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Title: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Questat on January 03, 2024, 04:48:25 AM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Oshosondy on January 03, 2024, 06:51:40 AM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Natsuu on January 03, 2024, 06:59:27 AM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.


Right. If the big teams aren't doing so hot lately, take the chance on the underdogs. Just trust the gut feeling and check if the strong clubs are on a losing streak. If the big-shot teams have been slacking off in their recent games, it could be a sign they're not at their best.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: alani123 on January 03, 2024, 10:32:57 AM
Such bets are worth it for me sometimes, but only if I'm familiar with the league or the association teams playing.
Sometimes many markets don't have enough bets on the actually best team, and in such the moneyline doesn't get tipped to the most likely direction it would be.
So if you're early to a market you can catch good odds on a team that actually has good chances to win.

Betting on an underdog imho wouldn't be worth it unless the odds were significantly higher.

So for the example mentioned in the OP, I don't think Pacers are that much of an underdog and the odds actually make sense. If the match was something like Celtics vs Wizards with these odds, it'd make absolutely no sense to bet on Wizards with these odds given the past performance their team has had in the league. It'd be a bargain to bet on the Bucks however.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Mr.suevie on January 03, 2024, 10:38:12 AM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.
Many people are influenced by the odd and I would count myself to be a victim too but I know that so many gamblers would prefer betting on under dog as they believe the bookmakers are doing that just to confuse them to make the wrong decision. I have bet on under dog before that's in respect of their odd difference but the stats between the two teams shows  that the under dog is more active to win the game so I choose to select sometimes due to their performance irrespective of their odds difference and not always but sometimes it does work for me.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Oilacris on January 03, 2024, 10:46:31 AM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.


Right. If the big teams aren't doing so hot lately, take the chance on the underdogs. Just trust the gut feeling and check if the strong clubs are on a losing streak. If the big-shot teams have been slacking off in their recent games, it could be a sign they're not at their best.
Not really that much of an assurance on which we do know that even on sports, we do really have also that so called "bad day" and there's no such thing about 100% winning rate on which
there would really be those times or moments on which you could really be able to notice that favorite teams arent performing well basing up into its previous games on which it is really that normal that you would really be having impressions that the next games would really be the same but it would really be that always hard to stick into that idea since games could really be changed up.
Betting on underdogs could really give out that huge hesitance but your gut feeling would really be telling and keep pushing you to have some bet at least
because if you do counter up things and giving out that different result or getting in line with those inner voices and gut feeling then that would really be leaving out that kind of long lasting regret.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Text on January 03, 2024, 11:08:44 AM
I’ve been in a similar strategy before where my only target was the higher payout without conducting research or making analysis, which is a very risky move. It's still better if you have a basis for why you chose the underdog and not just because of a guess. For this scenario, I’m confident in Indiana’s ability to at least keep the game close or even win; the higher odds with the spread might be an attractive proposition. For me, sports betting comes with 50% luck and 50% strategy. It’s important to analyze the teams’ recent performances, player statistics, and other factors that could influence the game's outcome. If you don't depend solely on luck, you can improve your chances by making strategic decisions based on solid research.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Getmon on January 03, 2024, 11:42:20 AM
It relies upon the matches bud. Yesterday I lost the -4.5 handicap with only 1.50x on the Milwaukee Bucks. Because the Bucks are playing in their stadium, I had no idea I would lose that wager.

The Bucks will want their vengeance, but if they can win, it will not be easy. In their return match at Indiana, I anticipate the Pacers to become even better with their fans cheering on them. The Milwaukee Bucks stay the favorite choice because they are consistently on top of the league but in this particular match, I am placing a bet on the -2.50 with a 2.50x odds on the Pacers.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 03, 2024, 12:01:34 PM
Sometimes I would bet on underdog and get a favorite spread. It will pay off sometimes but there's always an algorithm on it and that we cannot abuse the bookies. Just like the concluded game of Celtics vs OKC, Celtics was -4 before the game, so if you bet on OKC -2.5, I think you'll get more than 2.50 of odds, but like I mentioned it does not happen often, so you have to be choosy on what game you'll bet on.

If you want to experiment on your own, might as well put a record so you can confirm. I think most bettors here would choose lower odds with higher chances of winning, or at least they only based on odds to calculat the chances of winning.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Hirose UK on January 03, 2024, 12:19:12 PM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.

You are right, and indeed when there is match involving strong team then consideration must be made by looking at the Odds on the favorite team whether it is worth betting on.
By choosing favorite team, you may have big chance of winning, but the Odds will probably be very low, such as 1.1 to 1.3
This is very small profit multiple and of course you have to face the risk of surprises that could happen.
A strong favorite team will not always win because there are losses and draws, this is an unexpected surprise and always causes gamblers to experience defeat.
But if everyone is sure to win with Odds that have been considered or are worth betting on, such as more than 1.5, then we can take the risk by betting money on betting option that we are sure of.
Moreover, Handicap bets are not easy to predict correctly and Handicap bets often cause gamblers to make mistakes and end up losing.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: dothebeats on January 03, 2024, 12:47:05 PM
I used to do this on 2020, and one thing I know is that deviating a couple of points from the spread and putting it on the favorites is always a good thing. From your example, that's a 4-point difference from the original spread, and it's there for a reason.

I could risk it at -2.5, but I could also play the other team to cover the spread  for a less riskier bet with a lesser number of returns. Those spreads are there for a reason, and with the tight spread, it means that one cannot really outscore the other by a lot of points. Sticking close to the spread is practically a good idea here, and -2.5 for Indiana with that much of a jump just means that it's quite improbable for them to reach such a result, let alone win. But if you're brave enough, you can put a medium bet on that and hedge live if there are lines offered


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: rodskee on January 03, 2024, 12:47:48 PM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.
I am a risky person in terms of gambling because I believe that if you are in gamble then
you can try harder about the luck so yeah I may do that specially if the team involves is one of my favorite?
then i will love going Underdog and try my luck to the limit.

but since I am not a regular gambler so I take the chances whenever i bet to risk more
in underdogs.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 03, 2024, 12:52:19 PM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.
I guess you have to look at other factors as well, like where is the game going to play as sometimes, homecourt advantage is still that, an advantage. And in their last game, Pacers won. But if you look at the odds today, it's the Bucks that is the favorite.

Currently, I see the line +2.5 Indiana @2.06, and then -2.5 for Bucks @1.81.

So in this case, I might go with the Bucks if that is the line, unless you really you think that Pacers are a live underdog.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Yogee on January 03, 2024, 01:40:43 PM
By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.
I usually bet on the +5 and up when it comes to underdogs. I would rather choose moneyline in your example though. I don't do that kind of spread on matchups that could go either way or too close to call. Another thing is that odds aren't that far apart so why risk losing a bet in a match that could be decided by 1 or 2 points.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Slow death on January 03, 2024, 07:40:36 PM
I definitely don't just bet on underdogs, when I look at a game I don't look at odds first, I try to see the condition of each team in the last games and how each player has been doing and after I have an idea of which of the teams will win in the game, so I go to the casino to see how the odds are, I've been doing this to not let myself be influenced by the casino's odds, because most of the time when the person first goes to the casino and sees the game, in the game, team Z has odds of 1.50 and team Y has an odds of 2.50, so the person immediately thinks that team Z will win the game because it is being seen as the favorite and the odds difference is large, but the person does not think that the odds makers analyzed that game their way

and they don't have a crystal ball, so they can make mistakes and for this reason the person must also analyze the game by counting on themselves before placing a bet, and if in the case of the person's analysis it is pointing towards team Y coming out as the winner, then the person must bet on team Y as the winner. There are many games where people make mistakes and people get it right. Now what people shouldn't do is bet on the underdogs in all games so they can test their luck and get it right and win a lot of money with high odds, I think these types of methods are not very good and cause long-term losses. but there are many people who like to do this. To this day, I still don't understand why someone wastes money on betting on the underdog just to test their luck.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: swogerino on January 03, 2024, 07:44:13 PM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

First of all I don't think Indiana is a big favorite against Milwaukee Bucks and I do not bet on such events.Anyway after seeing yesterday night Sacramento Kings losing to Charlotte Hornets is a big no for me to bet on money line on the basketball games anymore,it is simply out of my poor human logic how a team with 1.07 odd in basketball can lose with 104-111 result and not be able to score as many points as they usually do.

Getting back to your idea,it is a great idea to back the underdog but not with those small spreads,I would go and get the maximum in a basketball game,for example yesterday if we backed Charlotte Hornets with +11.5 or 13.5 points whichever was the maximum we would have won,of course no one thought about the surprise win they made.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Ruttoshi on January 03, 2024, 08:21:39 PM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.

Betting on underdog against a strong club is like throwing away your bet purposely but sometimes we get it wrong as gamble is something that is based on luck, sometimes the underdog wins the game and anyone that took the risk to bet on them will win big.

I have been lucky just once when I bet on an underdog club with 7 odds and I won big that day, I will say it was my luck and not that it normally happen, because for sure we all know that a strong club will definitely win the game.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Lida93 on January 04, 2024, 10:46:37 AM
This is what we gamblers that bet mostly on football games do encounter and what will propel me to bet in favour of an underdog team against a bigger team in the league is when the big team has been playing below average in their series of recent performances in all games. Under such circumstance as a gambler you can take the chances of risking it in favour of an underdog team against them.

We can take the English Premier League for instance  Chelsea has been inconsistent with their performance having incurred many losses in their games especially against underdog clubs, so with that as a gambler going by Chelsea performance this season you can have the courage to  bet in favour of smaller team against them  believing that the chances of the underdog winning is highly possible except for some reasons you got unlucky on that day.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Peanutswar on January 04, 2024, 11:32:27 AM
I keep doing this all the time when I know the odds are really good we call this YOLO betting the meaning of it is you only live once, so you take a risk with the higher odds of course before doing this I know the potential of the team will play on this match, of course with the higher odds you can bet a small amount and being dependent on it, unlike with the potential winner of the game even you bet a large amount just a small percentage of return, sports game is one of the unpredictable game because of the will of the player or the team any thing can happen and make the table turns in just one mistake.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: EluguHcman on January 04, 2024, 11:53:40 AM
I may not be too familiar with playing on the Underdog and this set of risky predictions that the lesser influencer team to win to boosten the games odds is assumed to be as Such of other bets.
So yes, I can take the bet risk siding the Indiana to win even when it is historically and tensed obvious that they would loos the match. I have a mental believe that history can be broken in the sense that "the young shall grow" has finally grown" and so doing, they would posses the abilities to do the great wonders of the oldens and somedays, the olden has to grow weak and retires.

Not just as that but because I am a gambler, I would always stand on the chances of risk taking on what would either fetch me fun or increases my financial portfolios.
But on such a bet as OP has just illustrated, I would always go on that betting on the Indiana to win but yeah, I am staking with a tolerable amount of stake with the say that..... " Let me just spread this specific amount of stake to the air if it turns good, Okay to let go and if turns bad, I takes it a cheers of a risky trial of inevitables".


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: danherbias07 on January 04, 2024, 11:55:20 AM
I'll take the money line instead.
+2.5 is not that high although sometimes it can make the difference. But I will not put more risk in taking the -2.5. If there's a chance that the game will be close then I think I will be safer with just the money line.
But if they are offering +4.5 or +5.5 at a good price then I might pick those. Milwaukee Bucks is a tough team considering Giannis Antetokounmpo can score anytime he likes with those big muscles of him and his reach advantage. Then there's Damian Lillard who could become a big threat if he gets hot.
About the picks, I guess it depends on a gambler if he is more of a high-risk taker or one who loves to play it safe. Less profits but the chances to win are higher.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Viscore on January 04, 2024, 11:57:11 AM
I keep doing this all the time when I know the odds are really good we call this YOLO betting the meaning of it is you only live once, so you take a risk with the higher odds of course before doing this I know the potential of the team will play on this match, of course with the higher odds you can bet a small amount and being dependent on it, unlike with the potential winner of the game even you bet a large amount just a small percentage of return, sports game is one of the unpredictable game because of the will of the player or the team any thing can happen and make the table turns in just one mistake.

My definition of YOLO is different, it doesn't based on the odds but on the amount of money you bet. It's more like "all in" for me, and yes YOLO means "you only live once", so enjoy and problem go all in. Betting on original underdog team and make them a favorite, you'll getting more than 2.00 but less than 3.00, so not that much of a risk since underdogs though also win in games, just choose wisely.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: ultrloa on January 04, 2024, 12:03:52 PM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

Yes would choose to bet on underdog especially if I know that the team is really doing well so most provably I will go bet on them. And in case of Indiana Pacers they have great chance to win since this young guys lead by Haliburton is doing good this season and have a chance to defeat those top teams on the league. Also its not rare situation that underdog team beat those strong team and their bettors is lucky enough to get a huge win for trusting their bets.

Milwaukee Bucks is strong team but sometimes they are not prone to losing that's why its good to gamble with that since it adds the exciting while watching this type of game especially you know that your team is way behind.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Yogee on January 04, 2024, 12:15:09 PM
It turns out Pacers at -2.5 @2.50 was a good bet as they dominated the Bucks and winning by double digits but that's in hindsight now. I still would not pick that position if presented with the same scenario. To bet on the underdog while giving the opponent an additional advantage with minimal change in odds isn't worth it. Maybe I'll consider if the lines were like @2.23 for ML and the underdog -2.50 is @4.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Kelvinid on January 04, 2024, 12:22:36 PM
Do the odds really matter in betting? I may not and I don't weigh that much as a bettor, I'd choose the team that likely wins the game, it doesn't matter to me if the odds are high or low as I still vouch for the team I like the most. Or maybe I'm wrong but this is what I did for my best otherwise, I have to experiment with another strategy.

But yeah, doesn't all the time we win, losses still happen. However, I don't think it was regrettable in the sense that I enjoy watching the game and betting at the same time on my favorite team.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Getmon on January 04, 2024, 12:56:24 PM
It relies upon the matches bud. Yesterday I lost the -4.5 handicap with only 1.50x on the Milwaukee Bucks. Because the Bucks are playing in their stadium, I had no idea I would lose that wager.

The Bucks will want their vengeance, but if they can win, it will not be easy. In their return match at Indiana, I anticipate the Pacers to become even better with their fans cheering on them. The Milwaukee Bucks stay the favorite choice because they are consistently on top of the league but in this particular match, I am placing a bet on the -2.50 with a 2.50x odds on the Pacers.

Some of us foreseen this, the Pacers made a repeat in the match with the Milwaukee Bucks in their home arena in Indiana. Individuals who followed it made money. It is Tyrese Haliburton again, driving his team in a wild scoring third quarter and the Bucks could not overcome the lead.

Regardless, because I made the same wager, a -2.5 on the Oklahoma City Thunder in the match with the Atlanta Hawks, my profit became small. some of it is luck. Maybe it is luck. Anyhow, every time we go further with a deduction on the score of the team we are waging, there is a risk on it. Waging on modest odds is more secure but it depends on how we deal with our risk management.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Mahanton on January 04, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

Yes would choose to bet on underdog especially if I know that the team is really doing well so most provably I will go bet on them. And in case of Indiana Pacers they have great chance to win since this young guys lead by Haliburton is doing good this season and have a chance to defeat those top teams on the league. Also its not rare situation that underdog team beat those strong team and their bettors is lucky enough to get a huge win for trusting their bets.

Milwaukee Bucks is strong team but sometimes they are not prone to losing that's why its good to gamble with that since it adds the exciting while watching this type of game especially you know that your team is way behind.
Sometimes our guts and inner voices would really be telling deep inside that it is considerable to take some bets on the underdog but of course you cant really just that trust up that gut feeling on which the next thing you would do is to make up some research before you would really be able to finalize whether you should proceed on making some bet or would really be considering on betting on underdog. It would really be always that
depending into your own choice since not all would really be having on the same mindset when it comes to choices specially if their guts been telling them to do so.
We arent that dumb on not to see those odds differences on which it isnt really shocking that people would really be that always loving on sticking into the money line.
When it comes on having that confidence then we do surely be loving on sticking into those who are favorites.

It is really just that there are really indeed moments that we do really feel like to make out some bets into those underdogs because of having that feeling or even having that sudden analysis.
Results would neither be that positive or negative but at least it wont really be leaving out some regrets if you do follow the bet that you are preferring into.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Questat on January 05, 2024, 02:30:58 AM
It turns out Pacers at -2.5 @2.50 was a good bet as they dominated the Bucks and winning by double digits but that's in hindsight now. I still would not pick that position if presented with the same scenario. To bet on the underdog while giving the opponent an additional advantage with minimal change in odds isn't worth it. Maybe I'll consider if the lines were like @2.23 for ML and the underdog -2.50 is @4.
You will get the ML odds but you won't get the -2.5 @4. That is now how bookmakers make the betting odds, they don't make one to give us the advantage, it's always on the betting sites so they will not be abuse. And yeah, it turns out it was a great bet, this happen sometimes in the NBA but if you are good in selecting the right bet, it should not b a problem winning.

I think this kind of strategy is quite interesting, but mind you, not all websites (sportsbook) offers this kind of odds.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Strongkored on January 05, 2024, 12:51:57 PM
It takes courage and precise calculations to be able to bet on the underdog because if you do it carelessly then it will be like trying to make a profit in vain because the result is more to be a loss.
Of the many underdogs who managed to change the prediction results, there are definitely more that match the predictions with a strong team winning, it can be seen that a strong team will dominate a competition for years, but trying to occasionally bet on the underdog can be done if we see there is a chance to win, not just randomly choose it.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: ralle14 on January 05, 2024, 04:50:12 PM
I've done those kinds of bets a few times before, but I don't place them regularly because i've seen so many underdogs throw big leads where they could even fail to cover the initial handicap. The lowest i'd mostly take on the underdog would be the ML, and i'd rather avoid the stress of losing a handicap bet because they failed to cover the spread by a point or more. It would be impressive if you could pull off the strategy until the end of the season when it's not easy to spot underdogs that can win outright and cover the handicap with ease.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: AbuBhakar on January 05, 2024, 05:14:36 PM
By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

Actually this is a good idea given that you will already choose underdog bets since basketball matches that underdog win usually have over 2.5 spread on points to make an upset match. An underdog vs favorite matches with that odds usually result to huge spread so taking the 2.5 odds over 2.23 with just additional 1.5 points difference is already worth it risk for boost odds.

I didn’t consider this kind of bets before but reading this makes me wanna try it on my next bet that involves underdog ML.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Findingnemo on January 05, 2024, 05:21:41 PM
Talking for myself, I don't really bet on sports based on the odds alone, I also see it myself as a fanatic about that particular team or franchise then I will be willing to take a little risk with my money even if it is an underdog.

But generally, it is one of the calculated risks taken by sports bettors and I don't think it doesn't pay off well because we never know the probability of an underdog beating the favorites but it does happen in the sports and that day is unpredictable and that is why the gambling always thrills the users.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: wiss19 on January 06, 2024, 06:21:53 AM
Talking for myself, I don't really bet on sports based on the odds alone, I also see it myself as a fanatic about that particular team or franchise then I will be willing to take a little risk with my money even if it is an underdog.

But generally, it is one of the calculated risks taken by sports bettors and I don't think it doesn't pay off well because we never know the probability of an underdog beating the favorites but it does happen in the sports and that day is unpredictable and that is why the gambling always thrills the users.
I think many are like that because the main reason on why they choose sports betting over casino games is to increase their chances of winning. When we know the teams that are playing, we already know their capacity, so we go for them than on the unknown teams. It is also a way of showing a support to them.

So even if we lose, we still feel fine. If they are the underdog, this also means that their odds are high and we can earn a much higher profit in case we win. There are odds which determines the probability of the game. Usually, the underdog has a low chance of winning compared to the crowds favourites. This is their only downside here.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 06, 2024, 06:41:52 AM
-snip-
By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.
Of course, every bettor would like the high odds, and personally, I love to support the underdogs even outside betting, however, the underdog must be worth it. But I do not let that cover my reasonable judgments for my money in betting.

All that matters is for me to make money and I can only bet on underdogs if I know that they have a good chance of winning. Gambling shouldn't be about sentiment, it has to be about what you believe would be the true outcome and nothing else. You might want to support the underdog even while watching the game but still bet against them, that is wisdom (if you can cope), you can fake it.

But me betting on an underdog solely because I either want such to win (sentiment) or was attracted to the big odds is not sensible. I would rather go for the outcome of my unbiased analysis and nothing can change that.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 06, 2024, 07:43:49 AM
We will choose it as a bet if we are sure that the underdog team will win. But if not, we wouldn't choose it. We have to see which team is stronger and has a chance of winning so we can choose it. It's not because the team is the underdog or the top team. If each team brings out their best, they will fight hard and prove that their team is also worthy of winning. And it is up to us to find which team has the bigger win so that we can choose it for the bet. And each one has its risks, so we have to pay attention to the amount of money we will use to bet. No matter which team you choose, you should be able to bet with the money you can afford.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: pinggoki on January 06, 2024, 07:55:09 AM
I do not like betting undergo against strong clubs. Strong clubs will have low odds while underdogs will have higher odds but which may not worth going for. Although sometimes I can go for underdog, but the only reason I can do that is when the strong club is not performing good in its previous matches and making me to have doubt as the strong club is losing to most matches it recently played.
As much as this is the most obvious thing that you should do and the common knowledge when betting, the problem is that the betting sites know this and that this is a common knowledge, of course they're make sure that the odds of the potential winner gets the lowest as possible so they can make sure that they can get the most profit because players will gravitate to betting on the underdog team with the higher odds. That's always going to be the name of the game when it comes to betting so even if you don't want to, you'd still be betting on the potential winner even if the odds are so low but when it comes to the odds of the potential being too low that even if you win, you're still going to lose, that's going to be a different story for me.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Hirose UK on January 07, 2024, 02:21:51 PM
We will choose it as a bet if we are sure that the underdog team will win. But if not, we wouldn't choose it. We have to see which team is stronger and has a chance of winning so we can choose it. It's not because the team is the underdog or the top team. If each team brings out their best, they will fight hard and prove that their team is also worthy of winning. And it is up to us to find which team has the bigger win so that we can choose it for the bet. And each one has its risks, so we have to pay attention to the amount of money we will use to bet. No matter which team you choose, you should be able to bet with the money you can afford.
Team that is clearly superior and the favorite is the one that has greater chance of winning the match.
Of course, if we are just talking about odds, the favorites and favorites are the main choices, but here in sports betting, not all the favorites can win and there are many cases where the underdog team becomes the winner and beats the favorite or seeded team.
But betting is not just about the underdog and the top team, but you have to consider all aspects, such as which players are among the main players who will compete and how each of them has developed in the last few matches.
Analyzing each team is very important and cannot be ignored if we want to bet and have predictions that can really be relied on.

I believe that every gambler has their own way of making predictions to bet on and I know every gambler will have confidence in determining which match between the team they will bet on.
When betting involves certain amount of money that may be very valuable, of course we can accept when we lose and use the money to the extent of our ability, but that doesn't mean we don't try to win because winning is the greatest satisfaction when betting.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: lombok on January 07, 2024, 02:31:16 PM
I definitely prefer the superior team. In basketball or football I will still choose the superior team over the underdog. I look more at the history and strength of the players, the club's reputation, this of course has shaped the club's playing mentality, no matter how good the underdog team is, if the mentality is still weak it will have an impact on the game. Even though the odds given are small, it is better for me not to risk my bet.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Questat on January 08, 2024, 04:00:25 AM
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

Yes would choose to bet on underdog especially if I know that the team is really doing well so most provably I will go bet on them. And in case of Indiana Pacers they have great chance to win since this young guys lead by Haliburton is doing good this season and have a chance to defeat those top teams on the league. Also its not rare situation that underdog team beat those strong team and their bettors is lucky enough to get a huge win for trusting their bets.

Milwaukee Bucks is strong team but sometimes they are not prone to losing that's why its good to gamble with that since it adds the exciting while watching this type of game especially you know that your team is way behind.

We might have a different analysis on betting an underdog team but for sure we are confident they will win. At least with the underdog winning and we are getting good odds, that's an extra winning compared to taking the odds that are 1.90 and below. Other might see it as a bad strategy, but it's not consistently picking the underdog, just choose the quality underdogs as that's the key on winning.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 09, 2024, 06:30:42 AM
Team that is clearly superior and the favorite is the one that has greater chance of winning the match.
Of course, if we are just talking about odds, the favorites and favorites are the main choices, but here in sports betting, not all the favorites can win and there are many cases where the underdog team becomes the winner and beats the favorite or seeded team.
But betting is not just about the underdog and the top team, but you have to consider all aspects, such as which players are among the main players who will compete and how each of them has developed in the last few matches.
Analyzing each team is very important and cannot be ignored if we want to bet and have predictions that can really be relied on.

I believe that every gambler has their own way of making predictions to bet on and I know every gambler will have confidence in determining which match between the team they will bet on.
When betting involves certain amount of money that may be very valuable, of course we can accept when we lose and use the money to the extent of our ability, but that doesn't mean we don't try to win because winning is the greatest satisfaction when betting.
The superior and the favorite team is indeed the team that has a greater chance of winning than the opposing team. But we must remember that when the match has started, there will be moments when surprises will come and encourage the opposing team to play with the best performance. In fact, by being the underdog, a team can play without burden and pressure because the underdog team is underestimating their team. This allows the team to play relaxedly and can reveal hidden performances that can surprise the favored team. This has happened in many matches where the unseeded team can compete with the favored team and can even win against that team because they can turn around and put pressure on the favored team.

Yes, every gambler has his or her way of predicting a match. Every gambler has that differently because we are talking about a person's ability to collect and analyze other data that other gamblers may not have. This allows them to find more important information that will support their analysis so that they can see the possibility of winning against the underdog team. This is what gamblers often forget when analyzing a match because many of them only see that the favored team has a greater chance of winning than the opponent, which is true. But other factors must also be considered when analyzing a match, which should be remembered by gamblers who want to analyze a match.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: _act_ on January 09, 2024, 06:57:16 AM
We might have a different analysis on betting an underdog team but for sure we are confident they will win. At least with the underdog winning and we are getting good odds, that's an extra winning compared to taking the odds that are 1.90 and below. Other might see it as a bad strategy, but it's not consistently picking the underdog, just choose the quality underdogs as that's the key on winning.
Let me ask you a question. Are you taking underdogs to win the strong teams and you make money while gambling this than losing?

There are three possibilities. The first is that the strong team might win, the second is that the underdog might draw and the third is that the underdog might win. What if you chose the underdog to win and the match is drawn? That is still also a loss.

I know that sometimes it can be good to choose an underdog but these are just few occasions when a strong team is not playing very well. An instance is when the last 3 to 5 matches that are played are drawn and most lost by the good team. But I know how gamblers think, they will be looking for such opportunity to win high odd matches, but several try might still be of losses if no winning, if you chose underdog.

As for me, I prefer tomost of the time choose strong team. But to draw is still another disadvantage even if the match is not lost by the strong team.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Hirose UK on January 11, 2024, 04:04:29 PM
~snip~
The superior and the favorite team is indeed the team that has a greater chance of winning than the opposing team. But we must remember that when the match has started, there will be moments when surprises will come and encourage the opposing team to play with the best performance. In fact, by being the underdog, a team can play without burden and pressure because the underdog team is underestimating their team. This allows the team to play relaxedly and can reveal hidden performances that can surprise the favored team. This has happened in many matches where the unseeded team can compete with the favored team and can even win against that team because they can turn around and put pressure on the favored team.

Yes, every gambler has his or her way of predicting a match. Every gambler has that differently because we are talking about a person's ability to collect and analyze other data that other gamblers may not have. This allows them to find more important information that will support their analysis so that they can see the possibility of winning against the underdog team. This is what gamblers often forget when analyzing a match because many of them only see that the favored team has a greater chance of winning than the opponent, which is true. But other factors must also be considered when analyzing a match, which should be remembered by gamblers who want to analyze a match.
So that the main point in betting, there is no certainty that the top team will always win and the top team could lose tragically if there is luck and surprises that can be given by the underdog team itself.
Several times I made the mistake of having a fairly convincing prediction by choosing the favorite as the favorite in betting. This prediction was made with full consideration and of course there was an analysis that I carried out.
But everything is in vain when the underdog or bottom team can take advantage of the situation very well and succeed in creating opportunities for victory, bets like this are of course also experienced by other gamblers.
In sports, many unexpected things can happen suddenly and of course conditions like this make it difficult for gamblers. I usually watch the progress of the match and if the conditions or circumstances make it impossible to continue betting then cashout is the right step.

We understand these differences and of course we can conclude that what is considered right may not necessarily be considered good by other gamblers.
Having these different methods can also make us believe in each other abilities with full ambition for success, but for sports betting it will be very difficult to guess accurately.
Just imagine that in the first half there was team that was more dominant and superior, but surprisingly in the second half the opposing team turned things around with much better control of the game so that the advantage belonged to the opposing team.

If you really can't have prediction that you can really believe in or when betting you have doubts then my advice is to bet when you have entered the second half and this will make it easier to study the game to be able to make better predictions.
But by using method like this, don't ever hope to have high odd because significant changes will definitely occur.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: piebeyb on January 11, 2024, 04:29:56 PM
If you really can't have prediction that you can really believe in or when betting you have doubts then my advice is to bet when you have entered the second half and this will make it easier to study the game to be able to make better predictions.
But by using method like this, don't ever hope to have high odd because significant changes will definitely occur.
I often do this by betting while the game is in progress or playing bets for the second half. At least I know how the players from both clubs are performing and also their style of play so I can read and predict the score of the match in the end result, even though the odds are low, which is different when we bet. before the game starts, that's why people prefer to bet before the game starts compared to while the game is in progress.

As much as possible, my advice is that if you don't have more experience and knowledge about which team is the favorite and which is not the favorite, you should not try to bet while the game is in progress, sometimes there are unexpected surprises at the end of the match which makes us ultimately disappointed with the results. I'm used to playing before. the match starts also when the match is in progress so everything is safe. but beginners should not try it  ;D


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: stadus on January 21, 2024, 02:43:03 PM
As much as possible, my advice is that if you don't have more experience and knowledge about which team is the favorite and which is not the favorite, you should not try to bet while the game is in progress, sometimes there are unexpected surprises at the end of the match which makes us ultimately disappointed with the results. I'm used to playing before. the match starts also when the match is in progress so everything is safe. but beginners should not try it  ;D

You should be aware of the betting odds first before you do a live betting, because if not, it's just like you are gambling hoping you'll get lucky. It's different when you study the game, analyze it as a win prove to be your success and you will feel confident with your picks. Choose quality over quantity, that's the secret, when we are selective with our bet, that is a sign of maturity in sports betting, I know newbies would eventually learn in the long run how to be matured.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Yatsan on January 21, 2024, 03:26:23 PM
If it is by team win, I still won't do it, also I don't prefer spreads in sportsbetting. I would rather skip the match and wait for a better vision perhaps better match up I would be comfortable betting my money with. I would more do a bet build if there is an option to sports provider (not all websites have this feature). I don't have that much of a support to my claim but it is just that I am always considering the enjoyment over profit. I don't also chase bet count and more of quality bets than betting every game I would be seeing.
Does anyone here do the same?

For example, let's say there's a game tomorrow between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. The original betting spread is Indiana +2.5 vs Milwaukee -2.5. Let's assume their respective spreads have odds of 1.90, and you believe the underdog will win. Are you willing to bet on Indiana as favorites?

By saying favorites, I mean would you choose Indiana -2.5 with 2.50 odds, a little higher than the moneyline odds which is 2.23.

Yes would choose to bet on underdog especially if I know that the team is really doing well so most provably I will go bet on them. And in case of Indiana Pacers they have great chance to win since this young guys lead by Haliburton is doing good this season and have a chance to defeat those top teams on the league. Also its not rare situation that underdog team beat those strong team and their bettors is lucky enough to get a huge win for trusting their bets.

Milwaukee Bucks is strong team but sometimes they are not prone to losing that's why its good to gamble with that since it adds the exciting while watching this type of game especially you know that your team is way behind.

We might have a different analysis on betting an underdog team but for sure we are confident they will win. At least with the underdog winning and we are getting good odds, that's an extra winning compared to taking the odds that are 1.90 and below. Other might see it as a bad strategy, but it's not consistently picking the underdog, just choose the quality underdogs as that's the key on winning.
I only bet on mu favorite underdogs with odds above 2 'coz it would be worthy of taking the risk but that depends on the players line up; which is why I do follow team managements which works well for me so far. However most of the time I am engaging with lower odds because it promotes higher chances of winning as expected by the majority. I just increase my bet but still under my tolerance to make sure everything's fine and that I will be able to enjoy the outcome no matter what.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 22, 2024, 05:25:08 AM
So that the main point in betting, there is no certainty that the top team will always win and the top team could lose tragically if there is luck and surprises that can be given by the underdog team itself.
Several times I made the mistake of having a fairly convincing prediction by choosing the favorite as the favorite in betting. This prediction was made with full consideration and of course there was an analysis that I carried out.
But everything is in vain when the underdog or bottom team can take advantage of the situation very well and succeed in creating opportunities for victory, bets like this are of course also experienced by other gamblers.
In sports, many unexpected things can happen suddenly and of course conditions like this make it difficult for gamblers. I usually watch the progress of the match and if the conditions or circumstances make it impossible to continue betting then cashout is the right step.

We understand these differences and of course we can conclude that what is considered right may not necessarily be considered good by other gamblers.
Having these different methods can also make us believe in each other abilities with full ambition for success, but for sports betting it will be very difficult to guess accurately.
Just imagine that in the first half there was team that was more dominant and superior, but surprisingly in the second half the opposing team turned things around with much better control of the game so that the advantage belonged to the opposing team.

If you really can't have prediction that you can really believe in or when betting you have doubts then my advice is to bet when you have entered the second half and this will make it easier to study the game to be able to make better predictions.
But by using method like this, don't ever hope to have high odd because significant changes will definitely occur.
That's why we shouldn't be too confident in the results of our analysis and our predictions because the situation in the match can change at any time without us knowing. The favorite team may be defeated by a team that is not favored and it does not guarantee that the favorite team will always beat the other teams. It depends on how the coach can use the right strategy to face his opponents. The coach will adjust his strategy in each match so that the names of the players competing will also change. That makes matches often run unexpectedly and produce different results than we predicted. I also experience what you experience because I feel confident in my analysis. Hence, I immediately placed a bet, but the situation and conditions on the field were very different from my predictions. The opposing team was able to put pressure on my chosen team and even managed to win the match so I had to experience defeat too. That is why we must be able to search for and get more information from trusted sources to add information when analyzing the match. We can only hope that our analysis can provide victory but we must not hope too much.

Each gambler has different ways of analyzing, so they will also have different analysis results. We should not be too ambitious to win every bet we place because it will not always give us a win. The important thing is that we can place bets with the money we can afford so that we won't lose a lot of money if we lose. We also need to improve our analytical skills to use them to find teams that have a chance of winning the match so that our chances of winning will be greater. We also have to be prepared for changes that can occur in each match, so that's why we can adjust the bet amount so we don't lose too much.

If we can't predict, we can look for sources to learn to analyze and it's okay if our predictions are still wrong because that is a process we go through. By continuing to learn to analyze, we can improve our analytical skills to analyze better.


Title: Re: Betting on underdog by choosing a favorite spread to increase the odds.
Post by: Negotiation on January 22, 2024, 11:33:09 AM
Not only betting on the underdog but in each case its strategy and odds must be analyzed well before betting. Otherwise there is a possibility of high risk because not all casinos throw the underdog game the same way. For us players, knowing the odds is an extra tool in our arsenal. This helps you understand whether the bookmaker's odds match your expectations of what will happen. If you think an event is more likely than it is, it can be a betting signal. At the end of the day successful sports betting requires a good understanding of the odds. Also before a person places a bet it is important to know what the betting odds are and how they work.