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Title: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Barikui1 on December 21, 2023, 08:07:38 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Yamane_Keto on December 21, 2023, 09:14:34 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: JunaidAzizi on December 21, 2023, 09:46:04 AM
This is the foolish thing that every newbie is thinking, market sentiment is not constantly working they are changing very quickly, and the new thing is that they are increasing their funds in a short time through which they face loss,  and after that, they start rude behavior about cryptocurrency. I saw a person who was a newbie telling his own story about how he faced many losses. He said that when he came to the market he got a smaller fear and invested a small fund and he made a profit from it after that he increased his funds and the profit increased simultaneously. When he reached 400 dollars in profit he decided to stop trading for today and do the last time and lose all his profits in that trade to recover that he went more in loss.

From this, I catch that these newbies are too stupid and greedy and they think that the market is going through their side, and in that, they face many losses. So the suggestion for the newbie is to stay away from excess trade per day set a target per day and achieve that target quit the trading for that day and come back after two or three days, through this way I think they will keep their funds from greed and will gain more experience.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sim_card on December 21, 2023, 10:30:00 AM
Greed is what is making most newbies to jump into trading thinking that they can make huge profit from it, and they forget that trading is more professional and skillful compare to hodling. When you don't understand something, you don't need to use a big amount of money on it. Instead, you should only use the amount of money that you can afford to lose, so that you can have some experience in the market, if you want to learn trading. Sometimes, as a newbie, you might be lucky that you made profit in a trade that you don't understand, that doesn't means that trading is easy, you were only lucky, so there is no need for you to increase the money but continue with the little amount that you have started with. Trading is more complex compare to what you think.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Altryist on December 21, 2023, 10:51:51 AM
 Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: naira on December 21, 2023, 10:57:53 AM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
You could say you are an alert trader, but on the other hand you look timid. By not trading for 1 month just because you don't get references or something like that  and are afraid of uncertain losses, it means some potential profits are wasted. You should understand crypto trading better, high volatility certainly doesn't  mean the crypto you are trading won't sell. Imagine if you trade clothes and  food and then decide to stop in 1 month, will the next month sell  quickly? It depends, because you're missing out on any possible buyer interest. In the crypto world, all of that is not necessary because even by setting the price at entry 5, it is likely that based on market conditions this season it will only take 1 to 2 days to be successfully sold. So it's all about  taking risks, because no one knows in 1 month volatility and altseason means you have thrown away more than 10x profits.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Questat on December 21, 2023, 11:46:24 AM

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Newbies usually suffer losses because in their minds is all about money, earning fast.
In trading, we don't just know when to sell/buy but also, we need to know how to analyze the market. But newbies apparently don't have such a thing, well, I could understand their position as they are still learning and observing the market behavior. But for us who have been doing this, I don't think it was a reason, it is probably because we are using an ineffective strategy. Even trading for many years if we don't change our strategies, nothing happens other than losing our money.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Husires on December 21, 2023, 11:58:42 AM
Greed is what makes people believe that it is easy to become rich without investment or experience, because if that were possible, we would all become rich. It is true that the first investors who kept their currencies became rich, but they did not know to what extent the price would rise, as the price of Bitcoin in 2013 collapsed severely to the point that Everyone thought that Bitcoin was dead and that selling 1 Bitcoin for $200 was very profitable.
Without planning and knowing why you want to buy or sell, you will inevitably end up making losses from trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Mahanton on December 21, 2023, 02:00:25 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Those first common impressions and thoughts would really be just that normal when you are still a newbie but on the time that you are making up  some trades specially on your first time or you do able to see
someone who do make money with it, then you would really be that assuming that it would really be just that easy but on the time that you would really be experiencing it for yourself then this is where you would really be that having that kind of realization that its never been that easy and this is where you would really be starting yourself on making those trades on which you would really be mindful on what are the tools and what are
the steps that you would really be needing to take so that you would really be able to make yourself that get prepared.

When you do make those overtrading then it would be understandable that you would really be that prone to lost of mistakes and errors on which you would really be that making yourself in a rush
and this isnt something recommended because making yourself that desperate would really be just that leading into a disaster. It is really just that
people who do make out those rush decisions or dealings are the ones who would really be that putting up themselves on lots of trouble.
This isnt a race or a sprint but rather it would really be a marathon.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: yudi09 on December 21, 2023, 02:24:44 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
The wrong mind if looking at crypto is a quick scheme rich by doing trade. If it fails, blame the situation by calling it a fraud.
Trade carried out by experienced traders with various patterns has also been tried often experience loss.

When you understand that trade is like an art that is done, then maintain the pattern of the pokir and do it with the strategies that you have designed well and prioritize mature emotional.
Patience is an aspect that determines the success of trade carried out by methods and strategies. Apply and not just become a word.
Another aspect is not to complain and must be prepared to lose money.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on December 21, 2023, 02:38:04 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

Exactly the investors mind changed from the old investors. In past most Investors enter in the market with mind of strong holding and for long term while now investors mind is to buy for short term They want to become millionaire in one month, This is why mostly investors looking for top risky tokens and result in big loss.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).

Whenever any investment is not done properly then obviously it will work like gambling. Trading need proper knowledge and then success will kiss your feet


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: mindrust on December 21, 2023, 02:39:40 PM
If you listen to the professional traders (i don't mean youtuber freaks), they will tell you that they only make 5-10 trades in year. (sometimes even less) There are opportunities, there are good opportunities and there are "fuck i can't lose this one" kind of opportunities. The first 2 may become bad trades eventually but the last one, they are so good, you don't want want to lose them at any cost. If you spend your cash on average&good trades, you won't have enough money to take advantage of the best trades. Sometimes making no trades make you more money than trading. A good trader knows hat.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: rat03gopoh on December 21, 2023, 03:07:19 PM
Excessive trading I think is rare, even beginners know that ideal trading is using analysis and that will make one's trading more organized both in terms of capital and time.
Let's say someone without that kind of knowledge (relying only on luck), I think they would prefer gambling with big money rather than trading where the chance of luck is greater.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 21, 2023, 04:30:21 PM
A quality trading set-up is mostly obtained from a higher timeframe thus a few of those setup is usually unfold or turn up weekly, however it quality is second to none provided that the trading strategy is working and these setups usually comes with a high reward to risk ratio, unfortunately newbies who have no experience in trading usually engaged in scalping in a bid to make quick profit by trading as many setups as possible irrespective of whether it's a perfect one or not unfortunately ended up losing their account, meanwhile slow and steady wins a race thus trading is a long term profession as the trader continue to trade more experience is gained.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 21, 2023, 04:37:20 PM
I dont mind the notion of being like a monk. Stay calm till the correct buy/sell price. Seems like a generic advice for any newbie but strong one indeed.

Of course discipline is something I advice every newbie to practice along with dummy trading to grow their skills. With observation you can actually learn how to react to the market in the proper manner and not panic with every movement.

It takes time to develop these skills but its possible, dont give up and go slow without rushing it.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Nrcewker on December 21, 2023, 04:55:42 PM
Overtrade can be simply explained as greed or can directly compare with it. People overtrade when they think that they will make extra profits from it. But eventually when the time passes, they end up making losses. It’s mostly seen from newbies if I have to be frank. This is common, and you need to work on it in order to control. I would suggest to keep smaller profit targets whenever trading. Once the target is achieved just cashout from the market. This is the best strategy, and you will not end up in losses.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: el kaka22 on December 21, 2023, 05:04:12 PM
I am not sure if this is true, it depends on the person. I mean it snot even all about newbie versus veteran neither, which I am sure plays a big role without a doubt, but it is also about the person. Some people trade for a long time and end up losing quite quickly and that's an issue ,but that doesn't mean that we are going to see that person be veteran or newbie, it just means that those people are just patient-less and can't wait for too long.

Some people trade for hours every day and do this for years without getting bored, and some people trade for a few hours just one day and on 5th hour or so they are bored and make a mistake. That should be the most important thing we should be having in the long run as well, it would be something decent for sure.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: criptoevangelista on December 21, 2023, 05:10:48 PM
When the market is bull market, a lot of brilliant people appear.

The truth is that when the market is high any crap you buy makes you money.

What separates the good from the bad is how to manage it all when the market is in a bear market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 21, 2023, 06:46:06 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
You are talking facts and to be honest, I am one of those newbies who had this mindset that the more I will trade the more I would be able to make a profit, and I even traded in futures and I spent my whole day of 12 hours in doing trading and I was not good enough, the big problem was I never tried to learn it from experts or took any courses Instead I thought I can learn it only by doing it.

And when I started to make some money on the 3rd or 2nd day, I became more greedy, and even after making a good profit, I thought I should take an extra trade so I could make more profit. I did not know when to stop, it's just the day was bullish and whatever trade I was taking in futures I was making money. But when I made my last trade of the day I lost everything and then I regret on my this single trade because I was dumb enough to try to save it from liquidation and spend all of my capital to increase the liquidation price and end up with nothing.

I learned this lesson the hard way, but to all newbies reading this post, please take this post of OP for sure.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Hamphser on December 21, 2023, 06:59:17 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
You are talking facts and to be honest, I am one of those newbies who had this mindset that the more I will trade the more I would be able to make a profit, and I even traded in futures and I spent my whole day of 12 hours in doing trading and I was not good enough, the big problem was I never tried to learn it from experts or took any courses Instead I thought I can learn it only by doing it.

And when I started to make some money on the 3rd or 2nd day, I became more greedy, and even after making a good profit, I thought I should take an extra trade so I could make more profit. I did not know when to stop, it's just the day was bullish and whatever trade I was taking in futures I was making money. But when I made my last trade of the day I lost everything and then I regret on my this single trade because I was dumb enough to try to save it from liquidation and spend all of my capital to increase the liquidation price and end up with nothing.

I learned this lesson the hard way, but to all newbies reading this post, please take this post of OP for sure.
On the time that you are already that doing it that much on which on the sense that you are already spending up too much time and too much money but still having that fixated kind of strategy and you are simply hurrying up yourself on making money then this is something that you should be stopping it as soon as possible. You are really that indeed making yourself that putting up on such harm because trading isnt something that you could really be able to treat up that way or else you would really be ending up on a disaster.

Dont overtrade and there should really be that kind of limitation on everyday dealing on which you should set up a particular profit taking or point and if you do able to complete it out
then this is where you would be deciding that you should really be just that calling it a day and completely stop and dont ask for more. When desperation do really kicks in then it
would really be that so damn hard to stop mid-way.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Eternad on December 21, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Actually the more you trade, the more money you can make is true because you will have multiple opportunities to gain profit instead of single trading because crypto price is volatile. I use the word can because you can only guarantee profit if your trade is accurate like using trading bot for grid trading or something to make your trade consistent 24/7 base on the price range.

The only problem why many fail of trading with multiple trading is they can’t timing their trade to the price fluctuations because they are using their emotion to decide on their trade instead of price action.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Russlenat on December 21, 2023, 07:28:02 PM
That's how the crypto influencers online affect the newbies in trading believing that trading will make them instantly rich, even without sufficient knowledge and skills. When in reality, trading will make them poorer if they enter the market trading with high greed and without patience to wait for the market to become favorable to trade. They put their future in trading, that's why once they decide to trade, they make sure to trade at a huge amount, and end up seeing them losing. When it happens, they blame the market all of a sudden, and believe that crypto trading is a big scam.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Issa56 on December 21, 2023, 07:34:54 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.
Firstly, I will like to know if you are a professional trader. Your account is still new to the forum, if you don't have proper knowledge about trading, then you shouldn't give advice. You are right, trading is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and most people always have the wrong perspective before they start trading. Most of them think that if you start trading immediately,  you will start making money instantly, which is wrong. Most newbies are deceived by the videos they see on YouTube and the advertisements they do see from signal providers. They are always brainwashed that trading is easy and they will be pushed to start trading, but if they start losing and they are not getting rich, most of them will end up giving up trading and they will start spreading fake lies that bitcoin and cryptocurrency are scams.

When you want to trade, don't depend on trading signals, don't be deceived by the videos you see on YouTube, always take your time to read and learn about trading, and when trading, learning should be what you will be doing continuously, you should always improve your skills. There is no easy way to make money.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
I don't understand what you mean by they don't wait for the market to come to them, I don't think the market visits anyone. Maybe you can just explain to me better. All I will say is to always make sure you do your analysis first before entering a trade. You might be wrong sometimes, but I am sure your win will be more than your loss. Don't just jump into a trade without analysis, most traders now depend on trading signals, which is very wrong. You shouldn't wait for anyone to give you the go-ahead when you are about to trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: palle11 on December 21, 2023, 07:49:24 PM

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).


Patience is a good virtue for trading. If you wait for trade to come to you, it is clearer to go for the profit and you can take higher risk and tighten your stop loss as all time frame will be in agreement for a right order execution.



Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

I think that has made some day traders to prefer to trade as swingers because swing trade gives you a long time and space to monitor the progress, situation and emotions/sentiment before you dive in. A longtime analysis space is one advantage of swing trading but however no strategy is far better than the other because they don't have guarantee, if you do a wrong analysis on any of the trading strategy then you can lose the trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: aylabadia05 on December 21, 2023, 07:49:37 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.
Regarding the correct way to trade and good trading methods, there are many available everywhere if trading beginners want to learn so as not to misunderstand trading.
It's just that people who have the perspective that trading is a way to get rich quickly are not willing to find out what trading is and how to do it.

I assume this is just a story. It's not that there are people who make mistakes in evaluating trading by thinking that trading is a get-rich-quick scheme and make mistakes in trading due to greed and impatience, but things that need to be avoided in trading are generally known.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on December 21, 2023, 07:50:46 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading,
I couldn't agree more on this, social media is so powerful that in seeds in an idea to people, it's called 'influence' from 'influencers' on the internet.  

and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich,
It's achieavable actually, make successful trades but the problem is with the consistency. Becoming rich with trading is so much of an impossibility, I don't think it will make you rich, although you can win a trade of millions of dollars but come on that's not how richest are made.

which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Long term trading, either it will make you big gains or become millionaire because you foresight the future  ??? it's impossible to not lose a trade over years of trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 21, 2023, 07:52:05 PM
Yes, it is absolutely true. This is what often happens. New traders come and are very excited to make big profits from trading and dream of getting rich. When they start trading, they win some quick trades and think they have succeeded, but they soon discover that this is an illusion.

When they start receiving losses and painful blows, they begin to regret it and realize that real trading is completely different from theoretical trading on YouTube channels or paper. Then they start to understand the truth and that real trading is completely different.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Ojima-ojo on December 21, 2023, 08:06:40 PM
Though I honestly do not understand what op meant by the market coming to the trader, but I still would agree with all that he has said, judging from my own past and personal experiences.
It is actually very easy to give in to the temptation of over trading, most especially when the trader meet his target too early in the day and have nothing else to do for the rest of the day, to avoid being bored, one may decide to trade again since there is still much time left before the day comes to an end.

This is actually where over trading starts, when the trader enters the market and possibly end up loosing, he or she then tries to atleast make back the profit they have made before, and before he or she knows it, he or she is spending more hours than necessary chasing after profit, meanwhile, stress and anxiety may not allow him or her focus or give a good attention to the movement of the market so as to increase his or her chances of wining a trade.

Anyways, this is just long talk by the way, as I believe that every serious trader out there must have experienced this maybe a time or a couple of times.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: South Park on December 21, 2023, 08:10:52 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
This comes from their inability to understand the markets, after all if they know their trading strategy wins 60% of the time and on average they could expect to make 1% in profits with each trade, then they reason that if they increase the number of trades they make then they will make more money, but what they are forgetting is that by doing that they will not be following their trading strategy anymore, and this often means that most of those additional trades will end with a loss, and instead of making more money most likely they will lose it.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Finestream on December 21, 2023, 08:34:57 PM
Overtrading becomes an important concern for newbies these days. They never see trading as a job that requires adequate knowledge and skills, but more on a hype that once they overdone it, it will make them eran more a lot. Well, that's not the case in trading. The more you overtrade without trading experiences in the market, the bigger chances you end up losing your capital. The reason why risk management is crucial when trading.

YouTubers may create a big impact on new traders. They see trading as a get rich quick, that's why they never wait anymore for the market to come to them, but they find ways to trade even at a very undesirable market to trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: terrific on December 21, 2023, 08:51:22 PM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
You know yourself better and that's why it is better to trade when you feel like you have to. But if you think that the market isn't coming to you.
That's a good thought that you shouldn't trade at all even if it's going to be long time before it comes to you. Anyway, how it is going to come to us then because we should be the one to come and trade. Still, I agree with you about being patient.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Japinat on December 21, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
Professional traders never resort into overtrading because that will only put their trades on a higher risk of losing. But newbies are still learning on trading, so their concepts are not as good and precise like skillful traders are. Instead of trading at their own risk, they chose to trade more often thinking that it's the best possible way to earn bigger amount of profits. The moment they lose, that's when they realized that overtrading does not work for them, and even to all traders out there.

For me, it's a good thing that they learn at the start. So if they tend to overtrade, that's okay. They will learn eventually their lesson and will not repeat the same mistake again.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: goaldigger on December 21, 2023, 09:08:08 PM
Over trade is not advisable, the fees and the stress can make you lose more.
In trading, everything should be balanced and based according to your analysis. Day trading can be very frustrating so make sure to know how to handle your emotion and make sure to know what is your strategy in trading. I don’t trade that much and I only place my position every time I see opportunity, the market is working 24/7 so make sure you don’t forget to analyze.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 21, 2023, 09:24:43 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day..
Well Yeah, we can't deny that this happens to most crypto trading beginners. Because basically they usually don't really understand crypto trading but just do it in the hope of getting high income from trading. We do need to have these hopes, but we also have to be self-aware of our portions and abilities. So at least when you become a newbie, traders should be able to prepare themselves better and be ready, in terms of knowledge and insight, analysis, and also how we control ourselves. If we over trade beyond the limits of our trading ability, be prepared to fall into a trap and lose more quickly.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Natalim on December 21, 2023, 09:29:03 PM
Over trade is not advisable, the fees and the stress can make you lose more.
In trading, everything should be balanced and based according to your analysis. Day trading can be very frustrating so make sure to know how to handle your emotion and make sure to know what is your strategy in trading. I don’t trade that much and I only place my position every time I see opportunity, the market is working 24/7 so make sure you don’t forget to analyze.
Trading is quite stressful in real life which most people never know but that is how it works. And it means that those individuals who can carry the stress will survive while the others will move away and quit. That is why we should have to be in mentally and physically good condition before trading as this has a huge impact on our trade. That is why we should trade that have peace of mind and in a very convenient place so we can focus on the thing we do. People overtrade because they are very stressed and the chase of getting more despite the market situation isn't really good. 


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 21, 2023, 10:10:48 PM
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
We call this greed, an a big mistake anyone will try to take, continuous trading is the easiest way yo lose money in trading. Trading is not designed for people to trade and make all the profits they desire to get.

 In trading the moment you make the little profit just stop and when their is lose it is better to just stop and not still forcing yourself to make profits by all means. One of the rules in making successful trading is to stay away from greed . Greed is a big factor that every trader needs not to allow to be a habit in trading . Traders needs to be satisfied with their little profit in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: borovichok on December 21, 2023, 10:52:07 PM
Over trade is not advisable, the fees and the stress can make you lose more.
In trading, everything should be balanced and based according to your analysis. Day trading can be very frustrating so make sure to know how to handle your emotion and make sure to know what is your strategy in trading. I don’t trade that much and I only place my position every time I see opportunity, the market is working 24/7 so make sure you don’t forget to analyze.
Trading is consider difficult for some and consider simple for some, it all depends on the individual's mind and the kind of mentorship program one scout out. We just have to do what we think is right because things do actually fall out of lane so fast, possibly than anything we could imagine. Trading is one of the good features to anticipated if you're actually a pro trader or a newbie who's willingly to learn every single steps to ensure things goes smoothly on both the newbie way and the mentor. Over trading only happen when a trader is keen on revenge and he's purely intended to recover his lost funds which he forgets in a hurry about the volatility of the market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TelolettOm on December 21, 2023, 10:53:24 PM
Excessive trading I think is rare, even beginners know that ideal trading is using analysis and that will make one's trading more organized both in terms of capital and time.
Not sure whether it is rare or not, but I am not familiar with the term of 'excessive trading'. What I know is excessive gambling, it is a familiar thing in gambling. Can anyone describe what the excessive trading is? Is it when we use too big funds or when trade too often?  :-\

I doubt if a beginner will do excessive trading because they must realize that it won't be safe for them to trader too often with lack of knowledge. Ideally, we become more often trading when we already have enough knowledge and understand how to take profits in an effective way. So, we can enjoy trading due to earning good profits.

Let's say someone without that kind of knowledge (relying only on luck), I think they would prefer gambling with big money rather than trading where the chance of luck is greater.
It depends on the individual. If he is familiar with gambling, he may prefer to use bigger money in gambling. But if he isn't familiar with gambling, he must prefer to use it for trading because it offers good profits, too. Anyway, how can the chance of luck to be greater? If it is true, all the gamblers must be rich and the casinos are closed due to bankruptcy.



Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: GiftedMAN on December 21, 2023, 11:10:41 PM
Over trade is not advisable, the fees and the stress can make you lose more.
In trading, everything should be balanced and based according to your analysis. Day trading can be very frustrating so make sure to know how to handle your emotion and make sure to know what is your strategy in trading. I don’t trade that much and I only place my position every time I see opportunity, the market is working 24/7 so make sure you don’t forget to analyze.
Trading is consider difficult for some and consider simple for some, it all depends on the individual's mind and the kind of mentorship program one scout out. We just have to do what we think is right because things do actually fall out of lane so fast, possibly than anything we could imagine. Trading is one of the good features to anticipated if you're actually a pro trader or a newbie who's willingly to learn every single steps to ensure things goes smoothly on both the newbie way and the mentor. Over trading only happen when a trader is keen on revenge and he's purely intended to recover his lost funds which he forgets in a hurry about the volatility of the market.
We will surely keep loses when we over trade because at that time, our brain is saturated and we might not make good profits from the market. Trading is good and we can make profits from it but when we do it in a way that looks too frequent, we might become too desperate and become smart enough to bet on where we are going to be making positive results. For us to make money from gambling, it is good for us to try as much as possible to do things in a way that would benefits and staying safe at the same time without getting ourselves into problems.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: BRINIRHA on December 22, 2023, 03:24:04 AM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
I also prefer to do the same as you. Because for me trading is just a sideline. So I don't always have to log in every time. I prefer to watch and wait for Narrative to be made and then get in as early as possible and sell it when the hype is really going on and is almost at its peak. I don't even like waiting until the hype reaches its peak. Because I would rather take profits early than take profits late when the market changes direction quickly.

It's just that most beginners seem addicted to trading. It's as if they're having trouble stopping. In fact, they continue to monitor the market from time to time which even disrupts their daily activities. Unless they are a day trader. So it is understandable that their job is to always monitor market movements and not want to miss even a small moment. But for ordinary traders there are times when we have to leave the market if the market is not in our favor.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 22, 2023, 04:23:40 AM
There are many members in the forum who think that by investing or trading they can get rich quickly and with such thoughts they decide to invest money without thinking about the market. He may not be aware of how risky it will be for him to invest without knowing about the investment. Or a new member invests without having any idea about the market but sees some volatility in the market and if he sees some money profit then he becomes restless to invest again. But those who are real investors are never in such a hurry to invest but they have enough understanding about the market and then trade or invest. I should never think that investing will make us rich quick but we should think that we can get something good from crypto platform.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Awaklara on December 22, 2023, 06:03:50 AM
There are many members in the forum who think that by investing or trading they can get rich quickly and with such thoughts they decide to invest money without thinking about the market. He may not be aware of how risky it will be for him to invest without knowing about the investment. Or a new member invests without having any idea about the market but sees some volatility in the market and if he sees some money profit then he becomes restless to invest again. But those who are real investors are never in such a hurry to invest but they have enough understanding about the market and then trade or invest. I should never think that investing will make us rich quick but we should think that we can get something good from crypto platform.
those who think crypto is a way to get rich quickly are beginners who are consumed by FOMO. They are sedated by the streamer's motivation regarding trading or investing which makes beginners very obsessed and think that trading or investing is something that is easy and will quickly make them rich.
Just leave people like that, until finally, they will know for themselves how to invest or trade crypto well. of course by realizing that their perspective has been wrong. it will probably cost them some money upfront.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: kojektea on December 22, 2023, 06:32:37 AM
very true. especially when trading futures. I really experienced this. taught me the importance of emotional management apart from asset and risk management. in terms of control, when we have made a profit of several tens of percent, it should be part of our daily routine or a few hours of rest to calm our psyche. I did this and it proved to be quite helpful. In essence, greedy people here will lose, it is real. This even happens to many people from me, my friends, the community I follow, it even seems that controlling emotions is more difficult than managing assets and risks.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Boy_chef on December 22, 2023, 06:48:47 AM
This is the fact where risk management comes to play in trading. It's really a game of win or loose.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: God bless u on December 22, 2023, 08:59:40 AM
It is a fact that if we cannot get good results from any business or job then we start blaming the business or job but what mistakes we are making are negligible for us. If we accept our faults and then learn according to it then we will say that at start we have done large number of mistakes but now we are a good traders as we learn from our mistakes.

If your loss percentage is more then try to overcome trading because here is the chance of more failure through more trading. If you are calm and waiting to enter the market at right time and at the same time you are learning the basics about trading will be better than as a part of trading and trade on daily basis to loss money everyday.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Kelward on December 22, 2023, 10:23:00 AM

From this, I catch that these newbies are too stupid and greedy and they think that the market is going through their side, and in that, they face many losses. So the suggestion for the newbie is to stay away from excess trade per day set a target per day and achieve that target quit the trading for that day and come back after two or three days, through this way I think they will keep their funds from greed and will gain more experience.

Patience in cryptocurrency is a virtue that every trader should imbibe, especially newbies that have not mastered the knowledge of the analysis needed to avoid loses. I agree that greed is one big factor that makes many newbies to have loses in trade, because when they have profitable trades they tend to increase their trade, believing that they'll gain more, in the end they might end up losing everything. As you said it's advisable especially for newbies to set trading targets for a day and not overtrade, so they can minimize loses. It's good to take a break and come back another day more energized and keep increasing in trading knowledge.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: MFahad on December 22, 2023, 10:34:28 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit


In some cases it may happen that newbies get good profit in a trade, but it may be the luck of a few that other people also consider trading as a means of getting quick profit. Experienced traders never make this mistake and never consider trading as a shortcut. Trading is also a skill and until this skill is mastered, the damage can only be done. People who have losses always talk negative things, so people should not pay attention to such things, Rather, attention should be paid to trade.

Newbies can also earn a good profit from a trade, but the condition is that it is taken after proper analysis and proper selection. You can also make big loss with big money.​  The most important thing is that the market is not always suitable for trading, but should be traded only when there is a suitable opportunity. Trade is neither gambling nor scam, but our own methods make it gambling or scam.Lack of experience and greed for profit always leads to loss.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Kelvinid on December 22, 2023, 12:35:40 PM
very true. especially when trading futures. I really experienced this. taught me the importance of emotional management apart from asset and risk management. in terms of control, when we have made a profit of several tens of percent, it should be part of our daily routine or a few hours of rest to calm our psyche. I did this and it proved to be quite helpful. In essence, greedy people here will lose, it is real. This even happens to many people from me, my friends, the community I follow, it even seems that controlling emotions is more difficult than managing assets and risks.
That will certainly happen to someone who was taught that trading is easy and honestly, most of us are a victim of such an assumption until the time we realize that it was wrong. That is why we should treasure all the experiences we have in the past and all the mistakes we commit because in this way we learn and even enhance our knowledge and skills as we know this will help us to succeed. Nothing is impossible as long as if we are willing to change and accept mistakes but if we keep insisting that we are right, we only end up failing.
 - knowns how to control our emotion
 - knows our limitations
 - improve market understanding


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 22, 2023, 01:31:05 PM

From this, I catch that these newbies are too stupid and greedy and they think that the market is going through their side, and in that, they face many losses. So the suggestion for the newbie is to stay away from excess trade per day set a target per day and achieve that target quit the trading for that day and come back after two or three days, through this way I think they will keep their funds from greed and will gain more experience.

Patience in cryptocurrency is a virtue that every trader should imbibe, especially newbies that have not mastered the knowledge of the analysis needed to avoid loses. I agree that greed is one big factor that makes many newbies to have loses in trade, because when they have profitable trades they tend to increase their trade, believing that they'll gain more, in the end they might end up losing everything. As you said it's advisable especially for newbies to set trading targets for a day and not overtrade, so they can minimize loses. It's good to take a break and come back another day more energized and keep increasing in trading knowledge.

Yes that's right, one of the things that makes traders experience more losses than profits is because they have the wrong approach in their involvement, of course patience is one of the things that every trader must have because with it you can minimize some actions that should not be done, one of which may act out of control because of emotions due to losses. But this is trading where if there is a profit opportunity then there will always be potential losses, the two things cannot be separated. And agree that most who experience losses quite often are beginners who have just come, as I said above that they come with the wrong approach, because usually they only focus on profit opportunities compared to risks while on the other hand they do not have the experience and skills that are qualified so that instead of getting profits but the opposite happens, namely suffering the number of losses.

That is why it is not uncommon for some novice traders who have just gotten involved but have already withdrawn or failed due to not being able to withstand all the losses they have experienced. Not understanding the concept of trading is also bad, we are human beings with feelings and if you do not understand trading along with what should be prepared for prevention then obviously out of control behavior is very likely to occur, which is why we must have risk management, take profit and stop los, it is very important to keep you from experiencing significant losses and avoid greed.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 22, 2023, 02:23:56 PM
On the time that you are already that doing it that much on which on the sense that you are already spending up too much time and too much money but still having that fixated kind of strategy and you are simply hurrying up yourself on making money then this is something that you should be stopping it as soon as possible. You are really that indeed making yourself that putting up on such harm because trading isnt something that you could really be able to treat up that way or else you would really be ending up on a disaster.
It is hard to understand your words but I almost get your point, I think you are not used to the English language. Well, frankly, I am also not very good at English. Well, talking about your statements, I want to say, that I am not doing it now, as I was telling my story of the past, and mentioned it to give those who are newbies here and are making trades over and over again in the essence to make more profit, some sense of why OP is saying is really true.
then this is where you would be deciding that you should really be just that calling it a day and completely stop and dont ask for more. When desperation do really kicks in then it
would really be that so damn hard to stop mid-way.
You are right, besides desperation, we become greedy and we don't know where to stop, because if we are doing some work in office or anywhere else, we do know we can make this much money and that's the most we can make and it is not possible to make more than this, but in trading judging when to stop and where is our limits is a little bit difficult.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: jossiel on December 22, 2023, 02:28:42 PM
Call it a day when you have made more than your minimum or exactly minimum. You don't have to go that much with your trades and try hard.

Forcing it might even lose you just as what you're saying on the title. Don't over trade and avoid being greedy. That's what will help you to survive on the market.

Sometimes it's friendly but most times, it's not. That's why protect yourself from the market and as well as your profits too.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Pandu Geddon on December 22, 2023, 02:31:07 PM
Patience in cryptocurrency is a virtue that every trader should imbibe, especially newbies that have not mastered the knowledge of the analysis needed to avoid loses.

I don't think it applies to all cryptocurrencies. You can see memecoins or crypto tokens that are useless after being created and never listed on an exchange. it all requires research, not just patience.

However, beginners are not advised to start trading or investing without some knowledge. some might say if they don't start how beginners will gain knowledge and experience. It's simple, there have been many cases that have occurred and been shared by many traders. Of course, it's not just their success story but how they started with patience in learning. no one is suddenly successful, they go through a process that we don't imagine.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: redsun114 on December 22, 2023, 02:39:33 PM
I don't know what you mean by the market going to a trader or the trader going to the market, but all I know is that a lot of newbie investors lose money because they FOMO if that's what you mean. They see a coin or a token that has gone up significantly just recently, and they think it will go up more so they take a position in it, and as always, the coin/token starts dropping right from there since it has already reached the peak and it's never a good point for buying.

So, what newbie traders and investors need to learn and understand is that you can't enter this late and still expect to make great profits, and if you are doing it for a small share of profits, you shouldn't do it because it has more risk than reward which is never a good thing to do as a trader in this financial market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Viscore on December 22, 2023, 03:08:43 PM
For experienced traders, we all know that overtrading may not lead into positive outcome. However, for newbies in trading, it's normal to see them wanting to trade consistently in order to make frequent profits. Greed makes them resort into overtrading. And for me, it's useless to stop them from trading when their urge to trade is higher, but until they start to lose more frequently, that's the time they will try to control their urge to avoid future losses.

Newbies will come to understand that not all the time the market allows them to make profitable trades. Yes, they can trade as much as they can but they can never expect that the market will be kinder to them and make their trades successful. At some point, they need to experience losses so they can understand the lesson in trading.



Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: jeraldskie11 on December 22, 2023, 03:44:38 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
We can't prevent overtrading unless we have a plan. A trading plan is vital to success. When we say trading plan, we mean an effective strategy that has previously been backtested and proved to work, as well as risk management.
Many traders claim to have a trading plan but fail to implement it because they are influenced by their emotions. This will not entice you if you are a disciplined trader.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: synchronym on December 22, 2023, 04:31:15 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
op I agree with you. Because there are still many traders who think that they will become overnight millionaires by trading in a few days, it is completely wrong. When we trade we must plan to move slowly through the trade. But we should never trade with the attitude that we will become a millionaire by trading in a month. Patience is very important in trading. We all have to have a long-term plan while trading


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Oneandpure on December 22, 2023, 04:45:08 PM
There are many members in the forum who think that by investing or trading they can get rich quickly and with such thoughts they decide to invest money without thinking about the market. He may not be aware of how risky it will be for him to invest without knowing about the investment. Or a new member invests without having any idea about the market but sees some volatility in the market and if he sees some money profit then he becomes restless to invest again. But those who are real investors are never in such a hurry to invest but they have enough understanding about the market and then trade or invest. I should never think that investing will make us rich quick but we should think that we can get something good from crypto platform.
Fatal mistake mindset with the beginner or some trader in this forum with investing in bitcoin as the way how to get rich quickly, many of the trader have bad mindset less patience waiting the market going dump and try quickly entry with market condition on the higher price. Another bad mindset with beginner they want earn much profitable with their investing, out expected because they want earn more than x10 profitable with their investing and looks bit difficult exactly investing with top standings altcoin on coinmarketcap position.
Have to change mindset when investing in bitcoin is not faster way to get rich and keep patience waiting market come to us with lower price than have come to market and investing when price still up.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: abel1337 on December 22, 2023, 05:45:14 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
op I agree with you. Because there are still many traders who think that they will become overnight millionaires by trading in a few days, it is completely wrong. When we trade we must plan to move slowly through the trade. But we should never trade with the attitude that we will become a millionaire by trading in a month. Patience is very important in trading. We all have to have a long-term plan while trading
Full of confidence without the right experience. It's not just it happens on crypto but on different market as well, you can also compare it to first timers who has a really great expectation about their first business. There are so many motivators in the internet but those people really survive in their niche facing a lot of losses along their way on being profitable.

Those who are aiming for quick rich schemes are the one who are probably losing their money. Confidence is important but it is much more effective if the confidence is paired with knowledge and experience.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: sulendra12 on December 22, 2023, 07:31:00 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.
That's what most people think when they hear about cryptocurrency. But in the end they are really disappointed with the result because they think it's to easy to earn money with trading cryptocurrency, but they don't know about behind the scene about how to actually manage all of that. That's just most of the newbies fault.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
Chasing more wins or greed is just something that you should never do in any aspect of your life not just in trading. I don't know why people think trading is a gambling, they probably actually losing more because of the lack of analyze of their losses and lack of research. Sometimes you will find yourself is just not the best day of trading, you can't just treat it the same.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Hamphser on December 22, 2023, 07:46:34 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
op I agree with you. Because there are still many traders who think that they will become overnight millionaires by trading in a few days, it is completely wrong. When we trade we must plan to move slowly through the trade. But we should never trade with the attitude that we will become a millionaire by trading in a month. Patience is very important in trading. We all have to have a long-term plan while trading
Full of confidence without the right experience. It's not just it happens on crypto but on different market as well, you can also compare it to first timers who has a really great expectation about their first business. There are so many motivators in the internet but those people really survive in their niche facing a lot of losses along their way on being profitable.

Those who are aiming for quick rich schemes are the one who are probably losing their money. Confidence is important but it is much more effective if the confidence is paired with knowledge and experience.
Over confidence would really lead into disaster and it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other things or aspects or situations in life on  which its never been that a good behavior if you would really be that too confident into things on which it would really be leading up into a disaster if you do really that make yourself that too confident and having those thoughts that you do know everything
but on the  time that you do able to encounter things which you havent been able to encounter before then you would really be having that kind of a anticipation on things and this is why its better to changed it up while its still early and make out those kind of trading method and ways or path on which it would really be that something that will really be that much better on having
that kind of approach rather than on making yourself that delusional.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Franctoshi on December 22, 2023, 08:09:01 PM
Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Distinctin on December 22, 2023, 08:40:52 PM
Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: mirakal on December 22, 2023, 09:25:36 PM
Trading is not a get rich quick just like beginners have perceived it. The reason why beginners think that it's okay to overtrade as it also increase their chances to be in profits. But trading does not work like that. The more you trade without knowledge but only followed your greed, the more likely you will end up into losing your money.

Trading requires skills and strategies to make it work and successful. But if people tend to trade even without those, then expect that they won't be trading to be in profits but for huge losses. Most especially if they resort into overtrading, that will easily lose their finances in less time.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: justdimin on December 23, 2023, 05:53:23 AM
one of the things that makes traders experience more losses than profits is because they have the wrong approach in their involvement, of course patience is one of the things that every trader must have because with it you can minimize some actions that should not be done, one of which may act out of control because of emotions due to losses. But this is trading where if there is a profit opportunity then there will always be potential losses, the two things cannot be separated. And agree that most who experience losses quite often are beginners who have just come, as I said above that they come with the wrong approach, because usually they only focus on profit opportunities compared to risks while on the other hand they do not have the experience and skills that are qualified so that instead of getting profits but the opposite happens, namely suffering the number of losses.

That is why it is not uncommon for some novice traders who have just gotten involved but have already withdrawn or failed due to not being able to withstand all the losses they have experienced. Not understanding the concept of trading is also bad, we are human beings with feelings and if you do not understand trading along with what should be prepared for prevention then obviously out of control behavior is very likely to occur, which is why we must have risk management, take profit and stop los, it is very important to keep you from experiencing significant losses and avoid greed.
I understand that it is going to be tough to do this, because waiting for the right time could be a while and some people can't wait that long and make mistakes, but also we need to understand them as well. I mean if we focus on just the people who end up not making a mistake it is going to be a tough deal, it is not going to be easy at all.

I hope that people could end up with something much easier and better, we just need to make sure that it is going to end up with something that should be getting to a point where it may end up doing greater with waiting period. I think it's both understandable and also not that bad to have no patience towards trading, it is wrong, but it is an understandable wrong that many people are making daily.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: OrangeII on December 23, 2023, 06:56:11 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Well, I think many people have high enthusiasm. To be honest, I was also very excited when I found out about crypto, and hoped I could make a lot of money from there.
However, situations like this happen very often, where people who are new to this business are very excited and hope to easily make money from trading. Well, whatever it is, they will try to start it. they will learn once they have started either they will stay and continue learning, or get out of trading instantly. Just enough, sometimes people get too excited and use all the money they have or more than they can afford to lose to start something new without knowing the risks. So, it would be wise to do research, and use minimal funds to get started.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Justbillywitt on December 23, 2023, 08:54:13 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
The mistake that most newbies makes about trading is that they always forget to start from the basic which is spot trading before venturing into futures trading. Myself I traded spot for more than six months before I started futures trading. As a trader you have have to set a target for yourself within the week and it has to be a target that is realistic, and once this target has been achieved you stop trading for the week.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: irhact on December 23, 2023, 09:33:32 AM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

That's your strategy, everyone can't be like you and that's how trading is, what works for you might not work for any individual. Some individual can trade daily and although they might not make profits everyday but at the end of the week or when they do their monthly wrap-up they'll be making profits. It doesn't also matter how long you take to trade or if you trade constantly, if you don't know how to make profits you still won't be successful at trading.

Trading everyday doesn't make you to be over trading, if you're making profits and you're not getting addicted then you can continue trading but when you're losing and still trading then you're doing something wrong and you need to stop trading or you'll lose all your money. Chasing after your loses is wrong and can be considered over trading as you'll exceeding your trading limit chasing losses.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: MFahad on December 23, 2023, 10:19:40 AM

The mistake that most newbies makes about trading is that they always forget to start from the basic which is spot trading before venturing into futures trading. Myself I traded spot for more than six months before I started futures trading. As a trader you have have to set a target for yourself within the week and it has to be a target that is realistic, and once this target has been achieved you stop trading for the week.

Future trade is very risky when you don't know about trading, then you should not do future trade at all, but spot trading is also not so easy, it also requires good experience. It is not that a newbies starts spot trading and earns profits. You have gained experience in spot trading before and that is good, but good experience is gained by trading with very small amount in the beginning. This is because you can avoid more losses due to any mistake. Newbies often make more mistakes and learn from those mistakes.

 I also used to make mistakes in almost most of the trades in the beginning, but because of the small amount I did not suffer much loss. Even if you have six months of experience in spot trading, still try to stay away from futures trading as futures trading can hurt you more. In trading every person wants to get maximum profit so no target can be set as much profit as possible every person is trading according to this calculation. However, your advice is also correct.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: AicecreaME on December 23, 2023, 10:29:54 AM
I agree.

They never stop, even though they made more than enough already, that's why they ended up having nothing because of their lose streaks. It's not bad to be greedy, but sometimes it goes up in our heads, being too confident that the market will always go to our way that's why they suffered a lot of losses instead of one or few big wins in a day. They always want big leverage to flex it on social media, which make their trade vulnerable to liquidation.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Baki202 on December 23, 2023, 10:39:27 AM
Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.


As a trader, you should have days when you don't trade. These days can be used for enjoyment or to gain new ideas on how to be a better trader. When a trader trades consistently, it impacts and may cause confusion, as you stated. It will be even more satisfying if everything is done one step at a time. And becoming addicted to trading will not end well since the trader will want to make profits at all costs, greed will set in, and the trader's thinking will begin to change course. Trading with calmness will be a good combo for a successful trading.

Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.
Most people who tell you about trading and investing in bitcoin will only tell you about the good things you can get from it. While there are benefits, there are also plenty of challenges that you will face as a trader, such as losing money, which is unavoidable in bitcoin. And having information in anything you accomplish in life is always beneficial, as your mood functioning will be different from that of someone who does not have knowledge.  Get the knowledge first then benefits follow next. The trader just have to make decisions that will help him become a successful trader.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: carlisle1 on December 23, 2023, 10:46:21 AM
I agree.

They never stop, even though they made more than enough already, that's why they ended up having nothing because of their lose streaks. It's not bad to be greedy, but sometimes it goes up in our heads, being too confident that the market will always go to our way that's why they suffered a lot of losses instead of one or few big wins in a day. They always want big leverage to flex it on social media, which make their trade vulnerable to liquidation.

Yes, there are traders who overdo their positions. Instead of making some decent but failed to stop and ended up losing them money,
positioning is very important and like what you said, being greed is not bad.

But if you don't do things the right way, you will see yourself regretting. Most of those who lose because of trying to add more with their earnings
realize this kind of mistake.

And those who manage to adopt and use the experienced to control their emotions and limit their trade earn decently.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Inwestour on December 23, 2023, 10:48:44 AM
That's your strategy, everyone can't be like you and that's how trading is, what works for you might not work for any individual. Some individual can trade daily and although they might not make profits everyday but at the end of the week or when they do their monthly wrap-up they'll be making profits. It doesn't also matter how long you take to trade or if you trade constantly, if you don't know how to make profits you still won't be successful at trading.

Trading everyday doesn't make you to be over trading, if you're making profits and you're not getting addicted then you can continue trading but when you're losing and still trading then you're doing something wrong and you need to stop trading or you'll lose all your money. Chasing after your loses is wrong and can be considered over trading as you'll exceeding your trading limit chasing losses.
Any overwork will affect the results of our work, no matter trading or any other work. And trading, by the way, is an even more complex job that requires constant concentration, especially when it comes to day trading. If we trade chaotically without a specific regime and without rules, then overwork will negatively affect us.

I see that successful traders can choose the most productive time for themselves, some see that they achieve the best results in the morning, so they trade only at this time, and the rest of the time they do other things.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 23, 2023, 10:49:59 AM
one of the things that makes traders experience more losses than profits is because they have the wrong approach in their involvement, of course patience is one of the things that every trader must have because with it you can minimize some actions that should not be done, one of which may act out of control because of emotions due to losses. But this is trading where if there is a profit opportunity then there will always be potential losses, the two things cannot be separated. And agree that most who experience losses quite often are beginners who have just come, as I said above that they come with the wrong approach, because usually they only focus on profit opportunities compared to risks while on the other hand they do not have the experience and skills that are qualified so that instead of getting profits but the opposite happens, namely suffering the number of losses.

That is why it is not uncommon for some novice traders who have just gotten involved but have already withdrawn or failed due to not being able to withstand all the losses they have experienced. Not understanding the concept of trading is also bad, we are human beings with feelings and if you do not understand trading along with what should be prepared for prevention then obviously out of control behavior is very likely to occur, which is why we must have risk management, take profit and stop los, it is very important to keep you from experiencing significant losses and avoid greed.
I understand that it is going to be tough to do this, because waiting for the right time could be a while and some people can't wait that long and make mistakes, but also we need to understand them as well. I mean if we focus on just the people who end up not making a mistake it is going to be a tough deal, it is not going to be easy at all.

I hope that people could end up with something much easier and better, we just need to make sure that it is going to end up with something that should be getting to a point where it may end up doing greater with waiting period. I think it's both understandable and also not that bad to have no patience towards trading, it is wrong, but it is an understandable wrong that many people are making daily.

Yes I admit it is difficult but in my opinion for people who are really serious in their intentions and determination I think nothing is impossible, we can see that there are those who succeed and those who fail, the question is what people who succeed do and what people who fail do, and if others can why can't we? of course for that problem I only say overall because of course everyone has their own capacity in terms of learning ability. On the other hand I think for the problem of whether or not it takes a long time to wait for the right time in my opinion it will also return to the learning ability of each person before they are involved in the actual trade, if indeed they have a good learning capacity then I think the learning will not take too long, and of course for that problem only they themselves can judge. On the other hand I think mistakes are natural in any field when someone is in the process, there will be no success if there are no mistakes that can be learned, of course they can start slowly while learning.

All of this is a choice, if indeed they feel able to get involved in the world of trading with all the difficulties that exist then please do, there is nothing wrong with trying and don't focus too much on profits if you are still in the early stages of involvement, if you feel fine and can get through all the difficulties then continue because chances are maybe this is the right profession for you. Basically you never know if you don't try.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: FanEagle on December 23, 2023, 01:45:02 PM
Overtrade can be simply explained as greed or can directly compare with it. People overtrade when they think that they will make extra profits from it. But eventually when the time passes, they end up making losses. It’s mostly seen from newbies if I have to be frank. This is common, and you need to work on it in order to control. I would suggest to keep smaller profit targets whenever trading. Once the target is achieved just cashout from the market. This is the best strategy, and you will not end up in losses.
Certainly it is greed. They can't just say that they over-trade for nothing but the main motive is trying or wanting to earn more. Although IDK, maybe it's also possible that they over-trade because they want to practice more? Or they simply enjoyed it? I think that anyone can over-trade, so we shouldn't always attacked the newbies.

In fact, newbies can be more careful about their action because they still lack in knowledge and experience. Whilst the experienced users are more confident about their ability so they may want to face more risk. Your given strategy seems great. But it also has a downside, and that is, we can end up paying more fees. Trading is still/always uncertain no matter what. So don't say that we won't lose anymore once we do your strategy.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bushdark on December 23, 2023, 02:37:27 PM
Newbies are easily influenced by unreliable crypto influencers that trading can go a long way and can even make them get rich quick if they have the persistency to trade. While it's partly true, but we all know that if we trade without sufficient knowledge about the basics in trading, we will never be successful with trading. Instead of seeing it as a way to reach our fortune, it could even lead to the worst scenario, that is getting suck from all our losses and even used up all our hard-earned money and wealth.

With that, overtrading can turn us into a state of distitute because we follow our greed over our our right thinking.
Many peo6migjt not know that over trading is a problem to even our mental health but many might not know the consequences in the later future. Whwther we are a crypto trader or fiat trader, we need to work with strategy and try to focus on what we give us profits in the market as traders that we are. We can make money in the market if we know how to trade very well and take quick decisions in time of uncertainty. We can stay more focus and trader according to our Capital and not becoming greedy.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 23, 2023, 03:10:04 PM
Whatsoever you overdo becomes a problem and trading is not an exception to that, and the more you trade, the more you become confused, and likely you are to make silly mistakes which will finally result in you incurring unnecessary loses. You don't need to trade so often to make huge profits in the marketin fact, over trading will likely lead someone to being a trading addict if care is not taken. The market is all about being calculative before taking your decision and being discipline.
There is nothing we overdo that doesn't have its consequence, and in trading, overtrading will surely affect traders negatively if care is not taken. It might not happen on the very first day, but the repetition of such can't have a good ending. What causes overtrading? Nothing but emotion. Be it when the trader is excited, maybe for winning and wants to win more (greed), or it could be for a bad trading day where the trader is trying to gain back his losses and thereby overtrading and making mistakes (revenge). Either way, it is so bad for traders to overtrade, this has impaired the psychology already, the trader is trading under the influence of emotion, nothing less, unless the trader is such that is so strong in his mind. There is no way he will not make mistakes. But for a few traders who actually follow their trading systems thoroughly, what people might call overtrading might not entirely be it. Still, such traders must be very careful of overconfidence for them not to lose by believing too much in themselves.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: kingvirtus09 on December 23, 2023, 03:26:46 PM
In a community in this business field, if you know for yourself that you are making a profit in crypto trading because you have deep knowledge of trading, then I think what you say about trade has no space in their thoughts.

If you trade and are hindered in your trading activity, I can even say that you will be able to overtrade, as you say. In short, if you are knowledgeable about trading, you will not lose profit every day for sure.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: MFahad on December 23, 2023, 03:30:08 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
that is so true. I've seen many of those so-called Youtube traders they even trade in live streams and show that they are making a lot of profit live at that moment. I really don't know if that is really possible or not maybe it  is possible with huge cables. but the sad thing is so many new traders with $50 to $100 follow their paths and end up losing all their investments.
I think they should teach new traders how trading works, and what are the odds and chances of losing and winning.  people see them as mentors they should really live up to that standard.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: leonair on December 23, 2023, 03:58:32 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Trading Gambling If you continue it for a long time without taking a break, you will lose one time, so the desire to get rich must be kept under control at all times, otherwise you will have to face a big loss. It is possible to make a lot of profit through trading by doing technical analysis but analysis only gives a possible direction it never guarantees profit. So no matter how professional one is he cannot guarantee that every trade will be successful. In this case it is true that one who trades more will also lose more


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Volimack on December 23, 2023, 04:18:30 PM
Yeah if you do something for a long time only for trading the attention decreases so if you take a break for some time you can focus on the work and it is easier to consider the market. Everyone knows that trading involves risk so patience is needed to get good results. Not all coins are possible to succeed. A good market research will help you choose the right coin and know the right time to trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sanitough on December 23, 2023, 04:28:13 PM
Overtrading is like abusing your opportunities to trade, so certainly not a good thing to practice. Even professionals still lose on some of their trades if they pursue trading despite of its unfavorable condition. At least, there should be good timing to trade, if not perfect. And patience should always be present in trading, so that a trader will not rush in trading just because of greed. He should analyze first the market well before he decides to trade and assume future profits.

Trading demands skills and strategies in order to succeed. So if you think you have not gained any of these, better not to enter trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 23, 2023, 04:37:39 PM
Everything must have a proper way of doing them. Limitation should be put on everything because if you go over the limit it becomes harmful. The same thing happens with threading. When you do by the rules it is profitable and the moment you overdo it, it starts to drain all your money.
It is common knowledge amongst the people who know it. Don't make decision when you don't have to. Those newbies are making a loss because they lack the knowledge. They do not have the experience to implement the knowledge for the best outcome. That's why they often fail and blame it on to trading. If they have the proper knowledge they wouldn't do it. So my advice is, learn first and then apply, which will give you the best results.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: the rise on December 23, 2023, 05:40:12 PM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: AakZaki on December 23, 2023, 06:35:25 PM
Actually it is your personal choice, whether you want to trade at any time and under any conditions. If the conditions are not possible in your opinion then don't do it and it's better to monitor. Only you can determine when is the right time to start trading. The more often you trade, the more often profits and losses will come, but as much as possible the profit percentage should be higher. Discipline in any trading strategy will help trade better.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2023, 07:07:52 PM
Aside the fact that in order to enhanced trading performance, one should trade more to gain trading experiences. But overtrading is already another story. No one can benefit from overtrading, because not all the time that the market is beneficial to trade. There are times that the market is hard to deal with due to its uncertainty, but there are times too that the market is very pleasing to trade.

If you are a good trader, you know how to trade and when to trade, and overtrading is just never a good option.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Assface16678 on December 23, 2023, 10:28:38 PM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital
Trading will never be a quick rich scheme as the OP said, that's why we can't believe about the other influencers that show casing their luxurious life brought by trading, because they making trading as easy as it looks to attract a lot of investors that could avail their services but in the end its not that easy, even if they will provide signals with not enough experience and analysis a trader will never wins or gain from those signals, maybe if they let the influencer to handle their account and funds so that they can do the trade, but the thing is the share of profit they are asking is too much, so no matter what you cannot become rich quickly in trading, even if experienced traders for almost a lot of years still can't get rich in trading, yes they can gain money from it but becoming rich is very hard.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: abel1337 on December 23, 2023, 11:14:50 PM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital
Trading will never be a quick rich scheme as the OP said, that's why we can't believe about the other influencers that show casing their luxurious life brought by trading, because they making trading as easy as it looks to attract a lot of investors that could avail their services but in the end its not that easy, even if they will provide signals with not enough experience and analysis a trader will never wins or gain from those signals, maybe if they let the influencer to handle their account and funds so that they can do the trade, but the thing is the share of profit they are asking is too much, so no matter what you cannot become rich quickly in trading, even if experienced traders for almost a lot of years still can't get rich in trading, yes they can gain money from it but becoming rich is very hard.
Yep, it is just like a marketing stunt for those influencers to avail their courses and services offered. If trading is easy and can possibly make you rich very easily, why isn't everyone are doing trades?

There are a lot of factors why our trades fail and one of those is the control of our emotions. Traders who lose on trades sometimes didn't get satisfied that's why they over trade. Doing over trades means that you can't control your emotion because you let your self make trades that aren't planned or studied which can result into more losses.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: GreatArkansas on December 23, 2023, 11:36:23 PM
Actually it is your personal choice, whether you want to trade at any time and under any conditions. If the conditions are not possible in your opinion then don't do it and it's better to monitor. Only you can determine when is the right time to start trading. The more often you trade, the more often profits and losses will come, but as much as possible the profit percentage should be higher. Discipline in any trading strategy will help trade better.
Still, the best is you have your plan, and you are not trading based on your emotion or only when do you want. Trading is not easy especially if you already doing it for a living, you need to focus.
But before that, you need to identify first what kind of trading do you want, how much time you are willing to put in trading, or how much in everyday you will use in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: taufik123 on December 23, 2023, 11:41:00 PM
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There are a lot of factors why our trades fail and one of those is the control of our emotions. Traders who lose on trades sometimes didn't get satisfied that's why they over trade. Doing over trades means that you can't control your emotion because you let your self make trades that aren't planned or studied which can result into more losses.
Anyone has experienced such a thing as Overtrade, even me when I first started trading too panicked when the price fell and when the price rose from the forecast then the greedy nature to get a higher price appeared.

This kind of thing will affect the control of trading emotions as well as the psychology of trading will be played with.
When there is no strategy and price reference to be reached, there is no point at which you should stop trading.

Big losses start from trades that are not well planned and there is no good money management to control how much is put in and how much is used for reserves, so there will be FOMO when prices rise dramatically and panic when they fall from the purchase price.

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Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 24, 2023, 09:34:17 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

Yes, I concur to the fact that trading needs patience until you finally starts being successful in it, but what if you don't become successful at the end of the day, I don't think trading is a job as they said, because making profit at all time is not guaranteed or certain, so how will it a sustenance stuff for individual, unless they are just giving instance, trading requires a lot of time to learn, you don't jump into trading because if you do,  you will lose your funds and regret later, I wish I know more about this trading, I would have been happy, is just people tends to talk more good than bad about trending but I don't see it that way because of the little orientation I have gotten so far from a friend, let's trade responsibly because this YouTubers are on marketing so you don't expect them to speak otherwise.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: boty on December 24, 2023, 10:02:45 AM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital
If we only think about profits in the trading we do, of course we will ignore the risks that could occur in the trading we do, we could even make the wrong decision in the trading we do, so it is very important for us to be careful in trading so that we can still control ourselves not to be greedy and also I agree with what you said if we have made a profit of 5-10% from the trading we have done, it would be better for us to enjoy the profits we have made and we can continue it on another occasion, however This really depends on each individual's personality in analyzing the market, whether we will survive to be able to get more profits than that or take the profits that we have obtained.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: kentrolla on December 24, 2023, 10:33:55 AM
Aside the fact that in order to enhanced trading performance, one should trade more to gain trading experiences. But overtrading is already another story. No one can benefit from overtrading, because not all the time that the market is beneficial to trade. There are times that the market is hard to deal with due to its uncertainty, but there are times too that the market is very pleasing to trade.

If you are a good trader, you know how to trade and when to trade, and overtrading is just never a good option.

Yes, it's all about the correct timing and a good trader should have very high level of patience and control emotions because trading is not like ATM card wherein you swipe in and get cash and I am aligned with the concept that overtrading creates more loss because you do over trading when there are hype or FOMO and when you have lost a t4ade you do repeated trades to recover the lost amount and that's when you go against the basic rules of trading like charts, technical indicators and that's when emotions takes better control over the strategy which results in loses often.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 24, 2023, 11:28:43 AM
Actually it is your personal choice, whether you want to trade at any time and under any conditions. If the conditions are not possible in your opinion then don't do it and it's better to monitor. Only you can determine when is the right time to start trading. The more often you trade, the more often profits and losses will come, but as much as possible the profit percentage should be higher. Discipline in any trading strategy will help trade better.
Still, the best is you have your plan, and you are not trading based on your emotion or only when do you want. Trading is not easy especially if you already doing it for a living, you need to focus.
But before that, you need to identify first what kind of trading do you want, how much time you are willing to put in trading, or how much in everyday you will use in trading.

Of course, I think planning is already a must-have for all traders, as you said that trading is not easy, therefore with good planning then obviously I think they will not be confused as to when to determine the entry time and exit time. Emotions are always a major problem for every trader, many end up tragically because they don't have a plan and don't have good self-management so when you don't have those two things then obviously you will trade at will, they will be easily fooled by something that looks tempting and they will easily enter without doing some considerations because it is based on emotions especially when they have previously experienced losses.

I think more do not plan trading as your main income especially if you have not really explored or mean not have high flying hours in this field because obviously something bad will never be known when it comes, the name of trading must have profit and loss and I can't imagine when you really need money for needs but on the other hand the market is not in your favor or that means losses are dominating, we must understand that trading requires a high level of calm, and if the situation you are being pressed for money then I am sure you will not be able to focus when trading based on pressure from needs.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on December 24, 2023, 11:40:26 AM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital
If we only think about profits in the trading we do, of course we will ignore the risks that could occur in the trading we do, we could even make the wrong decision in the trading we do, so it is very important for us to be careful in trading so that we can still control ourselves not to be greedy and also I agree with what you said if we have made a profit of 5-10% from the trading we have done, it would be better for us to enjoy the profits we have made and we can continue it on another occasion, however This really depends on each individual's personality in analyzing the market, whether we will survive to be able to get more profits than that or take the profits that we have obtained.

Setting your target and keep it that way is far better than trying to push for more, most of the time those who over trade losses the opportunity,  as chances that you may overlook the market and instead of gaining  or enjoying the benefits may takeaway from you.  I guess like what you said it's depends from how a person take his position

Personally, I would go with small winnings than become greed and push for more and eventually regret when mistake happen and lose my investment.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bushdark on December 24, 2023, 02:50:22 PM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital
Over trading mostly lewd to big loses if we are not careful of the way we are trading and the strategies we tend to use.
It is quite better for us to trade based on signals from the market rather trading with emotions. Emotion trading is a way for us to lose big from the market. Accumulating trading skills is what will really helps us to benefit from the market. We can achieve and become a good trader when we have learntbt the ways and utilize it to make profits for ourselves.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Huppercase on December 24, 2023, 06:12:08 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

The worst any trader can do is to rush and run over the market when it's not juicy to trade. The market is full of plenty of opportunities but it is not a signal to set up trades. If I pledge my life to trading as a means of survival, most of the times in bear market, I will not trade. I will only be looking out for opportunities to accumulate some coins and hold and then look for another funds to trade when the market is bullish again, most of the time it's easy to make money following trend than trading a coin without anything that is driving it upward, I mean look at the profit Solana has printed this month on the weekly candles.

Not trading is even part of trading as you get to check errors and mistake of other people, as people chase after profits in trading, I don't get tempted and if I see the market dropping badly, most I can do is to open a small short position and look what happen and when I get a significant profits, I will close the position without thinking if the market will slide down further or not, my guilt don't fail me and that's why I don't loss much in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: virasog on December 24, 2023, 08:50:19 PM
Trading that is done because we want to get rich quickly will not be good where we only think about profits without thinking about the risks of each trade, even when the market supports it, sometimes we still have to suffer, for me a loss of 1-5% and a profit of 5-10% is enough and You have to prepare mentally and capital

Trading is not something that can be done always. There are some market conditions that are feasible for the trading and experience trader should know which conditions are best for the trading and what are the times best for trading and identifying those times when staying away from the trade is more than beneficial.

Remember getting profit from trading is secondary thing , saving your capital from the losses should be the primary focus for the traders.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: poodle63 on December 25, 2023, 12:53:53 AM
Aside the fact that in order to enhanced trading performance, one should trade more to gain trading experiences. But overtrading is already another story. No one can benefit from overtrading, because not all the time that the market is beneficial to trade. There are times that the market is hard to deal with due to its uncertainty, but there are times too that the market is very pleasing to trade.

If you are a good trader, you know how to trade and when to trade, and overtrading is just never a good option.
thats right sometime some people that overtrades are those that trying to make up for their losses in previous trade thinking that they somehow might score big this time around because they already incurred lose before.
I dont agree with such trade out of getting tilted honestly, such thign are always the one that cause people to lose big in trades.
i've had my share of trading and when thing are going unexpected i'd just try to be calm and take the best decision there is, cut lose if necessary if the market showing to be grim all time around and just wait it out if the market is still looking good anyway but i would never just trade to make up for my lose because thats one step closer to bankruptcy.
cool headed decision making in trading is the biggest factor that could determine whether we can be trading and be profitable or we just gonna outright lose our money in the future.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on December 25, 2023, 06:54:05 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

Absolutely, almost novice traders are always motivated by excitement and the need for quick money, see cryptocurrency as a way to get rich quickly. They overtrade as a result of this misperception because they anticipate rapid wealth. But as with any market, the ultimate secret to success with cryptocurrency is to choose quality over quantity. Rather of being the result of rash trade, deliberate, well-informed judgments yield sustainable gains.It's crucial for newcomers to shift their focus from quick gains to developing a deep understanding of the market, adopting a patient approach, and making quality trades. Long-term success in crypto requires diligence, education, and a disciplined investment strategy that goes beyond the allure of rapid returns.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sebas.tian on December 25, 2023, 07:47:32 AM
Quote from: Altryist
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.

Once you acquired the knowledge of cryptocurrency trading, you will discover that there are some things you will see in the market during the bearing season that will make you not to rush to sell your coins than to continue buying and wait for the bullish season to come before you can trade to take income from the market. If you want to earn a huge amount of money from your trading, do everything possible to ensure you hold that coins like three or four years before you can trade to make plenty money. Well, as a newbies you can trade once the price of crypto increase little to take a profit from the market and wait again for the price to decrease before you can buy again for another bullish season to come.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: fredericktaylor on December 25, 2023, 10:29:36 AM
Old people or newbies can never profit through over trade because over trade will lead to losses for most traders depending on the market dynamics you have to invest there will be times when investing in the market will have a 99% chance of loss. To become a good trader, you need to master trading skills.

Investing in the market requires skill and strategy to be successful so if you feel you have not learned anything about trading then better stay away from the treat.

Investing without knowing this knowledge about your trade is more likely to result in loss.  You need to understand when to trade and when to sit patiently, it is better not to come to the trading platform without knowing these.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: carlisle1 on December 25, 2023, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Altryist
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.

Once you acquired the knowledge of cryptocurrency trading, you will discover that there are some things you will see in the market during the bearing season that will make you not to rush to sell your coins than to continue buying and wait for the bullish season to come before you can trade to take income from the market. If you want to earn a huge amount of money from your trading, do everything possible to ensure you hold that coins like three or four years before you can trade to make plenty money. Well, as a newbies you can trade once the price of crypto increase little to take a profit from the market and wait again for the price to decrease before you can buy again for another bullish season to come.

Acquiring the right knowledge gives you that edge to anticipate, though it's not as accurate as it can be, but you can use it as basis before
positioning your trades.

I agree that when someone make that move during the bear season and wait till the bull season take place, the amount of possible profits is decent.

Just work with your research and study to pick the right coin to invest your money, your knowledge is your key to
find the right project to invest.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Patrol69 on December 25, 2023, 01:43:07 PM
It is still possible to make a profit if you can do extra trading. Those whose profession is trading always read about the market and their goal is to trade at the right time. They are professional traders and their work is trading so trading is never superfluous for them. If you don't know about trading and even if you do small amount of trading then you are more likely to lose because you don't know about trading. Overtrading I really don't want to accept this. You have the skills you have the ability You can definitely trade and the more you have the skills the more likely you are to make a profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 25, 2023, 03:44:37 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
op I agree with you. Because there are still many traders who think that they will become overnight millionaires by trading in a few days, it is completely wrong. When we trade we must plan to move slowly through the trade. But we should never trade with the attitude that we will become a millionaire by trading in a month. Patience is very important in trading. We all have to have a long-term plan while trading
Full of confidence without the right experience. It's not just it happens on crypto but on different market as well, you can also compare it to first timers who has a really great expectation about their first business. There are so many motivators in the internet but those people really survive in their niche facing a lot of losses along their way on being profitable.

Those who are aiming for quick rich schemes are the one who are probably losing their money. Confidence is important but it is much more effective if the confidence is paired with knowledge and experience.

I saw where someone wrote that trading is a job, I thought about this for a while but I couldn't have enough insight on this, how will you be confident with something that is programmed without knowing the tricks involved, I don't know much about trading but I know that trading is not for people who feel that they can come immediately and start making money, I think every has a process and that proceed has to be followed for one to be successful in that field, in trading I understand that you must lose to learn, because before you master a movement, if not, you will continue to lose.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: macson on December 25, 2023, 05:52:10 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
there are many traders who lose because they are too impulsive in trading, many even do not rest for hours, eat and drink late, this is what actually makes their minds confused, gambling must be accompanied by a good lifestyle, so that it is regular and also get enough rest (8 hours a day) if don't do that then it will be impossible to make a profit in trading.  Trading is an activity that involves playing with money, the slightest mistake will cause us to lose capital, overtrading is never good for a trader, stop at the right time, and the trading hours are reasonable, don't ever think that the more we trade in 24 hours full then we will become rich, that's a wrong idea.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: AakZaki on December 25, 2023, 07:35:15 PM
Of course, I think planning is already a must-have for all traders, as you said that trading is not easy, therefore with good planning then obviously I think they will not be confused as to when to determine the entry time and exit time. Emotions are always a major problem for every trader, many end up tragically because they don't have a plan and don't have good self-management so when you don't have those two things then obviously you will trade at will, they will be easily fooled by something that looks tempting and they will easily enter without doing some considerations because it is based on emotions especially when they have previously experienced losses.

I think more do not plan trading as your main income especially if you have not really explored or mean not have high flying hours in this field because obviously something bad will never be known when it comes, the name of trading must have profit and loss and I can't imagine when you really need money for needs but on the other hand the market is not in your favor or that means losses are dominating, we must understand that trading requires a high level of calm, and if the situation you are being pressed for money then I am sure you will not be able to focus when trading based on pressure from needs.
Therefore, using money that is not needed when the situation is urgent will be very good because it will not interfere with ongoing main investments.
Allocate the money only for investment and if you have reserves that would be even better. I always adhere to this guideline, so that personal money and investment money will not mix and there will be no sales due to urgent needs.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 25, 2023, 09:04:39 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Trading should not be considered as a full time job, because you cannot depend on bitcoin Trading alone because when you depend on it, you might lose for the Trading and their is every possiblity that you might fall totally, its better we diversify our source of income and it's good that we should not depend on a particular business that brings income, so if you are a trader do not hope that your average profits can continue to sustain till eternity


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Humblevirus on December 25, 2023, 09:20:44 PM
It is still possible to make a profit if you can do extra trading. Those whose profession is trading always read about the market and their goal is to trade at the right time. They are professional traders and their work is trading so trading is never superfluous for them. If you don't know about trading and even if you do small amount of trading then you are more likely to lose because you don't know about trading. Overtrading I really don't want to accept this. You have the skills you have the ability You can definitely trade and the more you have the skills the more likely you are to make a profit.

I somewhat agreed with you that, for someone who is well-versed in trading, additional trading will never result in financial loss; however, the reality is that, if someone engages in excessive trading, they will not have enough time to conduct adequate research. For this reason, I believe that, regardless of trading skill level, excessive trading can lead to financial loss because it takes time to thoroughly investigate any coin that a trader wishes to trade. Therefore, refraining from overtrading is the best method for someone to enjoy trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: boyptc on December 25, 2023, 09:28:17 PM
Old people or newbies can never profit through over trade because over trade will lead to losses for most traders depending on the market dynamics you have to invest there will be times when investing in the market will have a 99% chance of loss.
That means that no one's going to make profit with trading because you've said either old or newbies.

Overtrading isn't bad at all but I also understand that there's no need for a trader to go and overtrade when he's already in profit. With that means to say, when someone who doesn't have enough profits yet.

They will overtrade because that's what it means to them until they reach certain profit that they're targeting.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: carlisle1 on December 26, 2023, 09:44:36 PM
Old people or newbies can never profit through over trade because over trade will lead to losses for most traders depending on the market dynamics you have to invest there will be times when investing in the market will have a 99% chance of loss.
That means that no one's going to make profit with trading because you've said either old or newbies.

Overtrading isn't bad at all but I also understand that there's no need for a trader to go and overtrade when he's already in profit. With that means to say, when someone who doesn't have enough profits yet.

They will overtrade because that's what it means to them until they reach certain profit that they're targeting.

Nothing is wrong only if the trader understand how things works, though most of the time, overtrading is because of greed, instead of quitting or calling
for the day and enjoy your profits.

Some traders insist to try for more, thinking that they will continue to make more winning positions, and if by bad luck, all those new positions will be
wipe out as the direction of the market eventually didn't favor your assessment.

Always have that set target and enjoy instead of regretting if you miscalculated the possible market directions.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Maslate on December 26, 2023, 09:58:55 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: GeorgeJohn on December 26, 2023, 10:37:28 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
What trading needs is a continuous practicing, I understand that in trading their is one of the important thing in trading and I believe that in trading you have to understand the scope or concepts very well before you venture into trading, one of the barriers that makes people or newly traders to lose in trading is as result of lack of understanding the rudiments,  making profits in trading is due to your engagement and your seriousness and inability to enter trading market when you are supposed to enter market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: deathcode on December 27, 2023, 03:02:54 AM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
If this situation occurs, traders should start to learn that there is something wrong in the analysis or asset selection they are doing.
Sometimes traders have the feeling of chasing profits when they experience consecutive losses. of course that is a bad choice because the situation will only increase losses because trading like that is not recommended.
however, traders are sometimes too eager to trade every day. especially if they are beginner traders. they have a lot of interest in a lot of assets and they want to try them out.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on December 27, 2023, 12:04:50 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

Yes, many newcomers get into cryptocurrency with the mindset of getting rich in a short period of time. They don’t think of getting a deep understanding of the market, including the risks and how to manage them. It's very important for everybody getting into the business to understand the market before they start what brings them here, whether trading or investment, but they have risks, and those risks must be known for someone to be a successful trader or investor.

However, they think overtrading will help, which is wrong. A knowledgeable trader doesn’t need too much I or F trading before they get profit or take advantage of the market; they don’t have to chase the market; they need to wait for the market to change in a positive direction so that they can get what they want, although I can’t blame them much because of all the knowledge that they lack. However, I think they should learn deeply so that they will get what they want.

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Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

But you know losing in trading is constant, whether you like it or not. You must lose in trading unless you will not. However, the only way to manage the risk is with skills and technical analysis so that you can be able to manage the market and take advantage of it. But just because you are not trading anytime doesn’t mean you are managing the risk that involves it. Maybe you don’t have money to trade or you are still learning and you don’t want to get deeply into it without the knowledge.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Pandu Geddon on December 27, 2023, 12:11:00 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
If this situation occurs, traders should start to learn that there is something wrong in the analysis or asset selection they are doing.
Sometimes traders have the feeling of chasing profits when they experience consecutive losses. of course that is a bad choice because the situation will only increase losses because trading like that is not recommended.
however, traders are sometimes too eager to trade every day. especially if they are beginner traders. they have a lot of interest in a lot of assets and they want to try them out.

It's not wrong if done by beginners. it even seems natural for beginners to make such trades. but it's not recommended. especially if a novice trader has no one to direct them or friends to help them. it can be very bad when a trader chases a win in a series of losses that have already been earned.
traders must have control over when they should exit a trade and when they should continue. The target is still profit, but we cannot avoid losses if what we do ends up not being in accordance with plans and expectations.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 28, 2023, 11:50:38 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Trading should not be considered as a full time job, because you cannot depend on bitcoin Trading alone because when you depend on it, you might lose for the Trading and their is every possiblity that you might fall totally, its better we diversify our source of income and it's good that we should not depend on a particular business that brings income, so if you are a trader do not hope that your average profits can continue to sustain till eternity
I don't agree with you, trading is such that can be done full-time, and as a matter of fact, some people do this and they are successful with it. Let me first say that when you know how to trade and fully understand the rudiment to the extent that you have been making consistent money for months and years, I don't think you should be afraid again, and by that time, you must have been making multiple times of what any job could give you. So why waste your time and life? It is because trading is risky and most people are losing through it that is causing the fear. But once you know it, you know it.

Fine, in the beginning, I expect everybody not to expect too high of the market trading, nonetheless, when they eventually get the code that unlocks its success, why not? Trading is a passive income means if I must buttress my point, and I tell people to view it as such too, that is not because it can't be a source of a living, but because I wouldn't want people to have too high hopes in it from the beginning that might cause issues on their mental state while trading. But really, many are trading alone for real and trading in Bitcoin is the cheapest I have ever seen. Many will continue to make their best out of it and get to be successful easily if they have found the code that unlocks it. For this, I see not many issues here, just give it all it takes and you will be just fine.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: carlfebz2 on December 28, 2023, 12:52:47 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
If this situation occurs, traders should start to learn that there is something wrong in the analysis or asset selection they are doing.
Sometimes traders have the feeling of chasing profits when they experience consecutive losses. of course that is a bad choice because the situation will only increase losses because trading like that is not recommended.
however, traders are sometimes too eager to trade every day. especially if they are beginner traders. they have a lot of interest in a lot of assets and they want to try them out.

It's not wrong if done by beginners. it even seems natural for beginners to make such trades. but it's not recommended. especially if a novice trader has no one to direct them or friends to help them. it can be very bad when a trader chases a win in a series of losses that have already been earned.
traders must have control over when they should exit a trade and when they should continue. The target is still profit, but we cannot avoid losses if what we do ends up not being in accordance with plans and expectations.
We do all start on being a noob on which it would really be just that natural that we would really be experiencing those mistakes and errors on which it would really be just that common. As we do go far ahead then we would really be that slowly be able to learnt up new things as we do go forward. No one starts on being a pro directly on which it would really be just that normal that we are really that prone to tons of mistakes comparing into those people who do already have the experience on which it would really be just that normal that they would be having that edge but sooner or later those noobs would really be becoming that experienced and this is something that everyone would really be going. You would really just need for yourself to sustain and survive.

Yes, its never been easy but not something that impossible!.Over trading would really be that usual specially on noobs or into those people who dont have much experience. You wont really be that
able to survive or proceed on if you would really be just easily give up. Adjustments and be versatile is the primary behavior on which you would really be that needing
for you to surve this market. It wont really be that simple but not impossible.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on December 28, 2023, 04:45:11 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
If this situation occurs, traders should start to learn that there is something wrong in the analysis or asset selection they are doing.
Sometimes traders have the feeling of chasing profits when they experience consecutive losses. of course that is a bad choice because the situation will only increase losses because trading like that is not recommended.
however, traders are sometimes too eager to trade every day. especially if they are beginner traders. they have a lot of interest in a lot of assets and they want to try them out.

It's not wrong if done by beginners. it even seems natural for beginners to make such trades. but it's not recommended. especially if a novice trader has no one to direct them or friends to help them. it can be very bad when a trader chases a win in a series of losses that have already been earned.
traders must have control over when they should exit a trade and when they should continue. The target is still profit, but we cannot avoid losses if what we do ends up not being in accordance with plans and expectations.

.It's a common mistake and need to learn the hard way. I'm pretty sure when traders lose a lot, adjustments should be made, unlike with newcomers, they will try to push for more. Trading is a business where knowledge is the best line of support. All have the same intention, to earn money and be successful, but there are times when, instead of having a good winning trade,

Out of greed, a trader will try to push for more instead of stopping and enjoying those winning profits. Over trading also pollutes your mind. Everything that will circulate inside it is about how to earn more, forgetting that the market will not always be as friendly as you think it would.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Hamphser on December 29, 2023, 08:35:29 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
If this situation occurs, traders should start to learn that there is something wrong in the analysis or asset selection they are doing.
Sometimes traders have the feeling of chasing profits when they experience consecutive losses. of course that is a bad choice because the situation will only increase losses because trading like that is not recommended.
however, traders are sometimes too eager to trade every day. especially if they are beginner traders. they have a lot of interest in a lot of assets and they want to try them out.

It's not wrong if done by beginners. it even seems natural for beginners to make such trades. but it's not recommended. especially if a novice trader has no one to direct them or friends to help them. it can be very bad when a trader chases a win in a series of losses that have already been earned.
traders must have control over when they should exit a trade and when they should continue. The target is still profit, but we cannot avoid losses if what we do ends up not being in accordance with plans and expectations.

.It's a common mistake and need to learn the hard way. I'm pretty sure when traders lose a lot, adjustments should be made, unlike with newcomers, they will try to push for more. Trading is a business where knowledge is the best line of support. All have the same intention, to earn money and be successful, but there are times when, instead of having a good winning trade,

Out of greed, a trader will try to push for more instead of stopping and enjoying those winning profits. Over trading also pollutes your mind. Everything that will circulate inside it is about how to earn more, forgetting that the market will not always be as friendly as you think it would.
People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2023, 09:34:35 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

Yes, many newcomers get into cryptocurrency with the mindset of getting rich in a short period of time. They don’t think of getting a deep understanding of the market, including the risks and how to manage them. It's very important for everybody getting into the business to understand the market before they start what brings them here, whether trading or investment, but they have risks, and those risks must be known for someone to be a successful trader or investor.

Okay, trading is not for everyone, that was the fact. Those who think they could many in a short period will never gonna make it, they will just lose their money. Based on my experience, impatience doesn't fit this job and that is who I was before I realized that it should never be like that si I change my behavior and market approach. It is very important that we are clear on our goal and sometimes we listen to the advice of these successful traders but other than that, it all be our actions and market response. If we fail, it means there is something wrong with us and that is what we have to correct or else, quit trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on December 30, 2023, 11:37:35 AM

People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Mahanton on December 30, 2023, 12:43:12 PM

People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.
You would really be that having that instinct that you would really be needing to adjust as this one would really be your main primary goal or thing that must done on which you would be needing to adjust whenever you do notice that you are really that doing something wrong on which on the time  that we had planned on touching up this space. We are really that aiming or targeting for us to be profitable. If we do able to encounter or experience hardship then it would be just that normal that you would really be doing the reverse thing on which you are really making those counter trades. It is really indeed a lots of trial and error when it comes to trading or this market on which there's no one would really be able to know on where it would really be heading. Over trade? This is a common word but there are fellas who are really that exerting much effort on dealing up with the market in prolong period of time.

It is really just that there are ones who could be able to bare up the risks and there are ones who do really just want to play safe. There would be no assurance
that results would be positive but we dont really know unless we do try. This is why even we are struggling or having those challenges. We arent really that
easily giving up on things.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Peanutswar on December 30, 2023, 12:48:07 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.


People are now often with social media and we know how this is with the advertisements, posts, content of people to their different platforms they think that's how it is so easy to earn money in trading but after they get in that's the time they will realize that this is not just all about the money but also with the knowledge and understanding with the market situation.


They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Pandu Geddon on December 30, 2023, 01:52:08 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.

Many beginners without trading knowledge do get into futures trading by following their friends or even following directions from video tutorials on certain platforms.
actually, it is not a problem for beginners to learn to trade. but if they're not ready, at least they'll look for someone who can give them advice. or at least teach yourself to get to know trading. instead of condemning trading as gambling because they always receive consecutive losses.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Mr.suevie on December 30, 2023, 02:03:18 PM
They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

If you join in trading without proper preparation and knowledge its like you are just giving your money easily. Because of their denial stage they now keep blaming the platform or the trading itself just to give them self relief due to their mistakes.

Many beginners without trading knowledge do get into futures trading by following their friends or even following directions from video tutorials on certain platforms.
actually, it is not a problem for beginners to learn to trade. but if they're not ready, at least they'll look for someone who can give them advice. or at least teach yourself to get to know trading. instead of condemning trading as gambling because they always receive consecutive losses.
For me I feel just an advice only doesn't cut it when it comes to issues like trading because trading is something that takes time to fully understand the whole concept of it. Some of the beginners that rush into trading without properly understand the concept of it ,were probably lure by the stories of others and also maybe the success they achieve from their first time try in most of the trading app courtesy of the demo account and funds already in it. I have seen so many persons complain that they were good in trading as they successfully traded good profits in their demo account but when they funded the real deal the whole shit turned sideways.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Huppercase on December 30, 2023, 08:36:51 PM
Old people or newbies can never profit through over trade because over trade will lead to losses for most traders depending on the market dynamics you have to invest there will be times when investing in the market will have a 99% chance of loss. To become a good trader, you need to master trading skills.

Investing in the market requires skill and strategy to be successful so if you feel you have not learned anything about trading then better stay away from the treat.

Investing without knowing this knowledge about your trade is more likely to result in loss.  You need to understand when to trade and when to sit patiently, it is better not to come to the trading platform without knowing these.

It doesn't matter, this applies most of the time in bear market. If you watch closely, trading in bear market attract less people and less trading gives low volume. This is when you see exchanges decline in numbers of visitors and coins don't move like that but look at now that we are out of bear market. The volume has done 2 times and are booming everyday, Solana is example of coins that has gain much attention and despite the price making correction, it's going up everyday and people continue to trade it with profits.

Over trading is a bad practice but if you are good in your game and understand what is happening around the coin you are trading, you wouldn't loss because you will be working with the technical analysis and the fundamental. Solana as an example, there is a buy back to attract people, market makers are doing their thing, there is a massive airdroo to be given to Solana holders, FTX is working things out so as they can sell and lastly manipulation. If you know these and understand trading trend, you can trade as much as you like while the hype last without making any loss.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on December 30, 2023, 10:20:43 PM

You would really be that having that instinct that you would really be needing to adjust as this one would really be your main primary goal or thing that must done on which you would be needing to adjust whenever you do notice that you are really that doing something wrong on which on the time  that we had planned on touching up this space. We are really that aiming or targeting for us to be profitable. If we do able to encounter or experience hardship then it would be just that normal that you would really be doing the reverse thing on which you are really making those counter trades. It is really indeed a lots of trial and error when it comes to trading or this market on which there's no one would really be able to know on where it would really be heading. Over trade? This is a common word but there are fellas who are really that exerting much effort on dealing up with the market in prolong period of time.

It is really just that there are ones who could be able to bare up the risks and there are ones who do really just want to play safe. There would be no assurance
that results would be positive but we dont really know unless we do try. This is why even we are struggling or having those challenges. We arent really that
easily giving up on things.

On that point, there are people or traders who will keep trying and will find ways to succeed while for some, they are unable to adjust and fing their position in the difficult side after doing lots of trades, the point is if you can't handle the risk, you should have that set limitation and make sure not to exceed, be contened with what you earn or with your winning trades, make sure to keep allowing yourself to breath out and not to psuh for more, being so much greedy will lead you to lose more compared to have a better winning rates during your trade sessions.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on December 31, 2023, 04:56:37 AM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
People who think trading is a get-rich-quick scheme are completely wrong. Yes you can earn money from trading but you must have a lot of experience in the trading platform. You will never feel restless while trading. Trading should follow market volatility, don't trade on impulse.  Also never be too greedy in trading platform because greed destroys people very fast. I follow all these things while trading due to which till now I have not faced any trading losses. However, after taking the trade, there is a temporary loss. I am not a long term trader I am trading for short term.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 31, 2023, 08:33:41 AM

People would really be able to learn up on hardway on which they would really be just starting to realize things on the time that they would really be encountering those unfortunate conditions. Whereas, they could really be able to avoid it out on the first place if they are really just that mindful on the things that they are dealing with and not something that they would really be that sticking into those things that they do have initially believed. yes, its not bad to stick into those plans but we do know that there are plans which are needed to be that changed for you to move forward. Overtrading is really that a common behavior of most newbies on which we do really have in mind that the more we do trade the more chances that we could hit up a good trade on which it is really that very wrong.

Sooner or later you would be able to realize on to those things werent just that right for you to deal with. There's no way that you could really be able to stop those losses and mistakes to be done.
This is why adjustments would really be that crucial or something that be in default on which you would really be needing to do so.

Adjustments and lots of it is really needed to have a better chance in terms of trading, with how the way you trade will always need assessment and better analyzis in order to know if you are still doing the right thing or you are already being beaten by greed inside you and you are doing it the way like you are gambling with opportunities.

Over trading which exceeding from your limits might bring you decent benefits only if timing is right but if not, expect that it will
only create losses and can bring aggressions that will push you to keep trying for more, that kind of emotion needs to be corrected
as it will cause you losing more money.
Let your emotions rule you in trading and you get to lose it all, traders should never let it out, and the more you know how to tame yourself, the better for you. Trading is certainly risky but there are good approaches to it that will lighten all the dangers in it, and the number one rule is that you should never trade when you are not yourself. No matter how you believe you are experienced, you can only enjoy the experience when you are still yourself, but when emotion has set in, that means it is no more you that is trading but the mention in you. This is why it is good to take a break when one feels an iota of emotion. This starts when you are passing aggression, or overtrading, maybe because you are greedy or you want to recover back your losses.

For the latter, the result has always been losses, no trader will be trading with the wrong psychology that will be able to make success unless the trader is lucky. Even for the luck part, you can only be lucky to make profits or recover back your losses at times but that will not take you anywhere near a successful trading career itself. Let us always be practical and disciplined as we trade, we should shun greed and fear, and we should shun the urge for overtrading or risking excessively. They can't help but make sure that they set our accounts to zero balance ($0).


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bushdark on December 31, 2023, 08:54:01 AM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Zigabel on December 31, 2023, 09:13:34 AM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Patience and discipline is one thing most newbies and even experienced traders lack, in their bid to wanting to cease every opportunity they see in the market, they don't wait for their set up again before they trade and this eventually ends in losses and a few times in profits. To stay profitable on trades, you have to learn patience and have the discipline for execution aswell and that's what I see from what you have stated

There are times you set up will literally take days or even weeks to show up but if it finally does, applying good risk management and proper execution, you become very much profitable enough to cover up for the wait which will turn out that it was worth the while.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on December 31, 2023, 12:15:33 PM

Let your emotions rule you in trading and you get to lose it all, traders should never let it out, and the more you know how to tame yourself, the better for you. Trading is certainly risky but there are good approaches to it that will lighten all the dangers in it, and the number one rule is that you should never trade when you are not yourself. No matter how you believe you are experienced, you can only enjoy the experience when you are still yourself, but when emotion has set in, that means it is no more you that is trading but the mention in you. This is why it is good to take a break when one feels an iota of emotion. This starts when you are passing aggression, or overtrading, maybe because you are greedy or you want to recover back your losses.


I see your point, trading out of greediness can result to a failure, better to trade when you are well prepared and not just trying to add more with your winning streaks, there are many factors that will affect you, having that kind of confidence which most of the time reflects in making mistake, not saying that you won't succeed but if you are not well prepared and you are just aiming to earn more, it's a risky way of trading and can ends up losing your investment.

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For the latter, the result has always been losses, no trader will be trading with the wrong psychology that will be able to make success unless the trader is lucky. Even for the luck part, you can only be lucky to make profits or recover back your losses at times but that will not take you anywhere near a successful trading career itself. Let us always be practical and disciplined as we trade, we should shun greed and fear, and we should shun the urge for overtrading or risking excessively. They can't help but make sure that they set our accounts to zero balance ($0).

Yes, aside from luck the outcome mostly against your position, you need to have a good planning and strategy to make things be more successful and lessen the chance of losing your capital, having that right knowledge is always your edge when dealing inside trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Yamifoud on December 31, 2023, 04:46:53 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.
NO, overtrade means not good as you're risking more than usual and it is not a healthy practice for a trader.
If you are thinking that over-trading will help you earn more, then that is wrong but this will lead you to instant losses and mental impact in the future. A trader must know how to control themselves and must know their limitations as well.

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: cyberninja2 on January 01, 2024, 01:14:38 PM
NO, overtrade means not good as you're risking more than usual and it is not a healthy practice for a trader.
If you are thinking that over-trading will help you earn more, then that is wrong but this will lead you to instant losses and mental impact in the future. A trader must know how to control themselves and must know their limitations as well.
Many are taking risks now, because they know that for the future they think the risks they take now will be healthy because the impact will be profitable for those who dare to take or want to control traders without limits.


A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.
We must admit that market conditions, if someone who is successful depends on the market conditions, if the market when he starts opening a business with a stable market condition or even more than stable, maybe someone will immediately rise or be successful.
If we look at the current market conditions, whether we open a small or large business, no matter how great we are seduced if the economic conditions of the people are still like this, really that a lot of capital can fall now.




Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: |MINER| on January 05, 2024, 04:09:11 PM
Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Y3shot on January 05, 2024, 07:14:01 PM
Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.
In crypto trading greed is one of the habit that traders needs to try their best to overcome,  greed will make you feel as if you haven't trade enough and will give you more urge to continue trading. Greed will make you never to be satisfied with the little profit you have and as you continue to play you will just end up losing everything.  In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: God bless u on January 15, 2024, 04:47:02 PM
Anyone who thinks of trading as a business will lose everything.  Trading is not a business field. Trading is not a place to make money.  You have to come to trading with them in mind.  If you are greedy, you will lose everything.  Don't think of crypto world as the world of money.  You have to understand the market conditions and trade.  When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.

should not be greedy in trading because it will waste whatever money we have, instead we should trade with patience and complacency,
for example if we take a coin. If it goes down, we should be patient for it, we should not sell this loss In the coming time, our money may go up to two or three times, but if we sell what we have, or if we buy and sell in loss every time then we will make a loss.

That means our profit will be less and loss will be more so first of all we should be patient and not to do trade too much like greedy trade again and again in this condition our money will be safe.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: poodle63 on January 15, 2024, 06:01:22 PM
I see your point, trading out of greediness can result to a failure, better to trade when you are well prepared and not just trying to add more with your winning streaks, there are many factors that will affect you, having that kind of confidence which most of the time reflects in making mistake, not saying that you won't succeed but if you are not well prepared and you are just aiming to earn more, it's a risky way of trading and can ends up losing your investment.
usually such trading out of greediness is because to compensate previous lose or we are so sure that the coin we trying to buy are gonna grow within short amount of time honestly if we know that there's something that gonna come up that might increase the price significantly such as news about listing and so on then its okay to be greedy with trading that coin but i think its not fine if we are making decision when we are hot headed because previous lose.

I've experienced plenty such thing and always further lose is what I get.

therefore indeed trading with cold head is definitely gonna yield a lot more result than being aggravated into thinking that by going all in we might compensate our previous lose, try to reason then we might find profit at the end of the day.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 24, 2024, 04:23:37 PM
In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.
You are only overtrading if you are using more than o your budget. Whether that is done with logic or not is a different question. Most of the times emotionally charged situations may commit a person to trade more than their budget illogically, this leads to more losses than wins. Hence they should take care to avoid such situations.

Keeping a trading limit can help here. But keeping the proper mindset should be emphasized on. Newbie traders are more susceptible to make this mistake than veteran ones.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: pusaka on January 24, 2024, 05:10:28 PM
In trading it is important people gets to understand the limit of how they should trade, and not to spend all their time thinking of making more profit.
You are only overtrading if you are using more than o your budget. Whether that is done with logic or not is a different question. Most of the times emotionally charged situations may commit a person to trade more than their budget illogically, this leads to more losses than wins. Hence they should take care to avoid such situations.

Keeping a trading limit can help here. But keeping the proper mindset should be emphasized on. Newbie traders are more susceptible to make this mistake than veteran ones.

We do have to be able to allocate how much of our money to trade and we should not exceed that limit, if we exceed the limit that we have set at the beginning it means that we are already controlled by emotions so that we can no longer think logically, just like what you said.
More than that, trading also cannot escape our readiness in all matters, including in very sensitive matters, namely money. We must have financial management for trading so well that we forget when we should stop when losses come our way.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: palle11 on January 24, 2024, 05:40:55 PM

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.

I have noticed that over trading is the main characteristics of newbie traders and that is because of anxiety, greed, lack of self discipline. These factors will make such a trader to lose his emotion to control his trade. In fact, a new trader barely understand what is happening in the market and only what to chase every candlesticks like his mentor has mentioned candlesticks to him. Successful traders are those who have lost their money over the years and probably learn their mistake that they make and now get better with such experience. I believe a trader who is new and making profit is not yet successful until you have been experienced because at the time the profit is coming, it may be you are on the right trend but if the trend change, that comes the real trade challenge. Patience is important to be a successful trader.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Xampeuu on January 25, 2024, 04:25:10 AM

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.

I have noticed that over trading is the main characteristics of newbie traders and that is because of anxiety, greed, lack of self discipline. These factors will make such a trader to lose his emotion to control his trade. In fact, a new trader barely understand what is happening in the market and only what to chase every candlesticks like his mentor has mentioned candlesticks to him. Successful traders are those who have lost their money over the years and probably learn their mistake that they make and now get better with such experience. I believe a trader who is new and making profit is not yet successful until you have been experienced because at the time the profit is coming, it may be you are on the right trend but if the trend change, that comes the real trade challenge. Patience is important to be a successful trader.
For me, people who over trade cannot control their psychology and greed is still in their minds. Therefore, we also have to limit our thoughts so that we don't make mistakes. Usually people have experienced profits several times and continue to want to trade in one day, until the time ends up giving them a loss, because they don't want to lose and let it float, until finally they close with a big loss.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Dimitri94 on January 25, 2024, 05:15:29 AM

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.

I have noticed that over trading is the main characteristics of newbie traders and that is because of anxiety, greed, lack of self discipline. These factors will make such a trader to lose his emotion to control his trade. In fact, a new trader barely understand what is happening in the market and only what to chase every candlesticks like his mentor has mentioned candlesticks to him. Successful traders are those who have lost their money over the years and probably learn their mistake that they make and now get better with such experience. I believe a trader who is new and making profit is not yet successful until you have been experienced because at the time the profit is coming, it may be you are on the right trend but if the trend change, that comes the real trade challenge. Patience is important to be a successful trader.
For me, people who over trade cannot control their psychology and greed is still in their minds. Therefore, we also have to limit our thoughts so that we don't make mistakes. Usually people have experienced profits several times and continue to want to trade in one day, until the time ends up giving them a loss, because they don't want to lose and let it float, until finally they close with a big loss.
Yes, a trader is prone to losses when he is more greedy for profit. New traders often cannot control their emotions. Invest without understanding and open new trades when there is a loss thus they continue their investment as long as they have money. And those who profited, while hoping for more profit, suffered in the same way. Self-control is a key factor in trading. Over trading means guaranteed loss. A trader must take the right decision in this regard. A trader needs to acquire sufficient knowledge on how to control himself in an adverse situation.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 25, 2024, 09:23:01 AM

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.

I have noticed that over trading is the main characteristics of newbie traders and that is because of anxiety, greed, lack of self discipline. These factors will make such a trader to lose his emotion to control his trade. In fact, a new trader barely understand what is happening in the market and only what to chase every candlesticks like his mentor has mentioned candlesticks to him. Successful traders are those who have lost their money over the years and probably learn their mistake that they make and now get better with such experience. I believe a trader who is new and making profit is not yet successful until you have been experienced because at the time the profit is coming, it may be you are on the right trend but if the trend change, that comes the real trade challenge. Patience is important to be a successful trader.
For me, people who over trade cannot control their psychology and greed is still in their minds. Therefore, we also have to limit our thoughts so that we don't make mistakes. Usually people have experienced profits several times and continue to want to trade in one day, until the time ends up giving them a loss, because they don't want to lose and let it float, until finally they close with a big loss.
Yes, a trader is prone to losses when he is more greedy for profit. New traders often cannot control their emotions. Invest without understanding and open new trades when there is a loss thus they continue their investment as long as they have money.
Two things are mainly causing overtrading in the market and greed is just one of them, and aside from it, the revenge for the former losses is another reason. But neither of them is just not necessary if the trader is wise, they will only put the account of such trader in trouble. There is nothing as good as having a plan in trading and following it strictly, but such can only happen if the trader knows the evil in emotional trading and guards against it.

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And those who profited, while hoping for more profit, suffered in the same way. Self-control is a key factor in trading. Over trading means guaranteed loss. A trader must take the right decision in this regard. A trader needs to acquire sufficient knowledge on how to control himself in an adverse situation.
Overtrading is never good, it can make traders lose even though some can still be lucky to escape the losses if they strictly adhere to their trading system and plan, which includes proper money and risk management. But such traders must have a good trading system and plan for this to be possible. However, if more losses are being incurred, it can finally set the order out of balance to cause more losses. This is why it is even good to avoid overtrading entirely for the sake of good trading activities.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: God bless u on January 25, 2024, 05:47:03 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.

This means that by overtrading we should set a limit for ourselves that we have to earn how much in a day or a week or a month that is enough for us. We can bear the loss that we face, the chances of bearing the loss are high and if we didn't set a limit, for example, I want to earn 10 dollars a day, that's all. When my 10 is completed, I should exit the market immediately. And I should prepare myself for the next day target.

In this way our investment will be save and we will out of danger.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 25, 2024, 05:54:14 PM
Overtrading is a big NO in trading. As long as trading is done with an abuse and is not following already the perfect timing to trade, then trading will result into creating unbearable losses. Some may immediately leave the market for good due to consecutive losses that make them sucked their funds while others are brave enough to consistently face their struggles in trading and eventually learn from it.

Overtrading is never a good option. Instead learn to wait for the market to be favorable to trade  and trade only when the market is giving good signals to trade.
There is nothing bad when we over trade especially if we know how to trade and make more profits during the period of over trading.
I think some persons do it in a wrong way thinking they can be as experts as the pro traders making huge profits from the market.
We don't have to copy other people pattern of trading not to end up losing big especially if we have not mastered the art of trading very well. There is exceptions to everything we do and we should not be carried away by mere results we see other people having in trading.

This means that by overtrading we should set a limit for ourselves that we have to earn how much in a day or a week or a month that is enough for us. We can bear the loss that we face, the chances of bearing the loss are high and if we didn't set a limit, for example, I want to earn 10 dollars a day, that's all. When my 10 is completed, I should exit the market immediately. And I should prepare myself for the next day target.

In this way our investment will be save and we will out of danger.
Everything should really be having a limit on which it isnt really just that on trading but also in other things in life as well on which having that moderation or control would really be that always recommended if you dont really want for yourself on getting having those kind of negative effect into your lives on which it would really be just that normal that everything should be in control and good moderation.
We do know that everything which is too much would really be always that hard. This is why it would really be that best that you should really be that mindful on whatever actions that you are making.
Dont make yourself that making overtrading because once you do make yourself having that kind of situation on which its never been that recommendable.

Always set limits and always set those control because over trading is a sign of being that desperate on things on which it would really be that best that you should
really know on what you should gonna do.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: johnsaributua on January 25, 2024, 10:48:07 PM
That's right, that trading should be done with good planning and momentum, it's not valid if there is no confirmation on the candle even though flash dumps and pumps can happen, I think people are used to the limit order feature if trading on cex, at least detecting the trend like what you are talking about is a good preparation, Fomo is not good because it tends to rush if it takes the current market price.

As the exchange progresses there are more and more features that make it easier to trade.

We know that too much is not good, because too focused on monitoring prices will be saturated and assume price changes and encourage too fast open positions. Actually, if you can trade while leaving the house, it will make yourself fresh and know which point to take, indeed the probability of each person is different but trading with fun brings an aura of confidence in buying and selling crypto assets.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: blckhawk on January 26, 2024, 02:50:36 AM
You are only overtrading if you are using more than o your budget. Whether that is done with logic or not is a different question. Most of the times emotionally charged situations may commit a person to trade more than their budget illogically, this leads to more losses than wins. Hence they should take care to avoid such situations.

Keeping a trading limit can help here. But keeping the proper mindset should be emphasized on. Newbie traders are more susceptible to make this mistake than veteran ones.
Kind of like when you're gambling over the budget right? Always out of frustration because you want to make sure that you're going to get even and so you end up having to add in additional money to spend on trades in hopes that you can get it back with the money but end up losing more because as you've said that it's illogical and emotionally charged most of the time. I don't see a lot of newbies anymore that are making lots of mistakes anymore, I feel like a lot of people have already learned their lesson or that they're most likely trying their best to not set it up to just getting losses, and they all try their best to learn new things and avoid mistakes more than ever I think.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: bettercrypto on January 26, 2024, 04:56:36 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

That's right, we will only know that we are learning something if we see an improvement in profit that comes in because of the lessons we learn when we learn trading in this field.

I read something here on the forum that said that crypto trading is not difficult to learn; the only difficult thing is how to get profit from it. Because the learning we get from our studies is that sometimes we think the understanding is correct, we realize that in the end, the understanding that we have made or done in what we are studying is not correct. You know what it means, like performing technical and fundamental analysis, where there is a point in what he is saying.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Miles2006 on January 26, 2024, 01:46:47 PM
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit
I think this is the best part everyone should know first, there's no crypto trader that has never experience loss, there's a saying you loss first to win at last, this is just the reality and it's always best to learn from your previous mistakes before starting. Learning has no limit and mostly in the crypto world that has to do with volatility cause times will come when the price will fluctuate and the market most not always be in our favour but we should never try to outshine the market, this are the common things we should know before trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: cute nmp on January 26, 2024, 02:45:17 PM
Most Newbies are into trading cause of those internet influencers who's most of time trick people into thinking that trading is a get rich quick skill not actually telling them that it takes time ,knowledge and patience for one to become a profitable trader .Most of the youtubers and influencer's are just out there to sell people their courses or signals to make a living they themselves are not professional traders .Trading takes time ,Knowledge and the right strategy over trading does not help better to wait for the right setup even if it takes weeks to form than to enter a bad trade and lose money most mentors don't tell you that but that is the actual truth when it comes to trading .


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: God bless u on January 26, 2024, 05:59:08 PM
Most Newbies are into trading cause of those internet influencers who's most of time trick people into thinking that trading is a get rich quick skill not actually telling them that it takes time ,knowledge and patience for one to become a profitable trader .Most of the youtubers and influencer's are just out there to sell people their courses or signals to make a living they themselves are not professional traders .Trading takes time ,Knowledge and the right strategy over trading does not help better to wait for the right setup even if it takes weeks to form than to enter a bad trade and lose money most mentors don't tell you that but that is the actual truth when it comes to trading .

Trading can make you rich, but luckily, some people are so lucky that suddenly there is a cycle, they invest money in a coin. Overnight, the coin goes up.

The rest of trading is patience and along with patience you have to learn how to trade and the learner can learn from a good teacher.
Nowadays, fake people are also roaming around in the market so that we can trap someone and those who have their own investment spoil what they have, the truth is that for trading Before you should learn properly and after that you should eat what is the bridge of patience and after eating the bridge of patience you should sell in profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bushdark on January 26, 2024, 06:26:32 PM
Sometimes we gain more when we over trade. I don't know what op really means by over trading in his own terms. Over might not occur to over zealous traders that always want to be in the market looking at price charts and being ready to enter the market at anytime.
We need to be smart because not everything that would work for us. There are some traders that do not know what's over trading because they are always in the market ready to trade and make some profits for themselves. Sometimes loses might be the result but that doesn't change anything.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: JunkieMiner on January 26, 2024, 07:25:43 PM
Market is going always against me, I have recently selected a coin named Manta in the Binance and when I think for that coin to buy then the coin move forward nd also when I saw it after sometimes the coin jumps from its own position. Then I take a step backwards for waiting for its dip then against it moves forwards more. In this way, it is Nott the first time I have seen it 8 time approximately but it is still not working for me in the Binance for many days.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fatunad on January 26, 2024, 08:42:32 PM
Most Newbies are into trading cause of those internet influencers who's most of time trick people into thinking that trading is a get rich quick skill not actually telling them that it takes time ,knowledge and patience for one to become a profitable trader .Most of the youtubers and influencer's are just out there to sell people their courses or signals to make a living they themselves are not professional traders .Trading takes time ,Knowledge and the right strategy over trading does not help better to wait for the right setup even if it takes weeks to form than to enter a bad trade and lose money most mentors don't tell you that but that is the actual truth when it comes to trading .

Trading can make you rich, but luckily, some people are so lucky that suddenly there is a cycle, they invest money in a coin. Overnight, the coin goes up.

The rest of trading is patience and along with patience you have to learn how to trade and the learner can learn from a good teacher.
Nowadays, fake people are also roaming around in the market so that we can trap someone and those who have their own investment spoil what they have, the truth is that for trading Before you should learn properly and after that you should eat what is the bridge of patience and after eating the bridge of patience you should sell in profit.
Always set goals
Always set targets
Always set limits

If you are someone who are really that too impulsive when it comes to emotion just like on the time that you do gamble then
trading isnt something for you because you would really be just that putting up yourself on such potential danger or problem.
Overtrading is never been good and never been that ideal. Always be mindful on when to stop and when to call it a day.

Stressing yourself or being that too desperate for more income or profits will really be just leading into disaster if you wont really be that careful.
This is why it would really be that normal that you should really be that having those particular limits.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 26, 2024, 09:03:58 PM
Market is going always against me, I have recently selected a coin named Manta in the Binance and when I think for that coin to buy then the coin move forward nd also when I saw it after sometimes the coin jumps from its own position. Then I take a step backwards for waiting for its dip then against it moves forwards more. In this way, it is Nott the first time I have seen it 8 time approximately but it is still not working for me in the Binance for many days.
That's because that coin is still fresh and new to Binance. With that situation of the coin it's really gonna give you a quick movement and you either make it or break it from it. That is what usually gonna happen with coins newly listed on Binance and any other exchanges. They'll give you the excitement but you see to it that they're moving as quickly as they can while most of the traders are on them, trying to make quick gains. But if you stay for so long on it, you'll get stuck.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TimeTeller on January 26, 2024, 09:19:05 PM
Market is going always against me, I have recently selected a coin named Manta in the Binance and when I think for that coin to buy then the coin move forward nd also when I saw it after sometimes the coin jumps from its own position. Then I take a step backwards for waiting for its dip then against it moves forwards more. In this way, it is Nott the first time I have seen it 8 time approximately but it is still not working for me in the Binance for many days.
That's because that coin is still fresh and new to Binance. With that situation of the coin it's really gonna give you a quick movement and you either make it or break it from it. That is what usually gonna happen with coins newly listed on Binance and any other exchanges. They'll give you the excitement but you see to it that they're moving as quickly as they can while most of the traders are on them, trying to make quick gains. But if you stay for so long on it, you'll get stuck.

New coins is actually hard to determine their next movement, and so you are just speculating on this matter.
If you already invested on such project, what you can do is keep up with their updates, follow their social media channels as you can get some insights on where they are heading to.
Most of the time, they won't disclose their plans on their official website, but you can get some valuable inputs from their social media platforms.
The way they respond to their followers and how they give answers to some critical plans towards their project.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: freedomgo on January 26, 2024, 09:59:37 PM
There’s no guarantees that the more you trade, the more you will be in profits. Of course, trading should be made at the right timing, that is when the market is suitable to trade and when you are also in the best time to trade. Because there are actually traders who are only forced to trade because they are in need of profits, regardless of their current status quo. With that state, I don’t think trading will be more profitable thinking that you’re not at your best and you don’t have all out focus, and your patience is also compromised.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 26, 2024, 10:17:16 PM
That's because that coin is still fresh and new to Binance. With that situation of the coin it's really gonna give you a quick movement and you either make it or break it from it. That is what usually gonna happen with coins newly listed on Binance and any other exchanges. They'll give you the excitement but you see to it that they're moving as quickly as they can while most of the traders are on them, trying to make quick gains. But if you stay for so long on it, you'll get stuck.

New coins is actually hard to determine their next movement, and so you are just speculating on this matter.
If you already invested on such project, what you can do is keep up with their updates, follow their social media channels as you can get some insights on where they are heading to.
Most of the time, they won't disclose their plans on their official website, but you can get some valuable inputs from their social media platforms.
The way they respond to their followers and how they give answers to some critical plans towards their project.
That's true and it's basically a gamble to many of the traders but they know how to do it if they're freshly done and listed on Binance. So, count it like a few days of being listed and they'll be actively trading there. And once they're done, they'll never be back on it until the see some actions or news coming from its community. That's why they make easy money from it and if you're new to it, you're likely the one that will get slaughtered by these experienced traders.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on January 26, 2024, 11:21:02 PM
That's because that coin is still fresh and new to Binance. With that situation of the coin it's really gonna give you a quick movement and you either make it or break it from it. That is what usually gonna happen with coins newly listed on Binance and any other exchanges. They'll give you the excitement but you see to it that they're moving as quickly as they can while most of the traders are on them, trying to make quick gains. But if you stay for so long on it, you'll get stuck.

New coins is actually hard to determine their next movement, and so you are just speculating on this matter.
If you already invested on such project, what you can do is keep up with their updates, follow their social media channels as you can get some insights on where they are heading to.
Most of the time, they won't disclose their plans on their official website, but you can get some valuable inputs from their social media platforms.
The way they respond to their followers and how they give answers to some critical plans towards their project.
That's true and it's basically a gamble to many of the traders but they know how to do it if they're freshly done and listed on Binance. So, count it like a few days of being listed and they'll be actively trading there. And once they're done, they'll never be back on it until the see some actions or news coming from its community. That's why they make easy money from it and if you're new to it, you're likely the one that will get slaughtered by these experienced traders.

Indeed, if you are not careful following this kind of action you'll see yourself losing your money. There are many things that you need to consider following new projects that being listed to good exchange, things that will allow you predict and assess if it's still good to place position or your should need to forget about that project and look for other project to invest. Though sometimes taking that risk may give you decent profits just not to allow yourself doing and over trade or taking long engagement to a new project that can collapse any time, it's a big risk for your money, just do your DYOR and take time in each decision you need to take.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Lantind on January 27, 2024, 03:01:17 AM
There’s no guarantees that the more you trade, the more you will be in profits. Of course, trading should be made at the right timing, that is when the market is suitable to trade and when you are also in the best time to trade. Because there are actually traders who are only forced to trade because they are in need of profits, regardless of their current status quo. With that state, I don’t think trading will be more profitable thinking that you’re not at your best and you don’t have all out focus, and your patience is also compromised.
That's right, there is no guarantee that by trading a lot we will be able to make a profit from the trades we make. When trading, of course we have to set a strategy for when is the right time to trade and what type of coins we will trade to be able to make a profit from those trades.
If there are traders who are forced to trade and they succeed in making a profit, of course they really understand about trading and will be able to make a profit from the trade they make and if they trade in an open state in their best condition then it will be very difficult to be able to focus on the trade. they do and it would be better for them to perform in their best condition to be able to make a profit from the trades they make.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Pandu Geddon on January 27, 2024, 03:52:27 AM
That's right, there is no guarantee that by trading a lot we will be able to make a profit from the trades we make. When trading, of course we have to set a strategy for when is the right time to trade and what type of coins we will trade to be able to make a profit from those trades.
If there are traders who are forced to trade and they succeed in making a profit, of course they really understand about trading and will be able to make a profit from the trade they make and if they trade in an open state in their best condition then it will be very difficult to be able to focus on the trade. they do and it would be better for them to perform in their best condition to be able to make a profit from the trades they make.

Such situations often occur during bull market moments. many assets will experience a pump and this seems to make the analysis carried out by novice traders very accurate. Market support momentum is also important in trading. but if you just rely on that and get a profit, it looks like just luck.
it's quite difficult to teach trading to a beginner. that's not all the influencers say that trading is just buying and selling when profitable.
anyone who wants to trade, there is a lot to learn. so never be lazy to learn to trade. markets are always moving, and strategies may need to be continually developed.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: batang_bitcoin on January 27, 2024, 10:37:47 AM
Indeed, if you are not careful following this kind of action you'll see yourself losing your money. There are many things that you need to consider following new projects that being listed to good exchange, things that will allow you predict and assess if it's still good to place position or your should need to forget about that project and look for other project to invest. Though sometimes taking that risk may give you decent profits just not to allow yourself doing and over trade or taking long engagement to a new project that can collapse any time, it's a big risk for your money, just do your DYOR and take time in each decision you need to take.
Taking risk is like a double edge sword. It's either you win against the market or the market will win against you. If the approach is wrong, you'd definitely be disappointed with the result. And that's why you always need to test the waters so that you'll see if it's in your favor or not. If not, the wrong approach will teach you some lessons that you can apply when you're okay later. And if you don't, the cycle is there and you'll just repeat your mistake and you might over trade again and will absolutely lose the second time or more.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Zanab247 on January 27, 2024, 11:12:42 AM
Quote from: |MINER|
When the market is unstable, you should refrain from trading, even for a long time.  If you trade repeatedly, you will lose everything.  Trading should be done with knowledge of own skills and intelligence.  Trading cannot be blamed for losing everything through one's own fault. And trading and gambling are never the same.  Trading is done with skill and gambling depends on luck.
This is where some traders use to miss their opportunity in the market whenever they came across the market price is unstable and they will continue with their trading activities so that they will have some fake information to spread to other traders about their lost.

The moment you go after knowledge before going into crypto trading, you will surely know that trading your coins in the bull season will yield you a good results that will encourage you to continue doing the same thing that is giving you the reward.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Zigabel on January 27, 2024, 05:28:34 PM
Most trader expecially newbies think crypto is a get rich quick scheme, and they feel very excited and motivated to enter the market more believing that it's going to make them rich by over trading, they don't know that quality beats quantity every day.

They just can't wait for the market to come to them, they always chase the market and when they finally blown their account, they start saying trading is a scam or it's gambling, no bro, trading Is more about knowing the craft and be disciplined enough to wait till the market comes to you (your strength).
The most funny aspect is that they think that the more they trade, the more money they make. Trading is not like that, you calculate your loss first before your profit

Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Die to the things crypto trading influencers put out there on the social space, most persons think trading in the crypto space is an easy and fast way to getting rich within the shortest period of time but on the contrary when the get on the charts they see something really different from what they have been shown by the influencers they have watched all along on their various social platforms and end up thinking there's little with which you can achieve trading not knowing the have got issues with proper orientation and that has kept them handicapped such that they are unable to maximize the most they can get out of the crypto space since the most of the information made available to them borders more on trading alone.

Exploring other opportunities in the crypto space aside trading is very important as the profitablity therein have grater certainty than it is with trading but this idea isn't made available to newbies most of the times and it does affect how well they thrive in the crypto space.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Yamifoud on January 27, 2024, 09:22:44 PM

A successful doesn't just have a good market judgment but also has a good healthy practice. And over-trading is not a practice by them, it is just for those who are chasing their losses thinking that it could help to recover but not knowing this could also be the reason for incurring more losses.

I have noticed that over trading is the main characteristics of newbie traders and that is because of anxiety, greed, lack of self discipline. These factors will make such a trader to lose his emotion to control his trade. In fact, a new trader barely understand what is happening in the market and only what to chase every candlesticks like his mentor has mentioned candlesticks to him. Successful traders are those who have lost their money over the years and probably learn their mistake that they make and now get better with such experience. I believe a trader who is new and making profit is not yet successful until you have been experienced because at the time the profit is coming, it may be you are on the right trend but if the trend change, that comes the real trade challenge. Patience is important to be a successful trader.
It means that we have to experience losses and mistakes first before becoming a successful trader. And it tells us that those who can't bear to accept struggles and market difficulties, can never reach their goal, they just give up and blame the market. That is why we could say that winning life in trading is too difficult because even though trading tools are given already but still we are not able to make it right, things are too hard in a volatile market. If we don't have the passion to do this, we never stay long.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sophokles on January 27, 2024, 10:32:17 PM
Indeed, if you are not careful following this kind of action you'll see yourself losing your money. There are many things that you need to consider following new projects that being listed to good exchange, things that will allow you predict and assess if it's still good to place position or your should need to forget about that project and look for other project to invest. Though sometimes taking that risk may give you decent profits just not to allow yourself doing and over trade or taking long engagement to a new project that can collapse any time, it's a big risk for your money, just do your DYOR and take time in each decision you need to take.
Taking risk is like a double edge sword. It's either you win against the market or the market will win against you. If the approach is wrong, you'd definitely be disappointed with the result. And that's why you always need to test the waters so that you'll see if it's in your favor or not. If not, the wrong approach will teach you some lessons that you can apply when you're okay later. And if you don't, the cycle is there and you'll just repeat your mistake and you might over trade again and will absolutely lose the second time or more.

A mistake is part of the learning process and to amplify the result by using your mistake is to learn from it. You can get insight into something by listing it to others, but it won't give you the real weight or impact of that mistake if you don't experience it yourself. What most trader lack is discipline and what they do is FOMO. If you have a strategy, follow it no matter what the market condition is and don't take any deceit in a rush. Take your time to think about all the possible negative outcomes of your trade then take action.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: stadus on January 27, 2024, 11:39:11 PM
While losses in trading becomes more possible when there is greed, but trading without learning and understanding the basics as well will also contribute to more possible losses and failures. So most likely, if you rush to trade because you believe that will be bigger profits if you keep on trading, well that's obviously a wrong mindset. You could have lose all your capital and see yourself homeless if you continue doing trading because of that mindset.

Know that there is always the right time to trade by not resorting into overtrading. Trade only when the market is viable to provide you profits, and avoid trading if you see the market is obviously not in a good position to trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Kelward on January 28, 2024, 09:44:50 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

Many people want to a shortcut to wealth and they keep looking for get rich quick schemes, they go to social media and they hear a lot of feel good stories about how you can sit in the comfort of your home and be making a lot of money, these YouTubers and social media motivational speakers tells them that crypto trading is the answer. Many newbies enters crypto trading without aquiring the basic knowledge about fundamentals and technical analysis, they trade believing that putting in extra time will increase their chances of profit, and after encountering back to back loses, they'll either tag crypto trading a scam or do the right thing by learning how trading actually works.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Volimack on January 28, 2024, 10:51:30 AM
The biggest point here is that trading has nothing to do with losses. The more intelligent you chat the more profits you will make and the more your losses will increase. As your losses increase so will your profits. It is not correct that you only lose they lose profit later and in the case of trading, people choose it as a professional because the amount of profit is more than the loss. I think you need a little more knowledge about trading or you have some wrong concepts that are causing you to say this. But if you say that due to changes in the market the loss is high when testing then that is a different matter. When it comes to trading the greedy is more than the loser.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: MFahad on January 28, 2024, 11:14:43 AM
Sometimes we gain more when we over trade. I don't know what op really means by over trading in his own terms.
By over trading, he obviously means trading too much in short time. you are right that sometime we gain more by over trading. but not always. and I think loosing chances are more than gaining in over trading.
that's why it is always best to trade reasonably and carefully.
The reason people over trade is greediness. i don't see any other reason of doing over trading. because if you are a pro trader you don't have to over trade. all you need to do is maintain your trading momentum, managed your funds, diversify as much as you can, and keep patience,


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 03, 2024, 10:15:18 AM
The biggest point here is that trading has nothing to do with losses.
The more you trade the more your chance of loss and profit. Dont see how your statement makes sense.

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The more intelligent you chat the more profits you will make and the more your losses will increase.
How does chatting have to do anything with trading? In fact those who talk more always make more mistakes.

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But if you say that due to changes in the market the loss is high when testing then that is a different matter. When it comes to trading the greedy is more than the loser.
The greedy one will lose more than the humble one but profits and losses are not exclusive to one another. Today you might buy at the low and if you are patient enough to hold through you will be selling at the high making you a overall profit. Continue this over a few months and you should be in a net profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Ricardo11 on February 05, 2024, 02:38:37 PM
Of course, we should trade only when the market is in our favor. Because if the market goes against us, we will lose all our money. We should always trade after researching the market well. Trading should be done only when it is favorable. Wait for the market to come in our favor, don't be in any kind of hurry, because one little mistake can lose you all. So always trade at the right time, research the market well, think carefully.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: icebar on February 06, 2024, 01:31:54 PM
Over trading is not profitable for newbies or seniors as it usually results in losses for most traders. there will be times when investing in the market has a high chance of losing money, which you need to manage depending on the market dynamics. to become a skilled trader you must acquire trading skills. successful market investing demands both strategy and talent, so if you don't think you know anything about trading, you should avoid trading.  Investing without this understanding of your trade increases your chances of losing money. If you are uncertain about when to trade and when to wait patiently, it is best to avoid using trading platforms.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on February 07, 2024, 01:09:05 PM
Of course, we should trade only when the market is in our favor. Because if the market goes against us, we will lose all our money. We should always trade after researching the market well. Trading should be done only when it is favorable. Wait for the market to come in our favor, don't be in any kind of hurry, because one little mistake can lose you all. So always trade at the right time, research the market well, think carefully.

Nothing to rush as the market always have it's own time, if you look for the betterment of your trade patience is the key, taking more trade without understanding the possible movement will cause you to lose your investment, there are traders who loves to short the market those are traders who wisely use the momentum, like what you said it's more on how you see the favorable position for your trade and chances to earn will be at your side.

Without understanding the makret run, you'll keep losing or chances to lose your money when taking more trades is possible, while taking one step at a time may give you higher chance to keep your profits.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Vaculin on February 07, 2024, 02:22:54 PM
We lose more if we lose control of our trade. It is for the newbies to think that trading success never happens just one day, so we don't need to stay on the computer all day and continue trading. But this is not just time management, we also consider proper funds management where we use to spend our money and trade using potential coins, not these shitcoins. Being guided by what we have to do will save us from major losses and failures. We make a habit of being more careful and think twice before taking action especially when we are still learning as it is not necessarily we have to commit mistakes before we learn.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 07, 2024, 04:59:22 PM
We lose more if we lose control of our trade. It is for the newbies to think that trading success never happens just one day, so we don't need to stay on the computer all day and continue trading. But this is not just time management, we also consider proper funds management where we use to spend our money and trade using potential coins, not these shitcoins. Being guided by what we have to do will save us from major losses and failures. We make a habit of being more careful and think twice before taking action especially when we are still learning as it is not necessarily we have to commit mistakes before we learn.
We do know that once we are still that a noob then we wont really be needing to waste up too much time but rather we would really be focusing more on making money and profits on which we do able to forget even with those basic steps that needs to be followed. Overtrade is caused neither by having those winning and profitable trading which ends up on having that greed correlated or it would be something that tending to
have those kind of trying out to recover their losing trades via trading more on which we know that it would really be that similar to gambling on this kind of set up on which it is really just that common approach for those people who dont have to be able to experience the worst of trading risks too.

Its always been ideal that you shouldnt really be making those overtrades which do comes up with those kind of emotions on which we do know that it could really be putting up some
effects into your overall trade because once you do find yourself that desperate then you are really that prone into more losses as you cant really be able to think up
well because of having those kind of wrong assumptions towards it.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Tomcolor on February 07, 2024, 06:03:40 PM
Not just trading most of the time new crypto users rush into trading or investing as they change their money and become suddenly rich. In fact, loss is when an addict makes you drunk with the addiction of getting rich. I took a lot of losses from trading in the beginning but I gained a lot from investing. I would never rush into the crypto market so the calmer your mind is the sooner you will turn to profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bitcoin_people on February 08, 2024, 02:49:09 AM
New users who plan like this definitely lose more in trading. You should never expect to get rich by trading as it can backfire at any time. Every day when you train you must take risks and when you take risks you must lose and be emotional. Although experienced traders lose less but new traders lose more money it is only due to their experience and understanding. Your money is at risk when you invest in a sheet coin in trading, and most new traders think that trading such coins is a quick way to get rich. So those new traders better avoid such schemes and should never take such risk but when an experienced trader he can surely make good profit.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Dr.Osh on February 08, 2024, 09:52:40 AM
New users who plan like this definitely lose more in trading. You should never expect to get rich by trading as it can backfire at any time. Every day when you train you must take risks and when you take risks you must lose and be emotional. Although experienced traders lose less but new traders lose more money it is only due to their experience and understanding. Your money is at risk when you invest in a sheet coin in trading, and most new traders think that trading such coins is a quick way to get rich. So those new traders better avoid such schemes and should never take such risk but when an experienced trader he can surely make good profit.
Sometimes they are too excited to hear stories about people who are successful in trading, but they don't know about the traders' struggles to reach that point. So, they think that trading is easy, and they can quickly get rich. However, the fact is that this is a very difficult thing. Even people who have been trading for a long time can make mistakes and suffer losses. It's just that, they won't understand until they enter the world of trading. Because of this, many people give advice to use a small amount of money for the first time when trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Lanatsa on February 08, 2024, 01:45:27 PM
New users who plan like this definitely lose more in trading. You should never expect to get rich by trading as it can backfire at any time. Every day when you train you must take risks and when you take risks you must lose and be emotional. Although experienced traders lose less but new traders lose more money it is only due to their experience and understanding. Your money is at risk when you invest in a sheet coin in trading, and most new traders think that trading such coins is a quick way to get rich. So those new traders better avoid such schemes and should never take such risk but when an experienced trader he can surely make good profit.
Sometimes they are too excited to hear stories about people who are successful in trading, but they don't know about the traders' struggles to reach that point. So, they think that trading is easy, and they can quickly get rich. However, the fact is that this is a very difficult thing. Even people who have been trading for a long time can make mistakes and suffer losses. It's just that, they won't understand until they enter the world of trading. Because of this, many people give advice to use a small amount of money for the first time when trading.
Just like on gambling too on which winning trades are the only ones that would surfaced out into public on which into those newbie trades or amateurs out there will really be able to read up those experiences
on which this would really be acting some kind of boost up. Its not bad on making it as an inspiration but in the sense that you are already that exaggerating those kind of approach then this is something
that would really be ending up on a disaster. This is why it would really be that better that you should really be knowing on how to do things works and how it do behaves.

When you do make trades, then always set those buy and sell limits on a particular preference so that whenever those orders hit or filled up then it would
be that an advantage for you. Rinse and repeat. Sounds easy? No its never been that easy and this is something a specific skill that you would really be
needing to do with.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on February 10, 2024, 03:51:37 AM
New users who plan like this definitely lose more in trading. You should never expect to get rich by trading as it can backfire at any time. Every day when you train you must take risks and when you take risks you must lose and be emotional. Although experienced traders lose less but new traders lose more money it is only due to their experience and understanding. Your money is at risk when you invest in a sheet coin in trading, and most new traders think that trading such coins is a quick way to get rich. So those new traders better avoid such schemes and should never take such risk but when an experienced trader he can surely make good profit.
Sometimes they are too excited to hear stories about people who are successful in trading, but they don't know about the traders' struggles to reach that point. So, they think that trading is easy, and they can quickly get rich. However, the fact is that this is a very difficult thing. Even people who have been trading for a long time can make mistakes and suffer losses. It's just that, they won't understand until they enter the world of trading. Because of this, many people give advice to use a small amount of money for the first time when trading.
Just like on gambling too on which winning trades are the only ones that would surfaced out into public on which into those newbie trades or amateurs out there will really be able to read up those experiences
on which this would really be acting some kind of boost up. Its not bad on making it as an inspiration but in the sense that you are already that exaggerating those kind of approach then this is something
that would really be ending up on a disaster. This is why it would really be that better that you should really be knowing on how to do things works and how it do behaves.

When you do make trades, then always set those buy and sell limits on a particular preference so that whenever those orders hit or filled up then it would
be that an advantage for you. Rinse and repeat. Sounds easy? No its never been that easy and this is something a specific skill that you would really be
needing to do with.

Sounds easy? That's how influencer allure those readers and viewers as they will show you their success but you won't see most of them to share their failures, only those serious speakers who really cares about those people who are following them, but for those who are just aiming for money they will keep pushing you to use their referrals and start your journey even you don't have the knowledge and not yet been equipt to start your venture to this business.

Moving back to the topic, overtrade most of the time happened because of emotions, you either experienced losses or might be a win that you want to repeat but chances to failed if you didn't put your limitation and your proper settings may take place.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Renampun on February 10, 2024, 11:32:15 PM
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Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

Trading requires a strategy and the right strategy will definitely appear at the right time. See what ultimately happens to those who don't have a good strategy in trading, they are just wasting their time, that's why it's important to master the fundamentals, the goal is to know for sure market movements and also market certainty, so that the decisions you make can be focused and right on target.
If you are currently focused on trading on a big exchange like Binance then take advantage of the tools they provide, also try using a demo account at the start, you will know how important it is, you have to focus on your trading, use the right strategy for you.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: mirakal on February 10, 2024, 11:53:29 PM
Of course, we should trade only when the market is in our favor. Because if the market goes against us, we will lose all our money. We should always trade after researching the market well. Trading should be done only when it is favorable. Wait for the market to come in our favor, don't be in any kind of hurry, because one little mistake can lose you all. So always trade at the right time, research the market well, think carefully.

Nothing to rush as the market always have it's own time, if you look for the betterment of your trade patience is the key, taking more trade without understanding the possible movement will cause you to lose your investment, there are traders who loves to short the market those are traders who wisely use the momentum, like what you said it's more on how you see the favorable position for your trade and chances to earn will be at your side.

Without understanding the makret run, you'll keep losing or chances to lose your money when taking more trades is possible, while taking one step at a time may give you higher chance to keep your profits.
A good trader will make sure to analyze and understand the market well before he decides to risk his funds and trade. Otherwise, his trading will fall like gambling. One who trades without analyzing if there is probability to be in profits is not actually trading but more like gambling, so that means risking his funds just to see it losing in the end.

So I totally agree there’s nothing to rush when trading funds are at stake. Trade only when the market is favorable to you, and trade only when you are certain that the market price movement will not go on opposite direction, because if ever that happens, you just missed another opportunity to make profits in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Ziskinberg on February 10, 2024, 11:59:51 PM
Exactly. Trading most often even if the market does not favor your trades won’t guarantee for your profitability but it may mean the other way around, losing more and making you more frustrated. Just do trading one at a time, don’t be obsessed on profits because that will only lost your focus and attention from your trades.

Not all those who lose in trading are not skillful in trading, but because their greed is high and that their emotions become uncontrollable anymore that resort into wrong decision making.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: rojan on February 11, 2024, 02:47:42 AM
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Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.

Trading requires a strategy and the right strategy will definitely appear at the right time. See what ultimately happens to those who don't have a good strategy in trading, they are just wasting their time, that's why it's important to master the fundamentals, the goal is to know for sure market movements and also market certainty, so that the decisions you make can be focused and right on target.
If you are currently focused on trading on a big exchange like Binance then take advantage of the tools they provide, also try using a demo account at the start, you will know how important it is, you have to focus on your trading, use the right strategy for you.
It is very important to use a demo account for those who want to learn trading in a new situation. By using a demo account, you can learn the trade well, it will have a good idea about trading and there will be less risk of losing money if you start trading without knowing about the trade, there will be more chances of losing money.  In order not to get into trouble, we need to learn to trade using a demo account. Trading requires experience. Without experience, trading can never be profitable, so we need to know about trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bravut on February 13, 2024, 06:54:58 PM
You're making a very sensitive point,this topic cut across all traders.Most newbies don't have any idea about facts in trade aside TA..
But you don't lose more when you over trade,if your set-up shows on the chart and your confluences align,I just believe you keep it simple and know,when,how you make your trades
Rather than jumping on trades  that doesn't meet any of your(if at all) approach especially newbies and some traders.But have seen newbies that know what they are doing.Some mentorship programmes are doing great Jobs in bringing up vibrant traders that are built on a solid foundation.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on February 13, 2024, 08:12:59 PM
Of course, we should trade only when the market is in our favor. Because if the market goes against us, we will lose all our money. We should always trade after researching the market well. Trading should be done only when it is favorable. Wait for the market to come in our favor, don't be in any kind of hurry, because one little mistake can lose you all. So always trade at the right time, research the market well, think carefully.

Nothing to rush as the market always have it's own time, if you look for the betterment of your trade patience is the key, taking more trade without understanding the possible movement will cause you to lose your investment, there are traders who loves to short the market those are traders who wisely use the momentum, like what you said it's more on how you see the favorable position for your trade and chances to earn will be at your side.

Without understanding the makret run, you'll keep losing or chances to lose your money when taking more trades is possible, while taking one step at a time may give you higher chance to keep your profits.
A good trader will make sure to analyze and understand the market well before he decides to risk his funds and trade. Otherwise, his trading will fall like gambling. One who trades without analyzing if there is probability to be in profits is not actually trading but more like gambling, so that means risking his funds just to see it losing in the end.

So I totally agree there’s nothing to rush when trading funds are at stake. Trade only when the market is favorable to you, and trade only when you are certain that the market price movement will not go on opposite direction, because if ever that happens, you just missed another opportunity to make profits in trading.

Correct,  trade when you the big potential and not just blindly take your position without doing the proper assessment of the market,  a good trader always have that allocated time to review and analyze what might be the possibility,  though sometimes emotions can place us in a difficult situation where it rushing us to out our position thinking that the market will be favorable to what we think can the next market run.

At the beginning,  the lesser the better  as you can practice the strategy with much deeper knowledge to acquire,  you can adjust once you already master your created patterns and strategies.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: terrific on February 13, 2024, 09:52:06 PM
At the beginning,  the lesser the better  as you can practice the strategy with much deeper knowledge to acquire,  you can adjust once you already master your created patterns and strategies.
Yeah, adjustments do come when you've already made yourself master with any strategy. But you can always adjust also when you're trying.
Find what suits you best as you trade because every strategy that you know has its own pros and cons and whatever is working for you.
So, to find and adjust with any strategy that you've come up with and together with how you practice your money management will help you a lot.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: tbterryboy on February 14, 2024, 12:54:54 AM
We lose more if we lose control of our trade. It is for the newbies to think that trading success never happens just one day, so we don't need to stay on the computer all day and continue trading. But this is not just time management, we also consider proper funds management where we use to spend our money and trade using potential coins, not these shitcoins. Being guided by what we have to do will save us from major losses and failures. We make a habit of being more careful and think twice before taking action especially when we are still learning as it is not necessarily we have to commit mistakes before we learn.
Fund management could be as or even more important as time management. Too many people spread their money around like it's nothing, you should instead focus on rare but solid trades and that would make you money. There are way too many people who are taking way too much risk with stuff just to spread their horizon, and that is not the best way to trade.

Someone who trades with 40 pairs doesn't really guarantee more success over someone who trades only 3 pairs, it's more about finding the right one. I think people are putting too much emphasis on silly stuff and forget that they should do something that will benefit them while also making them feel comfortable, if you are dealing with more than you can, that would not be easy at all.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: milewilda on February 14, 2024, 02:05:55 AM
We lose more if we lose control of our trade. It is for the newbies to think that trading success never happens just one day, so we don't need to stay on the computer all day and continue trading. But this is not just time management, we also consider proper funds management where we use to spend our money and trade using potential coins, not these shitcoins. Being guided by what we have to do will save us from major losses and failures. We make a habit of being more careful and think twice before taking action especially when we are still learning as it is not necessarily we have to commit mistakes before we learn.
Fund management could be as or even more important as time management. Too many people spread their money around like it's nothing, you should instead focus on rare but solid trades and that would make you money. There are way too many people who are taking way too much risk with stuff just to spread their horizon, and that is not the best way to trade.

Someone who trades with 40 pairs doesn't really guarantee more success over someone who trades only 3 pairs, it's more about finding the right one. I think people are putting too much emphasis on silly stuff and forget that they should do something that will benefit them while also making them feel comfortable, if you are dealing with more than you can, that would not be easy at all.
Both factors are crucial and this is something that should really be in balance because if you dont, for example you are focusing that much on time management but you do lack that fund management then it would really be still considered to have those loses on which this is something that would really be just that normal. It is really just that you would really be needing both things for you to have that balance in between time and fund
management + having that emotion control on which these things might sound basic but these are the standard thing on which you should really be having on the time that you would really be dealing up with trading.

Dont overtrade and dont make yourself that being too greedy with those missing trades that you might be able to skip out. Come to think that this market does have that unlimited opportunity
for you to make money but of course this is something that wont really be possible in each in everyone. This is why there are people who are really there are people who are really that
too desperate on trying out to deal up with things.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 26, 2024, 01:37:06 PM
Someone who trades with 40 pairs doesn't really guarantee more success over someone who trades only 3 pairs, it's more about finding the right one. I think people are putting too much emphasis on silly stuff and forget that they should do something that will benefit them while also making them feel comfortable, if you are dealing with more than you can, that would not be easy at all.
Keeping the portfolio small has its advantage and in crypto this is even more applicable. Because the only few coins worth investing for the long term are bitcoin and a few of the altcoins, this is apt.

However going in more shitcoins as they come out of their shit-projects, people will be trading them day and night and only hurt their own health in the long run without any significant profits.

Therefore trade in limits and dont trade just because you have nothing to do with your coins. Have a goal and trade accordingly.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on February 26, 2024, 02:04:05 PM
At the beginning,  the lesser the better  as you can practice the strategy with much deeper knowledge to acquire,  you can adjust once you already master your created patterns and strategies.
Yeah, adjustments do come when you've already made yourself master with any strategy. But you can always adjust also when you're trying.
Find what suits you best as you trade because every strategy that you know has its own pros and cons and whatever is working for you.
So, to find and adjust with any strategy that you've come up with and together with how you practice your money management will help you a lot.

I get that point and it's true, there are adjustments that can be done while finding what is fit for your kind of trading,  if those adjustments made you mistake or let you failed you should take the learning process and try to keep adjusting till you achieved your goals, its not an easy process as you need to assess both the pro and cons and make that changes for the betterment of your journey.

As the topic said, it's better to have lesser positions and learn more about your strategy,  compared to put a lot and do like gambling which you are just hoping for luck to back you up, not like a go with a flow trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: GigaBit on February 26, 2024, 02:06:49 PM
Exactly. Trading most often even if the market does not favor your trades won’t guarantee for your profitability but it may mean the other way around, losing more and making you more frustrated. Just do trading one at a time, don’t be obsessed on profits because that will only lost your focus and attention from your trades.

Not all those who lose in trading are not skillful in trading, but because their greed is high and that their emotions become uncontrollable anymore that resort into wrong decision making.
There are often some mistakes that are made by investors in trading due to which an investor ends up losing rather than making profit. A trader must be aware of a few things especially those who over trade. There are traders who are overly greedy and try to make a profit from every trade. They even use more money to increase their profit margin. Due to over trading they are exposed to rather big losses.

A trader should remember that the market is not always favorable to him. He must have a good understanding of the market while taking new trades. There are some traders who trade before doing any kind of analysis and even after losing in that trade, they do not stop it, because of emotion, so the level of loss increases a lot. A trader should not be emotional but should trade after researching the market carefully.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: leonair on February 26, 2024, 06:57:08 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
Is it easy to take 10 successful trades every day?  It is not easy at all.  For this you must be quite expert in the field of trading.  Trading brings different results for each person and it depends on how expert one is.  Now if someone is not a good expert in trading then if he trades excessively the amount of loss will be very high for him.  But if one is an expert in trading and has very good knowledge about the market then he can make good profit from trading even if he trades excessively.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sorryfor on February 28, 2024, 07:10:36 AM
I can't agree with the fact that people who are new to cryptocurrency trade first and then get hurt and blame it. Nowadays people are quite cautious especially if it is an economic matter. Since trading costs money, most traders must first do a fair amount of research on the coins and knowledge of the markets. But still there is a possibility of loss by trading. Because it is difficult for anyone to be completely accurate about what is going to happen in the future through trading. But still it is possible to profit by trading with small funds. Maybe you got hurt in the first case as a newbie or whatever.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Strongkored on February 28, 2024, 10:47:02 AM
Exactly. Trading most often even if the market does not favor your trades won’t guarantee for your profitability but it may mean the other way around, losing more and making you more frustrated. Just do trading one at a time, don’t be obsessed on profits because that will only lost your focus and attention from your trades.

Not all those who lose in trading are not skillful in trading, but because their greed is high and that their emotions become uncontrollable anymore that resort into wrong decision making.
Traders will always see opportunities in all circumstances, which is why the market continues to run even though we read bad news about crypto which will possibly make market movements quite wild because the direction is unpredictable.
You may remember that in the case of FTX or UST, the market continued to run and there were still traders who remained in this market because they saw the opportunity for a bounce even though it was just speculation and would lead traders to losses because the market was unpredictable.
In my opinion there is no such thing as too much trading there is only a trader who uses money he can't afford to lose so it gets frustrating when he loses, and only trade because of speculation so it looks like gambling.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: bettercrypto on March 01, 2024, 10:26:42 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

What you mention and say is easy to say but hard to do if we know ourselves that our knowledge of trading is not that good. Trading really requires time and effort, which is why we need to absorb what we learn here.

Also, trading does not require you to spend a lot of time just to monitor it, although I am not saying that it is a bad way. That is not what it means to say; instead, we really need to devote proper study and investigation to it.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: adpinbr on March 02, 2024, 03:35:23 AM
The kind of people that usually makes the trading mistake is the new traders that just came in into the ward of Trading, if you come across such people, don’t hesitate to guide them and try to let them know the step to take if you have some experience you teach them Tell them to calm down guide them on how to take risk, at least we will have a few basic knowledge that will also enable them have the basics knowledge. trading is risk definitely because you may lose more than what you think that is why it is always advisable for a beginner trader to start trading with what you can afford to lose. It is always good to grow your money from scratch to the top, but most people actually want to get rich quick so they may decide to put in big money into trading may actually be there only money or money that is really important, if they have some losses during the process, the call Trading a very big risk , or they may not even have interest on going to Trading, because of what they have lost, and they will speak bad against Trading, and discourage some other beginners based on their experience, which is their mistakes, if you come across such person or you need to do is to let them know the basics try to calm them down not to take a very big ricks. Trading is always a calculated Tricks. Yes, it is a ricks, but it has to be calculated very well for you to succeed.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: shinratensei_ on March 02, 2024, 03:42:39 AM
Exactly. Trading most often even if the market does not favor your trades won’t guarantee for your profitability but it may mean the other way around, losing more and making you more frustrated. Just do trading one at a time, don’t be obsessed on profits because that will only lost your focus and attention from your trades.

Not all those who lose in trading are not skillful in trading, but because their greed is high and that their emotions become uncontrollable anymore that resort into wrong decision making.
well in my opinion losing to our emotion which means doing some fomo thing when we are greedy or at the very least feeling greedy and this change the decision in our trades only means that such person isn't realy skilled.
emotion is really what holding most of people from making profit, in fact many are refraining from investing when the prices were low because they afraid, even though logically thinking since we've hit the very bottom the only way is to go back up but people thinking that bitcoin doomed few years ago and decide to refrain from investing or at least trading it meanwhile thats not true at all.
thats how emotion really affect us in making decision.

consequently any trades made with emotion influencing it will definitely end up bad even if there's some that doesn't end up bad but they are all because luck and we don't have the day in caleneder where we can figure out at what time we gonna be unlucky it only take one loss trade with high leverage to turn around our financial condition from normal to bankruptcy with these unwise trading decision.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Tigerheart3026 on March 02, 2024, 06:13:05 AM
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.
correct, i am not well experienced in the crypto trading market but i understood some factors as you said that without strong knowledge trading is huge risky and must be money will be lose at the end of day, lack of skill there are no way to make profits and survive here. and patience is playing a big role to make a successful trade.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Bushdark on March 02, 2024, 07:21:03 AM
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.
correct, i am not well experienced in the crypto trading market but i understood some factors as you said that without strong knowledge trading is huge risky and must be money will be lose at the end of day, lack of skill there are no way to make profits and survive here. and patience is playing a big role to make a successful trade.
This is the time crypto trading is becoming easier because the market keeps gaining liquidity and the market is becoming volatile that what we expected. This the bull market we had been waiting for and it is cool that many traders are going to make money if they are not against the trend. We need to keep trading according to the trend because that is one of the ways we can keep making money from the market as traders. We need to be prepared to earn more from the market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Smartvirus on March 02, 2024, 08:27:19 PM
Me I dont trade if the market doesn't come to me, if I don't sees the right setup I don't trade at all, even if it takes a month without trading, it's better for me to wait and be profitable than to lose my capital, stay discipline and be profitable.
Some traders especially those who are new into trading would like to believe that, having more frequent and regular trades increases your chance of profit. Well the truth is, it might be the case for a very experienced few but for majority, the case would be very different towards the negative. Being in the market too often is an adrenaline drive that brings you more closer to letting emotions come into your game.
It messes up your trading plan as you’re likely going to find yourself not making proper analysis and often jumping into conclusion without a thorough view of what is in front of you.
You wouldn’t escape what that patience would have let slide by you, you just end up taking wrong trades and having your SL kicked every time.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on March 02, 2024, 11:46:29 PM
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.
correct, i am not well experienced in the crypto trading market but i understood some factors as you said that without strong knowledge trading is huge risky and must be money will be lose at the end of day, lack of skill there are no way to make profits and survive here. and patience is playing a big role to make a successful trade.
This is the time crypto trading is becoming easier because the market keeps gaining liquidity and the market is becoming volatile that what we expected. This the bull market we had been waiting for and it is cool that many traders are going to make money if they are not against the trend. We need to keep trading according to the trend because that is one of the ways we can keep making money from the market as traders. We need to be prepared to earn more from the market.

We need to learn how to anticipate but as the title of this post, you'll lose more when you over trade meaning that if you don't plan properly and you just been move by your emotions, the chance that you can lose your position is possible, you need to work with your knowledge and keep adding more idea on how to anticipate the possible market run, with that knowledge, you can continue placing your position with a good confidence that the market may favor you.

And with that kind of patience, you can hold if you see that the market is not moveing according to your plan, just patiently waiting and try to stay calm if ever that the market is not being good to you.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: poodle63 on March 03, 2024, 12:50:36 AM
correct, i am not well experienced in the crypto trading market but i understood some factors as you said that without strong knowledge trading is huge risky and must be money will be lose at the end of day, lack of skill there are no way to make profits and survive here. and patience is playing a big role to make a successful trade.
its more of combined knowledge and skills usually what determine a "skill" in trading anyway, if its cool headed decision making im sure its not skill but due to experience, they already used to making decision in trading and not get distracted easily.
the thing is that trading is usually knowledge and luck, sometime we can be following the most basic principle of trading that is buy very low sell at high we might be buying at the lowest point there is and suddenly bad news about the project drops such as law suit well too bad the bottom that we thought already the lowest point ever for certain coin turns out there are more dumping due to the bad news.
thats what im talking about many factors that could influence the market such as bad news and many more and such thing can't be controlled it depends on our luck.
people that are unlucky enough to have invested in luna back then doesn't even have idea their coin could drop that low.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Sebas.tian on March 03, 2024, 09:42:21 AM
Quote from: Altryist
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.

Those that have potential skills towards crypto trading are the ones making huge amount of income on the time from the market, because they know when to trade to bring out income that will motivate them to continue use the same tactics that is bringing the income. But when you lack the knowledge of cryptocurrency trading, it will be very difficult for you to experience winning in your trading because there are some things that will not make you to get it right which are lacked of potential knowledge to hold up to in the market. If you are not good in long term trading, you can make use of short term trading and it can help you to make income that will make you feel good.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on March 03, 2024, 11:12:22 AM
Trading is not about trade more and win more but those who are expert if trade more then they win more but people with less knowledge when enter into the trading so the more they trade more they will loss money.

It is necessary that if you are lossing regularly due to lack of knowledge and don't know about trading skills then stop trading until you identify the trading strategies and know how to get profit from trading.
 
For trading you will learn well and little knowledge will not help you to earn more even as a trader there will be certain things that you will experience for the first time so learning does not stops after entering into the trading market.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Vinaa77 on March 07, 2024, 04:01:31 AM
Trading is not about trade more and win more but those who are expert if trade more then they win more but people with less knowledge when enter into the trading so the more they trade more they will loss money.

It is necessary that if you are lossing regularly due to lack of knowledge and don't know about trading skills then stop trading until you identify the trading strategies and know how to get profit from trading.
 
For trading you will learn well and little knowledge will not help you to earn more even as a trader there will be certain things that you will experience for the first time so learning does not stops after entering into the trading market.
Those who have little knowledge about trading will certainly experience losses on the trades they make and will drain your savings if they continue to trade and it would be better to learn about trading first so that we can reduce the risk of losses on the trades we make after we learn. then we can try trading again and start with an amount that we can afford.

Yes, you are right that having a little knowledge about trading will make us unable to make a profit from trading and we have to keep learning about trading even though we can trade well, because many of those who already have good experience and knowledge are still learning about trading in order to can avoid losses in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: adpinbr on March 08, 2024, 07:26:42 PM
I got a complaint today from one of my old friend he was just telling me about how he is upset consigning bull run because he is not participating on it. He planned a lot about this bull run that he is going to make much profit from his coin after set and done I advise him that OK you have to hold and wait for the bull run  time which is not too far from now he couldn’t listen and he continue making day to day Trading over trade every single day you go into market. Lastly, he lost about 95% off his portfolio. he got upset and he thought that he’s not a good thing. I told him it’s just his experience. Yes overtrading is not really good sometimes.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 27, 2024, 04:29:06 PM
I got a complaint today from one of my old friend he was just telling me about how he is upset consigning bull run because he is not participating on it.
He planned a lot about this bull run that he is going to make much profit from his coin after set and done I advise him that OK you have to hold and wait for the bull run  time which is not too far from now he couldn’t listen and he continue making day to day Trading over trade every single day you go into market.
Well the all time high was hit and then correction happened after you made this post. But at this point the recovery towards the all time high is happening and bitcoin is at 68k USD and dropping, so definitely the bulls are trying to take over but they are being taken over by bears. So if you friend has coins to sell, this is also a good time to sell if they missed the all time high.

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Lastly, he lost about 95% off his portfolio. he got upset and he thought that he’s not a good thing. I told him it’s just his experience. Yes overtrading is not really good sometimes.
I guess his portfolio was mostly altcoins? Because bitcoin did not drop by that much but altcoins sure did. As a member of this forum you should advice him that when the bear market happens, put 95% of his crypto-allocated money into bitcoin and then see how it goes.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: leonair on March 27, 2024, 05:13:49 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.
YouTube is a place of entertainment and here some content creators create and publish different types of content that attract us a lot but talk in a manner that sounds like trading is very easy. But when you actually start trading yourself, you will realize how difficult trading is.  So the more you trade, the more you will lose because there is a lot of risk in each entry. So if one sets a specific target like 5-20$ daily profit then he can avoid over trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: dunfida on March 27, 2024, 05:59:54 PM
Trading is not about trade more and win more but those who are expert if trade more then they win more but people with less knowledge when enter into the trading so the more they trade more they will loss money.

It is necessary that if you are lossing regularly due to lack of knowledge and don't know about trading skills then stop trading until you identify the trading strategies and know how to get profit from trading.
 
For trading you will learn well and little knowledge will not help you to earn more even as a trader there will be certain things that you will experience for the first time so learning does not stops after entering into the trading market.
Those who have little knowledge about trading will certainly experience losses on the trades they make and will drain your savings if they continue to trade and it would be better to learn about trading first so that we can reduce the risk of losses on the trades we make after we learn. then we can try trading again and start with an amount that we can afford.

Yes, you are right that having a little knowledge about trading will make us unable to make a profit from trading and we have to keep learning about trading even though we can trade well, because many of those who already have good experience and knowledge are still learning about trading in order to can avoid losses in trading.
Even if you are experienced, you are really that prone or really could be able to experience loses on which we know that this is something which is inevitable. This is why on the time that you do step your foot into this market then it would really be wise that you should really know on how to deal from it. Over trading is something which is really a common mistake for most people because they would really be trying out to catch up something on which we know that its not really that recommended.One of the most important thing that you should consider is about having that risks management which includes on having that limitation on what are the things
on what you should do. Everything should really be having that limitation if you do really want for something that less risks but of course it would really be always that a part.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: JeffBrad12 on March 28, 2024, 01:46:13 AM
I got a complaint today from one of my old friend he was just telling me about how he is upset consigning bull run because he is not participating on it. He planned a lot about this bull run that he is going to make much profit from his coin after set and done I advise him that OK you have to hold and wait for the bull run  time which is not too far from now he couldn’t listen and he continue making day to day Trading over trade every single day you go into market. Lastly, he lost about 95% off his portfolio. he got upset and he thought that he’s not a good thing. I told him it’s just his experience. Yes overtrading is not really good sometimes.
thats the disadvantage with daily trading and overtrade basically missing the most obvious sign of bullrun just because they keep going and trading there's certain time where we should be taking a break look at the market condition and figure out whether its better to daily trading or to just invest, in this case just investing and holding wins at the end of the day, there are plenty daily trader though they are having good profit from the market rally but certainly lesser profit than those that holds.
this is also the reason why i'm thinking of quitting trading aside from the mental exhaustion that i'm having doing trading investing seems to yield better profit at the end which just kinda defeats the whole purpose of daily trading to get as much profit as we can.
somehow people who invest get more profit than people who does daily trading because the daily trader always taking that little margin of profit as their profit and call it a day.
overall trading just doesn't seem like interesting business to me anymore.
but some people might favour trading because they don't really have the patience to wait, waiting can be a really boring thing for people out there and they want some adrenaline so I guess why people sometime prefer trading over investing.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: husencoe on March 28, 2024, 10:03:01 AM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

I think this is a bad idea and many people believe it so they lose a lot. They only show what people like (making easy money) and don't explain the risks of those activities. Even though trading requires a lot of preparation. Entering without preparation was the same as walking in the darkness of war, impossible not to die. I really feel sorry for the people who lose money by following promotions and content like this. Ordinary people are very easily lured by the idea of ​​making money quickly so many are fooled. They easily believe what others say without asking how to do it right. They are lazy to practice and study, and I think this world is not for them.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Volimack on March 28, 2024, 06:25:01 PM
Trading is a job that requires you to have great skills in many areas, if you have weak knowledge in some areas, you will lose money. I believe that you can earn money in trading, perhaps not a lot of money, but very good results can be achieved by anyone who has enough patience to learn everything necessary and follow risk management.

It is not necessary to trade on futures, learn to achieve an acceptable result on the spot, and this will already be a small victory to begin with.
correct, i am not well experienced in the crypto trading market but i understood some factors as you said that without strong knowledge trading is huge risky and must be money will be lose at the end of day, lack of skill there are no way to make profits and survive here. and patience is playing a big role to make a successful trade.
Business is an organization where there will be ups & down. Sometimes profit sometimes loss and patience works like a strong warrior to recover this loss. A businessman after investing in a project realized that he had a loss in it. But because of this loss, if he does not have patience and does something on the contrary in which apparently he thinks it is beneficial but in reality it causes damage again like morichika. That's why you have to move forward with your own experience in trading.


Title: Re: You lose more when you over trade
Post by: Fredomago on March 28, 2024, 07:27:39 PM
YouTube channels created the idea that you can make a full-time living from trading, and that trading has become a  full time job where you wake up in the morning, make 10 successful trades, and make $5 to $50 in each successful trade. And so you repeat it every day until you become rich, which, if it happens, means that you have an amount of big amounts or it is something that rarely happens and is not even available to everyone, so trading requires patience  in the long term until you see some results achieved.

I think this is a bad idea and many people believe it so they lose a lot. They only show what people like (making easy money) and don't explain the risks of those activities. Even though trading requires a lot of preparation. Entering without preparation was the same as walking in the darkness of war, impossible not to die. I really feel sorry for the people who lose money by following promotions and content like this. Ordinary people are very easily lured by the idea of ​​making money quickly so many are fooled. They easily believe what others say without asking how to do it right. They are lazy to practice and study, and I think this world is not for them.

Well I think if they will share everything it will be better,  as viewers and followers may have the right insight within the business,  if that can easily done then we may see a pot of successful traders compared with those who lose a lot of money from this industry,  we know by the fact that it's not easy to predict the next possible market movement and even how hard you do your research chances to fail is uncontrollable,  better not to over trade and take time dealing with your research enjoy the learning and avoid being greedy it helps a lot to maintain the momentum and to keep your composure.