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Title: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 17, 2024, 06:21:57 AM
After failing to become the undisputed lightweight champion, in a narrow and controversial decision, Vasiliy Lomachenko will now fight former unified champion George Kambosos in Australia for the IBF title.

After seeing Loma's performance against Haney, who had a considerable size and height advantage, I don't see Kambosos as being too much of an obstacle for him. George Kambosos last fight was in July of last year in which he won an unimpressive majority decision against fringe contender Maxi Hughes. Kambosos was supposed to fight Loma already but, due to the conflict in Ukraine, he faced Haney instead and lost his belts in the first defense after defeating Teofimo Lopez.

Outside of his victory against a Teofimo, who had been facing health issues, Kambosos has had an unremarkable career and the betting odds should heavily favor Lomachenko.

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Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on January 17, 2024, 06:29:49 AM
I don't think we need a poll for this, Loma is an easy pick here, he has speed, and power and is more technical than Kambosos, if Haney beats him easily Loma can do better, kambosos have problems dealing with technical fighters unless Loma shows signs of aging which I doubt he's not based on his last fight Loma still has it, Its good that it's a title fight Loma had a good chance to be champion here.
Loma can easily beat Kambosos if he is the Loma that we all know, and Kambosos to beat Loma needs technical trainers by his side and to focus more on power and endurance its hard to deal with Loma because of his illusiveness and great fotwork.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on January 17, 2024, 07:10:32 AM
Loma is currently -430 as per https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-v-george-kambosos-jnr.

The line says it all, Loma is the heavy favorite to win the fight. Though I must say that it's a big fight but I cannot expect that Kambosos here will win the fight. Loma is too technical, if he was just dominated by Haney, then this guy who almost beat Haney might probably do the same to him, worst is it could knock him out and might result to retiring early.

Risky decision by Kambosos but I like his courage though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kelvinid on January 17, 2024, 08:19:27 AM
Loma is currently -430 as per https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-v-george-kambosos-jnr.


With this line, it only tells that his value has dropped significantly. The fights with Haney that he never had a chance to make close were the main reason for that, so he needed this fight to get back to the top. However, I doubt Loma would allow that to happen since he is also aiming for a big win, hoping to secure a more significant fight next time, perhaps another match with Haney.

What I can only expect this fight is that it's going to be an entertaining one since Kambosos does not know any other style but to be aggressive and always go forward, but since Loma is a good counter puncher, I'm afraid this will not reach the judges scorecards.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: robelneo on January 17, 2024, 08:27:25 AM


The line says it all, Loma is the heavy favorite to win the fight. Though I must say that it's a big fight but I cannot expect that Kambosos here will win the fight. Loma is too technical, if he was just dominated by Haney, then this guy who almost beat Haney might probably do the same to him, worst is it could knock him out and might result to retiring early.

Risky decision by Kambosos but I like his courage though.

I was not impressed with Kamboso's fight before this fight, It was a cherry-picked fight against Maxi Hughes and he only managed to get a majority decision, Lomachenko after losing to Haney wants to get back at the top he is a more hungry fighter because he wants to prove something after his defeat by Haney, who many considered to be the fight Loma won.

Vasily has a long vacation but I don't think it will affect his performance, Lomachenko is just too good for Kambosos I will consider this as one of the easy fights for Loma that is if he still has those matrix movements that he is known for, both are gentlemen in the ring I don't any thrash talk event, but even though there is none this is going to be an exciting pack fight with a lot of movements on both fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Text on January 17, 2024, 09:47:16 AM
I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on January 17, 2024, 12:27:18 PM
I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision.
I don't even think it will end to the judges scorecards, but if it will, for sure you are right. However, I see a different outcome this fight, Kambosos is an easy target for Loma, and I believe as the rounds goes by, Loma will slowly wear down Kambosos until his body will give up.

Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
I disagree with that, kambosos still has the power thought although doesn't have the quickness. We still need to remember that Kambosos beat Lopez who beat Lomachenko in an epic battle.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: aioc on January 17, 2024, 01:14:32 PM
I've checked the poll and so far all votes are on Lomachencko either by decision or knockout and even on betting he is the heavy favorite, even if Loma was beaten by Haney it's a controversial match  I still consider Loma a dangerous fighter, and fighting Kambosos who did not even show a good fight against Haney when they met, its right that Loma is the heavy favorite, he is still fast with good movement and like everyone here are saying matrix like movement.
There are two boxers I've known who have matrix-type moves and these are Prince Hamed and Lomachenko, this makes these two fighters rare in boxing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: yazher on January 17, 2024, 01:22:13 PM
I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.

Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: xLays on January 17, 2024, 03:54:22 PM
I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.

Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies.
My prediction for this fight is Vasiliy Lomachenko by decision because both fighters haven't KO'd in their  losses. They both can last more than 12 rounds.The previous fight between Vasiliy Lomachenko and Devin Haney was a complete robbery. The only thing that can defeat Vasiliy Lomachenko are totally the judges if the match goes the distance. But I don't see George Kambosos Jr. as the underdog in this match; it looks like a balanced fight. Even the records tell the whole story.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: cabron on January 17, 2024, 04:18:31 PM
I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.

Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies.

Most of the tough fighters in that division look down on Kambosos as an easy picking. After winning against Lopez, they finally see him as he could be matched to fight Loma, and after this fight maybe he will be fighting Shakur or Tank.

Kambosos had once unified titles too. He is big in the division while LW isn't the usual weight class of Loma. Kambosos has an edge in this fight and Loma is not what he is anymore. A prime Loma could have worn out Haney but obviously, he isn't in his prime anymore. He may retire after 2 fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on January 17, 2024, 10:25:35 PM
Well this is the original plan though, after Kambosos won against Teo Lopez, Loma is next in line. However, we all know that Loma went back to his native Ukraine to be in the frontline in the war and the career of this two goes on a lot of twist and turn, Kambosos losing twice to Haney including all the belts and then same with Loma, close one against Haney and failed to get the undisputed belt.

At least though, they have a chance to fight and it's all in-house money again for Bob Arum and Top Rank. But it's good that a belt is on the line here and winner becoming a champion again. But I think Loma's technical prowess and boxing IQ will prevail here. Kambosos have a hard time fighting against a boxer that moves a lot and it could be a target shooting for Loma here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on January 17, 2024, 11:05:21 PM
They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.

As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on January 18, 2024, 11:40:13 AM
They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.
Kambosos is sure a leftover for Haney, he beat him twice and make him look like an amateur. However against Loma, that was controversial, many believe Haney didn't win, but Haney ain't a real warrior, maybe he himself also feel that he lose that fight so he didn't give a rematch.

As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.

We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.

With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Hypnosis00 on January 18, 2024, 12:01:54 PM
We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.


That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation.

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With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.

I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow.

Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 18, 2024, 12:04:52 PM
They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.
Obviously, it is, but for us, he beat Kambosos fair and square. But against Lomachenko, it's questionable as most of us here thought that Loma did enough to at least make it a draw. But the judges saw that early score of Haney is enough for him to win. So it's not that it's a left-over fight. And with Haney going up in weight and winning a belt, I don't think he will go back to this weight anymore. And so it's good to hear that the IBF belt is on the line for this two. And I'm seeing Loma winning and maybe it's time for Tank Davis to fight him. Tank has been protected for so long, and they should make fight a real champion.

As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.
Loma needs a convincing win though. He is going to travel to Australia and we have seen worst thing happen like in the Pacquiao vs Horn fight. Hopefully, they won't rob Loma. But Loma can remove the judges in this scenario if he can win by a knockout. Or just a total dominant win just like what he did when he has coming to 135 lbs and defeating a lot of great boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on January 18, 2024, 12:12:34 PM
We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.


That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation.

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With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.

I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow.

Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive.

There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased.

But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bittraffic on January 18, 2024, 01:35:04 PM
We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.


That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation.

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With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.

I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow.

Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive.

There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased.

But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard?

Rumor months ago was that it was supposed to be Shakur to fight Loma but instead, Loma chose Kambosos. Maybe he figured he wouldn't have a problem beating George
after all, Geroge is not a KO finisher and he is much older than Shakur so he could likely defeat Kambosos.   

If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on January 18, 2024, 08:23:26 PM
We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.


That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation.

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With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.

I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow.

Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive.

There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased.

But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard?

Rumor months ago was that it was supposed to be Shakur to fight Loma but instead, Loma chose Kambosos. Maybe he figured he wouldn't have a problem beating George
after all, Geroge is not a KO finisher and he is much older than Shakur so he could likely defeat Kambosos.   

If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.

It's hard to make that fight though, and although they are in Top Rank stable, Arum might not be ready for it as he is building Shakur's name to be his next cash cow when Loma retires. So he pitted Kambosos, less risk big reward for Loma, and most likely as we have predicted, he can win that IBF belt.

But I do agree that it's more pressure on the side of Loma here, he is not getting any younger, one of the most decorated amateur, become a champion in pro, but his main goal according to him is to be undisputed but he wasn't able to accomplished that.  But he can still be a champion if he can beat a still young fighter in George Kambosos and maybe after that if he got the belt, the camp of Shakur will be ready for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on January 24, 2024, 01:01:24 PM

 

If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.

I have not seen Loma slowing down in his last fight against Haney he did better than Kambosos against Haney on two occasions so it's easy to figure out that Lomachenko will be a better fighter when the fight that is why I posted that we don't need a post for this fight.

Both fighters badly need to win this fight. I'm sure they will both go all out to prove that they deserve to be in contention for a title, It is always good to see if you see two fighters battling it out or surviving to stay in contention, the loser will slip further in ranking. The winner will move up and possibly earn another title fight.
Both fighters still have what it takes to be champion again it's just unfortunate that one of them will have to unless the fight ends in a draw.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: stadus on January 24, 2024, 01:07:16 PM

 

If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.

I have not seen Loma slowing down in his last fight against Haney he did better than Kambosos against Haney on two occasions so it's easy to figure out that Lomachenko will be a better fighter when the fight that is why I posted that we don't need a post for this fight.

Both fighters badly need to win this fight. I'm sure they will both go all out to prove that they deserve to be in contention for a title, It is always good to see if you see two fighters battling it out or surviving to stay in contention, the loser will slip further in ranking. The winner will move up and possibly earn another title fight.
Both fighters still have what it takes to be champion again it's just unfortunate that one of them will have to unless the fight ends in a draw.

Of course, he is still the same Loma whom who we praise. Loma lose to Haney was not convincing, and that until now the fans are still shouting for a rematch, if Haney would agree, we will see who the real winner is. If Kambosos could not even match the skills of Haney, I don't see any difference with Loma who has the power and also a very technical fighter.

I think this fight will end Kambosos career in boxing as he is now in a losing streak .And as on the choices in the poll, I voted for Loma winning via KO.

Not surprise seeing that 77.8% of the users voted for that. Well, it will likely happen as Kambosos are not good in playing defense, so he needs to have a solid chin to surive this fight even if he lose.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on January 24, 2024, 01:33:14 PM

 

If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.

I have not seen Loma slowing down in his last fight against Haney he did better than Kambosos against Haney on two occasions so it's easy to figure out that Lomachenko will be a better fighter when the fight that is why I posted that we don't need a post for this fight.

Both fighters badly need to win this fight. I'm sure they will both go all out to prove that they deserve to be in contention for a title, It is always good to see if you see two fighters battling it out or surviving to stay in contention, the loser will slip further in ranking. The winner will move up and possibly earn another title fight.
Both fighters still have what it takes to be champion again it's just unfortunate that one of them will have to unless the fight ends in a draw.

Of course, he is still the same Loma whom who we praise. Loma lose to Haney was not convincing, and that until now the fans are still shouting for a rematch, if Haney would agree, we will see who the real winner is. If Kambosos could not even match the skills of Haney, I don't see any difference with Loma who has the power and also a very technical fighter.
That should be the expectation now but anything can happen. Ever remember when Kambosos beat Teofimo Lopez? I think everyone was expecting for    Teofimo Lopez to win that fight easily since he beat Loma here. So if we follow the chain, the fighter that beat Loma was beaten by Kambosos, so it could be Kambosos now beating Loma. That's why we can never say it's an easy fight for Loma.

I think this fight will end Kambosos career in boxing as he is now in a losing streak .And as on the choices in the poll, I voted for Loma winning via KO.

Not surprise seeing that 77.8% of the users voted for that. Well, it will likely happen as Kambosos are not good in playing defense, so he needs to have a solid chin to surive this fight even if he lose.

He is not in a losing streak, last fight held last year but ended as Majority Draw.

Now, he is back to a big fight again, a lose here could make him decide to quit as it's unlikely he will become a champion again if he stays at the ccurrent division. But that's up to him, so far, I haven't seen a fighter that was severely injured after fighter Loma, and Kambosos seemed to have a solid chin as he stayed up even with a bloody face on his previous fights.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: aioc on January 24, 2024, 05:00:18 PM


Not surprise seeing that 77.8% of the users voted for that. Well, it will likely happen as Kambosos are not good in playing defense, so he needs to have a solid chin to surive this fight even if he lose.

He is not good at the defense he is offensive and Loma can easily see flaws in an offensive fighter all his fights he has been a defensive fighter he has excellent footwork and is an intelligent fighter, he can adapt to any boxer's style that makes him an extraordinary fighter, he makes great fighter ordinary.
The Haney is a lesson learned for Loma I'm sure he learned a lot here and will box differently by being too technical, Kambosos has problem with technical boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on January 24, 2024, 06:30:32 PM


Not surprise seeing that 77.8% of the users voted for that. Well, it will likely happen as Kambosos are not good in playing defense, so he needs to have a solid chin to surive this fight even if he lose.

He is not good at the defense he is offensive and Loma can easily see flaws in an offensive fighter all his fights he has been a defensive fighter he has excellent footwork and is an intelligent fighter, he can adapt to any boxer's style that makes him an extraordinary fighter, he makes great fighter ordinary.
The Haney is a lesson learned for Loma I'm sure he learned a lot here and will box differently by being too technical, Kambosos has problem with technical boxers.

Yes, Kambosos doesn't play the defense game, and just like most of the Australians, like Moloneys and Tsyzu, they are all offensive minded boxers. And sometimes it gets the best out of them, like Kambosos putting a great upset against Teo Lopez that time.

But in this fight, I think even at Loma's age, he can still pull that trigger and go toe to toe with Kambosos and uses his experience and boxing IQ more. Loma though might start slow again just like against Haney and then come on strong in the second half and see the fight extended again to 12 full rounds or Kambosos getting caught by Loma with his volume punches and stop him later in the rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: freedomgo on January 27, 2024, 01:53:47 PM


Not surprise seeing that 77.8% of the users voted for that. Well, it will likely happen as Kambosos are not good in playing defense, so he needs to have a solid chin to surive this fight even if he lose.

He is not good at the defense he is offensive and Loma can easily see flaws in an offensive fighter all his fights he has been a defensive fighter he has excellent footwork and is an intelligent fighter, he can adapt to any boxer's style that makes him an extraordinary fighter, he makes great fighter ordinary.
The Haney is a lesson learned for Loma I'm sure he learned a lot here and will box differently by being too technical, Kambosos has problem with technical boxers.

Yes, Kambosos doesn't play the defense game, and just like most of the Australians, like Moloneys and Tsyzu, they are all offensive minded boxers. And sometimes it gets the best out of them, like Kambosos putting a great upset against Teo Lopez that time.

But in this fight, I think even at Loma's age, he can still pull that trigger and go toe to toe with Kambosos and uses his experience and boxing IQ more. Loma though might start slow again just like against Haney and then come on strong in the second half and see the fight extended again to 12 full rounds or Kambosos getting caught by Loma with his volume punches and stop him later in the rounds.

You can also add Horn on the list. He does not play defense as well, he keeps attacking like a bull and played dirty tactic on Pacman that's why he won the championship. These boxers you've mentioned, I believe they fight clean so I like them. however, kambosos although he doesn't bring a boring fight but recently, it seems like he allows himself to get punish in the fight without making an adjustment, so against Loma who is good in making one, I doubt he'll be able to last 12 rounds if he keeps attacking.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on February 03, 2024, 12:10:21 PM
You can also add Horn on the list. He does not play defense as well, he keeps attacking like a bull and played dirty tactic on Pacman that's why he won the championship. These boxers you've mentioned, I believe they fight clean so I like them. however, kambosos although he doesn't bring a boring fight but recently, it seems like he allows himself to get punish in the fight without making an adjustment, so against Loma who is good in making one, I doubt he'll be able to last 12 rounds if he keeps attacking.
That make sense because majority of the posters here voted for "Lomachenko to win by KO". It's been a while since we've see Loma won a fight via KO, and against this very aggressive fighter of Kambosos, he'll not have a problem finding the right timing for KO. I hope he'll not get bully by Kambosos since his tactic is just very simple, which is to attack and try to wear down his opponent. I'll call Kambosos a warrior though, but being aggressive isn't enough to win, a good strategy will help a boxer win and that is the forte of a very technical Lomachenko.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 03, 2024, 12:19:09 PM
You can also add Horn on the list. He does not play defense as well, he keeps attacking like a bull and played dirty tactic on Pacman that's why he won the championship. These boxers you've mentioned, I believe they fight clean so I like them. however, kambosos although he doesn't bring a boring fight but recently, it seems like he allows himself to get punish in the fight without making an adjustment, so against Loma who is good in making one, I doubt he'll be able to last 12 rounds if he keeps attacking.
That make sense because majority of the posters here voted for "Lomachenko to win by KO". It's been a while since we've see Loma won a fight via KO, and against this very aggressive fighter of Kambosos, he'll not have a problem finding the right timing for KO. I hope he'll not get bully by Kambosos since his tactic is just very simple, which is to attack and try to wear down his opponent. I'll call Kambosos a warrior though, but being aggressive isn't enough to win, a good strategy will help a boxer win and that is the forte of a very technical Lomachenko.

Yes, however, I voted for Loma by decision. It's not that Loma can't win by knockout. However, if we see his last couple of fights, he love to go to distance with his opponents, and maybe to showcase his skills. Although he lost to Devin Haney, but it's very controversial with others saying that he was robbed in that fight by the judges.

I do agree, Kambosos is a warrior, he has been in great battle with Teo Lopez and x2 against Haney.

But this is another boxer that he will have to face in Loma, the experience and how technical fighter he is, Kambosos might have a difficult fight ahead of him and I see him losing maybe 7-5 close or 8-4 in favor of Kambosos.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Russlenat on February 03, 2024, 12:37:59 PM
You can also add Horn on the list. He does not play defense as well, he keeps attacking like a bull and played dirty tactic on Pacman that's why he won the championship. These boxers you've mentioned, I believe they fight clean so I like them. however, kambosos although he doesn't bring a boring fight but recently, it seems like he allows himself to get punish in the fight without making an adjustment, so against Loma who is good in making one, I doubt he'll be able to last 12 rounds if he keeps attacking.
That make sense because majority of the posters here voted for "Lomachenko to win by KO". It's been a while since we've see Loma won a fight via KO, and against this very aggressive fighter of Kambosos, he'll not have a problem finding the right timing for KO. I hope he'll not get bully by Kambosos since his tactic is just very simple, which is to attack and try to wear down his opponent. I'll call Kambosos a warrior though, but being aggressive isn't enough to win, a good strategy will help a boxer win and that is the forte of a very technical Lomachenko.

Yes, however, I voted for Loma by decision. It's not that Loma can't win by knockout. However, if we see his last couple of fights, he love to go to distance with his opponents, and maybe to showcase his skills. Although he lost to Devin Haney, but it's very controversial with others saying that he was robbed in that fight by the judges.

I do agree, Kambosos is a warrior, he has been in great battle with Teo Lopez and x2 against Haney.

But this is another boxer that he will have to face in Loma, the experience and how technical fighter he is, Kambosos might have a difficult fight ahead of him and I see him losing maybe 7-5 close or 8-4 in favor of Kambosos.

His last win via TKO was on year 2021, so that's 2 years ago. However, it could also vary depending on his opponent, because Kambosos is a type of boxer that loves to bully his opponent, doesn't pay attention much on his defense as he just want to throw punches. If Haney was a power puncher, he could have KO Kambosos, but the former is very good, he didn't took that risk, instead, he make sure that he is in control of the fight and get an easy win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Hirose UK on February 03, 2024, 01:59:02 PM
~snip~
Yes, however, I voted for Loma by decision. It's not that Loma can't win by knockout. However, if we see his last couple of fights, he love to go to distance with his opponents, and maybe to showcase his skills. Although he lost to Devin Haney, but it's very controversial with others saying that he was robbed in that fight by the judges.

I do agree, Kambosos is a warrior, he has been in great battle with Teo Lopez and x2 against Haney.

But this is another boxer that he will have to face in Loma, the experience and how technical fighter he is, Kambosos might have a difficult fight ahead of him and I see him losing maybe 7-5 close or 8-4 in favor of Kambosos.
Every fighter will see how his opponent fighting style is and there must be strategy in place to be able to take advantage of opportunities that come or find point of distraction that could occur at any time.
Lomachenko will probably fight longer and he won't really be chasing to beat Kambosos by knockout because Kambosos himself is typically quite brutal fighter, Kambosos will tend to fight more often by pressing his opponent or at close range.
There is possibility that Kambosos could win by knockout if Lomachenko doesn't fight more calmly, all sorts of surprises can happen but for a decision win I would make Kambosos the favorite.

These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on February 04, 2024, 01:04:10 AM
You can also add Horn on the list. He does not play defense as well, he keeps attacking like a bull and played dirty tactic on Pacman that's why he won the championship. These boxers you've mentioned, I believe they fight clean so I like them. however, kambosos although he doesn't bring a boring fight but recently, it seems like he allows himself to get punish in the fight without making an adjustment, so against Loma who is good in making one, I doubt he'll be able to last 12 rounds if he keeps attacking.
That make sense because majority of the posters here voted for "Lomachenko to win by KO". It's been a while since we've see Loma won a fight via KO, and against this very aggressive fighter of Kambosos, he'll not have a problem finding the right timing for KO. I hope he'll not get bully by Kambosos since his tactic is just very simple, which is to attack and try to wear down his opponent. I'll call Kambosos a warrior though, but being aggressive isn't enough to win, a good strategy will help a boxer win and that is the forte of a very technical Lomachenko.

Yes, however, I voted for Loma by decision. It's not that Loma can't win by knockout. However, if we see his last couple of fights, he love to go to distance with his opponents, and maybe to showcase his skills. Although he lost to Devin Haney, but it's very controversial with others saying that he was robbed in that fight by the judges.

I do agree, Kambosos is a warrior, he has been in great battle with Teo Lopez and x2 against Haney.

But this is another boxer that he will have to face in Loma, the experience and how technical fighter he is, Kambosos might have a difficult fight ahead of him and I see him losing maybe 7-5 close or 8-4 in favor of Kambosos.

His last win via TKO was on year 2021, so that's 2 years ago. However, it could also vary depending on his opponent, because Kambosos is a type of boxer that loves to bully his opponent, doesn't pay attention much on his defense as he just want to throw punches. If Haney was a power puncher, he could have KO Kambosos, but the former is very good, he didn't took that risk, instead, he make sure that he is in control of the fight and get an easy win.

That will be wrong strategy for Kambosos if he thinks he is the bigger guy and just bully Loma around. Loma loves fighter who bullies him as it brought the best in him, like Nakatani, when the Japanese tought that he has the reach and height advantage. But we have seen Loma's best fight that time, his footwork and technical and his speed was in full display that time.

So if Kambosos will do that and then realized that it's the wrong plan and doesn't have plan B, then I think it's going to be a easy fight for Loma. All night he will just pot shot Kambosos and for sure we will see George face in red as Loma will bludgeon it all night long.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 04, 2024, 08:27:38 AM
That will be wrong strategy for Kambosos if he thinks he is the bigger guy and just bully Loma around. Loma loves fighter who bullies him as it brought the best in him, like Nakatani, when the Japanese tought that he has the reach and height advantage. But we have seen Loma's best fight that time, his footwork and technical and his speed was in full display that time.

So if Kambosos will do that and then realized that it's the wrong plan and doesn't have plan B, then I think it's going to be a easy fight for Loma. All night he will just pot shot Kambosos and for sure we will see George face in red as Loma will bludgeon it all night long.

I don't see him having a plan B in his last 2 losses. He faced Haney two times but the outcome was still the same. Haney who is on the same level with Loma, not seeing Kambosos here would be able to impose his bully to an experience technical fighter. Australian will be cherry for Loma, hopefully that will help him survive in this fight or win if he can, but I highly doubt that.

Kambosos is an admirable guy, he doesn't choose his opponent, and although he has 2 huge losses in his career, and yet he is still up for a challenge against a boxer that is viewed as better than him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Jating on February 04, 2024, 08:43:09 AM
That will be wrong strategy for Kambosos if he thinks he is the bigger guy and just bully Loma around. Loma loves fighter who bullies him as it brought the best in him, like Nakatani, when the Japanese tought that he has the reach and height advantage. But we have seen Loma's best fight that time, his footwork and technical and his speed was in full display that time.

So if Kambosos will do that and then realized that it's the wrong plan and doesn't have plan B, then I think it's going to be a easy fight for Loma. All night he will just pot shot Kambosos and for sure we will see George face in red as Loma will bludgeon it all night long.

I don't see him having a plan B in his last 2 losses. He faced Haney two times but the outcome was still the same. Haney who is on the same level with Loma, not seeing Kambosos here would be able to impose his bully to an experience technical fighter. Australian will be cherry for Loma, hopefully that will help him survive in this fight or win if he can, but I highly doubt that.

Kambosos is an admirable guy, he doesn't choose his opponent, and although he has 2 huge losses in his career, and yet he is still up for a challenge against a boxer that is viewed as better than him.

I think he did try to change his strategy on the second fight with Haney, but it was that Devin was too good for him and that he tries to bring the fight and caught Haney early, but as the round goes, it's obvious that Haney's defensive skill and boxing IQ is above George. He pride himself in his interview on how tough he is, and want he learns during his sparring with the great Manny Pacquaio. And maybe he holds it dearly and thinks that he can still be a world champion again despite facing here the best Olympian turn pro boxer in our generation.

And we can say that this is a crossroads fight for both of them, the loser will definitely have to think of his career. 3 loses for Kambosos and he might not get another opportunity to become great. While Loma is old and aging, he might have a couple of fights in him, but still gonna be a hard road to comeback due to his age.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on February 04, 2024, 09:26:20 AM
These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.

I beg to disagree with you mate as Devin Haney was schooled by Lomachenco in that fight but the judges see the other way around. It was a robbery at least for me and some of the fans of Loma here. Devin Haney refuses to give Loma the rematch that he deserves to settle the real score, afraid that in the rematch the judges would give Loma the win.

As for Kambosos vs Loma, I think this would be easy work for Lomachenco as he is very technical while Kambosos, though aggressive but doesn't have the power to put Loma down with just one punch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on February 04, 2024, 09:53:35 AM
These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.

I beg to disagree with you mate as Devin Haney was schooled by Lomachenco in that fight but the judges see the other way around. It was a robbery at least for me and some of the fans of Loma here. Devin Haney refuses to give Loma the rematch that he deserves to settle the real score, afraid that in the rematch the judges would give Loma the win.
That's what some boxing fans think. If Haney was really tough and a fair boxer, he should have given Loma a chance for a rematch and make sure he'll send the real message next time by beating Loma convincingly. Unfortunately, instead of doing that, he moved up and challenge the champion which is a good move too since he won the fight and now a champion.

We like to see a rematch between the two, we call it unfinish business but I highly doubt it will happen now that Haney had moved up already, and might move again.

As for Kambosos vs Loma, I think this would be easy work for Lomachenco as he is very technical while Kambosos, though aggressive but doesn't have the power to put Loma down with just one punch.

On paper there's already a clear winner here. However, it's on the venue that Kambosos has the edge, so if it will reach to the judges, I'm afraid he'll be rob again for the 2nd time around.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on February 07, 2024, 08:50:04 PM
That will be wrong strategy for Kambosos if he thinks he is the bigger guy and just bully Loma around. Loma loves fighter who bullies him as it brought the best in him, like Nakatani, when the Japanese tought that he has the reach and height advantage. But we have seen Loma's best fight that time, his footwork and technical and his speed was in full display that time.

So if Kambosos will do that and then realized that it's the wrong plan and doesn't have plan B, then I think it's going to be a easy fight for Loma. All night he will just pot shot Kambosos and for sure we will see George face in red as Loma will bludgeon it all night long.

I don't see him having a plan B in his last 2 losses. He faced Haney two times but the outcome was still the same. Haney who is on the same level with Loma, not seeing Kambosos here would be able to impose his bully to an experience technical fighter. Australian will be cherry for Loma, hopefully that will help him survive in this fight or win if he can, but I highly doubt that.

Kambosos is an admirable guy, he doesn't choose his opponent, and although he has 2 huge losses in his career, and yet he is still up for a challenge against a boxer that is viewed as better than him.

If his camp or team doesn't have a plan B, then it will be hard to beat a technical boxer like Loma here. I mean they should have learn from the Haney lost, that if the first strategy doesn't work, they have another plans and that is the sign of a good trainer.

I've seen great trainers like Roach or Teddy Atlas, rallying their fighters when their first strategy didn't work. However, as I have said, Loma's boxing IQ and his style might be difficult to anyone in boxing. And even in a lost against Teo, he is injured and try to comeback in that fight. Even at the Haney fight, we see him winning some rounds late and it could be a different outcome for some of us.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 07, 2024, 09:05:03 PM
These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.

I beg to disagree with you mate as Devin Haney was schooled by Lomachenco in that fight but the judges see the other way around. It was a robbery at least for me and some of the fans of Loma here. Devin Haney refuses to give Loma the rematch that he deserves to settle the real score, afraid that in the rematch the judges would give Loma the win.

As for Kambosos vs Loma, I think this would be easy work for Lomachenco as he is very technical while Kambosos, though aggressive but doesn't have the power to put Loma down with just one punch.

I agree, it's exaggerate to call Haney destroying Loma in their fight, scores where 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113. So it's not that he completely dominated that fight and others here thought that it was robbery by all means. It could have been a draw or even Loma winning this fight.

Style makes fight, and again if George Kambosos will not play defense and go brawl with Loma, it's going to be an early night as we can see Loma scoring a knockout.

Quick glance at the odds, still says that Kambosos is 5:1 underdog.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Russlenat on February 09, 2024, 02:52:54 PM
These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.

I beg to disagree with you mate as Devin Haney was schooled by Lomachenco in that fight but the judges see the other way around. It was a robbery at least for me and some of the fans of Loma here. Devin Haney refuses to give Loma the rematch that he deserves to settle the real score, afraid that in the rematch the judges would give Loma the win.

As for Kambosos vs Loma, I think this would be easy work for Lomachenco as he is very technical while Kambosos, though aggressive but doesn't have the power to put Loma down with just one punch.

I agree, it's exaggerate to call Haney destroying Loma in their fight, scores where 116-112, 115-113 and 115-113. So it's not that he completely dominated that fight and others here thought that it was robbery by all means. It could have been a draw or even Loma winning this fight.

Style makes fight, and again if George Kambosos will not play defense and go brawl with Loma, it's going to be an early night as we can see Loma scoring a knockout.
That's likely be the outcome of the fight since Kambosos doesn't  have to change his style, he'll struggle if he'll be a defensive fighter as he doesn't have the quickness, so rather, he will still rely on his power, will try to pressure Loma and hope he could score a knock out in the fight. Anything can happen, although obviously Loma is the heavy favorite, but just like what Kambosos did to Lopez, the same thing could happen there even at a slim chance.


Quick glance at the odds, still says that Kambosos is 5:1 underdog.

Not so attractive for Loma's bettors.  Thanks for the odds but I would just wait for the entire market of odds to be available. Besides, this fight is still 3 months from now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on February 09, 2024, 03:21:45 PM
If his camp or team doesn't have a plan B, then it will be hard to beat a technical boxer like Loma here. I mean they should have learn from the Haney lost, that if the first strategy doesn't work, they have another plans and that is the sign of a good trainer.

I've seen great trainers like Roach or Teddy Atlas, rallying their fighters when their first strategy didn't work. However, as I have said, Loma's boxing IQ and his style might be difficult to anyone in boxing. And even in a lost against Teo, he is injured and try to comeback in that fight. Even at the Haney fight, we see him winning some rounds late and it could be a different outcome for some of us.

The strategy they have (whatever it was) against Haney didn't work at all as Kambosos loss to Haney in their 2 fights. It would be too easy for Haney to move in the ring while scoring on Kambosos since he is just moving in one direction, all he has in his mind is counter and attack, the problem is he could not catch Haney who uses the same style as Mayweather.

Here, Loma doesn't move a lot but his punches are very accurate, he doesn't throw a lot of punches but once he throw it, we know it will hit.
Hopefully Kambosos will be able to survive if he will let himself as a punching bag.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 10, 2024, 07:38:26 AM
If his camp or team doesn't have a plan B, then it will be hard to beat a technical boxer like Loma here. I mean they should have learn from the Haney lost, that if the first strategy doesn't work, they have another plans and that is the sign of a good trainer.

I've seen great trainers like Roach or Teddy Atlas, rallying their fighters when their first strategy didn't work. However, as I have said, Loma's boxing IQ and his style might be difficult to anyone in boxing. And even in a lost against Teo, he is injured and try to comeback in that fight. Even at the Haney fight, we see him winning some rounds late and it could be a different outcome for some of us.

The strategy they have (whatever it was) against Haney didn't work at all as Kambosos loss to Haney in their 2 fights. It would be too easy for Haney to move in the ring while scoring on Kambosos since he is just moving in one direction, all he has in his mind is counter and attack, the problem is he could not catch Haney who uses the same style as Mayweather.

Here, Loma doesn't move a lot but his punches are very accurate, he doesn't throw a lot of punches but once he throw it, we know it will hit.
Hopefully Kambosos will be able to survive if he will let himself as a punching bag.

Yeah, George could be a tough boxer, but if he is against a technical boxer in Loma, who uses more foot work and then go with volume punching every round, it's hard to counter that one. Unless George become a counter puncher, but it's hard to be become a counter counter against one of the best tactician we have in boxing ring in Loma.

It might go to 12 rounds and that could be the best Kambosos and hope that some of the rounds is going to be close and maybe the judges awarding him the points. Loma has been in several controversial fights and it seems he has been receiving the short deal. Against Salido, Teo Lopez and then recently against Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: stadus on February 10, 2024, 02:09:15 PM
Yeah, George could be a tough boxer, but if he is against a technical boxer in Loma, who uses more foot work and then go with volume punching every round, it's hard to counter that one. Unless George become a counter puncher, but it's hard to be become a counter counter against one of the best tactician we have in boxing ring in Loma.

It might go to 12 rounds and that could be the best Kambosos and hope that some of the rounds is going to be close and maybe the judges awarding him the points. Loma has been in several controversial fights and it seems he has been receiving the short deal. Against Salido, Teo Lopez and then recently against Haney.

George is tough because he will fight until 12 rounds, he doesn't even looked gas because of his great conditioning, but it differs on the strategy of the fight, since he is not a technical fighter, most likely his strategy can easily be predicted. Since he does loss to Haney twice via unanimous decision, I don't expect him to give Lomachenko a problem.

Lomachenko gave Haney a problem in the ring although he loss, so George is like facing a fighter that are on the same level with Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Jating on February 11, 2024, 09:24:25 PM
I might be wrong, but I haven't seen anyone posted the kick off press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpbcltnTnko

Kambosos says it's all about legacy, while Loma is still hunting his dream to be undisputed again. There's no disrespect from Kambosos here, even if Loma telling him that he lost to Haney twice.

So both agree that style makes fight, and so they are contrasting style and hopefully it will be exciting as we fans have been envisioning this. Kambosos aggressive and the Loma, techniques in full display. We can't wait for this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Saisher on February 11, 2024, 09:38:03 PM
I might be wrong, but I haven't seen anyone posted the kick off press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpbcltnTnko

Kambosos says it's all about legacy, while Loma is still hunting his dream to be undisputed again. There's no disrespect from Kambosos here, even if Loma telling him that he lost to Haney twice.

So both agree that style makes fight, and so they are contrasting style and hopefully it will be exciting as we fans have been envisioning this. Kambosos aggressive and the Loma, techniques in full display. We can't wait for this.
Kambosos is made for Loma, Loma is good in countering so he will be an easy target and can score easily, Kambosos is a good boxer no doubt but his third loss is looming kambosos is not yet on Loma's level eventhough he beat the man who beat the man.

Both are desperate to be back on top again but like all the rest I see Loma's fighting style way ahead of Kambosos, the poll reflects what will be the outcome of the fight.

Lomachenko by KO    - 8 (66.7%)
Lomachenko by decision    - 4 (33.3%)
Kambosos by KO    - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision    - 0 (0%)
Draw    - 0 (0%)
   
Total Voters: 12


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Hirose UK on February 12, 2024, 06:29:59 AM
These two boxers were previously destroyed by Devin Haney and this will be quite an interesting fight because this fight is really important for them to continue to have career in the world of boxing.
So far, Kambosos has only been defeated by Devin Haney, so when he meets Lomachenko he will really be aiming for quicker win.

I beg to disagree with you mate as Devin Haney was schooled by Lomachenco in that fight but the judges see the other way around. It was a robbery at least for me and some of the fans of Loma here. Devin Haney refuses to give Loma the rematch that he deserves to settle the real score, afraid that in the rematch the judges would give Loma the win.

As for Kambosos vs Loma, I think this would be easy work for Lomachenco as he is very technical while Kambosos, though aggressive but doesn't have the power to put Loma down with just one punch.
I know that and indeed Lomachenco has punch that is superior to Devin Haney but in reality the jury gave points verdict that Devin Haney had unanimous victory, this makes many people feel that there is no justice but the referee decision cannot be changed by anyone.
We know how Devin Haney refused to have rematch, but it was refusal that was worth doing because if it really happened then there would also be chance for him to experience defeat and Devin Haney would definitely lose the belt or title he had won.
A boxer has the right to refuse any fight challenge that is given, but when there is rejection, he must be prepared to accept any conditions such as sentiments that occur among the public or boxing fans.
What is clear for sure is that Devin Haney has caused these two fighters to lose and that is victory that no one can dispute, we as fans can only judge it, not to change the outcome.

This is fight that is quite difficult to predict who will win the fight, what is clear is that Kambosos has chance for knockout victory but if it all comes down to the last round then I will support decision win for Lomachenco.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 12, 2024, 02:56:12 PM
I might be wrong, but I haven't seen anyone posted the kick off press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpbcltnTnko

Kambosos says it's all about legacy, while Loma is still hunting his dream to be undisputed again. There's no disrespect from Kambosos here, even if Loma telling him that he lost to Haney twice.

So both agree that style makes fight, and so they are contrasting style and hopefully it will be exciting as we fans have been envisioning this. Kambosos aggressive and the Loma, techniques in full display. We can't wait for this.
Kambosos is made for Loma, Loma is good in countering so he will be an easy target and can score easily, Kambosos is a good boxer no doubt but his third loss is looming kambosos is not yet on Loma's level eventhough he beat the man who beat the man.

Both are desperate to be back on top again but like all the rest I see Loma's fighting style way ahead of Kambosos, the poll reflects what will be the outcome of the fight.

Lomachenko by KO    - 8 (66.7%)
Lomachenko by decision    - 4 (33.3%)
Kambosos by KO    - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision    - 0 (0%)
Draw    - 0 (0%)
   
Total Voters: 12

None of the 12 voted for Kambosos to win the game. We can't blame them since Kambosos career was destroyed by Haney. I like him being desperate though as he just want to take the opportunity to go back on top again, he is not afraid to take a challenge despite majority if not all of us here believe he has no chance of beating Loma who is very technical as a fighter.  I'm surprise that 66% believe it will be Loma winning by KO instead of decision, maybe they believ that the style of Kambosos would put him into a big trouble of getting KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Botnake on February 13, 2024, 02:30:11 PM
I might be wrong, but I haven't seen anyone posted the kick off press conference,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpbcltnTnko

Kambosos says it's all about legacy, while Loma is still hunting his dream to be undisputed again. There's no disrespect from Kambosos here, even if Loma telling him that he lost to Haney twice.

So both agree that style makes fight, and so they are contrasting style and hopefully it will be exciting as we fans have been envisioning this. Kambosos aggressive and the Loma, techniques in full display. We can't wait for this.
Kambosos is made for Loma, Loma is good in countering so he will be an easy target and can score easily, Kambosos is a good boxer no doubt but his third loss is looming kambosos is not yet on Loma's level eventhough he beat the man who beat the man.

Both are desperate to be back on top again but like all the rest I see Loma's fighting style way ahead of Kambosos, the poll reflects what will be the outcome of the fight.

Lomachenko by KO    - 8 (66.7%)
Lomachenko by decision    - 4 (33.3%)
Kambosos by KO    - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision    - 0 (0%)
Draw    - 0 (0%)
   
Total Voters: 12

None of the 12 voted for Kambosos to win the game. We can't blame them since Kambosos career was destroyed by Haney. I like him being desperate though as he just want to take the opportunity to go back on top again, he is not afraid to take a challenge despite majority if not all of us here believe he has no chance of beating Loma who is very technical as a fighter. 
I've never seen Kambosos backed down on this previous fights. Although he is losing, he still keep going forward and try to look for the knock out. Boxers like him is fun to watch, but his strategy is quite not effective against a boxer who are already good when being pressured in the ring, as they know how to make the right adjustment using their quickness and IQ in the ring, that's why people call Loma being a technical fighter like Haney.

When Haney vs Loma faced each other, both are technical fighters, that's why it ended on a controversial decision.

I'm surprise that 66% believe it will be Loma winning by KO instead of decision, maybe they believ that the style of Kambosos would put him into a big trouble of getting KO.
I'm not surprise anymore since Kambosos is too careless when he attacks, so there's a huge possibility that he'll be caught up with a clean counter punch, and that could hurt him and will go down losing via KO. Or, Loma will find his weakness and Loma keeps attacking until he gets KO, either way, it still ends up in KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: yazher on February 13, 2024, 04:23:48 PM

None of the 12 voted for Kambosos to win the game. We can't blame them since Kambosos career was destroyed by Haney. I like him being desperate though as he just want to take the opportunity to go back on top again, he is not afraid to take a challenge despite majority if not all of us here believe he has no chance of beating Loma who is very technical as a fighter.  I'm surprise that 66% believe it will be Loma winning by KO instead of decision, maybe they believ that the style of Kambosos would put him into a big trouble of getting KO.

The only chance he has is to train some new skills to surprise Loma but that'll be hard for him since a veteran fighter like Loma can quickly switch to counter whatever he prepared against him. Unless Kambosos is fast and powerful enough to shake Loma in every jab but that's not the case and we all know that he will be the one to take more powerful punches until he finally gives up because he can take those punches anymore. More likely the result will be like how Beterbiev defeated Callum Smith or it might gonna end earlier because the gap between these two boxers is way too far.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 14, 2024, 10:50:45 AM

None of the 12 voted for Kambosos to win the game. We can't blame them since Kambosos career was destroyed by Haney. I like him being desperate though as he just want to take the opportunity to go back on top again, he is not afraid to take a challenge despite majority if not all of us here believe he has no chance of beating Loma who is very technical as a fighter.  I'm surprise that 66% believe it will be Loma winning by KO instead of decision, maybe they believ that the style of Kambosos would put him into a big trouble of getting KO.

The only chance he has is to train some new skills to surprise Loma but that'll be hard for him since a veteran fighter like Loma can quickly switch to counter whatever he prepared against him. Unless Kambosos is fast and powerful enough to shake Loma in every jab but that's not the case and we all know that he will be the one to take more powerful punches until he finally gives up because he can take those punches anymore. More likely the result will be like how Beterbiev defeated Callum Smith or it might gonna end earlier because the gap between these two boxers is way too far.
And that's what you love George Kambosos, he learn to capitalized even if he lost twice to Haney. And most likely it has luck has something to do with it. He is with Top Rank and so is Loma. And now that the belt is vacant, they are given a chance by the body to fight for it. So even if his career is destroyed, he can bounce back with just another win here. But it's not going to be easy, Loma is also on a way to recover from that controversial defeat and he has been dreaming again to become a champion since their first fight was cancelled because of the war in his native country. But Kambosos is a huge underdog but he might be looking at another performance that he pulled against Teo Lopez. So he is looking for a big upset here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on February 14, 2024, 12:11:05 PM

None of the 12 voted for Kambosos to win the game. We can't blame them since Kambosos career was destroyed by Haney. I like him being desperate though as he just want to take the opportunity to go back on top again, he is not afraid to take a challenge despite majority if not all of us here believe he has no chance of beating Loma who is very technical as a fighter.  I'm surprise that 66% believe it will be Loma winning by KO instead of decision, maybe they believ that the style of Kambosos would put him into a big trouble of getting KO.

The only chance he has is to train some new skills to surprise Loma but that'll be hard for him since a veteran fighter like Loma can quickly switch to counter whatever he prepared against him. Unless Kambosos is fast and powerful enough to shake Loma in every jab but that's not the case and we all know that he will be the one to take more powerful punches until he finally gives up because he can take those punches anymore. More likely the result will be like how Beterbiev defeated Callum Smith or it might gonna end earlier because the gap between these two boxers is way too far.
And that's what you love George Kambosos, he learn to capitalized even if he lost twice to Haney. And most likely it has luck has something to do with it. He is with Top Rank and so is Loma. And now that the belt is vacant, they are given a chance by the body to fight for it. So even if his career is destroyed, he can bounce back with just another win here. But it's not going to be easy, Loma is also on a way to recover from that controversial defeat and he has been dreaming again to become a champion since their first fight was cancelled because of the war in his native country. But Kambosos is a huge underdog but he might be looking at another performance that he pulled against Teo Lopez. So he is looking for a big upset here.
It's never been easy for Kambosos as he is an underrated fighter. Even with his fight agianst Lopez where he won, the was the underdog that time, and he proved that despite being an underdog, he can still be aggressive like a champion. Therefore although everything is on Loma's advantage, we can't underestimate a fighter that is hungry to bounce back. Well, literally, both boxers are coming from a loss against Haney, therefore we can expect that it's gonna be a war between the two.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on February 14, 2024, 01:24:09 PM

It's never been easy for Kambosos as he is an underrated fighter. Even with his fight against Lopez where he won, the was the underdog that time, and he proved that despite being an underdog, he can still be aggressive like a champion.
And he beat Lopez that fight because he got into the heat of Lopez. The latter, loves to go toe to toe and that's what Kambosos wants. unfortunately for Lopez is that he could not land a clean shots on Kambosos, instead, he was the one making mistakes absorbing the counter punches of Kambosos. After that, Lopez move up and now dominated the current division when he is a champion.

Therefore although everything is on Loma's advantage, we can't underestimate a fighter that is hungry to bounce back. Well, literally, both boxers are coming from a loss against Haney, therefore we can expect that it's gonna be a war between the two.
I'm sure Loma will not underestimate Kambosos especially that the fight is held in Australia. Kambosos could get the support of the fans that will inspire him to win the fight. Loma sure understands it since he's been in many championship fights and he succeeded most of them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Botnake on February 14, 2024, 03:11:20 PM

It's never been easy for Kambosos as he is an underrated fighter. Even with his fight against Lopez where he won, the was the underdog that time, and he proved that despite being an underdog, he can still be aggressive like a champion.
And he beat Lopez that fight because he got into the heat of Lopez. The latter, loves to go toe to toe and that's what Kambosos wants. unfortunately for Lopez is that he could not land a clean shots on Kambosos, instead, he was the one making mistakes absorbing the counter punches of Kambosos. After that, Lopez move up and now dominated the current division when he is a champion.
And that was the only impressive fight of Kambosos, after that, he failed his attempt fighting another popular boxer which is Haney. however, for Teofimo, it was all success for him since he move up and just recently he was able to defend his title against Jamaine Ortiz.


Therefore although everything is on Loma's advantage, we can't underestimate a fighter that is hungry to bounce back. Well, literally, both boxers are coming from a loss against Haney, therefore we can expect that it's gonna be a war between the two.
I'm sure Loma will not underestimate Kambosos especially that the fight is held in Australia. Kambosos could get the support of the fans that will inspire him to win the fight. Loma sure understands it since he's been in many championship fights and he succeeded most of them.
Loma is a professional on the court, he takes his job seriously, he doesn't play around, so expect that what you will see is purely base on the game plan they are trying him to employ. Loma is not a volume puncher because his aim is very accurate, he conserves his energy well and only punches at the right timing.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: mu_enrico on February 14, 2024, 03:38:42 PM
Lomachenko is one of my favorite boxers, too bad he started pro too old... If Loma can fight 100% without injury, he can beat Kambosos by UD. Kambosos couldn't handle Haney as well as Loma, and I'd argue Loma was robbed that night. The problem is that Loma is injury-prone, and he is already past his prime. The fact that the match is in Aussy means hometown advantage for Kambosos as well. Anyway, if you look at Stake odds: Loma 1.13 vs Kambosos 5.40, the latter one is more tempting. Moreover, if you pick winning by decision for Kambosos, it will be 8.00... not bad! (DYOR & DWYOR).


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 14, 2024, 08:04:45 PM
Lomachenko is one of my favorite boxers, too bad he started pro too old... If Loma can fight 100% without injury, he can beat Kambosos by UD. Kambosos couldn't handle Haney as well as Loma, and I'd argue Loma was robbed that night. The problem is that Loma is injury-prone, and he is already past his prime. The fact that the match is in Aussy means hometown advantage for Kambosos as well. Anyway, if you look at Stake odds: Loma 1.13 vs Kambosos 5.40, the latter one is more tempting. Moreover, if you pick winning by decision for Kambosos, it will be 8.00... not bad! (DYOR & DWYOR).

That's true, it's because he uses to be on the amateurs for a long time. But when he turn pro, he was given a chance for the belt in his second fight (if I'm not mistaken). And I think that is the record that still stands today.

Yes, not bad, but it's the question whether Kambosos can win in this fight. He is a huge underdog against "Hi-Tech" here. I was just thinking that Loma's age might have caught up with him already. But I think he can still beat Kambosos here and become a world champion. And I remember when they released his training, some new method that time and that's why they called him that monicker because he really shows that in the ring with his head and foot movement that we haven't seen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 15, 2024, 07:00:21 AM
Lomachenko is one of my favorite boxers, too bad he started pro too old... If Loma can fight 100% without injury, he can beat Kambosos by UD. Kambosos couldn't handle Haney as well as Loma, and I'd argue Loma was robbed that night. The problem is that Loma is injury-prone, and he is already past his prime. The fact that the match is in Aussy means hometown advantage for Kambosos as well. Anyway, if you look at Stake odds: Loma 1.13 vs Kambosos 5.40, the latter one is more tempting. Moreover, if you pick winning by decision for Kambosos, it will be 8.00... not bad! (DYOR & DWYOR).

That's true, it's because he uses to be on the amateurs for a long time. But when he turn pro, he was given a chance for the belt in his second fight (if I'm not mistaken). And I think that is the record that still stands today.

Yes, not bad, but it's the question whether Kambosos can win in this fight. He is a huge underdog against "Hi-Tech" here. I was just thinking that Loma's age might have caught up with him already. But I think he can still beat Kambosos here and become a world champion. And I remember when they released his training, some new method that time and that's why they called him that monicker because he really shows that in the ring with his head and foot movement that we haven't seen.

I saw his amateur record too, it was very impressive. That's why we can't judge his number of fights in pro and conclude he doesn't have much experience. 

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Lomachenko is one of the most successful amateur boxers of all time, possessing a record of 396 wins and 1 loss, with that loss avenged twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasiliy_Lomachenko

Also an Olympic Gold medalist, so he is an accomplished fighter. With that reason, it's clear enough that Kambosos has not chance here.

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Following a forced move up to lightweight, he won his second consecutive Olympic gold medal at the 2012 Olympic Games in London to become a rare two-weight Olympic champion.[15] He defeated Han Soon-Chul of South Korea in the final, 19–9, and was a strong candidate to win the Val Barker Trophy for a second time in what would have historically been an unprecedented feat. Ultimately, he was edged out by welterweight gold medal winner, Serik Sapiyev, of Kazakhstan.[16]


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on February 15, 2024, 08:45:27 AM
Financially, this is a great decision for Loma to face Kambosos rather than the risky but not marketable Shakur Stevenson. But what is surprising to me is the Australian sponsors' willingness to host even if Kambosos was proven as a limited fighter. After being humiliated twice by Haney and a very poor performance which resulted in a controversial decision against an unknown Maxi Hughes, I won't be surprised if the aging Loma can still score a stoppage here.

Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 15, 2024, 09:57:41 AM
Lomachenko is one of my favorite boxers, too bad he started pro too old... If Loma can fight 100% without injury, he can beat Kambosos by UD. Kambosos couldn't handle Haney as well as Loma, and I'd argue Loma was robbed that night. The problem is that Loma is injury-prone, and he is already past his prime. The fact that the match is in Aussy means hometown advantage for Kambosos as well. Anyway, if you look at Stake odds: Loma 1.13 vs Kambosos 5.40, the latter one is more tempting. Moreover, if you pick winning by decision for Kambosos, it will be 8.00... not bad! (DYOR & DWYOR).

That's true, it's because he uses to be on the amateurs for a long time. But when he turn pro, he was given a chance for the belt in his second fight (if I'm not mistaken). And I think that is the record that still stands today.

Yes, not bad, but it's the question whether Kambosos can win in this fight. He is a huge underdog against "Hi-Tech" here. I was just thinking that Loma's age might have caught up with him already. But I think he can still beat Kambosos here and become a world champion. And I remember when they released his training, some new method that time and that's why they called him that monicker because he really shows that in the ring with his head and foot movement that we haven't seen.

I saw his amateur record too, it was very impressive. That's why we can't judge his number of fights in pro and conclude he doesn't have much experience. 

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Lomachenko is one of the most successful amateur boxers of all time, possessing a record of 396 wins and 1 loss, with that loss avenged twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasiliy_Lomachenko

Also an Olympic Gold medalist, so he is an accomplished fighter. With that reason, it's clear enough that Kambosos has not chance here.

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Following a forced move up to lightweight, he won his second consecutive Olympic gold medal at the 2012 Olympic Games in London to become a rare two-weight Olympic champion.[15] He defeated Han Soon-Chul of South Korea in the final, 19–9, and was a strong candidate to win the Val Barker Trophy for a second time in what would have historically been an unprecedented feat. Ultimately, he was edged out by welterweight gold medal winner, Serik Sapiyev, of Kazakhstan.[16]

Yes, he was literally undefeated at the amateurs and Olympic, he took revenge on that 1 lost he got and then beat Sapiyev twice.

Anyhow, pro might be different for him as he has suffered defeat already, but he has become a world champion already and we think that he can still make it even at his age against Kambosos. Sorry for George Kambosos fans, but it seems that he is just one dimensional fighter.

But he nows how to capitalized when he beat Teo Lopez and still trying to claim his belt back.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PM
Lomachenko is one of my favorite boxers, too bad he started pro too old... If Loma can fight 100% without injury, he can beat Kambosos by UD. Kambosos couldn't handle Haney as well as Loma, and I'd argue Loma was robbed that night. The problem is that Loma is injury-prone, and he is already past his prime. The fact that the match is in Aussy means hometown advantage for Kambosos as well. Anyway, if you look at Stake odds: Loma 1.13 vs Kambosos 5.40, the latter one is more tempting. Moreover, if you pick winning by decision for Kambosos, it will be 8.00... not bad! (DYOR & DWYOR).

That's true, it's because he uses to be on the amateurs for a long time. But when he turn pro, he was given a chance for the belt in his second fight (if I'm not mistaken). And I think that is the record that still stands today.

Yes, not bad, but it's the question whether Kambosos can win in this fight. He is a huge underdog against "Hi-Tech" here. I was just thinking that Loma's age might have caught up with him already. But I think he can still beat Kambosos here and become a world champion. And I remember when they released his training, some new method that time and that's why they called him that monicker because he really shows that in the ring with his head and foot movement that we haven't seen.

I saw his amateur record too, it was very impressive. That's why we can't judge his number of fights in pro and conclude he doesn't have much experience. 

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Lomachenko is one of the most successful amateur boxers of all time, possessing a record of 396 wins and 1 loss, with that loss avenged twice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasiliy_Lomachenko

Also an Olympic Gold medalist, so he is an accomplished fighter. With that reason, it's clear enough that Kambosos has not chance here.

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Following a forced move up to lightweight, he won his second consecutive Olympic gold medal at the 2012 Olympic Games in London to become a rare two-weight Olympic champion.[15] He defeated Han Soon-Chul of South Korea in the final, 19–9, and was a strong candidate to win the Val Barker Trophy for a second time in what would have historically been an unprecedented feat. Ultimately, he was edged out by welterweight gold medal winner, Serik Sapiyev, of Kazakhstan.[16]

Yes, he was literally undefeated at the amateurs and Olympic, he took revenge on that 1 lost he got and then beat Sapiyev twice.

Anyhow, pro might be different for him as he has suffered defeat already, but he has become a world champion already and we think that he can still make it even at his age against Kambosos. Sorry for George Kambosos fans, but it seems that he is just one dimensional fighter.

But he nows how to capitalized when he beat Teo Lopez and still trying to claim his belt back.

It's undeniable that he suffered defeat in his pro but all his defeats are controvertial, particularly the last one. Loma hasn't been dominated on the court, if he loss people does not agree on the result although the judges had scored a "UD" on the winner. It seems like Loma isn't a good market in boxing that's why judges are not on his favor against a popular boxers like Haney and Lopez.

All those are just a speculation of the people, you know, they have their own speculation as they do not agree with the judges when he lose. Maybe if he would be KO then there's nothing to argue, all they can give is respect to the boxer who can KO Loma. Against Kambosos although the Australian has power, but can he make a good strategy to counter Loma effectively? That's a big question most fans of boxing would answer no.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 16, 2024, 11:30:00 AM
^^ Even his first lost is controversial, his 2nd fight against the veteran Oscar Salido, Oscar came in over weight in the fight and so he lost the belt on the scale. But then Loma loses in a split decision but due to Salido coming in the fight over weight Loma was awarded the belt, what a controversy.

And then his lost to Teo Lopez, later on we fight that he had a injury in his shoulder.

Obviously, his last defeat against Haney too is a bit controversial, many of us thinks that he did enough to win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Maslate on February 16, 2024, 02:22:36 PM
^^ Even his first lost is controversial, his 2nd fight against the veteran Oscar Salido, Oscar came in over weight in the fight and so he lost the belt on the scale. But then Loma loses in a split decision but due to Salido coming in the fight over weight Loma was awarded the belt, what a controversy.
That I am not so aware bout this as I starting following Loma after that fight. I thought he was undefeated but then I saw he has one loss against Salido. Thanks for giving light on what happen, now I know, no wonder people are not talking about that loss of Loma.

And then his lost to Teo Lopez, later on we fight that he had a injury in his shoulder.
This one was a legit loss, although he had an injury but he can't make that as an excuse especially if he had that already before the fight but just continue knowingly he isn't 100%. Everyone has an excuse though, but if we'll symphatize on that, it will be disrespectful to Teo who is a great boxer (now a champ).

Obviously, his last defeat against Haney too is a bit controversial, many of us thinks that he did enough to win the fight.
But it was a unanimous decision, if we judge only on the result without watching the fight, we will think he was dominated but it wasn't really that way, that's why it was a controversial decision but we gotta respect that. Anyway, Loma could correct that in a rematch if Haney would allow, but right now he has to win his upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on February 17, 2024, 10:43:21 AM
Financially, this is a great decision for Loma to face Kambosos rather than the risky but not marketable Shakur Stevenson. But what is surprising to me is the Australian sponsors' willingness to host even if Kambosos was proven as a limited fighter. After being humiliated twice by Haney and a very poor performance which resulted in a controversial decision against an unknown Maxi Hughes, I won't be surprised if the aging Loma can still score a stoppage here.

I think those who back up Kambosos still think that George is marketable, but it is just in Australia. And perhaps Arum convinced Loma with it that the fight should happen in Australia and not in the US since both of them are non-American. So they can still make a lot of money here.

Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on February 17, 2024, 11:28:43 AM
^^ And probably that will be the plan for the "retired" Shakur Stevenson, wait for the result of this fight and then winner sets up a fight for him in the belt. Hopefully it will be Loma though as they have contrasting style.

However, as you have said, Shakur is good but is not very marketable in the US. And what Top Rank did is have him fight in his native home town. But they can't do that in his next fight, especially if it will be as big as this one. Top Rank will have to take that risk and maybe lose money here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on February 17, 2024, 11:36:10 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 17, 2024, 12:28:11 PM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

That's another big fight for Loma, and if he'll succeed in this fight and the deal is done, then he is like fighting Haney on that fight. And the good news is if he'll defeat Shakur, he'll be back at the top and Haney if he goes down again might go with a rematch with Loma as sure people are still going to get hype with that, easy for the promoters to market the fight.

Shakur's last fight was last year Nov 11 against Edwin De Los Santos, and he won that fight through unanimous decision. I'm sure that Shakur will be tested if he'll square up with Loma who's a technical fighter, and who knows, he might crack the code on how to defeat opponents like Shakur or Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on February 17, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

That's another big fight for Loma, and if he'll succeed in this fight and the deal is done, then he is like fighting Haney on that fight. And the good news is if he'll defeat Shakur, he'll be back at the top and Haney if he goes down again might go with a rematch with Loma as sure people are still going to get hype with that, easy for the promoters to market the fight.

Shakur's last fight was last year Nov 11 against Edwin De Los Santos, and he won that fight through unanimous decision. I'm sure that Shakur will be tested if he'll square up with Loma who's a technical fighter, and who knows, he might crack the code on how to defeat opponents like Shakur or Haney.

We always like to see the best fight for Loma. This fight is just not so hype since people know that Kambosos career is slowly going down after his two losses to Haney. The damage has been done for him, he took a higher risk, and he pay for the price. But just like Loma who aim to win big after losing to Haney, the same goes to Kambosos who are aiming to win a big fight so he'll go back in the list of popular boxers.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 20, 2024, 11:21:34 PM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

Yes sir, this is what we fans wanted, let's assumed that Loma win against George, then Shakur will be a great fight to see next. I think Shakur also wanted to test his skills against Loma and so most likely he will be very interested. And as said previously, Top Rank has a lot of good fighters in the 135 lbs and they can just fight each other and the winner will be Bob Arum.

Shakur though says that he is retired, but I don't think that is real. Maybe he is just waiting for good fighters to come, but one opinion against Shakur is that he is boring, just like in his last fight wherein he just avoided Edwin delos Santos.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Darker45 on February 21, 2024, 12:03:24 AM
Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on February 21, 2024, 08:55:13 PM
Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I agree, this is a big fight for him, after that controversial lost against Haney, he will have to find a way to bounce back and this is another great opportunity for him. I think he can still pull that trigger and he will show that in this fight.

I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.

Yes, Kambosos is a huge underdog, I think it's fair to see him in that position. His style is suited for Loma, there might not be a knockout or a knockdown, but we might see Loma dominating Kambosos in his country.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on February 23, 2024, 06:37:53 PM
Lomachenko will have his redemption in this fight. I voted for Loma by unanimous decision. Loma still got those very quick hands. At 36, he still got his incredible foot work. And knowing that Kambosos doesn't fight in a distance, I think Loma can easily outscore him. Not expecting a knockout, though.

I agree, this is a big fight for him, after that controversial lost against Haney, he will have to find a way to bounce back and this is another great opportunity for him. I think he can still pull that trigger and he will show that in this fight.
At least he tried all the best options to get back to the top. Though this one is really tough for him, and it's very evident here that people don't trust him to win. But at this point in his career, he needs to take risks as he has nothing to lose anymore.


I checked the odds. They're quite lop-sided but probably fair. Loma is the huge favorite at 1.18. Kambosos, on the other hand, is the underdog at 4.4. DraftKings even has Loma at 1.13 and Kambosos at 5.75.

Yes, Kambosos is a huge underdog, I think it's fair to see him in that position. His style is suited for Loma, there might not be a knockout or a knockdown, but we might see Loma dominating Kambosos in his country.

Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on February 23, 2024, 07:00:09 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 23, 2024, 07:21:37 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.
They did it once, so it will not happen again, as they don't want to accept a lot of criticism. It's also not good for promoters, as they'll know people would not watch if the fight is held in a country where decisions are expected to be biased. This is a title fight; they have to be careful with this, as it's the reputation of the IBF that will be at stake. Just like the fight of Pacman vs Horn, Pacman was the heavy favorite but ended up losing in a unanimous decision; it was a robbery in broad daylight. Horn will never be forgotten, as he is already in the books since Pacman is a legend.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
That's clearly up to him, he has no reputation to protect, so if his intention is to still enjoy his passion and make money at the same time, he'll remain in the pro but he's not gonna have big fights again since he'll drop to the bottom after this.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 23, 2024, 09:23:51 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.
I'm not sure if they have similar style, what I noticed though during the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao is that Jeff is a bigger fighter and so he bullish Manny that time and that is enough for the corrupt judges to see him winning. But in this fight, I don't think that George can bully Loma here. Loma is too technical and it might be a wrong strategy for him as I'm seeing that Loma will counter him with short left and right hand.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
He can still fight, but I don't think that he will be given chances again to fight for the belt. But who knows, Bob Arum has this influence and his Top Rank has control of boxers in the lower weight. So maybe they can have George fight up and coming fighters for the money.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 23, 2024, 09:48:21 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?

To be fair, there's not one high profile robbery fight in years in Australia after the Horn vs Pacquiao fight. Maybe they know that it did bring bad stigma to them. So now they are very careful of the fights being held that involved Australian. They still have Tim Tszyu as a champion and he had fights in Australia that hasn't been home cook, although it's either a stoppage win for Tim or a knockout victory.

But I will do agree that Loma shouldn't be self-assured here, in the Haney fight for me might have slow down in the championship rounds that's why Haney was able to steal the win in that fight. So he shouldn't do it here, he needs to show he has still the killer instinct to finished and knock his opponent out.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Distinctin on February 25, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?

To be fair, there's not one high profile robbery fight in years in Australia after the Horn vs Pacquiao fight. Maybe they know that it did bring bad stigma to them. So now they are very careful of the fights being held that involved Australian. They still have Tim Tszyu as a champion and he had fights in Australia that hasn't been home cook, although it's either a stoppage win for Tim or a knockout victory.

But I will do agree that Loma shouldn't be self-assured here, in the Haney fight for me might have slow down in the championship rounds that's why Haney was able to steal the win in that fight. So he shouldn't do it here, he needs to show he has still the killer instinct to finished and knock his opponent out.

Robbery normally happens when a champion loses to a challenger. In the case of Tim Tszyu, he seemed to be the favorite or the champion, so he was expected to win. In this fight, Loma is the heavy favorite, so it will be controversial if the public perceives the fight as dominated by Loma, but it turns out that the victory is given to Kambosos if it goes the full 12 rounds.

I think every boxer fighting in the opponent's home country will make sure to secure a KO victory or at least show a very impressive performance to win, just to prevent this kind of controversial result from happening.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 26, 2024, 03:23:24 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 26, 2024, 09:18:36 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on February 26, 2024, 11:31:00 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

Some fans, yeah, but most of the fans believed he would not win. In fact, if we go back to the betting odds at that time, Haney was a clear favorite among the bookies, suggesting that he would win the fight. In fact, that's what happened. It wasn't a win that he had a hard time achieving, as it was just like a walk in the park for Haney. There's a huge difference in quickness, as Haney could easily hit Prograis and go back on his defense. Maybe his domination will continue, and I agree that he might move up sooner or later.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 26, 2024, 09:17:15 PM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

Obviously, there are no boxers that can stay in one division, specially for those who have started in lower weight class. We have seen a lot of legendary and not so great boxers going up in weight. So I'm seeing both Shakur and Tank Davis could go up in weight, but it has to do with the timing. Maybe when some of the 140 lbs champions goes to welterweight like Teo and Haney maybe these two will have to jump.

Tank Davis for me will have to still proved himself in this 135 lbs. He has started now, Frank Martin in his next fight. But his true test will be Shakur and Loma. And I think he can beat both of this fighters. No more paper or free belt for Tank, he should earn it and fight the best and clean up this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 27, 2024, 05:28:08 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract.

This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on February 27, 2024, 08:52:05 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract.

I think it's Ryan or GBP who wanted the fight and that's the price they have to pay. As they allowed Tank and his camp to put a lot of clause in their contract, including rehydration and how big Ryan could be in the fight itself. Reasoning is that they don't want Ryan to have the advantage.

This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on February 27, 2024, 12:47:25 PM
This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

Tank avoided the rematch with Pitbull but when the latter struggled against the green but awkward Giovanni Cabrera in his last fight, a rematch was mentioned again. But maybe because of the many criticisms that Tank is just cherry picking and only wanted the rematch when Pitbull was showing weak in its last fight it failed to materialize probably because of the network unwilling to guarantee of a big purse.

Anyways, I expect Loma to win and become champion again. But I do not think he still has enough left to beat Shakur. Shakur just said he is fighting again but will only honor the last remaining fight with Top Rank. So I am not sure if there are networks and promoter that are willing to offer more money for a boring fighter like Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 28, 2024, 10:10:45 PM
This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

Tank avoided the rematch with Pitbull but when the latter struggled against the green but awkward Giovanni Cabrera in his last fight, a rematch was mentioned again. But maybe because of the many criticisms that Tank is just cherry picking and only wanted the rematch when Pitbull was showing weak in its last fight it failed to materialize probably because of the network unwilling to guarantee of a big purse.

Anyways, I expect Loma to win and become champion again. But I do not think he still has enough left to beat Shakur. Shakur just said he is fighting again but will only honor the last remaining fight with Top Rank. So I am not sure if there are networks and promoter that are willing to offer more money for a boring fighter like Shakur.

That's what I'm trying to say with Tank, he chooses easy fight, that it might look and close in paper but still he is the A-side and going to knockout his opponent. Even in the Rolly Romero fight, Rolly in relatively unknown, but they try to spin as if Rolly has a punchers change against Tank and that Floyd or someone from his team thinks that Rolly can beat Tank.

I think that will be the leverage of Top Rank for Shakur to sign with them again, he will be given the chance to fight Loma which is one of his dream fights. It will be a big test for him and let's see if he can get the belt, assuming the Loma wins against George Kambosos in Australia.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 29, 2024, 04:31:10 AM
Regardless, I am curious what's next to the winner. When the coward Tank Davis was given a free belt, I doubt there will be another undisputed champion in this division soon. Shakur is the best fighter in this division but because of his boring and unmarketable style, the other champions will have more reasons to just duck him.

It's in house money for Top Rank, I think Shakur is going to fight the winner of this fight. Tank will be well protected and I don't think they are ready to let him face either Loma or Shakur this year.

That would be nice to see Loma ( a possible winner ) vs Shakur fight. it's the technical fighter vs a slippery fighter. It's not new to Loma since he had already fought Haney which I believe have a similar style like Shakur but Shakur is much shorter than Haney, so probably that will give Loma an advantage to that. We don't have to worry about the possible revenue of this fight since alhough Shakur is boring, but Loma will make it interesting.

It is not only Shakur is shorter than Haney. Do not underestimate that in reality, Devin Haney is very much bigger than expected. His move to super lightweight might be thought as something similar to moving up to a heavier weight division. However, it should be something similar to moving to a weight division with his correct height and size hehehe. Some fans speculated that Prograis might win because he belonged in the higher weight division but in the ring it was very clear that the much bigger boxer was Devin Haney. He might also find a home on welterweight with in 5 years.

I think both of them can go to 140 lbs, similar to how Haney, Teo and Garcia is right now. It's that Tank Davis doesn't want to take that risk and try to remain at 135 lbs and now he had a fight in his horizon. Same with Shakur, he hasn't accomplished anything yet in this division and yet he was avoided.

But being in Top Rank he can for sure get the winner of this fight obviously.

For Tank, he will be protected and preserved that 0 so that he has the leverage in negotiations and be always the A-side.

I very much agree on your comment on Tank Davis. This also showed in his negotiations with Ryan Garcia and his team where Tank included an agreement that Ryan will not be allowed to be over a certain weight during the fight. This is cleary very headshaking behavior of a hustler. It was more headshaking that Ryan and his team were easily tricked when Ryan signed the contract.

I think it's Ryan or GBP who wanted the fight and that's the price they have to pay. As they allowed Tank and his camp to put a lot of clause in their contract, including rehydration and how big Ryan could be in the fight itself. Reasoning is that they don't want Ryan to have the advantage.

This type of trickery and the attitude of avoiding risk is making me speculate if Tank was really injured vs. Pitbull Cruz. I reckon if someone proposes a rematch, Tank will avoid Pitbull similar to Canelo and his avoidance of Benavidez hehehee.

He didn't give Pitbull the rematch, he has has move on. But we all know that he is fighting lesser and soft opponents. Again, it could have been because they want to preserved his unbeaten record like his mentor Floyd.

If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on February 29, 2024, 10:39:23 AM
If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.

Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more.

I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner.

Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Questat on February 29, 2024, 11:09:08 AM
If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.

Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more.

I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner.
These two are champions who have a good reputation from the start. I mean, they are exciting to watch, unlike other self-proclaimed great boxers or MMA fighters, but in reality, the fans are not entertained when they fight. They are a good example of fighters who are willing to risk everything to be great; money is just next for them.

Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.
That would be fun to watch. Although I can say that Tank is good, Shakur seems to not have any weaknesses based on his last fights, so it will be tough for Tank to win here and on how to land his power against a very smart and quick boxer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on March 01, 2024, 01:46:41 PM
Loma cannot be too complacent about not getting a knockout win in Kambosos' country. Just to ensure a victory, he needs to KO him; otherwise, he might be surprised that he is very confident in the ring, thinking he'll win comfortably, but the judges saw it differently. ;D

People will never forget what they did to Pacman, and I hope it will not happen to Loma here since Kambosos has a similar style to Horn, who just loves to attack and throw a lot of punches. If judges count that and he survives the 12 rounds, unexpected things could happen. I'm pretty sure Loma's camp is well aware of that, so it's expected that their game plan is always ready to secure a clear victory.
I'm not sure if they have similar style, what I noticed though during the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao is that Jeff is a bigger fighter and so he bullish Manny that time and that is enough for the corrupt judges to see him winning. But in this fight, I don't think that George can bully Loma here. Loma is too technical and it might be a wrong strategy for him as I'm seeing that Loma will counter him with short left and right hand.
There's a difference in terms of size, maybe, but we can't deny that Kambosos's style is always aggressive. Well, if he does it to Haney, which I think is bigger than Loma, he can also do it with Loma and still survive every round. The real challenge for Loma here is how to knock out Kambosos, as he doesn't want to go to the judges' scorecards in a non-friendly venue.

Now, if I could ask, what would be next for Kambosos if he loses this fight? Would he rather retire or continue fighting against non-top boxers?
He can still fight, but I don't think that he will be given chances again to fight for the belt. But who knows, Bob Arum has this influence and his Top Rank has control of boxers in the lower weight. So maybe they can have George fight up and coming fighters for the money.
In that case, the amount of money he'll be earning will be lower compared to what he usually earn being a fighter who are close to the top. Let's just see the development after this fight in case he really would loss.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on March 01, 2024, 10:01:42 PM
If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.

Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more.

I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner.
These two are champions who have a good reputation from the start. I mean, they are exciting to watch, unlike other self-proclaimed great boxers or MMA fighters, but in reality, the fans are not entertained when they fight. They are a good example of fighters who are willing to risk everything to be great; money is just next for them.

Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.
That would be fun to watch. Although I can say that Tank is good, Shakur seems to not have any weaknesses based on his last fights, so it will be tough for Tank to win here and on how to land his power against a very smart and quick boxer.

Everyone has his weakness though, I think Shakur hasn't been tested in his career, same with Tank that's why we didn't see any flaw on their game as of yet. The best thing about this elite boxers is that when they face great boxers, they elevate their games.

So I'm expecting either we wins here and fight Shakur next, it will be a great matchup. It will be fun as we are going to witness great boxing, Shakur is defensive and his bread and boxer is his counter. But let's say he will face Loma which is hi-tech, both of them are going to stretch not just their skills, but also their boxing IQ and trying to outsmart each other.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 02, 2024, 07:28:39 AM
If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.

Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more.

I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner.

Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.

There is also Lomachenko after he gets the victory vs. George Kambosos and a rematch vs. Pitbull Cruz. After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead.

The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Maslate on March 02, 2024, 11:01:28 AM
If Tank's mission for his career is to preserve his unbeaten record then I reckon that he is only in this sport to make some money for retirement. He has the talent to create a legacy, however, his motivation will stop from doing this. There are only very few fighters who will take risks to become the greatest. Pacman in boxing and Khabib in MMA are certainly my favorite choices.

Everyone though is here for the business of making big money until they retired. Floyd has set that precedent already, there could be some who chases for legacy, but majority including Tank Davis wanted to be the next Floyd. But it's hard to blame them, they can just give us the reasons that they put their lives on the line when they fight and so they deserved to be paid more.

I do agree, Pacman's mindset is different, that's why he achieved greatness even though he has a lot of lost in his record. Khabib retired undefeated, but it's more on his mentality as his father died and he can go thru MMA without his father in his corner.

Hopefully though, we can see Tank stepping his game and fighting the champion in 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson and the winner here.

There is also Lomachenko after he gets the victory vs. George Kambosos and a rematch vs. Pitbull Cruz.
He can beat  George Kambosos for sure. But I'm unaware about the rematch vs Pitbull Cruz, because I just checked on boxrec and I haven't seen a name Pitbull Cruz being an opponent of Loma..https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771

After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead.

The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!

He can move up if he wants, so he has a chance to avenge his loss to Haney or Teo; these two boxers beat him. It would be a significant success for him if that happens. As for now, Loma's job is just to focus in training and make sure he'll give an impressive win so it will be easy to promote a fight for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on March 03, 2024, 10:35:53 AM
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I think that will be the leverage of Top Rank for Shakur to sign with them again, he will be given the chance to fight Loma which is one of his dream fights. It will be a big test for him and let's see if he can get the belt, assuming the Loma wins against George Kambosos in Australia.

Shakur already rejected Top Rank's offer to re-sign him. It was $15 million for 5 fights which is minimum of $3 million per fight. We'll see if there are other promotions that will offer bigger than TR. But I guess PBC is already out of the picture after Shakur insulted the network by saying its fighters are not earning millions which make sense because most PBC events are PPVs to pay them and most of the time only the main event fighters are getting shares.

After this, I reckon his body is big enough already to fight in super lightweight and fight Teo Lopez, Devin Haney. The promoters and the boxing organizations should also encourage this to keep this sport alive because boxing is almost dead.

The present situation in boxing is what we are given because everything is about money and not anymore the best boxers fighting vs. the best boxers. They are killing this sport!

He can move up if he wants, so he has a chance to avenge his loss to Haney or Teo; these two boxers beat him. It would be a significant success for him if that happens. As for now, Loma's job is just to focus in training and make sure he'll give an impressive win so it will be easy to promote a fight for him.

I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on March 03, 2024, 12:19:17 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on March 04, 2024, 12:53:48 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on March 04, 2024, 01:20:05 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

I think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows.

In the Haney fight, he try to make a comeback, just like in the Teo fight, but he fell short. He shouldn't be like feeling his opponents early and not let them gain confidence and him mounting a bounce back late in the rounds. So against Kambosos he shouldn't fall for that strategy again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on March 05, 2024, 12:20:12 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

I think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows.

In the Haney fight, he try to make a comeback, just like in the Teo fight, but he fell short. He shouldn't be like feeling his opponents early and not let them gain confidence and him mounting a bounce back late in the rounds. So against Kambosos he shouldn't fall for that strategy again.

Probably, that's one of the reasons, but what happened has already happened. Loma just needs to accept that and still try to be his best as he chooses to continue his career. He is not done yet as he has another opportunity to prove to the world that he can still become a champion again and continue fighting, bringing that hype again.

I just wish that if he wins this, he could have another fight against a fighter that bookies would give a 50/50 chance, not like this one where he is the heavy favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 07, 2024, 08:21:05 AM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

I think it really hurt his career when he went on a long hiatus because of the war in his country. I know that he has his duties, no question about it. But when he come back it was a different Loma. Maybe the horrors of the war might have affected him mentally, who knows.
He can't change the course of history mate, it's his duty first before boxing. I think when he come back he still have flushes of his old self. But we have to take into consideration the age as well of Loma, maybe he will not agree or some of us as well here will disagree with me, but it could have affected him as he is not getting any younger and then the quality of his opponents are getting better and better. Let's find it out against Kambosos, with the championship on the line, he could be well motivated again to become a champion and others boxers too are waiting for him for legacy fights like Shakur Stevenson, another Top Rank fighter. So if Loma will win then I'm seeing Arum matching him with Stevenson at the end of the year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 07, 2024, 09:51:28 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know.

I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on March 08, 2024, 02:48:08 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know.

I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.

Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision.

As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on March 08, 2024, 03:20:22 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know.

I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.

Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision.

As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos.

Lots of speculation at this stage about Loma's next possible fight, that's a big disrespect to Kambosos who is trying to be at the top again. Let's take it one step at a time, Shakur is great, no question about that but Loma still has something to offer, and I think if he will ever face Shakur, he has s shot of winning like what he did to Haney which ended in a controversial decision by the way.

Loma vs Kambosos, this is the fight to discuss now, after this, we can proceed on our individual speculations.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on March 12, 2024, 09:49:26 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

He will have to stay in this division though, his going to be very small at 140 lbs. And that's what more thing about Loma now, he might be slowing because of his age and that's why we've seen him lost close fight as he started slow, unlike before when he was that Hi-Tech that we know.

I'm not sure if he has duck Shakur, but I do agree that this could be a easy fight for him for the belt. Kambosos might be young but I don't think that he is heavy handed or very much bigger that Loma. All Kambosos have is that this fight is in home turf.

Yes, prime Loma should've started strong early on, quicker and faster to adopt to his opponents' styles. Now I even have doubts on Loma still wanting to become an undisputed champion. I always see Shakur as the better version of Haney and at this stage of their careers he will clearly beat Loma by decision.

As for this title fight of Loma, he can showcase what's left in him. He still needs to perform and dominate the fight because he might be in danger of losing another controversial decision in the backyard of Kambosos.

Yes, we will see what's left of Loma in this fight. If he looks old, or at least our definition of no longer in his prime, can't pull the trigger, hittable or no defense at all, or no longer the hi-tech Loma, then it could be over for him.

So George will have to take advantage of it, and really test how Loma is at this point. I'm also not hearing of Loma's trainer? Is he still guided by his father/trainer? I don't want to speculate what happen to his father though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 12, 2024, 11:57:11 PM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

If Loma will win on this fight, he may possibly announce his retirement. This will be very good for his boxing career. Not many boxers retired with a victory on their hand. So if he managed to win, better hang the gloves. Unless, he has other plans to take.
As of now, Loma is the favourite here. But I am guessing, as the date is getting nearer, the gap between them will also be near with each other. 


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on March 13, 2024, 06:57:08 AM
I think Loma is already in the biggest and easiest money first type of fights. He already ducked Shakur for the vacant WBC. I cannot blame him though as he is already old and is past his prime. Kambosos is easier and maybe bigger money too than the boring and very technical Shakur. Loma also mentioned before that 135 is his limit so 140 could be out of the picture especially at this stage of his career.
Good for him, at least he is not forcing to climb to chase and get revenge. He could stay in this division and be an undisputed champion; that way, he'll have a very impressive legacy once he decides to retire. He is already 36 years old, so he is nearing the twilight of his career, but there's more he can accomplish by staying. Great decision for the veteran fighter.

If Loma will win on this fight, he may possibly announce his retirement. This will be very good for his boxing career. Not many boxers retired with a victory on their hand. So if he managed to win, better hang the gloves. Unless, he has other plans to take.
As of now, Loma is the favourite here. But I am guessing, as the date is getting nearer, the gap between them will also be near with each other. 

Possible, but I think he might be looking for another big fight, perhaps Shakur Stevenson. Shakur's name has surface as a possible opponent on who ever wins this fight and so that will be a great fight. And for sure, there could be money in the table for Loma to reconsider his options and not to retire as he can clean up the division after he become a champion again. And we wanted to see more of his fight, I think he can still have like a good 2-3 fights before he decided to hang up his gloves for good. For Kambosos part, if he wins then he can regain his old belt and again, will go after Shakur Stevenson as well because that is the fight that make sense.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 13, 2024, 07:04:00 AM
But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on March 14, 2024, 12:46:06 PM
But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Maslate on March 14, 2024, 01:12:51 PM
But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.
Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

Of course, and I'm sure this challenge is not tough compared to his upcoming fight if he wins here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kelvinid on March 14, 2024, 01:53:10 PM
Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.


Everyone has their own opinion but you maybe correct that Mayweather and Pacman are on a different level as they are a hall of famer. We can make a survey now and ask people who are the top 10 boxers, I'm pretty sure Mayweather and Pacman names are always in the list. However, Loma is still active, he can still improve his achievements and make his own legacy in boxing. Of course, some are saying that he is not anymore on his prime, so Loma has to proved in his fight by beating Kambosos impressively and be a champ once again.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on March 14, 2024, 08:58:57 PM
Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.


Everyone has their own opinion but you maybe correct that Mayweather and Pacman are on a different level as they are a hall of famer. We can make a survey now and ask people who are the top 10 boxers, I'm pretty sure Mayweather and Pacman names are always in the list. However, Loma is still active, he can still improve his achievements and make his own legacy in boxing. Of course, some are saying that he is not anymore on his prime, so Loma has to proved in his fight by beating Kambosos impressively and be a champ once again.

He already had some solid legacy in boxing, and I think he will be in the HOF in the future. And he is still carving out his own legacy. I might say that Loma could be slowing down, but still though elite boxers has still one good fight in their bag and I think this could be for Loma. He will become a world champion again if he defeats Kambosos so that will be enough motivation to at least pursue his dreams. And for the record, he is the most successful amateur boxer in history, and won championship belt from featherweight, super-featherweight, and lightweight, and trying to regain his belt again at 135 lbs.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: serjent05 on March 14, 2024, 10:00:24 PM

After seeing Loma's performance against Haney, who had a considerable size and height advantage, I don't see Kambosos as being too much of an obstacle for him. George Kambosos last fight was in July of last year in which he won an unimpressive majority decision against fringe contender Maxi Hughes. Kambosos was supposed to fight Loma already but, due to the conflict in Ukraine, he faced Haney instead and lost his belts in the first defense after defeating Teofimo Lopez.

I highly agree with your statement.  I saw how finesse Lomachenco moves is compared to the rough movement of Kambosos.  I think there is a huge difference between the technical skill of these two boxers having Lomachenco on the advantage.

I think there is a slim chance for this fight to end in a knockout so boxing fans can enjoy the whole boxing round watching the two boxers' performance.  I think that this fight will end in a unanimous decision in favor of Lomachenco.


Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.


Sometimes we wish great boxers lived in the same era so that we can see more clearly who is greater among them.  But that is just the thing goes, all we can do is to speculate on who is better when great boxers appear in different eras.

Aside from that, the boxing career does not mold by the boxer's alone, their promoter and manager plays a huge part on how they can make their boxer great by pressing fights that will make their boxer looks impressive and avoiding fights that can make their boxer lose.

We can see it on how Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao scheduled their next opponent or create fight scenario to make them at an advantage while making them look as underdog.  In Manny Pacquiao's career, he fights in a catchweight where he makes himself looks underdog while having an advantage since their bigger opponent is severely dehydrated while meeting the qualifying weight, while Mayweather cherry picks his opponent wisely.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on March 14, 2024, 10:11:38 PM
But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.
Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

Of course, and I'm sure this challenge is not tough compared to his upcoming fight if he wins here.

It's because Loma started late in his career, he was like 26 years old when he had his first fight. It was due to him staying in the amateurs for too long, however, he was a very decorated amateur boxer, winning golds at at the 2008 and 2012 Summer Games at featherweight and lightweight.

Fight for the belt against Oscar Salido in this second fight, but Salido was a dirty fighter and fouled Loma several times and experienced his first defeat as a pro-fighter. Been FOTY twice as well.

But then again, lost to Teo and then to Haney, would have been cemented his legacy even further if he had beaten this two young fighters. But he still has a chance against George Kambosos, might be a good gauge for us boxing fans if Loma still have it even at his age.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Jating on April 05, 2024, 01:31:07 PM
Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Quote
Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on April 05, 2024, 01:50:40 PM
Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Quote
Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

I have no doubt that he will win here as his opponent seemed declining as well. It's the first step of the test, once he win and he gets another shot with a champion and win, then that's the time to conclude that he still has not pass his prime. 36 years is still not old in boxing, in fact Mayweather retired when he was already 41 but was still undefeated.

Loma might loss to Haney, but a boxer who had that kind of fight against a very quick Haney is already considered a great boxer, and besides, the fight ended up as a controversial fight which some believe he wins, so the respect is still there.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 05, 2024, 08:05:24 PM
Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Quote
Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

I have no doubt that he will win here as his opponent seemed declining as well. It's the first step of the test, once he win and he gets another shot with a champion and win, then that's the time to conclude that he still has not pass his prime. 36 years is still not old in boxing, in fact Mayweather retired when he was already 41 but was still undefeated.

Loma might loss to Haney, but a boxer who had that kind of fight against a very quick Haney is already considered a great boxer, and besides, the fight ended up as a controversial fight which some believe he wins, so the respect is still there.
It's more on the mindset of Loma. In his last fight which he unfortunately lost to Haney, we've seen that he can still fight even at his age. And there are no wear and tear on Loma as he was late when he join the pro ranks but was privilege to be given a chance to fight for the belt early in his career. And he is a huge favorite in this fight, so yeah, he might win here. I also read some twitter post that Loma is still the best 135 lbs, his ranking is even higher than Tank or even Shakur, although there could be arguments in that. But we know that Tank is only a paper champion, doesn't want to risk his 0, and then Shakur a boring fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on May 08, 2024, 12:48:04 PM
Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,

https://img.youtube.com/vi/ga3sve7AiQQ/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga3sve7AiQQ)

Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 08, 2024, 01:16:00 PM
Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

The Haney-Garcia and the Canelo-Munguia were in the spotlight the whole month of April that we forget this fight when, in actuality, this has the making of a great fight as both fighters are in dire need of a win.

Loma, if he loses here, he will be contemplating retiring, and if Kambosos loses, he will go to the bottom, and it is hard to climb to the top, so it's a must-win for both fighters.

So far, this is the result of the community vote, Loma is the overwhelming favourite many still believe that Loma can recapture his old glory, if we base it on each fighter's performance against Haney, whom they both fought, Loma shows a much better performance

Lomachenko by KO   - 11 (57.9%)
Lomachenko by decision   - 8 (42.1%)
Kambosos by KO   - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 19


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on May 08, 2024, 02:02:24 PM
Loma, if he loses here, he will be contemplating retiring, and if Kambosos loses, he will go to the bottom, and it is hard to climb to the top, so it's a must-win for both fighters.

he can't lose against a fighter who are not good in making adjustment in the ring. Loma is called a technical fighter because he is good in making adjustments, he doesn't spend his energy a lot, he just make sure that he use it at the right timing to beat his opponent. Kambosos  career was already declining, but he sees this as an opportunity to get back on top, however, it's also a big risk for him as a loss means no more big fights coming for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on May 08, 2024, 02:34:44 PM
Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

The Haney-Garcia and the Canelo-Munguia were in the spotlight the whole month of April that we forget this fight when, in actuality, this has the making of a great fight as both fighters are in dire need of a win.

Right, we are sandwich by this two biggest fight for the month of May, even the Inoue vs Nery was almost put at the back side because of this two fights.

Nevertheless, here we are and majority thinks that Loma will win either by KO or by decision and I agree to most of the voters. If not for his narrow lost against Haney, Loma could not be fighting Haney's left over here.

But still a win is a win if he will ever get over Kambosos and then maybe some of the biggest name at 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis next for Loma. He needs this big fight as we all know that he is not getting any younger, and might be contemplating as well to retire in the next year or two.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: yazher on May 08, 2024, 03:35:29 PM
Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,
To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,


I still can't move on about the fight last weekend and now we still have more upcoming and also an exciting fight between a technical fighter and a good challenger. I wonder how Kambosos will adjust to make it difficult for Loma to beat him since he is the underdog in this fight whether he likes it or not. he should come up with some surprising technique to beat Loma or else he will just be simply defeated like the Loma's past opponents. I can't wait to watch for another action, we want some real fights such as this one and also we have more upcoming as well in the next months.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on May 09, 2024, 07:06:19 AM
Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,
To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,


I still can't move on about the fight last weekend and now we still have more upcoming and also an exciting fight between a technical fighter and a good challenger. I wonder how Kambosos will adjust to make it difficult for Loma to beat him since he is the underdog in this fight whether he likes it or not. he should come up with some surprising technique to beat Loma or else he will just be simply defeated like the Loma's past opponents. I can't wait to watch for another action, we want some real fights such as this one and also we have more upcoming as well in the next months.

Kambosos will be more motivated in this fight because it will be done in Australia, in front of the thousand fans that will likely watch the fight. It's a make or break for him, you know, he is not a champion anymore, his career is going downhill after two losses experienced from Haney, so it's time for him to make his career come alive, and that will only happen if he beats a very tough opponent like Loma.

Few days from now, we are gonna witness a very exciting fight, his sure not boring because Kambosos is an aggressive fighter while Loma doesn't back down either.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 09, 2024, 01:30:24 PM


Few days from now, we are gonna witness a very exciting fight, his sure not boring because Kambosos is an aggressive fighter while Loma doesn't back down either.


Yes, indeed, and those living in the Philippines and Ukraine can watch the fight live through TOP Rank Facebook and YouTube page; if you have a VPN, you can also watch the fight live.

I wonder why only on Ukraine and The Philippines when the fight is anticipated by other countries as well like the United States.

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#LomaKambosos will stream LIVE on our YouTube & Facebook pages. Exclusively in Ukraine and the Philippines!

https://www.facebook.com/trboxing/




Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on May 09, 2024, 01:36:11 PM
^^ Good question, perhaps they decided just one country in Asia to be included and they know that the Philippines has a lot of good boxing fans. And obviously Ukraine for Loma's hometown. And we are lucky that we will be able to watch it. And I think the sentimental favorite here is still Loma, as we think that he was robbed on the Haney fight and seeing him cry after losing, we really felt that he badly needed that win as it is his big dream to become a champion again. Luckily, he has a good chance at redemption against Kambosos and the odds favor him to win by a huge margin.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Kemarit on May 09, 2024, 10:36:20 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on May 10, 2024, 05:19:20 AM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

I do agree, Loma got the experience and talent to beat Kambosos. If only Loma was younger, i would bet on him to knockout his opponent but at this stage of his career, knockout is a slim possibility though he still got some sting on his punch but we know also that Kambosos is a tough nut to crack that even the hard hitting Teo Lopez failed to knockout him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: aioc on May 10, 2024, 10:10:07 AM
There is another motivation for Lomachenko to win this fight, and this is he will have a chance to become an undisputed champion
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Vasiliy Lomachenko’s dream of becoming undisputed champion could be close to reality if he beats George Kambosos Jr. for the IBF lightweight title this Sunday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-face-shakur-stevenson-with-win-over-george-kambosos--183407

Bob Arum promised to give him a shot against Shakur Stevenson if he disposed of Kambosos, but this is not going to be easy because, as we all know, Kambosos also badly need this win, and the fight is going to be held in Australia and Lomachenko is not getting any younger, but he still has a chance to reach his dream to become an undisputed champion at 36.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on May 10, 2024, 12:31:33 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

That's how boxers try to square with their opponents, a stare down and look as someone's soul and see if they can intimidated each other just like in this case, but it seems that no one is trying to back down from all of it and with the organizers allowing it, and at least there are no pushing whatsoever and  they remain calm. Obviously as what the odds say, Loma is a huge favorite, because of his experience and yes the tools that he has, foot work and this technics he used to beat his opponent. And if ever he wins then he is again a world champion and still has a good future in fighting Tank Davis. That's the fight that we wanted to see in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Hypnosis00 on May 10, 2024, 12:54:33 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

That's how boxers try to square with their opponents, a stare down and look as someone's soul and see if they can intimidated each other just like in this case, but it seems that no one is trying to back down from all of it and with the organizers allowing it, and at least there are no pushing whatsoever and  they remain calm. Obviously as what the odds say, Loma is a huge favorite, because of his experience and yes the tools that he has, foot work and this technics he used to beat his opponent. And if ever he wins then he is again a world champion and still has a good future in fighting Tank Davis. That's the fight that we wanted to see in the future.

I liked that both fighters stay calm, they are just doing a very simple job in this face off since hyping the fight is not anymore necesarry since we all know their will be blood comes the fight night. Kambosos looks confident, I like that from him as he will for sure be very aggressive, however, I believe that Loma will be victorious in the end because he had some skills being a technical fighter while Kambosos heavily relies on his aggressiveness which is not effective against a fighter like Loma.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 10, 2024, 01:45:39 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

That's how boxers try to square with their opponents, a stare down and look as someone's soul and see if they can intimidated each other just like in this case, but it seems that no one is trying to back down from all of it and with the organizers allowing it, and at least there are no pushing whatsoever and  they remain calm. Obviously as what the odds say, Loma is a huge favorite, because of his experience and yes the tools that he has, foot work and this technics he used to beat his opponent. And if ever he wins then he is again a world champion and still has a good future in fighting Tank Davis. That's the fight that we wanted to see in the future.
This is also my favourite part, the face-off after the weigh-in because their next meeting is in the ring; they are going to size up each other and try to get in each other heads so far, there are no thrash talks between the two, but we can easily tell that they are serious about beating each other because so much at stake here.

I love watching this kind of fight where both fighters are not fighting for the title but are also fighting for survival.
Kambosos is coming from two losses, and another one will shut him out of the limelight in international boxing,
Lomachencko is also coming from a heartbreaking loss, and a loss will get him thinking about retirement.

I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 10, 2024, 01:53:54 PM
I love watching this kind of fight where both fighters are not fighting for the title but are also fighting for survival.
Kambosos is coming from two losses, and another one will shut him out of the limelight in international boxing,
Lomachencko is also coming from a heartbreaking loss, and a loss will get him thinking about retirement.
Kambosos was coming from a clear loss but Loma's status was quite different as some people think he really won the fight. So it's time for him to prove again tha the is still here and could still be a champion. Against kambosos, he'll go in an easier path as Kambosos only knows one thing, to attack and bully his opponent, but against Loma, I doubt it will work.

I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 10, 2024, 02:00:13 PM
I love watching this kind of fight where both fighters are not fighting for the title but are also fighting for survival.
Kambosos is coming from two losses, and another one will shut him out of the limelight in international boxing,
Lomachencko is also coming from a heartbreaking loss, and a loss will get him thinking about retirement.
Kambosos was coming from a clear loss but Loma's status was quite different as some people think he really won the fight. So it's time for him to prove again tha the is still here and could still be a champion. Against kambosos, he'll go in an easier path as Kambosos only knows one thing, to attack and bully his opponent, but against Loma, I doubt it will work.

I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.
Same here, I doubt that the score card will end in a draw unless the judges somewhat is biased on Kambosos as this fight is made in Australia. And it's going to be hurtful again for Loma, specially on how he lost his fight to Haney as clearly he did enough in the second half of the fight to win. Hopefully, there's no home cook decision, judges should be fair on how they are going to score in this fight. For the stare down, yes, we really love to see two boxers facing and then no one want to be first one to blink as this is a sign of weakness as other says. So they stay as long as they can and trying to sizing up their opponents.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 10, 2024, 02:56:31 PM
I love watching this kind of fight where both fighters are not fighting for the title but are also fighting for survival.
Kambosos is coming from two losses, and another one will shut him out of the limelight in international boxing,
Lomachencko is also coming from a heartbreaking loss, and a loss will get him thinking about retirement.
Kambosos was coming from a clear loss but Loma's status was quite different as some people think he really won the fight. So it's time for him to prove again tha the is still here and could still be a champion. Against kambosos, he'll go in an easier path as Kambosos only knows one thing, to attack and bully his opponent, but against Loma, I doubt it will work.

I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.
Same here, I doubt that the score card will end in a draw unless the judges somewhat is biased on Kambosos as this fight is made in Australia. And it's going to be hurtful again for Loma, specially on how he lost his fight to Haney as clearly he did enough in the second half of the fight to win. Hopefully, there's no home cook decision, judges should be fair on how they are going to score in this fight. For the stare down, yes, we really love to see two boxers facing and then no one want to be first one to blink as this is a sign of weakness as other says. So they stay as long as they can and trying to sizing up their opponents.

I believe if they'll cook this, it will not be a draw but a win by Kambosos. People never forget, once a controversial decision is made, it will again flashback the result of the Pacman vs Horn in the past which the judges even scored a unanimous decision win in favor of Horn, they didn't even make it a split decision so it will not be too obvious. What I'm saying is, if they really want to cheat, they can because they already have that reputation base on the history.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on May 11, 2024, 06:23:05 AM
I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.

Same here, i don't this fight will end up in a draw and for me Loma will win with a wide margin decision. Lomachenko is better that Haney who punished Kambosos in two fights, that argument is enough to convince me that this fight is for Loma to win and Bob Arum is already preparing for his next fight against Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on May 11, 2024, 06:29:25 AM
I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.

Same here, i don't this fight will end up in a draw and for me Loma will win with a wide margin decision. Lomachenko is better that Haney who punished Kambosos in two fights, that argument is enough to convince me that this fight is for Loma to win and Bob Arum is already preparing for his next fight against Shakur.

It could be, but not buying though the triangle theory in boxing. But in any case, if Loma is superior in terms of boxing skills, no doubt that he will win by a wide decision. But we forget that George Kambosos as well scored a upset win against Teo Lopez.

So anything is still up in the open for George, although a huge underdog, fighting at home again, it might be a different mindset for him and as we have said, this is a do or die match or a must win for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 11, 2024, 06:34:01 AM
Before we forget this fight is in Australia, and so here is the weigh-in and final face-off,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIAF1TD3GU

Lol, at the announcer saying that they are going to beat their previous record of 3 minutes ++ in their last kick off conference and face-off. Let's see what kind of energy George can bring with his hometown behind him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: cabron on May 11, 2024, 06:54:48 AM
Before we forget this fight is in Australia, and so here is the weigh-in and final face-off,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIAF1TD3GU

Lol, at the announcer saying that they are going to beat their previous record of 3 minutes ++ in their last kick off conference and face-off. Let's see what kind of energy George can bring with his hometown behind him.

There's the advantage of Georgy besides him being the bigger guy in this fight, this is like securing the win once in the hometown. George will dominate the fight and will try to catch Loma while they are in the middle of the heat.  It just needs a little bit of risk but if Loma catches him first in an unexpected KO, it'd be a big upset that people want to see.

But Loma is just not what he was already. Even in his fight with Commey who was obviously about to fall to the ground, he wasn't able to KO Commey. Loma aged a lot already.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 11, 2024, 12:06:54 PM
I know this fight is important, so I will not rule out a draw or a rematch if the fight is too close because both fighters have the same style of fighting, and we all know style makes a fight.
I don't see it ending in a Draw, there should be a winner but if in case it will end in a close match, then rematch should be sign.

Same here, i don't this fight will end up in a draw and for me Loma will win with a wide margin decision. Lomachenko is better that Haney who punished Kambosos in two fights, that argument is enough to convince me that this fight is for Loma to win and Bob Arum is already preparing for his next fight against Shakur.

It could be, but not buying though the triangle theory in boxing. But in any case, if Loma is superior in terms of boxing skills, no doubt that he will win by a wide decision. But we forget that George Kambosos as well scored a upset win against Teo Lopez.

So anything is still up in the open for George, although a huge underdog, fighting at home again, it might be a different mindset for him and as we have said, this is a do or die match or a must win for him.

He should have that kind of mindset, "do or die" for his carreer as a loss here means a big loss for his future. Despite of the successive losses, he is still lucky to have this big fight and all he has to do is to impress the fans again so he will go back to the top.

Of course, anything could happen as we will never forget that Kambosos is the one who beat the fighter that beat Loma.

This is a great fight for sure, but Loma is gonna win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: robelneo on May 11, 2024, 02:22:41 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w


That was intense, but this was more intense, both guys could do this the whole day,
George Kambosos and Vasyl Lomachenko Weigh-in (https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1554277705421371)
No one wants to blink, as if both fighters have a bet on who will blink first I have never seen an intense face-off like this; these two buys are no talks, but I'm sure there will be a lot of actions, it good to know that it will stream free here in my location, the stakes are too high for both fighters and they know it so we expect a very good fight and it all started with this stare down  :D :D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on May 11, 2024, 02:45:04 PM
Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w


That was intense, but this was more intense, both guys could do this the whole day,
George Kambosos and Vasyl Lomachenko Weigh-in (https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1554277705421371)
No one wants to blink, as if both fighters have a bet on who will blink first I have never seen an intense face-off like this; these two buys are no talks, but I'm sure there will be a lot of actions, it good to know that it will stream free here in my location, the stakes are too high for both fighters and they know it so we expect a very good fight and it all started with this stare down  :D :D

Yes, it's more intense than the first one, and I think they started this whole trend and set the bar high for a face-off hehehe. So I would imagine Fury vs Usyk during their stare-down and for sure they want to break the record of Loma and Kambosos.

There's also another fight, I forgot, it was all over Twitter having also a long and very intense stare-down.

But the real thing is what we all wanted to see, a great fight between this two and then Loma emerging in a decision win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on May 12, 2024, 02:43:00 AM
The undercards is already on and in the next few hours the main event will be next.

For those who wants to watch fight live for free, see below youtube link and also note that this coverage will only be available for Philippine and Ukraine viewers.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDKMx_BA5n8


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 12, 2024, 05:58:07 AM
Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 12, 2024, 06:34:57 AM
Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 12, 2024, 10:37:55 AM
Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.



It's the Loma that we used to know fast and accurately and had a very good movement in the ring, the timing is so perfect he can get his punch in without getting hit when going out, I just knew in the first three rounds that this is Loma's fight and its a matter of time before he totally dominate the fight.

Now everyone wants Loma, Shakur, and Tank want to have a piece of Loma now, and at 36 years old and still with that performance, he can still keep up with young generations of fighters.

And with Kamboso's loss, he will need to think if he wants to continue fighting, he will end up as a gatekeeper for the champions. If he will continue, it's now three in a row for Loma, and this does not look good for his reputation as a boxer.

I think Kambosos will continue to fight, but only in Australia, and if there's no big offer, he will eventually retire this year.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 12, 2024, 11:39:54 AM
Despite Kambosos’ best efforts, Lomachenko was just too fast and accurate, and we ended up seeing a one sided fight that most people were expecting. Loma became the first to defeat Kambosos by TKO. His skills are just on another level.

With this win I would say Loma is the clear #1 lightweight in the world. Tank and Shakur might be undefeated, but that is more of a result of careful matchmaking rather than an indication of their greatness. At his age, I’m not sure Loma will achieve his dream of being undisputed. There is too much politics and ducking for it to be realistic, although, it will still be great to see Loma unify titles against any of the other champions.

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.



It's the Loma that we used to know fast and accurately and had a very good movement in the ring, the timing is so perfect he can get his punch in without getting hit when going out, I just knew in the first three rounds that this is Loma's fight and its a matter of time before he totally dominate the fight.

Now everyone wants Loma, Shakur, and Tank want to have a piece of Loma now, and at 36 years old and still with that performance, he can still keep up with young generations of fighters.
Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

And with Kamboso's loss, he will need to think if he wants to continue fighting, he will end up as a gatekeeper for the champions. If he will continue, it's now three in a row for Loma, and this does not look good for his reputation as a boxer.

I think Kambosos will continue to fight, but only in Australia, and if there's no big offer, he will eventually retire this year.

We've talk about this before the fight that he needs to win this fight of his career is over. Not totally over though, but being a ex-champion and just fighting a low rank boxer, there's no more excitement on that, unless he'll stay to make consistent money.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: aioc on May 12, 2024, 12:56:20 PM

That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.


Lomachenko still possesses that matrix-like move that we come to know I cannot keep up with my eyes with his movement, very fast and quick Kambosos cannot keep up; he tries everything but to no avail until Loma finds an opening in the 11th round it was a masterful performance.

Nothing has changed in Loma. A healthy Loma can beat anybody; it's better for Loma to avenge his losses against Haney, Let's see what's stored for Loma after this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 12, 2024, 03:00:17 PM
Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

I think that is a bad style matchup for Tank. The only reason Loma hasn’t been more dominant at lightweight, like he was in lower divisions, is because he is always at a size disadvantage. With Loma being taller than Tank, he will be able to use his angles and distance more effectively. Tank will get easily outboxed, his only chance is to land a big knockout punch. I only wish Tank had this desire to fight Loma when Loma was younger, but he blatantly ducked him and his promoter Floyd as well as Leonard Ellerbe came up with all kinds of stupid excuses why they wouldn’t make the fight.

If Tank is actually serious about wanting this fight, it can easily be made with one phone call by Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh. We will see if Al Haymon will actually allow it or if we’ll be seeing Tank against another in-house cherry pick after he beats Frank Martin.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: mu_enrico on May 12, 2024, 04:46:33 PM
It feels good man when Loma wins as he deserves it! He still has his mojo despite being 36 years old, I wonder if he still wants to compete again after this...

Quote
“If you are talking about ages in boxing, and weight classes, I agree…..I’m [an] old man,” Lomachenko said. “But heavyweight? At 36 a lot of heavyweights can start at this age. But my career is almost done, of course. How many years it’s going to be, one, two, three, that’s it. But I still think I have a little bit of power. It’s a hard question [when will I retire exactly]. At this stage, every fight is hard. It’s hard to recover after fights. I don’t know what will happen with my body after this fight and that’s why I can’t give you an answer to this question [of when I will retire].”
Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/lomachenko-vs-kambosos-loma-says-his-career-is-almost-done-its-hard-to-recover-after-fights/277806

Not sure if I want him to fight Tank or Shakur, but he definitely wants to challenge another big fish if he still does not retire.

Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?
Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: serjent05 on May 12, 2024, 10:25:47 PM
Congrats to the winners (bettors), anyone able to predict like a KO/TKO in round 10-12?
Most people bet on winning by decision I guess, I didn't foresee KO/TKO as well, lol.

I also thought that the fight would end via decision but was surprised when Kambosos fell on his knee after a body shot.  It was a great fight and it is great to see Loma's tactical moves dominating the fight.  It is great to see him holding a title again.


That was the clear definition of what happened, "Loma is fast and accurate".. Kambasos still have the same style, he likes to slug but he is not accurate unlike Loma, so he can't hurt Loma. Great things happen wen the boxer takes it slow, and Loma just did that as he slowly destroyed Kambosos until the latter's body give up with a solid punch in the body.


Lomachenko still possesses that matrix-like move that we come to know I cannot keep up with my eyes with his movement, very fast and quick Kambosos cannot keep up; he tries everything but to no avail until Loma finds an opening in the 11th round it was a masterful performance.

Loma is too much for Kambosos, not a single thought that Kambosos will win against Loma if the fight ends up in a decision, I only think of Kambosos winning if he landed a lucky punch that will render Loma unable to continue but it happens the other way around.



Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 13, 2024, 01:25:58 AM
@serjent05. If the body punches of Kambosos during rounds 1 to 5 became effective against Lomachenko, I reckon this might have given him a chance. However, beginning on the 6th round, Lomachenko began to be more aggressive and I was very shocked that he was continuing this until the technical knockout on the 11th round.

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Viscore on May 13, 2024, 04:09:46 AM
Loma seemed to be having problem with quick fighters as he loss to Haney, so if I would choose whom he'll fight next, I'd choose Davis as the latter loves to engage and even if Loma is older than him, I think I would bet on him if he's the underdog.

I think that is a bad style matchup for Tank. The only reason Loma hasn’t been more dominant at lightweight, like he was in lower divisions, is because he is always at a size disadvantage. With Loma being taller than Tank, he will be able to use his angles and distance more effectively. Tank will get easily outboxed, his only chance is to land a big knockout punch. I only wish Tank had this desire to fight Loma when Loma was younger, but he blatantly ducked him and his promoter Floyd as well as Leonard Ellerbe came up with all kinds of stupid excuses why they wouldn’t make the fight.

If Tank is actually serious about wanting this fight, it can easily be made with one phone call by Bob Arum and Turki Alalshikh. We will see if Al Haymon will actually allow it or if we’ll be seeing Tank against another in-house cherry pick after he beats Frank Martin.

That's what I want to see so Loma's name will be at the conversation again because he slowly losses his popularity after he got defeated by Lopez, but now that he is the champion again, he can go with anyone as Loma doesn't his opponent, ducking opponent is not his game. Maybe Tank or probably a rematch with Lopez would be fine, both would produce a firepower fight and the fans would love it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bisdak40 on May 13, 2024, 07:28:13 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Slow death on May 13, 2024, 10:03:15 AM
Vasiliy Lomachenko vs George Kambosos

I didn't watch this fight live, but I was able to watch a replay of the fight, and it's better to watch a replay of a fight because the person knows that they won the fight, so when the person is watching the replay of the fight they are just trying to understand why the fighter x won, the surprise factor would be lost. But anyway, from what I could see from the replay of the fight, Vasiliy Lomachenko seemed to me to be in control of the rhythm of the fight from the beginning, he was in an attacking position most of the time, but George Kambosos Jr. was also fighting well in the first few rounds, I was in a defensive position waiting for Vasiliy Lomachenko to attack and then make a quick counter attack, but as time went by, Vasiliy Lomachenko was throwing more punches at George Kambosos Jr., it was visible on George Kambosos' face Jr. that Vasiliy Lomachenko's punches were causing him damage and the longer the fight went on, the more George Kambosos Jr.'s situation became bad



https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/05/13/1GGxo.png

'This guy is one of the best of all time,' Kambosos said after the bout.

'We tried our best, but he's a good champion. He deserves that belt. I gave it my all.

'I'm still alive, I'm still standing. I ain't dead.'


source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-13408733/Vasily-Lomachenko-defeats-Australian-George-Kambosos-world-title-showdown-deserves-belt.html

knowing how to recognize defeat and congratulate the opponent, is something that all athletes should do, but currently few athletes do this because of marketing, after they lose fights they show more radical attitudes towards the opponent to generate a lot of attention in the media and brand themselves. a revenge.

Congratulations Vasiliy Lomachenko


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on May 13, 2024, 01:33:11 PM
Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 14, 2024, 03:50:28 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on May 14, 2024, 04:52:18 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on May 14, 2024, 10:11:38 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

Yes, will be hard for time to unify not only because of his age but boxing politics as well. And his boss might have a hard time negotiating against Shakur as he is no longer with Top Rank or left Bob Arum already. And then against Tank Davis, we might want to be the A-side against Loma.

At least Loma finally gets a 135 lbs, hard to see him crying when he lost against Haney.

But this time, he won and can finally have that tears of joy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: TravelMug on May 14, 2024, 11:01:33 AM
@serjent05. If the body punches of Kambosos during rounds 1 to 5 became effective against Lomachenko, I reckon this might have given him a chance. However, beginning on the 6th round, Lomachenko began to be more aggressive and I was very shocked that he was continuing this until the technical knockout on the 11th round.

What's shocking is that Loma is a slow starter, and maybe he really learn from that in his lost against Haney or even in his fight against Teo Lopez. So he become aggressive since round 1 and doesn't want to comeback in the last 6 rounds and maybe he will not get the benefit of the score card from the judges as this is Kambosos territory.

Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Natalim on May 14, 2024, 12:29:48 PM
Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.

Great if that will happen. Loma is good against a boxer that is shorter than him, so I guess he'll give a good fight either of these two undefeated champions. Both are great match for Loma, but he can take it one boxer at at time, whoever goes first, if Loma win he can go with the 2nd champion. Just imagine if that would happen, Loma would continue to soar and will be recognize in the top pound for pound again as he might be moving up if there's no more deserving challenger in this division.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on May 14, 2024, 02:25:57 PM
Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.

Yes, and with this performance, Loma is still at top of his game, although there is question about his age, but if we will judge his performance in this fight, still elite in my opinion and Kambosos doesn't have any to answer's Loma aggressive very early.

And he really soften Kambosos early, make him tender specially in the body and when he hits it perfectly, it's hard to recover from that shot.

Loma against Shakur or Tank will be great at 135 lbs, but we will see, Arum says that they might go with Davis next.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 15, 2024, 01:52:45 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.

I am not quite certain. It might be 7-5 that can go to Loma or Haney. Similar to what I have mentioned in my reply that you have quoted, it appears that it might be a split decision with the victory that can also go to Lomachenko.

@Baofeng. Can you share an article or a news update? It was mentioned by @bisdak40 that Bob Arum said it will be Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on May 15, 2024, 03:41:47 AM
Tank and Shakur is targeting Loma, but we will see, both of them have fights in the next coming months and hopefully if they win, we will hear them calling out Loma for their next fight and hopefully it can be set up by Top Rank as time is running out for Loma.

Great if that will happen. Loma is good against a boxer that is shorter than him, so I guess he'll give a good fight either of these two undefeated champions. Both are great match for Loma, but he can take it one boxer at at time, whoever goes first, if Loma win he can go with the 2nd champion. Just imagine if that would happen, Loma would continue to soar and will be recognize in the top pound for pound again as he might be moving up if there's no more deserving challenger in this division.

Yes, it will be a great fight, I mean it's the youth vs the experience of Loma not just in professional fights but we all know that he has 100+ fights as amateur. And then he might not have seen the power of Tank before or the defensive genius of Shakur and we will see how Loma will adjust to this kind of boxers.

So it's really up to Top Rank and Bob Arum if he is that serious to have Loma fight either of the two and win another belt of Loma. Otherwise, it could be that Loma will have to fight his mandatory as per governing body.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on May 15, 2024, 03:47:42 AM
Who will be next for him? I reckon this should be versus Shakur for the IBF, WBC championships and the vacant WBO championship. The winner of this will fight the scammer Tank Davis hehehe.

Shakur is what Bob Arum did promise Loma if he win so we might see this matchup at the end of this year if Loma won't consider retiring from boxing as he floats that idea because he said that he is now old for boxing. Against the young Shakur, Loma will be having a hard time as the former is a counter puncher and also technical but lack the experience, the biggest disadvantage of Shakur.

At this stage of his career, i don't think that Loma could unify all the four belts because he is running out of time.

However, Lomachenko should also not be underestimated. I have watched Loma vs. Haney again and it appears like the correct decision for this fight might be a split decision that can go to either to Haney or Loma's victory. I might be biased after Haney's loss to King Ry and King Ry's exposure that Haney might only be an overestimated boxer, however, watch Loma and Haney again and correct me if I am wrong.

The best way to assess the fight is to score while watching it mate. But if you did, what's your score on that fight? It's hard to say that it is correct to call it a split decision because if you had it very close in your scorecard then it could be a close unanimous, split, majority in the judges cards. Two judges had it 7-5 while the other had it surprisingly 8-4.

I stopped watching the second half and did not watch the replay. Upon seeing the per round punch stats, it's a draw for me. Anyways, both are now in different divisions and Loma might retire anytime while Haney is still young.

I am not quite certain. It might be 7-5 that can go to Loma or Haney. Similar to what I have mentioned in my reply that you have quoted, it appears that it might be a split decision with the victory that can also go to Lomachenko.

@Baofeng. Can you share an article or a news update? It was mentioned by @bisdak40 that Bob Arum said it will be Shakur.

Here is Bob Arum as who is the potential next fight for Loma.

https://img.youtube.com/vi/dAHMFLtWikg/0.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAHMFLtWikg)

So Bob Arum mentions two name "potentially" to be the next fight and we all know who it is, Tank Davis and Shakur Stevenson. Really boils down as what will be the best option for Loma, money wise here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: inthelongrun on May 15, 2024, 03:54:19 AM
Loma at his current age is still a little faster than Haney. The issue with Loma is he is a slow starter because he wants to measure and observe his opponents before trying to execute his plans and strategies. Haney hugs a lot while Loma isn't which is why Kambosos has nowhere to go but to get stopped in the late rounds after being broken down methodically.

As for what's next. Kambosos might continue to fight but after wear and tear and blue prints on how to beat him, he might not become a champion again. I like Loma to retire. He is still good but obviously not in his prime anymore and I hate him getting exploited by the younger fighters.

Yes, and with this performance, Loma is still at top of his game, although there is question about his age, but if we will judge his performance in this fight, still elite in my opinion and Kambosos doesn't have any to answer's Loma aggressive very early.

And he really soften Kambosos early, make him tender specially in the body and when he hits it perfectly, it's hard to recover from that shot.

Loma against Shakur or Tank will be great at 135 lbs, but we will see, Arum says that they might go with Davis next.

Based on that fight, Loma can still give a good fight against the other champions. I also read something that Bob hinted of fighting Tank although I forgot the source and it could be unreliable. Surely, the easiest fight to make is against Navarette, in case the former 3 division wins the vacant WBO belt this weekend. Shakur only has 1 fight remaining at Top Rank and I doubt Bob offers him Loma unless he signs a new deal. The coward Tank Davis finally showed interest against this 36-year old version of Loma. It could be a bluff but if not, PBC has to give Bob something significant because Loma at this stage is most likely the underdog.

Anyways, Loma said he will decide on what's next for his career after taking a rest and feeling his body. Moneywise, it's Tank or Navarette for Loma but of course Bob and ESPN have their rights as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 16, 2024, 05:10:51 AM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Baofeng on May 16, 2024, 05:21:20 AM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Japinat on May 16, 2024, 06:08:02 AM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

Either one of these two would be good to see, after all, both fighters are champion and still hasn't experience a loss yet. Whatever is easy for Loma, he should go for that fight, and since he is a proven boxer already, he is not there to cherry pick opponents but to fight the best. There's still plenty of time, I hope that will happen before the year will end and if Loma wins, he could rest and continue next year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Dave1 on May 16, 2024, 11:46:37 AM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

Either one of these two would be good to see, after all, both fighters are champion and still hasn't experience a loss yet. Whatever is easy for Loma, he should go for that fight, and since he is a proven boxer already, he is not there to cherry pick opponents but to fight the best. There's still plenty of time, I hope that will happen before the year will end and if Loma wins, he could rest and continue next year.

There will be no easy fight for him, so whoever comes first for Loma gonna be tough. But I will agree that we want him to fight Tank Davis, that will be an explosive fight as Tank has power but Loma is tactician in the ring, just like in this fight, we didn't know that his strategy is to go to the body and soften Kambosos.

So it will be a battle of strategy as well, who will prevail in this kid of stylistics match up?

And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Maslate on May 16, 2024, 12:00:22 PM
And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.

That would motivate Loma more, of course he can do that because that's part of marketing, he sell the fight and both are happy with the paycheck. Based on the current ranking now, it's Tank Davis who is above Loma, so most likely the betting odds will favorr Tank Davis as the heavy favorite, and that means we all who believe in Loma here will be happy betting on Loma.

Tank hasn't fought a tough challenger after beating Ryan, I think this time he needs to consider Loma which is a real threat to him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 16, 2024, 01:13:45 PM
And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.

That would motivate Loma more, of course he can do that because that's part of marketing, he sell the fight and both are happy with the paycheck. Based on the current ranking now, it's Tank Davis who is above Loma, so most likely the betting odds will favorr Tank Davis as the heavy favorite, and that means we all who believe in Loma here will be happy betting on Loma.

Tank hasn't fought a tough challenger after beating Ryan, I think this time he needs to consider Loma which is a real threat to him.

Lomachenko's career resurgence after the win is evident, and since he is in the retirement stage, there were rumors of him retiring, but there is no formal announcement yet; he should go for top names in his division, and we can all agree Tank is the best choice for Loma, and Loma is also the best choice for Tank.

This will be a big demand after Tank defeats Frank Martin; Martin is one tough customer for Tank.
Of course, I also want to see Lomachecko get revenge on Haney because it's a controversial win, and they need to run it again for the boxing fans and each other so there will be a closure on who is a better tactician between the two.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Finestream on May 16, 2024, 01:24:04 PM
And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.

That would motivate Loma more, of course he can do that because that's part of marketing, he sell the fight and both are happy with the paycheck. Based on the current ranking now, it's Tank Davis who is above Loma, so most likely the betting odds will favorr Tank Davis as the heavy favorite, and that means we all who believe in Loma here will be happy betting on Loma.

Tank hasn't fought a tough challenger after beating Ryan, I think this time he needs to consider Loma which is a real threat to him.

Lomachenko's career resurgence after the win is evident, and since he is in the retirement stage, there were rumors of him retiring, but there is no formal announcement yet; he should go for top names in his division, and we can all agree Tank is the best choice for Loma, and Loma is also the best choice for Tank.

This will be a big demand after Tank defeats Frank Martin; Martin is one tough customer for Tank.
Of course, I also want to see Lomachecko get revenge on Haney because it's a controversial win, and they need to run it again for the boxing fans and each other so there will be a closure on who is a better tactician between the two.


I think it's still to early to retire, he is 36 years old now and Pacman even retire at 42. So I guess maybe 2 to 3 years, that would be enough for him to gain more big fight and maybe retain his championship belt or beat the other champions if he decide to move up. The hype is on because of his big win, so the fans are hoping not to see him retire as there are plenty of boxers now that Loma has a chance of beating them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: coin-investor on May 16, 2024, 02:29:11 PM


I think it's still to early to retire, he is 36 years old now and Pacman even retire at 42. So I guess maybe 2 to 3 years, that would be enough for him to gain more big fight and maybe retain his championship belt or beat the other champions if he decide to move up. The hype is on because of his big win, so the fans are hoping not to see him retire as there are plenty of boxers now that Loma has a chance of beating them.

I also believe that he's too young to retire. It's just that fake news has leaked that he wants to retire, but unless there's a formal announcement, I still believe he will keep fighting. Loma is such an extraordinary fighter. It's not easy for a fighter to be fighting at a very high level when your country is at war.

In the coming days, we will read the announcement on who he will fight next or what are his next plans; it's better for him to go after Lopez and Haney; these are two fighters that beat him, but the way he performed against Kambosos he can still beat these two.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on May 16, 2024, 09:56:16 PM


I think it's still to early to retire, he is 36 years old now and Pacman even retire at 42. So I guess maybe 2 to 3 years, that would be enough for him to gain more big fight and maybe retain his championship belt or beat the other champions if he decide to move up. The hype is on because of his big win, so the fans are hoping not to see him retire as there are plenty of boxers now that Loma has a chance of beating them.

I also believe that he's too young to retire. It's just that fake news has leaked that he wants to retire, but unless there's a formal announcement, I still believe he will keep fighting. Loma is such an extraordinary fighter. It's not easy for a fighter to be fighting at a very high level when your country is at war.

I wasn't aware that there are news that Loma is going to retire. But I do agree, he is still can pull the trigger, and very technical in dismantling Kambosos and it seems that this fight is really a mismatch in my opinion. And his compatriot Usyk is also going into one of the biggest fight for this year and for sure Loma still wanted to raise their flag in his next fight.

In the coming days, we will read the announcement on who he will fight next or what are his next plans; it's better for him to go after Lopez and Haney; these are two fighters that beat him, but the way he performed against Kambosos he can still beat these two.

As there is a shared video already, it could be Davis or Stevenson next for Loma as per Bob Arum. I don't think that Loma will go after Lopez and Haney, they are too big for Loma at 135 lbs. Both of this fighters now are campaigning at 140 lbs and they could even move to 147 lbs. Best weight class for Loma is this at Lightweight Division and still pretty much stack up with Keyshawn Davis, Frank Martin and Denis Berinchyk. No need for him to force his body to go up in weight just to fight and avenge his losses to those two fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Jating on May 17, 2024, 12:06:03 AM
And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.

That would motivate Loma more, of course he can do that because that's part of marketing, he sell the fight and both are happy with the paycheck. Based on the current ranking now, it's Tank Davis who is above Loma, so most likely the betting odds will favorr Tank Davis as the heavy favorite, and that means we all who believe in Loma here will be happy betting on Loma.

Tank hasn't fought a tough challenger after beating Ryan, I think this time he needs to consider Loma which is a real threat to him.

Lomachenko's career resurgence after the win is evident, and since he is in the retirement stage, there were rumors of him retiring, but there is no formal announcement yet; he should go for top names in his division, and we can all agree Tank is the best choice for Loma, and Loma is also the best choice for Tank.

That is a bad move if Loma chooses to hang up his gloves after this big win against Kambosos. I mean he is the favorite in this fight, but we still don't know if he still has it. But he proves everyone wrong with this mastery class against Kambosos and that body shot is perfect.

This will be a big demand after Tank defeats Frank Martin; Martin is one tough customer for Tank.
Of course, I also want to see Lomachecko get revenge on Haney because it's a controversial win, and they need to run it again for the boxing fans and each other so there will be a closure on who is a better tactician between the two.

It's a style made in heaven, I think Loma is more of the tactician here while Davis will rely on his power. In this fight against Pitbull Cruz or Rolly Romero or even Ryan Garcia, it takes him a couple of rounds to figure out his opponents. So it will be a great match up to see him how he will do against a fighter as well with a good IQ just like his and better technique.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 17, 2024, 03:28:18 AM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

There is also the vacant WBO championship that can be included for Shakur and Loma's next fight. This will certainly be very thrilling again for lightweight boxing. My only wish as a fan is King Ry can still make this weight and fight for the vacant lightweight WBO championship vs. someone with no name and be included in the list of the kings of lightweight hehehehe. However, it appears we will never witness this anymore after his victory vs. Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 17, 2024, 10:58:09 AM
And imagine the trash talking of Tank Davis and not respecting Loma at all.

That would motivate Loma more, of course he can do that because that's part of marketing, he sell the fight and both are happy with the paycheck. Based on the current ranking now, it's Tank Davis who is above Loma, so most likely the betting odds will favorr Tank Davis as the heavy favorite, and that means we all who believe in Loma here will be happy betting on Loma.

Tank hasn't fought a tough challenger after beating Ryan, I think this time he needs to consider Loma which is a real threat to him.

Lomachenko's career resurgence after the win is evident, and since he is in the retirement stage, there were rumors of him retiring, but there is no formal announcement yet; he should go for top names in his division, and we can all agree Tank is the best choice for Loma, and Loma is also the best choice for Tank.

This will be a big demand after Tank defeats Frank Martin; Martin is one tough customer for Tank.
Of course, I also want to see Lomachecko get revenge on Haney because it's a controversial win, and they need to run it again for the boxing fans and each other so there will be a closure on who is a better tactician between the two.


I think it's still to early to retire, he is 36 years old now and Pacman even retire at 42. So I guess maybe 2 to 3 years, that would be enough for him to gain more big fight and maybe retain his championship belt or beat the other champions if he decide to move up. The hype is on because of his big win, so the fans are hoping not to see him retire as there are plenty of boxers now that Loma has a chance of beating them.
Although at 36 years is old enough for some boxers to retire, but I do not see Loma thinking of retiring. He started late in his career as he has focus more on being a amateur standout and basically went undefeated as he avenge his losses. So he is a late bloomer in boxing and as we can see in his fight, he is a technical fighter and so he didn't take that much damage to say that he has the typical wear and tear on a boxer. And I guess representing his country of Ukraine is very big for him as we all know that he sacrifices a lot when this fight was originally scheduled before but he had to go back and defend his country that time.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title
Post by: btc_angela on May 17, 2024, 08:00:34 PM
@Baofeng. I wish it will be Lomachencko vs. Shakur first and I also wish Shakur will win this and have a big name in his record. This will certainly cause the scammer Tank Davis to be very envious because all of the hype will go to Shakur. Tank's hype will be lower after fighting the boxer that we do not know name? Is it Steve Martin? Yes, I wish Martin will give a shocking performance and make it a split decision heheheh.

It could be a done deal, with Loma vs Shakur, but unfortunately Shakur is thinking of not re-signing his contract with Top Rank which is up to July 6. But Top Rank can still hostage Shakur, they can say to him sign with us again and we will guarantee a fight with Loma.

And that's why it might be Tank first if Shakur doesn't want to extend his contract with Bob Arum and Top Rank.

I think it will still be good for Loma's legacy to fight Tank Davis first. Will not change a thing and then if Shakur still wants a piece of Loma then maybe he will be next or Bob Arum skipping him totally.

There is also the vacant WBO championship that can be included for Shakur and Loma's next fight. This will certainly be very thrilling again for lightweight boxing. My only wish as a fan is King Ry can still make this weight and fight for the vacant lightweight WBO championship vs. someone with no name and be included in the list of the kings of lightweight hehehehe. However, it appears we will never witness this anymore after his victory vs. Haney.

Unfortunately, Ryan really outgrew the 135 lbs very quick, he could have stayed if he wants, but obviously his performance are going to suffer if he chooses to stay. Just like what Teo did when he lost to Kambosos, he just decided to move up to 140 lbs and then take that L. Now he is the linear champion at Jr. Welterweight and the WBO champion.

So good decision by Ryan and if they could only make the 140 lbs, he could have been the champion today but he has a lot of controversy to face now about the Peds allegation.

But Loma, he has two targets: Gervonta "Tank" Davis, and Shakur Stevenson.