions and allow your knowledge to expand.

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November 29, 2023, 08:51:02 AM
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it’s a good thing you’ve used the knowledge you’ve acquired to impact others outside the bitcointalk community, it show how devoted you were in learning and now you’re ripping from the good benefits and I hope Newbies seeing your statement would take note and stay focused in learnin to grow and get better.

The problem is when you talk to someone who does not understand what you are talking about; they are unlikely to value your words. The worst thing happens when you talk in a public group, and they all start trolling you because they disagree. For example, when all of them started suggesting Binance, and I said it's a centralized exchange, and you should avoid it, all of them started laughing at me because they thought I was a dumb guy, and they were correct. In such a situation, I find myself helpless and ask them to search for it on Google. Most of the time, they continue to troll and ignore suggestions!

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The problem is when you talk to someone who does not understand what you are talking about; they are unlikely to value your words. The worst thing happens when you talk in a public group, and they all start trolling you because they disagree. For example, when all of them started suggesting Binance, and I said it's a centralized exchange, and you should avoid it, all of them started laughing at me because they thought I was a dumb guy, and they were correct. In such a situation, I find myself helpless and ask them to search for it on Google. Most of the time, they continue to troll and ignore suggestions!
They might feel you were dump but I put it to you that you're not, so far you're trying to teach them the right thing, one thing I believe is that learning is a constant process in life, no matter the degree one has acquired there are still other aspects of life that they're yet to learn, what I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't be discouraged when you try to enlighten people about a particular thing and end up being mocked by them, that shouldn't stop you from passing a message to other people when you can.
 Not everyone is the same and I believe there are people out there that would be willing to give you listening ears, all you have to do Is focus on them, and allow the one's who claim to know it all make mistakes, there are chances that they'll still fall back to you begging and paying to know what you would've taught them for free.
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Many of us discover this forum with the hope of earning money through activities like airdrops or bounties

But that's where the wrong mentality lies, this forum is specifically meant for bitcoin discussion, other things we see here are just added advantages and opportunities to make us enjoy our time being together here.

It can be overwhelming for newcomers who may feel lost amidst numerous threads, unsure where to begin.

Isn't it more better that when you find yourself amidst a condition you know nothing about, you should make enquiry or watch to learn first before going too far, we almost encourage newbies to post less and read more in other for them to learn and get used to the forum, they can also through this leaning process avoid making mistakes.


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 I urge all newbies to learn from it as well, do not be in a haste to know about everything or move to the next rank without knowing the basics of what you're doing, the beginners and help board is the perfect place to learn and ask questions that would guide you through your journey here, as well as knowing where and where not to post.
When one  is rushing to be faster that the shadow a lot of mistakes will  take place which can be very difficult to  later correct them. It is better take their time and learn very well, this will make them to enjoy the forum and do things right the way it is supposed to be done. Beginners who fail to learn the rules of the forum always fall victim of breaking the rules of the forum.

Taking good time to learn is not a waste of time, people feel it is boring to learn and they can get things they want in shortcuts, learning bring good results. Their is gain in learning.

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November 29, 2023, 03:35:26 PM
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For me, this realization often comes not actually to newbies who are starting to explore the forum, but for those who are losing a lot because they think that bitcoin is a get rich quick and so they need to make learning fast and decide to trade or invest, or join signature campaigns. People only learn after they have made errors and losses, and probably that's the time that they will go back to the basic and take time learning.

Apparently, this should be our first mindset before taking risk in the crypto market. But only few are able to realize this as majority are eager to learn and earn after.

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November 29, 2023, 07:53:47 PM
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The clearest reason that explains the state of rush experienced by forum newbies is that most of them are directed to the forum on the grounds that it is an easy way to make money before it is even defined as an appropriate space for learning and one of the most important sources of knowledge about Bitcoin and blockchain. Thus, their primary goal, once they register an account, is to learn about ways to earn money, the most prominent of which is joining one of the signature campaigns, which in turn grants the highest reward to users with old memberships. Therefore, upgrading membership is their first goal, and accordingly, they commit many mistakes that often lead to the attendance of their accounts or their failure to obtain merit points to upgrade their memberships.

A merit system has been integrated to avoid spam waves caused by this rush. However, it can be noted that a small number of new accounts are here to learn and gain experience. In the same sense as learning, beginners would have known that achieving financial profits from using the forum does not necessarily pass through upgrading membership to join bounty and signature campaigns, because the forum provides a good space for investing personal skills and experiences in exchange for money.

 
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