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After failing to become the undisputed lightweight champion, in a narrow and controversial decision, Vasiliy Lomachenko will now fight former unified champion George Kambosos in Australia for the IBF title. After seeing Loma's performance against Haney, who had a considerable size and height advantage, I don't see Kambosos as being too much of an obstacle for him. George Kambosos last fight was in July of last year in which he won an unimpressive majority decision against fringe contender Maxi Hughes. Kambosos was supposed to fight Loma already but, due to the conflict in Ukraine, he faced Haney instead and lost his belts in the first defense after defeating Teofimo Lopez. Outside of his victory against a Teofimo, who had been facing health issues, Kambosos has had an unremarkable career and the betting odds should heavily favor Lomachenko. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/39308945/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-fight-set-12![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F01%2F25%2FktJZb.png&t=665&c=HOtvF9w7MlzT7A)
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January 17, 2024, 06:29:49 AM |
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I don't think we need a poll for this, Loma is an easy pick here, he has speed, and power and is more technical than Kambosos, if Haney beats him easily Loma can do better, kambosos have problems dealing with technical fighters unless Loma shows signs of aging which I doubt he's not based on his last fight Loma still has it, Its good that it's a title fight Loma had a good chance to be champion here. Loma can easily beat Kambosos if he is the Loma that we all know, and Kambosos to beat Loma needs technical trainers by his side and to focus more on power and endurance its hard to deal with Loma because of his illusiveness and great fotwork.
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January 17, 2024, 07:10:32 AM |
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Loma is currently -430 as per https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-v-george-kambosos-jnr. The line says it all, Loma is the heavy favorite to win the fight. Though I must say that it's a big fight but I cannot expect that Kambosos here will win the fight. Loma is too technical, if he was just dominated by Haney, then this guy who almost beat Haney might probably do the same to him, worst is it could knock him out and might result to retiring early. Risky decision by Kambosos but I like his courage though.
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January 17, 2024, 08:19:27 AM |
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With this line, it only tells that his value has dropped significantly. The fights with Haney that he never had a chance to make close were the main reason for that, so he needed this fight to get back to the top. However, I doubt Loma would allow that to happen since he is also aiming for a big win, hoping to secure a more significant fight next time, perhaps another match with Haney. What I can only expect this fight is that it's going to be an entertaining one since Kambosos does not know any other style but to be aggressive and always go forward, but since Loma is a good counter puncher, I'm afraid this will not reach the judges scorecards.
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January 17, 2024, 08:27:25 AM |
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The line says it all, Loma is the heavy favorite to win the fight. Though I must say that it's a big fight but I cannot expect that Kambosos here will win the fight. Loma is too technical, if he was just dominated by Haney, then this guy who almost beat Haney might probably do the same to him, worst is it could knock him out and might result to retiring early.
Risky decision by Kambosos but I like his courage though.
I was not impressed with Kamboso's fight before this fight, It was a cherry-picked fight against Maxi Hughes and he only managed to get a majority decision, Lomachenko after losing to Haney wants to get back at the top he is a more hungry fighter because he wants to prove something after his defeat by Haney, who many considered to be the fight Loma won. Vasily has a long vacation but I don't think it will affect his performance, Lomachenko is just too good for Kambosos I will consider this as one of the easy fights for Loma that is if he still has those matrix movements that he is known for, both are gentlemen in the ring I don't any thrash talk event, but even though there is none this is going to be an exciting pack fight with a lot of movements on both fighters.
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January 17, 2024, 09:47:16 AM |
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I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
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January 17, 2024, 12:27:18 PM |
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I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision.
I don't even think it will end to the judges scorecards, but if it will, for sure you are right. However, I see a different outcome this fight, Kambosos is an easy target for Loma, and I believe as the rounds goes by, Loma will slowly wear down Kambosos until his body will give up. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
I disagree with that, kambosos still has the power thought although doesn't have the quickness. We still need to remember that Kambosos beat Lopez who beat Lomachenko in an epic battle.
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January 17, 2024, 01:14:32 PM |
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I've checked the poll and so far all votes are on Lomachencko either by decision or knockout and even on betting he is the heavy favorite, even if Loma was beaten by Haney it's a controversial match I still consider Loma a dangerous fighter, and fighting Kambosos who did not even show a good fight against Haney when they met, its right that Loma is the heavy favorite, he is still fast with good movement and like everyone here are saying matrix like movement. There are two boxers I've known who have matrix-type moves and these are Prince Hamed and Lomachenko, this makes these two fighters rare in boxing.
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January 17, 2024, 01:22:13 PM |
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I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies.
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January 17, 2024, 03:54:22 PM |
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I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies. My prediction for this fight is Vasiliy Lomachenko by decision because both fighters haven't KO'd in their losses. They both can last more than 12 rounds.The previous fight between Vasiliy Lomachenko and Devin Haney was a complete robbery. The only thing that can defeat Vasiliy Lomachenko are totally the judges if the match goes the distance. But I don't see George Kambosos Jr. as the underdog in this match; it looks like a balanced fight. Even the records tell the whole story.
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January 17, 2024, 04:18:31 PM |
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I agree that Kambosos might not pose a significant obstacle, especially given his less impressive recent victory. Considering Lomachenko's track record and the analysis of their styles, I would lean towards Lomachenko winning, the favorite going into the fight perhaps by unanimous decision. Kambosos does have the capability to surprise, but the odds do seem to heavily favor Lomachenko in this matchup, It'll be interesting to see how the fight unfolds, though – anything can happen.
Looks like another easy fight for him but we cannot say that Kambosos will just easily give him the fight without trying and it could be that he has something prepared for this fight and will gonna surprise Loma once they are inside the ring. I wanted to see a fight that will be remembered in the history of boxing and they should really try to win despite they are being the underdog of the fight. Kambosos should try to mimic the style of Haney and give him the same pressure and just try every bit of style he learned from that fight in order to increase his chance of beating Loma. After all, Loma came from a lost and he is still not himself in the earlier rounds and this is his chance to surprise and overwhelm him with his strategies. Most of the tough fighters in that division look down on Kambosos as an easy picking. After winning against Lopez, they finally see him as he could be matched to fight Loma, and after this fight maybe he will be fighting Shakur or Tank. Kambosos had once unified titles too. He is big in the division while LW isn't the usual weight class of Loma. Kambosos has an edge in this fight and Loma is not what he is anymore. A prime Loma could have worn out Haney but obviously, he isn't in his prime anymore. He may retire after 2 fights.
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Well this is the original plan though, after Kambosos won against Teo Lopez, Loma is next in line. However, we all know that Loma went back to his native Ukraine to be in the frontline in the war and the career of this two goes on a lot of twist and turn, Kambosos losing twice to Haney including all the belts and then same with Loma, close one against Haney and failed to get the undisputed belt.
At least though, they have a chance to fight and it's all in-house money again for Bob Arum and Top Rank. But it's good that a belt is on the line here and winner becoming a champion again. But I think Loma's technical prowess and boxing IQ will prevail here. Kambosos have a hard time fighting against a boxer that moves a lot and it could be a target shooting for Loma here.
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They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.
As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.
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They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.
Kambosos is sure a leftover for Haney, he beat him twice and make him look like an amateur. However against Loma, that was controversial, many believe Haney didn't win, but Haney ain't a real warrior, maybe he himself also feel that he lose that fight so he didn't give a rematch. As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.
We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges. With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet.
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January 18, 2024, 12:01:54 PM |
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We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.
That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation. With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet. I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow. Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive.
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January 18, 2024, 12:04:52 PM |
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They say this is Haney's left-over fights, hehehe, but it's true, however, I'm not that convinced that Haney totally defeated Loma in their fight. And then he refuses Loma for a rematch. Haney though has accomplished a lot in his young career, so we will give him that.
Obviously, it is, but for us, he beat Kambosos fair and square. But against Lomachenko, it's questionable as most of us here thought that Loma did enough to at least make it a draw. But the judges saw that early score of Haney is enough for him to win. So it's not that it's a left-over fight. And with Haney going up in weight and winning a belt, I don't think he will go back to this weight anymore. And so it's good to hear that the IBF belt is on the line for this two. And I'm seeing Loma winning and maybe it's time for Tank Davis to fight him. Tank has been protected for so long, and they should make fight a real champion. As for this fight, Kambosos only advantage here is that t his fight is going to be in his native Australia again. Nevertheless, it's not a assurance, Haney traveled to Australia and bet him twice. And I think his string of bad luck fighting in his home country will continue as I see Loma winning thru 12 rounds here.
Loma needs a convincing win though. He is going to travel to Australia and we have seen worst thing happen like in the Pacquiao vs Horn fight. Hopefully, they won't rob Loma. But Loma can remove the judges in this scenario if he can win by a knockout. Or just a total dominant win just like what he did when he has coming to 135 lbs and defeating a lot of great boxers.
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We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.
That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation. With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet. I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow. Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive. There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased. But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard?
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We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.
That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation. With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet. I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow. Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive. There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased. But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard? Rumor months ago was that it was supposed to be Shakur to fight Loma but instead, Loma chose Kambosos. Maybe he figured he wouldn't have a problem beating George after all, Geroge is not a KO finisher and he is much older than Shakur so he could likely defeat Kambosos. If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.
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We don't want to see another Jeff Horn vs Pac scenario here. So hopefully Loma will ensure that this fight is not gonna reach the judges scorecards. Personally, I feel like Loma could be robbed again in different place, so it's too risky for him to rely only on the decision of the judges.
That's already in the books, people will not forget that, and everytime we hear a fight held in Australia, we could be a little doublful of the outcome. What they did to Pacman was an obvious robbery, and with that, they also destroyed their reputation. With that said, I think Loma by KO is the best bet. I don't know what the odds is yet but I'm willing to follow. Loma's last TKO win was in 2021 while Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, so I'm sure the odds will be attractive. There will be a lot of Australians in the undercard, like the Moloney's, so if will be ashamed if they will do a homecook like what this did against the legendary Manny Pacquiao. And to be fair, Tim Tzsyu has been fighting in Australia and it seems everything is not biased. But if we talked about thet fight, if Loma's last TKO win was in 2021, and Kambosos hasn't been KO in his career, then it's safe to say that if Loma wins then it will be a unanimous decision or the fight going to the judges scorecard? Rumor months ago was that it was supposed to be Shakur to fight Loma but instead, Loma chose Kambosos. Maybe he figured he wouldn't have a problem beating George after all, Geroge is not a KO finisher and he is much older than Shakur so he could likely defeat Kambosos. If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss. It's hard to make that fight though, and although they are in Top Rank stable, Arum might not be ready for it as he is building Shakur's name to be his next cash cow when Loma retires. So he pitted Kambosos, less risk big reward for Loma, and most likely as we have predicted, he can win that IBF belt. But I do agree that it's more pressure on the side of Loma here, he is not getting any younger, one of the most decorated amateur, become a champion in pro, but his main goal according to him is to be undisputed but he wasn't able to accomplished that. But he can still be a champion if he can beat a still young fighter in George Kambosos and maybe after that if he got the belt, the camp of Shakur will be ready for him.
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If Loma couldn't KO or win more rounds then it could be a win for George by decision. Loma not winning this fight is nowhere else to go. He has to win otherwise it will be a series of loss.
I have not seen Loma slowing down in his last fight against Haney he did better than Kambosos against Haney on two occasions so it's easy to figure out that Lomachenko will be a better fighter when the fight that is why I posted that we don't need a post for this fight. Both fighters badly need to win this fight. I'm sure they will both go all out to prove that they deserve to be in contention for a title, It is always good to see if you see two fighters battling it out or surviving to stay in contention, the loser will slip further in ranking. The winner will move up and possibly earn another title fight. Both fighters still have what it takes to be champion again it's just unfortunate that one of them will have to unless the fight ends in a draw.
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