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Title: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stadus on December 31, 2023, 01:54:29 PM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: YOSHIE on December 31, 2023, 04:23:59 PM
Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
For example:
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.

For me, of course I don't want to underestimate the punches, speed and strength that Inoue has, I hope this opportunity really happens between Casimero vs. Inoue, regarding losing and winning, maybe we should wait for the continuation.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stadus on December 31, 2023, 04:48:11 PM
Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
For example:
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.


For me, of course I don't want to underestimate the punches, speed and strength that Inoue has, I hope this opportunity really happens between Casimero vs. Inoue, regarding losing and winning, maybe we should wait for the continuation.

No one is underestimating Inoue here because he is unbeatable as we can see on his previous fights. I think it was Casimero who is underestimated but the latter wanted to prove something. So Inoue, give this man a shot!


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: robelneo on December 31, 2023, 04:48:26 PM
It's long been overdue but Casimero blew it, his last two fights are questionable if you compare Casimero and Inoue now, Inoue is getting better while Casimero is fading if we base it on both fighters' last two fights, of course, I still support Casimero, he may just be the man who can offer a good challenge against Inoue but he needs to take things seriously, I don't like his brother as his trainer he should replace him his performance is downgrading when his brother becomes his trainer.
His former trainer advised him to take a new trainer

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I am seeing a different John Riel. He lost the snap in his punches. He really needs strength and conditioning and a nutritionist. I think he needs a new trainer so he has to change everything from trainer and strength and conditioning,” Neri said in an interview on Sparring Sessions.

“If he finds himself a new trainer and conditioning coach, he will be back. He needs a head trainer. His brother Jayson will be there, but there has to be a head trainer. John Riel knows this, he has been in boxing for a long time.”]“I am seeing a different John Riel. He lost the snap in his punches. He really needs strength and conditioning and a nutritionist. I think he needs a new trainer so he has to change everything from trainer and strength and conditioning,” Neri said in an interview on Sparring Sessions.

“If he finds himself a new trainer and conditioning coach, he will be back. He needs a head trainer. His brother Jayson will be there, but there has to be a head trainer. John Riel knows this, he has been in boxing for a long time.”

Veteran trainer Nonoy Neri advises John Riel Casimero to hire a new trainer (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/885785/veteran-trainer-nonoy-neri-advises-john-riel-casimero-to-hire-a-new-trainer/story/)


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: AbuBhakar on December 31, 2023, 05:00:36 PM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: cabron on December 31, 2023, 05:22:57 PM

Casimero's team has to make him fight this year to rank up, he has to display the most extraordinary KO to impress Arum so he may have the chance to challenge Inoue because if not then \Inoue will just leave him behind and move to 126.

His build I think doesn't fit to be in the heavier division so if he finds his weight is already slowing his punches, he might just stop moving up. 130 lbs I think is already too much. And Casimero could chase that limit.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: dothebeats on December 31, 2023, 06:14:42 PM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

Casimero should not aim for another Inoue fight any time soon but rather just get a lot more experience in his current weight division. Get matched with different prime fighters, be comfortable with the weight division, then challenge Inoue. The Japanese seemed to be staying in this weight class, too, although there aren't many fighters left for him to conquer. Hopefully Casimero and his team gets level-headed and not change for revenge immediately but rather, strengthen their fighter further. An Inoue fight is a big paycheck, but certainly not a good record if you are on the losing side.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bisdak40 on January 01, 2024, 03:40:31 AM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

"Styles make a fight", this is a saying in boxing that would not die. Casimero and Tapales have contrasting style though Casimero's last two fights were not impressive but ge got that one punch that could change the fight on his favor.

The only hurdle here is if Casimero is willing to go back to MP Promotions as he is well taken cared of his current promoters as i see it.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: coin-investor on January 01, 2024, 06:33:07 AM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.


If the Casimero brothers are dead serious about getting the Inoue to fight then he should take this offer, swallow their pride, and work with MP promotions again, you cannot get the Inoue to fight by just daring the Inoue camps and posting on social media that he is the one who can beat Inoue when looking on his last three fights he is nowhere on his best form, people think that he just want to make money from Inoue, he is a fading fighters and all his last three fights are not good that is why he is out of Inoue's radar

He needs to get under the MP Promotions he is going downhill if he cannot he will be forgotten and he also needs to get rid of his brother as his main trainer he needs a veteran who can lead him back to his former shape, we'll follow this development if he will agree to work with MP promotions again.
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Following his last title defense of his WBO bantamweight belt against Guillermo Rigondaeux in Carson, California, everything went downhill for Casimero as he eventually had a falling out with MP Promotions and Gibbons, who had worked with him for almost a decade.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 01, 2024, 08:41:37 AM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)

I haven't check on the link but it's weird, I mean Casimero has bolted out from MP already, has a Japanese manager with him and they got him 2 fights at 122 lbs although the result is not that great for Inoue.

So it means that Casimero has to swallow his pride again and join MP before he can get a fight with Inoue?

And it also means that his Japanese manager can't do it against his fellow countrymen? Something is not right now, not sure why Sean Gibbons is still spewing Casimero's name when obviously he is not with them anymore. I think their Japanese manager can do that as well, get to Inoue and it's much easier as there will be no language barrier, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Questat on January 01, 2024, 08:44:38 AM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

"Styles make a fight", this is a saying in boxing that would not die. Casimero and Tapales have contrasting style though Casimero's last two fights were not impressive but ge got that one punch that could change the fight on his favor.

Casimero is a different fighter compared to Tapales and the other boxers that Inoue defeated.
People seemed to forget that Casimero is a 3 division world champion (correct me if I'm wrong), and they are underesimating him. But let's cut this long speculation, I mean, why would Inoue give a go signal so this will be over soon?

The only hurdle here is if Casimero is willing to go back to MP Promotions as he is well taken cared of his current promoters as i see it.

I won't disagree with you on that, but the question is, Did Casimero get big fights under his current promotion?


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Yogee on January 01, 2024, 08:57:22 AM
It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stadus on January 01, 2024, 09:04:14 AM
It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

At least believe that this fight is gonna happen, although with a slim chance only.

Inoue during his interview mentioned that he is gonna stay with the current division, that means he'll have to fight mandatory challengers and maybe give Casimero some special treatment. It's not that Casimero's decline of performance is the reason IMO, it's just that Inoue is trying to go for an easier opponent.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: aioc on January 01, 2024, 09:16:12 AM
It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

There are reasons for his declining performance, one of these is too much exposure to social media, taking his brother as his main trainer, and not seriously training, but if he is under the MP Promotions things can change and we will all see the Casimero that we once saw as a dangerous and hungry fighter, his performance may be declining but so far he has not been beaten the last who beat him was Jonas Sultan and this was 6 years ago, unless he is knock out or someone beat him decisively, it's still worth for any promotion to take Casimero.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 01, 2024, 10:00:27 AM
It may look like an interesting fight to watch even for neutral boxing fans but I seriously doubt this is going to happen. I can see some members already mentioned his declining performance from his previous fights so Casimero likely losing his next bouts this year while Inoue will continue to dominate. It just doesn't make sense when he hasn't really earned that right to fight the best in the division. I would like to be proven wrong.

There are reasons for his declining performance, one of these is too much exposure to social media, taking his brother as his main trainer, and not seriously training, but if he is under the MP Promotions things can change and we will all see the Casimero that we once saw as a dangerous and hungry fighter, his performance may be declining but so far he has not been beaten the last who beat him was Jonas Sultan and this was 6 years ago, unless he is knock out or someone beat him decisively, it's still worth for any promotion to take Casimero.

Even his performance do looks good in others eyes but its impossible that we cant really be able to compare on whose much better. Casimero do really loves on trashtalking and telling that he could beat up Inoue
but if we do tend to look at on his past fight performance on which lacking of stamina kind of problems seems pretty obvious then we can really say that he wont really be able to last up against Inoue.
If this one would be pushed through for this year 2024 for the said fight then it would really be definitely a fight on which everybody is really that been excited about.

Lets see if Casimero would really be able to stand into his trashtalking against Inoue or those are really just that pure talks but cant be able to finish it out.  8)
Lots had been liking to support Casimero against Inoue but since Inoue do say up some words about being not interested then he do knows
that he isnt on the level of his so he just simply ignore it out.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: yazher on January 01, 2024, 11:50:17 AM
Casimero's team has to make him fight this year to rank up, he has to display the most extraordinary KO to impress Arum so he may have the chance to challenge Inoue because if not then \Inoue will just leave him behind and move to 126.
His build I think doesn't fit to be in the heavier division so if he finds his weight is already slowing his punches, he might just stop moving up. 130 lbs I think is already too much. And Casimero could chase that limit.

Right now, this is what they need because they cannot just simply convince the promoters to give them the fight if they don't have any value because of how they are showing the fans their low-class skills. It's such a waste of time for Inoue to fight him at this current level but that will gonna change if he starts to knock out all the opponents that came across him inside the ring before a possible chance with Inoue. They really need to focus on building him the right way again because if they don't, that fight will be forever speculation.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hirose UK on January 02, 2024, 08:36:54 AM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)
Talks about Casimero vs Inoue have been going on for long time and many fans of both parties hope that they can meet in fight to prove who is the strongest and can get the title they are fighting for.
Maybe this will be like the Inoue vs Tapales fight because Inoue himself is still truly an undefeated boxer after successfully knocking Tapales out.
We won't know whether they can actually meet this year but if it is true that Casimero wants to sign contract with MP Promotion then it is very likely that this year we will see how the fight between the Filipino boxer vs Inoue, the knockout monster from Japan.
But if this fight happens then I will choose Inoue as the favorite and of course this is not without reason.
Inoue is boxer who can always take advantage of opportunities well and he can make his opponent experience several mistakes which can be used to deliver blow that ends in knockout victory.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Russlenat on January 02, 2024, 10:48:06 AM
Lets see if Casimero would really be able to stand into his trashtalking against Inoue or those are really just that pure talks but cant be able to finish it out.  8)
That we don't know yet. I think the main concern now is for casimero to get a fight with Inoue, and with his current promoter, there seems to be no chance or less chance it is happening. So if he wants to make this into reality, he needs to go back to MP promotion as their president are willing to help him.

Lots had been liking to support Casimero against Inoue but since Inoue do say up some words about being not interested then he do knows
that he isnt on the level of his so he just simply ignore it out.

Did you watch the interview? He mentioned 3 names that he'll like to fight, and that includes Casimero. As to who would he fight first, that's still a question.

If Inoue think that Casimero is not on his level, then why would he fight boxers that are also not on his level before?

Casimero has won championships before, I think it's more than enough to prove that he is worthly to get accepted as a challeger of Inoue, unless there's something we don't know from Inoue's camp on why he would deny the fight.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: TravelMug on January 02, 2024, 10:55:20 AM

Casimero's team has to make him fight this year to rank up, he has to display the most extraordinary KO to impress Arum so he may have the chance to challenge Inoue because if not then \Inoue will just leave him behind and move to 126.

I do agree, so far after he move to 122 lbs, his fights are not that extraordinary. His first fight was a controversy against a Japanese, it was a technical draw. And if I'm not mistaken, it was overuled. And then his fight in Manila was also not that impressive as he failed to win by knockout.

His build I think doesn't fit to be in the heavier division so if he finds his weight is already slowing his punches, he might just stop moving up. 130 lbs I think is already too much. And Casimero could chase that limit.

Could be and then and most likely 122 lbs could be his last weight as he will have difficulty at 126 against taller fighter and obviously the heavier fighter.

But let's see if his Japanese manager can get into Inoue next year. Or they could be instrumental at least as both are Japanese and maybe Arum will also agree with this fight.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Kemarit on January 03, 2024, 10:17:00 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bisdak40 on January 03, 2024, 10:26:37 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Fatunad on January 03, 2024, 10:35:05 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
But i do believe that Tapales would be much having that stamina compared to Casimero if we do really just based up into his previous fights and this is the biggest cons or flaw that i do saw on Casimero.
This guy sure loves to have some talks but i doubt that he could really be able to stood on what he had been talking trash against Inoue, i dont know if he do really mean it or really just trying out to hype the fight.
I dont see for  this boxer or fighter to be able to get toe to toe with Inoue in terms of speed and power then i could say that he might be the one would really be sleeping on the canvass.

Yes, he had the power but i doubt on the speed and the stamina. If he would be able to make out some long rounds.If he could really be able to make some nasty counter
and able to survive further rounds and made out some solid shots then he might have the chance but i do still highly doubt that for it to happen.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Finestream on January 04, 2024, 07:13:20 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.

However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shot. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.

Luis Nery is the front runner to fight Inoue because he is the WBC ranked number 1 fighter, a mandatory fight of some sort but if Team Inoue opts out or doesn't want to fight Nery in Las Vegas as he is banned in Japan and they want to fight for a voluntary defense against Casimero which is very likely as Quadro Alas is the rank top 3 in the WBO rankings.

Casimero's chance of fighting Inoue this year is high because it's Team Inoue who floated his name to be one of their ward's opponents plus the taunting which might have affected Inoue hehe.

Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bisdak40 on January 04, 2024, 11:27:58 AM
Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Getmon on January 04, 2024, 12:18:46 PM
Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Maslate on January 04, 2024, 12:48:11 PM
Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.
I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: blckhawk on January 04, 2024, 12:58:21 PM
The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly. I mean why are they so quick at having a rematch, didn't Inoue won the last fight with an astounding performance? Are they trying to dethrone the Monster as a champion? As much as I like to criticize what they've been doing, I think the boxing federations that's currently managing and making these fights possible needs a complete rework and clean house because the federation is so corrupt, the right boxers don't get the right fights because of the corruption.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bisdak40 on January 05, 2024, 03:58:06 AM
Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 05, 2024, 04:02:16 AM
The only thing that will make that match possible is if there's a lot of money that's going to be involved and the right people will have their palms greased, there's no way that they're going to get that fight again quickly.

It's not a concern anymore, they build a hype for a long time so people already know if this will happen they are gonna grab a PPV subscription for this. Usually, it's on the PPV that generate a lot of money as it's worldwide, and before that Tapales vs Inoue fight which I think does not generate a lot of money, this Inoue vs Casimero has been rumored already.

I hope it will happen this year, there's plenty of time to make it to reality, so hang tight and we will eventually see a fight where Inoue would not easily dominate his opponent. (I believe on that).


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Saisher on January 05, 2024, 04:36:02 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bittraffic on January 05, 2024, 05:54:20 AM
There is a video of Casimero recently that he talks about Inoue. It's the usual though, John Riel said that if he lands his power on Inoue, he will definitely go to the canvass. So Casimero is already hyping the fight and who knows, maybe he will be given the first chance here.
He will go on like this until he gets the fight, I'm surprised that the Inoue camp is not annoyed by Casimero's trick, it seems like they get used to it and just concentrate on whoever their promotion and the organization will give it to him, but as this point, he will have to toe the line and wait for Inoue to give him attention after all he is the undisputed champion he gets to say who he wants to fight.

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However, Neri seems to be the front runner for Inoue and I think everyone wanted to see this fight as well. We are curious as how Neri's style can go against Inoue and he has power as well. And as we can see in the Tapales fight, Marlon did hit Naoya with some good shots. So if someone like Casimero or Neri can do that to Inoue, it might be a different fight or outcome.
Against Neri, it is going to be a good fight, but Inoue is at his strongest and he is very comfortable in that weight so I cannot think of anyone in that division who can beat Inoue, he is just so good that he is being compared to champions in the higher divisions like Tank Davis.

For now, Inoue is their best money maker so it wouldn't make sense if they match him to someone who could possibly knock him out. It will ruin the record too. Inoue hasn't been knocking some top-rated Mexican boxers yet, they will likely want to see more of these than having him knocked out by Casimero.

Keeping him winning more fights must be a plan for this guy until he reaches certain limits where he finds it difficult to defeat someone.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 05, 2024, 06:02:41 AM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)

A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 05, 2024, 06:18:20 AM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)

A fight with Inoue represents a lot of money, that's why Gibbons is suddenly interested in working with Casimero again. Neither Gibbons, nor MP Promotions, represent Inoue so they have no power to actually make that fight happen. In the past Gibbons has prevented good fights from happening like Loma vs. Salido and Ryan Garcia vs. Pitbull Cruz because he was greedy and wanted too much money. Casimero can get the Inoue fight on his own as long as he can win impressively in his next fights.
And with that argument, we really need to see who's Casimero fighting next and he should really win big or expressive regardless of who he is fighting next. He can't just go and leap over the likes of Neri and Akhmadaliev that has been mentioned by Inoue's camp for now.

So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Distinctin on January 05, 2024, 12:44:12 PM

So impressive win, a big knockout and maybe the camp of Inoue will say yes. But I don't know if Gibbons will be in the middle though, and I don't think that Casimero will just go and repair his relationship with MP or Gibbons himself.

Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: aioc on January 05, 2024, 03:50:22 PM


Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Heartilly on January 05, 2024, 05:54:36 PM
If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

John Riel Casimero can secure a big fight even without the help of MP Promotions during the time he's a champion. Everything goes well but their camp blew the rules of the Britain Boxing Council before the supposed fight between Casimero and Paul Butler. If only Casimero's team didn't mess up, we already see now who's the winner between Casimero and Naoya Inoue.

It's hard to get Casimero on the line against Inoue even MP Promotions will work on it today. Naoya Inoue has nothing to gain if he fights Casimero as a challenger. For Casimero to be considered, he needs to be a top contender. He can't just go directly with undisputed champion not unless Top Rank and Inoue will push on it but that's impossible.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Distinctin on January 06, 2024, 01:56:13 PM


Inoue already showed his interest on fighting Casimero but its a matter of when. 

Aside from Casimero, Inoue still would like to fight Neri and Akhmadaliev. So if Inoue will prioritizes the two, most likely Casimero will not be able to fight Inoue this year as Inoue only fights twice in a year, his max, based on his boxing records. Worst if Inoue will both beat Akhmadaliev and Neri, and will decide to move up, that would left Casimero chasing Inoue. In that case Casimero could become a champion in the super bantamweight if Inoue leave, but he'll not be able to prove himself against Inoue.

So many things are going to happen this year, Casimero should do the chasing here since he is the challenger in his next fight he should show improvement by knocking out whoever his opponent is, his last two fights were not good so the Inoue team put him out of the radar, Casimero is all talks, while Inoue is eyeing who are the top boxers in his division if you're the champion you will look who is the closest contender and some champions cherry picked but I don't think Inoue will cherry pick fighters.

If he can't secure a fight against Inoue, and Inoue decides to move up, it is not Inoue's fault so he should just shut up and just concentrate on getting a title,  he blew it by going out on MP promotions who can give him decent fights and are good in securing big fights

A KO will only happen if he will stop fighting Japanes oppenents, especially if the fight is held in Japan. The last fight of Casimero is quite controversial, although we've seen him slowed down a bit by I believe the fight should have ended a KO on his favorite, but it was declared as no contest.

You know, his last fight with a Japanese prior to Yukinori Oguni was decided as no contest but later on it was change to KO since Ryo Akaho he really loss on that fight. You know, if without the "best actor" performance, Casimero could probably have won another KO.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Getmon on January 17, 2024, 11:14:26 AM
Last time I checked, Casimero wasn't in the top 3, so I'm surprised with this information. Despite his not impressive performance in this previous fight, he was still given a credit and that probably resulted to increase his ranking. This is very good, with this, there's a likelihood that this fight could potentially happen as he is next in rank after Nery.

My prediction here is that he will fight Casimero first then after that ( if he wins), he will fight Nery outside the US and he will move up to another divison to fight the champions. Seems it's a good plan becuse he will introduce himself again and a good way to end the reign in the current division since he'll be moving up after.

The WBO rankings was just updated last December 17, 2023, so this is very new. WBO might have in mind that if they put Casimero on higher rankings, he could potentially fight for a championship belt against Inoue thus they earn some sanctioning money too, clever move on their part and by the way, WBO is friendly to Pinoy fighters while WBC to Mexican fighters as well (might not true but that is my observation).

Casimero is well known among individuals here, however besides that, how can he merit a match with Inoue when he has not performed perfectly in this weight? The WBO has high regard for Casimero because he was their champion previously and he did not lose the belt in the ring. Casimero could offer a match to the boxers above the WBO rank to position himself number one.

Likewise, I observed the WBC as more friendly to the Mexicans because they are situated in Mexico. WBO is Puerto Rican, and it has its own extraordinary champions. Manny Pacquiao, Oleksandr Usyk and Teofimo Lopez are some examples.

One thing Team Casimero could do to get a match with Inoue is to a WBO elimination fight with Sam Goodman and the winner will be the number 1 rank and the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt. I don't if this could be done as Sam Goodman is also the mandatory challenger for the IBF belt. I would say that it's only luck for Casimero to land a fight with Inoue with the recent performance that he had.
According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Sanitough on January 17, 2024, 11:49:28 AM
According to recent reports, Naoya Inoue and Luis Nery have already agreed on a deal for their match in Japan. I figured Inoue would not battle Nery in the USA for this championship match. Perhaps this match will be viewed as obligatory by the WBC which implies that the WBO is the last remaining organization that has no mandatory challenger for its belt.
The ban was lift just that quick, it's quite questionable but we know the intention that they want Inoue to fight in Japan (still). Maybe on the next division when Inoue will move up, we will see him fighting in the US, right now, they want to ensure that Inoue will not lose or will be cheated, whatever they are thinking, it's for the best interest of their fighter who are prediction to make a history.

To land Inoue, Casimero can match with boxers in the WBO rank list and perform perfectly. The WBO would examine it and if luck is with Casimero, he would be allowed to become its mandatory challenger and it would be on Inoue to grant or leave the belt behind because there are plans to climb another weight class.

Casimero is currently ranked at number 3 if we are talking of WBO.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

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Sam Goodman
Luis Nery
John Riel Casimero

If Inoue is up for the top challenger, I think it should be Sam Goodman, which personally I'm not familiar with this boxer.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: peter0425 on January 17, 2024, 11:55:04 AM
Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 17, 2024, 12:33:44 PM
Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

As for the amount you will bet, just don't save for it or accumulate, just bet small and have fun.  :)


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: danherbias07 on January 17, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
I don't know who Sam Goodman is but he is currently the number 1 in the ranking, followed by Neri then Casimero. Murodjon Akhmadaliev is just number 6 in the ranking, so I don't understand why Inoue had missed to mention Sam Goodman. Honestly, I don't know this guy, but I'm surprise he is in the number 1 ranking. So if Inoue will fight the challenger in WBO, he could fight Sam Goodman and then Casimero vs Nery, winners of both fight will afce each other, how's that sound?
Sounds more possible than a direct fight of Casimero against Inoue.
But let's not forget, Murodjon Akhmadaliev just won against Kevin Gonzalez for the WBA super bantamweight title eliminator so he has more chance to fight Inoue first than others.
Now Inoue said he will stick in the super bantamweight division for now but I doubt it will be that long. Maybe he will just defend it twice or three times and if Sam Goodman will be next, even if Casimero signs with MP, he will have a hard time having that chance against Inoue. Unless, like what others mentioned, if the prize pool will be too sweet that Inoue's camp cannot decline. Money can control everything, and even these organizations will undoubtedly accept it especially if they can make a lot of money from PPV and ticket sales and other ways to profit from it.
Casimero is only glorious in his country but he might be unknown to others, they would need to boost him first either through winning fights or making a trend for him on social media. I mean, that had been the way of boxers now to boost their popularity.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Casdinyard on January 17, 2024, 03:56:39 PM
This fight is only possible, if Casimero is going to sign with MP Promotion again. As stated in the article, MP promotion through SEAN Gibbons are willing to help Casimero to get a fight with Inoue. And according to the camp if Inoue, Champ's fight was already line up, and will start with Nery (as mandatory challenger) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, Casimero is currently last in the list, but anything can happen as long as the negotiation is would result to in agreement of both parties.

Read, for more story here/

Gibbons willing to open door for potential Casimero fight with Inoue
 (https://www.spin.ph/boxing/gibbons-willing-to-open-door-for-potential-casimero-fight-with-inoue-a793-20231230)
Last or first, signing with Pacquiao's team will definitely shoot up his chances of getting fights and being recognized by the people around him, and with the connections that the former pound-for-pound king has over different institutions in the boxing world there's a high chance that he'll make the fight happen sometime in the near future. It's just a matter of how Casimero should showcase himself at this point.

People will always gun for the kingleader's head, but it's those that come close to getting the kill that would really cement their names in the history of the game. Inoue's in his prime now and there's good chances that Casimero's not gonna win this, but if he shows himself in a way where he won't look like a total laughingstock and actually give the people and his opponent a good fight, we might even see more Casimero fights in the future. Pacquiao became one of the most respected athletes in the history of boxing not because he was undefeated, but because he has the skills to perform and the fighting spirit to keep going even when the odds are stacked against him. I don't really see Pacquiao in Casimero but who knows? We'll just have to wait and see for now I guess until the fight does happen. Till then we can only speculate.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: coin-investor on January 19, 2024, 06:13:38 AM
Looks like its getting more impossible for this fight to takes place any time soon but we wanted to see this match takes place anytime it is available .

I for now will accumulate money to use as betting here if goes possible in the future.

Maybe it will not happen anytime soon but I don't think it's impossible to happen. As long as Casimero will not retire and he will continue to follow Inoue then I believe the time will come that they will eventually meet. Casimero is a quality fighter but it's just unfortunate he doesn't have a good ranking, but his ranking will grow as long as he remains active and of course will continue winning.

As for the amount you will bet, just don't save for it or accumulate, just bet small and have fun.  :)

There's hope for the Inoue - Casimero fight, Inoue floated the idea, he will soon leave the super Bantamweight division, and the best way to leave a mark on that division and welcome his coming in the Featherweight division is to beat the fighter who's very eager to fight him.

Their supposed schedule was canceled due to the pandemic and it created hype during that time, It is about time that the Inoue camp gives Casimero a chance to prove himself worthy of the challenges because so many videos of Casimero he keeps criticizing Inoue for avoiding him.

If he doesn't give Casimero a chance, Quatro Alas will keep criticizing him even if Inoue goes up in the featherweight division, It is on Inoue call to stop this criticism


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Inoue himself floated the idea of a voluntary title defense versus former three-division titlist John Riel Casimero as a third fight for 2024. Mr. Ohashi was not quite as giddy over the matchup, though Inoue views the matchup as unfinished business; they were due to meet in an April 2020 bantamweight unification clash in Las Vegas which was canceled due to the initial wave of the global pandemic.
Team Inoue Eyes Tokyo Dome, Saudi Arabia As Hosting Locations For Planned Three-Fight 2024 Campaign (https://www.boxingscene.com/team-inoue-eyes-tokyo-dome-saudi-arabia-hosting-locations-planned-three-fight-2024-campaign--180335)


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Oasisman on January 19, 2024, 06:37:25 AM
Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
For example:
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"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.

That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Russlenat on January 19, 2024, 07:07:30 AM
That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Taskford on January 19, 2024, 08:17:01 AM
That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

For doing that he already caught the attention of Inoue but the problem with Casimero is he doesn't have anything to bet so Inoue's camp will get an interest to make their fight to happen. But they can't get anything from him that's why its really bad that we can't see their fight to happen. Plus the bad performance shown by Casimero on his last fight contribute for Inoue's camp for not letting that fight to happen since many people see how bad really it is so its expect now that Casimero is now out of their track.


This is the 5 target fights that Inoue camps target to happen https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-next-fight-five-opponents-tank-lomachenko/4b45fb202606041d1e5b15ee and to bad no Casimero's name mentioned there.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stadus on January 19, 2024, 12:59:46 PM
That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.
Even before when he was still a champion he already starting trash-talking Inoue, so there's nothing new here. The only problem of Casimero is his ranking and that reflects the quality of wins he hand in his previous fight, maybe more fights for him to polish his standing and who knows, he might become a mandatory challenger while Inoue has not decided to leave the division yet.

For doing that he already caught the attention of Inoue but the problem with Casimero is he doesn't have anything to bet so Inoue's camp will get an interest to make their fight to happen. But they can't get anything from him that's why its really bad that we can't see their fight to happen. Plus the bad performance shown by Casimero on his last fight contribute for Inoue's camp for not letting that fight to happen since many people see how bad really it is so its expect now that Casimero is now out of their track.


This is the 5 target fights that Inoue camps target to happen https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-next-fight-five-opponents-tank-lomachenko/4b45fb202606041d1e5b15ee and to bad no Casimero's name mentioned there.

Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

If Inoue would say no, he can do that as there are fighters in line before Casimero, but if he wants to challenge himself, maybe he should get into the ring with Casimero so the rumors and speculation will be over as soon as he KO him.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: goinmerry on January 19, 2024, 10:11:05 PM
Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

Only Filipino fans are hyping the match. If there's a massive demand from the international boxing community fans, it's an obvious easy money but that's not the case. For Casimero to be recognized, no choice but to climb up rankings as being the top contender will be granted an eligibility to fight for the title.

Anyway, since it's now Luis Nery on the line for Inoue, Casimero's camp need to secure a fight right away even below ranked boxers than him. What's more important today for Casimero is to just secure a fight against anyone as much as possible and try to build up a winning streak until being recognized.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: robelneo on January 20, 2024, 02:31:10 AM
Inoue doesn't have to play with the ranking if he wants to fight Casimero. Instead, he should look at the revenue side because this supposed fight has been hype for years which I think people would watch it even if the tickets are expensive.

Only Filipino fans are hyping the match. If there's a massive demand from the international boxing community fans, it's an obvious easy money but that's not the case. For Casimero to be recognized, no choice but to climb up rankings as being the top contender will be granted an eligibility to fight for the title.

Anyway, since it's now Luis Nery on the line for Inoue, Casimero's camp need to secure a fight right away even below ranked boxers than him. What's more important today for Casimero is to just secure a fight against anyone as much as possible and try to build up a winning streak until being recognized.

An Inoue-Casimero fight is attractive for promoters and the boxing community in general, both are current and former champions respectively and both have a long streak of winnings and both have beaten a lot of great boxers, this fight is easy to sell, and to hype not only for the Filipino boxing fans but for all the boxing fans Inoue's dominance is unquestionable but Casimero last loss was way back 2017 and he was never knocked out.

Inoue only fights in Japan but Casimero is a journeyman he goes to the territory of his enemy and beats his enemy scourge him and humiliates him in front of his countryman, something that Casimero wants to do to Inoue in front of his countryman.

Remember the Argentina riot
Lazarte vs. Casimero RIOT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZysjbV_iA8w) and Casimero continues to fight on enemy territories after this riot.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 20, 2024, 03:34:41 AM
Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue. But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Maslate on January 20, 2024, 03:51:48 AM
Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 20, 2024, 05:35:42 AM
Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
News between Casimero vs. Inoue, has become a hot topic of conversation among loyal supporters of both parties, supporters each claim that each of their boxing idols is the best, Here, in other news, there are many comments that we can see on Casimero's Facebook page, he posted a challenging video, it looks serious and a little too arrogant of Casimero towards Inoue.

I hope boxing between Casimero vs. Inoue could become a reality in the coming year, there is an interesting point that I see in this.
For example:
Quote
"All my loyal supporters here say that no one can beat you (Inoue) except me," said Casimero.

This is a statement from Casemiro's supporters, but there has been no interesting reply to Inoue's loyal supporters, it will be interesting to see the replies from Inoue's supporters.
That's how arrogant he is, but isn't it normal in boxing? I mean, they would do some trash talk so they will be noticed, and I find it very effective for him since we are talking about him. On the 3 boxers, (including Casimero) that was mentioned, I'm sure fans would love to see Casimero to go first although he isn't the priority according to Inoue's camp or Top Rank prom.

That only shows how desperate Casimero is. Trash talks and showing arrogance is most of the time spice things up between two fighters as well as the fans, but this one for Casimero, he's starting to sound so annoying and desperate. He had his chance but he definitely blew it. Now, he's desperately chasing for the spotlight. However, Casimero's performance looks like it's deteriorating based on his last couple of fights. Comparing the 2 currently, Inoue is way too superior against Casimero.

Casimero is really just pure talks but doesnt really have that kind of power on beating Inoue. I dont know on why there are people who are really that eager when it comes on having that kind of fight
against Inoue then i dont see the point but now that there are really those fight arrangements already then Casimero is really that on the line then it would really be the fight on where those
fans are really that waiting for. I would love to see on what are those peoples faces on the time that they see Casimero would be facing down on the canvass or simply having that TKO.

Now that there is 3 fights that would happen for this year then Inoue should really be prepared because those fighters wont really be that fragile. Nery? Dangerous.
Casimero? Nah.. This dude is really just that pure talks. This is why it would really be just that right people should really be that preparing on how their boxer
would really be facing out that disappointing loss.  ;D


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Shamm on January 20, 2024, 07:23:19 AM
Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: TravelMug on January 20, 2024, 08:00:58 AM
Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.

Maybe it's because that we have seen Casimero's prime when he won against Tete and then defended his belt against Duke Micah. It was a war, specially with Duke Micah, I mean Micah really try to stand toe to toe win Casimero that time and they are banging. But Micah can't take the power of Casimero. But after that, Casimero can't make the weight against Butler twice, unable to defend his belt and then lost it without fighting Butler. Now he goes up to 122 lbs, didnt' impressed in his first two fights. So I don't see him getting a fight with Inoue next year, Naoya has two fights, Nery and then Akhmadaliev.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: rodskee on January 20, 2024, 08:11:22 AM
We have been waiting for this Match to takes place but until now its not happening there is a lot of
hindrances for this Casimero Dream fight as he wanted to take a revenge for his fellow Filipino Boxer Nonito Donaire
that Inoue beat twice .

But I know it may not in this division but in time they will face each others as Casimero is also a promising
boxer that has a lot of potential to become a first boxer to defeat this Japanese Monster .

If he have fought Donaire in His prime , maybe he have faced a hard fight .


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 20, 2024, 08:27:20 AM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.

Casimero should not aim for another Inoue fight any time soon but rather just get a lot more experience in his current weight division. Get matched with different prime fighters, be comfortable with the weight division, then challenge Inoue. The Japanese seemed to be staying in this weight class, too, although there aren't many fighters left for him to conquer. Hopefully Casimero and his team gets level-headed and not change for revenge immediately but rather, strengthen their fighter further. An Inoue fight is a big paycheck, but certainly not a good record if you are on the losing side.
Exactly because it is on Inoue's advantage if Casimero keeps on pushing this fight as the Japanese might not go up out of his comfort zone which is his current weight division. But still it is up to the Japanese side whether they have the guts of going up on higher weight division just like what Pacquiao did to most of his opponents.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hirose UK on January 20, 2024, 02:00:41 PM
Honestly in the world of boxing I am impressed of casimero before but seeing his previous fight then I have a doubt if he can win Inoue in his style. But still if he have a good techniques and strategy then maybe he can win by unanimous decision but I have a doubt in knocking out. Cause we all know how casimero play but Inoue is smart enough he will adjust his strategy base in his opponent so for sure if casimero will more aggressive then Inoue will take it easy. Anyways for now casimero will win in his fights in order to prove that he is worthy enough to fight against the monster of Japan.
We can learn to judge from Inoue previous fights and was able to achieve victory in every fight.
Inoue always fights with defensive style at the start of the first round and is more careful because he can see the opponent weaknesses and mistakes by opening up opportunities for Inoue to be able to throw punch.
When Inoue can read his movements and see how his opponent fights, he always carries out more dominating attacks and he creates opportunities to hit his opponent and knock him out until he wins by knockout.
Inoue can always do all of this in all his fights and he is truly not just strong boxer but also smart and has accumulated lot of experience in conquering every opponent easily.
If Casimero faced Inoue then we would be able to guess that Inoue would still be the favorite and would win the fight. Casimero did fight quite well but he couldn't beat Inoue yet.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on January 20, 2024, 02:49:08 PM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.
Still not impressive for me, Inoue's biggest fight was with  Donaire and if you watch it closely either of them could have won that fight if their punches are going in. I've never seen bloody Inoue after his succeeding fights. I can't compare Inoue to some of the fearless fighter I've known, coz upon checking he didn't beat any known fighters!

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.
Casimero want him, and if you look at the titles, Inoue can steal Casimero's belt but why don't he fight Casimero?


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Kemarit on January 20, 2024, 08:44:08 PM
Casimero will just shut down by Inoue when this happened. Inoue is not a joke anymore while his skills is downgrade significantly base on both recent fight. I’m not sure anymore how he can beat Inoue when this match happened.
Still not impressive for me, Inoue's biggest fight was with  Donaire and if you watch it closely either of them could have won that fight if their punches are going in. I've never seen bloody Inoue after his succeeding fights. I can't compare Inoue to some of the fearless fighter I've known, coz upon checking he didn't beat any known fighters!

This will still be a hype if Casimero last fight resulted in a convincing manner. He might suffer the same fate of Tapales if he is still living in a dream that he is the only one who can stop Inoue.
Casimero want him, and if you look at the titles, Inoue can steal Casimero's belt but why don't he fight Casimero?

You are referring to the Donaire first fight? Yeah, Nonito almost beat Inoue that time and put a serious damage on his, broke his orbital bone, but in the end, the judges awarded the fight to Inoue 117–109, 116–111, and 114–113 and won the WBSS trophy. But after that fight, Inoue really improved and in the rematch, Donaire was no match for him, maybe Inoue really aged already.

Then he beat Butler, take the last of the bantamweight belt, WBO, and unified it. Then bet the best super bantamweight in Fulton and Tapales. I think that is impressive enough for Inoue to be given the Boxer of the year by Ring magazine.

On the other hand, Casimero also moved up to super bantamweight because he can't no longer make the weight at bantamweight. Debut at 122 lbs, fight Oguni, that ended in a disappointing technical draw (later reversed). He then fought Filipus Nghitumbwa in Manila for the so called World Boxing Organization (WBO) global super bantamweight and won by UD and it was not impressive.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: passwordnow on January 20, 2024, 08:51:18 PM
This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Getmon on January 21, 2024, 12:13:16 PM
This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Viscore on January 21, 2024, 01:31:08 PM
This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

Casimero keeps challenging Inoue because he felt the fight was due, it was the "unfinished business" as these two were suppose to before the pandemic, and although the pandemic was over, the postponed fight turned out to be a cancelled fight, which I understand why Casimero is still chasing Inoue.

As long Casimero is still active, we should not be surprise to hear the name Inoue from him as he'll continue to trash talk Inoue until the latter will finally grant his challenge.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bittraffic on January 21, 2024, 02:45:45 PM
This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.

Casimero keeps challenging Inoue because he felt the fight was due, it was the "unfinished business" as these two were suppose to before the pandemic, and although the pandemic was over, the postponed fight turned out to be a cancelled fight, which I understand why Casimero is still chasing Inoue.

As long Casimero is still active, we should not be surprise to hear the name Inoue from him as he'll continue to trash talk Inoue until the latter will finally grant his challenge.

Inoue is not up for trashtalk. This will only make him decline Casimero as a means to deny him a big fight. Casimero is the one who needed the big fight and Inoue can just go on and fight someone else or retire early.

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: aioc on January 21, 2024, 03:31:01 PM


Inoue is not up for trashtalk. This will only make him decline Casimero as a means to deny him a big fight. Casimero is the one who needed the big fight and Inoue can just go on and fight someone else or retire early.

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


Even if Inoue is not a trash-talker there will be speculation on what would have been if they fought, and this is what Inoue's promoters are looking for, they don't want people to have an idea that Casimero is that good, and he is challenging Inoue and he did not give him a chance, this is a fight that can sell one trash talker who wants to prove that he can beat Inoue, and Inoue who's been beating decisively every opponent that comes along.
Inoue should not leave the Super Bantamweight without giving  Casimero a chance to prove that he deserves a chance or people will cast doubt and speculate and what could have been.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: coin-investor on January 21, 2024, 04:00:00 PM

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence, and if Spence beat Crawford he will lose his cash cow, the fight only push through when Bud was out of Arum's promotion.
The featherweight is loaded with a lot of superstars who can challenge him and give him a good fight, it will be interesting how he will pair with Navarette and if can he take his power in the Super featherweight just like Pacquiao did.
The featherweight is Inoue's real entry to greatness because this is where people will be interested to see if he has what it takes to be a superstar in that division.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: bittraffic on January 21, 2024, 04:13:46 PM

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: passwordnow on January 21, 2024, 06:21:24 PM
This is still gonna take time and we're not even sure if it's going to be locked in by the end of this year. Despite announcing early that there is the possibility, I wouldn't jump on that hope thinking that it is really gonna be. If we are on the official track and it is already by the books, then that's where we should celebrate and wait for the match to actually happen.

At this point, I remembered Pacman's fight when his opponent was replaced by another fighter at the very last minute before the fight happens. And that's why with such a long time of wait and patience, there are too many things and adjustments that can happen and it can be applicable to this. Whilst Inoue is the most sought fighter and champion today by many boxers, it's such a pleasure to be given the time and opportunity to be locked in as his opponent whoever is going to be the challenger.

The name of Casimero was only referenced by Inoue as part of his plans this year. Anyhow, it is just a plan, and no finality or agreement is made. Casimero was only referenced last in the list of boxers. Numerous boxers looked for a match with Inoue so everything could change in the plan.
Yes, he was mentioned and that's just a "possible" match as said. And that's why the hopes are there and preparation might be quick if it's going to be official because Inoue has a lot of line up for his match for this year. Still gonna depend on the decision and approval of Inoue's camp if they're going to give him a go signal to fight the monster but if not, Casimero just have to wait further.

As expectations are high for an Inoue match, Casimero can keep himself occupied and work on his ratings. He can match himself to boxers who are rated highly. Casimero can challenge Akhmadaliev and Goodman if Inoue and Nery already have a deal.
Yeah, he should just stop talking about Inoue and don't think of it as the only match that he can do for this year. Just as what Inoue is doing, he's going to box with other challengers and that's what he has to do and win some matches so that he'll be the first choice if he's ever gonna win those matches that he'll take.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 22, 2024, 01:42:08 AM
Inoue most likely won't give too much attention to Casimero anymore. Casimero has not proven anything so that he will get that opportunity to face Inoue. Had Casimero not wasted all those opportunities in the past and faced and powerfully defeated those opponents, he could have given that chance to fight Inoue.
In that case Casimero does not need to ask Inoue to give him a chance, instead, he will just focus on his fights and make an impressive win so he'll get his ranking improved. If Inoue will stay, he could be a mandatory challenger where Inoue won't need to decide anymore if he'll fight him or not since if he will not he'll get stripped with his belt, it would be okay if he'll move up since there's nothing to prove in the super bantanweight division anymore.

But he missed all of those and for very shallow reasons such as failing to make weight, violating guidelines, making trouble against the other party. He probably doesn't deserve Inoue as an opponent.
For now yeah.

Yes, I agree. I think the only way for Casimero to one day be given a chance to fight against Inoue is to become a worthy opponent. And there's no other way for him to reach that but by defeating everybody else until such a point when he will become Inoue's mandatory challenger. Other than this, Casimero can only call Inoue out and wish he's given the attention.

But time and age are not in Casimero's favor. He'll be 35 soon. And while Inoue is also entering the 30's, it is obvious that his performance doesn't look like he is about to soften a bit, unlike Casimero who looks a lot weaker than before.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: coin-investor on January 23, 2024, 04:59:10 PM

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.



Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Russlenat on January 27, 2024, 02:11:31 PM
There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.
We can't force him to go back to MP promotion, he is a man with his pride, he'll stand his decision. It's just that dissapointing that we aren't seen him winning impressively on his prior matches despite his opponent aren't really that strong, and the last time he fougtht, he seemed gas out, and that's why people doesn't believe anymore that he could beat Inoue with his kind of conditioning.

It's not too late for him, have one fight that he can beat his opponent vio KO and no contorversy, then his ranking might shoot up.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.


There's still plenty of time, we should not loss hope as Casimero is not losing his. However, if Inoue will opt to move, then this possible fight ain't happening  soon.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Dave1 on January 27, 2024, 05:38:23 PM

As for Arum's businesses, he would rather see Inoue keep winning as he can make money picking fighters of his choice. Since he already unified the 122 division, there is no reason for him to stay but he considers defending. There are so many fighters in the featherweight where he could make money too.


This is why I'm not too fond of Arum being Inoue's promoter he likes to cherry pick fight for fighters he managed like what happened to Crawford he badly wants Spence but Arum is overprotective of Crawford and he doesn't believe that he could beat Spence

The fight happens but they wanna make sure they can make money. Does Casimero going back to MP promotion make the fight possible?

Or will they have to wait up to 5-6 years til Casim is 40 yo before giving him the heads up? It's all their game when they want to make money. If they can't make money from the Casim vs Inoue fight because it's risky, then it's just going to be the waiting game til Casim isn't in his prime.


There is no news that he will go back to MP Promotions Casimero doesn't want to let go of his brother as his trainer even if his brother is getting a lot of negative feedback about the way he manages Casimero, and Casimero is too proud and has a lot pride he wants the MP Promotions to beg him to return, but I don't think the promotions will do that, its Casimero who needs MP promotions.

If the fight will not push this year, Casimero better forgets the Inoue fight, it's his chance to make a lot of money he's the one who blew his chance, while Inoue is doing great on his path to greatness.

Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Kelvinid on January 29, 2024, 11:43:52 AM
Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: avp2306 on January 29, 2024, 11:54:02 AM
Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hamphser on January 29, 2024, 11:59:31 AM
Right, we will not find any news of him going back to MP for sure, as he is already managed by a Japanese promoter. Of course, he will not let go of his brother as his trainer and that he is very proud of himself, as he is known to be that even inside the ring.

I think in this coming year, if he hasn't had his chance then he should look for any opponents or at least forget Inoue for the meantime. He is already great himself and being proud to be a former champion from the Philippines. Maybe if he forget about Inoue, his career will take a turn for good and who knows, and he become a mandatory champion for any of the belt that Inoue has.

This could not happen anytime soon as Inoue has some other business to take care of. However, there are rumors that Casimero could fight Tapales because these two has been trash talking each other and they have created some hype on the fight. It's not a championship fight since Tapales isn't a champion anymore, but this is good for the ranking of Casimero to increase if ever he wins the fight. Though this is just a rumor, but I believe this is a good fight that should happen soon.

It will not really happen anytime soon as Inoue have his own target fights and Casimero's name is not on radar also they are so clear regarding that they don't have any interest to fight Casimero anymore since they are not impressed with his performance or maybe they can't get anything for that fight.

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.
Are those rumors fake? Getting in line with the current 3 fighters that would really be on this year on which Nery is on the first list. I dont know if Casimero fight would push through but this one which tons of fans is really that anticipating for this fight.If we do speak about Casimero's fighting style and capacity then it isnt something that might be putting up Inoue to be interested on which we know that there arent some finalization about the list then we wont know if those fighters been mentioned are the ones to be followed for this particular year. If ever it is finalized then Casimero is already on the line but i highly
doubt that he would really be able to win against Inoue on which i could really say that its a bit far off when it comes ot Boxing IQ,technicalities and stamina i should say in compared to Casimero
but well this is just my own views though.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Viscore on January 29, 2024, 12:16:00 PM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.

If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: mirakal on January 29, 2024, 12:40:36 PM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.


Then I guess we should also create a Casimero vs Tapales speculation thread, since this fight( Inoue vs Casimero ) is unlikely to happen now that Inoue is fighting Nery. The only chance Casimero could fight Inoue is if he is next in line to Nery, but based on the ranking he isn't, and since Inoue mostly fights twice a year only, then Casimero's fight is not gonna happen this year.


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If Tapales will win, then the speculation about Inoue avoiding Casimero would become invalid.

There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Kelvinid on January 30, 2024, 10:49:05 AM
There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Quidat on February 02, 2024, 07:52:31 PM
There is no more discussion about Inoue vs Casimero if Tapales wins as that would say that Casimero has past his prime and he is not ready for a monster Inoue. Maybe that time Casimero will stop trash talking or criticizing Inoue because he know in himself that he isn't on the level of the monster.

Hopefully positive things will happen for Casimero and Inoue, so this fight will happen, maybe not this year, but could be next year.

That's not gonna happen because Casimero will not allow to lose against Tapales whom we all saw that his power is not enough to KO an opponent. Casimero is very confident now, and we witness in his previous fights that he really has power, sometimes he was just reckless that his fight would result to no contest. I hope this rumor will come into reality as we haven't seen Casimero fight yet this year, maybe it's too early but first quarter would be fine so Casimero can still prepare for another fight if it's not gonna be Inoue next.
Past his prime? I dont think that even into his Prime form or days it wont really be that still enough on beating up Inoue. Sorry to say but this dude is really just that only good for trashtalks.

Yes, he might have the power but he doesnt have the stamina and technicality on how he fights which is way far if we do compared out into Inoue's.
So if there are no talks about possible fight about Casimero against Inoue. Then how about those 3 boxers that Inoue will fight for this year?
Are those informations that not finalized? If it is, then it is really just that sad for Casimero fans out there.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 03, 2024, 02:10:58 AM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.
I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Jating on February 05, 2024, 11:31:18 AM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.
I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

That's his own opinion, as we also have ours in terms of what Tapales shows in that fight. He might think that he just want to survived or anything. But Tapales shows heart that time and even if he was knockdown early, he goes on and fight with his own pride as a Filipino and Casimero should take note of that.

And what you have said, you can also have your own opinion on him at his fight at 122 lbs and how brandish he can think that he can beat Inoue when it was just talk for now. We will see how he will do if there is a possible fight between the two. He should work his competition though, and give us what others says, a impressive win so that he the camp of Inoue will take notice of him and not like just using his mouth to trash talk his way to a fight with the current pound for pound fighter (at least for me).


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: stadus on February 05, 2024, 12:02:01 PM

Maybe the clearest fight to speculate is Casimero vs Tapales since this have more chances to happen and it already create a noise since both parties is open to set this fight to happen. We don't have date to speculate but for sure this is bound to happen since both of them have something to prove and also for now this is the biggest fight what Casimero can get so for sure he will pick up this match up.

This is a good fight to know who is the better fighter between the two because Casimero has criticized Tapales about not even competitng with Inoue as according to casimero he isn't throwing punches that could hurt Inoue. They want to make money? this should be the fight, but I think it will happen in the Philippines as they don't have a big market in the US, Filipinos will be happy, both fighters will receive a decent paycheck.
I don't know where Casimero or how he thinks that Tapales is not competing with Inoue when they have the fight. Obviously, Tapales is trying his best, he even has some good rounds to boot and hit Inoue. But Naoya chin is very strong that not even he hits him solidly, Inoue is just eating it. So it's not right for Casimero to criticized his fellow countryman just because he lost to Inoue. And with that, he could also be criticized with the way he is fighting at 122 lbs, two fights and we are not that impressive and it could be the reason why he may not get his fight with Inoue. Unless he wins impressively next, but still it will be Nery that will fight Inoue.

That's his own opinion, as we also have ours in terms of what Tapales shows in that fight. He might think that he just want to survived or anything. But Tapales shows heart that time and even if he was knockdown early, he goes on and fight with his own pride as a Filipino and Casimero should take note of that.

And what you have said, you can also have your own opinion on him at his fight at 122 lbs and how brandish he can think that he can beat Inoue when it was just talk for now. We will see how he will do if there is a possible fight between the two. He should work his competition though, and give us what others says, a impressive win so that he the camp of Inoue will take notice of him and not like just using his mouth to trash talk his way to a fight with the current pound for pound fighter (at least for me).

I'm sure everyone here saw the fight. Although Tapales have hit Inoue but it wasn't a solid shot, he was just trying to score and then defend so Inoue could not hit him back. However, what he was doing as a strategy doesn't help him as Inoue felt his power and thought he can handle the power of Tapales so in the later rounds Inoue is just attacking him.

Tapales is simply outwork by Inoue, he just doesn't have the speed to evade Inoue's attack, so maybe Tapales should have gambled and get more aggressive as for sure as long as he would hit Inoue, the latter would feel his power and might not bully him on the ring. There's no take two for this one, although he tried his bets but it wasn't enough and rematch is not needed anymore since it will only have the same result. So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Botnake on February 05, 2024, 01:47:51 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

For now this is just a rumor, we have to wait for the official announcement before we further discuss this with its dedicated thread. This Inoue vs Casimero fight is just also a rumor as Inoue is fighting Nery, and after that Inoue didn't officially announce on who he will fight next ( provided he wins).

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Dave1 on February 06, 2024, 12:21:10 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Finestream on February 06, 2024, 12:28:44 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Botnake on February 06, 2024, 01:40:45 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.
I could agree with that because it seems like casimero was the one that is blamed on why the fight didn't happen.
This was announce in 2022. 
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/1/23/21078189/naoya-inoue-john-riel-casimero-agreed-terms-april-25th-unification-espn-boxing-news

And I believe early in 2022 fights are already allowed, and at the same year Casimero was stripped with his title. If Inoue fight Casimero as soon as boxing are allowed, that could not happen anymore and we will know who is the better between the two. We would not be talking about that potential fight now.

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.
He is now the champion, he can play his card as he is the one dictating what's going to happen, and who he will fight with. Casimero being the mandatory challenger is not enough for him to secure a fight as Inoue could make a decision to move up.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Finestream on February 13, 2024, 07:26:14 AM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.
I could agree with that because it seems like casimero was the one that is blamed on why the fight didn't happen.
This was announce in 2022. 
https://www.badlefthook.com/2020/1/23/21078189/naoya-inoue-john-riel-casimero-agreed-terms-april-25th-unification-espn-boxing-news

And I believe early in 2022 fights are already allowed, and at the same year Casimero was stripped with his title. If Inoue fight Casimero as soon as boxing are allowed, that could not happen anymore and we will know who is the better between the two. We would not be talking about that potential fight now.


That was a disappoint fact, people were not happy with the action of Inoue's camp as they didn't make the fight resume. If it's postpone only, then that should have happen after everything was okay or back in business. However, they have other plans, they like to go on an easy route and they succeeded on that. Boxing is probably a game of mind as well, I mean, disregard what people say as long as there's an opportunity for an easy fight, that should be taken, and with that Inoue vs Casimero is likely not gonna happen.


Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.
He is now the champion, he can play his card as he is the one dictating what's going to happen, and who he will fight with. Casimero being the mandatory challenger is not enough for him to secure a fight as Inoue could make a decision to move up.
That's the another valid move to avoid Casimero. Inoue has all the reasons to move up as he already became an undisputed champion in the current division his reigning. But you know, people will continue to speculate, and that will not stop until Inoue gives Casimero that fight he wants ever since.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: btc_angela on February 13, 2024, 12:49:04 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.

Casimero made mistake but that wasn't the main reason why the fight didn't happen. Before that incident, Inoue could already fight Casimero if he wanted to because their fight was only postpone due to the pandemic, but when the pandemic is over, it seemed like he wasn't interested anymore.

Inoue will not fight Casimero, unless Casimero will become his mandatory challenger, and that's what Casimero has to work for now.

I think Inoue is still interested because Casimero has that one belt that he needs, perhaps it was due to the pandemic, but I think Casimero fought Duke Micah that time and defend his belt and Casimero is supposedly go to England and fight Butler. But there were a lot of complications in the part of Casimero already, and maybe the issue with his trainer or with MP or the weight itself.

Anyhow, I agree that if everything depends on Casimero right now. If he wanted to get the attention of Inoue, he will have to be the mandatory at least in one of the division. Perhaps being a ex-champion of WBO, this is the organization that Casimero will have a good chance to be work it out and go up in ranks and then become the #1 fighter in that division and become the mandatory.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Natalim on February 13, 2024, 02:15:20 PM
I think Inoue is still interested because Casimero has that one belt that he needs, perhaps it was due to the pandemic, but I think Casimero fought Duke Micah that time and defend his belt and Casimero is supposedly go to England and fight Butler. But there were a lot of complications in the part of Casimero already, and maybe the issue with his trainer or with MP or the weight itself.

That was a costly mistake Casimero did. If he didn't let that belt stripped, he could have fight Inoue for a unification bout, but things happen, he loss his belt and Inoue loss his interest on fighting Casimero too. It's like we were rob because we know that only Casimero could potentially give Inoue a good challenge, but Casimero loss on technicalities on the ranking requirement that is not eligible to fight the champ, just a bad fate for him.

Anyhow, I agree that if everything depends on Casimero right now. If he wanted to get the attention of Inoue, he will have to be the mandatory at least in one of the division. Perhaps being a ex-champion of WBO, this is the organization that Casimero will have a good chance to be work it out and go up in ranks and then become the #1 fighter in that division and become the mandatory.
That might happen if he wins his next fight, but it seems like there was no schedule for him yet. Waiting for too long is not good for Inoue as he still have a lot to achieve, and most likely he'll just move up instead.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: goaldigger on February 13, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.
If the team of Casimero really wants to fight Inoue at that time, they should urged Casimero to lose more weight but it looks like they also tolerate it.
Well, let's see if this fight will push through because I'm so eager to see a Filipino boxer to beat Inoue because this monster defeats every filipino boxers who are trying to beat him. Inoue is still at its peak and still young, hope that Casimero can counter this monster if ever.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Baofeng on February 15, 2024, 12:50:25 PM
So this Tapales vs Casimero is more exciting for me, can they make it into reality?

Fans are definitely wanting to see Casimero fight Inoue, they should be able to create a good trailer on the match as it's been hype until it slowly go down since Casimero wasn't able to bring his A game on his recent fights. However, the moment Inoue will say it's a go for Casimero, then this hype will suddenly spike as people already know this possible fighte, been rumored for years already.

Yes, we are eagerly waiting for this fight to happen and it almost did, if not for Casimero really derailing the fight itself going to sauna and having a hard time making the 122 lbs. And with that his opportunity was grab by Butler and we all know what happen to that fight as Butler was destroyed and the final piece on his belt, the WBO was grab by Inoue to complete the unification.

Now, if Casimero still want to proved that he can beat the Monster then give us a good fight and not just a performance that is weak that he can't even knockout two of his opponents in the 122 lbs.
If the team of Casimero really wants to fight Inoue at that time, they should urged Casimero to lose more weight but it looks like they also tolerate it.
Well, let's see if this fight will push through because I'm so eager to see a Filipino boxer to beat Inoue because this monster defeats every filipino boxers who are trying to beat him. Inoue is still at its peak and still young, hope that Casimero can counter this monster if ever.

Yes, but we should move forward already, he is a 122 lbs now and he want's to get a fight with Inoue. He doesn't need to lose weight or consider it as a issue right now because his first 2 fights as super bantamweight, he did make the weight.

But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Kelvinid on February 15, 2024, 03:03:57 PM
But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.

That hasn't happen yet for Casimero. The most valid evidence that he was really winning an impressive fights is if his ranking is improving, right now, his ranking wouldn't make him a mandatory challenger for Inoue, so if Inoue will choose him, it could be a special treatment or people might criticize Inoue for choosing a fighter with lower ranking instead of those at the top as his challenger.

Casimero needs to continue winning so he'll get a chance to square up with Inoue before the latter moves up.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Finestream on February 16, 2024, 07:46:39 AM
But as we have noted already, he needs to show he camp of Inoue, if he really deserves a fight.

Meaning, give us something a big win against a rank fighter in this division and maybe Inoue will give him his chance.

That hasn't happen yet for Casimero. The most valid evidence that he was really winning an impressive fights is if his ranking is improving, right now, his ranking wouldn't make him a mandatory challenger for Inoue, so if Inoue will choose him, it could be a special treatment or people might criticize Inoue for choosing a fighter with lower ranking instead of those at the top as his challenger.


Inoue can do that, and I don't think it's a special treatment if that would help sell tickets for the fight. Inoue has not given Casimero a chance yet since their last supposed fight cancellation, so it's high time for him to give one after he defeated all his mandatory opponents, so it can give people a peace of mind knowing who is the better between the two.

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Casimero needs to continue winning so he'll get a chance to square up with Inoue before the latter moves up.
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: goinmerry on February 16, 2024, 11:38:15 PM
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 16, 2024, 11:44:00 PM
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

so yeah, for his boxing fans, they should not be bitter with the turn of events because it is not in any way fault of inoue for not facing him or at least a priority for inoue's camp to settle the score between them. now, inoue is on a different level and i don't think casimero's camp is grasping this fact that it is no easy feat for casimero to have a match with inoue.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 16, 2024, 11:53:46 PM
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.
And that shows that he's too careless and at the same time he do have that kind of confidence on why he had messed up and this is something a behavior on which you shouldn't really be that tending to do
when you do have that upcoming match. This is why those are really indeed those missed opportunities on fight Inoue as one of those results. So its his mistake on really just that too confident
and some people do really hate up his trashtalker behavior. I dont know if this fight would really be pushed through or not. Is this fight arrangement final?


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: agustina2 on February 16, 2024, 11:56:58 PM
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

Casimero's team failed not ONCE but TWICE. It's not acceptable. First, the overweight issue and the Second, unaware of British Boxing Council terms. Maybe it's not his fault of becoming overweight but the being unaware of any Boxing terms in a country is bullshit.

It's sad to see Casimero slowly fading away on his prime. We should already see Inoue vs Casimero if they are not arrogant.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Viscore on February 19, 2024, 02:40:10 PM
This something wrong with his promoter as he hasn't been rumored getting a fight this year. If he is on the right promoter, they should know that creating hype this early would help sell the fight, but unfortunately there's no rumors yet as to who he'll fight next.

Don't blame his promoter but the whole team. They created the mess in the first place on why they end up in their current status.

They also tried to settle fights with top-ranked boxers, like for example with Nery, but these boxers didn't want to fight Casimero.

They should go again inking an agreement with a non popular boxer just for sake of being an active boxer.


well, casimero himself made this path for himself. if he was up to every fight way back, he should have already faced inoue before. but due to being overweight for his supposedly fight and other factors, some of his previous fights were canceled.

Casimero's team failed not ONCE but TWICE. It's not acceptable. First, the overweight issue and the Second, unaware of British Boxing Council terms. Maybe it's not his fault of becoming overweight but the being unaware of any Boxing terms in a country is bullshit.

That was a significant mistake they cannot undo. No excuses on that; they were aware, and yet they still violated the rules. It's called cheating, even though their intention was just to make the fight happen at the right weight. But they got caught, so they have to pay the price. However, there's no assurance yet that if Casimero did win that fight and kept the belt, Inoue would be up for a unification battle.

It's sad to see Casimero slowly fading away on his prime.

He hasn't proven anything yet in this division, unlike Inoue. Maybe if he could go back to the bantamweight division, he might reign, but it's uncertain if his body can still maintain the right weight. In the higher division he is currently in, he has had little chance to fight the best. Despite facing just mediocre boxers, he still could not dominate, and some of his fights ended in controversy. It's just unlucky, but I think he still hasn't passed his prime.

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We should already see Inoue vs Casimero if they are not arrogant.
I believe that isn't the main reason. Boxing is a business, and if promoters like a boxer who talks a lot, it can attract the attention of the fans, making it easier to market the event.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Oilacris on February 22, 2024, 10:08:31 PM
^ As for violation on something that should be known already or they could simply check it out, then it do really shows on how irresponsible they are or something it was intentional.

#Point 1 - Its true that Casimero didnt prove out something well into his division.Yes, he's also a champion but not really that much on having that impact
#Point 2 - Tons of trashtalks then it is really that making that so much noise and hype. The more hate the more views they could get. lol

Boxing is business and its not shocking that they would really be doing their very best on hyping it out as much as possible.
The higher the hype and interest the bigger the money that they could get.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: agustina2 on February 22, 2024, 10:42:56 PM
He hasn't proven anything yet in this division, unlike Inoue. Maybe if he could go back to the bantamweight division, he might reign, but it's uncertain if his body can still maintain the right weight. In the higher division he is currently in, he has had little chance to fight the best. Despite facing just mediocre boxers, he still could not dominate, and some of his fights ended in controversy. It's just unlucky, but I think he still hasn't passed his prime.

No way he should return in Bantamweight. It's the major cause of his weight concerns that's why he ended up moving up instead. He will just waste time maintaining the required weight on the 118 and then, in the end, be disqualified.

He's already fading mate and we should accept that. He's not on his usual performance where the aggressiveness is clearly shown. See his last fight against an unranked boxer where even his opponent's name doesn't ring a bell in the boxing world and came from a country that is not known for establishing a product of popular boxers in history?

Unlike before during the hype of their first supposed clash with Naoya Inoue in 2020, I feel that Casimero will beat Inoue. But now, Inoue is more improved and I don't think Casimero will win if they will face each other now. Inoue not only maintained his strength since that first supposed fight with Casimero but became more deadly as well. Casimero on the other hand, now experiencing the effect of being inactive for a long in a professional fight aside from weight issues.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: xLays on February 22, 2024, 10:54:15 PM
Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: btc_angela on February 23, 2024, 09:01:16 PM
Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

We will never know until they fight in the ring. And that's why we are intrigue in the match-up. Inoue is unbeatable at this point, in his prime and twice undisputed in two divisions. But Casimero keeps running his mouth that telling us that he can beat Inoue. And so we can say that he has the tools to do that, he has power, knocking almost everyone out in the 118 lbs and they almost collide a few years ago.

So at the back of our minds, we boxing fans still wanting to see this fight. Maybe some of us wanted to see Inoue getting beat up by this Filipino. Or Inoue knocking out this brandish Casimero and settle all the doubts about him.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Casdinyard on February 23, 2024, 10:59:37 PM
Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.
Exactly true. A lot of our fellow Filipinos are hungry to get the new Pacquiao or something and they’re pretty much vying for anyone out there would dare to try. Casimero’s got a good track record but Pacquiao is a once-in-a-lifetime instance which we may never even see again in the boxing ring. This fear and desperation of some fans to have the Philippines be cemented in boxing legacy’s what causes them to root on every single Filipino puncher out there, doesn’t matter if he’s even capable of standing his ground or not.

In any case, a case can still be made regarding the viability of this fight. Casimero’s got a lot to prove and much to gain after this fight, while Naoya’s innthe peak of his career and losing to someone barely known within the boxing scene internationally’s not gonna bode well for his career.

Honestly I’m just eager to see Inoue fight even more. The guy’s at his prime and we rarely see fighters like him here. For what it’s worth I’d personally be willing to see him beat up people while he’s still strong and powerful than calculate his fights and end up past his prime with little to prove for the world.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Oilacris on February 23, 2024, 11:20:59 PM
Only Filipino boxing fans want this fight to happen including me but I agree that Casimero is no match for Naoya Inoue but still want to see what will happen just in case this happens. I'm not a fan of Casimero especially his attitude far different compared to MP. He's so boastful. And I think Bob Arum will not risk Naoya Inoue's record for Casimero's record.

Yes boxing is a business at some point but the passion is still there. Manny Pacquiao the Filipino pride, gave his all fashion to boxing and made the whole Filipino nation proud. He's like an Asian Bolt in Jamaica.
Exactly true. A lot of our fellow Filipinos are hungry to get the new Pacquiao or something and they’re pretty much vying for anyone out there would dare to try. Casimero’s got a good track record but Pacquiao is a once-in-a-lifetime instance which we may never even see again in the boxing ring. This fear and desperation of some fans to have the Philippines be cemented in boxing legacy’s what causes them to root on every single Filipino puncher out there, doesn’t matter if he’s even capable of standing his ground or not.

In any case, a case can still be made regarding the viability of this fight. Casimero’s got a lot to prove and much to gain after this fight, while Naoya’s innthe peak of his career and losing to someone barely known within the boxing scene internationally’s not gonna bode well for his career.

Honestly I’m just eager to see Inoue fight even more. The guy’s at his prime and we rarely see fighters like him here. For what it’s worth I’d personally be willing to see him beat up people while he’s still strong and powerful than calculate his fights and end up past his prime with little to prove for the world.
There are several Filipino boxers who are already trying out to climb on the ladder but its true that Filipinos are really that rooting for the next boxing legend but it seems no one
would really be able to get that 8 division world champion as those other boxers from other countries do failed on doing so too. WE cant really be able to make those conclusions that they
cant be able to do such thing but we do know that there would really be chance on everything but for Casimero then i dont think that he could really go with the path on what
 Pacquiao had able to attain. I do rather believe that Inoue would but since he's another nationality then it doesnt really count.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: coin-investor on February 24, 2024, 02:54:06 PM
This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Viscore on February 24, 2024, 03:16:46 PM
This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.


We were wrong; we thought that Ancajas was there to steal the belt of Takuma, but it turns out he was KO since he was too huge in the fight and might not have good conditioning. These are just excuses, though; we should give credit to the champion for making good preparation for the fight. He deserves this win, and we can see that he is not a dirty fighter.

For some of us who worried that the judges might manipulate the outcome, that wasn't a factor since the fight ended up in KO. Even if it didn't end up in KO, it was very obvious that Ancajas is not landing solid shots, and he would lose.

Now, we can only cheer for this Casimero vs Inoue fight to happen as our boxers are slowly going down.


Title: Re: Inoue vs Casimero (possible fight in 2024) Let's discuss!
Post by: Hirose UK on February 24, 2024, 04:40:57 PM
This is a bad night in boxing for the Filipinos two prominent Filipino fighters just lost tonight against two Japanese fighters, Sultan against Matsuda via first-round knockout, and Ancajas against Takuma Inoue, and every Filipino is now calling Casimero to step up and fight for a title against a Japanese possibly against Naoya Inoue, there is a call now that Casimero, and MP promotion to resolve their issues and make a deal for Inoue to fight him this year.

This fight may eventually happen because some of the prominent names in Philippine boxing are losing one by one, the one remaining now is Mark Magsayo but Magsayo is not Manny Pacquiao and he is in a division that is loaded with great boxers like Navarette, Lopez and Joe Cordina this is a tough time for Filipino boxers, there was a time that there were 5 Filipino World Champions, now there is none.
In Filipino boxing, the ones who can really be the hope at the moment are actually Tapales and Casimero, but Tapales himself was defeated by Inoue last year and the hope is only on Casimero side to be able to fight with Inoue and try to fight for the championship belt.
But I not sure that their fight will actually be held soon because Inoue himself will probably move up division to be able to get more titles in different division, it just that Casimero is more likely to really want to be able to face Inoue.
Moreover, Inoue has succeeded in getting 4 main belt titles in the two classes he has managed to master, when he faces Casimero he will not get anything more valuable and when he loses he will only feel regret.
Previously there had been many rumors circulating about their fight but Inoue seemed to be avoiding this fight.

Currently, Filipino boxers are really can't be expected, in the sense that no one can be seen as really strong and able to win more championship titles like Manny Pacquiao who was able to take seven belts from each different class.
Maybe there will never be another Filipino boxer like him.