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Title: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: dhruvfire on December 01, 2023, 12:07:11 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: DeathAngel on December 01, 2023, 12:15:48 PM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Oshosondy on December 01, 2023, 12:30:18 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Do not expect all-time-high this year as we said since the beginning in January, but we expected the price of bitcoin to increase and it did. The day to all-time-high is getting closer. Let us see what will happen after United States SEC approve bitcoin ETF and also some months after halving. Be expecting all-time-high by next year, but the price may increase more in 2025 which might be all-time-high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: royalfestus on December 01, 2023, 12:39:12 PM
As the market prepares for the halving and the bull market, this is how it looks. I am still waiting for all other altcoins that are close to bitcoin to react on the marketcap to find out how big the cryptocurrency will become this time around. It is impossible to control this market, and people should stop looking at the news, especially as the halving approach, as the bull will undoubtedly come regardless of the news and banter.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Text on December 01, 2023, 12:49:39 PM
I just saw it, that surge is impressive. With the way things are going, who knows what surprises the rest of the year might bring?
Breaking the all-time high would be a significant milestone, could be before this year ends or maybe next year? Many in the crypto community are likely keeping a close eye on the market trends. Hoping for more positive developments and reach new heights in the coming months. But always remember that its market dynamics is unpredictable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 01, 2023, 01:00:27 PM
Compared to its previous ATH, we are not there yet. New ATH for 2023? yes! But for BTC to make a new ATH this year is unlikely. The next Halving will take place in 2024 and as many have expected, that could lead to a bull market. Even after the bull market, BTC will struggle to reach a new ATH. It will go up for sure but to make a new ATH will be a long road. It will reach new ATH no doubt. But it will take time.

The journey is not going to be smooth. But the destination is already predicted. So I don't think we will see a massive change in the market at the end of this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Franctoshi on December 01, 2023, 01:13:46 PM
Today marks the beginning of the last month of the year and currently the price of BTC is trading around $38k per Bitcoin, though the momentum is gradually increasing day after day as we approach the end of the year and Bitcoin next halving, we are $31k away from its ATH, after we dropped to the lowest of $16k after the last bull run and if you minus 16k from the current price 38k, Bitcoin have had $22k increase in the price from January to November; Therefore, I don't see the possibility of Bitcoin using 1 month to have a growth of $31k from the current price to take us to 69K ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Jating on December 01, 2023, 01:35:38 PM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.

Right, lowest low for this cycle is around $15,500, when the news about the FTX collapse, and with that we are like 120%++ growth already and it's continuing as of this year as we still have one full month before the end of the year. And there are predictions that we will hit at least $45k, but remains to be seen.

But I think the title is somewhat misleading, maybe the better term is the highest for this year.

As usually all time high is reserved during the bull run wherein we reach a new milestone price as compare to the previous bull run of $69k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: alastantiger on December 01, 2023, 01:49:41 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Just some months ago, we were debating if bitcoin was going to hit a new all-time-high this year and here we are seeing it happen. It doesn't stop yet. In January, permit to say the price is going to explode(although this may be wrong), but our predictions in the community is that it will grow stronger in the first to third quarter of the year. This is what we are sure of. And nothing excites me more than this that it literally gives me goose bumps. HOLD strong folks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: boyptc on December 01, 2023, 01:52:21 PM
Can imagine that this is one of the best year after the believed bear market based on the cycles that we've got. I think that even before this year ends since we're on the last month, it's possible that it may go $39k-$40k.

Well, for $39k, it's just a few hundreds away and very likely that we'll see it.

And what's more exciting is the effect of it with the next halving + the etfs.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: yudi09 on December 01, 2023, 02:26:59 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
We in 2023 experienced a price below $20K, so a pleasant situation seeing Bitcoin can survive above $35K and $36K. Bitcoin closed November at a price of $37,712 and the next expectation prices above $38k could last up to 31 Dec 2023 so that in 2024 the percentage could increase even greater.
This year it still cannot be determined as a surprising thing will happen but it is not wrong to expect to reach above $40K if the market does not experience events or incidents that make prices fall again.
Before the market experienced a large increase, trying to have Bitcoin there was still an opportunity.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: gunhell16 on December 01, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

Well, as far as I can see, in January, there will be the beginning of the rise of cryptocurrencies, apart from Bitcoin, which is sure to lead the market. This December seems to be just right, in my opinion, based on my testimony in my few years in this industry.

So what some of our colleagues here in the forum said is correct: we should not expect a high ATH before the end of this year, 2023. After all, our real battle is waiting for the day of bitcoin halving and bull run, to be honest, and it may actually start next year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: WhyFhy on December 01, 2023, 03:18:47 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Do not expect all-time-high this year as we said since the beginning in January, but we expected the price of bitcoin to increase and it did. The day to all-time-high is getting closer. Let us see what will happen after United States SEC approve bitcoin ETF and also some months after halving. Be expecting all-time-high by next year, but the price may increase more in 2025 which might be all-time-high.
Never say never.  Around December 8th 2020 we where at like 19k, Jan 8th 2021 we hit 40K Before a halving then proceeded to 60k shortly after, my point is a lot of the action happened before halving. (and after)




Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: D ltr on December 01, 2023, 03:29:44 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

anything can happen, a new ath will be created, in the next bullrun, by the end of the year bitcoin could be at 35-40k$ looking at the market conditions which are rising so fast there is still time for that achievement, anything can happen in crypto surprise after surprise there will definitely be


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Kakmakr on December 01, 2023, 03:30:38 PM
Yea, I think we are seeing a repeat of the 2021 recovery phase to the ATH (All Time High) of $60 000+.... but that started in August of that year.... and then there was a sudden spike in the price.

I hope this is the bottom end of the recovery phase and that it will spike during the second half of December, we need that extra boost for the December/January holiday period, because there are always a slump in January/February.. when people spend a lot of Xmas gifts and expensive holidays.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Hamza2424 on December 01, 2023, 03:32:23 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

2023 was a good year, initially, it was not that rewarding but we can say it was a happy ending, it's 1st December and I'm expecting the high of 2023 around the range between $40k to $42k. Currently according to the developments so far it was a roller coaster journey of 2023, but 2024 is gonna bring something called wooop wooop.

All-Time High is not a piece of cake here, we had just a few more weeks in this year left behind, and even if the SEC approves a couple of ETF's it will be hard for market to pump to the level of ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: CageMabok on December 01, 2023, 03:45:33 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

The all-time high will not be broken this year for Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin today is still below $40K even though it has increased by 2.87%. So you can expect a more logical price than the all-time high price, for example, like expecting a price of $40K in this year even though it is the highest price in this year, but if you expect an all-time high price, that means you have to be ready to wait for Bitcoin to increase up to $70K and that will certainly be quite difficult to happen this year with its already very short duration.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Sim_card on December 01, 2023, 03:46:21 PM
It is good to see how bitcoin price is moving up and I believe that this will not be highest price for this year, because there is still be upward movement before the last day of the year. Bitcoin price might reach 40k to wrap up the year. Next year will be when we will see bitcoin price skyrocket if Bitcion ETF will be approved by SEC by next year January. Infact next year is the year for bitcoin because of the we are also expecting the halving and after that comes the bull run later. Bitcoin is a great assets and also repeats history.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: traderethereum on December 01, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
It looks like this won't stop yet because now the price of bitcoin has returned to a green candle where there is an increase in the price of bitcoin. This may continue until the $39k price is broken and could reach $40k by the end of the year.
We still have a month until the end of the year so we will probably see a lot of wild movements in the price of bitcoin. So we have to prepare ourselves to be able to adapt to the situation that occurs in the market.
If you see an opportunity to buy bitcoin, you can buy it, but if not, you can wait for the price to correct so you can buy bitcoin at a lower price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Ndabagi01 on December 01, 2023, 04:02:46 PM
I am not surprised by the sudden surge that marked bitcoin's all-time high this year. Since October, it has been predicted that it will rise to this level. This is a good sign of a bullish market as we approach the new year and the halving event. We are only on the first day of the month, so the price could rise to $40K before closing this year. The support level is strong, which indicates a more prosperous bullish market in the future. A new all-time high is almost certain to occur following next year's halving, which will be a significant milestone in the history of bitcoin since after marking 2021 ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: AprilioMP on December 01, 2023, 05:35:17 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023.

2.8% is just a percentage increase in 24h or 1d. If you look again at the Bitcoin price graph on several sites, it has changed again - it has increased by 3% and will still be able to increase and decrease according to my analysis when monitoring the Bitcoin graph rate on tradingview.

Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

I don't know how it will go at the end of this year. I think this year there will not be a high price because in the cycle it still takes many days to reach a new historical high price level.
I referred to several sources regarding the Bitcoin halving time which said it was around 130 days away plus the number of days after the halving. Here I said the highest record still won't happen this year but based on current calculations it will happen in 2024 and I still don't dare say it will definitely happen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: kryptqnick on December 01, 2023, 05:52:50 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
There's a month left till the end of the year, and this all this progress, Bitcoin is still more than 40% down from its ATH. I don't think it's going to fully recover till the end of the year, and I think it's somewhat early for a proper bullish market. Perhaps we'll just see a new stabilization of the price somewhere around $40-$45k and enter a new phase of few changes of the price. Of course, maybe I'm completely wrong, but I'm just not that optimistic. Another turnback with the price returning to $30k is also completely realistic at this point.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: super bako on December 01, 2023, 05:55:11 PM
Bitcoin's new ATH doesn't look like it will happen in 2024, it's just that bitcoin will continue to soar in price and it might be difficult for the price to fall to 10k. So we will see a continuous process of Bitcoin rising until a new ATH occurs which will probably occur in 2025 and other altcoins. but it's not easy to navigate the FUD terrain


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Pmalek on December 01, 2023, 06:14:30 PM
A market analyst that has a history of being right when everyone else expects the opposite has stated that bitcoin isn't going above $42.000 yet unless something significant happens, like the approval of Bitcoin ETFs. In that case, who knows where it could go. He expects one more downtrend before the pre-halving bullish movement. I am curious to see what is going to happen. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: mv1986 on December 01, 2023, 07:29:21 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
There's a month left till the end of the year, and this all this progress, Bitcoin is still more than 40% down from its ATH. I don't think it's going to fully recover till the end of the year, and I think it's somewhat early for a proper bullish market. Perhaps we'll just see a new stabilization of the price somewhere around $40-$45k and enter a new phase of few changes of the price. Of course, maybe I'm completely wrong, but I'm just not that optimistic. Another turnback with the price returning to $30k is also completely realistic at this point.

I think many Bitcoiners are spoiled because of those unrealistic gains we have seen during the early days. In reality Bitcoin has made about 130%+ over the last 12 months. Wouldn't that be called bullish for almost any other asset? Taking into account that interests will be dropping as inflation is dropping and that the next halving is around the corner, I am quite optimistic that it would not be wrong to say we are all set up to keep the momentum going. It is just not as realistic to go from 40k to 80k in the same amount of time we went from 4k to 8k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: ajiz138 on December 01, 2023, 07:45:58 PM
Bitcoin has rebounded this year according to the article and indeed with when the lowest price was $16K now bitcoin will soon approach $40K and become the highest this year if it happens there is a possibility I will see it but this is still in prediction we cannot determine an accurate result.

Since the time you entered when the price was low at that time there was indeed a negative trend from FTX resulting in a market crash and some say some people don't believe anymore but the proof is that for 1 year bitcoin has increased 130% meaning that if we hold in one or two more years the increase will be even higher.

Furthermore, waiting for the ETF rainfall and this will approach again, the positive trend will be even greater affecting the price even higher.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Captain Corporate on December 01, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
This is basically start of a bull run and I am quite happy about it, because this could very well be the point where we no longer go down and from here on out it could be just purely going higher and higher. I mean why wouldn't it be like that? It looks like it could be like that for sure and it could very well be something that we can make it work. I know that it doesn't work like that at this moment, but it could very well happen, so we need to end up with realizing whats good and whats not. Bull run near the halving will happen, it has always happened like that, and then goes for about a year, so I think it could be an important deal to make sure that we know what we are doing with it. If this is it, then we need to position accordingly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: TimeTeller on December 01, 2023, 09:22:52 PM
This is basically start of a bull run and I am quite happy about it, because this could very well be the point where we no longer go down and from here on out it could be just purely going higher and higher. I mean why wouldn't it be like that? It looks like it could be like that for sure and it could very well be something that we can make it work. I know that it doesn't work like that at this moment, but it could very well happen, so we need to end up with realizing whats good and whats not. Bull run near the halving will happen, it has always happened like that, and then goes for about a year, so I think it could be an important deal to make sure that we know what we are doing with it. If this is it, then we need to position accordingly.
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The positive vibes in the crypto market is really visible these days as we reached this 38k level after more than 1 1/2 years.
And since halving is coming up, it will generate more positive sentiments from the community, and surpassing 40k I believe, is quite easy.
So before we go to that level, need to think on how to take advantage of this opportunity while we are still below 40k.
Despite of the failures in this year, the market managed to get back on track and the possibility of heading to a new ATH is already on the horizon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 01, 2023, 09:26:30 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
I think yes this year has more surprises for us because I think BTC might cross $40k and then $50k but it all depends on the good news like ETFs getting approved. Most of the new outlets are talking about ETFs getting approved before or near 2024 and if that happens the BTC price is going to shoot up. And it will shoot up in a mere time and the amazing thing is we don't or can't assume how much positive impact it would have on BTC price.

Because just the fake news of it has pumped it from $28k to $38k, which shows the true potential of ETFs, and on real approval things will move way faster in terms of price.

And BTC has already touched $39k resistance and the next one is $40 and then the path to $45k is clear. Overall market sentiments revolved around government decisions they can do anything to manipulate things.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 01, 2023, 10:07:29 PM
This is basically start of a bull run and I am quite happy about it, because this could very well be the point where we no longer go down and from here on out it could be just purely going higher and higher. I mean why wouldn't it be like that? It looks like it could be like that for sure and it could very well be something that we can make it work. I know that it doesn't work like that at this moment, but it could very well happen, so we need to end up with realizing whats good and whats not. Bull run near the halving will happen, it has always happened like that, and then goes for about a year, so I think it could be an important deal to make sure that we know what we are doing with it. If this is it, then we need to position accordingly.
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The positive vibes in the crypto market is really visible these days as we reached this 38k level after more than 1 1/2 years.
And since halving is coming up, it will generate more positive sentiments from the community, and surpassing 40k I believe, is quite easy.
So before we go to that level, need to think on how to take advantage of this opportunity while we are still below 40k.
Despite of the failures in this year, the market managed to get back on track and the possibility of heading to a new ATH is already on the horizon.

Bitcoin price may be above expectations. However, as always, it can be in unexpected things on the market. There is a positive atmosphere in the crypto market, but it is possible to turn this air into a negative atmosphere. It is not always good to be very optimistic, so we should not ignore the possibility of a correction in the market.

As I said for a long time, Bitcoin gives the opportunity to buy and we need to consider this opportunity. Maybe a lower purchase price may be expected or a correction. Despite all this, we know that Bitcoin will soon be at high prices, so we need to invest the necessary investment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: taufik123 on December 01, 2023, 10:35:13 PM
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Furthermore, waiting for the ETF rainfall and this will approach again, the positive trend will be even greater affecting the price even higher.
The ETF decision is the most anticipated, there will be a new wave of upside when the spot ETF is accepted and this will cross the $40k price.

Entering December, it is also necessary to prepare as retailers slowly sell their assets to meet winter needs and for vacation.
So some corrections are certainly possible.
But about it, all is still in a good phase and the year-end target should reach $40k more


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Ricardo11 on December 02, 2023, 02:04:36 PM
We can definitely break the all-time high. If the price of bitcoin reaches its peak with this year's money and it will continue to rise, I think the price may cross 50k in 2023. We may reach an all-time high in 2024. This is what all bitcoin experts think. It is expected to break 100k in 2024 itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: glendall on December 02, 2023, 02:05:57 PM
the price spike is very impressive and  last for how many days, I believe that in January 2024 BTC will experience another price increase and will be followed by altcoin, hopefully this hope will come true and we can toast together in 2024


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 02, 2023, 02:30:22 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
I think the price of bitcoin has not reached this year ATM though there was a tremendous pump of it price which currently stood at $38800 and with month candlestick pointing to a very bullish one just like the two previous months candlestick a very good indication of a likely massive pump in this month, the next strong resistance zone is $49000 I don't think price would reach that zone thus possibly not attainable this year nevertheless whichever price mark attained before the end of the year is a pointer to next year likely massive pump in it price as we draw near to halving of it price and likely approval of Bitcoin ETF by SEC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 02, 2023, 02:39:37 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

Still expecting a new ATH in the last 1-2 years. $39k isn't the exact ATH we want to record in the last 1 year.

Although there are still controversies whether we are currently in the era of a bullrun or if this is a bulltrap but we expect the prices to soar above the current levels.

One of the factors that will contribute grately to it will be the approval of ETF, if it goes through then we are on a full scale bullrun which means we could see new levels exceeding the current $39k


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: ajiz138 on December 02, 2023, 04:38:24 PM
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Furthermore, waiting for the ETF rainfall and this will approach again, the positive trend will be even greater affecting the price even higher.
The ETF decision is the most anticipated, there will be a new wave of upside when the spot ETF is accepted and this will cross the $40k price.

Entering December, it is also necessary to prepare as retailers slowly sell their assets to meet winter needs and for vacation.
So some corrections are certainly possible.
But about it, all is still in a good phase and the year-end target should reach $40k more
Looking at the news on X.com, there is a possibility that a spot Bitcoin ETF will be accepted between January 5 and 10 next year. (https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1730612992717226356)
It's certainly getting closer and anticipating how the wave will be quite positive shows the market price rallying again, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if in the middle or at the end of the month bitcoin will touch $40K.

I think the same thing that in this winter most people need a lot of money for their families and fun including the upcoming Christmas, usually there is a correction but until now the price is still ok there is no change in correction and I see in some time the price is still sideways.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Yey09 on December 02, 2023, 04:51:31 PM
We all here waiting for the real ATH. And i think that we will see it before summer. ETF+Halving just a perferct mix for pump


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: southerngentuk on December 02, 2023, 04:52:07 PM
While we await the market's reaction to the halving and the unfolding of the bull market, it's crucial to maintain a levelheaded approach and avoid being swayed by sensational news or market noise. The cryptocurrency landscape is constantly evolving, and staying informed without succumbing to FOMO  is essential for making sound investment decisions. As we embark on this exciting chapter in the cryptocurrency saga, let's embrace the potential of the halving and the bull market with a sense of cautious optimism. While there are no guarantees in this dynamic market, the halving event represents a pivotal moment that could reshape the cryptocurrency landscape and propel Bitcoin to new heights.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: kentrolla on December 02, 2023, 07:21:18 PM
Yes Bitcoin has breached this year's ATH and I am sure we may reach $40k if this trend continues but December has not been so great for Bitcoin in the past. I would bet on Bitcoin till first half of December and need to be very cautious towards the second half of December. But we are still far away from ATH figure which Bitcoin might most likely achieve during the next year's possible bullrun. It looks like next year would be a huge one for Bitcoin as without official bullrun Bitcoin has shown so much of improvement and upward trend which is more than 140% increase compared to Bitcoin's value in the month of December last year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Hamza2424 on December 02, 2023, 08:05:01 PM
We all here waiting for the real ATH. And i think that we will see it before summer. ETF+Halving just a perferct mix for pump

Every cycle brings a unique hype/narrative before the halving to pump the market and adoption rate as well, in this cycle there is something massive we can say ETFs really deserve such hype—one more step towards the global adoption and universal payment mode. 2024 is more bullish compared to 2025 there are some extremely hyped events on the waitlist.

Currently, the market is driving good mode, The ATH will also be something surprising this time, we can expect a 4x from the current market price to the 7x in optimistic range.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: sokani on December 02, 2023, 08:14:39 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

The last time I checked Bitcoin price about 2 weeks ago, it was $37k. When I came across the news about the price surge on a crypto aggregator website, l had to go check out the price and behold I'm happy with what I'm seeing, I mean green candlesticks. November was a good month and December could even be better. It's currently at $39.3k and we may be in for a beautiful surprise as Bitcoin could break through the $40k price mark before the new year kicks in.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Dunamisx on December 02, 2023, 08:16:52 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

We are getting out of the dip gradually, this may not be the bullrun awaited for yet not until after next year halving, we may also not have a new all time high sooner than after the halving as well when the market is very volatile and also rising fast, what we may have as target for the end of the year may actually be around $40,000 to $45,000 because of the way we are seing the market moving being unpredictably faster, this year end is more likely to remain bullish.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: btc78 on December 02, 2023, 08:37:59 PM
it's very possible for btc to reach 40k by the next following weeks this is an extremely exciting event especially with the upcoming halving which for sure will lead to a new ATH


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: famososMuertos on December 02, 2023, 08:40:13 PM
Well, it has undoubtedly set a ceiling for 2023, +39k and in the short term, if not minutes, we could be reaching +$40k, a barrier that undoubtedly few had expectations of appearing at this time.

A total referential blow to the year 2022 for these same days for which we had (+-) $18,283 for the maximum value of the entire month of December that occurred on the 14th, with a decrease to its lowest point that month of $16,398 (day 22).


Source data: CMC



Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Myleschetty on December 02, 2023, 09:58:20 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Based on the price statistics of the Bitcoin market in a few months before the halving month, there are always a lot of market surprises with the up and down trends of the market before the total rally market.
There's a lot of prediction that the next year's rally market will be in the form of something we have never experienced in the crypto market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: philipma1957 on December 02, 2023, 10:01:10 PM
39.8k is pretty good for the time being


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Casdinyard on December 02, 2023, 10:17:49 PM
Not this year we wouldn’t. Unless some angel sent from heaven up high grants our wish and immediately invests billions upon billions of dollars in bitcoin, which certainly wouldn’t happen now despite the desirable crypto climate.

There’s a good chance that the next bull run to be brought about by the upcoming halving could help us reach newer heights and endeavours, but you can’t expect bitcoin to just shoot up in value 3000% in the blink of an eye. There’s a lot of things at play here and the people’s opinions about bitcoin is just one of them.

Perhaps hold your excitements first, and be prepared for greater things to come by making sure you have a stake at bitcoin this early.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 02, 2023, 10:20:58 PM
Well, it has undoubtedly set a ceiling for 2023, +39k and in the short term, if not minutes, we could be reaching +$40k, a barrier that undoubtedly few had expectations of appearing at this time.

A total referential blow to the year 2022 for these same days for which we had (+-) $18,283 for the maximum value of the entire month of December that occurred on the 14th, with a decrease to its lowest point that month of $16,398 (day 22).


Source data: CMC


this is the highest so far for this year. and that is true, reaching the 40k mark is easy. and more then likely, some smaller exchanges are already selling btc at 40k as of this moment. this is a good day for most btc holders who bought it below 20k.
they are already getting the 2x profit out of their stash. if there will be good news before the end of this year, we can easily achieve the 45k range.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Jegileman on December 02, 2023, 10:21:44 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

I just received notification today that bitcoin exceeded $29K and this will not come as a too much surprise because of what is ahead of us, the halving event and the bitcoin bull run that comes after it. Many have speculated in the past that bitcoin will reach its previous all-time high before or after halving and then we are going to experience another bull run that will make the price of bitcoin exceed $100K. With the way the market is on uptrend, if it continues in this manner till the end of the year, this speculation could turn out to be true.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Marvelman on December 02, 2023, 11:49:24 PM
I just received notification today that bitcoin exceeded $29K
/.../

Are you a time traveler from the past? Or your notifications are a bit late...  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: philipma1957 on December 02, 2023, 11:57:23 PM
I just received notification today that bitcoin exceeded $29K
/.../

Are you a time traveler from the past? Or your notifications are a bit late...  ;)


he fat fingered 2 vs 3


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: TelolettOm on December 02, 2023, 11:58:31 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Yep, that's right, BTC has exceeded $39k, and it's possible that the next retest will be at $40k or more, before finally experiencing a market correction first. The market may be a little sideways in the future, so we have to be ready for various strategies. What's more, it looks like this is already starting to head towards the bullish era in 2024 or 2025, so we have to be ready for everything.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: suzanne5223 on December 02, 2023, 11:59:00 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

The last time I checked Bitcoin price about 2 weeks ago, it was $37k. When I came across the news about the price surge on a crypto aggregator website, l had to go check out the price and behold I'm happy with what I'm seeing, I mean green candlesticks. November was a good month and December could even be better. It's currently at $39.3k and we may be in for a beautiful surprise as Bitcoin could break through the $40k price mark before the new year kicks in.
If you check the historical price data of the market you will see that November and December are always good months for the crypto market but when the halving date is getting closer November and December are good for a surprising surge in price.

I just received notification today that bitcoin exceeded $29K
/.../

Are you a time traveler from the past? Or your notifications are a bit late...  ;)

This must be a typo and I believe she was talking about the $39K price that the Bitcoin market achieves today.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: philipma1957 on December 03, 2023, 01:28:25 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Yep, that's right, BTC has exceeded $39k, and it's possible that the next retest will be at $40k or more, before finally experiencing a market correction first. The market may be a little sideways in the future, so we have to be ready for various strategies. What's more, it looks like this is already starting to head towards the bullish era in 2024 or 2025, so we have to be ready for everything.

retest does not occur until Jan ⅔

we should get to 48k by dec 31

I have picked 42k for dec 1

and 48 k for dec 31

did it at least 30 days or more in the past.

I was close with dec 1.  38.8k not quite 42k


see thread link


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472517.0



Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Solokan on December 03, 2023, 02:30:24 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023.

2.8% is just a percentage increase in 24h or 1d. If you look again at the Bitcoin price graph on several sites, it has changed again - it has increased by 3% and will still be able to increase and decrease according to my analysis when monitoring the Bitcoin graph rate on tradingview.

Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

I don't know how it will go at the end of this year. I think this year there will not be a high price because in the cycle it still takes many days to reach a new historical high price level.
I referred to several sources regarding the Bitcoin halving time which said it was around 130 days away plus the number of days after the halving. Here I said the highest record still won't happen this year but based on current calculations it will happen in 2024 and I still don't dare say it will definitely happen.

indeed the price of btc lately always gives good surprises and is very difficult to go down, indeed 2% as op said in just 24 hours and I also remember when the market was bearish and the price of bitcoin was below $19$ so now it can be said to be increasing btc price will be close to 60% since the bear market. And of course, people who buy BTC at a cheap price at that time, like $17k, will potentially get a 60% profit if they still hold it, but if they hold it for longer, they will potentially get an even bigger profit.

yes, I agree with your opinion and indeed we will not know the fate of BTC whether it will create ATH new one this year or not and I also think that BTC certainly needs a process and time to reach its highest level and usually mentally, time will also influence its path . price increases. The current BTC price of $39480 is certainly an achievement and positive response given by Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Zigabel on December 03, 2023, 06:46:40 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
There's still more time to envisage such speculations but the for the year 2023 Bitcoin has broken it's ATH attained this year and still looking promising to further exceed it's current price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: DanWalker on December 03, 2023, 09:54:17 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

I think bitcoin price will continue to rise and conquer $40k or even $42k before the end of 2023. But bitcoin breaking its ATH is not going to happen this year, we are only 1 month away from the end of the year and I don't think there will be big enough news to make it happen. Surely many people will think of ETFs being approved but I don't think it will be strong enough to take bitcoin to break bitcoin's $69k level. To do that, we still need to wait for the halving to take place.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: lixer on December 03, 2023, 08:12:31 PM
Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
We have less than a month left before the year ends, so I'm not sure about surprises because the price might go higher than where it went today, but I'm pretty positive that we are not going to see it break above the all-time high just within this year because for that to happen, the price of Bitcoin will have to gain about $32k more and that doesn't sound like a realistic milestone to complete within 25 to 27 days considering the price can't just keep going up all the time. There can be days when it goes down or stays stable.

Imagine the all-time high Bitcoin can set during the bull run if the price manages to cross the previous all-time high within this year while we will still have about 4 months left for the halving event and the bull run generally starts after some time of the halving event as per the history of Bitcoin. So, it doesn't sound realistic at all even to think about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 03, 2023, 08:42:07 PM
Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
We have less than a month left before the year ends, so I'm not sure about surprises because the price might go higher than where it went today, but I'm pretty positive that we are not going to see it break above the all-time high just within this year because for that to happen, the price of Bitcoin will have to gain about $32k more and that doesn't sound like a realistic milestone to complete within 25 to 27 days considering the price can't just keep going up all the time. There can be days when it goes down or stays stable.

Imagine the all-time high Bitcoin can set during the bull run if the price manages to cross the previous all-time high within this year while we will still have about 4 months left for the halving event and the bull run generally starts after some time of the halving event as per the history of Bitcoin. So, it doesn't sound realistic at all even to think about.

For me, it's enough to see the price of bitcoin hitting $40k at least, and so far we are very close on doing that. Just last year alone, we are into $15,500 and again, there's a massive FUD that bitcoin is done.

But look at how resilient Bitcoin is, now it has build so much momentum again, giving it's investors who bought at that price range a good profits already. But as far as ATH for 2023, we are still very far. But as I have said, from $15k to $40k? that's already a big jump.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Yamifoud on December 03, 2023, 09:36:51 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Pumps are really the thing we gonna expect during December just like it happened before but we couldn't be confident enough that we're going straight to bullish or ATH as we are still too far from that. As halving gets closer, demand rises together with the price. The price of Bitcoin is currently $39,600 and probably it surpass $40k any of these days. With the current situation of the market, we are being too positive that this year the price of Bitcoin will stay above $40k.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: mirakal on December 03, 2023, 09:59:38 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
There's always high possibilities that bitcoin will continue to surge high more and may reach its all time high earlier than we expect it, just like there's also chances for bitcoin to drop again and see bitcoin price in crash. Both can actually happen in the market. However, if only positive news will fill the market, then bitcoin price will sure to reach another all time high within this year.

Actually this scenario has already happened in the previous years. When people are chasing for higher prices of bitcoin, then bitcoin price suddenly dropped that makes the people resort into panic selling. But if faith is within us, I guess that would be enough to still cling  on the potentials of bitcoin that it would never frustrate us in the end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: erep on December 03, 2023, 10:10:50 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Pumps are really the thing we gonna expect during December just like it happened before but we couldn't be confident enough that we're going straight to bullish or ATH as we are still too far from that. As halving gets closer, demand rises together with the price. The price of Bitcoin is currently $39,600 and probably it surpass $40k any of these days. With the current situation of the market, we are being too positive that this year the price of Bitcoin will stay above $40k.
The market has reached the highest level of recovery in the first month of December, the market is much better than I expected because I predicted that the price of $ 40k could be reached in the middle and end of December but the prediction was wrong and the market will probably close at $ 50k by the end of the month, but there is no prediction certain and perhaps some people's predictions regarding a recovery near ATH will be achieved this month, the bull market may increase at unpredictable high price levels.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Wiwo on December 03, 2023, 10:46:21 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin?
Is a nice site to view Bitcoin almost climbing up to $40,000 which has sprung up a lot of discussions in that direction and many bitcoin market speculators are already predicting a bull return in the Bitcoin market,  but for me I am sure 40k is not a enough benchmarks to call it a bull market but rather,  we are at a recovery level at the moment and this could possibly holds way for quite a while before any major market break out that could then be considered,  the start of a bull market and by then we can aimed and seeing a new all time high (ATH) price.

At this point, we are only seeing some level of recovery in the price of bitcoin and nothing more than that,  2.87% movement is still ok to make some short-term DCA decisions,  but then also we have to check the risk ratio.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: fuguebtc on December 04, 2023, 04:49:14 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin?
Is a nice site to view Bitcoin almost climbing up to $40,000 which has sprung up a lot of discussions in that direction and many bitcoin market speculators are already predicting a bull return in the Bitcoin market,  but for me I am sure 40k is not a enough benchmarks to call it a bull market but rather,  we are at a recovery level at the moment and this could possibly holds way for quite a while before any major market break out that could then be considered,  the start of a bull market and by then we can aimed and seeing a new all time high (ATH) price.

At this point, we are only seeing some level of recovery in the price of bitcoin and nothing more than that,  2.87% movement is still ok to make some short-term DCA decisions,  but then also we have to check the risk ratio.

Whether this is a bull market or a market in recovery depends on when you bought bitcoin. If you bought bitcoin when it was at 15k-17k then you cannot say this is a recovering market when you have made over 150% profit. For me, this was not a strong bullish season as many expected, but this year was a bullish year for me because I made 2x, even 4x profits from investments into altcoins. If we rely on the bitcoin chart, we are in the pre-bull phase and the bear season is over.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Poker Player on December 04, 2023, 05:17:30 AM
At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin.

I almost died of laughter reading this sentence. Believe it or not, there are quite a few people in the forum who do not own any Bitcoin, but some of them do so out of necessity, they live in poor countries and what they earn in signature campaigns they exchange to be able to live.

What is clear is that the best is beginning. A couple of years ago an unexpected drop began (because everyone expected a higher ATH) and since then we only had a drop in price and boredom, like 6 months this year that have been sideways. 2024 and 2025 will most likely be good years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Rabata on December 04, 2023, 06:52:05 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
Pumps are really the thing we gonna expect during December just like it happened before but we couldn't be confident enough that we're going straight to bullish or ATH as we are still too far from that. As halving gets closer, demand rises together with the price. The price of Bitcoin is currently $39,600 and probably it surpass $40k any of these days. With the current situation of the market, we are being too positive that this year the price of Bitcoin will stay above $40k.
As it was already assumed that the price of Bitcoin could increase from the end of this year we are seeing the current market conditions. We have reached the last month of 2023. Next year we look forward to Bitcoin halving. Since Halving will be organized, the confidence of the investors in the market has been also increased. Although we thought that maybe we could see Bitcoin surpass 40K in the last week of this month but it already surpass. Bitcoin is going to be bullish beyond the expected time. Meanwhile, the market has risen to $41700. I think if this trend continues we will cross 45k soon. Today the total market cap has reached 1.615 trillion. This is definitely a positive aspect. We expect to see a new Bitcoin ATH surpassing the previous ATH next year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: G_Besar on December 04, 2023, 11:53:50 AM
The market has reached the highest level of recovery in the first month of December, the market is much better than I expected because I predicted that the price of $ 40k could be reached in the middle and end of December but the prediction was wrong and the market will probably close at $ 50k by the end of the month, but there is no prediction certain and perhaps some people's predictions regarding a recovery near ATH will be achieved this month, the bull market may increase at unpredictable high price levels.
I actually think that the closing price of Bitcoin this year will be $45K or a little more than that because now Bitcoin has just reached more than $42K in today's market so the trend seems to be getting better and most people are also quite happy with this because after After being patient for a long time, we have achieved quite satisfactory results through the current price increase, although there are still many people who hold Bitcoin to wait for a more significant increase before halving.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Nrcewker on December 04, 2023, 02:42:29 PM
This is really a positive sign. Something big is really coming to be honest. I checked the price and within 24 hours Bitcoins have actually surprised everyone. If this pace is maintained by the Bitcoins, then definitely at the end of month we might see Bitcoins crossing 60k usd. With this, we will also rise towards a new ath price for the coin. So I would suggest everyone to buy as many coins as you can. This time Bitcoins won’t fall down until and unless it touches 80k USD.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Reatim on December 05, 2023, 05:48:54 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
It has been expected to reach 40$k and above this December mate , though some believe it will take place in November but of course many have failed  ;D

ATH this year is 39k and still counting https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/  so I assume this week( as we are still in weekend) will have 40kish in the morning of Monday .
2.87% is still a little to 5 that i believe will seal the BULL run properly , How many times that we are in 30k  level but never break 40k since couple of years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: tygeade on December 05, 2023, 05:52:00 AM
This is really a positive sign. Something big is really coming to be honest. I checked the price and within 24 hours Bitcoins have actually surprised everyone. If this pace is maintained by the Bitcoins, then definitely at the end of month we might see Bitcoins crossing 60k usd. With this, we will also rise towards a new ath price for the coin. So I would suggest everyone to buy as many coins as you can. This time Bitcoins won’t fall down until and unless it touches 80k USD.
It looks like that's a quite good possibility, we are not even 10% away from that, we are less different and it could very well happen. One day you wake up and it has moved from 39k levels to 41k levels, why not wake up to a day where it's 43k+ as well, and after that it's only matter of time to reach 45k or more.

It's looking quite good and I am hoping that we are going to end up with a good result here and there. I get that it's going to end up being a little bit difficult to pick and choose, but it is definitely a possibility that we could end up with profit by the end of the year. It just keeps growing and growing, that's an awesome situation, and it does provide a lot of benefits as well, I believe we are going to do just fine during this month.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Silberman on December 05, 2023, 06:41:37 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The market is definitely very bullish, especially if we consider that the halving has not taken place yet, but with bitcoin reaching 42k during some moments and with the price still remaining above 41k then it is clear that December is bound to be a great month for bitcoin, and it is even possible that we may surpass the 45k level before this month ends, what I do not know is if that kind of bullish sentiment can be maintained for long or if a correction will come before the halving as the price of bitcoin seems to be on the high side already.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Obim34 on December 05, 2023, 07:09:27 AM
Right from the days of old Bitcoin has the potentials of making this kind of wave and I believe the time has come when those who took the chances of accumulating good amount of Bitcoin will attest to the fact that it was never wrong choosing Bitcoin as there investment, those who procrastinates will severely face regret not that they still can't buy now but they would have gotten it at a much lower price than they would get it now.

Witnessing Bitcoin at it's All Time High in this year 2023 is just what we have wished for long and it happend accordinly.  I already see some people here already making their speculations on the closing price of Bitcoin for this year, seems I should join them in doing so, as I would want to remain positive on this, I assume Bitcoin will definitely touch the $47K range or even more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: pinggoki on December 05, 2023, 07:25:55 AM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.
I wish I had a job during that time because I would've made more potential profit if I had but I chose to chill and relax before becoming a part of the workforce which isn't that bad at all, it's not like I didn't do anything during those times doing relaxing, I made some personal progress so I can hopefully sell my skill better and it did pay off somehow. Pretty awesome experience. I just hope that bitcoin's going to continue it's run until the first few months of 2024, not a bad year to start if bitcoin gets to 100k right?


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: rodskee on December 05, 2023, 07:28:41 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
There is always breaking of All Time High mate because this has been recorded each 4 years cycle but
if you are assuming because of the Increase happening now is that we will make it this year of 2023?I'm not sure that there is even a chance .

the market is showing great as we always had  in each December or started in October each year ,
but that does not count of making ATH in December without the 4 year cycle that we have been witnessed for multiple   times now.

Right from the days of old Bitcoin has the potentials of making this kind of wave and I believe the time has come when those who took the chances of accumulating good amount of Bitcoin will attest to the fact that it was never wrong choosing Bitcoin as there investment, those who procrastinates will severely face regret not that they still can't buy now but they would have gotten it at a much lower price than they would get it now.

Witnessing Bitcoin at it's All Time High in this year 2023 is just what we have wished for long and it happend accordinly.  I already see some people here already making their speculations on the closing price of Bitcoin for this year, seems I should join them in doing so, as I would want to remain positive on this, I assume Bitcoin will definitely touch the $47K range or even more.
But what OP seems to believe that it is not just the Highest level of 2023 but another ATH for Bitcoin
that he was asking to if possible to come in this December .


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 05, 2023, 07:49:25 AM
Bitcoin's 24-hour ATH on some exchanges is $42,400,  which is just very close to $45k, and if it can get to $45k, I assume that it will not be difficult to break another ATH for the year 2023; perhaps December is still left with 26 days, and if the price is supposed to get to $50k before the end of the year, it surely will. I am now positive that it might get to $50k before the end of 2023.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 05, 2023, 08:57:52 AM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.
It's obvious that the green color of bitcoin that is showing right now indicates that they will be a bullrun come 2024 and what I understand in bitcoin increment is that it retrace every year either goes up or it falls, but right now I don't think anyone can complain about bitcoin price of this year because we started seeing positive in bitcoin this starting from July and August.so we can't compare this year price and last year price, each of the have it's market regulations that determine the acceleration or increase of the price.

As the market prepares for the halving and the bull market, this is how it looks. I am still waiting for all other altcoins that are close to bitcoin to react on the marketcap to find out how big the cryptocurrency will become this time around. It is impossible to control this market, and people should stop looking at the news, especially as the halving approach, as the bull will undoubtedly come regardless of the news and banter.
Are you using altcoins to measure or determine the marketcap of cryptocurrency, you know quite well that bitcoin gives rise to other coins and its well known and understanding that bitcoin increment skyrocket altcoins and if bitcoin should deficiency in the market base on the demands that helps for it's increment is low, that means altcoins who is under bitcoin will also drop in the market..in nullshell bitcoin price boasts the price of other coins.

Today marks the beginning of the last month of the year and currently the price of BTC is trading around $38k per Bitcoin, though the momentum is gradually increasing day after day as we approach the end of the year and Bitcoin next halving, we are $31k away from its ATH, after we dropped to the lowest of $16k after the last bull run and if you minus 16k from the current price 38k, Bitcoin have had $22k increase in the price from January to November; Therefore, I don't see the possibility of Bitcoin using 1 month to have a growth of $31k from the current price to take us to 69K ATH.
Are aware that whatever things we are discussing about bitcoin is like speculation and assumptions, it's obvious that bitcoin can get to any heights of price at any given point in time, do you know that what skyrocket the price of bitcoin is dependable on the days or weeks bitcoin price get to, you can weak up today and see the price at sixty nine thousands [69k] what increase the prices of bitcoin is when the demand is of high potential than the supply and it happens now the price of bitcoin can increase to any point.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Obim34 on December 05, 2023, 10:56:49 AM
But what OP seems to believe that it is not just the Highest level of 2023 but another ATH for Bitcoin
that he was asking to if possible to come in this December .
If the OP throughly mean this then it won't be possible or might be just that we can't tell but certainly base on presumption it won't be possible for Bitcoin to hit All Time High this December. It might even turn out that Bitcoin might fall back to something lower than we expect, that's the volatile nature of Bitcoin which we must have understood.

As the market prepares for the halving and the bull market, this is how it looks. I am still waiting for all other altcoins that are close to bitcoin to react on the marketcap to find out how big the cryptocurrency will become this time around. It is impossible to control this market, and people should stop looking at the news, especially as the halving approach, as the bull will undoubtedly come regardless of the news and banter.
No one is controlling the market, it is just an assumption base on the current market abilities, for certain the halving will definitely bring Bitcoin to an All Time High but before then there will be a bull run which is what we are experiencing now. Every other altcoins are associated with the price movement of Bitcoin, as Bitcoin is about to hit an All Time High I believe same will happen to those altcoins we hope to see them reach a higher price range.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: onecall123 on December 05, 2023, 12:56:35 PM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

No one really knows for sure. It's best to use logic and not rely too much on what people are saying.

This seems like a Santa Claus rally, and our next local resistance is at $47,000. We've officially entered phase 2 of the bull market. Don't be surprised if we go back to $30,000 in the upcoming weeks. Something tells me many people wouldn't know how to manage their positions, and most of us might get deceived and played.

Timing isn't our strong suit. It's just about thinking about the probabilities.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: slashz9 on December 05, 2023, 12:57:07 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: dunfida on December 05, 2023, 01:03:53 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
There's no such way on knowing on when bull run do kicks in and tons of people had been assuming out that it is really that indeed just lurking in the shadows but with those recent ETF's and other
positive fundamentals then it would really be just that so hard to believe that this is some sort of bull trap. Whether there's a bull trap or not or simply organic growth then it is really always that
safe to assume that there would really be always a market correction on which it is really just that a normal approach on having this kind of movement because we know that market
cant really shoot up that too fast. There's always a correction after that but cant really be denied that this year do really shows that positive thing considering
that we've been sitting for so long on lower levels and now we are already past half way on reaching out the all time high which it might happen on next year but no one
actually knows.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 05, 2023, 04:39:03 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??

@slashz9, IMO, Bitcoin's price has not really performed as well as what its current price is right now. If you ask me, I'd say that Bitcoin is even supposed to be around $50k+ this month because so many predicted it like that, but just that the bullish trend did not start so early. Bitcoin has really been in the range of $20k to $30k for a very long time now, and it's a good thing that it's surged to $42k, and hopefully we are getting to $45k. Even if it's a bull trap, then you just have to hold on to your coin until you're convinced enough to sell it at a better price. But for those that bought at $16k, they've made some good profit, but the decision is on what price to sell.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Davian144 on December 05, 2023, 04:54:11 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
For an increase in prices like what is currently happening or has occurred over the last two months, it is more appropriate to call it a bull run and I do not think that a decline will occur again in the near future. Even if there is another price decline in the market for Bitcoin, I think it will only be a normal correction and will not be too big because the current market trend has really improved and is even better than the last two months, so I am more confident for increases that will continue rather than for price decreases in the near future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: ajiz138 on December 05, 2023, 05:33:54 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
@slashz9, IMO, Bitcoin's price has not really performed as well as what its current price is right now. If you ask me, I'd say that Bitcoin is even supposed to be around $50k+ this month because so many predicted it like that, but just that the bullish trend did not start so early. Bitcoin has really been in the range of $20k to $30k for a very long time now, and it's a good thing that it's surged to $42k, and hopefully we are getting to $45k. Even if it's a bull trap, then you just have to hold on to your coin until you're convinced enough to sell it at a better price. But for those that bought at $16k, they've made some good profit, but the decision is on what price to sell.
Supposedly it could be at $50K this month, because it's only the beginning of the month it might happen or even stay in the range of $40K to $45K, see the current price continues to rise $43,781 at the time of this writing it might soon materialize to $45K and hopefully it will happen tonight because seeing the movement of bitcoin moving up in December is still quite significant.

As it is not a bull trap considering the support point is quite strong, I believe this mini bullish is due to several factors where many institutions are buying so much bitcoin into their pockets in addition to the imminent ETF approval according to media news, so maybe that can cause it.
Broadly speaking they have profited 150% more for those who have bought at $16K will be more HODL until the price is really high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: danadc on December 05, 2023, 08:04:43 PM
I have hopes that bitcoin can rise due to the approvals of the ETFs  , perhaps at this moment it will not reach its ATH price but it is very likely that it will go towards that, because first we are in a moment where things can be very favorable since the price of bitcoin is rising noticeably we are in a pre-halving, and that makes many investors want to own bitcoin and not sell for anything in the world, this makes people cause a lot of commotion by wanting to only invest in what they can obtain as profits but not right now, in a not too Distant time because it is said that the highest ATH may come in 2024, but what can be expected is that it will be very good.

I don't know, there are many articles that suggest a very good rally for the end of this year, but it's all about seeing if it happens or not, we have to continue Watching the btc price because the normal thing is that things can focus on a good bullish rally.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 05, 2023, 08:27:49 PM
The market has reached the highest level of recovery in the first month of December, the market is much better than I expected because I predicted that the price of $ 40k could be reached in the middle and end of December but the prediction was wrong and the market will probably close at $ 50k by the end of the month, but there is no prediction certain and perhaps some people's predictions regarding a recovery near ATH will be achieved this month, the bull market may increase at unpredictable high price levels.
I actually think that the closing price of Bitcoin this year will be $45K or a little more than that because now Bitcoin has just reached more than $42K in today's market so the trend seems to be getting better and most people are also quite happy with this because after After being patient for a long time, we have achieved quite satisfactory results through the current price increase, although there are still many people who hold Bitcoin to wait for a more significant increase before halving.

This year's close may be around 45k but there is no correction yet. This month's ATH may give some signals but investing before the correction may cause us to make a mistake. It makes sense for me to wait for a correction to buy.

This increase in the price of Bitcoin is good news, but despite all this increase, there are still those who say that the price will fall. It's worth being a bit cautious, so setting aside some money for a purchase could be a good move.

There are those who say that the rise will continue even before the halving, but it is still necessary to keep a close eye on the market and keep our moves ready.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: ShowOff on December 05, 2023, 08:41:42 PM
I actually think that the closing price of Bitcoin this year will be $45K or a little more than that because now Bitcoin has just reached more than $42K in today's market so the trend seems to be getting better and most people are also quite happy with this because after After being patient for a long time, we have achieved quite satisfactory results through the current price increase, although there are still many people who hold Bitcoin to wait for a more significant increase before halving.

This year's close may be around 45k but there is no correction yet. This month's ATH may give some signals but investing before the correction may cause us to make a mistake. It makes sense for me to wait for a correction to buy.

This increase in the price of Bitcoin is good news, but despite all this increase, there are still those who say that the price will fall. It's worth being a bit cautious, so setting aside some money for a purchase could be a good move.

There are those who say that the rise will continue even before the halving, but it is still necessary to keep a close eye on the market and keep our moves ready.

Price corrections are an inseparable part of the market. Prices will be corrected due to many factors, even if it is due to overbought. Of course there is always the possibility of the bitcoin price correcting, but it is never bad because I see it as rational to expect a bigger increase. Day traders certainly need to be careful, while long-term investors don't need to think about volatility too much. You just need to build your investment portfolio better with a good strategy, I mean dip and dca are good for accumulation in the long term.

Today, the price of bitcoin has broken a good resistance level, it is at $44k. Traders who sell at $40k and below certainly feel regret because in reality the dip they expected to buy back did not occur but the price actually rose to a higher level. The end of this year will be an exciting one for every holder, but you are right that there is always the possibility of a correction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: STT on December 05, 2023, 09:21:16 PM
ATH and defining just 2023 is a contradiction but I get the idea.  We have been rising this whole year on the lows if not the highs so its not too surprising and out of line to make a high at this end of year and also main markets are far more positive I think.    Dollar index is rising slightly last I looked, its still possible we are capped.
   Anyhow my main point would be we are operating still off the range first set by the actual ATH as is all time not one year.   The secret to BTC is one year is just a second in its life time, somehow this time traveler is older in its gait then we could imagine despite its appearance just within the last few years it acts like some ancient oak in its stature imo.
  I will still refer to the Fibonacci lines from ATH to the low most immediately after, I think the extrapolation between those two would be most relevant now to its moves and where we might top out in 2023 before retracting, revising and then rallying probably further along in 2024.  I reckon we're outside the broad range of the price channel for 2023 so its acting like a breakout but usually a pullback occurs somewhere.
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Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 05, 2023, 09:34:47 PM
Man oh man, I figured bitcoin would break out hard, either up or down after being stuck in the $28k area.  I'm pleased to see that it's the former, even if I have no clue what's driving the price up.  I sort of figured bitcoin would start dropping after everyone saw that governments are scrutinizing crypto harder than ever.

The market does tend to surprise me--and that's probably why I never made any money.  If I'd known what bitcoin was going to do back in 2015 I would have erased every doubt I had about it and bought with every cent I had.  I can't help but kick myself at times like these.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Hamphser on December 05, 2023, 09:37:20 PM
I actually think that the closing price of Bitcoin this year will be $45K or a little more than that because now Bitcoin has just reached more than $42K in today's market so the trend seems to be getting better and most people are also quite happy with this because after After being patient for a long time, we have achieved quite satisfactory results through the current price increase, although there are still many people who hold Bitcoin to wait for a more significant increase before halving.

This year's close may be around 45k but there is no correction yet. This month's ATH may give some signals but investing before the correction may cause us to make a mistake. It makes sense for me to wait for a correction to buy.

This increase in the price of Bitcoin is good news, but despite all this increase, there are still those who say that the price will fall. It's worth being a bit cautious, so setting aside some money for a purchase could be a good move.

There are those who say that the rise will continue even before the halving, but it is still necessary to keep a close eye on the market and keep our moves ready.

Price corrections are an inseparable part of the market. Prices will be corrected due to many factors, even if it is due to overbought. Of course there is always the possibility of the bitcoin price correcting, but it is never bad because I see it as rational to expect a bigger increase. Day traders certainly need to be careful, while long-term investors don't need to think about volatility too much. You just need to build your investment portfolio better with a good strategy, I mean dip and dca are good for accumulation in the long term.

Today, the price of bitcoin has broken a good resistance level, it is at $44k. Traders who sell at $40k and below certainly feel regret because in reality the dip they expected to buy back did not occur but the price actually rose to a higher level. The end of this year will be an exciting one for every holder, but you are right that there is always the possibility of a correction.
Price correction is inevitable because we cant really have a market that would really be shooting up high forever.For those people who are anticipating that there might be further more price increase then they should hold but for those who do want to secure out their profits just because they had bought on lower price then it isnt bad to sell out. It would be always according into someones situations and preference.
Cant agree more that this is indeed the ATH for this year 2023 on which its been a while on looking or seeing with these prices.

Now that we are fast approaching for the halving event then expect that price might climb up more but just like been said on which im already anticipating for some
correction later on. IF ever it would happen on upcoming days then i do have already the funds to make some DCA.  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Richbased on December 05, 2023, 10:09:32 PM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.
I wish I had a job during that time because I would've made more potential profit if I had but I chose to chill and relax before becoming a part of the workforce which isn't that bad at all, it's not like I didn't do anything during those times doing relaxing, I made some personal progress so I can hopefully sell my skill better and it did pay off somehow. Pretty awesome experience. I just hope that bitcoin's going to continue it's run until the first few months of 2024, not a bad year to start if bitcoin gets to 100k right?

Most of us also wished we had a job then too but like even if one didn't had any job as at that time but I believe that their were some business we were doing as at that time that was fetching little income but it was just that most people were afraid to invest with the belief that it's future may not really be sustainable so in this life if you really want to be successful then you need to remove the spirit of fear and losing because even if one fails then at least you've gained an experience for the future, even now that the price of Bitcoin has skyrocket it's not yet late to accumulate Bitcoin as against the upcoming halving and bull market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: taufik123 on December 05, 2023, 11:34:34 PM
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Now that we are fast approaching for the halving event then expect that price might climb up more but just like been said on which im already anticipating for some
correction later on. IF ever it would happen on upcoming days then i do have already the funds to make some DCA.  8)
In a good strategy, you are ready for all the conditions that will occur in the market.
But looking at the current market which is quite bullish and Bitcoin reaching a price of $44k, this is a tremendous rise for the end of this year.

But we still have plenty of time until the end of the year closing.
If Bitcoin can still survive, it may still reach a price of $50k.
But if, as you say, you are ready for the correction that is about to happen and are ready to buy gradually or DCA.
It cannot be avoided because market conditions are quite overbought


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 06, 2023, 12:42:53 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
It is now   recorded the 2023 ATH actually it is 2022-2023 All time High recording almost 44 thousand dollars value for Bitcoin that we have not seen for long now , though there is a small corrections happening now dropping to 42k once again.

those other Holder is maybe cutting losses and yes making its way to make some profit .

But I am not comfortable talking about Bitcoin reaching ATH this year like growing above 68 thousand? maybe this is so much to expect and for me even how High Bitcoin may take now yet the Miner will have the advantage.

I have tried sending BTC now and to my surprise ? the lowest transaction fee or the slowest is 163sat/vB and the fastest that will take 10-30mins is 243sat/vB i which I feel so insane to take out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: dezoel on December 06, 2023, 06:15:23 AM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
I hope so, so that we can enjoy this new price for a while, as there are also instances that the correction immediately occurs right after a new high has been reached. Crypto market is not stable but it is highly volatile and people can benefit with it but if the volatility level becomes moderate, I think this is also better. It can normalize our emotions as well. Preparations must be there so that you will know what to do whatever the market throws at you.

Everyone is expecting for a bull run. This is why many are still buying and they can disregard these increases in the price. There might be people who will wait for a while and see if the price dips down for a second.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on December 06, 2023, 12:56:04 PM
Yes we can see more pump because now the bitcoin is above 43k$ and in this month bitcoin will experience more surge so it is a good time for all holders of bitcoin. This all increase is due to the reality of halving so if bitcoin price is higher and is going more higher then think about halving that during halving the price will be even more surge than current worth.

Now there is a clear indication that Bull season has begin so try to wait little more so you all will be in profit once bitcoin achieve the target price for which you have planned for selling your asset. There are more surprises to be come until April of next year so be active and work according to market pumps and dumps.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: YOSHIE on December 06, 2023, 02:21:12 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The stock market, the crypto market this year has gotten a little worse, the situation looks less than pleasant, some speculation is not directed, so so far the price of Bitcoin has shown good value in terms of price movement, it has touched the price of $44k, meaning it has shown 5, so many percentincrease rate.

Talking about ATH, some of the speculation I've read is good, but some of the other speculation is less pleasant, but I hope that the next ATH can be better than what has happened, that is what can be hoped for, you cannot be sure before something happens, hope for something good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: justdimin on December 07, 2023, 07:16:01 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The stock market, the crypto market this year has gotten a little worse, the situation looks less than pleasant, some speculation is not directed, so so far the price of Bitcoin has shown good value in terms of price movement, it has touched the price of $44k, meaning it has shown 5, so many percentincrease rate.

Talking about ATH, some of the speculation I've read is good, but some of the other speculation is less pleasant, but I hope that the next ATH can be better than what has happened, that is what can be hoped for, you cannot be sure before something happens, hope for something good.
I think the less good ones are not really all that crazy, we should be considering them as good as it gets and I think we should be considering the situation to be a little bit different in the end. I believe that we are going to end up with something that should be considered as bigger deal than we should, and that should be something that matters one way or another.

Hopefully people could realize that we are not at a bad situation, we are doing amazingly, and we should be keep going higher and higher if given enough green light. I get that sometimes that feels like not that possible, but we really need to consider that as possibility. I know it's a tough situation to be in, because expecting a huge rise is a very nerve wrecking thing, you always think to yourself "what if I am wrong", after all if you sell your coins and it goes up then you didn't win but you didn't lose, but if you invest and it goes down then you lose, so it's scary to buy and hold however, it should be fine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: mich on December 07, 2023, 08:49:00 AM
Yes we did make the ath for 2023 so far. And there is still this month now to see if we can go even higher. I would be very happy with a end of the 2023 year price for Bitcoin of 45k not want to be greedy.

That is the question we have to think about. I did read we will maybe have a big correction before the price of Bitcoin passes 45k because we have been stuck with 44k in this 'bull run'. And yes I do think that the 'bull run' is just beginning to start.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 07, 2023, 12:17:30 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
For an increase in prices like what is currently happening or has occurred over the last two months, it is more appropriate to call it a bull run and I do not think that a decline will occur again in the near future. Even if there is another price decline in the market for Bitcoin, I think it will only be a normal correction and will not be too big because the current market trend has really improved and is even better than the last two months, so I am more confident for increases that will continue rather than for price decreases in the near future.
After the beyond-expectation bullish movements of Bitcoin, there is nothing best fitting another bull run at this phase. Bitcoin had moved from about $24,900 within 4 months to above $44,500, which is almost a $20,000 movement towards. This can only be called a bullish run and it has been long that Bitcoin moved this much. Maybe when it was declining in 2021. But on the bullish side, it has not moved this much since the last post-halving time of 2020-2021 and it's a very good thing seeing the coin finally living up to expectations again. I can't wait to see Bitcoin move upwards to breach the ATH recorded in 2021, and by this, the critics will know that the coin is relentless and resilient as the analysts always claim it is. I now expect it to eventually hit $45,000 with time, and even a $50,000 psychological level is not safer in the sight of the coin anymore. However, I would advise you and others to be cautious at the same time and let our charts guide us appropriately.

I said this because you claimed it might not decline, but in reality, it's making some effect to make corrections. And when checked my chart, the price action on the daily chart is already bearish, and in addition, other confirming strategies show that Bitcoin will be selling today. Who knows if it the selling will last till the end of this week or more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Silberman on December 08, 2023, 05:20:03 AM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
You are not the only one that is surprised about what we are currently seeing, many traders expected for the halving to take place before we saw bitcoin again above the 40k level, and yet here we are, now as you state it is possible this is a bull trap and we could see a decrease on the price of bitcoin during the next weeks, but even if that was the case the signs that bitcoin has been giving makes me think the next bull run is going to be way bigger than I anticipated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: alankasman on December 08, 2023, 06:32:36 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The surprise that has occurred is the price increase of up to $44K and Bitcoin is able to survive with an increase of several months in 2023 in a row.
2023 to reach the highest level is still impossible. Our hope is that Bitcoin to achieve the highest lever may be achieved by the end of 2024 or early 2025.

Increasing the price of Bitcoin in the last three months if I am not wrong in remembering it is so fun because more than half half of 2023 the market struggles to be like now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Baofeng on December 08, 2023, 11:04:59 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The surprise that has occurred is the price increase of up to $44K and Bitcoin is able to survive with an increase of several months in 2023 in a row.
2023 to reach the highest level is still impossible. Our hope is that Bitcoin to achieve the highest lever may be achieved by the end of 2024 or early 2025.

Increasing the price of Bitcoin in the last three months if I am not wrong in remembering it is so fun because more than half half of 2023 the market struggles to be like now.

We did got a good increased at the beginning of the year, just look at this data:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/08/EXRe9.png

https://www.coinglass.com/today

So far we have 9 months out of the 12 that we have at least in the green area. As compare to last year, more reds 8/12. So it's a complete U-turn for this year and it seems that we will end up maybe around $45k or more as what the majority have predicted.

But it doesn't mean that we are done though, 2024-2025 is expected to be one of the biggest bull run in bitcoin's young history so it's better to just buy and hold for now and not sell even if we see more than 100% gain since the lowest low of $15,500 from last year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: TimeTeller on December 08, 2023, 11:15:17 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The surprise that has occurred is the price increase of up to $44K and Bitcoin is able to survive with an increase of several months in 2023 in a row.
2023 to reach the highest level is still impossible. Our hope is that Bitcoin to achieve the highest lever may be achieved by the end of 2024 or early 2025.

Increasing the price of Bitcoin in the last three months if I am not wrong in remembering it is so fun because more than half half of 2023 the market struggles to be like now.

Am not saying impossible here as we still have few weeks left for this year. Everything is possible in this market.
But if nothing else, whatever we have right now is creating positivity in this community.
Do remember, it has been more than a year that we have seen the $40k level, so this is already good news before this year ends.
As the halving is coming, I believe, there will be more positive news developing on its way.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: TopT3ns on December 08, 2023, 11:56:39 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
The surprise that has occurred is the price increase of up to $44K and Bitcoin is able to survive with an increase of several months in 2023 in a row.
2023 to reach the highest level is still impossible. Our hope is that Bitcoin to achieve the highest lever may be achieved by the end of 2024 or early 2025.

Increasing the price of Bitcoin in the last three months if I am not wrong in remembering it is so fun because more than half half of 2023 the market struggles to be like now.
At least there is still hope to continue returning assets that are trapped at high prices, and of course, this shows that there is still a possibility that Bitcoin prices will rise again to very expensive prices. Bitcoin movements are difficult to predict because bitcoin price movements depend on market demand. As long as technology continues to develop with very high demand, it will be easy to increase the price of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: kotajikikox on December 09, 2023, 06:37:02 AM
https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-surges-2-87-to-its-highest-level-this-year-11701429005470.html

Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
we have entered the 2nd week of December and yes the ATH of 2023 was recorded early this month but till not the price struggles to break 45k in which I believe the barricade for 50k price.
and yes once we broke that 50k then another milestone to hit 60k that I believe near to impossible to happen.
Yes we did make the ath for 2023 so far. And there is still this month now to see if we can go even higher. I would be very happy with a end of the 2023 year price for Bitcoin of 45k not want to be greedy.

That is the question we have to think about. I did read we will maybe have a big correction before the price of Bitcoin passes 45k because we have been stuck with 44k in this 'bull run'. And yes I do think that the 'bull run' is just beginning to start.
this can be called ATH of 2022-2023 because since early 2022 the price drops badly that we cannot see 40k level in the 2nd quarter of 2022.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: jeraldskie11 on December 09, 2023, 12:09:07 PM
So far we have 9 months out of the 12 that we have at least in the green area. As compare to last year, more reds 8/12. So it's a complete U-turn for this year and it seems that we will end up maybe around $45k or more as what the majority have predicted.
I agree, and if we analyze the market technically just using the market structure it clearly says that trend is bullish. The EOF is creating higher high and I believe it is around $45k level which the supply in weekly timeframe.

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But it doesn't mean that we are done though, 2024-2025 is expected to be one of the biggest bull run in bitcoin's young history so it's better to just buy and hold for now and not sell even if we see more than 100% gain since the lowest low of $15,500 from last year.
It's better to hold your investment in Bitcoin because of that reason but it would be better for investors who bought at less than $20k. But if you are a clever person you would sell it no matter how small is the profit because small gains is always a gain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Samurai trieng on December 09, 2023, 02:21:24 PM
I think 2023 will be the year of the crypto revival, because in 2023, especially at the end of the year, crypto, especially bitcoin, has moved very actively so that currently BTC can reach $43K and it is very likely that if you look at the current trend BTC can reach more than $45K.  at the end of this year,,, of course this is a very positive thing where BTC fell very deeply last year, namely approximately $20k and that was the worst bitcoin price, hopefully next year BTC and altcoins can continue to increase so that users can  feel the benefits of the investments they make,


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: alankasman on December 09, 2023, 06:26:36 PM
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/08/EXRe9.png

https://www.coinglass.com/today

So far we have 9 months out of the 12 that we have at least in the green area. As compare to last year, more reds 8/12. So it's a complete U-turn for this year and it seems that we will end up maybe around $45k or more as what the majority have predicted.

But it doesn't mean that we are done though, 2024-2025 is expected to be one of the biggest bull run in bitcoin's young history so it's better to just buy and hold for now and not sell even if we see more than 100% gain since the lowest low of $15,500 from last year.
From the table of monthly return percentages recorded on coinglass, I assume that the estimate for a massive increase in 2024-2025 is in agreement with historical data that has occurred in previous years.
Even though it has only passed the first week, December 2023 monthly returns are already +16.72%, while December 2023, -3.59%.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/09/EHuCC.png
The alarm needs to be prepared by not selling everything when profits have been made at the current price.



Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: arufox on December 09, 2023, 06:48:55 PM
Even though Bitcoin has recently experienced a significant price increase, I am not sure if Bitcoin will reach ATH by the end of this year. Moreover, the current increase in bitcoin prices is still below 15%. Of course, to reach a new ATH level, Bitcoin needs an increase of around 30%-50%. It is very likely that Bitcoin will only reach the ATH level next year, especially since the Halving is getting closer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Mate2237 on December 09, 2023, 07:13:09 PM
It’s great to see, we were at $16,000 for quite a few months if I remember correctly, only last year. Bitcoin continues to show how strong & what a great asset it is cycle after cycle. At this point I think you’re generally a moron if you don’t own any Bitcoin. Let’s see how 2024 goes, I predict it’s going to be a very bullish year.
Well if someone doesn't have a Bitcoin at this time of the market and time to come, I will still not call the the person (s) moron and probably the person was trying to get more but lack of finance might stopped him or her to acquire Bitcoin before this time because in most countries, citizens are living below a poverty line and that means they are not living with a dollar a day. So for them to buy Bitcoin when they have not eaten is very hard.

The prediction of 2024 is very high and I also predict $79k to $80k


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Rasa nanas on December 10, 2023, 10:24:54 AM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: CageMabok on December 10, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
Even though Bitcoin has recently experienced a significant price increase, I am not sure if Bitcoin will reach ATH by the end of this year. Moreover, the current increase in bitcoin prices is still below 15%. Of course, to reach a new ATH level, Bitcoin needs an increase of around 30%-50%. It is very likely that Bitcoin will only reach the ATH level next year, especially since the Halving is getting closer.
The ATH target is not for this year and next year could still be difficult even though the Bitcoin halving could be the effect of an even more significant increase from this year. Because everyone can see examples at the end of this year where Bitcoin can still be corrected for a moment and return to moving in the same price range, so things like that are what give Bitcoin more time to be able to return to the next ATH next year. This means that all these increases will not happen easily without any effects or causes that can influence the price of Bitcoin in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: n0ne on December 10, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
With cryptocurrency we should have expectation, but the same shouldn't be confirmed as the outcome. Most users have this positive mind and failing at the end. For this we should always have the mind to prepare for the worst. This will keep us on the safer part unlike the bullish/bearish outcome of the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 11, 2023, 10:27:15 PM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
I really don't think there will be any more surprises that we are to see before this year's end because bitcoin has surprised us already by giving us a high price like $44k + that we can talk about that next year will be a fantastic year of bitcoin price after halving season.
We can be hopeful for a new ATH of bitcoin by 2025. As for this season, nothing of such would ever happen


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: _BlackStar on December 11, 2023, 10:39:41 PM
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I really don't think there will be any more surprises that we are to see before this year's end because bitcoin has surprised us already by giving us a high price like $44k + that we can talk about that next year will be a fantastic year of bitcoin price after halving season.
We can be hopeful for a new ATH of bitcoin by 2025. As for this season, nothing of such would ever happen
The highest price Bitcoin has ever reached in 2023 is $44,700 - that was a few days ago. Today there was a big correction - but I don't think this will derail all hopes that there will be no price higher than $44,700 by the end of the year. There's still plenty of time to get it to get real - but the lack of support and high selling interest will probably keep bitcoin from breaking through another strong resistance at $45K.

What will happen - no one here will know, but I am confident and optimistic that some of bitcoin's strongest resistances will be tested until the end of the year. Now $44K is resistance - I look forward to it being broken again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: lienfaye on December 12, 2023, 02:26:55 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?
It's nice seeing the price of Bitcoin over $40k because it's been a while. Although there's a minor correction, the price is still decent for those who want to take profit and bought their Bitcoin below or above $20k.

Only 2 weeks more before this year end, I don't think the price can manage to surpass the previous ATH since the increase is not consistent. Instead, bull run might happen after halving (maybe months or a year after) just like the past history. Anyway, Bitcoin is unpredictable so let's see when will the price break its previous ATH because we're all waiting for that event especially the long term hodler.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: YUriy1991 on December 12, 2023, 04:37:18 AM
Bitcoin has surged for 2.87% today and reached the highest level in 2023. Does this year has more surprises for us and we can break all time high of bitcoin ?

BTC corrected and is now at $41,654 after rising strongly to $44,700. Yes. There are always surprises for the market and the market needs to be well measured and the recent surprise of US Senator Elizabeth Warren introduced legislation to "crack down" on Bitcoin and the crypto industry and bring it "into greater compliance. What does this mean?" Does it look like a cryptocurrency sale or purchase proposal again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Poker Player on December 12, 2023, 04:50:06 AM
BTC corrected and is now at $41,654 after rising strongly to $44,700. Yes. There are always surprises for the market and the market needs to be well measured and the recent surprise of US Senator Elizabeth Warren introduced legislation to "crack down" on Bitcoin and the crypto industry and bring it "into greater compliance. What does this mean?" Does it look like a cryptocurrency sale or purchase proposal again.

What it means is that legislations in the USA and the EU will try to control Bitcoin transactions in the same way they control banking transactions. Add to this the implementation of CBDCs and we are heading towards a world with total control and no privacy.

This makes me doubt the potential return that Bitcoin may have in the future, since the characteristics that made it attractive until now, such as the incensurability of transactions, can be lost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: yohananaomi on December 12, 2023, 04:50:22 AM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
The ATH that will occur will, of course, be bigger than the previous time, but the time is still quite long because the new halving era will occur in Q2 2024, and it is estimated that the ATH will probably occur in 2025.It is true that Bitcoin has now experienced quite a sharp increase if you look at it from the beginning of the year and has even almost touched $45K when we enter December 2023; unfortunately, it has fallen again quite significantly and is now at $41K+.It is possible that before the end of the year there will be an increase and reach the highest price for 2023, before there will be a correction to prepare for entering the halving era.I agree with you that it is not the time to give up your bitcoin savings now, because you just need a little patience to reach a higher price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: Silberman on December 12, 2023, 06:26:32 AM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
The ATH that will occur will, of course, be bigger than the previous time, but the time is still quite long because the new halving era will occur in Q2 2024, and it is estimated that the ATH will probably occur in 2025.It is true that Bitcoin has now experienced quite a sharp increase if you look at it from the beginning of the year and has even almost touched $45K when we enter December 2023; unfortunately, it has fallen again quite significantly and is now at $41K+.It is possible that before the end of the year there will be an increase and reach the highest price for 2023, before there will be a correction to prepare for entering the halving era.I agree with you that it is not the time to give up your bitcoin savings now, because you just need a little patience to reach a higher price.
While the cycle of bitcoin is now known by many more traders and investors, it is possible that it could change if the bitcoin ETF that people have been expecting to get approved gets in fact the green light, if this happened it would not surprise me if a new ATH was reached during the weeks after the announcement, and if this is the case then it could mean the current cycle and its arrival could be accelerated as many people decide to buy into bitcoin earlier than what we could have anticipated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: bounceback on December 12, 2023, 06:30:43 AM
Indeed many bad news in 2023 exactly SEC against many community of cryptocurrency but glad to see bitcoin success raised to most highest price this season until $44,000 depending on most lowest price $16,000. Overally Bitcoin was able to rise almost 120% in one year since the crash at the beginning of the year and the price of Bitcoin fell quite drastically to $16,000.
Have many days left before 2023 ended and we are seeing how potential of Bitcoin price will make new ATH for this year up to $50,000 or the latest highest price on $44,000.

Its good movement for bitcoin in one year have many bad news or FUD and hope upcoming next year and halving edition will make bitcoin can up more drastically like this years, wish bitcoin before or after halving can make new ATH record price history and raise to $100,000.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: jaberwock on December 13, 2023, 11:52:41 AM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
I think not often but I understand because life is going to be easy for us if that happens. Like you, many of us also believes that next year is much better than this year. I guess we already know why, so I don't want to mention it again. We still have 20 days left so there is still a chance that the price can rise more. With the performance Bitcoin is showing lately and going to show next year, I don't think many people are going to sell but they can actually buy more even though it's going to cost them a little more than usual. An ATH means All-Time-High, so obviously if one occurs, that price is going to be higher than the previous one/All-Time-High.


Title: Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far
Post by: justdimin on December 13, 2023, 06:31:01 PM
I admit that this year or the end of this year Bitcoin often provides surprises, but I am sure that in 2024 Bitcoin will provide a much bigger surprise. Even though recently the price of bitcoin has risen drastically and the current price of bitcoin may be the highest this year, don't sell the bitcoin you have. Most people believe that 2024 is a bullish year, and this could come true and Bitcoin will actually reach a new ATH which is much higher than the previous ATh.
I think not often but I understand because life is going to be easy for us if that happens. Like you, many of us also believes that next year is much better than this year. I guess we already know why, so I don't want to mention it again. We still have 20 days left so there is still a chance that the price can rise more. With the performance Bitcoin is showing lately and going to show next year, I don't think many people are going to sell but they can actually buy more even though it's going to cost them a little more than usual. An ATH means All-Time-High, so obviously if one occurs, that price is going to be higher than the previous one/All-Time-High.
With this year ending very soon, people will start buying even at the end of this year, to get ready for the future as well and that should be the most important part. I get that we are not going to end up with anything simple, but that should definitely be the thing that we profit from as well.

I believe that we will not make all that much changes in our life, and we can't really have all that much differences between 28th of December and 2nd of January, people who know that will end up investing quicker to get there first. That's the thing about bull runs, you have to position yourself earlier than anyone else and if you could do that then you are going to be able to get the most out of the situation, and will definitely profit more than anyone else.