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Title: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Hewlet on December 13, 2023, 07:26:53 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: SmartGold01 on December 13, 2023, 07:38:02 PM
Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Oshosondy on December 13, 2023, 07:41:30 PM
It would be good if we see a pinned thread that is about how not to be addicted while gambling. But to create a board for it, it is not necessary. We can discuss about addiction on gambling discussion board.

I still like the way it is, gambling addictions threads are often created on this board.

Correct me if I am wrong ..
What do you mean by this? This is all you post. Or is this a mistake?


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Wakate on December 13, 2023, 07:50:13 PM
I think there are many threads just like you have advised that deals with gambling addiction orientation and how to many gambling lifestyle as a newbie or old gambler. Mainly, we need to know that we are all responsible for our own decisions when we gamble because this we set our mindset that we are going to take full responsibility for our decisions if things go North or South.

Having a mental section or public orientation is a good approach for the new gamblers to have direct them on the ethics of gambling and how every gamblers can help each other not to get too addicted to gambling. Getting addiction in gambling is a gradual steps and if we keep it as pace, we might not realize that we are already a gambling addict. This is  one of the problems many gamblers face not knowing they are already a gambling addict.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on December 13, 2023, 07:52:42 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

Well the idea of creating a sub board that will discuss about the mental health and the responsibility of gamblers is a welcome development because most times gamblers tries to lose their guards or forget that gambling can be very addictive, so if there is a caution board that tries to always remind gamblers of the needs to have a straight mental health while gambling is a good idea. Though for every betting or gambling website, it is always stated that gambling is meant for people from the age of 18 years and above, so to a large extent you can also argue that the betting companies to try to give their own warning ahead of time, because it is believed that at the age of 18 and above you should have the mental capacity to handle some certain activities in your life or should be emotional matured.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: dothebeats on December 13, 2023, 07:58:26 PM
No need for a new sub board or topic. People here are constantly discussing gambling addiction and it already became an eyesore. You are in the gambling section, and you must understand that people here discuss gambling altogether. If gambling is too much for these newbies, they should seek help from a professional or someone they know personally and trust, and not from some random degenerates on the internet willingly discussing gambling and losing money daily.

I'm all for responsible gambling and preventing people to become gambling addicts but I know that this isn't the right avenue for that.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Ruttoshi on December 13, 2023, 08:02:03 PM
OP, there are lots of threads in the gambling board that talks about how a newbie can gamble without getting addicted and same advice is being repeated here over and over again. It is only people that don't take to advice that will become a victim to addition or people that see gambling as a means to make profit.

Let me outline some for you.
1. Only gamble with the amount that you can afford to lose

2. Don't see gambling as a means of making profit but rather take gambling as a means of entertainment so that you don't end up running at big loss because you will always loss more than winning.

3. Set a gamble budget for the week and once your budget has been exhausted, you wait for the next week gambling budget.

4. Don't borrow money to gamble because you will not be able to double the money through gambling and the lender might get you arrested.

5. Don't allow your emotions to control you when you are gambling so that you will not end up chasing your losses. Because chasing your loss will make you lose more and will also lead to addiction.

6. Set a time limit for your gambling activities so that once the time is over, you stop gambling either you are winning or losing.

All these information are being said here everyday and new gamblers should stick to them to avoid addiction.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: 348Judah on December 13, 2023, 08:05:52 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

We ar in an era of freedom to participate in anything we want to, gambling is not a means of making money or a means of getting one's destiny ruined, we need to take responsibility for ourselves when we are gambling, if we cannot care much of ourselves, then should we expect others to care for us than we could do for ourselves, when we are gambling, we are not owing anyone responsible of the way we gamble and if we got it right or wrong is left on us to face every consequences we see through our actions in gambling.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 13, 2023, 08:11:00 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I do agree that having a place where people can be made aware of the dangers of gambling would definitely be a good thing on this board, where there are so many gamblers. But I do not think that we need a separate board for this. A pinned topic however, would be more than sufficient, as someone in this topic already replied.

A pinned topic could serve as an overview which is constantly being updated with information about the newest dangers and pitfalls.

Although having said that, the only thing you really need in order to avoid the traps of gambling is human common sense and a little bit of discipline.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: electronicash on December 13, 2023, 08:14:59 PM
there are enough threads that resurface on the first page of the gambling section reminding users of gambling addiction. besides those new gamblers are already aware of how addictive casinos are and what the risks are especially when they win now and then. those threads are going to be a constant reminder to them.

there is no sticky thread for this one though so instead of a forum section for it, i think a noticeable sticky thread will do.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Iroh on December 13, 2023, 08:18:04 PM
Even if your request is granted and a sub board created for people to learn how to be more responsible in gambling. A lot of people won’t read it and for those who do, won’t heed to its advice and warnings.
They’ve been hundreds of threads on the gambling board talking about responsible gambling as well as stories of how irresponsible gambling can wreck someone’s life.

Just today, I read a thread about someone who took his life after gambling and losing some money. There are threads like those detailing real tales of different individuals. If they can’t read these threads, can we count on them to read it on a sub board?


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: komisariatku on December 13, 2023, 08:19:42 PM

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I think there's been a lot of discussion about gambling addiction and gambling responsibility. I think most people know the concept of gambling but fail to manage their emotions so they remain addicted to gambling and spend a lot of money. What gambling addicts need is professional help. Addicts usually don't want to take advice because they are too addicted

So whether there is a subboard about this or not, the result will be the same. Gambling addicts will not become responsible gamblers because there is a special subboard about it, because all they need is professional help


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: topbitcoin on December 13, 2023, 08:20:32 PM
Who isn't addicted to coming to a casino and gambling, because gambling is clearly a fun and promising activity. but all of that is a lie, because without good abilities, skills and knowledge when carrying out gambling activities, being able to get a profit from the gambling that is carried out is difficult. Without good self-control and good money control, this gambling activity will always become an activity that results in huge losses. And without a strong mentality to accept defeat at the end of the gambling game, gambling will never be a fun activity, because in the end it will just be a matter of regret. Regret for having behaved carelessly which ultimately caused significant losses.

And a person can become irresponsible for the gambling he does, this can happen because he does not have full control over the gambling he does, and what actually happens is the opposite, where he is the one who is controlled by the gambling. So he prioritizes and prioritizes his gambling activities above other interests and responsibilities.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 13, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
I think there are many threads just like you have advised that deals with gambling addiction orientation and how to many gambling lifestyle as a newbie or old gambler. Mainly, we need to know that we are all responsible for our own decisions when we gamble because this we set our mindset that we are going to take full responsibility for our decisions if things go North or South.

Having a mental section or public orientation is a good approach for the new gamblers to have direct them on the ethics of gambling and how every gamblers can help each other not to get too addicted to gambling. Getting addiction in gambling is a gradual steps and if we keep it as pace, we might not realize that we are already a gambling addict. This is  one of the problems many gamblers face not knowing they are already a gambling addict.

That's right, all decisions are only our own to manage about what decisions we will make and for the impact of the decision only we will feel it, people will not care about what you experience and also with what decisions you will make, so of course all responsibility is in your hands. Coming with the right mindset and direction along with a fairly awake mentality will keep you fine in your next gambling involvement, these basic things really have to be considered I think, because that will determine what your fate will be in the future. Honestly, these days I see more and more people getting into gambling addiction unconsciously, like you said everything goes gradually and their inability to realize some indications that could potentially lead to unwanted things makes them end up in the addiction zone. Basically some are aware and some are not, I think for anyone there is nothing wrong with doing a reset and evaluating their activities on gambling especially those who have been involved first, if indeed you find that there is a decline in your finances after knowing gambling then obviously changes must be made immediately.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: robelneo on December 13, 2023, 08:33:58 PM
It would be good if we see a pinned thread that is about how not to be addicted while gambling. But to create a board for it, it is not necessary. We can discuss about addiction on gambling discussion board.

I still like the way it is, gambling addictions threads are often created on this board.

I voted for a pinned thread related to the subject there's no need to create another sub-board for gambling, this section is getting criticism because of too much spam creating another board will create more spam, and besides so many subjects about gambling addiction and cured have been discussed we are pretty loaded on that subject and we don't need something that will increase it further.
You know what we are talking about if you have been actively participating in this section


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: letteredhub on December 13, 2023, 08:35:01 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

Well the idea of creating a sub board that will discuss about the mental health and the responsibility of gamblers is a welcome development because most times gamblers tries to lose their guards or forget that gambling can be very addictive, so if there is a caution board that tries to always remind gamblers of the needs to have a straight mental health while gambling is a good idea. Though for every betting or gambling website, it is always stated that gambling is meant for people from the age of 18 years and above, so to a large extent you can also argue that the betting companies to try to give their own warning ahead of time, because it is believed that at the age of 18 and above you should have the mental capacity to handle some certain activities in your life or should be emotional matured.
a sub board for the gambling section dedicated to guide new gamblers to gamble responsibly is not necessary we already have lots of posts in the gambling board that discusses about addiction and ways to eliminate it, seek support and many points of orientation regarding that. Even if we are to make a pin post on the gambling board about mental health and responsible gambling I wonder which posts exactly are we going to use as pinned post when there are a numerous of posts here in the gambling board that already address such issues. Just like one of the comment above, I agree that anyone interested in getting to know about responsible gambling can just make use of the search button and many similar posts will pop up. A sub board will only give room for more repeated posts of same nature as we do see in the main gambling board. So no need and it's not a welcome development.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Zoomic on December 13, 2023, 08:35:26 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

Just like we have the beginners and help board where newbies go to to read all they need to know about the forum and find solution to technical issues,  it will also be nice having a sub board that concentrates on enlightening newbies and even old players in the industry about the need to protect their mental health and the right things to do to stay safe health wise. Also, a board that seeks to proffer solution for people battling euth one form of gambling related issue that affects the general wellbeing/performance of the gambler.

Many people think only those who are addicted suffer most of these challenges,  no! That's not true. A person who is not addicted can suffer health problems as a result of over anxiety and maybe shock arising from a loss they incured, or from their inability to control their emotions.  This is a very critical issue which many people tend to overlook.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Stalker22 on December 13, 2023, 08:40:54 PM
I have seen a bunch of posts and topics talking about gambling addiction and responsible gambling.  And,  I feel like there is actually quite a bit of content already available if you search around on tips for gambling responsibly and avoiding addiction.  Just use the search or google to find posts related to whatever specific aspect of responsible gambling you are looking to learn about. 

For example, some talk about setting a strict budget and walking away when youve hit your limit, rather than chasing losses.  Others discuss figuring out your motivations - are you in it for entertainment or do you harbor unrealistic hopes of big payouts? Getting clear on why you gamble can help keep things in check.  Theres also advice on taking breaks and not letting it take over your whole life. 

Anyway, lots of angles already covered if you poke around.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Wiwo on December 13, 2023, 08:42:40 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read. It 7i

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be given.
The thing is that the forum has done a enough according to my own perspective to have created the gambling board for us to discuss everything concerning gambling and it is only left for the individual member to adhere to all the principles as it being discussed here about gambling and its risk,  most especially for newbies,  who may have not had the time to build the necessary knowledge that will help them to make better-informed decisions and in most cases, it all has resulted unto negative experience for them on the long run if they failed to properly learn all the steps that are needed to have better gaming process and how best it can help them to make better gambling decisions.

So for sure,  the forum is well equipped enough for us to be able to navigate our way through at all times and come up with something that can be helpful as a guide towards responsible gambling.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on December 13, 2023, 08:43:03 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler.
We have the "Gambling board" already where all kinds of gambling related discussion are been made daily, hence, requesting for the creation of a similar board, to me I see it as a misplace of priority, as it's really not needed right now, due to the fact that only if you are above to make good use of the "Search Button", you will release that the the already existing gambling board has go all a person could need so as to enable him/her gamble responsibly, with a good example of reputable casinos where you can gamble, while been rest assured of having fun security.

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It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
The already existing gambling sub board has got all you need to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 13, 2023, 08:45:43 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I don't think we need that kind of sub-boards though. Yes, we have a dedicated gambling thread here, and bitcoin first root or it's first use case is through gambling. But I don't think that this is purely dedicated to gambling, there are investors and I think there's a lot of responsible gamblers here.

So this might be for a good cause, but Theymos might not approved of this. Besides, in this board we can discuss everything under the sun, including gambling addiction and others and members are giving those who seek help a good advise already.

@Zoomic and just like the B&H board, there was also a request to deal with securities and other stuff, but so far it hasn't been approved if I remember it correctly, Discussion: "Cybersecurity and Privacy" board + Poll (request v1) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434404.0)


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Sakanwa on December 13, 2023, 08:55:21 PM
Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: alani123 on December 13, 2023, 09:20:31 PM
Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Winterfrost on December 13, 2023, 09:49:14 PM
Although this is a very commendable suggestion that should be looked into, I don't think that it is necessary to create a full sub board to addressing the issue of responsible gambling. What we should be looking out for should to create a thread that is well detailed and contains guide and regulations that will encourage responsible gambling and then it could just be pinned at the top of this gambling board for all members to go through and engage in positively.

If you've observed the post we have on the board, you will find a lot of them that had address the issue of responsible gambling and some has outlined guide and details that will help one not to get addicted into gambling and I feel that if you keenly go through them, you should gain the needed knowledge you require and their won't be a serious need for the creation of sub board.

My humble opinion though.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: danherbias07 on December 13, 2023, 09:51:45 PM
I don't believe beginners need guidance and tutors when it comes to gambling. As long as they are in the right mind and discipline, they will learn things on their own. I've never had anyone to teach me about being a responsible gambler, it's just there because I was raised like that.
Here is the real problem, most new gamblers came from this era where the traditional discipline is gone. Military discipline. Even if a person didn't come from a military family. I don't see that much anymore and parents who use that method are certainly slowly diminishing as time flies by. Most kids today are spoiled brats, I can say it because I can see it from my kids. They are greedy and they cry with a little bit of a problem and that's where the real problem will come when they start gambling.

About creating a thread about explaining this to newbies, well, you could've done that instead of this. You don't really need our permission because anyone can create their own thread but the gambling discussions are certainly pouring with lots of talks about gambling addiction and other stuff about it. And I won't worry about members who will share their knowledge because there are good members here scattered all over the forum.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Assface16678 on December 13, 2023, 10:25:07 PM
Although this is a very commendable suggestion that should be looked into, I don't think that it is necessary to create a full sub board to addressing the issue of responsible gambling. What we should be looking out for should to create a thread that is well detailed and contains guide and regulations that will encourage responsible gambling and then it could just be pinned at the top of this gambling board for all members to go through and engage in positively.

If you've observed the post we have on the board, you will find a lot of them that had address the issue of responsible gambling and some has outlined guide and details that will help one not to get addicted into gambling and I feel that if you keenly go through them, you should gain the needed knowledge you require and their won't be a serious need for the creation of sub board.

My humble opinion though.
True! There's no need to create a section or sub-threat in this forum about what the OP's concerned about, because if you look around this gambling discussion section, you will see a lot of topics about gambling addiction, how to stop gambling addiction, discipline towards gambling, and many more related to gambling and addiction to it, so there's no need to sweat. In fact, in this section of the forum, the "gambling discussion," most of the topics are about that concern, so even without other sections, you will see different stories or shares of experience about how they've gone through gambling addiction.

And also, even with creating a separate section about gambling addiction, you are not sure if all the stories are true. I also notice that some of the topics about gambling experience are hard to believe and sound like make-up stories, so imagine a section in the forum full of scripted experiences about gambling addiction.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Slow death on December 13, 2023, 10:25:44 PM
In my opinion, I think it is unnecessary to create a thread about this, I have this opinion because it is unlikely that people will play in a moderate way, responsibly just because they read on this forum that they need to play in moderation. people play because they see other people who play and post photos of them winning a lot, so it would be difficult to convince people with just words, I'll give an example, let's imagine that in this forum they have a section that warns people about responsible gambling and the consequences of playing irresponsibly and with money that you cannot afford to lose

so people will read this and they will be scared and they will be playing responsibly, but when they look at a video of someone saying that they put 500$ in the casino and played to the point of making 10,000$ in profit, then at the same time those people who If they read about responsible gaming, they will forget everything they read and will start playing a lot to make a lot of money. If one day we asked 1000 people a question and asked them to answer honestly and without fear of someone criticizing them, we would ask them: why do they play?

I believe the answer to this question will be: they play because they dream of winning a lot of money. in the same way that people keep buying lottery tickets in the hope that one day they will get the winning ticket and become very rich, and the same thing that many people hope for when they play in a physical casino or when they play in an online casino, just see that sports bettors prefer to keep making multibet bets with very high odds because that way when they get something right they will be able to win a lot of money, in my country for example bettors have prioritized multibet bets with very high odds, they prefer to constantly lose by keeping multibet bets, but they believe that the day they get it right it will pay off


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Quidat on December 13, 2023, 11:10:01 PM
Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.

Use your own common sense and you would be safe because if you dont make yourself that too mindful with the actions you are making then you are really that susceptible into the things like
addiction on which you would really be that impulsive on the time that you are dealing with it and this is something that must be avoided. New gamblers or players would really be commonly be experiencing that kind of emotion and mindset on which it is normal that we would really be somewhat delusional when it comes to motives and aims.
Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible on the actions that you are making.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Yatsan on December 13, 2023, 11:56:41 PM
Yes it would help but it just depends to the gamblers whether they would be having the initiative to interact in such board in this forum. If it is just discussions, there are too many to engage however if you just feel like you don't then you won't. There are even articles outside this forum, warnings we see from different platforms, but why do people still become a victim of gambling addiction? 'coz things won't work that way. Instead of  asking such discussion about how to escape from addiction, we should be more preventive of the exposure.But again, if the gambler is not as willing as with us, then no action will make sense 'coz they will just continue doing their thing until they reach addiction on their own. Things are in our hands.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Zlantann on December 14, 2023, 01:24:45 AM
I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I don't think that having a board dedicated to helping newbies avoid gambling addiction is wrong but it is not very important. I don't also think there is any week that a topic about gambling addiction is not discussed in the gambling section. If the newbie constantly visits this section, I don't think he will be a victim of gambling addiction. New gamblers could also use the search option in the forum to gather relevant information on how to gamble responsibly. In this current computer age, information can be derived from the internet with ease. People should also be willing to take time to research any activity they wish to engage in. The basic information on how to avoid gambling addiction is very simple and these principles can be found in almost all the gambling discussions in this forum. However, the suggestion of OP is also valid.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: junder on December 14, 2023, 01:40:03 AM
Correct me if I am wrong ..
There are series of post that has talked about gambling addiction and how to gamble responsible or how to equip yourself before finally involving oneself into gambling to avoid gambling addiction. I think there are plenty content related to that if I am not mistakenly there was a day I tried finding out some useful information about gambling it was then I noticed that this section has been flooded with all many of post concerning gambling it's just left for you to use the search option to know what you want or what kind of information you needed related to gambling.
I know related topics like this has been made,and so many people have spoken about it,which is to say that there are informations that can guild one on this,but nevertheless,for Newbies to avoid  making mistakes and stories that touches,they must come in contact with informations like this,and useful advice that people have given which will further enlighten them on the the topics they seek.
But if I am to give any advice to a newbie on this topic,it will be on how to set your mind while gambling,and what to know about gambling.It is very vital to know that gambling is not a guarantee source of money,because it is risky,and only those who have determined to take the risk can stand the chance of winning.

Use your own common sense and you would be safe because if you dont make yourself that too mindful with the actions you are making then you are really that susceptible into the things like
addiction on which you would really be that impulsive on the time that you are dealing with it and this is something that must be avoided. New gamblers or players would really be commonly be experiencing that kind of emotion and mindset on which it is normal that we would really be somewhat delusional when it comes to motives and aims.
Gambling isnt bad as long you do make yourself that responsible on the actions that you are making.

It's true, many of them gamble so much that they lose their minds and make them addicted to gambling. of course, gambling addiction is not a good thing, because most people who are addicted to gambling will experience many harmful things such as major money, health, relationships and time. especially with new gamblers, maybe they will get a win at the beginning where this victory makes them excited about gambling and usually this initial victory is easy to get.

A new gambler also usually in my opinion they will follow their greed, where in the next gamble they are likely to lose and this makes them gamble again because they follow their own feelings of greed, emotion and curiosity. and this is likely to make every new gambler addicted. it's true what you said, gambling is not wrong if we have responsibility and limits on the actions we take.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: uneng on December 14, 2023, 02:21:12 AM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
As I see, it's really hard that new boards or sub-boards are created on this forum. Personally, I've already suggested the creation of a sub-board years ago, and I had massive negative replies to my proposal. What happens is that forum members think it's good how it already is, without removing or adding anything.

Regards your suggestion, it could be easily said that we already have gambling board and gambling discussion sub-board, which are sections where the matters of responsible gambling, mental health orientations on gambling practices, challenges and personal experiences faced by gamblers, ethics on gambling industry and so on can be discussed (and in fact, they currently are).

Maybe for a matter of organization your idea is good, but it's really unlikely you would have support from other members, especially staff ones, to do so.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: len01 on December 14, 2023, 04:24:36 AM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
It seems like there is no need to create a thread or sub-board about gambling responsibly because there have been many threads discussing this for a long time and for me, even if there is a sub-board that provides education about gambling responsibly, it will only be in vain because all of this is just about how the mindset of a gambler and when a novice gambler comes to gambling just wanting to try his luck and already knows how gambling works I think novice gamblers will not suffer from the bad effects of gambling but if a novice gambler comes to gambling only with the hope of doubling their money and without any knowledge of course he will continue to gamble recklessly without thinking about what gambling responsibly is.
beginner gamblers should be aware before doing anything, at least find out about something they want to do, such as if they want to gamble, they should find out what the risks of gambling are, whether they always win or always lose and look for things like this, you can use a search engine, type in keywords and everything. already there he can understand it in several of these articles.

I really understand your good intentions in helping other people by making a thread like that, but as I said, it all depends on each person mindset, even if you have read the thread, if your mind is already curious, you will definitely ignore the thread you are going to make, and my suggestion is that you dont you need to do anything, just always tell anyone who asks you to explain before starting gambling about the negative effects of gambling.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: aioc on December 14, 2023, 09:42:03 AM


 ..so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

For every discussion here there will always pop up a discussion about mental health and a guide to avoiding gambling we have so many threads about this and it is part of the gambling discussion too, if we create another sub-board we will have many of same topics, and on gambling discussions and your proposed mental orientation, so I don't there's a need for that and besides this forum is all about talks about Bitcoin, it just so happen that casinos are using Bitcoin, so we have a board for gambling.
There are a lot of repetitive discussions here on this board adding one more board we will have two topics of the same kind of the two boards so there's no need and it's useless.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: coin-investor on December 14, 2023, 09:55:23 AM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling
Creating a request for an additional subboard should be requested in the meta section but I don't recommend that you move or create a thread for your request because it will not be welcome, because the gambling section is full of redundant topics and discussion

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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
We have hundreds of threads for this and every week there's always a discussion about mental health and gambling concerns sometimes there are topics about sports betting and dice games that will direct to topics about mental health and gambling concerns it will just mess up the whole board so we are already good that we have two boards, adding more will mess up everything.

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I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be given.
I discouraged this and I'm sure I'm not the only one besides, this is not a gambling forum it's a Bitcoin forum.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Ultegra134 on December 14, 2023, 10:01:34 AM
Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.
This is probably the most accurate reply. Gambling addiction is real and is often paired with other mental illnesses that may or may not have led to becoming addicted to every available form—gambling, alcohol, you name it. First of all, I don't find it necessary; the discussion board is open to any kind of gambling-related topic, and I don't think there's a need for a separate section. Most importantly, though, mental illnesses and addictions are serious matters that require assistance from professionals. Although I believe that the majority of users here would have good intentions if something relevant was posted, it's a trivial matter that should be trusted to professionals; the wrong kind of advice can easily take a turn for the worse, and there's no need for that.

No need to mention anything regarding promotions and other interests as alani123 already mentioned, I think we all understand what is implied.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: angrybirdy on December 14, 2023, 10:08:34 AM
Getting advice from non experts can lead to some harmful circumstances.

If someone comes to the point of being a problem gambler and facing addiction, it's always best to seek accredited help from professionals, join group therapy in a recognized organization etc.

So I don't think it would be a good idea to create such section of the forum. Let alone all the promotion and interests going on here. For problem gsmblers it's best to abstain.


well said! for non experts, It's a little bit diffucult for us to give an advice because we are aware that every people has a different perspective, Challenges and problems and we can't assess that by simply listening to their stories. So, this public orientation idea is much better and helpful once implemented and I hope proffesional advice will be given since some people doesn't have much money for consultation and professional fee.,


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on December 14, 2023, 10:27:38 AM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Churchillvv on December 14, 2023, 10:25:47 PM
Since this suggestion has been raise severally and it has not been welcomed I will only have to suggest that if you sincerely want to do something good about mental health on gambling instead of creating a sub board, you can bring up all the threads that discussed about the mental health issues in a list and create an interesting thread to be pin here in gambling discussion.

Correct me if I am wrong ..
What do you mean by this? This is all you post. Or is this a mistake?
I guess his a fan of the great philosopher Socrates that claims the famous statement "I know not what means I know nothing". His trying to say his not perfect with that. Lol


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: swogerino on December 14, 2023, 10:33:10 PM
I don't think mental orientation is needed for new gamblers but rather is needed for both new and experienced gamblers who are deep down into addiction.They both need mental guide or some program where they both will be treated mentally in order to save themselves from this illness.

Public orientation is all over the place in the sense that everywhere,even when gambling sites make an ad on TV or radio they end it with gamble responsibly and generally in the public the perceived idea for gambling is bad so there is not much need for a public orientation,however if it can be improved it can do a better work for these type of gamblers.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Taskford on December 14, 2023, 10:37:59 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

For so many times this addiction topic has been discussed for so many times here and I guess that's enough since it will just give a load of work to the administrators and also I don't think this is really necessary since we can talk about everything about gambling and addiction is included with this on gambling discussion section.

Maybe a single dedicated thread just like the same or having similar with "wall of observer btc/usd" thread on speculation section and all related to addiction topic and advice will be place properly. Responsible gambling is really needed and its important to read some good information about it so its good if we have easy to grab thread where we can read that informations and advices easily.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Johnyz on December 14, 2023, 10:42:25 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.
It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Winterfrost on December 14, 2023, 10:48:39 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.
It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.
That would be helpful if all casino sites would accept this. But I think their privacy, terms and policies on all gambling sites. All information is written there to help new users to adhere to the rules and not fall for misinformation. Some gambling sites also have blogs where they topics for beginners are being shared on the public.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Accardo on December 14, 2023, 10:51:51 PM
Setting up a mental health board in a forum where there are no or few mental health practitioners or psychotherapists to help addicts, won't offer enough help to the victims who complain in the section. I'd suggest that the gambling discussion board is enough. The general discussion would help the victim and also maintain the fact that the instructions or discussion isn't from a professional, but crypto enthusiast interested in gambling. There are lots of gambling sites where therapists share ideas regarding addiction. Gambling addicts can easily visit the sites, it rank on Google's first page in the mental health keywords. Op's idea is great, but gambling addiction isn't something that a substandard contribution on a Bitcoin forum would be able to solve. I mean it's rare for an addicted gambler to get a cure through online discussions. Even the mental health sites can only share a few first-aid ideas and then redirect the victim to a therapist.

Therefore, the board you want to be added to the forum will only be less active, as every other issue regarding gambling; addiction, strategy, etc fits into this board. However, addicted newbies feel reluctant to openly share their problems, but could summon the courage to share it online. At least gamblers who have gone through addiction can share their healing process with the newbie and he'd begin to apply it in his daily life. Like any other response above, reading this board is enough for any kind of advice an addict requires to begin his healing process as a gambling addict. In a nutshell, I'd prefer that they undergo this process with professionals in the mental health field. Which will speed up their healing process. The advice shared here is of different perspectives and not all would be useful to the addicted player.  And he'll have a hard time choosing whose advice to abide by, or hard time winnowing out the useful ones from the loads of advice that'll be shared.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: TelolettOm on December 14, 2023, 11:02:33 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
This is a pretty good idea. but actually, we can find many threads related to gambling addiction, treatment, prevention, and so on. The problem is do these beginners want to learn or read these various threads and information? Well, this is the problem. Not only in this forum but on various platforms and media, we can find various things to prevent gambling addiction. However, the problem is that many people are trapped in addiction because they are not ready from the start, ready in various ways, including managing emotions and desires. So they are easily influenced by the desire to continue gambling. In this case, it is undeniable that if they enter the world of gaming without proper knowledge, insight and consideration with wise emotional and financial management skills, they will be more susceptible to gambling addiction.

It started very simply, because they got a win at the beginning of gambling which then made them believe that their luck in gambling was very high, so they wanted to place bets again and again. without thinking further if they have already spent a lot of money on gambling. And their inability to control their emotions and desire to gamble is what causes many people to become addicted to gambling and it is difficult to cure it.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: goaldigger on December 14, 2023, 11:06:42 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.
It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.
This is a good suggestion and its like having a quiz first and you have to passed it before you can actually enjoy the whole features of the platform. If they will also asked questions about their rules and terms, I’m sure many gamblers will be forced to read it and they will be more aware about the casino itself. Having another section specifically for gambling here might not help at all, many will surely not talked about it especially if all about rules, suggestions and opinions because gamblers want to talk more about results and predictions here.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: samcrypto on December 14, 2023, 11:22:28 PM
It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.
This might discourage new players to gamble on the site but this can be a big help and I also support this one.
Having the first tour about the site, giving out information about gambling in general can be a big help to prevent excessive gambling and addiction.

This is just like an orientation when you got a new job, it's the company responsibility to give information about policies. This can also be implemented on the casinos, since we all know not all new comers are reading the terms and conditions and it's actually there for a formality only.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: lionheart78 on December 14, 2023, 11:42:56 PM
I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

I think the gambling discussion is enough to cover your concern.  There had been lots of thread created about gambling and addictions.  In the same way, a person in a confusion can open a thread to ask for advice about his gambling activities on this gambling discussion board and members will surely hop in, trying to help in solving the issue laid by the threas OP.

So I also do not think that there is a need for a separate board for public orientation for new gamblers.  Most probably a pinned thread can do.  This way those who are lazy searching the forum can easily find the topic at the top of the thread discussion posted.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Iroh on December 14, 2023, 11:55:30 PM
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.

I couldn’t agree more. It would be full of spam and irrelevant information. All the advise one would ever need against irresponsible gambling has been already posted on here. People just need to search and read the numerous threads in various topics concerning irresponsible gambling.
Asides all of that, even if there were to be a thread concerning all these, a lot old people could ignore the sub board as they’ve ignored these threads stating more or less the same thing.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Kemarit on December 15, 2023, 12:38:36 AM
That thread if it is ever created will be a place of spam. All that anyone need to know about gambling and how to gamble safely is here. The search button is a tool that if used effectively will provide links to all the topics on gambling and mental health, the stories that a beginner need to be aware of.

I couldn’t agree more. It would be full of spam and irrelevant information. All the advise one would ever need against irresponsible gambling has been already posted on here. People just need to search and read the numerous threads in various topics concerning irresponsible gambling.
Asides all of that, even if there were to be a thread concerning all these, a lot old people could ignore the sub board as they’ve ignored these threads stating more or less the same thing.

Yeah, that's one problem as well that majority of us will agree, unless there's someone who will allot his time to watch that board and clean it up, it will be a nightmare for moderators and maybe we will lose the essence of having that board in the first place.

Just discuss everything here and we will be ok. And as we can see, there's thread here that sometimes pop up and discusses the mental health issues and we have seen members giving good advise as well. It's just to the OP on how he will take those suggestions and advises.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Ever-young on December 15, 2023, 12:55:52 AM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

How many number of gamblers come to this forum day by day I mean not already existing members of the forum but those who just come in here as a result of them wanting to start gambling, you will see that the number is less which means even if such orientation is to be set we only don’t such active here but gambling sites or government of some countries should make it necessary to educate the youth about the danger of gambling addiction if possible they can be sharing flyers and banner with detail information about testimonies from experience gamblers so that they can learn from there.

Ads on gambling sites and casino regarding such could also be very helpful as they can just pop up on users face when ever they want to visit any casino it will not be left with them to either study about what have been shown to them or play a blind eyes to it.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 15, 2023, 01:00:47 AM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.


A valid point if I am asked!

People will consider it of high demand when it comes to live. You know, there exists no system of regulating and counselling people before they adventure into the gambling space.

Just like been warned about the dangers of getting involved in a partiular trade, people adventuring into it are more informed and are armed for any danger that might arise.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Accardo on December 15, 2023, 08:18:58 AM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

How many number of gamblers come to this forum day by day I mean not already existing members of the forum but those who just come in here as a result of them wanting to start gambling, you will see that the number is less which means even if such orientation is to be set we only don’t such active here but gambling sites or government of some countries should make it necessary to educate the youth about the danger of gambling addiction if possible they can be sharing flyers and banner with detail information about testimonies from experience gamblers so that they can learn from there.

Ads on gambling sites and casino regarding such could also be very helpful as they can just pop up on users face when ever they want to visit any casino it will not be left with them to either study about what have been shown to them or play a blind eyes to it.

I don't think you're right with the first few lines of your response. This forum is a high DA site and any thread shared on this board ranks immediately on Google. People who search using the keyword associated with the topics in this board visit this forum in enormous numbers. The forum generates over 1 million visitors each month. So, don't think that only a few people visit the gambling board, the gambling board is a place where visitors read reviews on different cryptocurrency casinos before depositing money into the casino. Your other suggestions are great. Governments in countries like Australia are working strides ahead to help mentally disordered gamblers suffering from addiction. Such people need adequate attention to save them from this struggle. Many harm themselves physically by wasting funds meant for other financial responsibilities on gambling. Depression and anxiety eat their joy up and leave them lonely and neglected.

In the society of today, people are offered different forms of difficulties from hikes in prices of commodities to low weekly salaries. They'll hardly focus on helping depressed gamblers. Instead, they'll blame the person for their problem, which puts the addicted gambler in a more severe problem. Even when in therapy the gambler still has to suffer from the treatments he got from close relatives who neglected his problems and didn't care for him. These challenges also push the gambler out of therapy, as he'll think nobody would be able to help him except himself. Gambling addiction isn't a type of addiction to cure alone. So, the sharing of flyers in society could only have a minor effect on helping mentally disordered gamblers. It can still build up the number of addicts in society, as, no bad publicity. Whether it teaches the disadvantage of gambling, publicity remains publicity, newbies who haven't heard or read of gambling would give it a shot. Take sexual intercourse for example, the more its disadvantages like STDs are spread across on radios and TVs the more people engage in it.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 15, 2023, 08:54:29 AM
If you're make a request for the administrator to add mental section in this forum, then you need to move this topic to Meta, not here. This board discuss about gambling discussion, not to ask something for the forum.

There was someone make a request about this similar discussion Suggestion: Gambling > Gambling Awareness board  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438327.msg61717258#msg61717258), until now there's no action yet.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Z390 on December 15, 2023, 09:12:01 AM
We gamblers talks about gambling addiction everyday, its like something we must do for the safety of other begginers, so I don't think we need any sub board for becoming a responsible gambler, what I am pretty sure of is that gambler who are starting their journey with no actual experinece about gambling is highly expose to getting addicted compare to someone who fully understand the dangers awaiting them, they will play safer compare to someone who knows nothing.

Another crazy thing is if the beginner play his first game and win, such person can easily lose his mind in gambling, they will make up their minds that gambling is the way and people don't just know it, or they might believe that gambling choose them as someone special.

So far, too many people have bad stories to share about gambling and out of a thousand gambler only a hundred must have win a lot more than they win, majority of gamblers are not doing so well, they have high expectations which makes them to gamble anyhow and lose money, as a beginner please know that the house always win, be careful how you risk your money.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: slapper on December 15, 2023, 12:17:37 PM
Your concept meets an unseen need in the gambling community: a place to learn and share responsible gambling. We agree that gambling is a complicated interaction of emotions, decisions, and consequences. So let's start with a topic or sub-board where veterans and beginners provide advice and caution. Creating a culture of accountability and support goes beyond education. Here, myths are refuted and hard facts balance gambling's appeal

New gambler Anna enters the world of gambling. She uses this thread as a compass. Her guiding stars are Tom's stories of balancing and learning the hard way. This forum is a classroom, support group, and reality check. Game-changer. This topic can become a responsible gambling movement. Act on it, not simply think about it. The change in gambling perception and behavior could be huge. Responsible gambling should be the norm


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: avp2306 on December 15, 2023, 12:38:29 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.


A valid point if I am asked!

People will consider it of high demand when it comes to live. You know, there exists no system of regulating and counselling people before they adventure into the gambling space.

Just like been warned about the dangers of getting involved in a partiular trade, people adventuring into it are more informed and are armed for any danger that might arise.

Maybe really have some point on other point of view but do they really allow that to happen? Some language doesn't have their own local board yet so for sure this plan to created a sub section intended for gambling health discussion or anything would get approved. There's a lot of way to talk about this and maybe they admins or mods would say that it is enough already.

But if they can make this plan to happen then this is good idea actually since it can make people easily locate that board to seek for a topic that can possible help them regarding on the issue they are facing especially on gambling addiction which they are heavily bringing.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: goinmerry on December 15, 2023, 12:57:18 PM
so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I understand what you are trying to achieve but personally in my opinion, and believe me, something like that will not work. Even with enough guidance and advise, the future of these new gamblers will depend on their respective own approach. Only them can help themselves to become a responsible gamblers while progressing on their gambling activity.

An addicted gambler won't bother to read threads like that as they already under on the trap of gambling.

I admire your initiative but maybe just try to always help those you think in need around you or in your local community.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: TravelMug on December 15, 2023, 01:06:44 PM
If you're make a request for the administrator to add mental section in this forum, then you need to move this topic to Meta, not here. This board discuss about gambling discussion, not to ask something for the forum.

There was someone make a request about this similar discussion Suggestion: Gambling > Gambling Awareness board  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438327.msg61717258#msg61717258), until now there's no action yet.

Yes, Theymos doesn't really give to those demands though, I mean this is forum is to discuss BTC. In any case, this board could be enough for us gamblers. We have threads about how to cope with our addiction, mental section to cope with it and a lot of thread that just relate everything to gambling per se. And if I'm not mistaken, almost all crypto related gambling sites have self-exclusion programs already. So I guess it might be enough for them to stop. And I don't think that we have some professional here that might answer those who need help as far gambling affecting their mental help. Maybe it's better if they will seek communities that really focuses on this kind of problems and issues, just saying. The best thing we can do is to provide those gamblers phone numbers that they can reach if they wanted to talk to someone regarding their mental health.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: tsaroz on December 15, 2023, 01:08:43 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

There are a number of threads regarding that here. There are also a  number of organization working in the field of rehabilitating and giving psychological counseling to gambling addicts.
The one place where improvements can be done are the gambling sites themselves. They should have clear and suggestive message to gamble responsibly and give instruction how to get help if they are hurting themselves. There should also be an option of vault where user can keep their coins so that they don't rage bet all and there could be an option to set your daily, weekly and or monthly budget you be able to loose.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 15, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
Why should it need a separate board when there is not much to discuss about it? We don't have to discuss about gambling addiction everyday.

It is enough that gamblers are aware of the kind of illness they could get from uncontrolled gambling. I guess everybody knows about it. Even without being briefed on it by a professional, gamblers know that when they go beyond their limit, it could mean they lose a lot more than they thought. That's something every gambler has experienced. It's either they do something about it or it grow worse.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: nara1892 on December 15, 2023, 01:24:00 PM

It might help at first but sooner or later, beginners will just ignore it again.

What if a casino site requires every gambler to read the beginners guidelines and instructions before they can use the platform? By doing this at least they spreading knowledge about gamblers and they can help beginners to actually understand gambling and how risky it is. This might be a big hassle at first but its impact can last forever.
This is a good suggestion and its like having a quiz first and you have to passed it before you can actually enjoy the whole features of the platform. If they will also asked questions about their rules and terms, I’m sure many gamblers will be forced to read it and they will be more aware about the casino itself. Having another section specifically for gambling here might not help at all, many will surely not talked about it especially if all about rules, suggestions and opinions because gamblers want to talk more about results and predictions here.

Yes, I also quite agree with that suggestion, basically in any case usually humans don't like the name of the rule, usually they will prefer to ignore it and don't care whether it is important or not. But if all the directions for an understanding in gambling are applied by force, with the scenario that if they do not read it correctly or cannot fill in the questions correctly then they will not be able to enter gambling to get involved.

It is quite difficult but usually everything starts with coercion which will make them feel forced and finally get used to it, with that method then I am sure that at least it can help to expand their understanding and insight into all the rules that exist in gambling, especially in terms of risk.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Saisher on December 15, 2023, 01:29:21 PM
If you hold a poll here, the majority will not agree that we have another board here, it will mess up all the topics about gambling, some topics should be for the announcement but some members still create discussions about problems and strategies for gambling, it's enough that we have two boards other members will think that the gambling section is being given by the management too much attention for creating more boards for it.
Gambling boards are a busy section but we don't to add more to avoid spam and unnecessary discussions.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: hyudien on December 15, 2023, 01:32:11 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.
Is this like a mentor who directs beginners to gamble with the guidance of certain people who are experienced? I don't think this will work, because generally novice gamblers want to explore each gambling game in their own way betting even aggressively. I have been in this position where there is a beginner who is gambling. I advise not to bet large amounts, direct him to games with minimum bets, but what is the answer? just keep quiet it's up to me to bet a large or small amount and don't interfere. Here it is clear that we cannot be involved in other people's gambling let alone give directions. Because for them it is considered a nuisance.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Wexnident on December 15, 2023, 02:35:33 PM
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Nah. Do you honestly think a ragtag bunch of people in the internet would be a lot better in terms of mental health help in comparison to institutions with ample funding, people, and education (for helping and aiding in improving mental health)? Nah I don't think so. This forum can help with people releasing or telling their story, letting something off their chest but anything past that is rather unreliant to even be considered as a form of help. Sure, you can accept advice, but in the end it'd still need some sort or form of rumination, and not something you'd willingly accept unlike with professional help.

But well if it's just a hub for story telling, heck why not. Though to be fair, gambling discussion is already as such.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Gozie51 on December 15, 2023, 03:02:07 PM
I believe that gambling addiction is self explanatory or educational. Whoever is visiting the game house and betting but losing yet kept visiting the place and betting without stopping knows that he is addicted and knows he should stop. If you are unable to stop while you want to stop then you already know you are addicted. So I don't think we need a different board on it, moreover there are different threads started whose contributions are always going towards addictions and what remedy to take.

Except there could be threads pinned on this board for easy access to learn what addiction.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Latviand on December 15, 2023, 03:15:09 PM
We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on December 15, 2023, 03:24:18 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

People get addicted to gambling based on how they view it. Even beginners, gambling doesn’t need a guide; you will be the one to guide yourself through. So I think people get addicted to gambling if they view it as a source of income that they will be using to meet their needs. You will see that those people are the ones that gamble every day or by any means just to get money and feed themselves and their families. However, some people gamble for fun and do not become addicted; these people do it with sense; they don’t just gamble for money.

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so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling,

If you have any educational resources for gambling addiction, drop them in the gambling discussion section. As you can see, the forum is well designed, and with a bunch of boards and topics, drop what you have on the board that will suit your content. I don’t think it’s necessary for us to have another additional board. If you drop it here, I think it will be better since it is also talking about gambling.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: bluebit25 on December 15, 2023, 03:29:06 PM
We know that gambling can be very addictive for people who might not be going about it responsibly and that if most beginner are not properly guided by experienced individual that have heard a share of their personal experience in irresponsible gambling,  they will become a victim of gambling addiction and might have a marred thought process as it regards safe gambling

 so I'm thinking if it would be possible for a thread or sub board to be created in the form of a mental  orientation section that people can just visit and go through ethics of responsible gambling, share experiences and current challenges faced as a gambler. It could just be used for discussions regarding responsible gambling and do if ones goes through the board or thread, while starting or going about his gambling, their will be check in his jar it as a result of peoples lives experiences he has read.

I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

Not necessarily, because the objective perspective of human cognitive psychology is different despite the general level of addiction, but within the problem of gambling addiction itself, there are many levels for us to discuss. I think I am better than those individuals who freely express their own opinions and listen to others' shares about distinguishing a reasonable direction for their lives to be able to escape the difficulties they encounter in gambling addiction.

And in fact, there are solutions shared a lot on the forum. I also speculate that the experience is very real, so please give an opinion that is close to reality. Just like how to treat a disease, we must know clearly what the problem is in order to come up with a treatment method, not simply a story about how many types of diseases they know.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Dickiy on December 15, 2023, 03:46:24 PM
I believe that gambling addiction is self explanatory or educational. Whoever is visiting the game house and betting but losing yet kept visiting the place and betting without stopping knows that he is addicted and knows he should stop. If you are unable to stop while you want to stop then you already know you are addicted. So I don't think we need a different board on it, moreover there are different threads started whose contributions are always going towards addictions and what remedy to take.

Except there could be threads pinned on this board for easy access to learn what addiction.

Maybe there are some people who feel that way, or I mean there are some gamblers who already know that they are addicted through some indications that they find and feel like what you said above which is "can't stop even though you want to stop", I think one of the problems is the emotional factor that cannot be controlled, maybe you also know that the most difficult thing in us is emotions when we are in a hot situation.

Some gamblers may be aware that they are addicted but if it is basically just a feeling about those who know that they are addicted I think it is still difficult to overcome, they will always say "one more time" just like that, that's what makes it difficult for gamblers to apply firmness to their limits and always violate them. Or it means that habits are very difficult to change if there is no coercion, and that's why there must be help from some other people even though it may be just a suggestion but it can also be said to have the opportunity to help, and also that's why there is a title about this in this forum, so you can't say that this forum will not be useful to help them get out of their addiction zone.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Westinhome on December 15, 2023, 06:01:50 PM
We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.

The gambler who get affected mentally should keep them engaged with their like things.Most of the gamblers will do check of the vacations after their loss in the gambling site.The loss or win both was common in the gambling site,if you made the good win once.You should ready to face the loss in the next games.Based on margin loss or profit in the gambling sites,the next loss or the win was based on the previous game.The mathematics probability also depends on the game loss after the win and win after the loss in the gambling site.The vacational trip will be the better option for the gamblers to overcome mental pressure from the gambling site.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: Lanatsa on December 15, 2023, 06:11:25 PM
We can just talk about it here in the Gambling Discussion and there's also the Off-Topic section so it's not really that important that we add another section, it's not like this is the go to website if you want to vent out something or seek some help in your mental health concerns. I don't think that there's a need for that kind of section. Just look at other unused boards out in the forum already, too saturated already of unused boards.

Regarding orientation for new gamblers, I don't think this is the right place for that one and I don't think we're going to even need one because people are already talking about learning about different gambling games here already, sometimes you just got to ask.

The gambler who get affected mentally should keep them engaged with their like things.Most of the gamblers will do check of the vacations after their loss in the gambling site.The loss or win both was common in the gambling site,if you made the good win once.You should ready to face the loss in the next games.Based on margin loss or profit in the gambling sites,the next loss or the win was based on the previous game.The mathematics probability also depends on the game loss after the win and win after the loss in the gambling site.The vacational trip will be the better option for the gamblers to overcome mental pressure from the gambling site.
Depends on what are the gambling games that you are dealing with, because if we do speak about those house games on which HE would really be that relevant and something inevitable on which means that playing on longer runs would eventually be making you as a loser no matter what.How much more if those RNG's would really be completely not favoring you? For sure you would really be seeing yourself on the loser side
but since this is gambling then loses are really just that part of the game and part of the thrill. As long you do make yourself that responsible on doing gambling then you wont really be putting up yourself on such great or big trouble.

If you do find yourself to be that stressful already on the things that you've been doing then it would really be just that right that you should really be that trying out to ease that kind of stress
and impulsive emotion because once you do lost up control or cool then this is where impulsive behavior would really be starting. Actually i dont really see about that mental section or
orientation to really be that be relevant because even just making realizations towards self should really be just that enough.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 15, 2023, 06:17:19 PM
At this point I think whoever conceived this idea should be fast with it. I just read a thread topic where someone committed suicide after betting approximately $3k on sports betting.


What is the comparison between a loss of $3k and a human life.

I mean, don't people think? Could it have been the first betting experience the person had and maybe his life savings was used for it. Irrespective of what the terms and conditions are it was extremely an action for a failed bet.


Title: Re: The need for mental section or public orientation for new gamblers.
Post by: rahmad2nd on December 15, 2023, 08:32:06 PM
I just said I should air this out, I don't know if this is possible or a better suggestion should be giving.

We start from the experiences we have while we are still involved in gambling sessions, in fact even though that person has a long history with various experiences. but There is no real guarantee that someone is not an addict, in fact we ourselves know exactly what we have done in a gambling session, including the damage we have done. In fact, a beginner can gain knowledge based on the experiences of other gamblers just from the discussions we have had. as you can see, there are many responses from the community regarding the post you submitted. well, my question is, are there many beginners who are interested.

In fact, most gamblers just want to play and have fun in the hope of getting a win and enjoying the fun side of gambling. But what most gamblers ignore is that every session must be prepared for the risks. and that's why, before we bet, whether we are beginners or very familiar gamblers. make it a habit to do some calculations first, whether the money we are risking will not interfere with other interests. for example, our basic needs. well, so the ideas you expressed in this thread are not what we are doing. Moreover, there are many threads discussing all kinds of gambling perspectives. you, I, we, can get experience from various gamblers without having to do the same thing. specifically in this case, it is for beginners as you mean. the point is, everyone has different intellectuals. Therefore, use it as a benchmark for us to study and choose. Likewise with the gambling that we do. There is no need to post another thread, after all, all the threads we discuss in gambling can become valuable knowledge and gain experience from the stories posted by other members. However, it all comes back to each of us.