[Boxing] Lomachenko vs. Kambosos - May 12 IBF Lightweight Title

[btc_angela]

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

[Maslate]

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

Of course, and I'm sure this challenge is not tough compared to his upcoming fight if he wins here.

[Kelvinid]

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

Everyone has their own opinion but you maybe correct that Mayweather and Pacman are on a different level as they are a hall of famer. We can make a survey now and ask people who are the top 10 boxers, I'm pretty sure Mayweather and Pacman names are always in the list. However, Loma is still active, he can still improve his achievements and make his own legacy in boxing. Of course, some are saying that he is not anymore on his prime, so Loma has to proved in his fight by beating Kambosos impressively and be a champ once again.

[Baofeng]

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

Everyone has their own opinion but you maybe correct that Mayweather and Pacman are on a different level as they are a hall of famer. We can make a survey now and ask people who are the top 10 boxers, I'm pretty sure Mayweather and Pacman names are always in the list. However, Loma is still active, he can still improve his achievements and make his own legacy in boxing. Of course, some are saying that he is not anymore on his prime, so Loma has to proved in his fight by beating Kambosos impressively and be a champ once again.

He already had some solid legacy in boxing, and I think he will be in the HOF in the future. And he is still carving out his own legacy. I might say that Loma could be slowing down, but still though elite boxers has still one good fight in their bag and I think this could be for Loma. He will become a world champion again if he defeats Kambosos so that will be enough motivation to at least pursue his dreams. And for the record, he is the most successful amateur boxer in history, and won championship belt from featherweight, super-featherweight, and lightweight, and trying to regain his belt again at 135 lbs.

[serjent05]

After seeing Loma's performance against Haney, who had a considerable size and height advantage, I don't see Kambosos as being too much of an obstacle for him. George Kambosos last fight was in July of last year in which he won an unimpressive majority decision against fringe contender Maxi Hughes. Kambosos was supposed to fight Loma already but, due to the conflict in Ukraine, he faced Haney instead and lost his belts in the first defense after defeating Teofimo Lopez.

I highly agree with your statement.  I saw how finesse Lomachenco moves is compared to the rough movement of Kambosos.  I think there is a huge difference between the technical skill of these two boxers having Lomachenco on the advantage.

I think there is a slim chance for this fight to end in a knockout so boxing fans can enjoy the whole boxing round watching the two boxers' performance.  I think that this fight will end in a unanimous decision in favor of Lomachenco.

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

Sometimes we wish great boxers lived in the same era so that we can see more clearly who is greater among them.  But that is just the thing goes, all we can do is to speculate on who is better when great boxers appear in different eras.

Aside from that, the boxing career does not mold by the boxer's alone, their promoter and manager plays a huge part on how they can make their boxer great by pressing fights that will make their boxer looks impressive and avoiding fights that can make their boxer lose.

We can see it on how Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao scheduled their next opponent or create fight scenario to make them at an advantage while making them look as underdog.  In Manny Pacquiao's career, he fights in a catchweight where he makes himself looks underdog while having an advantage since their bigger opponent is severely dehydrated while meeting the qualifying weight, while Mayweather cherry picks his opponent wisely.

[Kemarit]

But not as impressive against boxers who are trying to challenge themselves by aiming to become a pound-for-pound champion. At this stage, Haney and Lopez are considered better than Loma. It's just that Loma gained popularity first because he is an exciting boxer, but not much has happened in his career. He became a champion, but it seems he will stay within his limits, so we can't compare him to champions who are risk takers.

As for the latest pound for pound ranking, he is not anymore at the top 10.

https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/39192661/boxing-pound-pound-rankings-naoya-inoue-dmitry-bivol-jesse-rodriguez-pick-votes

Not everybody has to have a career like Pacquiao or Mayweather to be considered an all time great. Lomachenko is more than just an exciting boxer, he has an impressive résumé to back up his legacy. Every single one of Lomachenko’s opponents from his debut has either been a highly rated contender or a world champion. The only other fighter I can think of who has followed a similar path is Naoya Inoue, but even Inoue fought somebody with a losing record in his second fight.

A pound for pound list doesn’t tell the entire story. ESPN and The Ring have Tank Davis in their top 10. The Ring also has Errol Spence on theirs. These are fighters who could only ever dream of having the career Loma has had, because there is a 0% chance they will even come close to Loma’s accomplishments.

And the latest rankings, they have removed Teo Lopez if I'm not mistaken, read it somewhere but I forget who's the boxer that they have inserted as number 10. Yes, I do agree that Loma can still be as impressive as anyone, and could be considered a legend, and in the future he could be enshire on the boxing hall of fame.

Loma is great but IMO he is near close to Mayweather and Pacman, he is great in his own way but he does not take a lot of fight and get tested.
As per https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, he only fought 17 times, while Mayweather fought 50 (retired 50-0), and Pacman had 62 fights..

Before, great boxers keep fighting, but now they are just choosing when and whom to fight just to keep that undefeated reccord, sadly Loma was not able to, but he is better than other boxers with undefeated record.

But we need Loma to win here, and become a champion, he is the favorite so hopefully he won't pass his perfect opportunity again. Age could be a factor, but against Haney he shows that he can still go and fight and even give Haney a lot of problems. It's that his rally during that fight was too late and not enough to overcome the early points that Haney has accumulated.

Of course, and I'm sure this challenge is not tough compared to his upcoming fight if he wins here.

It's because Loma started late in his career, he was like 26 years old when he had his first fight. It was due to him staying in the amateurs for too long, however, he was a very decorated amateur boxer, winning golds at at the 2008 and 2012 Summer Games at featherweight and lightweight.

Fight for the belt against Oscar Salido in this second fight, but Salido was a dirty fighter and fouled Loma several times and experienced his first defeat as a pro-fighter. Been FOTY twice as well.

But then again, lost to Teo and then to Haney, would have been cemented his legacy even further if he had beaten this two young fighters. But he still has a chance against George Kambosos, might be a good gauge for us boxing fans if Loma still have it even at his age.

[Jating]

Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

[Natalim]

Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

I have no doubt that he will win here as his opponent seemed declining as well. It's the first step of the test, once he win and he gets another shot with a champion and win, then that's the time to conclude that he still has not pass his prime. 36 years is still not old in boxing, in fact Mayweather retired when he was already 41 but was still undefeated.

Loma might loss to Haney, but a boxer who had that kind of fight against a very quick Haney is already considered a great boxer, and besides, the fight ended up as a controversial fight which some believe he wins, so the respect is still there.

[Yaunfitda]

Just sharing you a good  article about Loma,

Is Lomachenko an aging, legendary warrior or is he a fighter finally on the cusp of that defining win several years and several weight classes deep into his career? Maybe he’s both.

https://www.boxingscene.com/how-much-vasiliy-lomachenko-really-left--182629

And probably this is also the questions from us, a close lost to Haney, and after coming from a hiatus due to what happen to his country, it seems that Loma might have lost some step already.

But the question will be answered in this fight whether he still has it and can pull the trigger or at age 36, he is declining and could be at the sunset of his career and he should retire for good.

I have no doubt that he will win here as his opponent seemed declining as well. It's the first step of the test, once he win and he gets another shot with a champion and win, then that's the time to conclude that he still has not pass his prime. 36 years is still not old in boxing, in fact Mayweather retired when he was already 41 but was still undefeated.

Loma might loss to Haney, but a boxer who had that kind of fight against a very quick Haney is already considered a great boxer, and besides, the fight ended up as a controversial fight which some believe he wins, so the respect is still there.

It's more on the mindset of Loma. In his last fight which he unfortunately lost to Haney, we've seen that he can still fight even at his age. And there are no wear and tear on Loma as he was late when he join the pro ranks but was privilege to be given a chance to fight for the belt early in his career. And he is a huge favorite in this fight, so yeah, he might win here. I also read some twitter post that Loma is still the best 135 lbs, his ranking is even higher than Tank or even Shakur, although there could be arguments in that. But we know that Tank is only a paper champion, doesn't want to risk his 0, and then Shakur a boring fighter.

[Baofeng]

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,



Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

[coin-investor]

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

The Haney-Garcia and the Canelo-Munguia were in the spotlight the whole month of April that we forget this fight when, in actuality, this has the making of a great fight as both fighters are in dire need of a win.

Loma, if he loses here, he will be contemplating retiring, and if Kambosos loses, he will go to the bottom, and it is hard to climb to the top, so it's a must-win for both fighters.

So far, this is the result of the community vote, Loma is the overwhelming favourite many still believe that Loma can recapture his old glory, if we base it on each fighter's performance against Haney, whom they both fought, Loma shows a much better performance

Lomachenko by KO   - 11 (57.9%)
Lomachenko by decision   - 8 (42.1%)
Kambosos by KO   - 0 (0%)
Kambosos by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 19

[Japinat]

Loma, if he loses here, he will be contemplating retiring, and if Kambosos loses, he will go to the bottom, and it is hard to climb to the top, so it's a must-win for both fighters.

he can't lose against a fighter who are not good in making adjustment in the ring. Loma is called a technical fighter because he is good in making adjustments, he doesn't spend his energy a lot, he just make sure that he use it at the right timing to beat his opponent. Kambosos  career was already declining, but he sees this as an opportunity to get back on top, however, it's also a big risk for him as a loss means no more big fights coming for him.

[btc_angela]

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,

Both on the hill hill of their career, whoever wins will surely be the champion and career continue. But the loser will have to go back to the drawing board and it might take several fights if they want to continue with their career or to get back and have another crack at the belt.

The Haney-Garcia and the Canelo-Munguia were in the spotlight the whole month of April that we forget this fight when, in actuality, this has the making of a great fight as both fighters are in dire need of a win.

Right, we are sandwich by this two biggest fight for the month of May, even the Inoue vs Nery was almost put at the back side because of this two fights.

Nevertheless, here we are and majority thinks that Loma will win either by KO or by decision and I agree to most of the voters. If not for his narrow lost against Haney, Loma could not be fighting Haney's left over here.

But still a win is a win if he will ever get over Kambosos and then maybe some of the biggest name at 135 lbs like Shakur Stevenson or Gervonta Davis next for Loma. He needs this big fight as we all know that he is not getting any younger, and might be contemplating as well to retire in the next year or two.

[yazher]

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,
To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,

I still can't move on about the fight last weekend and now we still have more upcoming and also an exciting fight between a technical fighter and a good challenger. I wonder how Kambosos will adjust to make it difficult for Loma to beat him since he is the underdog in this fight whether he likes it or not. he should come up with some surprising technique to beat Loma or else he will just be simply defeated like the Loma's past opponents. I can't wait to watch for another action, we want some real fights such as this one and also we have more upcoming as well in the next months.

[Japinat]

Wow, last post was a month ago and now we are in the fight week already,
To pump up for this fight, everyone watch the promo,

I still can't move on about the fight last weekend and now we still have more upcoming and also an exciting fight between a technical fighter and a good challenger. I wonder how Kambosos will adjust to make it difficult for Loma to beat him since he is the underdog in this fight whether he likes it or not. he should come up with some surprising technique to beat Loma or else he will just be simply defeated like the Loma's past opponents. I can't wait to watch for another action, we want some real fights such as this one and also we have more upcoming as well in the next months.

Kambosos will be more motivated in this fight because it will be done in Australia, in front of the thousand fans that will likely watch the fight. It's a make or break for him, you know, he is not a champion anymore, his career is going downhill after two losses experienced from Haney, so it's time for him to make his career come alive, and that will only happen if he beats a very tough opponent like Loma.

Few days from now, we are gonna witness a very exciting fight, his sure not boring because Kambosos is an aggressive fighter while Loma doesn't back down either.

[coin-investor]

Few days from now, we are gonna witness a very exciting fight, his sure not boring because Kambosos is an aggressive fighter while Loma doesn't back down either.

Yes, indeed, and those living in the Philippines and Ukraine can watch the fight live through TOP Rank Facebook and YouTube page; if you have a VPN, you can also watch the fight live.

I wonder why only on Ukraine and The Philippines when the fight is anticipated by other countries as well like the United States.

#LomaKambosos will stream LIVE on our YouTube & Facebook pages. Exclusively in Ukraine and the Philippines!

https://www.facebook.com/trboxing/

[TravelMug]

^^ Good question, perhaps they decided just one country in Asia to be included and they know that the Philippines has a lot of good boxing fans. And obviously Ukraine for Loma's hometown. And we are lucky that we will be able to watch it. And I think the sentimental favorite here is still Loma, as we think that he was robbed on the Haney fight and seeing him cry after losing, we really felt that he badly needed that win as it is his big dream to become a champion again. Luckily, he has a good chance at redemption against Kambosos and the odds favor him to win by a huge margin.

[Kemarit]

Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

[bisdak40]

Longest face-off in boxing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voa-oXjTv9w

It was like they started at 0:27 and then the announcer in the background doing his job, and after he had said everything, both of this fighters are still staring at each other, LOL. Personally though, I'm seeing Loma winning by unanimous decision here, he is the more experience and the better boxer/technician in this fight.

I do agree, Loma got the experience and talent to beat Kambosos. If only Loma was younger, i would bet on him to knockout his opponent but at this stage of his career, knockout is a slim possibility though he still got some sting on his punch but we know also that Kambosos is a tough nut to crack that even the hard hitting Teo Lopez failed to knockout him.

[aioc]

There is another motivation for Lomachenko to win this fight, and this is he will have a chance to become an undisputed champion

Vasiliy Lomachenko’s dream of becoming undisputed champion could be close to reality if he beats George Kambosos Jr. for the IBF lightweight title this Sunday.

https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-face-shakur-stevenson-with-win-over-george-kambosos--183407

Bob Arum promised to give him a shot against Shakur Stevenson if he disposed of Kambosos, but this is not going to be easy because, as we all know, Kambosos also badly need this win, and the fight is going to be held in Australia and Lomachenko is not getting any younger, but he still has a chance to reach his dream to become an undisputed champion at 36.