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Title: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kasabus on January 01, 2024, 10:35:02 AM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: samcrypto on January 01, 2024, 10:41:17 AM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Oilacris on January 01, 2024, 10:43:46 AM
2024 you say.?  :)

I was supposed to say about having fight with Buakaw but its been clarified that this fight would happen first before Mayweather 2. I dont know about this possibility of
Mayweather on fighting against Pacquiao on second time around on which we've seen that Mayweather doesnt have that interested on having a round 2 but it
seems that there's a huge money sharing on this one to make this happen again.

Exhibition fights are really that indeed now their way of making money since they have retired. So i dont really expect that much when it comes to fight performances
but still an interesting fight for us to look upon though.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bakasabo on January 01, 2024, 10:53:40 AM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Or this can be one of the biggest upsets for the year of 2024. Here is why I think that - these two are already old. Of course they are still better than majority of boxers of their weight class, but if they come to ring today, they wont be the same boxers they used to be. They wont be able to show 100% of what they are capable of. They are no longer in peak form. People will watch their fight only to watch their favorite boxer fight again, but not to find out who is better.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Dave1 on January 01, 2024, 11:00:35 AM
I saw it in social media but I haven't look at it, and the subject says that Manny is teasing Floyd for a exhibition matches.

But we have Manny fighting Buakaw first this year and I'm not familiar if Floyd will have another exhibitions match, although it could be a rematch with Gotti this February? So let's see, maybe at the end of the 2024, this two is going to face each other in Japan for the biggest exhibition fights ever.

And obviously, it's a money fight for this two, they can still milk it out even if both of them have retired.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: m2017 on January 01, 2024, 11:01:24 AM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.
Professional sports are increasingly turning into a soap opera: former champions either leave the big sport, then return again for a portion of money exhibition fights similar to show business. The best years of these guys are already behind them and they have to make money as best they can, because the hype around them thanks to their past achievements still persists.

There was a lot of hype around their last fight, but that fight was very far from the best that happened on the world boxing stage. This fight will probably be the same - a lot of noise, but a boring and uninteresting fight. At a time when Pacquiao could demonstrate the highest level of boxing, Mayweather avoided it in every possible way. Mayweather will win again, you'll see.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Distinctin on January 01, 2024, 11:01:53 AM
I knew that they were cooking something. Just recently I read some articles regarding this fight (Pacman vs Mayweather II), so I was optimistic that it could happen anytime soon, and since we just entered 2024, this could be possible this year.

Maybe some would think that they need more time to prepare. That's not the case actually since this is just an exhibition fight, there's no bearing on their professional record, and even if Mayweather were to loss this fight, he would remain undefeated per his prof record.

This fight is already due, but sadly both retired before this fight will happen. Anyway, it's still good though, at least we will see some serious exhibition fight between two legends, and it's sure worth to pay for, as long as Mayweather would not just run in the entire fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: hyudien on January 01, 2024, 11:02:48 AM
The last thing I knew regarding Pacman, he seemed to want to retire after running for office as a political figure, but I didn't really follow him until now. It turns out he returned to the ring and made a debut that hasn't entertained us for a long time. Yes, as many people have said, this fight is for no other reason than to raise more money because it is clear that all the spectators will be very interested, even though behind the scenes there may be an agreement. Pacman on the field makes me nostalgic so if a fight happens I will happily watch it.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: danherbias07 on January 01, 2024, 11:40:07 AM
There's no assurance that it could become the biggest entertainment fight of the year but I bet many will watch this. Manny Pacquiao has so many fans, especially in his own country, the Philippines. I will definitely support Manny here and I want to see if he still have those big punches that could shake Mayweather.
The upset here is if Mayweather plays the same way as he did against him. I know it's just for an exhibition match but it's not fun to see a boxer who just keeps on dodging and not even trying to box. I mean, we have seen Mike Tyson so upset with how Mayweather performs and many Filipinos also don't like what happened back then. There's not much action because of the clinch and dodge strategy. I love it more when Manny is up against front fighters who will test whose chin is stronger.
Anyway, I hope this will be a successful one. Both are big names in the industry but I am still hoping for some good action.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Baofeng on January 01, 2024, 11:50:31 AM
The last thing I knew regarding Pacman, he seemed to want to retire after running for office as a political figure, but I didn't really follow him until now. It turns out he returned to the ring and made a debut that hasn't entertained us for a long time. Yes, as many people have said, this fight is for no other reason than to raise more money because it is clear that all the spectators will be very interested, even though behind the scenes there may be an agreement. Pacman on the field makes me nostalgic so if a fight happens I will happily watch it.

He did one exhibition fight against a South Korean Youtube influencer, so he didn't retire for good, he still loves boxing and he has involved himself with his MP company that promotes mostly Filipino boxers and give them the chance to win belts.

I think this is possible, they could have been talking about this fight for a long time now, But first Manny will have to win against Buakaw, I open a thread about it.

And Floyd is relling  for a John Gotti Jr rematch, the fight ended in controversy and so it created a hype so this fight is scheduled February if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: ultrloa on January 01, 2024, 11:51:13 AM
I created a thread similar to this discussion before https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468859.msg62932569#msg62932569

But all of it still became a rumor. But since Pacquiao release a statement regarding on their possible match up which can be found on this article https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/pacquiao-announces-exhibition-boxing-match-floyd-mayweather-2024/

We can say that this rumored fight have a chance to happen.

But there's no confirmation on the side of Mayweather yet since maybe they are negotiating the price. But since tis rumored now came from Pacquiao I guess by this year we can see the fight between Pacquiao vs Mayweather will happen this year.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Natalim on January 01, 2024, 12:07:33 PM
And Floyd is relling  for a John Gotti Jr rematch, the fight ended in controversy and so it created a hype so this fight is scheduled February if I'm not mistaken.

Just like Pacquiao, he also had an scheduled fight with Buakaw, so both of them needs to finish their fight with a win, who knows we will see this fight by the 2nd half of this year, or could be earlier. Pacman would not release a statement if he wasn't sure with it, it's not good for his reputation though, so let's believe that what he said had some truth and we will witness this anticipated fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: PokerBetting on January 01, 2024, 12:13:32 PM
have lost momentum, both are old and have no title belts.
The first match of the fight was actually a bit too late because they were no longer young and were not at the peak of their performance.
especially now that they are both old and don't have championship belts.
just entertainment and interesting spectacle


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 01, 2024, 12:42:47 PM
And Floyd is relling  for a John Gotti Jr rematch, the fight ended in controversy and so it created a hype so this fight is scheduled February if I'm not mistaken.
Just like Pacquiao, he also had an scheduled fight with Buakaw, so both of them needs to finish their fight with a win, who knows we will see this fight by the 2nd half of this year, or could be earlier. Pacman would not release a statement if he wasn't sure with it, it's not good for his reputation though, so let's believe that what he said had some truth and we will witness this anticipated fight.

i believe he has the go signal to give such announcement. i don't think he will just prank his boxing fans for something that has no chance of happening in the near future. if this exhibition fight is marketed right, they can get a huge amount of money from this. maybe cashing out from most recent professional boxing bouts. they have their own loyal followers up until now, so there are a lot of them still waiting to see both inside the ring one more time. even if there's no belt on the line.

have lost momentum, both are old and have no title belts.
The first match of the fight was actually a bit too late because they were no longer young and were not at the peak of their performance.
especially now that they are both old and don't have championship belts.
just entertainment and interesting spectacle

don't underestimate their influence among boxing fans. even if there's no belt and just an exhibition fight, am sure a lot will pay for the tickets just to see them both inside the ring. but we don't know their internal arrangements here. i hope both will fight toe-to-toe and not running inside round after round. but knowing mayweather, he will not ruin his record and be technical again. and hopefully, the proceeds will be given to something important and not just pocketing all the money here.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: stadus on January 01, 2024, 12:47:35 PM
have lost momentum, both are old and have no title belts.
The first match of the fight was actually a bit too late because they were no longer young and were not at the peak of their performance.
especially now that they are both old and don't have championship belts.
just entertainment and interesting spectacle

But this still create a hype somehow.

By the names of these two legends,it's almost instant that people will watch their fight. The exhibition era has already born, popular celebrities in sports have an opportunity after their pro to still make money, and this is it for Pacman and Mayweather.

As to the cut, I think this deserves a 50/50, however if Mayweather would insist that he'll get the bigger share, it's still fine with 60/40 as long as Manny is not greedy. Besides, it's a sure thing that they'll make a lot of money on this "exhibition fight".


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kemarit on January 01, 2024, 12:52:46 PM
have lost momentum, both are old and have no title belts.
The first match of the fight was actually a bit too late because they were no longer young and were not at the peak of their performance.
especially now that they are both old and don't have championship belts.
just entertainment and interesting spectacle

I'm not sure where have you been in the last years or so, but you know that both of them have retired right? So obviously there will be no belts for them and for this fight as this is a exhibition fights.

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An exhibition fight is a sports match which is not part of a competition but instead serves the function of demonstrating the skills of the participants.[1] In boxing, an exhibition fight normally consists of three to eight rounds. The participants generally wear larger gloves to minimize punch harm or impact on the combatants, headgear, and non-boxing related clothing. Exhibition fights involve opponents exhibiting their skills while usually being friendly and respectful.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight

So yes, this is just for entertainment purposes, but still they have a huge fan based so for sure this is going to be a hit and might even compete for those boxing PPV fights for next year.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: arwin100 on January 01, 2024, 12:53:13 PM
And Floyd is relling  for a John Gotti Jr rematch, the fight ended in controversy and so it created a hype so this fight is scheduled February if I'm not mistaken.

Just like Pacquiao, he also had an scheduled fight with Buakaw, so both of them needs to finish their fight with a win, who knows we will see this fight by the 2nd half of this year, or could be earlier. Pacman would not release a statement if he wasn't sure with it, it's not good for his reputation though, so let's believe that what he said had some truth and we will witness this anticipated fight.

Exactly so for sure there's early negotiation happening between his camp and Mayweather's camp that's why he release such good statement about this potential match up. Their promoter is really doing all they can to make this fight to happen since this will be a big hit for them if they can make Mayweather agree and make this exhibition fight to happen.

I know there's a lot of boxing fans around the world like this fight to happen since to many people speculates or keep debating about who is more better than them. For sure there's lot of hypes will be created on this match since this is a long years waited by fans to happen since many people want to see Pacquiao wins against Mayweather also their are Mayweather fans want to shutdown those doubt and make Mayweather is more better than Pacquiao.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 01, 2024, 01:00:09 PM
This going to be an exhibition match? It is surprising because I thought Pacquiao wanted to go into politics since he was already done with his professional boxxing career. I doubt he is training anymore with that "professional career pressure" and since there is nothing at stake. It has been 7 years since Mayweather left the professional ring and 3 since Pacman left it. At this point, they are not really in any shape to give us an exciting fight. 9 years ago I would be excited for the fight. But the upcoming exhibition match is kind of ...Meh. Although I am still going to watch it, regardless. ::)


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Maslate on January 01, 2024, 01:06:51 PM
This going to be an exhibition match? It is surprising because I thought Pacquiao wanted to go into politics since he was already done with his professional boxxing career. I doubt he is training anymore with that "professional career pressure" and since there is nothing at stake. It has been 7 years since Mayweather left the professional ring and 3 since Pacman left it. At this point, they are not really in any shape to give us an exciting fight. 9 years ago I would be excited for the fight. But the upcoming exhibition match is kind of ...Meh. Although I am still going to watch it, regardless. ::)

This is an exhibition match, both would not come back anymore in professional boxing as that's too risky for them, especially for Mayweather who wanted to keep his undefeated record as his legacy in boxing.

Although they had retired, I think they are still active in boxing, at least training on their own to keep them in shape.

In fact, these two boxers had fought different opponent already after retirement, most especially Mayweather who has been traveling and fighting for an easy money. For sure this one isn't easy for Mayweather, but both would make easy money.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: robelneo on January 01, 2024, 01:24:59 PM
This is bound to happen because both fighters show no sign of slowing down, Mayweather has been busy doing a lot of exhibitions and Manny Pacquiao follows, and why not It is easy money for both legendary fighters, they are making money without too much pressure because there's no title at stake and it will not reflect on their respective records.

Finally, a rematch should have happened when they were both active but you know Mayweather will only agree with a rematch against an easy opponent, after this match who knows Marquez will come out of retirement and do an exhibition against Manny Pacquiao, there's a lot of money to be made on legends and hall of famers exhibition matches.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: blockman on January 01, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
It seems that Pacquiao is loaded with matches this 2024. Looking at his perspective, this is literally a prosperous new year for him. Whilst for both of them, there is nothing to prove anymore on their ends. This is an exhibition and if Pacquiao wins on this match, Floyd will just say it is fine and it is an exhibition but will he allow that to happen since he is undefeated and I think that even with this type of match, he is serious about it. IMHO, both are winners when these matches comes because they will baghold sums of money in here as they are still in demand and they have global fans that are willing to watch and wait for this match. I want to see Pacquiao win even for this exhibition because for sure that he is too eager to beat Floyd even with just honor that is on stake and about the share, I guess it is still Floyd that has a larger cut for the sales.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kelward on January 01, 2024, 01:56:08 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Or this can be one of the biggest upsets for the year of 2024. Here is why I think that - these two are already old. Of course they are still better than majority of boxers of their weight class, but if they come to ring today, they wont be the same boxers they used to be. They wont be able to show 100% of what they are capable of. They are no longer in peak form. People will watch their fight only to watch their favorite boxer fight again, but not to find out who is better.

Indeed both won't be in the form that they were when they had their fight, but that will not take anything away from the fight to be one of the greatest sports event of this year. Their fight was one of the epics in the boxing history, so I believe that this coming fight can live up to expectations, because fans will want to know how the rivalry will turn out , whether Pacquiao, will redeem his image and win or Mayweather, will finally retire in glory as a true undisputed world champion. Although I don't mind Mayweather, losing this one, so the boxing world will yet see a trilogy of their rivalry match, because I just love the thrills of seeing these two legends in the ring, even if it's exhibition matches.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on January 01, 2024, 02:16:15 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Or this can be one of the biggest upsets for the year of 2024. Here is why I think that - these two are already old. Of course they are still better than majority of boxers of their weight class, but if they come to ring today, they wont be the same boxers they used to be. They wont be able to show 100% of what they are capable of. They are no longer in peak form. People will watch their fight only to watch their favorite boxer fight again, but not to find out who is better.
I believe that it is too early to claim this as the most significant upset until we have witnessed the fight. While I may not be a fan of Mayweather, I appreciate his defensive skills in a boxing match. However, he may still resort to hugging and running during the match. Regardless, I am looking forward to an intense and exciting match for both fighters. I hope that Manny Pacquiao emerges victorious, giving him a chance for a final rematch and making it a more thrilling experience for all boxing enthusiasts.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: aioc on January 01, 2024, 02:18:41 PM
It seems that Pacquiao is loaded with matches this 2024. Looking at his perspective, this is literally a prosperous new year for him. Whilst for both of them, there is nothing to prove anymore on their ends. This is an exhibition and if Pacquiao wins on this match, Floyd will just say it is fine and it is an exhibition but will he allow that to happen since he is undefeated and I think that even with this type of match, he is serious about it. IMHO, both are winners when these matches comes because they will baghold sums of money in here as they are still in demand and they have global fans that are willing to watch and wait for this match. I want to see Pacquiao win even for this exhibition because for sure that he is too eager to beat Floyd even with just honor that is on stake and about the share, I guess it is still Floyd that has a larger cut for the sales.

The Buakaw fight is just coming soon and here Pacquiao is talking about the Mayweather fight, and so is Mayweather the Gotti fight is not yet happening and now he is booked to fight Pacquiao, people will be more interested in this fight than any exhibition fight that happens in the past, and that includes all the Paul brother fights.
In the past when a boxer retires he will just manage boxers or set up a gym so he can continue to practice his boxing skills, but not anymore now, if you're a popular champion who just retired you can still make money from doing exhibition matches.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: blockman on January 01, 2024, 04:18:48 PM
It seems that Pacquiao is loaded with matches this 2024. Looking at his perspective, this is literally a prosperous new year for him. Whilst for both of them, there is nothing to prove anymore on their ends. This is an exhibition and if Pacquiao wins on this match, Floyd will just say it is fine and it is an exhibition but will he allow that to happen since he is undefeated and I think that even with this type of match, he is serious about it. IMHO, both are winners when these matches comes because they will baghold sums of money in here as they are still in demand and they have global fans that are willing to watch and wait for this match. I want to see Pacquiao win even for this exhibition because for sure that he is too eager to beat Floyd even with just honor that is on stake and about the share, I guess it is still Floyd that has a larger cut for the sales.

The Buakaw fight is just coming soon and here Pacquiao is talking about the Mayweather fight, and so is Mayweather the Gotti fight is not yet happening and now he is booked to fight Pacquiao, people will be more interested in this fight than any exhibition fight that happens in the past, and that includes all the Paul brother fights.
In the past when a boxer retires he will just manage boxers or set up a gym so he can continue to practice his boxing skills, but not anymore now, if you're a popular champion who just retired you can still make money from doing exhibition matches.
Yeah, I think that the announcement of Pacquiao was more of he is determined on which fight people should await for. Though, he wants people to watch his upcoming fight but he just released a teaser of his another fight in line which is significant since the eyes and ears of the boxing world is with him once again. Look at how effective he was when the match of Tapales and Inoue was still fresh when he suddenly releases his two fights for this year. Well, Pacman is not just a boxing legend but also a good businessman.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: electronicash on January 01, 2024, 05:16:57 PM

so this is why Conor also wants to insert himself to want to fight Pacquiao. Manny however doesn't want to meet Conor's weight.

Pacquiao would likely prefer Mayweather also since they already fought before and I guess with this exhibition they can show off again who still has it. Floyd still is one of the best in boxing and depending on where this fight will take place, they can make more money than with Conor.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bakasabo on January 01, 2024, 05:26:18 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Or this can be one of the biggest upsets for the year of 2024. Here is why I think that - these two are already old. Of course they are still better than majority of boxers of their weight class, but if they come to ring today, they wont be the same boxers they used to be. They wont be able to show 100% of what they are capable of. They are no longer in peak form. People will watch their fight only to watch their favorite boxer fight again, but not to find out who is better.
I believe that it is too early to claim this as the most significant upset until we have witnessed the fight. While I may not be a fan of Mayweather, I appreciate his defensive skills in a boxing match. However, he may still resort to hugging and running during the match. Regardless, I am looking forward to an intense and exciting match for both fighters. I hope that Manny Pacquiao emerges victorious, giving him a chance for a final rematch and making it a more thrilling experience for all boxing enthusiasts.

Not an upset, but Mayweather will be 47, Pacquiao 45, when their prime fights were when they were 34-36 years old. What can we expect when they are no longer in best competitive form? Imo they wont be doing their best to show who is the best among them, as they have already proved to everyone what they are worth. Mayweather is doing exhibition fights last years, Pacquiao was into basketball and political career. Imo they are not professional boxers anymore, but are money makers.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Rufsilf on January 01, 2024, 05:54:36 PM
The upcoming boxing match between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao is sure to be the talk of the town.  Many people will undoubtedly watch the fight because it excites them, and many more will watch TV only to see their favorite boxers face off. Given that they had already fought each other up and were both well-known boxers. Potentially, a Pacquiao vs. Mayweather rematch would offer an intriguing betting opportunity for us bettors. Even though it was only an exhibition fight, I think their abilities, experiences, and individual strategies would make for a fascinating and challenging matchup.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on January 01, 2024, 08:32:01 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Or this can be one of the biggest upsets for the year of 2024. Here is why I think that - these two are already old. Of course they are still better than majority of boxers of their weight class, but if they come to ring today, they wont be the same boxers they used to be. They wont be able to show 100% of what they are capable of. They are no longer in peak form. People will watch their fight only to watch their favorite boxer fight again, but not to find out who is better.
I believe that it is too early to claim this as the most significant upset until we have witnessed the fight. While I may not be a fan of Mayweather, I appreciate his defensive skills in a boxing match. However, he may still resort to hugging and running during the match. Regardless, I am looking forward to an intense and exciting match for both fighters. I hope that Manny Pacquiao emerges victorious, giving him a chance for a final rematch and making it a more thrilling experience for all boxing enthusiasts.

Not an upset, but Mayweather will be 47, Pacquiao 45, when their prime fights were when they were 34-36 years old. What can we expect when they are no longer in best competitive form? Imo they wont be doing their best to show who is the best among them, as they have already proved to everyone what they are worth. Mayweather is doing exhibition fights last years, Pacquiao was into basketball and political career. Imo they are not professional boxers anymore, but are money makers.

As fans, we're excited about an upcoming boxing rematch. Even though both fighters aren't in their prime anymore, this fight has generated a lot of anticipation and hype. We're eager to see them go head-to-head again because their last fight left us wanting more. Even though they're no longer active professional boxers, their past records and achievements still hold significant value in our minds. We're not just excited about the two fighters but also about their rivalry. This rematch will likely be a crucial part of the story of their rivalry, which needs to be explored further. I respect your opinion, but I believe that, as viewers, we need to see more of this rivalry, and this fight will give us that opportunity.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bitvalak on January 01, 2024, 09:03:49 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


Quote
Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/
It's an attractive exhibition match because of the potential to make more money, but it should still be given more appreciation because it increases people's interest in the sport of boxing.
I doubt Mayweather's physique because he does too much nightlife than Pacquiao. But once again this is an exhibition match which will probably show more of the entertainment side.

In fact, I now hear that Pacquiao has turned into a professional billiards athlete in his country, the Philippines.
He should have enjoyed enough without getting himself battered in the boxing ring  :D


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: BitcoinPanther on January 01, 2024, 09:08:33 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.

I do not know if this is really one of the biggest match for this year.  Both are already retired and is doing exhibition for money.  I do not thing that there is anything at stake here so I don't consider this a a big fight.

Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

I think Mayweather has the advantage now.  Since Manny is already old and way past his prime, so his punches and movement is not that crisp like before unlike the defence of Mayweather that will never grow old.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: dothebeats on January 01, 2024, 09:39:00 PM
Pacquiao has been wanting to get a fight for years, and it's only in Mayweather that he wants to get that itch scratched. If it's an exhibition game, I'm pretty sure these two will still not hold back and just get it done with. My money is on Pacquiao with this one, even though we know Floyd is just so good in defense. Hopefully this materializes and we have something to watch in the summer.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: wheelz1200 on January 01, 2024, 09:43:08 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.
Professional sports are increasingly turning into a soap opera: former champions either leave the big sport, then return again for a portion of money exhibition fights similar to show business. The best years of these guys are already behind them and they have to make money as best they can, because the hype around them thanks to their past achievements still persists.

There was a lot of hype around their last fight, but that fight was very far from the best that happened on the world boxing stage. This fight will probably be the same - a lot of noise, but a boring and uninteresting fight. At a time when Pacquiao could demonstrate the highest level of boxing, Mayweather avoided it in every possible way. Mayweather will win again, you'll see.

Agreed as an avid boxing fan this is sad these exhibition matches.  Just retire and be done with your boxing career.  It's a bad look when you are well past your prime and get back into the ring.  It's not like either of them 2 need the money as well.  No clue what angle they are trying for here.  Was a fan of Floyd's boxing skills and want to remember him when he was good not old man exhibition floyd.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: acroman08 on January 01, 2024, 09:48:52 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

that's good to hear, despite it being an exhibition match, I am excited because at least two great boxers are the ones who are going to do it, and not just a boxer wannabe and a dude who has no experience in the sport.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.
with proper marketing and hype, it could really well be. pretty sure both Mayweather and Pacquiao fans and people who have been waiting for these two boxers to fight again would look forward to this fight


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Sanugarid on January 01, 2024, 10:12:58 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


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Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/

I'm sure there will be a lot of viewers, especially in the Philippines, because we know that they are both old, but we are excited to see what will happen inside the ring. I also want to know if
Pacman's punches are still the same as before.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Davidvictorson on January 01, 2024, 10:36:15 PM
I have a bad feeling about this and I think that Floyd is about to make a huge mistake by Floyd. He might get his first loss of his career. Considering his age, his reflexes are not as they used to be when he was younger. During his time, what separated him from the rest was his defensive, reflexes, boxing IQ, and power. On the other hand, I didn't like that Manny announced the fight by himself. I am waiting for Floyd own announcement on this.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Saisher on January 01, 2024, 11:44:39 PM


For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


It's going to break a record that's for sure, these two legendaries have solid followers, and even if there are no titles at stake and it's an exhibition match they have unfinished business, on their first fight although Pacquiao did not make an excuse, his right hand was broken that limited his movement against Mayweather now Manny has a chance to get it even.
Both fighters are still in top shape I hope both legends will get past their respective opponents before their coming fight and nothing will stop that exhibition fight from happening.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: coin-investor on January 02, 2024, 04:57:40 AM
There's a possibility that they can make the same sales as they did when they first met, these two are still active in doing exhibitions, and people will watch it out of curiosity, out of those boxers who retired these two fighters proved that they are not yet done with boxing.

I'm sure people will watch this because these two boxers are still as popular as they are still relevant in fact if they want they can make a comeback I'm rooting for Pacquiao to beat Mayweather if not for those broken arms he could have beaten Mayweather, anyway this is an exhibition fight and no title is at stake, so they are here just to enjoy and at the same time make money not every fighter can do this, make money while retired in active boxing.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: yazher on January 02, 2024, 06:10:59 AM
This is bound to happen because both fighters show no sign of slowing down, Mayweather has been busy doing a lot of exhibitions and Manny Pacquiao follows, and why not It is easy money for both legendary fighters, they are making money without too much pressure because there's no title at stake and it will not reflect on their respective records.


They really should do this and since exhibition matches are popular nowadays, they will be given huge payment here and they can make a huge amount of money because they were the most favorite rivals in their era and their fight was close but didn't go well for Pacquiao as he had suffered injuries in his shoulder that time. Now is the right time to prove it but since this is just an exhibition fight, they only use it and take advantage of current situations where they can really promote themselves and make huge profit out of it.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bisdak40 on January 02, 2024, 07:50:55 AM
I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.

I don't think that this exhibition fight if ever pushed through will break PPV record. This fight will not be competitive as this will be an exhibition match and the rounds will be limited so how can boxing fans enjoy this show?

Also, I doubt if Mayweather will take the bait as he always protects that zero in his record even though if he just plays in exhibition fights.

I'm not a fan of exhibition fights in boxing and to be honest, I didn't watch Pacquaio fight that Korean martial arts fighter.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bakasabo on January 02, 2024, 08:23:22 AM
They made up making the same sales as they did when they first met, these two are still active in doing exhibitions, and people will watch it out of curiosity out of those boxers who retired these two fighters proved that they are not yet done with boxing.

I'm sure people will watch this because these two boxers are still as popular as they are still relevant in fact if they want they can make a comeback I'm rooting for Pacquiao to beat Mayweather if not for those broken arms he could have beaten Mayweather, anyway this is an exhibition fight and no title is at stake, so they are here just to enjoy and at the same time make money not every fighter can do this, make money while retire.

Somehow I think their exhibition fight will end with a draw. Like it has happened with Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. exhibition fight. Even though that fight has good PPV sales, boxers did not show what everyone was expecting from them. We expected KO from Tyson, speed from Jones, but we got clinch from Jones and lots of slow overhands from Tyson. The whole fight did not have that spirit of a competition. Just two former great boxers in the ring. They wanted to win, but were too much cautious not to get hurt.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: virasisog on January 02, 2024, 08:39:50 AM
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Somehow I think their exhibition fight will end with a draw. Like it has happened with Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr. exhibition fight.

I doubt it would as we know Mayweather likes to keep his records clean because that is his legacy. I'm not a fan of Mayweather fight as you will see a lot of hugging and running, nothing that explosive. I'm sure they'll earn a lot from this fight again as many people would like to see a rematch. Both of the are already retired and not in their peak, but it would be great if even if it's an exhibit match to see Pacquiao getting his revenge on Mayweather. I knew their rematch would come soon and many people would like to see these two legends clash.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bakasabo on January 02, 2024, 08:57:06 AM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 02, 2024, 09:39:35 AM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?
As long as the money is good I think Floyd will go for it. It must be reasonable though, and half a billion seems preposterous, it should be logical that him and Pacquaio can still earn a lot of money and then they preserved their health as this is a Floyd mantra, "health comes first".

I also doubt that it will $100 will be the PPV price, again, it should be reasonable, we have seen fights this year around $70++ and I think they will stick to this kind of numbers. But let's see, both have separate fight first to do this year.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: ultrloa on January 02, 2024, 09:45:20 AM
It seems that Pacquiao is loaded with matches this 2024. Looking at his perspective, this is literally a prosperous new year for him. Whilst for both of them, there is nothing to prove anymore on their ends. This is an exhibition and if Pacquiao wins on this match, Floyd will just say it is fine and it is an exhibition but will he allow that to happen since he is undefeated and I think that even with this type of match, he is serious about it. IMHO, both are winners when these matches comes because they will baghold sums of money in here as they are still in demand and they have global fans that are willing to watch and wait for this match. I want to see Pacquiao win even for this exhibition because for sure that he is too eager to beat Floyd even with just honor that is on stake and about the share, I guess it is still Floyd that has a larger cut for the sales.

The Buakaw fight is just coming soon and here Pacquiao is talking about the Mayweather fight, and so is Mayweather the Gotti fight is not yet happening and now he is booked to fight Pacquiao, people will be more interested in this fight than any exhibition fight that happens in the past, and that includes all the Paul brother fights.
In the past when a boxer retires he will just manage boxers or set up a gym so he can continue to practice his boxing skills, but not anymore now, if you're a popular champion who just retired you can still make money from doing exhibition matches.

Maybe at early this year they already have negotiation about this match up and they have good insights that Mayweather would agree since Pacquiao already said that match will going to happen. For sure he will not release that statement if there's no discussion happened for both camp so this is really more exciting since many people want this match up to happen since they have unfinished business that need to settle since their fans keep debating on who is more stronger than them. Pacquiao fans is not done yet with certain discussion even if Pacquiao lose on their first meet up since they are not been impressed for the result shown. But know maybe it can seal the long time discussion and both of them can prove that they are more better compare to what other fans say on both of them. For sure this will be one of the dream fight which every boxer fans to watch.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kemarit on January 02, 2024, 11:09:07 AM
It seems that Pacquiao is loaded with matches this 2024. Looking at his perspective, this is literally a prosperous new year for him. Whilst for both of them, there is nothing to prove anymore on their ends. This is an exhibition and if Pacquiao wins on this match, Floyd will just say it is fine and it is an exhibition but will he allow that to happen since he is undefeated and I think that even with this type of match, he is serious about it. IMHO, both are winners when these matches comes because they will baghold sums of money in here as they are still in demand and they have global fans that are willing to watch and wait for this match. I want to see Pacquiao win even for this exhibition because for sure that he is too eager to beat Floyd even with just honor that is on stake and about the share, I guess it is still Floyd that has a larger cut for the sales.

The Buakaw fight is just coming soon and here Pacquiao is talking about the Mayweather fight, and so is Mayweather the Gotti fight is not yet happening and now he is booked to fight Pacquiao, people will be more interested in this fight than any exhibition fight that happens in the past, and that includes all the Paul brother fights.
In the past when a boxer retires he will just manage boxers or set up a gym so he can continue to practice his boxing skills, but not anymore now, if you're a popular champion who just retired you can still make money from doing exhibition matches.

Maybe at early this year they already have negotiation about this match up and they have good insights that Mayweather would agree since Pacquiao already said that match will going to happen. For sure he will not release that statement if there's no discussion happened for both camp so this is really more exciting since many people want this match up to happen since they have unfinished business that need to settle since their fans keep debating on who is more stronger than them. Pacquiao fans is not done yet with certain discussion even if Pacquiao lose on their first meet up since they are not been impressed for the result shown. But know maybe it can seal the long time discussion and both of them can prove that they are more better compare to what other fans say on both of them. For sure this will be one of the dream fight which every boxer fans to watch.

I think it will happen, there's too much money in the table that this two can't refused. Just a matter of timing and the availability of Manny and Floyd. Yes, even if this is just an exhibition match and not the rematch that we wanted, still many fans around the world is going to watch it.

Their communications could be open for all we know and they could have been talking already. I think the Buakaw could be a tune up fight for Manny, and with a good money and the offer and terms is so attractive that he accepted it easily. And then after this fight and if he wins, then we can say that it could be a guarantee that Floyd will be next for him maybe in the middle of the year.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Synchronice on January 02, 2024, 11:40:46 AM
I have a bad feeling about this and I think that Floyd is about to make a huge mistake by Floyd. He might get his first loss of his career. Considering his age, his reflexes are not as they used to be when he was younger. During his time, what separated him from the rest was his defensive, reflexes, boxing IQ, and power. On the other hand, I didn't like that Manny announced the fight by himself. I am waiting for Floyd own announcement on this.
Floyd Mayweather is currently retired as a professional boxer with the record of 50 win 0 lose. It's just an exhibition match and it won't affect his 50:0 record. He can win and lose as much as he wants, it doesn't count, it won't affect his numbers anymore.

Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?
Does Floyd really get that much money or does he lie? I mean, $300 million is a huge amount per fight, it's a one fight after all that finishes in minutes and I don't really understand what kind of income he should generate to receive $300 million per fight? Movies don't generate that much amount of money and as far as I know and can tell, Football is the most popular sport by views.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Botnake on January 02, 2024, 11:59:53 AM
Does Floyd really get that much money or does he lie? I mean, $300 million is a huge amount per fight, it's a one fight after all that finishes in minutes and I don't really understand what kind of income he should generate to receive $300 million per fight? Movies don't generate that much amount of money and as far as I know and can tell, Football is the most popular sport by views.

He didn't lie, in his fight with Pacman, he really get a huge amount of money, it's $240 million according to record, but there might be some income that wasn't tallied or reported yet so he is expected to get $300 million.

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The boxers have to be pleased as well, with Pacquiao clearing $125 million for the fight and Mayweather raking in a whopping $240 million. It's the primary reason why it's hard to believe the two won't face off in a rematch, especially since they can market the second fight as the true measuring stick between the two fighters, assuming Pacquiao is back to full strength.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2492016-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-reportedly-generated-600-million-in-revenue

That's why this rematch is likely to happen as for sure they'll make at least $100 million individually or combined.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bakasabo on January 03, 2024, 07:51:25 AM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?
Does Floyd really get that much money or does he lie? I mean, $300 million is a huge amount per fight, it's a one fight after all that finishes in minutes and I don't really understand what kind of income he should generate to receive $300 million per fight? Movies don't generate that much amount of money and as far as I know and can tell, Football is the most popular sport by views.

Yes, he really got those $300 millions or even more. Payment for performance, plus sponsors, plus I think he got some % of PPV sales. While football players earn millions for one season and they are paid in hundred thousands per week, Mayweather managed to earn $9 millions for 2:20min fight against Tenshin Nasukawa. That is about $65k per second. Boxing is always about big payments. That was an exhibition fight against Japanese kickboxer. Now he is about to face one of the best boxers, and for that fight he is going to ask for as much as possible. That is why I am worried about how much tickets or translation going to cost. If they pay him or both of them so much, how much they gonna charge viewers to end with a profit in the end.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 04, 2024, 10:14:22 PM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?
Does Floyd really get that much money or does he lie? I mean, $300 million is a huge amount per fight, it's a one fight after all that finishes in minutes and I don't really understand what kind of income he should generate to receive $300 million per fight? Movies don't generate that much amount of money and as far as I know and can tell, Football is the most popular sport by views.

Yes, he really got those $300 millions or even more. Payment for performance, plus sponsors, plus I think he got some % of PPV sales. While football players earn millions for one season and they are paid in hundred thousands per week, Mayweather managed to earn $9 millions for 2:20min fight against Tenshin Nasukawa. That is about $65k per second. Boxing is always about big payments. That was an exhibition fight against Japanese kickboxer. Now he is about to face one of the best boxers, and for that fight he is going to ask for as much as possible. That is why I am worried about how much tickets or translation going to cost. If they pay him or both of them so much, how much they gonna charge viewers to end with a profit in the end.

Not sure about that $300 million per fight, but that could be a series of fights. If I'm not mistaken, Canelo signs a $300 million deal before, 11 fights and that is the biggest contract that we have seen so far, surpassing Floyd.

But I think Floyd says that he is still the riches boxer ever, so maybe per exhibition fight a cool $10 million dollar each plus maybe PPV and live gate sales and the him getting the lion share of that money in his every fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: passwordnow on January 04, 2024, 10:34:58 PM
So when this fight was announced I really became confused but then, I've come to understand that this could be the last fight of this year. With all of the possible match up that Floyd and Pacquiao will have for this year, they are saving the best for last and that's how it is going to be.

But I think Floyd says that he is still the riches boxer ever, so maybe per exhibition fight a cool $10 million dollar each plus maybe PPV and live gate sales and the him getting the lion share of that money in his every fight.
That is for sure, he can boast with that because he literally has the money and each exhibition fight that he'll have will cost the organizers a lot of money and it's also going to depend on him whether he's going to agree accepting that talent fee that he's having. As long as there will be organizers that are interested to take him for an exhibition match, it will also make them a lot of money because he's still a marketable and undefeated champion and many fans would like to see him box again.

Whilst for Pacquiao, it's the same. He's the people's champ and I think that there are more fans than Floyd's but it doesn't matter. Both are in demand and great fighters and we all want to see them beat each other asses and there will be one winner again. So, they do this for so many times and I don't think people will get tired watching them.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Quidat on January 04, 2024, 10:54:35 PM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?
Does Floyd really get that much money or does he lie? I mean, $300 million is a huge amount per fight, it's a one fight after all that finishes in minutes and I don't really understand what kind of income he should generate to receive $300 million per fight? Movies don't generate that much amount of money and as far as I know and can tell, Football is the most popular sport by views.

Yes, he really got those $300 millions or even more. Payment for performance, plus sponsors, plus I think he got some % of PPV sales. While football players earn millions for one season and they are paid in hundred thousands per week, Mayweather managed to earn $9 millions for 2:20min fight against Tenshin Nasukawa. That is about $65k per second. Boxing is always about big payments. That was an exhibition fight against Japanese kickboxer. Now he is about to face one of the best boxers, and for that fight he is going to ask for as much as possible. That is why I am worried about how much tickets or translation going to cost. If they pay him or both of them so much, how much they gonna charge viewers to end with a profit in the end.

Not sure about that $300 million per fight, but that could be a series of fights. If I'm not mistaken, Canelo signs a $300 million deal before, 11 fights and that is the biggest contract that we have seen so far, surpassing Floyd.

But I think Floyd says that he is still the riches boxer ever, so maybe per exhibition fight a cool $10 million dollar each plus maybe PPV and live gate sales and the him getting the lion share of that money in his every fight.
Doesnt matter on what would be the actual numbers but as long they do earn millions out of these fights then this is something that they cant really be able to resist to arrange up some fights.
Results of this exhibition fights arent official then for sure Floyd wont really be mattering much or be bothered if ever Pacquiao would whopped his ass on this upcoming exhibition.  :D
We are now seeing that they are arranging already the possible fights that are in line for this year on which it is really that something interesting for this year 2024.
Not to mention about those fights of Inoue too + this exhibition fights with MP vs Mayweather and Buakaw then this is really that an interesting year
exempt also into those known big fights too.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Casdinyard on January 04, 2024, 11:02:12 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D
Every match that Pacquiao is in is going to be considered as massive fight (well except his most recent one lol) which goes to show just how big his impact and influence is in the boxing industry. The same could be said for Mayweather since they are formidable fighters with a lot of belts under their waists at this point.

Honestly I don't care much for how "genuine" this fight will be cause there had been speculations in the past about Mayweather fixing his fights to keep his clean record through and through. I really just wanna see these two people duke it out once again in the ring for old time's sake. Plus I know for sure Pacquiao's got a bone to pick with Mayweather now that he know he's not gonna win for shit if he couldn't knock him out (Mayweather has never been knocked down and according to Marquez, a previous opponent and a close friend of Pacquiao's, he wouldn't win against his fight with Mayweather if he couldn't knock him out, which then proves to be true). So yeah, Mayweather can play along the book as he likes, but Pacquiao's definitely gonna make the Pretty Boy bleed.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: goinmerry on January 04, 2024, 11:15:57 PM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Shamm on January 04, 2024, 11:32:52 PM
Where we see Floyd Mayweather, there is always big money. Google say that for their first fight, Floyd has earned around $300 millions. Since then his appetites only grew. Pacquiao will also wants to get a large paycheck. How much Floyd going to ask now? Half a billion? From business concern, to be able to pay fighters their hundreds of millions, plus spend on promotion, those who are going to organize this even would have to set high ticket and PPV prices if they dont want to go bankrupt after this event. Will people be ready to pay, for example $100, for an exhibition fight of two retired boxers?

Floyd the pretty boy Mayweather is very popular in many countries around the world and also Manny Pacman Pacquiao the only 8 division champ. So if this gonna happen then we see a good fight as this is an rematch and we all know what happens last time they fight   and that is a good fight even though Manny Pacquiao loss that fight but at least he gave his very best to that fight and maybe. This upcoming rematch will  hattle If who is  the best.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: coin-investor on January 05, 2024, 10:39:50 AM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

The two of them just held a press conference in Japan

*BREAKING* PACQUIAO vs MAYWEATHER 2 IS ON! OFFICIAL PRESS CONFERENCE and TRASH TALK ~ANNOUNCEMENT!~ (https://youtu.be/0ACwQA8cQSE?si=F6CeFeBYKgiQ7tEm&t=58)
They are both promoting the fight and agreed to do it not only is Pacquiao doing it, but this press conference shows the character of both fighters, Floyd keeps insisting that he is the best while Pacquiao is all thankful for the opportunity, I hope Manny shut down Floyd so he can stop bragging how great he is.

This is a great opportunity for both fighters to make money in their retirement, people are still interested to see both fighters although they aged they still have the same form as when they are still active.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: angrybirdy on January 05, 2024, 01:21:13 PM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

Upon checking the news posted in different social media sites, There's  also an actual news right now announced that both of them are promoting their match. Well, it will surely one of the most awaiting match in boxing history, I hope this time Manny pacquiao win the title. I really thought that Manny Pacquiao had retired from boxing because he was busy with the senate, so I was also very surprised when I saw the news that there would be a rematch, for sure many people would be waiting and the bet would be big.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 05, 2024, 01:37:02 PM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

The two of them just held a press conference in Japan

*BREAKING* PACQUIAO vs MAYWEATHER 2 IS ON! OFFICIAL PRESS CONFERENCE and TRASH TALK ~ANNOUNCEMENT!~ (https://youtu.be/0ACwQA8cQSE?si=F6CeFeBYKgiQ7tEm&t=58)
They are both promoting the fight and agreed to do it not only is Pacquiao doing it, but this press conference shows the character of both fighters, Floyd keeps insisting that he is the best while Pacquiao is all thankful for the opportunity, I hope Manny shut down Floyd so he can stop bragging how great he is.

This is a great opportunity for both fighters to make money in their retirement, people are still interested to see both fighters although they aged they still have the same form as when they are still active.
Not shocking or really that surprising as Floyd is really that having that kind of behavior eversince on which he could actually justify that he's the best considering that he had retired without having any defeat on which it is really just that normal that he would really be having those words but of course it would really be that part of the marketing on which trying out to spice things up for it to be more that on a hype.
Speaking about getting defeated then if ever Floyd would be defeated then it wont really be that much of a concern since stats wont really be that official but pretty much sure that there would really be
lots of boxing fans would really be loving to see for this thing to happen on which he would be taken down by Pacquiao.

We do have good exhibition fights of this year in regarding into these boxers and other possible match ups. Yes, its entertaining but i do still prefer to see those
official matches on the current rising stars in boxing industry as of this moment.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Fatunad on January 05, 2024, 02:25:31 PM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

Upon checking the news posted in different social media sites, There's  also an actual news right now announced that both of them are promoting their match. Well, it will surely one of the most awaiting match in boxing history, I hope this time Manny pacquiao win the title. I really thought that Manny Pacquiao had retired from boxing because he was busy with the senate, so I was also very surprised when I saw the news that there would be a rematch, for sure many people would be waiting and the bet would be big.

I did end up on clickbaited on this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByR4e4nBwO8

I thought that there was some leaked sparring session but that guy isnt Mayweather.lol. Even if this is really just that an exhibition, there's no way that both
fighters would really be having some sparring before the right. Do we really think that both camps are really that close enough? I never thought that i do easily make myself that clickbaited.  ;D
These boxing gods or legends does really have that taking advantage of being famous on boxing world. Even these fights arent official but they are really that capable
on generating too much money which is more than compared into those official matches.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Johnyz on January 05, 2024, 02:30:12 PM
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.
As expected, Mayweather are still careful on choosing who to fight even if its just an exhibition.
If there's no final statement or official announcement from both parties then this will remain as a plan.

It looks like the team Pacquiao is still waiting for Mayweather to agree with the terms and they are still finalizing it, let's see for the coming weeks if they will start to hype this match or they will just ignore the noise of this one.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Woodie on January 05, 2024, 02:42:47 PM
Exhibition matches are pathetic, and don't deserve the hype!!

I know you might want to say these are some of the biggest names in this sport but for an exhibition match and watching 50 year olds box 🥊🥊

sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  :P as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Marykeller on January 05, 2024, 03:44:34 PM
If the rematch takes place this year, Manny will be happy that his lifelong dream has come true because the last time the two legends squared off in a boxing ring, which took place in Nevada on May 2, 2015, Manny complained bitterly that Mayweather didn't win rather he won.

Part 2 of the fight, which will take place in neutral ground ''Japan", will be an exciting contest to watch because Manny will give it his all to win, and Mayweather will show him that, even though he retired from boxing six ago and he stays undefeated (50-0), he can still defeat him at any time.

Since the announcement of the rematch by Manny, Mayweather hasn't made any statements regarding his desire to fight Manny again, so none of us know if he would accept to fight Manny in an exhibition match, this year. Hands crossed whether Mayweather would agree to fight Manny yet again


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: qwertyup23 on January 05, 2024, 03:45:27 PM
This could be one of the biggest match for this year and that's a big announcement already.
Though there's a lot of speculation already so better not to expect that much especially with Mayweather as he wants to protect his record even if its an exhibition match. Another big money machine for both boxer, and let's just see if they will both agree for the terms and i'd hope that Manny will won this time so they can have the final rematch in 2025. :D

Regardless if it is an exhibition match or not, the fact that these two (2) legends will face one more in the ring is enough for me to be sold.

As a Filipino, my heart really goes out to Pacquiao. He is the only boxer to win eight (8) division titles in different categories which is enough for him to be listed at least on the top 5 GOATs of boxing. While many people see Mayweather as a "runner," his style of boxing revolves around hitting and not being hit. While he is indeed a technical fighter who plays for the score cards, Pacquiao is an explosive fighter who fights fire with fire- his style of aggressiveness and quickness will definitely wear out their opponents.

Even if it is an exhibition match, again, I super look forward in watching this fight. I just hope that this fight would also spark numerous debates regarding on who is the better fighter- but as an exhibition match, they can get away with it and reason otherwise.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: AbuBhakar on January 05, 2024, 03:52:05 PM
If the rematch takes place this year, Manny will be happy that his lifelong dream has come true because the last time the two legends squared off in a boxing ring, which took place in Nevada on May 2, 2015, Manny complained bitterly that Mayweather didn't win rather he won.

I’m a Filipino but Mayweather won that fight. It’s not a convincingly win since he outsmarted Pacquiao through points by not fighting toe to toe but he really win considering the number of punches land and not only about solid blows punches landed.

Part 2 of the fight, which will take place in neutral ground ''Japan", will be an exciting contest to watch because Manny will give it his all to win, and Mayweather will show him that, even though he retired from boxing six ago and he stays undefeated (50-0), he can still defeat him at any time.

I doubt this match will happened outside US since Mayweather never fought outside the US in his professional career. I knew this is just an exhibition match but I believe all of us will agree that the result of this rematch can be considered as official record on the record of this 2 fighter.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawanjain on January 05, 2024, 03:59:32 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


Quote
Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/

From the article mentioned in OP it looks like they have already had a match in 2015 where Mayweather won the match against Pacquiao.
But the fans wanted a rematch and may be that's why they are doing it right now.
Pacquiao already has a match with Buakaw Banchamek in April and so we don't know yet when the match will happen.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Heartilly on January 05, 2024, 04:56:12 PM
sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  :P as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Yatsan on January 05, 2024, 05:15:19 PM
Seems like mayweather has no plans of damaging his record for this exhibition match. Don't get me wrong; Floyd has a good offensive and defensive skill but no doubt that he would be cautious of his opponent given that pacquiao is also experienced and won't be too careless even if it is an exhibition match. They fought each other already and for sure they know how to handle things properly. If it would be with power the Manny definitely has the advantage but not all things would be carried away by brute force alone. This is sports we are talking about and anything could happen inside the box including emergencies, which we should be alao careful of if it is our bet we are worried of.
Unless Mayweather announces this to the public and will start building hype, I will remove the possibility that this might not be pushed.

It's unusual for me to see Mayweather just participate in an exhibition match without any thoughts. Reading also the article, it's clear that Pacquiao's side seems the only one aggressive in the exhibition match. No statements were brought up on the Mayweather side.

But like anyone else, I hope this will happen for real, and not when Pacman and Mayweather are now in their 50s lol.

Upon checking the news posted in different social media sites, There's  also an actual news right now announced that both of them are promoting their match. Well, it will surely one of the most awaiting match in boxing history, I hope this time Manny pacquiao win the title. I really thought that Manny Pacquiao had retired from boxing because he was busy with the senate, so I was also very surprised when I saw the news that there would be a rematch, for sure many people would be waiting and the bet would be big.

Quite if a money game for them. If it is with sports then it is more likely to be in favor of Floyd given his reputation of being undefeated. I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: chaser15 on January 05, 2024, 08:08:52 PM
I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  :D But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Jating on January 05, 2024, 09:14:23 PM
Just recently reported that Pacman announce his fight with Mayweather this year.

For the information of everyone, this is just an exhibition fight, and I think it will be after his fight with Buakaw which will happen in April 2020.

I believe, this is the biggest exhibition match and could potentially break another PPV record.


Quote
Mayweather vs Pacquiao II is set to happen on a RIZIN card in 2024, according to Manny Pacquiao and RIZIN boss Nobuyuki Sakakibara.

The announcement was made on New Year’s Eve in Japan as Pacquiao attended as a special guest.

“Pac-Man” stated he had permission to confirm the fight when taking to the microphone.

Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch in 2024
“I hope to see you in Japan in a big fight against Floyd Mayweather,’ Pacquiao stated. “I’m excited for that.”

Read more : https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/31/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-rematch-confirmed/

From the article mentioned in OP it looks like they have already had a match in 2015 where Mayweather won the match against Pacquiao.
But the fans wanted a rematch and may be that's why they are doing it right now.
Pacquiao already has a match with Buakaw Banchamek in April and so we don't know yet when the match will happen.

Pacquiao though admitted that after the fight that he has some sort of injuries in his shoulder, not an excuse by he is not 100% and I think others will agree that the fight is late already. They should have fought way before, when Manny is destroying everyone, but Floyd wasn't ready yet or just waited for Manny to decline and get punished, knockout by Marquez.

That's how clever Mayweather is, and probably this is the argument against him as the greatest and most likely as well why there are boxing analyst that claim that Manny is better prime for prime against Floyd because Manny is not afraid to face anyone during his prime.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 05, 2024, 09:20:55 PM
sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  :P as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

It's possible, one of the earliest exhibition matches, Tyson vs Jones Jr, ended in a draw when obviously, Tyson looks poised to get that win. And it was evidently that everyone has colluded, the referee, the judges themselves to make the match even at the end of the fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.

I disagree though, we have seen exhibition matches with Jake Paul or even Floyd Mayweather being listed on sports book even if the odds are almost in the favor of this two. And for sure there are gamblers that are willing to bet on this kind of matches. And here we are talking about two of the best in our generation? This will listed 100% as it will generate a lot of busy to crypto based sports bookies.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 05, 2024, 09:27:12 PM
sorry not to my taste...and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends In a draw like the Tyson fight  :P as this is the best result for all parties involved and likely the best time to make money off punters who will likely go all in on the money team (TMT).
honestly Not looking forward to this one sorry, as the last time I was out supporting Pacquiao he was robbed, and never do I want history to repeat itself..

Exhibition matches in boxing have always the possibility of ending up in a non-concluded fight. It's for entertainment purposes that's why it is called an exhibition match from the start. It's not surprising to see DRAW result in an exhibition match since that was already expected from the start. I know it's not your taste to bet on that but just want to clarify that you can't compare it in a professional sanction fight.

I also don't think that bookies will cover this event and list this event on their sportsbook.

this is what i am thinking here as well. it can very well end up draw as both promoters may have had their prior arrangement already even before they step inside the ring. i would say, better watch the exhibition fight and not bet on this. we may be fooled by the promoters here thinking that there's big money on the line and yet, they already have the results ready to announce.

I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  :D But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.

that i can say, have the shade of truth. for pacquiao, he will fight toe-to-toe and still give his best foot forward. and that is not for money but for the love of boxing and showing to his fans what he's got. but for mayweather, money is still his topmost priority and not his performance. expect running around the ring even if this is only exhibition fight. maybe another disappointment match from mayweather.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 05, 2024, 09:36:45 PM
I think pacquiao is only up for this for money and that is a normal drive to possess given that titles and history is on the line.

Money matters yes but I disagree that Manny is only up for this money. The dude can't just forget boxing and he's even still in shape to fight in a professional match. There are lots of short interviews before on his post-retirement where he mentioned that he's still doing his usual regime in boxing-related training and he misses coming back again in the ring that's why he's here in the exhibition match scene.

Mayweather is the only one up for the money.  :D But is that what the exhibition matches for, right? Money is included in the scene. It's also hard to arrange exhibition matches between legend names. Let's also add that this exhibition match between Pacquiao and Mayweather will happen not on their too much old age.

Mayweather retired in 2017 while Manny in 2021. And just imagine a few years later they will be in the exhibition match. Surely it will be a good treat for those people who can witness the fight live as it might not happen again in the future.
Well this is true on which there are really indeed people who cant really just that forget on the sports or career that they are really that into on which despite on being that retired, they would really be still loving on
having those fights even if its really just that an exhibition. Everything cant really be just that money just like on what others been saying that these fighters are really that in for the money on which
we know that it would really be just that normal or typical that they would really be having that kind of fund generation or earning because of the things that they've been doing.
This is really just that depending since not everything would really be that for the money. Also, lots of fans would really be liking to see again these great fighters to be on the ring
even those stats wont really be that official but at least we are really some seeing some good entertainment on here.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Saint-loup on January 05, 2024, 09:59:32 PM
God. This is an endless story actually, since how many years we hear rumors about this fight? I think people has halted to wait for it since quite a long time now, they've turned the page and moved on, so I'm not sure it will be the event used to be expected. They're getting old and they've stopped the competition since several years years now, 6 years for Mayweather, 3 years for Pacquiao. That's a long time for a sports champion.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Oasisman on January 05, 2024, 10:11:49 PM
Mayweather vs Pacquiao II

Is it just me or does this fight is not half as interesting as the first fight, considering that the first match both fighters are out of their prime. Well, regardless this would definitely sell more than most of the professional fights today because both of them are legends and this match itself is legendary as well.
We all know that this match is all business only and both fighters wouldn't wanna risk giving each other a devastating finish. Now, the question is, will the bookies put a betting lines for this match the answer will be a big Yes. So, for those who wants to place a bet, choose your odds wisely lol.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: crwth on January 06, 2024, 04:28:29 AM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Slow death on January 06, 2024, 11:19:40 AM
well, Mayweather is 46 years old, the guy hasn't fought for a long time, but he has been training, although I highly doubt it's training at the level of a professional fighter, because as he wouldn't have any fights, it wouldn't make much sense for him to he trained a lot. on the other side we have Pacquiao who is 45 years old. Both fighters are no longer young, but as they don't have a big age difference, it seems to me that this will be a balanced fight in which the winner will depend on the physical attributes of each fighter and the strategy that each fighter will adopt. in boxi the time interval in which fights have been held, for example, it is very normal for a fight involving professional fighters to be scheduled for 5 or more months later

and when it gets close to the fight, a fighter gets sick, so they postpone the fight and when they reschedule the fight, they choose it for 5 months later, so people and fighters spend more than 1 year waiting for a fight or more than 5 months waiting for a fight . By this I mean that all this time that these two fighters have been inactive in professional competitions is not a big problem. The biggest problem with these two fighters is their age, over 45 years old, it seems to me that it is an age at which people start to be slower, and an age at which people get tired faster, especially when they are retired. For some time, the body gets used to the lighter routine. I see that this fight could be fun, but it won't be a fight at the level of current professional boxers


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: stadus on January 06, 2024, 01:08:28 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.

The rules could be different than the professinal fight since this is just an exhibition fight. they can choose to fight and now winner will be declared just like other exhibition fights, but it's up to them. What's important now is that it will be finalized, people will start talking so the hype will continue.

And yes, it's quick bucks for them, and we can't blame them, they work hard for their position in life now, and people wants to see both legandary fighter fight again, despite it's only an exhibition fight.

Don't worry about corruption, it only happen in pro fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 06, 2024, 01:20:46 PM
Or Mayweather will not pursue it. If they fight I do hope they'll fight their might considering many has been awaiting this for years already especially when they haven't retired from the boxing yet and for sure the excitement was still there but most was really into the intensity of the match and for sure if they fight again it wouldn't be there considering it's just an exhibition.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 06, 2024, 01:33:45 PM
There's no assurance that it could become the biggest entertainment fight of the year but I bet many will watch this. Manny Pacquiao has so many fans, especially in his own country, the Philippines. I will definitely support Manny here and I want to see if he still have those big punches that could shake Mayweather.
The upset here is if Mayweather plays the same way as he did against him. I know it's just for an exhibition match but it's not fun to see a boxer who just keeps on dodging and not even trying to box. I mean, we have seen Mike Tyson so upset with how Mayweather performs and many Filipinos also don't like what happened back then. There's not much action because of the clinch and dodge strategy. I love it more when Manny is up against front fighters who will test whose chin is stronger.
Anyway, I hope this will be a successful one. Both are big names in the industry but I am still hoping for some good action.
Yeah that is one of the problem there clinch and dodge. Why a problem? It is because those people who pay on PPV just to watch a lot of action in this fight might turn to upset for many boxing fans if Mayweather keep on clinching and dodging. Though it is part of boxing but using it the whole time is annoying and is not worth the money you pay for that match.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kemarit on January 07, 2024, 01:32:10 PM
Or Mayweather will not pursue it. If they fight I do hope they'll fight their might considering many has been awaiting this for years already especially when they haven't retired from the boxing yet and for sure the excitement was still there but most was really into the intensity of the match and for sure if they fight again it wouldn't be there considering it's just an exhibition.

Still going to be for fun and entertainment as Mayweather is not willing to put his boxing records in the line. So he will pursue this for the money obvious as others have said. But for fans, we can still some excitement in this fight as we wanted to see a rematch that never happen and this is the closest that we might see them again in the ring although it might not be competitive if this is a professional fight and maybe there is a championship belt in the line.

As for the clinch and dodge style of Mayweather, we are already used to that kind of fight from him. Others might argue that it's a effective method for him and no one has crack the riddle of his defense, his Philly defense and then his counter punching.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Oilacris on January 08, 2024, 05:19:22 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  :D

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 08, 2024, 05:25:17 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  :D

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

or course, the very reason why this exhibition fight will happen is because of big monies involved. just think of mayweather if he will agree to such fight without tons of money on the line. i can believe if pacquiao is agreeing for this match to be a charitable one. even if he has nothing to  gain and just provide something for his chosen charitable group. but with mayweather, it would be hard to believe if there's no huge money involved and if he does agree with the terms to his favour.

in any case, i understand boxing fans are still wanting to see these 2 inside the ring one more time. so yeah, they can still fetch good gate purse for this fight. of course, the promoters are getting their share here as well, so definitely, they will push for this exhibition match as much as possible.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on January 08, 2024, 06:08:31 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  :D
But on the other side, if they are not going to show an exhibition match,  that would just solidify that boxing was just a money machine for them and not their sport passion. We know money is involved on this match, actually in all of sport, we can't deny that but these men are fighting for their pride and skills. We know Pacman lost on scorecard but deep inside we know who show the true heart of a warrior, we know who won the first fight.

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.
Man, it is an exhibition match, it's non tournament fight or fighting for a belt, Pac doesn't need more any belt lmao he has and only has the 8 world division champ.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Jating on January 08, 2024, 09:02:56 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  :D

That's the very definition of exhibition matches, fights that we might have missed during their primes, although they have fought before and Floyd won. But this time, if they can still fight and then make huge money, then why not? And so with that, they can't missed their opportunity again as they know that fans are willing to pay to watch them fight again.

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

It could end in a draw or still Floyd winning the fight. But it doesn't matter though as this is not a professional fight, all for the money and records are not affected. And again, as you have said, it's for entertainment purposes only so this could not be counted for the discussions as who is better as we think or at least majority here thinks that Manny has a great career as compare to Floyd, just saying.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on January 08, 2024, 10:05:02 PM
I have mixed feelings about fights like this one.
On one hand, we all know they are only doing this for the money, they are both retired for quite some time now, they could've re-run it for the second time before retirement, but chose not to. Oftentimes when fighters decide to return from retirement is because of some financial problems and they have no choice, which is kind of sad.
But, on the other hand, it's still more exciting than most of the current boxing fights and I'd be happy to watch it, provided both of them are at least in decent shape and it's not a pure money-grab.
It's good for boxing, and if both of them are fit enough, with no serious health issues, and if both are willing - then why not?

I don't think that fight will break any PPV records as some here are suggesting. They are too far past their prime for that.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Dave1 on January 09, 2024, 09:57:49 AM
I have mixed feelings about fights like this one.
On one hand, we all know they are only doing this for the money, they are both retired for quite some time now, they could've re-run it for the second time before retirement, but chose not to. Oftentimes when fighters decide to return from retirement is because of some financial problems and they have no choice, which is kind of sad.
But, on the other hand, it's still more exciting than most of the current boxing fights and I'd be happy to watch it, provided both of them are at least in decent shape and it's not a pure money-grab.
It's good for boxing, and if both of them are fit enough, with no serious health issues, and if both are willing - then why not?

I don't think that fight will break any PPV records as some here are suggesting. They are too far past their prime for that.

We can't really tell, but for sure the PPV numbers are still going to be huge, there are still a lot of interest coming from boxing fans, and so there is a demand. And we all know that if there is a demand, meaning fans are willing to buy the ticket either PPV or live gates.

Of course both of them are way past their prime. But their names still magnifies up to this day, arguments as who is the greatest amongst the two and that kind of discussions in not going to end. So we are still very curious as who is going to win when they face each other again even if it is just for exhibition fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on January 09, 2024, 09:52:23 PM
We can't really tell, but for sure the PPV numbers are still going to be huge, there are still a lot of interest coming from boxing fans, and so there is a demand. And we all know that if there is a demand, meaning fans are willing to buy the ticket either PPV or live gates.

Of course both of them are way past their prime. But their names still magnifies up to this day, arguments as who is the greatest amongst the two and that kind of discussions in not going to end. So we are still very curious as who is going to win when they face each other again even if it is just for exhibition fight.

Kind of depends on how you define "huge". Their first fight brought around $400 millions in revenue (according to wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.). If this fight gets $50 millions, it will probably be called a success (that's the revenue they got from Mayweather vs. Paul, which was heavily hyped up).
Pacquiao will bring millions of Filipino viewers, but most of them won't be happy in paying for PPV, so won't be bringing in any huge money.

As for the chances, I'd definitely bet on Mayweather, even though I'd prefer Many to win. Simply Floyd has been pretty active after his "retirement", and fought quite a few exhibition fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Lanatsa on January 09, 2024, 09:58:56 PM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
Really just that too obvious when these retired boxers would really be making out such exhibition event on which it is really for the money and since they do have that popularity and having that
known into the history of boxing then these dudes could really easily hook up people to watch. If you dont like on supporting for them to make money then you could always be free
on looking for the replay.  :D

Its already anticipated that they would really be having this kind of set up, as for referee then it would really be that typical. I wont really be
even be shocked on the time that the fight would be having that TIE results. It is really just that for entertainment for boxing
fans but due to that history of both fighters then it cant be avoided that there would really be always those discussions on whose better.

or course, the very reason why this exhibition fight will happen is because of big monies involved. just think of mayweather if he will agree to such fight without tons of money on the line. i can believe if pacquiao is agreeing for this match to be a charitable one. even if he has nothing to  gain and just provide something for his chosen charitable group. but with mayweather, it would be hard to believe if there's no huge money involved and if he does agree with the terms to his favour.

in any case, i understand boxing fans are still wanting to see these 2 inside the ring one more time. so yeah, they can still fetch good gate purse for this fight. of course, the promoters are getting their share here as well, so definitely, they will push for this exhibition match as much as possible.
The advantage on being that one of the greatest or known boxers or fighters or even on other sports on which you could really be having that chance or possibilities on having these exhibition fights that despite
on being retired or being old, you could still be able to make money out of these fights and this is what they are doing it now. Well there's nothing we can do if they would really be setting up those kind of fights on which as long it would be involving money then this is where they would really be making themselves agreeing into those things on which it is really just that typical that they would be having no rejections
on doing so since big money is involved on here. Somewhat this fight would really be  that making that huge one considering that this is a rematch after that first fight even though this one isnt official but people would really be assuming that this is something that could prove out on whose the greatest among the two.  ;D

Lots of interesting fights for this year whether exhibition or official matches. Im that eager to see and of course the entire boxing fans would really be rooting
to watch these fights which it hadnt been done before when they are still on their prime years.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on January 09, 2024, 11:17:02 PM
Lots of interesting fights for this year whether exhibition or official matches.

I don't think there's actually much going on in the official boxing right now. Other than Fury Vs Usyk, there don't seem to be many high calibre fights. Or maybe I'm just misinformed and being unfair. It's just it doesn't look like there are enough exciting fighters that could be interesting to the audience from the outside of a die-hard boxing fans circle.
That's probably one of the reasons Pacquiao Vs Mayweather could work out pretty well and bring back more excitement to the sport.

I just learnt that Anthony Joshua will be fighting Francis Ngannou this year, but hard to say if this should be classed as "official boxing" or more of an exhibition.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: JariKriting on January 10, 2024, 01:25:07 AM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.

obviously this match is only for money not for an achievement. both are equally old. maywahter is 46 years old while pacman paquio is 45 years old. even maywather has stepped down from the professional ring. matches are only exhibition matches. the same when maywahter fought with MMA fighter conor mygregor was only an exhibition match. after stepping down from the professional ring maywahter only fought in exhibition fights that had big names too so he could make a lot of money.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Getmon on January 10, 2024, 02:44:27 AM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Sanitough on January 10, 2024, 05:01:12 AM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 10, 2024, 06:29:50 AM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

I have not seen any official confirmation from Floyd yet. There was some videos on YouTube that are trying to build hype for this fight but when you click on them they are just a bunch of AI-generated clickbait garbage piecing together out of context quotes and old video footage. You would think that if this fight was really happening, Floyd would be all over social media running his mouth and publicizing this event.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Polkeins on January 10, 2024, 11:49:04 AM
Are they in it again for the money? Maybe they ran out or just needed some quick buck to sustain their lifestyle again.

Anyway, I hope that there will be AI referees and judges to make sure that there's no corruption in the fight and see how it will fair on the results.
They didn't hide the fact that it was all about money, because with all due respect to Pacquiao, Mayweather was out of reach in those years.

You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.

No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Shamm on January 10, 2024, 12:34:28 PM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.

If this happen once again Manny Pacquiao vs mayweather  then we can see a good fight as we all know that they are in their older age  and they are getting slower than before in their prime years which is now they have the difference speed than Before but as of this moment Manny pacman will have a chance to beat Mayweather as we all know that the fighting style of Mayweather is more on hit and back which is he can't fight in to face to face cause he is already knew that he can't beat Manny in that strategy.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Taskford on January 10, 2024, 12:48:33 PM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

Mayweather will likely to win but the excitement they will bring is enough for the fans to be happy. Most likely, Mayweather will still be using his style which is hit and run, but at his age now, I'm thinking maybe he has slowed down a bit and that would give Manny a chance to catch him.

This fight was only confirm Manny's side, we haven't heard from Mayweather yet, probably they are still waiting until Manny finish his fight with Buakaw, then they will start promoting this fight.

If this happen once again Manny Pacquiao vs mayweather  then we can see a good fight as we all know that they are in their older age  and they are getting slower than before in their prime years which is now they have the difference speed than Before but as of this moment Manny pacman will have a chance to beat Mayweather as we all know that the fighting style of Mayweather is more on hit and back which is he can't fight in to face to face cause he is already knew that he can't beat Manny in that strategy.

Hopefully there's no disturbance will happen and Mayweather will like the offer negotiated to him so that they can make this fight to happen. Many fans really rotting for this fight since its like a unfinish business that need to settle since people are still speculating about who between them is really the best fighter on their era. If happen that Pacquiao will beat Mayweather for sure this can revive the discussion that he deserve to be the number one pound for pound king on their era and not Mayweather.

Further developments will come so hope to see this fight to happen since many people will get disappointed if another postponed fight will happen between them.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: yazher on January 10, 2024, 01:13:48 PM
You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Hamphser on January 10, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.
You mean DKyoo? Yes, that was just a warm up and you could really be able to tell that fight experience and power is really that in huge gap but still its not really that bad but if you are really that a boxing
fan or enthusiast then that fight is really just that laughable. As for against Buakaw then i cant say that it would be a challenge for him, im not underestimating buakaw but since we are playing or having that boxing game rules then it would really be just that normal and we could already say on who would gonna win but since this is really just that an exhibition. Now that they do have rematch with Mayweather
then i could really say that this is much more interesting considering that both fighters are legends on Boxing sports. This is where you could really be able to tell that this exhibition fight would really be interesting.
Outcomes or statistics might not be that official but at least we are seeing this kind of fight which it didnt happen before into their prime days.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on January 10, 2024, 05:21:30 PM
obviously this match is only for money not for an achievement. both are equally old. maywahter is 46 years old while pacman paquio is 45 years old.

That's actually not that old, there are boxers of similar age out there still competing in official fights. Mike Tyson was 54 when he did his came back to fight Roy Jones Jr, and they pull off a pretty decent show. Mike still had a pretty slick movement despite being a heavyweight.
We know Mayweather was quire active with all his exhibition fights etc, so if Many Pacquiao is also in a god shape and hasn't spent last years drinking beer on a couch, then there's a big chance that fight could be at fairly decent level.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Polkeins on January 11, 2024, 08:33:45 AM
You can dislike Mayweather behavior, with the display of wealth and advertising a bunch of brands, but as a boxer he was very good. It seems that nobody could find a key to him in those years, and Mayweather did not fight as often as Pacquiao, but he always asked for the biggest fees.
No official confirmation yet, but apparently he couldn't find the money for Mayweather's fee yet. Last time he got about $100 million dollars last time with all the payoffs.

They really need to make it official if they want to make some more money out of it because they are still popular despite their age since they are still active in the boxing gyms which makes their body fit and strong enough to fight once more. I'm sure everyone wanted to see them fight without any injuries because it was really a waste when they fought against each other last time without their 100% especially Pacquiao. Pacquiao's last fight was more entertaining though because he was just playing with his opponent but I think it would not be the same against Buakaw this year, it will be another serious scenario for him.
Mayweather is 45 years old, Pacquiao seems to be 2 years younger than him, but as you noticed they are in great shape now and I'm sure if this fight takes place it could be much more interesting than the fights of modern boxers.

From a sporting point of view of course this fight does not make any sense, but as a kind of exhibition or entertainment it can be quite interesting for spectators, as a fight between some of the best boxers of their generation, and in the case of Mayweather, perhaps the best boxer of his era.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Getmon on January 11, 2024, 12:16:32 PM
Is this true? Or RIZIN and Manny Pacquiao just want to give Mayweather an offer of a match in Japan.? How can it be that I have not heard Mayweather talking of a match with Pacquiao in Japan?

Anyhow, if the match is legit, I pick Mayweather to win. Mayweather is the more prepared of the two, he made exhibition matches that keep his body conditioned. Pacquiao is more youthful however after he retired from boxing, he turned out to be more occupied with his political aspirations. Many fans will watch this match regardless of whether this is just an exhibition however I do not see these breaking records as what they did before.

I have not seen any official confirmation from Floyd yet. There was some videos on YouTube that are trying to build hype for this fight but when you click on them they are just a bunch of AI-generated clickbait garbage piecing together out of context quotes and old video footage. You would think that if this fight was really happening, Floyd would be all over social media running his mouth and publicizing this event.

Needless to say, Floyd will promote the rematch and will hype it as superior to Saul Alvarez and Terrence Crawford matches. The character of Floyd will not stay silent if the two sides settle to an agreement. I reckon there is no agreement on the two sides and after Pacquio can put on a great show on Buakaw will RIZIN begin contacting Floyd with an offer of another exhibition Japan.

obviously this match is only for money not for an achievement. both are equally old. maywahter is 46 years old while pacman paquio is 45 years old.

That's actually not that old, there are boxers of similar age out there still competing in official fights. Mike Tyson was 54 when he did his came back to fight Roy Jones Jr, and they pull off a pretty decent show. Mike still had a pretty slick movement despite being a heavyweight.
We know Mayweather was quire active with all his exhibition fights etc, so if Many Pacquiao is also in a god shape and hasn't spent last years drinking beer on a couch, then there's a big chance that fight could be at fairly decent level.

I likewise see the Mayweather-Pacquiao as a cash grab. This is certainly not a match endorsed by the boxing alphabet that can merit them in the ranks. Furthermore, this is only an exhibition match. The Mike Tyson and Roy Jones match was also a cash grab. I adore these boxers and support their exhibitions, but there are no added career achievements but to make money.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Natalim on January 11, 2024, 12:58:54 PM

I likewise see the Mayweather-Pacquiao as a cash grab. This is certainly not a match endorsed by the boxing alphabet that can merit them in the ranks. Furthermore, this is only an exhibition match. The Mike Tyson and Roy Jones match was also a cash grab. I adore these boxers and support their exhibitions, but there are no added career achievements but to make money.

What could else be the reason why this fight is triggered? Of course man, it's the money they'll cash after this fight. If Paul Brothers were able to sell their respective fights and earn millions, for sure Mayweather and Pac would not miss that opportunity to make easy money. Besides, they deserve this kind of reward because they reach an impressive success during their pro and now already line in the boxing hall of famers.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: chaser15 on January 11, 2024, 01:37:24 PM
What could else be the reason why this fight is triggered? Of course man, it's the money they'll cash after this fight. If Paul Brothers were able to sell their respective fights and earn millions, for sure Mayweather and Pac would not miss that opportunity to make easy money. Besides, they deserve this kind of reward because they reach an impressive success during their pro and now already line in the boxing hall of famers.

It's not just a simple money reason why that plan was triggered. It's because there are lots of calls after the Pacquiao vs Mayweather 1 that a rematch should happen. If both were just eyeing some money they could face each other several times before but it didn't materialize since Mayweather is near retirement and of course, protecting his 50-0 legacy. :)

Since they are now both retired, the massive demand to see them facing each other again is only possible now in an exhibition match. It even took several years in the making before this plan turned into a real one. It's good to see both boxers not on their too old age facing each other even only in an exhibition match.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 20, 2024, 12:50:37 PM
I wasn't even aware of that, but apparently the Philippines tried to get Many to fight in the Paris Olympics.
Unfortunately, it won't happen due to a little-known rule saying that the max age for the boxers is 40. Pacquiao is now 45.
They tried to get the IOC to make an exemption but it didn't work.
I don't quite understand what's the point of having a maximum age limit. I'm guessing it's probably due to health concerns etc, but it should be down to each country to decide for themselves.

https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/39552058/boxer-manny-pacquaio-45-compete-paris-olympics


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: btc_angela on February 20, 2024, 01:24:01 PM
I wasn't even aware of that, but apparently the Philippines tried to get Many to fight in the Paris Olympics.
Unfortunately, it won't happen due to a little-known rule saying that the max age for the boxers is 40. Pacquiao is now 45.
They tried to get the IOC to make an exemption but it didn't work.
I don't quite understand what's the point of having a maximum age limit. I'm guessing it's probably due to health concerns etc, but it should be down to each country to decide for themselves.

https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/39552058/boxer-manny-pacquaio-45-compete-paris-olympics

I was about to also posts this when I saw this thread, but you beat me to it. Nevertheless, it's good that the IOC uphold their rule that no boxer is allowed as the age limit is 40 years. So it's good, unlike those governing bodies that is so corrupt that they will chance their rules to accommodate a boxer and have them fight in their organizations.

As for this rematch, I haven't seen any official news yet. Maybe in the future we will see this fight, but not this year as Floyd has a fight and the same with Manny fighting Buakaw. So if this fight is going to happen, it might be early for next year, I reckon.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Zigabel on February 20, 2024, 01:39:00 PM

I had taught Pacquiao had retired from active boxing but it's really interesting to know he's back in the rings again,  fighting wit Mayweather is just the best bet to get the kind of audience he may be wanting and they are definitely going to make a good revenue from the view a d audience this match will attract, I know somehow both of them may have an agreement back stage and there will definitely be intentions behind this game but nevertheless it's an anticipation for so many because the last time both had a fight years ago, it was epic and a rematch is something people wouldn't want to miss.

I would just watch to enjoy the game and wouldn't be supporting or routing for any of them because both brings home entertainment with their boxing and this match to me is looking like it's got a reason behind which isn't made known to the public just yet so watching for entertainment would be the best bet.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Maslate on February 20, 2024, 01:44:48 PM

I had taught Pacquiao had retired from active boxing but it's really interesting to know he's back in the rings again,  fighting wit Mayweather is just the best bet to get the kind of audience he may be wanting and they are definitely going to make a good revenue from the view a d audience this match will attract, I know somehow both of them may have an agreement back stage and there will definitely be intentions behind this game but nevertheless it's an anticipation for so many because the last time both had a fight years ago, it was epic and a rematch is something people wouldn't want to miss.

I would just watch to enjoy the game and wouldn't be supporting or routing for any of them because both brings home entertainment with their boxing and this match to me is looking like it's got a reason behind which isn't made known to the public just yet so watching for entertainment would be the best bet.
He retired from pro boxing, and this one is just an exhibition match, so it doesn't affect his record or Mayweather's record. Mayweather will remain undefeated even if he loses, as it's not a professional bout. I think this is a trend for popular boxers. It's not surprising to see them in exhibition matches because even if they are out of the pro scene, exhibition matches can still generate a lot of money for them. In fact, some exhibition matches generate more money compared to professional boxing.

About Manny being unable to participate in the Olympics, it's quite disappointing. However, it's puzzling why they would try to hype that when they were already aware of the age limit. They may have given false hope.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Quidat on February 20, 2024, 02:10:49 PM
I wasn't even aware of that, but apparently the Philippines tried to get Many to fight in the Paris Olympics.
Unfortunately, it won't happen due to a little-known rule saying that the max age for the boxers is 40. Pacquiao is now 45.
They tried to get the IOC to make an exemption but it didn't work.
I don't quite understand what's the point of having a maximum age limit. I'm guessing it's probably due to health concerns etc, but it should be down to each country to decide for themselves.

https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/39552058/boxer-manny-pacquaio-45-compete-paris-olympics
Well rules are rules, regulations are regulations and no matter how known you are then there would be no exemptions. Its clear on here on what they are trying out to protect on which it
would really be pertaining about those athletes or fighters health.. 45+ age might not really be that old but whats been stated should be followed. They try to request but failed
then there's nothing we can do about it. Also, is it a bit unfair for letting him join or participate on Olympics? thats a sure gold i should say.


Would this Mayweather vs Pacquiao 2 would be pushed through?



Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: bettercrypto on February 20, 2024, 02:34:04 PM

I had taught Pacquiao had retired from active boxing but it's really interesting to know he's back in the rings again,  fighting wit Mayweather is just the best bet to get the kind of audience he may be wanting and they are definitely going to make a good revenue from the view a d audience this match will attract, I know somehow both of them may have an agreement back stage and there will definitely be intentions behind this game but nevertheless it's an anticipation for so many because the last time both had a fight years ago, it was epic and a rematch is something people wouldn't want to miss.

I would just watch to enjoy the game and wouldn't be supporting or routing for any of them because both brings home entertainment with their boxing and this match to me is looking like it's got a reason behind which isn't made known to the public just yet so watching for entertainment would be the best bet.

Well, I think it's very unlikely that Floyd Mayweather agreed to fight Manny Paquiao because he still has a lot of wealth and fame. But maybe when he feels that the endorsing companies are not approaching him and there are no promoters interested in him in the world of the boxing industry, he will surely agree to fight Pacquiao.

So when that happens, Manny Paquiao probably has no interest in fighting with him, so let's see, it's just my assessment, and I think there is no certainty yet. After all, times are changing.
But if this is just an exhibition I think nothing will be lose to Maywheather on this events even He lose.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 20, 2024, 02:43:02 PM
Well rules are rules, regulations are regulations and no matter how known you are then there would be no exemptions. Its clear on here on what they are trying out to protect on which it
would really be pertaining about those athletes or fighters health.. 45+ age might not really be that old but whats been stated should be followed. They try to request but failed
then there's nothing we can do about it. Also, is it a bit unfair for letting him join or participate on Olympics? thats a sure gold i should say.
I don't think they asked for any special treatment for him. The Philippine Olympic Committee tried to get him a slot under the "Universality Rule". Universality slots typically go to countries without much representation in the Olympics, but the Philippines didn't quite qualify for that.
There's no harm in asking though, maybe they thought the IOC would consider dropping that max age of 40 rule (not only for Pacquiao, but for everyone).
Would this Mayweather vs Pacquiao 2 would be pushed through?
No idea. Olympics are in the Summer and the exact date of the fight is still unknown. Anyhow, Many is not going to compete in Paris so there's no collision.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Belarge on February 20, 2024, 02:58:51 PM
Well, I think it's very unlikely that Floyd Mayweather agreed to fight Manny Paquiao because he still has a lot of wealth and fame. But maybe when he feels that the endorsing companies are not approaching him and there are no promoters interested in him in the world of the boxing industry, he will surely agree to fight Pacquiao.

So when that happens, Manny Paquiao probably has no interest in fighting with him, so let's see, it's just my assessment, and I think there is no certainty yet. After all, times are changing.
But if this is just an exhibition I think nothing will be lose to Maywheather on this events even He lose.
Floyd Mayweather, we know him to be one of the fighters that enjoyed very bit of his time as a fighter, winning belts and living up the luxurious lifestyle, buying exotic cars and owning flamboyant homes, Mayweather lived his life to the fullest and have investment everywhere tangible in his country, he have earned his time as a fighter in the ring, feared by many due to his fierce and uncomfortable strength, he gives in everything to achieve major titles. Perhapes he's aged and I don't think he still full energy left, though once a fighter is always a fighter, he still got some tactics and KO for his opponents.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: TravelMug on February 20, 2024, 08:35:33 PM

I had taught Pacquiao had retired from active boxing but it's really interesting to know he's back in the rings again,  fighting wit Mayweather is just the best bet to get the kind of audience he may be wanting and they are definitely going to make a good revenue from the view a d audience this match will attract, I know somehow both of them may have an agreement back stage and there will definitely be intentions behind this game but nevertheless it's an anticipation for so many because the last time both had a fight years ago, it was epic and a rematch is something people wouldn't want to miss.

He retired as pro after he lost to Ugas, but then come back to fight in exhibition matches against a South Korean Youtuber. Definitely fighting Mayweather is for fun and for the money as there are still fans that can't get over what happen on their first fight. Pacquiao lost but it could have been a different story if they fight during their primes.

I would just watch to enjoy the game and wouldn't be supporting or routing for any of them because both brings home entertainment with their boxing and this match to me is looking like it's got a reason behind which isn't made known to the public just yet so watching for entertainment would be the best bet.

The PPV tickets might be expensive though, but we all know that there are ways that we can watch this fight for free, if you know what I mean. Nevertheless it's not yet final, this is just rumor for now. But for fans of both, even at exhibition fight, we will love to see this two legends again in the ring.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 21, 2024, 01:22:48 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,

Quote
Floyd Mayweather Jr has refused to rule out an exhibition boxing match with Manny Pacquiao in Japan later this year.

"Next year, I hope to see you here in Japan with a big fight against…", Pacquiao said at RIZIN 45 as he looked over to RIZIN chief executive Nobuyiki Sakakibara.

"Floyd Mayweather," Sakakibara announced.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595

So both legendary boxers are trying to tease their fights, with this kind of statement specially coming from Floyd. We always says that Floyd doesn't want to give Manny a rematch. But maybe in a exhibition match, we will see that finally this two will fight in the ring again. And with the money is right in the table, obviously Floyd can't refuse it specially coming from the Japanese who loves him over there, same with Manny Pacquaio. It could be like what he did before, the fight happening at New Year next year. Better keep this thread alive, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Russlenat on February 21, 2024, 01:29:35 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,

Quote
Floyd Mayweather Jr has refused to rule out an exhibition boxing match with Manny Pacquiao in Japan later this year.

"Next year, I hope to see you here in Japan with a big fight against…", Pacquiao said at RIZIN 45 as he looked over to RIZIN chief executive Nobuyiki Sakakibara.

"Floyd Mayweather," Sakakibara announced.

https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595

So both legendary boxers are trying to tease their fights, with this kind of statement specially coming from Floyd. We always says that Floyd doesn't want to give Manny a rematch. But maybe in a exhibition match, we will see that finally this two will fight in the ring again. And with the money is right in the table, obviously Floyd can't refuse it specially coming from the Japanese who loves him over there, same with Manny Pacquaio. It could be like what he did before, the fight happening at New Year next year. Better keep this thread alive, in my opinion.

Great news. Although Mayweather hasn't confirmed yet, his statement is enough to expect that this big exhibition match will happen. It's not just about the venue; it's the money they will make in this fight, and we are certainly talking about millions. Mayweather could not resist that, given he is living a lavish life. The same goes for Manny; although he is busy with his businesses, he is leading an expensive life. So, getting millions from an exhibition match is something no boxer would say no to. They'll seize the opportunity to make easy money using their popularity. A legend versus legend matchup is a recipe for huge revenue.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 21, 2024, 05:38:02 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,
(...)
https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595
(...)

Thanks for the link. So maybe it's not enough to call it "official" yet, but since Pacquiao and RIZIN's Chief Exec have confirmed it, and since Mayweather is not denying it, it's fair to assume the fight is at least pre-agreed and probably in a stage of contract negotiations. Or maybe the contract is already signed but they're just waiting to officially announce it closer to the date so the hype doesn't die out before the fight.
Both are willing to fight so it's only down to agreeing on the money.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: ChiBitCTy on February 21, 2024, 05:42:02 PM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 21, 2024, 08:15:10 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,
(...)
https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595
(...)

Thanks for the link. So maybe it's not enough to call it "official" yet, but since Pacquiao and RIZIN's Chief Exec have confirmed it, and since Mayweather is not denying it, it's fair to assume the fight is at least pre-agreed and probably in a stage of contract negotiations. Or maybe the contract is already signed but they're just waiting to officially announce it closer to the date so the hype doesn't die out before the fight.
Both are willing to fight so it's only down to agreeing on the money.
And hopefully that both parties or teams wont really be that so greedy when it comes to share or their part so that this one would really be already fixed out.Tons of fans are really that waiting up for this rematch
and we do know that this is something that it is really that interesting to watch despite of being an exhibition fight and not official since both are retired but it would really be always nice to see
these legends to fight inside the ring on which we havent been able to see on whose the better guy.Yes, MP had been beaten up by Mayweather but that one isnt really that something
satisfying win. Right?


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: OgNasty on February 21, 2024, 08:38:46 PM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

I agree with your thoughts but I think my money will be going on Mayweather. I’ve heard bad things about Pacquiao over the years and don’t think he’s been staying in shape the same way Mayweather has. We’ll see though. I’d love nothing more than you being right and Mayweather getting handed a humbling defeat.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Kemarit on February 21, 2024, 10:45:01 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,
(...)
https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595
(...)

Thanks for the link. So maybe it's not enough to call it "official" yet, but since Pacquiao and RIZIN's Chief Exec have confirmed it, and since Mayweather is not denying it, it's fair to assume the fight is at least pre-agreed and probably in a stage of contract negotiations. Or maybe the contract is already signed but they're just waiting to officially announce it closer to the date so the hype doesn't die out before the fight.
Both are willing to fight so it's only down to agreeing on the money.

And I think RIZIN has so much influence on this two boxers that maybe we can say that 90% this fight could be done in the future. Mayweather will still be the A-side here, 60-40 split is not that bad for Pacquiao.

This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

I definitely agree, but we can't compare era's. Same with other sports as well, in NBA we love Michael Jordan, but now it's totally different ball game. I've read that majority didn't like what they see in the All Star. Going back to this topic, it will be good if the fight is happening at the end of the year. It will be huge for boxing fans even if this is just a exhibition match. Enough for us to see again Mayweather and Pacquiao promoting this fight and the hype on it.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: TravelMug on February 22, 2024, 09:06:25 AM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

I agree with your thoughts but I think my money will be going on Mayweather. I’ve heard bad things about Pacquiao over the years and don’t think he’s been staying in shape the same way Mayweather has. We’ll see though. I’d love nothing more than you being right and Mayweather getting handed a humbling defeat.

I think Pacquiao is also staying shape, he is athletic maybe others didn't know that, he loves basketball and he even had his own basketball league in the Philippines. And I think even after retirement, he is still solid welterweight to super welterweight walking around 150 lbs. And there are recent videos of Manny Pacquiao hitting with Buboy, his long time friend and trainer and you can hear those thugs when he hits him even with a training and safety gloves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIQoICr7yko

So let's see if this fight is going to happen based on Floyd teasing us recently or just wanted to have the attention again.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: btc_angela on February 22, 2024, 09:07:17 PM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

It's due as well to this promoters and boxing bodies that turn into a corrupt organizations. That's why we haven't seen the best fights, except maybe Manny when he was still in the lower weight class and fighting Mexican greats. But after that decade, boxing become soft in my opinion.

Organizations seems to be not implementing mandatories, they just allow promoters to pay them so that they will not impose it to their fighters. Turning into a business and so it lost some of appeal to the fans. Nevertheless if this two are going to fight again, for sure we will all love to see them do it again one more time.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Dave1 on February 22, 2024, 09:35:18 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,
(...)
https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595
(...)

Thanks for the link. So maybe it's not enough to call it "official" yet, but since Pacquiao and RIZIN's Chief Exec have confirmed it, and since Mayweather is not denying it, it's fair to assume the fight is at least pre-agreed and probably in a stage of contract negotiations. Or maybe the contract is already signed but they're just waiting to officially announce it closer to the date so the hype doesn't die out before the fight.
Both are willing to fight so it's only down to agreeing on the money.
And hopefully that both parties or teams wont really be that so greedy when it comes to share or their part so that this one would really be already fixed out.Tons of fans are really that waiting up for this rematch
and we do know that this is something that it is really that interesting to watch despite of being an exhibition fight and not official since both are retired but it would really be always nice to see
these legends to fight inside the ring on which we havent been able to see on whose the better guy.Yes, MP had been beaten up by Mayweather but that one isnt really that something
satisfying win. Right?

They will be greedy for sure, because it's all about the money that they can generate and that's why both parties are willing to do it. And I think that's their motivation here, it's more on the financial side now as compare to who is the best of their generation and it has been debated for many years since they retire, Mayweather's 50-0 undefeated, or Pacman's record of 8 divisional champion that has never been done before.

I saw in one thread that Canelo is commanding $35 million in his next fight. So what's more here? Most likely it could be in the tune of $50 million guaranteed each of them. So definitely, there are a lot of money to be made and it could really make profits for Rizin too if they are the one who is going to make this fight.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: OgNasty on February 22, 2024, 09:38:38 PM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

It's due as well to this promoters and boxing bodies that turn into a corrupt organizations. That's why we haven't seen the best fights, except maybe Manny when he was still in the lower weight class and fighting Mexican greats. But after that decade, boxing become soft in my opinion.

Organizations seems to be not implementing mandatories, they just allow promoters to pay them so that they will not impose it to their fighters. Turning into a business and so it lost some of appeal to the fans. Nevertheless if this two are going to fight again, for sure we will all love to see them do it again one more time.

I think it also has to do with the sport's popularity suffering as a result of the rise in popularity of the UFC.  Most people don't know who the big up and coming boxers are and aren't even able to tell you who the current champions are.  As a result, people in the boxing business have had to resort to throwing whatever name the public will recognize out there in hopes of earning a payday.  I suspect it will get worse until another Mike Tyson comes along and reinvigorates the sport.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Lanatsa on February 22, 2024, 09:55:24 PM
It looks like this fight might likely to happen in the future,
(...)
https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-hints-pacquiao-exhibition--181595
(...)

Thanks for the link. So maybe it's not enough to call it "official" yet, but since Pacquiao and RIZIN's Chief Exec have confirmed it, and since Mayweather is not denying it, it's fair to assume the fight is at least pre-agreed and probably in a stage of contract negotiations. Or maybe the contract is already signed but they're just waiting to officially announce it closer to the date so the hype doesn't die out before the fight.
Both are willing to fight so it's only down to agreeing on the money.
And hopefully that both parties or teams wont really be that so greedy when it comes to share or their part so that this one would really be already fixed out.Tons of fans are really that waiting up for this rematch
and we do know that this is something that it is really that interesting to watch despite of being an exhibition fight and not official since both are retired but it would really be always nice to see
these legends to fight inside the ring on which we havent been able to see on whose the better guy.Yes, MP had been beaten up by Mayweather but that one isnt really that something
satisfying win. Right?

They will be greedy for sure, because it's all about the money that they can generate and that's why both parties are willing to do it. And I think that's their motivation here, it's more on the financial side now as compare to who is the best of their generation and it has been debated for many years since they retire, Mayweather's 50-0 undefeated, or Pacman's record of 8 divisional champion that has never been done before.

I saw in one thread that Canelo is commanding $35 million in his next fight. So what's more here? Most likely it could be in the tune of $50 million guaranteed each of them. So definitely, there are a lot of money to be made and it could really make profits for Rizin too if they are the one who is going to make this fight.
We do know that boxing is still business then it would be no surprise that they would really be having those deals and its likely that they would be having that 50% split up.
Just like been said above that both are already retired so it wont be that shocking they will really be that focusing on how much they would be making out on this fight since we know that
this is really a hyped fight on which most boxing fans are longing for.

Did look out for some information on that tentative fight which stated on here.
Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are geared for a boxing rematch in 2024. Pacquiao unveiled the fight plans live at RIZIN 45 on December 31
https://www.si.com/fannation/mma/boxing/boxing-news-manny-pacquiao-vs-floyd-mayweather-fight-announced-for-2024


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Casdinyard on February 23, 2024, 11:18:44 PM
They will be greedy for sure, because it's all about the money that they can generate and that's why both parties are willing to do it. And I think that's their motivation here, it's more on the financial side now as compare to who is the best of their generation and it has been debated for many years since they retire, Mayweather's 50-0 undefeated, or Pacman's record of 8 divisional champion that has never been done before.

I saw in one thread that Canelo is commanding $35 million in his next fight. So what's more here? Most likely it could be in the tune of $50 million guaranteed each of them. So definitely, there are a lot of money to be made and it could really make profits for Rizin too if they are the one who is going to make this fight.
You still couldn't deny the bad-blood side of things. On one hand we got someone who fought by the book and won in technicalities and another side who thought they got cheated out of their supposedly final and most monumental win, and a massive dent at the opponent's record.

Ever wondered why despite the fact that the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight's advertised by many sports network as the last fight for Pacquiao before he hang his gloves, only to come back to boxing a couple more times until last 2022? Because he's a lost sheep. He wanted to fight Mayweather, got a taste of it, and instead of getting his self-actualization what he instead received is a pack-full of self-doubt and a hole in his wallet. He fought other fighters afterwards to chase the high and probably find the same actualized feeling by beating other fighters but it just won't do. He needs to fight Mayweather and beat him this time. Which is why there's a huge chance this fight's gonna happen.

Add to that the fact that he's got a lot of time in his hands now that he's not running for Presidency, and his plea to be allowed to participate in the Olympics despite the age limit is denied, and we got a solid chance at seeing these two folks pit it out again soon.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Dave1 on February 24, 2024, 12:22:41 AM
They will be greedy for sure, because it's all about the money that they can generate and that's why both parties are willing to do it. And I think that's their motivation here, it's more on the financial side now as compare to who is the best of their generation and it has been debated for many years since they retire, Mayweather's 50-0 undefeated, or Pacman's record of 8 divisional champion that has never been done before.

I saw in one thread that Canelo is commanding $35 million in his next fight. So what's more here? Most likely it could be in the tune of $50 million guaranteed each of them. So definitely, there are a lot of money to be made and it could really make profits for Rizin too if they are the one who is going to make this fight.
You still couldn't deny the bad-blood side of things. On one hand we got someone who fought by the book and won in technicalities and another side who thought they got cheated out of their supposedly final and most monumental win, and a massive dent at the opponent's record.

Ever wondered why despite the fact that the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight's advertised by many sports network as the last fight for Pacquiao before he hang his gloves, only to come back to boxing a couple more times until last 2022? Because he's a lost sheep. He wanted to fight Mayweather, got a taste of it, and instead of getting his self-actualization what he instead received is a pack-full of self-doubt and a hole in his wallet. He fought other fighters afterwards to chase the high and probably find the same actualized feeling by beating other fighters but it just won't do. He needs to fight Mayweather and beat him this time. Which is why there's a huge chance this fight's gonna happen.

It was only the many sports networks that might have advertised it, but as fans we all know that Manny will be back despite that lost he had with Floyd and he actually did and guess what, he won against Thurman and become the oldest 147 lbs champion. So he had accomplished things after that defeat from Floyd and so I didn't think that he had open doors for Manny or the so called self-actualization that you are referring to.

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Pacquiao was named as the Fighter of the Decade for years 2000–2009 by the Boxing Writers Association of America (BWAA).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_career_of_Manny_Pacquiao

So he had accomplished a lot of things before fighting Floyd. This is exhibition fight, nothing will be recorded in their pro record as far as I know.

This is for the fans and obviously, they will get a lot of money too.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Psynthax on February 24, 2024, 12:34:17 AM
This is where I have great disdain for the boxing world.  No longer are we in the "golden era" for boxing where we had all these great heavyweights like Tyson, Lewis, etc, but you had some solid mid to light weight fighters as well.  Then of course boxing fell off a cliff for quite some time.  Pac vs Mayweather should have happened the first time long ago when the sport needed it.  I absolutely despite Mayweather as he legitimately a horrible human being.  Even though its a day late and a dollar short I'll be watching and rooting for Pacman to destroy Mayweather. Maybe if he hits him hard enough he'll be able to read all of a sudden.

It's due as well to this promoters and boxing bodies that turn into a corrupt organizations. That's why we haven't seen the best fights, except maybe Manny when he was still in the lower weight class and fighting Mexican greats. But after that decade, boxing become soft in my opinion.

Organizations seems to be not implementing mandatories, they just allow promoters to pay them so that they will not impose it to their fighters. Turning into a business and so it lost some of appeal to the fans. Nevertheless if this two are going to fight again, for sure we will all love to see them do it again one more time.
seriously these boxing worlds really need big fights again, mayweather is just stomping the small guys these days not even remotely fun anymore only if things are different and the legends are still in action.
even though there are many stars and we all know that manny are only up for political things these days still doesn't even remotely revive the hypes like it was before when manny was still fighting.
personally I was always fan of him but alas i don't expect him to make a comeback regardless.
I think he just stays with politics and not gonna make a come back after all ages also plays a big role here.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 24, 2024, 03:40:26 AM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not. At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Russlenat on February 24, 2024, 08:58:25 PM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not. At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.

Just believe that it will push through. Mayweather doesn't need to do that; he knows he's getting a huge amount of money in this fight, so he'll make this happen. What we read are just some rumors trying to hype the fight more. They know it will attract the crowd, but knowing Mayweather, he is good at attracting the attention of the fans, either loyal to him or his haters. This guy is undoubtedly very good at marketing a fight in a unique way.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 26, 2024, 12:49:32 AM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not. At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.

Just believe that it will push through. Mayweather doesn't need to do that; he knows he's getting a huge amount of money in this fight, so he'll make this happen. What we read are just some rumors trying to hype the fight more. They know it will attract the crowd, but knowing Mayweather, he is good at attracting the attention of the fans, either loyal to him or his haters. This guy is undoubtedly very good at marketing a fight in a unique way.

I'm not even sure if I wanted this fight to push through. In the first place this is not going to be a very competitive match because this is just an exhibition match. Although some pride and honor are probably at stake because they have a past and they might not have completely moved on from it, especially Pacquiao since he was defeated, I think this is not going to be as heated as when they were still professionals who are hungry of wins. I think the most loyal fans of both fighters are the ones who will take this match very seriously.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 26, 2024, 05:11:53 PM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not. At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.

The fight is most likely pre-agreed and in the contract negotiations phase, although it's possible that the contract is already signed and they're just waiting for the right time to announce it officially.
When Many Pacquiao first told the world about it, he went silent, paused and looked at N. Sakakibara (the CEO of Rizin) for approval and think he got a green light from him. So it's not quite like Many or his team blabbed about it.
There's zero chance the agreement would fall through just because it was (allegedly) announced too soon. If they fail to sign the contract, it'll probably be the money issues.

On a second thought, it might have been a "controlled leaked" of a sort, just to test if this will spark a lot of interest from the public. I think it did.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: TravelMug on February 27, 2024, 09:22:21 AM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not. At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.

Just believe that it will push through. Mayweather doesn't need to do that; he knows he's getting a huge amount of money in this fight, so he'll make this happen. What we read are just some rumors trying to hype the fight more. They know it will attract the crowd, but knowing Mayweather, he is good at attracting the attention of the fans, either loyal to him or his haters. This guy is undoubtedly very good at marketing a fight in a unique way.

I'm not even sure if I wanted this fight to push through. In the first place this is not going to be a very competitive match because this is just an exhibition match. Although some pride and honor are probably at stake because they have a past and they might not have completely moved on from it, especially Pacquiao since he was defeated, I think this is not going to be as heated as when they were still professionals who are hungry of wins. I think the most loyal fans of both fighters are the ones who will take this match very seriously.

When there are a lot of money in the line, I think this fight is going to happen. The Japanese backers, Rizin is willing to shoulder it, so what the 2 boxers will do is so called train and hype the fight just like what they did the first time. And there are fans that are still willing to see and buy the tickets, meaning there are still demand despite how many years that both of them are retired professionally. Although Floyd is the more busier, having a lot of exhibitions and he is the one started the whole trend of former boxers/MMA coming out of retirement and then doing exhibition fight for the money. Casual fans might also still think that they want to see this fight happening, even if this is just for exhibition.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: sunsilk on February 27, 2024, 09:50:28 AM
There are confusions as to whether this exhibition fight is going to happen or not.
It's been announced long before the actual date and they've got their own commitments so it's truly hard to say if this is going to happen or not. With that, it's always been Floyd setting the condition about their share and I think that MP has been charged with millions for just saying his name as it violates the contract.

I am not sure with that but that's what I've read somewhere or it's just a bluff.

At first this was just a rumor but then I read some news that Pacquiao actually revealed that a negotiation is happening away from the media for this fight. But then Mayweather came out all of a sudden accusing the Pacquiao camp of revealing what was agreed in the contract to be kept secret until it is officially announced. So now it seems the negotiations are falling apart. We will hear in the coming days whether this will push through or not.
I think this was also part of the violation where MP has been charged with a lot of money. But, it's them that have to talk about it and they know that whether they fight or not, they'll still be part of the talks of the fans.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 27, 2024, 05:42:16 PM
I think it also has to do with the sport's popularity suffering as a result of the rise in popularity of the UFC.  Most people don't know who the big up and coming boxers are and aren't even able to tell you who the current champions are.  As a result, people in the boxing business have had to resort to throwing whatever name the public will recognize out there in hopes of earning a payday.  I suspect it will get worse until another Mike Tyson comes along and reinvigorates the sport.

That could be true to some degree, but I'm not sure if mma is still gaining in popularity or if it also reached its peak. You see similar nostalgia among the UFC fans saying things were more exciting back then and that things get stale.
I think the popularity of combat sports comes in waves, with ups and downs.
At the same time, we live in unprecedented times when everything is competing for people's attention, from all types of social media to videos/movies on demand (YouTube/Netflix etc). It's way harder for any entertainment industry to compete. Probably boxing is still doing better (in terms of maintaining popularity) than say Hollywood productions.
Personally, my interest in boxing has started to go up recently, and I think 2024 will be a year of some great fights.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: Fatunad on February 27, 2024, 06:23:18 PM
I think it also has to do with the sport's popularity suffering as a result of the rise in popularity of the UFC.  Most people don't know who the big up and coming boxers are and aren't even able to tell you who the current champions are.  As a result, people in the boxing business have had to resort to throwing whatever name the public will recognize out there in hopes of earning a payday.  I suspect it will get worse until another Mike Tyson comes along and reinvigorates the sport.

That could be true to some degree, but I'm not sure if mma is still gaining in popularity or if it also reached its peak. You see similar nostalgia among the UFC fans saying things were more exciting back then and that things get stale.
I think the popularity of combat sports comes in waves, with ups and downs.
At the same time, we live in unprecedented times when everything is competing for people's attention, from all types of social media to videos/movies on demand (YouTube/Netflix etc). It's way harder for any entertainment industry to compete. Probably boxing is still doing better (in terms of maintaining popularity) than say Hollywood productions.
Personally, my interest in boxing has started to go up recently, and I think 2024 will be a year of some great fights.
Actually you did really have a point in speaking about that popularity is really that still maintaining but i do agree on what Ognasty said above in this regard on which you could really be able not to see on who are the current champions and the current that are climbing up on the ladder due into these kind of unofficial fights. Yes, its not bad to have these things but it turns out that this has become the trend now.
Retired legend fighters or boxers are really that trying out to still make millions on setting up these kind of exhibition fights on which they are really that getting more traction compared into those
official fights that we do really have as of today but well lets just deal up on how this industry would really be going on, as long it could bring out that entertainment then interest would really be pushing through.


Title: Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao II
Post by: pawel7777 on February 27, 2024, 10:46:37 PM
Retired legend fighters or boxers are really that trying out to still make millions on setting up these kind of exhibition fights on which they are really that getting more traction compared into those official fights that we do really have as of today but well lets just deal up on how this industry would really be going on, as long it could bring out that entertainment then interest would really be pushing through.

I don't think the exhibition fights of "retired" fighters take anything away from official bouts. If anything, they drive a lot of new fans into the sport. Usually, the main event would be preceded by fights of active boxers, who would then get a chance to make themselves known to a wider audience. So win-win.

As for the fight between Pacquiao Vs Mayweather, despite Floyd being the favourite, Manny will bring in a lot more views, as he has the status of a hero in his home country and among the Filipino diaspora worldwide. I don't think Floyd has ever had any strong fan base, boxing connoisseurs enjoyed him for his skills but there weren't that many people truly rooting for him.