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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

The exchange that you use for the future trading can be hacked
I do not think bitcoin can go below $40000 again but anything is possible
You may think to increase the leverage which might lead to money loss, that is future trading.

First of all move topic trading discussion board.

There is a difference between trading and investing in bitcoin. Trading is much more difficult and risk than investing most especially the future trading which involves margins or leverages. Adding leverage increases the reward of your holdings because it increases your position and it also increases the risk of liquidation.

As Someone without knowledge of trading even if you have with this small capital, I will warn you against trading and advice you to just create a custodial wallet and buy bitcoin and store there for as long as you want without the fear of liquidation

If you invest €100 into futures trading now with 3x leverage and let's say you enter a "buy /long" position, you will likely get liquidated when the price of bitcoin drops to $39k+, and with the current bull trend, I doubt if the bitcoin price will dropbelow $40k any time soon, but note that the price of bitcoin is dynamic and could go against the speculated price. So, if you enter a "long" position right now with 3x leverage and the price doesn't fall below your liquidation price, you can hold onto the trade for a long time until the price gets to $70k and keeps surging high, then you can take profit if you want. 

Trading is risky, keeping money in CEX for a long time is also risky. If you think you can handle the risk, you can go for futures, but if you also want to be on the safe side, you can buy and hold in your self-custodial wallet. The bitcoin price will definitely hit an new all-time high, and you will make a profit if you are holding. If you can also risk entering a long position in futures trading and the price goes as speculated, you will still be in profit. 

Follow the advice of EL MOHA and move this thread to Trading discussion board. This is not a technical discussion question but a trading related question. I would never suggest you to go for futures trading if you are not good at trading. I won't suggest you to go with 3x leverage for either short/long positions. Look the Bitcoin is have a parabolic move and if it continues then you might have risk of liquidation if you open short position with 3x leverage.

On the other hand after this parabolic move Bitcoin might get dumped in a strange and unexpected way. I suggest you to put your €100 in a wallet and wait for the market to calm down a little bit and then start try to invest your money by following DCA strategy and dip buying. That way you won't be at much risk, however if you're a good trader then you can take advantage of this parabolic move, but surely that way is full of risk.

Woah that's a lot of risk right there but depends on the bitcoin market it keeps on increasing in price if its continues then there is a posibility that it will reach another all time high (ATH) but that's still an speculations, its up to you if you can take the risk, the thing is futures is that the higher you raise the leverage the higher the damagee will also be get, but of course if you are right then the reward is imaginable, its your call just use the funds that you are ready to lose, it may be regretful for instances but if you are a risk taker then go for it, just remember there's a lot of hype right now in bitcoin so anything that could happen to bitcoin price could be unpredictable, its not too late yes but it still has the risk because you might enter in a peak position then possibility of correction.

People have different strategies and I suggest you also have your own rather than being told what to do. Both strategies can make money if well executed. Longing at x3 is still high risk. 40K isn't so far away if Bitcoin decided to drop in price. To minimize the loses, you have to deploy proper risk management.

Buying at spot market and waiting it out is much less stressful but require way too much patience.

Invest does not mean you use your money to buy Bitcoin and trade it with leverages in Futures trading or Leverage trading. Invest means buying Bitcoin and hold it in your non custodial wallet or in your account on centralized exchange.

I want to warn that storing your bitcoin on centralized exchange is risky.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421039.0)

Wait for Bitcoin to cool down, correct and buy it then hold it. It is very hot now and you will see a correction soon.

With a 3x leverage your risk of liquidation is low, like someone mentioned above, you would be liquidated somewhere around $40K which is far away.

Your issue will be however the funding rate. Currently it’s expensive to long bitcoin on futures or perps. You are going to lose a lot of money paying the funding alone with the 3x leverage. And if the bull market continues then the fees might get worse and worse.

My advice is just buy it on spot and sleep well at night .

I also wanted to talk about the funding rate but I thought it is not necessary, but the rate has gone higher. I saw it for bitcoin at 0.0753 on the exchange I looked at it now. The funding rate increased recently because of the increase in bitcoin price but once the market is less volatile, the funding rate will soon return back to 0.02% as usual. This will not take more than 3 days. But generally speaking I will also advice of holding on noncustodial wallet instead.

You don't invest in futures but you are trading/gambling there. If I have that 100 euroes, I'll try to grow it even better and test my trading skill patiently. I don't care how long it will be but as long as it's growing, that's what matters for me.

And when everything is fine and grown, what I'd do is I will be putting everything that I have gained into Bitcoin and if possible, I'll take that cash as remembrance and will get out of the market.

Only if I'll be able to grow that.

Risk is low but it exists and funding fee is another issue.

Additionally it will cost a trader a lot for a position that is opened a long time in Futures trading and Funding rate is not static but it is dynamically changed with demands on the market. When people are bullish, funding rate will become more expensive.

I can not disagree.

With $100, it's hard to increase it too much by investing in Bitcoin. Doubling it is possible but more than x2, I don't know if it is a Bitcoin investment and in only one cycle.

With $100, I would prefer to pick top altcoins of new trends and hold it in this bull run, it can give me x5 x10 and with a bigger capital like $1000, it is better to trading, with Spot, not with Futures or Leverages.

Leverage is used to multiply the effect of simple price movements. If the price changes by 1% per day, it is used to obtain faster profits and faster losses, but Bitcoin moves with rapid growth and using leverage means that your chance of loss has become much greater than profit due to the difficulty of anticipating the next price movement. Investing in Spot is better at the current stage and leverage is risky in traditional market conditions when the daily price movement could not be predicted.

Once I read this kind of question the first thing that pops in my head is that you have no business trading Bitcoin. Bitcoin trading is not anything anyone can wake up and decide that they would start doing. More people lose in Trading Bitcoin done in putting it in a wallet and waiting. You are in luck, invest your €100in Bitcoin and wait.

This is better than taking the risk of trading it, although it does not rule out the possibility that if you trade it you will make a profit.
I think with Bitcoin price movements almost reaching the previous ATH price considering that the halving is still several months away, putting it in your wallet and holding on until the highest price is reached would be better in my opinion.

If you choose to trade futures, it can be done with small capital. But for now holding and storing in a wallet is best.

It depends on how good you are at trading. Of course, using leverage you can get a bigger profit, but you can also lose your money if the price of the coin moves in the opposite direction to your expectations.

Futures trades are generally high risk, as you may not be set against. You keep the dollars in your wallet or convert them to bitcoins. So hold for long term here you can definitely earn profit, but no matter how many futures trades you join there is 80% chance of loss.

at time of uncertainty like this i recommend spot to be honest but if you really willing to go with future then maybe 2x leverage is enough the thing is right now many people speculating whether there gonna be some correction before the price take off again and if that happen it means that its a trap for anyone setting up position in future like you your high leverage will definitely get liquidated whenever flash dump because of correction occur.
you will need to take care of that otherwise you will just become a food for the whales, because there has been many scene where the market will suddenly dumps or pumps when there's so many contracts in future that can be liquidated due to margin call.
always remember that things can definitely go wrong and its not always smooth sailing, i mean yeah 3x leverage with bitcoin bullish could mean triple the profit but imagine the opposite scenario.
at least with spot you can be spared of the sudden liquidation and could just wait it out, after all you can't lose if you faithfully holding bitcoin.
just my opinion though definitely don't take it as a financial advice but something need to be accounted for, im holding from accumulating these days since i've accumulated enough before this recent pumps.

Your trading ability determines everything. You can get big profits by applying leverage in trading, but there is also a big risk of loss due to unpredictable movements.
If you ask which is better, like it or not, in conditions like this, the best action is to save it in your wallet and wait rather than being reckless with great desires so that the result ends in failure.

I think you should just buy some BTC and put it in your wallet rather than future trading. The market is so unpredictable nowadays due to the ongoing wars and crisis in the middle east and Europe Bitcoin halving is also close and probably happen in april. The market is not suitable for future trading and there are more chances of failure in investments.I don't prefer future trading either on normal days because you don't need to take that much of risk.

Just make yourself in comfort with small profits so that you can neglect the losses and build up your portfolio slowly and professionally.Itll also help you gain a lot of knowledge in crypto. After having sufficient knowledge of the investments you'll do due to experience it'll come out richer than you'll expect.

My take on this is as follows: investing in BTC futures with 3x 5x 10x leverage entails a high level of risk due to the possibility of liquidation. At the same time, holding BTC in a wallet is a safer option, albeit less profitable. Considering the upward trend in Bitcoin's dynamics, it's probably better to wait before making a final decision. The decision depends on your comfort level with risk and investment goals.

I have learnt it in hard way and even the most tenured traders would say don't leverage anything more than 2x especially during these times because it would be too risky I used to do 5x to 10x for Bitcoin earlier as we don't often see much fluctuations like a drop of 10% or 20% in a day for Bitcoin and I used 5x as well as 10x leverage based of this theory but I lost it all when there was a sudden dump and then started understand more about futures and how experienced traders play around and they don't exceed 2X leverage. Stick to 2x and anything above this would be risky. This is my side of strategy not necessary that everyone would align on this.

If you have not tried to own bitcoin at all for 2 years, there is nothing wrong with you buying by means of dca, bitcoin which in my opinion is suitable in all weather means that you can buy without hesitation disappointed in its hystory.

Talking about leverage you say that you have fun in trading instruments? there is nothing wrong with that, but your chances of losing because of analysis greetings are also potentially of a magnitude that may be greater, leverage is like you borrow capital so that you get more profit when your analysis is correct, this is just an alternative. We know that cex happens a lot with all the possibilities, although there are still those who still survive until now.

You put 100 euros in bitcoin? it depends on your bias, if you want to adopt long-term bitcoin is certainly very possible, but if you want to get a good return from the bear market you can do regular dca, you can convert from capital compared to the current bitcoin price, you can calculate your portfolio.

There is a fair amount of risk involved.  The higher the leverage, the higher the risk.  Trading is a difficult task and it is also very risky.  One should not engage in trading without knowing well about trading.  And if you are science then you should think thousand times before investing.  E-trade after knowing.  Achieving success in trading requires a long-term effort.  What you are going to do is high risk and you can lose all your money anytime. So do it carefully.

3x, 5x, 10x whatever you call futures trading I think is very risky. Because if you have no experience in the market then you can lose your money in any way at any moment. In this case I can advise you to make your 100 euro bitcoins and keep it in your wallet if you keep your 100 euro in your wallet then I think you can get good returns from here and also if you go to futures trading you will definitely lose it is 100% sure. Because so far I haven't met a person who hasn't lost from futures trading.

nah waiting too much in this case will miss the opportunity of having good increase, but the thing is, bitcoin already rising high, at some point it will have correction or at least i believe so, i reckon the increase will not just smooth sailing in the future, therefore having position of future with high leverage might be risky but lets be honest, back before bitcoin pumping some weeks ago if not month, its also seemed risky to do future with high leverage but see those people that just go on entrying at previous floor, they are having good profit right now.
one thing need to know for OP, future with high leverage means you are more vulnerable towards price swing, if youre not so sure, how about sit back and decrease that leverage rate, at least to 2x maybe, so that price swing won't cause you harm or at least the insignificant ones, decrease that leverage and then you're good to go.

if i were you though i would just trade spot, buy bitcoin as much as I can, we all know its calm before the storm and this storm that im talking about is the massive bullrun thats about to come.
maybe spot trading will be better for you.

Right now for a new trader, its crazy to trade futures. Even if its low leverage. Reason being is that the funding rate is crazy high.

At the moment its almost 100% APR for annual. But everyday its 0.25%. So if someone goes 10x long and holds the position for 4 days. They are pretty much out 10% of their maintaince margin. Because its 1% for 4 days in funding and at 10x leverage its 10 times as high. Its a receipt for disaster. Not recommended at all. Stay with spot.

This is why I am not going to be surprised if we get some liquidation event soon because there is too much leverage in the crypto markets.

Doing trading without having knowledge about this is of course very risky, even those who have a lot of experience in trading are still at risk of experiencing losses on the trades they make, especially those who don't have the slightest experience or knowledge about trading, of course they should avoid doing so. trading, you are right, we could lose the money we have if we don't carry out the trades we make carefully.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

It is simple.

Bitcoin price at $60000 and you open 3x long position.

$60000 ÷ 3 = $20000

$60000 - $20000 = $40000 which is the liquidation price.

There would be a slight difference on the exchange and that is how exchanges are. You can see the liquidation price slightly closer but of very little difference from your calculation. On some exchanges, the liquidation price may be slightly be farther because the exchange keep some money for you instead of using all to open a position.

Future trading is full of nothing than risk, this does not only ends there, but we are on the chance of loosing the entire investment if liquidated, i don't think we should go for such as we cannot afford to miss the fund we have earned to use for trading, even though we are having other alternatives, taking risk on what can completely take away our fund is part of what some people have used against trading by the way they termed it the same as gambling.

Waa, this is risky enough, for me, I am not taking this high risk. But not really sure with the OP.

In fact, if the OP wants to utilize or optimize his €100, why should he choose to do it in Future trading? Isn't it true that with this, the risk of losing it could be higher? Indeed, maybe you will also get high profits, but if you don't understand the tactics, this will actually endanger your money.

So, wouldn't it be better if you wanted to save that €100, it would be better if you bought Bitcoin and held the BTC until at least the next bullish era? Is not it?

Ok thank you very much

I think that Oshosondy gave the wrong calculation and, accordingly, may mislead you. Look at how the support of the Binance exchange explains such a question to "How to Calculate Margin Liquidation Price", as an example, x3 leverage is used there, exactly what you are interested in - https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-calculate-margin-liquidation-price-f6b010588e55413aa58b7d63ee0125ed

I am wrong? Okay let us assume that I am wrong. If bitcoin is at $60000 and you go 3x leverage to open a long position, what price would be the liquidation price? You can not say that I am wrong if you do not give the answer. Give the answer in bitcoin price with prove and not just refer to any article.

Already bitcoin is over 65 thousand 64 thousand dollars and a hundred doesn't matter other than that I think currently because 15 thousand dollars in 2022.  Sixteen thousand dollars came to that.  Currently saying four times the probability you are saying three sisters is four times if maybe three hours doesn't matter then it could be 100k dollars.  But we all have to be aware that you are training those who are investing on bitcoin, you must not go to make much profit here because the market can go down at any time and it can go up at any time, no one can tell where the market will go. Your digital currency is the stock market.  You must depend on the fact that no one can tell when the stock market will go where.  But I can say from my personal experience that Bitcoin will come at a time when a hundred thousand dollars won't seem like anything to it when it can become 100k dollars.

Bitcoin futures trading is much safer than other coins so if you want to invest with a lot of leverage then this investment may be right for you and you can move forward. If you invest at 3x leverage right now, even if the market is dumping, you will not liquidate because the market will have to go down a lot for your liquidation, but the chances of this happening are low. Relatively more risk must be taken to make higher profits. You can definitely invest in this plan if you can take the risk of your money and you can maintain your investment by fixing a specific target.

OP can open a trade and can have a stop loss before the liquidation price if they want to have less risk and have lesser loss just in case Bitcoin goes down that deeply.

Another thing is it depends on the trader's risk tolerance and way of trading because for example the risk-reward ratio and how much profit that OP wants.

Many investors that took such risk in the past later discovered that they made a good decision, which you can take that risk now to invest in Bitcoin and you will enjoy the Bitcoin safer in your investment that will give you more courage to invest whenever the bearish season appear in the market. The most important in your risk, is to ensure you invest your money in the most top cryptocurrencies in the market and it will give you a huge amount of income that will increase your wealth in the future. I know is not easy to take a heavy risk like this, but there is a gain to every risk you are taking in the time of bearish season to invest and you will receive a good results at the end of your investment.

If you are a newbie then I think trading will be too risky for you. As a beginner you should acquire a lot of knowledge about the trade. Because trading is very risky as a result of which you can suffer a lot financially. So first get proper knowledge about the trade and keep learning. The cryptocurrency market is very diverse. So don't trade on emotion alone.  As a result, you may be very disappointed.  On the other hand, you can invest as much money as you can afford in Bitcoin And if you can hold it then it will be seen that you can earn a good amount of profit at one time. So it is better and wiser not to lean towards your trading in the beginning.

if the capital is only 100dollars, there are not many choices. because if you trade on the spot, the profit you get is also definitely small. yes, if you want a lot of results, yes in the future but yes the risk is great. other options can trade on the forex market using metatrader 4 there is also a crypto market including bitcoin.

One thing about investment, is that it has to do with risk and if you don't take time the risk will take you to the positive side or negative side of investment, so I understand that cryptocurrency investment have to do with timing, right if you invest in bitcoin you are not at lost, because the price of bitcoin is on constant acceleration, but we are not fully sure of skyrocket of it's movement via price...so investment have target and you can invest now probably you maybe opportune to make profit for your investment.

The thing is that the market of cryptocurrency at this point is flourishing to a point nobody knows what will be the next step of cryptocurrency, so I believe that bitcoin bitcoin has taken another dimensions, and if time is not take the price may reach seventy thousand, so therefore the price of bitcoin is unpredictable.

This is the reason why futures trading is not recommended for inexperienced traders. One first needs to gain enough knowledge about the market, and then start trading with minimal risk assets in the spot market to gain some experience about trading and the market in general. After that, they should start learning about futures trading, once they learn everything, if they feel they are ready to venture into it, they should do it.

One should only start trading in the futures market if they understand all the risks and know that they can manage those risks and wouldn't be losing all their money in it. If they couldn't manage the risks, they are going to lose their capital in no time at all.

I am sure that you did not even open the link that I indicated earlier, otherwise you would have realized that the formula of calculating the liquidation price is different from the one that you use) If the initial balance is $100, and you have opened a long position with x3 leverage, at a price of $60,000, then the liquidation price will be $44,000. To simplify the calculation, you can use a calculator - https://www.binance.com/en/margin/calculator

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If the investor is interested in futures trading in any other coin in the market then I would probably not do it because all the other coins in the market can't be trusted much especially for long term futures canning. But OP wants to invest in Bitcoin here and with relatively low risk, I think this decision is right for him and he is taking a very small amount of risk which means less chance of losing money. What little risk remains in investing must be risk because without risk there is no chance of making money. We have to take risks, but before taking risks we must see if we are taking risks in the right place and how much. Because it will never be safe to take such a risk that the money is likely to be lost at any time.

Why will I check it when I know what I am saying. I have traded many coins and tokens and calculating the estimated liquidation price myself. That my calculation is correct.

I prefer to go practical with real trading and not just make use of any calculator. I know that calculator is existing on Binanace but I have not used it before. I changed back from multi asset mode just to single asset mode just to proof a point that this is wrong. Also you can go to my previous posts and read it again and see how I am very correct after you check the correct calculation from my image below.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/05/yRSi9.jpeg

You can see the price that I set which is $60000. You can see the estimated liquidation price which is $39605.2. Not $44000.

You may use exchanges calculation, but what I am saying is correct.


I will like you to read what I posted above because some exchanges also will calculate the liquidation price for you automatically while input the amount of your asset that you want to use to trade. By that my calculation can be helpful and it is simple.

It is not a good idea to get into futures because you're even having the impression that you're an investor upon doing that. It's not how it goes and someone who's not yet knowledgeable on doing it will be liquidated quickly. You'll just get those notice on your phone and email that your position have been liquidated and that's why if you can't afford to lose that so quick like in a span of a few seconds and minutes, you stick to your plans of holding or with the spot market.

Yes profit is depend on your capital, 100 dollars is nothing in spot trading or future trading and even in the forex trading. Without experienced trading is not recommended by me, even i don't prefer in spot trading. Future trading isn't for everyone, it's for experienced people's who are trading for many years.

Your supposed to be happy for what you got for a start and agreeing on the past takes more than one. The future is off limit so far.

I believe you would be so much happier if you spend the 100 EURO and not have that for a distraction.

Cheers! Buy something you intend to keep forever and get that part over with while your at it.

It is difficult for us to establish the truth in absentia, but according to the screenshot, you open a position not for $300, as required by the OP, but for $180. And accordingly, for this reason, the liquidation price will have a different meaning. I myself cannot demonstrate such a screenshot, since I have open positions on derivatives and the margin exceeds that of the OP.

No, it does not have any different changes because of the amount you use to open the position or not. If you open a position with $50, $100 or any amount of money, the liquidation price will still be the same as long s you open it at the same price and using the same leverage.

I would say in regards to this situation, we can't really make futures if we are not really good at it. Some people here has shown what they have done, and those people know what the yare doing and aware of the details of it as well, from liquidation to every little small thing.

However, if we are not sure about it, like OP seems to be, then it would probably mean that it would be better if we just buy bitcoin and hold, and do nothing else. Sure that may not make you rich with just hundred bucks, but that also doesn't mean that you should risk even more. I can see that it is not that easy, but it would not be all that difficult neither to just hold. Just try to put more and more money in it while you wait, and maybe even keep doing that later on as well.

It depends on you and what you want otherwise putting it in a wallet is much far more better than that, putting in wallet as investment gives you more peace of heart and you would feel relaxed provided that you have the access to the wallet and store you seed phrase carefully then nothing to worry. But in future trading there is every possibility to lose it entirely without you counting about the money and will be gone.
Therefore, in my opinion I will advise you to go buy bitcoin and some reputable coin such as ETH, BNB TRX, DOGE and save the wait after halving till 2025 then you will never regret doing that.

If you advise only futures trading then I think you can advise him futures trading in bitcoin and small amount futures trading in ethereum. All other coins are not safe at all for futures trading and if the investor thinks that he will hold his futures trading for a long time then only Bitcoin will be safe for him. Bitcoin's market fluctuates within certain rules, not pumping up and dumping suddenly like other coins. Since there is not much volatility in the Bitcoin market, investors can trade Bitcoin futures with relatively low risk and continue their business for a long time.

If you are a newbie in this market, better not to go to futures yet. Be familiar with spot trading first and learn the ropes of crypto trading. It is quite to easy to liquidate your position if you don't know what you are getting into.

Futures are only for traders that have long been in this market already. Because if you don't know how a certain alt or coin performs in the market, which you need a lot of factors to consider about, you can easily lose your position without a doubt. And if you can't keep up with the market, better not to divulge yourself in that trading. Just go to the trading market which you are more comfortable of and more knowledgeable with.

Futures trade is very risky as this is where you can face losses the most. I've had zero liquidation on futures trades many times, so it's best to keep your bitcoins in a wallet. Because you can reap the benefits risk-free. Current Bitcoin prices are on the rise so having a wallet in your wallet is the safest and most profitable.

What newbies use to do on exchanges first is to know how they can be able to convert from stable coins like USDT or USCC to unstable coins like bitcoin and vice versa and that is spot trading. So no matter what, newbies would have likely know spot trading. You are not wrong by saying that liquidation is common to traders, but read what I also posted below.

Future trading is very risky, but not as risky as it seems than spot trading the trader is nit greedy. The risk that many traders face is because they are not having a good strategy for risk management and they prefer to go for leverage. Newbies are often tempted to use 10x or more leverage. I remember when I started to trade futures, I prefer to use 125x for bitcoin but which is greediness and foolishness, unlike now that I just go for 1x leverage. If a trader is using averaging and also not using more than 1x leverage, it is better.

If OP takes a risk to trading futures, it means he is willing to lose 100 Euros for a chance at a bigger reward if he is lucky. The exchange being hacked is not a concern here.

When the bull market started, many people came up with the idea of using low leverage to avoid liquidation in futures trading. But I think this will not be effective because the fluctuations during the bull season will not be small, for example recently, after bitcoin touched 69k USD, it then decreased in price by more than 10k USD to 59k$. That shows that even if we use low leverage, there is still a risk of liquidation if the bitcoin price continues to be more volatile during the bull season.

Actually many responds not recommended well with future is the best place for investing in bitcoin, but I think is the best ideas with holding bitcoin using future trading way and using leverage 3x. Can comparison when bitcoin success raise up around 10% we can earn more than 30% profitable by using future for holding or investing in bitcoin, but get difficult how to minimize with funding fees each exchange future have bigger funding fees every eight hours.
You can invest your bitcoin and put it in future trading around 3x leverage I don't think its too risk and much profitable earn than hold bitcoin in spot with 1x profitable maximum earn only.
Need to prepare bigger amount if you want invest bitcoin in trading future how to protect far away with liquidity and prepare around $50 for funding fees if you want hold bitcoin in future more longer time.

I got some knowledge after reading this the future is the most important thing that you need to understand and know the clarity on how you think it will look like it may not really be as you think, but that must be a step that you must take to make a better future for yourself of course proceed in investing bitcoin for the future no matter the amount you want to buy and the quantity by you we definitely see some losses when Bitcoin Falls but don’t hesitate,Don’t be afraid you will get more profit as long as you mindset  is in the future not just taking profit immediately after investing  it will be a good one and keep in the future my set

if you put your money in futures, it's not an investment, but it's trading, because even if you put the lowest possible leverage, there will still be the potential for a margin call. so it depends on you now, whether you are ready to risk €100 into the futures market, if you are ready then go ahead and put your money in futures trading. however, if you are not ready to lose that money, you can invest your money in the spot market, because whatever the price of bitcoin, as long as you don't sell it, you won't make a loss.

I know that if you invest such money in BTC and look for solid wallet like electrum to stock the BTC for long period of time, you will have every reason to take such decision another time which you can see by yourself what is happening in this bull market that is changing traders story with the huge amount of money they are making from their trading.

If you make spot market where you can stock the money as your choice, nobody will force you against your wish because, if you lost or gain , you Will not going to share the lost or gain with anybody but make your choice wisely with that amount of money.

It depends on the skills you have and if you have good trading skills then there are times when trying your luck at small profits is the right choice and you can repeat several times to make a profit. There is a risk in what you do, but you must also have a way to minimize this risk to a smaller one.

That means you will make an investment and the concept is more about holding for the long term and if this is the choice then you also have to have a way to continue to increase the amount of asset ownership. Because if you just wait for the amount you mean then the investment will not be optimal. The decisions you take must have long-term prospects and there are several ways you can reliably do so that assets can continue to increase slowly.

I would be very careful when it comes to futures investing at the moment. The Bitcoin price just recently reached a new ATH and the volatility is quite high in the market. With a 3x leverage the risk of getting knocked out is quite, especially if your investment is only 100 USD. Do you have enough capital behind to cover losses and not be forced to liquidate? In case this is your only capital I would recommend you stick to the spot market. With a direct bitcoin investment you don't have to worry about get liquidated when prices are falling. You can just hold your coins long term and wait for prices to recover again. The only issue is that transaction cost are quite high at the moment, which makes small size trading not so profitable.

Small leverage will earn small profitable but bit secure from liquidation, so far some time when trade on future I used under x10 leverage with capital not too huge around $300 to $500. Have to be careful when trading in the future behind not greedy use large until maximum leverage we need have back up fund and not use all for future margin.
Always spending around $100 to $200 for recovery fund to make liquidation keep far away and not easily get warning liquidation margin call when wrong prediction.
Need to prepare mentality when trading in future, weakness mentality is not good way in future trading with risk potential loss the capital and better trade on spot trading only although price drop drastically the capital keep existing with lower or decreasing values waiting for price recover back.

If you put that $100  in futures, that means you know something about cryptocurrency trading. Is the question right in my mind that you know anything about futures trading OP? Because if your answer is yes, then go and put your $100 in futures.

But if you don't know anything about crypto trading and you want to enter futures trading, I suggest that it's better not to put your $100 in futures; instead, buy Bitcoin and then hold it in a spot, electrum, or hardware wallet, depending on your choice.

You can invest as much as you can and it will be more profitable for you because bitcoin is going higher beyond what we can even imagine, I’m seeing bitcoin hitting 200k, I don’t know the exact time but I know it won’t be more than 2 years plus, let focus on the future of bitcoin

What ?

Like really have you scanned the post before making a reply on it, or just made a random reply, to fill the post quota, weird bro like Really you are not a newbie, SR is a well-reputed rank, you should think and read before making a post, its not a speculation thread, OP is really curious about his question and you are giving him a wrong direction but why?

Are you a financial advisor how can you be so sure about it, what if your wrong suggestion can put OP in a big mess, always be careful while guiding others because you always need to explain to everyone your own perspective and an honest suggestion with a DYOR disclaimer. He's asking about futures trading an you are speculating future of Bitcoin nd on the same time advising him something based on just twitter news and influencer's blind spot predictions. Make sure to be careful while giving suggestion next time.

Yes, bro, it's better to take the safe path than to take the high-risk path, investment for the future is very necessary so that in the future we don't get confused about our economy, like now with very high inflation making people scream about what they are saying. has happened now, then we have to take the path to invest for the future, that way we will be easier and more organized in the future, we can also take long-term investment in bitcoin, because we can minimize losses and profits, we sell at the price high and buy at low prices within a certain period and time range.

well to be honest if we try future and just decide to use lowest leverage ever then I guess we better off settle with spot trading instead.
its too much risk for a rather small profit to use future with lower leverage even though many people condone the use of just 1x leverage and thats it for the sake of safety but in my opinion we just better off using spot trading.
if its 3x like OP have mentioned it does still make sense, but know that with future trading once money is gone its gone, we're trying to stake our money on the margin, but it does have high return profile at the end of the day that many people are looking for.
its better if we can just adjust the capital at stake then increase leverage, even though arguably its the same profit using 3x leverage, but our money won't get drained in one go.
just to know the hang of using future trading with high leverage.

No time is bad to trade your futures and margin markets, it all depends on you, especially on your preparedness in areas like speculation and management. Trading is always active whether we like it or not, but if it is a long-term buying and holding you are looking for, well, based on my experience, this is not the right time. The right time was the time the market was still very low. Those are the times the market was trying to change its trend, which was around late 2002 and early 2023.

If you had planned your trade well then and opened the trade, then it would have been good for you as you would have made money conveniently and might still be holding your buy position. What I do in such a situation is to look for the right support and resistance level to locate my stop loss while I buy the market. That stop loss will be very tight should in case my speculation is wrong. This is often done on either the 4H chart or on the 1D chart and it has been very productive.

Besides, you should use the risk-taking rather than the leverage, the leverage calculation often confuses as with 3x leverage, you can choose many risks unless you are referring to the maximum risk permissible by it, try to be specific next time. In all, if you use the leverage at the full stretch, then you might still get liquidated soon enough as €100 is little to plan such a trade with Bitcoin.

Personally, its not bad ideas when holding bitcoin in future trading with small leverage around x3 but you need to see how much funding fees have to pay because make long term investment of bitcoin. Actually one side is more profitable because has potential reach up to x3 when bitcoin price increasing than holding with spot only but each market of future trading get bigger fees funding fees cut off every eight hours. I used Binance only for future trading and I think get bigger funding fees have to pay, if you have other exchange market with lower fees its worth for long term holding bitcoin in future market by using leverage x3.
But keep prepare with margin funding how to protect with bad thing when bitcoin price suddenly decreasing, I got some future trader with leverage x3 liquidation by holding Pepe coins.

I am sure that you want to open a Bitcoin futures position with 3x leverage to be able to get more profit if the Bitcoin price is above your position. That's actually not a bad idea, but only if your capital is quite a lot, if it's only a little like that I think that it's not a good idea to put your money in futures with 3x leverage, because when the price of Bitcoin drops your capital will run out faster. So I suggest that you should buy Bitcoin with this money and save it in your wallet. It's true that the profit you get is smaller, but at least the risk is much lower than if you put it in futures.

Future trading is one of the most risky trading features, there is a lot of money risk here, but if future trading is done in Bitcoin and leverage is relatively low, then it is possible to expect profit from here. Bitcoin market is not very excited and Bitcoin market fluctuates naturally, we who invest in Bitcoin can increase the amount of risk from investment by 3x leverage or less but do futures trading. However, this should not be taken for granted if the investor feels that he can take this risk, then he can trade bitcoin futures. We do not advise this because futures trading involves a lot of financial risk and not everyone can take this risk.

€100 for now is pretty good. I think it's better to just trade the spot or invest everything without trading and wait for the value of your asset to rise and then you sell it again. If you play Futures Now, chances are that you lose a lot because the situation is very easy to change.

I think your last point is the best to do and the results will be maximum if you can last up to 3 months if you can't afford 1 year.

If he assumes to be a trader, he can invest into those newly listed coins while liquidity is still quite high. He can check them out and see what will happen in a week.
He has to make sure that he gets to profit 5%-10% and get out of once he's done and repeat the process. Sounds easy but it's not actually is.

Since we have the higher percentage chance for the to move upwards because of the increasing demand,  sure you will earn more money longing with 3x leverage and your risk level is low with 3x leverage on Bitcoin with €100 , but to me the best way to go about this, is trading Bitcoin to get more BTC , this way your are holding Bitcoin and profit will be in BTC, that is you not just only gain from your €100 worth of Bitcoin and have it increased but also your profit increases as the value of BTC increase.

There's more than meets the eyes when it comes to trading, especially with futures. I understand a lot of newcomers want to jump in with futures for the hope of multiple profits, but if you are not well-versed on what you are doing, you can easily get liquidated. Better start with spot trading and see if trading is really for you. Spot trading alone is already tedious as you need to observe and study the market you are going into. It is not a rocket science, but diligence is needed in this market. You can't face the battle without any knowledge here.

Those that are thinking that they can make a lot of money with futures, no one is going to stop them.
But they need to be reminded that only experienced traders are the ones that earns from it. Compared to the typical setup of investors turned to a trader, they only sell when they're in profit and in spot, it's easier than with leverage.

If OP has time and active with the market can go to the futures with just low leverage but again there's a fee on it in too much holding your position of course, but if OP doesn't have any time to watch all day the market like we are seeing right now the market is going into a bull run movement he can make a hold until the next all-time high. Futures still take a basic understanding and knowledge to make a trade with the help of technical indicators and technical analysis as a guide for your position. Always use the basic TP/SL as your security to yourself to prevent burn your asset.

      The answer to your question is very basic: if you do not know anything about futures or trading, do not enter futures trading because it is very complicated. It is better to start with spot trading first. Many newbies try futures right away and end up wrecked.

      Because most newbies are stubborn, they think that their narratives are right for immediately entering the future. Investors who think of making a lot of money immediately or getting rich in a short span of time have a wrong mindset.

Trading futures has a higher risk than traditional trading. If we take the wrong position, we can be sure that the money we use for trading futures will be lost. So when we don't have much time to always monitor the exchange, don't ever trade futures. We recommend using traditional trading to be safer.

Yeah, it is not about the time but about how you are dealing with the situation. Some people find it quite well and some people find it not so great. I think it is clear that we are going to end up with a good result if we are a good trader and bad result if we are a bad trader, that seems like the most likely situation in the end.

Of course that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a greater result just because we are a good trader or terrible if we are a bad trader, sometimes luck happens and if you are unlucky then you lose no matter how good you are or you win no matter how bad you are if you end up being lucky. The overall result still depends on how well you are as a trader though, so it is not about timing at all.

it depends really if you trade spot with $100 it probably not gonna give you meaningful profit or in other word just wasting time, what make future trading so interesting is the fast paced style of investment, you profit from the margin, you also being given chance to leverage your capital at the cost of higher chance being liquidated, I think thats fair game.
if the newbie is greedy and always think too highly of their own capability even trading spot they still can caught off guard and become broke.
its all about mindset on how to better trades, future is advantegous, eventually people who trade spot gonna try future to maximize profit or get that chance of multiplying the profit.
you get advantage of profit at the cost of risk while in spot you get advantage of safety at the cost of time.
thats why knowing the basic first is always recommended, like you said, before venturing into future trading, try to understand it first.

My question to you is: do you know anything about futures trading? It's not just knowledge; you must also have deep knowledge of trading, because that's complicated if you tell me that all you know about futures trading is an idea.

Do you know how to use cross and isolate correctly? because for me the safest leverage is x2. Besides that, you should also know where the proper situation is for cross and isolated.