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Title: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: coin-investor on March 19, 2024, 06:05:39 AM
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Because of an unexpected turn of events, Thurman backed out of the fight because of an injury you can read the article here Keith Thurman out, Tim Tszyu to face Sebastian Fundora on March 30 (https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/3/18/24105112/keith-thurman-out-tim-tszyu-face-sebastian-fundora-on-march-30-boxing-news-2024)


Tim Tszyu and  Sebastian Fundora will fight for the WBC and WBO for the super welterweight title, just a heads up Fundora was beaten by a knockout by Brian Mendoza, and Brian Mendoza was beaten by Tim Tszyu by Unanimous decision.
From this we can figure out that Tszyu will be the favorite to win the fight

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The fight came together earlier today after Keith Thurman, Tszyu’s original opponent in a 155 lb contract weight bout, withdrew from the fight due to injury. Fundora was originally to face Serhii Bohachuk for the vacant WBC belt on the undercard.

Tszyu vs Fundora: WBO and WBC titles on the line (https://www.badlefthook.com/2024/3/18/24105404/tszyu-vs-fundora-wbo-wbc-titles-on-line-ppv-undercard-adds-julio-cesar-martinez-boxing-news-2024)



Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: cabron on March 19, 2024, 06:59:20 AM
Fundora is a very tall man with very long arms, this is such a sudden change of opponent for Tim.  Fundora quickly got a title shot even when he lost his last fight by a nasty KO. What a turn of events.

I can agree that he is more relevant in the division than Thurman but it was also said that whoever wins this fight will face Crawford, that's another title fight. Fundora got lucky for getting KOed. This is too short notice however so good luck to him.



Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: bisdak40 on March 19, 2024, 10:42:10 AM
Voted for Tim Tszyu to win this match via knockout as i think Sebastian Fundora's preparation for this fight is not enough as he is only the replacement fighter for Keith Thurman.

On the other hand, Keith Thurman's inability to be safe from whatever injury might cost him his career, i mean he has not fought for more than two years and now another setback, who is he going to fight if he declares himself healed from injury. Better for him to hang the gloves for good.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Jating on March 19, 2024, 11:04:10 AM
Fundora is a very tall man with very long arms, this is such a sudden change of opponent for Tim.  Fundora quickly got a title shot even when he lost his last fight by a nasty KO. What a turn of events.

I can agree that he is more relevant in the division than Thurman but it was also said that whoever wins this fight will face Crawford, that's another title fight. Fundora got lucky for getting KOed. This is too short notice however so good luck to him.

His fight with Serhii Bohachuk is also for the WBC belt as super welterweight, so in any case this is still a title fight and as far as I know, WBO and WBC are talking if they are going to push for this as a unification fight. And it's obvious that with Fundora's height and length, he had that advantage against Tim. So this is really more of a test on Tim, whether he is really build to be a champion and can unify the belt at 154 pounds as this is what the current trend for fighters for cementing their legacy.

And it's not like before during the reign of Manny wherein the mindset was to go up in weight class and annex the belt. Now it's more of a old school, although the 4 belt era is just around 80's if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: aioc on March 19, 2024, 11:17:28 AM
Fundora is a very tall man with very long arms, this is such a sudden change of opponent for Tim.  Fundora quickly got a title shot even when he lost his last fight by a nasty KO. What a turn of events.
Fundora is a promising boxer but it's very questionable why he is in a title fight when he got knocked out in his last fight, and now he is pitted against a guy who is better than the one who knocked him out, either the promoters or the organization hates Fundora, his second loss is looming, this is quite ugly for Fundora

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I can agree that he is more relevant in the division than Thurman but it was also said that whoever wins this fight will face Crawford, that's another title fight. Fundora got lucky for getting KOed. This is too short notice however so good luck to him.
He needs all the luck in the world Brian Mendoza likes to slug it out, which is why he got knocked out but Tszyu not only loves to slug it out but he packs power in both punches, Fundora is a heavy underdog here his chance is if Tszyu cannot make the right adjustment he expects a fighter at his height level now he is fighting a 6 foot 5 fighter in Fundora.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Baofeng on March 19, 2024, 11:21:06 AM
Voted for Tim Tszyu to win this match via knockout as i think Sebastian Fundora's preparation for this fight is not enough as he is only the replacement fighter for Keith Thurman.

We all know that Tim has power to knock anyone, and with this boxer as tall as Fundora, it's just a matter of time. If time touches that chin, we might see Fundora on the canvass. Fundora's chin has been broken by Brian Mendoza already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6vfb-qFzRM

He didn't know what happened to him in the canvass,  ;D

On the other hand, Keith Thurman's inability to be safe from whatever injury might cost him his career, i mean he has not fought for more than two years and now another setback, who is he going to fight if he declares himself healed from injury. Better for him to hang the gloves for good.

Yes, I think he is done already, there's no more motivation on him. He might just be going into the motions just to fight and go for the money. But it could be worst for him if he continue to fight with this kind of mentality.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: robelneo on March 19, 2024, 12:56:35 PM
Voted for Tim Tszyu to win this match via knockout as i think Sebastian Fundora's preparation for this fight is not enough as he is only the replacement fighter for Keith Thurman.
When one guy is coming from a unanimous decision win against a guy who just got knocked out on his last win and the guy who delivered that knock is the guy who was beaten unanimously by the beaten guy its so easy to decide who will be a better fighter.
I voted for Tszyu because he is just a very tough guy and I don't think that Fundora can stop that toughness, Fundora was doing great against Brian Mendoza until that left hook got in, Fundora should have the courage to get up even if his jaw was broken, but he prefers to just be counted out, not good for his caliber as a fighter.

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On the other hand, Keith Thurman's inability to be safe from whatever injury might cost him his career, i means he has not fought for more than two years and now another setback, who is he going to fight if he declares himself healed from injury. Better for him to hang the gloves for good.
I think he should stay retired, this could have been a big opportunity for him to get back in the limelight but he blew it, he is a veteran boxer he knows how to pace himself to avoid that injury, anyway, he can still come back he's not really that old at 35 years old but he needs a tune fight not from a top-level fighter like Tzsyu.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on March 19, 2024, 10:50:47 PM
I'm one of those who voted for Tim Tszyu by KO.

Fundora might be tall, but if Tim's defense is good or at least Fundora will have a hard time fighting a smaller boxer again like in the Brian Mendoza fight, Fundora's height and reach could backfire on him.

He will be very vulnerable to either left hook. As his opponent his going to target his body, and when he parry and protect it, then Tim will time it and then go for his hook. Tim's power in underrated, but if it flushed on Sebastian, it might be over.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on March 20, 2024, 03:53:29 AM
I'm one of those who voted for Tim Tszyu by KO.

Fundora might be tall, but if Tim's defense is good or at least Fundora will have a hard time fighting a smaller boxer again like in the Brian Mendoza fight, Fundora's height and reach could backfire on him.

He will be very vulnerable to either left hook. As his opponent his going to target his body, and when he parry and protect it, then Tim will time it and then go for his hook. Tim's power in underrated, but if it flushed on Sebastian, it might be over.

Same here. I voted for Tszyu by KO. I wonder why the corrupt WBC is allowing a fighter who just came from a big knockout loss given an opportunity for the vacant belt. This is bad for Fundora's career. Fundora should've been given a tune up before fighting for a high level of opponent. Tim is a smart and vicious, pretty sure he will capitalize on this opportunity.

Nonetheless, this is a much more difficult fight for Tim than the current version of Thurman. Fundora can at least give Tim problems in the early rounds.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: target on March 20, 2024, 07:15:54 AM

I did watch Fundora's highlights, he also likes slug fights despite his long-reach advantage. He was just surprised to be caught by the left of Mendoza. He was exposed to having a glass chin. Fundora even when he has so many KO wins, he doesn't really have a one-punch KO power, this could just be a fight that Tim will win.



Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: coin-investor on March 20, 2024, 03:55:52 PM

I did watch Fundora's highlights, he also likes slug fights despite his long-reach advantage. He was just surprised to be caught by the left of Mendoza. He was exposed to having a glass chin. Fundora even when he has so many KO wins, he doesn't really have a one-punch KO power, this could just be a fight that Tim will win.



For a fighter who is over 6 footer and has a long reach, slugging it out is not the way to go, he should use his height and long reach like what Tommy Hearn did in many of his fights.
Shorter boxers like Mike Tyson are the ones who should slug it out because of their short reach they have an advantage.

Fundora should change his fighting style, he should learn from boxers like Hearns, and Lennox Lewis who capitalize on their advantage, if he slugs it out against Tszyu he is going to be in big trouble, Tsyzu loves to slug it out if Fundora challenges him inside, Tszyu will go to the body and like what Mendoza did will try to deliver a hook to finish him.
I see the same finish like what Mendoza did to Fundora by Tszyu.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: aioc on March 22, 2024, 11:47:04 AM
Tim Tsyu who stands 5 ft 7 is fighting Fundora who is 6 ft 5 in height but before this fight, his father Kostya Tszyu also 5 ft 7  already fought a fighter who is also 6 footer and this was against Hugo Pineda for the International Boxing Federation World Super Lightweight Title.
The elder Tszyu knocked down Hugo Pineda three times in the 11th round to win the fight and the title.
I'm sure Tim has watched the fight and will take some note of his father's fight against Pineda here is the video of this fight.

Kostya Tszyu vs Hugo Pineda (Highlights) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQWuKPycZCM)


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Baofeng on March 26, 2024, 11:17:14 AM
Tim Tsyu who stands 5 ft 7 is fighting Fundora who is 6 ft 5 in height but before this fight, his father Kostya Tszyu also 5 ft 7  already fought a fighter who is also 6 footer and this was against Hugo Pineda for the International Boxing Federation World Super Lightweight Title.
The elder Tszyu knocked down Hugo Pineda three times in the 11th round to win the fight and the title.
I'm sure Tim has watched the fight and will take some note of his father's fight against Pineda here is the video of this fight.

Kostya Tszyu vs Hugo Pineda (Highlights) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQWuKPycZCM)

Yes, but I guess their styles is very different. Fundora's height though is very evident in the face-off.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/26/JljNN.png

But the odds doesn't change, Fundora is still a 4:1 underdog in this fight.

Tim by decision though is a attractive 5.40 as per Stake. I might go with this and hope that Fundora will last the full 12 rounds.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Natalim on March 26, 2024, 12:38:14 PM

Tim by decision though is a attractive 5.40 as per Stake. I might go with this and hope that Fundora will last the full 12 rounds.

Really? I guess I'm gonna ride with you on that one mate. Though Fundora loss via KO on his last fight, I think Tszyu is not really of a KO artist, so I believe that Fundora will try to bounce back from his previous loss and will give  Tim Tszyu a good fight. Have you also considered an upset here? I mean, Fundora has the height and the lenght, if he could use it well on his advantage, he might win via decision.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Hypnosis00 on March 26, 2024, 12:45:46 PM
The fun was ruined... I thought Thurman was up and wants to be a champion again but unable to make it for this big fight would say that he is done in boxing. Pacman ruined him and now he is getting older and having a problem in coming back. Honestly, I don't know Tim Tszyu's opponent, I bet he is not popular, so this could be another fight cherry pick by his camp for a sure win.

of course I believe that  Tim Tszyu will win, so I voted for "Tim Tszyu by KO"..


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: robelneo on March 26, 2024, 02:07:29 PM

 Have you also considered an upset here? I mean, Fundora has the height and the lenght, if he could use it well on his advantage, he might win via decision.


It's 50/50 for Fundora to get upset, he cannot take down Tzsyu with a single punch, and Tim has been known as a tough guy who can take a punch I just saw their video, and their face-off, Fundora looks intimidating with his height but his power and chin is questionable, if he sticks to his game plan of slugging out with Tim he is likely to lose.
But if he can use his jabs and height advantage he has a good chance, this is the first time Tim Tszyu is fighting a very tall guy, but this is also the first time Fundora will fight a tough fighter, he is tougher than Mendoza who beat him.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: cabron on March 26, 2024, 03:47:36 PM

Tim by decision though is a attractive 5.40 as per Stake. I might go with this and hope that Fundora will last the full 12 rounds.

Really? I guess I'm gonna ride with you on that one mate. Though Fundora loss via KO on his last fight, I think Tszyu is not really of a KO artist, so I believe that Fundora will try to bounce back from his previous loss and will give  Tim Tszyu a good fight. Have you also considered an upset here? I mean, Fundora has the height and the lenght, if he could use it well on his advantage, he might win via decision.

That guy who fought and KO Fundora is also in this event as a late replacement to fight Serhii Bohachuk.
Here's the full list of the undercard https://boxrec.com/en/event/889809
The co-main event is Rolando Romero fighting Pitbull, I guess Roly will also be KO'd this time. And Mendoza will likely win also. These 3 fights I think are good for parlay.

Fundora for an upset is gonna be hard to see, depends on what he'd do in the ring but from what we know Tszyu is a badass.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on March 26, 2024, 07:30:31 PM
The fun was ruined... I thought Thurman was up and wants to be a champion again but unable to make it for this big fight would say that he is done in boxing. Pacman ruined him and now he is getting older and having a problem in coming back. Honestly, I don't know Tim Tszyu's opponent, I bet he is not popular, so this could be another fight cherry pick by his camp for a sure win.

That's what everyone believed, so I agree, Manny Pacquiao has ruined Keith Thurman. Although there are pictures of him having a shoulder support or something. He is a rank boxer, Fundora has a fight with someone as the undercard.

And it's also for the interim belt and so this fight will be for the WBO and WBC belt now. Fundora is very tall but I think that is the only advantage he has. Tszyu is the well rounded of the two and he has the tools to score a knockout victory here.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: robelneo on March 26, 2024, 11:51:11 PM
Three days before the fight and this is the result of the poll here only 7 votes but I believe these are expert views of members here I'm not very expert when it comes to analysis but this is easy to analyze I have Tim winning by knock out, if Brian Mendoza has done it why not Tim who's a very skilled fighter in every angle.
Fundora's only loss is so ugly that it reflects his lack of tough character allowing himself to be counted out while down on the floor when he can get up and find a way out.


Tim Tszyu by KO   - 7 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 7


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 26, 2024, 11:59:34 PM
The fun was ruined... I thought Thurman was up and wants to be a champion again but unable to make it for this big fight would say that he is done in boxing. Pacman ruined him and now he is getting older and having a problem in coming back. Honestly, I don't know Tim Tszyu's opponent, I bet he is not popular, so this could be another fight cherry pick by his camp for a sure win.

That's what everyone believed, so I agree, Manny Pacquiao has ruined Keith Thurman. Although there are pictures of him having a shoulder support or something. He is a rank boxer, Fundora has a fight with someone as the undercard.

And it's also for the interim belt and so this fight will be for the WBO and WBC belt now. Fundora is very tall but I think that is the only advantage he has. Tszyu is the well rounded of the two and he has the tools to score a knockout victory here.


Thurman has very good potential after Pacquiao's fight. But he paused his boxing career afterwards, so it was not Pac's fault why his boxing career got a hold up. Anyway, every boxer have their own journey in this sports. It is up to them how they will take advantage of the opportunity and move forward after the loss. Pacquiao got also his share of loss in his career but he never gave up and made an impact in this sports.

Have you also considered an upset here? I mean, Fundora has the height and the lenght, if he could use it well on his advantage, he might win via decision.


It's 50/50 for Fundora to get upset, he cannot take down Tzsyu with a single punch, and Tim has been known as a tough guy who can take a punch I just saw their video, and their face-off, Fundora looks intimidating with his height but his power and chin is questionable, if he sticks to his game plan of slugging out with Tim he is likely to lose.
But if he can use his jabs and height advantage he has a good chance, this is the first time Tim Tszyu is fighting a very tall guy, but this is also the first time Fundora will fight a tough fighter, he is tougher than Mendoza who beat him.

With the poll results, a lot are indeed rooting for Tzsyu here. An upset is less likely to be seen but it can very well end up as an upset as there are several advantages for Fundora here.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Yogee on March 27, 2024, 12:27:52 AM
I can already see Tim pounding that thin body before going for the sweet chin and there's nothing his opponent could do. An ordinary observer would probably think Sebastian have all the advantage here but we've already seen many tall boxers fall with just one shot.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Dave1 on March 27, 2024, 03:26:11 AM
I can already see Tim pounding that thin body before going for the sweet chin and there's nothing his opponent could do. An ordinary observer would probably think Sebastian have all the advantage here but we've already seen many tall boxers fall with just one shot.

So true, at 6'5, his body will be exposed and it will be an easy target for Tim as he will have like the first couple of rounds to used that strategy and see how Fundora will react. And as we have said, Fundora's previous opponent, Brian Mendoza had the same tactics and it works as Fundora was knockout cold.

So Tim has the pattern to follow already on how to beat Fundora. And Sebastian can't really do anything about it, if he will cover his body then Tim will target his weak chin. Not saying that we can't pull an upset, but his chances are very low.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Natalim on March 27, 2024, 11:13:42 AM

 Have you also considered an upset here? I mean, Fundora has the height and the lenght, if he could use it well on his advantage, he might win via decision.


It's 50/50 for Fundora to get upset, he cannot take down Tzsyu with a single punch, and Tim has been known as a tough guy who can take a punch I just saw their video, and their face-off, Fundora looks intimidating with his height but his power and chin is questionable, if he sticks to his game plan of slugging out with Tim he is likely to lose.
But if he can use his jabs and height advantage he has a good chance, this is the first time Tim Tszyu is fighting a very tall guy, but this is also the first time Fundora will fight a tough fighter, he is tougher than Mendoza who beat him.

There it is, "he can't take Tszyu down", that's why he need to be smart and use his advantage. I think Tszyu is not so quick, so if Fundora will be able to figure out how to use his lenght, I won't be surprise that he'll get this win after the end of 12 round. The odds are very attractive, this is worth a shot IMO, just a small bet and we will be fine even if we lose.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: TopTort777 on March 27, 2024, 12:14:23 PM
There it is, "he can't take Tszyu down", that's why he need to be smart and use his advantage. I think Tszyu is not so quick, so if Fundora will be able to figure out how to use his lenght, I won't be surprise that he'll get this win after the end of 12 round. The odds are very attractive, this is worth a shot IMO, just a small bet and we will be fine even if we lose.

I dont know why, but tall people always lose to a much smaller guys in coordination. If Tszyu is not so quick, then Fundora is even slower. That reach advantage can be turned into a disadvantage. With a combination of being tall, long reach leaves more open body. Even if Tims body punches does not do much damage, these accented punches works well for statistics and point in rounds. Dont forget, that got knocked down not only by a punch to a face, but a good punch to a liver also can finish fight early.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Natalim on March 27, 2024, 12:24:50 PM
There it is, "he can't take Tszyu down", that's why he need to be smart and use his advantage. I think Tszyu is not so quick, so if Fundora will be able to figure out how to use his lenght, I won't be surprise that he'll get this win after the end of 12 round. The odds are very attractive, this is worth a shot IMO, just a small bet and we will be fine even if we lose.

I dont know why, but tall people always lose to a much smaller guys in coordination. If Tszyu is not so quick, then Fundora is even slower. That reach advantage can be turned into a disadvantage. With a combination of being tall, long reach leaves more open body. Even if Tims body punches does not do much damage, these accented punches works well for statistics and point in rounds. Dont forget, that got knocked down not only by a punch to a face, but a good punch to a liver also can finish fight early.

That could happen in favor of Tim Tszyu, but upon looking at the record of Fundora, he also had some impressive wins, and via KO. Here, he should maintain his distance as he can't afford to get hit in the body that might result to him losing the stamina if he'll not be KO in one punch. I don't know, but I have a feeling that Tim Tszyu will struggle a bit here as I have not seen him fight a tall boxer like Fundora. If he could follow Canelo's style then maybe he'll win as Canelo is so good when his opponent is very tall.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: target on March 27, 2024, 01:55:09 PM
There it is, "he can't take Tszyu down", that's why he need to be smart and use his advantage. I think Tszyu is not so quick, so if Fundora will be able to figure out how to use his lenght, I won't be surprise that he'll get this win after the end of 12 round. The odds are very attractive, this is worth a shot IMO, just a small bet and we will be fine even if we lose.

I dont know why, but tall people always lose to a much smaller guys in coordination. If Tszyu is not so quick, then Fundora is even slower. That reach advantage can be turned into a disadvantage. With a combination of being tall, long reach leaves more open body. Even if Tims body punches does not do much damage, these accented punches works well for statistics and point in rounds. Dont forget, that got knocked down not only by a punch to a face, but a good punch to a liver also can finish fight early.

That could happen in favor of Tim Tszyu, but upon looking at the record of Fundora, he also had some impressive wins, and via KO. Here, he should maintain his distance as he can't afford to get hit in the body that might result to him losing the stamina if he'll not be KO in one punch. I don't know, but I have a feeling that Tim Tszyu will struggle a bit here as I have not seen him fight a tall boxer like Fundora. If he could follow Canelo's style then maybe he'll win as Canelo is so good when his opponent is very tall.

Fundora has to throw a solid combo or about 3 to 4 shots to get this done and make the big win. But the way to escape Tim is with better movement from a distance, if he can't do this then Tim will be able to hit him hard. Tall guys like him are too lanky to have a better balance in their footwork. He will eventually be cornered.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Jating on March 27, 2024, 03:15:23 PM
There it is, "he can't take Tszyu down", that's why he need to be smart and use his advantage. I think Tszyu is not so quick, so if Fundora will be able to figure out how to use his lenght, I won't be surprise that he'll get this win after the end of 12 round. The odds are very attractive, this is worth a shot IMO, just a small bet and we will be fine even if we lose.

I dont know why, but tall people always lose to a much smaller guys in coordination. If Tszyu is not so quick, then Fundora is even slower. That reach advantage can be turned into a disadvantage. With a combination of being tall, long reach leaves more open body. Even if Tims body punches does not do much damage, these accented punches works well for statistics and point in rounds. Dont forget, that got knocked down not only by a punch to a face, but a good punch to a liver also can finish fight early.

That could happen in favor of Tim Tszyu, but upon looking at the record of Fundora, he also had some impressive wins, and via KO. Here, he should maintain his distance as he can't afford to get hit in the body that might result to him losing the stamina if he'll not be KO in one punch. I don't know, but I have a feeling that Tim Tszyu will struggle a bit here as I have not seen him fight a tall boxer like Fundora. If he could follow Canelo's style then maybe he'll win as Canelo is so good when his opponent is very tall.

But Tim is also known to be a pressure fighter, So Fundora might be successful early with his jab to push Tim away. But that relentless pressure will be too much for him. Again, against Mendoza, Fundora also did that but in them middle round he was caught and get knockout.

So in any case, this is really the definition of style makes fight. And that's why Tim is a huge favorite going into this fight. Just imagining Tim hitting that perfectly liver shot, I don't think that any boxer can recover if you are hit in the perfect spot.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Baofeng on March 27, 2024, 03:23:52 PM
And it was reported that the winner of this fight will face at least for the WBO belt Terrence Crawford.

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“based on Crawford’s merits as a three-division WBO world champion and two-division undisputed champion,” Valcarcel said, “we will allow him to enter the ring and participate as WBO welterweight champion against the winner of Tszyu versus Fundora.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-retain-wbo-welterweight-title-ahead-junior-middleweight-title-tilt--182400

And Crawford will not be stripped of his WBO welterweight at the same time. So this could be a motivation for Tim to really go and win here as he wanted to fight Crawford as well.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: btc_angela on March 27, 2024, 04:04:22 PM
^ I think it's more of a privilege for Crawford being a long time WBO champion and so the organization recognizes it and so he will not be stripped if his 147 lbs even if he will fight the winner of this fight at 154 lbs. And it will be another accomplished for Crawford becoming a 4 division champion.

And with that, if Tim will win this fight, the better. It will be a big challenge for Crawford. But no offense to fans of Tim here, Crawford might destroyed your boy inside 12 rounds just like what he did against Spence Jr. But that will be on another discussion though once the fight become official in the next coming months.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: aioc on March 27, 2024, 04:50:53 PM
^ I think it's more of a privilege for Crawford being a long time WBO champion and so the organization recognizes it and so he will not be stripped if his 147 lbs even if he will fight the winner of this fight at 154 lbs. And it will be another accomplished for Crawford becoming a 4 division champion.

And with that, if Tim will win this fight, the better. It will be a big challenge for Crawford. But no offense to fans of Tim here, Crawford might destroyed your boy inside 12 rounds just like what he did against Spence Jr. But that will be on another discussion though once the fight become official in the next coming months.

The more I want to see Tim Tszyu win this match not only win but win impressively because he is a real challenge against Crawford and to be able to go to Crawford, he will have to prove himself by impressively beating Fundora, then challenge and against Boots Ennis.

Tszyu and Ennis are the two top guys in the welterweight and superwelterweight they are the new faces of this new generation but they have to prove themselves by fighting each other and the who wins deserves to have a title shot against Crawford, so let's see March 30 who's future will continue between the two.



Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: cabron on March 27, 2024, 08:49:10 PM
^ I think it's more of a privilege for Crawford being a long time WBO champion and so the organization recognizes it and so he will not be stripped if his 147 lbs even if he will fight the winner of this fight at 154 lbs. And it will be another accomplished for Crawford becoming a 4 division champion.

And with that, if Tim will win this fight, the better. It will be a big challenge for Crawford. But no offense to fans of Tim here, Crawford might destroyed your boy inside 12 rounds just like what he did against Spence Jr. But that will be on another discussion though once the fight become official in the next coming months.

The more I want to see Tim Tszyu win this match not only win but win impressively because he is a real challenge against Crawford and to be able to go to Crawford, he will have to prove himself by impressively beating Fundora, then challenge and against Boots Ennis.

Tszyu and Ennis are the two top guys in the welterweight and superwelterweight they are the new faces of this new generation but they have to prove themselves by fighting each other and the who wins deserves to have a title shot against Crawford, so let's see March 30 who's future will continue between the two.

It's also time for TIm to step up and it's a money grab for him, Tim vs Bud will be a big PPV profit.
The one thing they should be doing even before Fundora but this is for good preparation, Crawford also has a longer reach than him. We can only wish Tim can make it to the 12 rounds because Crawford though he is almost 40, is still at his best physique and defeated the undefeated fighters.

Maybe we can see Spence fighting Tim Tszyu after he gets beaten by Crawford too. This is also a possibility.  It's going to be a fair fight I think.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on March 28, 2024, 11:09:31 PM
The fun was ruined... I thought Thurman was up and wants to be a champion again but unable to make it for this big fight would say that he is done in boxing. Pacman ruined him and now he is getting older and having a problem in coming back. Honestly, I don't know Tim Tszyu's opponent, I bet he is not popular, so this could be another fight cherry pick by his camp for a sure win.

That's what everyone believed, so I agree, Manny Pacquiao has ruined Keith Thurman. Although there are pictures of him having a shoulder support or something. He is a rank boxer, Fundora has a fight with someone as the undercard.

And it's also for the interim belt and so this fight will be for the WBO and WBC belt now. Fundora is very tall but I think that is the only advantage he has. Tszyu is the well rounded of the two and he has the tools to score a knockout victory here.


Thurman has very good potential after Pacquiao's fight. But he paused his boxing career afterwards, so it was not Pac's fault why his boxing career got a hold up. Anyway, every boxer have their own journey in this sports. It is up to them how they will take advantage of the opportunity and move forward after the loss. Pacquiao got also his share of loss in his career but he never gave up and made an impact in this sports.

Well you can ask Ricky Hatton for that, or Morales or Marco Antonio Barrera because after fighting Manny they were never be the same again. After's Thurman's lost to Manny he took a long break, then trying to make a comeback against Barrios, win but doesn't look good.

And after that he didn't fight again and he was supposed to fight, but got injured?

Yes, I agree that Pacquiao himself has losses, but in the case of Thurman and others that Manny beat, it's more on their psychology that they were beaten by this small man from Asia and they can't get over with that.

Listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4m3dj3NRRA

He admitted that he got depressed after getting his first L.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Hypnosis00 on March 28, 2024, 11:58:42 PM
Maybe we can see Spence fighting Tim Tszyu after he gets beaten by Crawford too. This is also a possibility.  It's going to be a fair fight I think.
I think this one is going to be a good match, it's a pure war as both fighers are sure not gonna back down, we will see a bloody fight and both are durable and they don't move a lot like Haney or other slicky fighters. Hopefully Tim Tszyu will dominate so he'll get tested by a real Warrior.

Spence hasn't fought yet since he was defeated by Crawford, so it's a good comeback for Spence to fight a champion, and with the schedule after this, maybe they'll have an ample time to prepare for a mega fight.

My bet is on Spence vs Tszyu, although the former is inactive.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on March 29, 2024, 07:44:57 AM
And it was reported that the winner of this fight will face at least for the WBO belt Terrence Crawford.

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“based on Crawford’s merits as a three-division WBO world champion and two-division undisputed champion,” Valcarcel said, “we will allow him to enter the ring and participate as WBO welterweight champion against the winner of Tszyu versus Fundora.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-retain-wbo-welterweight-title-ahead-junior-middleweight-title-tilt--182400

And Crawford will not be stripped of his WBO welterweight at the same time. So this could be a motivation for Tim to really go and win here as he wanted to fight Crawford as well.

Tim has a lot of big fish in his hunting list and he might fight them if he will perform big this weekend. Jermell Charlo might return to 154. Crawford is also the mandatory of the WBO belt which will be the biggest fight for Tim. Errol Spence also tweeted that he wants to fight the winner of Tim and Fundora and he might get it as all of them are in the same PBC umbrella.

I am not counting out Fundora yet. The kid is dangerous although I am disappointed why his handlers aren't giving him a tune-up before fighting for the belt. If he suffers another KO or TKO, he will be mentally different and might never be the same.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Baofeng on March 29, 2024, 07:10:45 PM
And it was reported that the winner of this fight will face at least for the WBO belt Terrence Crawford.

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“based on Crawford’s merits as a three-division WBO world champion and two-division undisputed champion,” Valcarcel said, “we will allow him to enter the ring and participate as WBO welterweight champion against the winner of Tszyu versus Fundora.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-retain-wbo-welterweight-title-ahead-junior-middleweight-title-tilt--182400

And Crawford will not be stripped of his WBO welterweight at the same time. So this could be a motivation for Tim to really go and win here as he wanted to fight Crawford as well.

Tim has a lot of big fish in his hunting list and he might fight them if he will perform big this weekend. Jermell Charlo might return to 154. Crawford is also the mandatory of the WBO belt which will be the biggest fight for Tim. Errol Spence also tweeted that he wants to fight the winner of Tim and Fundora and he might get it as all of them are in the same PBC umbrella.

I am not counting out Fundora yet. The kid is dangerous although I am disappointed why his handlers aren't giving him a tune-up before fighting for the belt. If he suffers another KO or TKO, he will be mentally different and might never be the same.

Even Errol Spence can go to 154 lbs as well, so there are a lot of big fish for him as you have said. But first he will have to beat the towering inferno in Fundora. I do agree, although Fundora is a underdog, he could still pose a threat to Tim and specially if he gets overconfident and think that he can easily beat this kid.

And I'm seeing on other forums that they are giving Fundora a chance here, it might be a long shot, but who knows, gamblers love a good underdog and so I'm not surprise if there could be bettors backing up Fundora here, hehehe.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on March 29, 2024, 10:44:43 PM
I just found out that Brian Mendoza will also be in this fight as he will be fighting Serhii Bohachuk (23-1) for the WBC interim super welterweight title. So if my chance he wins, he will have another crack maybe for the regular belt being held by the winner of this fight.

And just like what fans says here, Brian said that he expects Tim to win and uses body shots to slow down the tall Fundora. This was the same strategy that he uses when he knockout Fundora. Also the final weigh-in for those who wants to see and read their body language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbvgsh335bE.

Take note though that Fundora did eat Pizza and Burger as per Tim. But Fundora says that he has a fast metabolism and so he can do that.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 30, 2024, 09:59:40 AM

Take note though that Fundora did eat Pizza and Burger as per Tim. But Fundora says that he has a fast metabolism and so he can do that.
Nothing is wrong with that I guess, he is skinny and very tall and with that he should really have a fast metabolism and at one point when we are young we experience that as well. So there should be no issue what so ever, although boxers are discipline with what they put inside their system, I think Fundora needed those extra calories. It's how it will translate in the fight, and the next thing is that his belly is ready to be soften by Tim. So Tsyzu should be thankful seeing Fundora eating that empty calories and putting it in his body and then attack him with body shots to show him regret eating those before the fight itself.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 31, 2024, 04:36:46 AM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on March 31, 2024, 04:49:20 AM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s elbow clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I'm disappointed in the main event. It should've been stopped before the start of the 5th round. It's very clear that Tszyu cannot fight well because of the blood flowing to his eyes. PBC probably does want the fight to be stopped as this is their first PPV or maybe first event at Amazon Prime their new partner. Or maybe PBC wanted Fondura to win. Without the injury, Tim could've stopped Fondura as he already figured it out in the beginning rounds.

In other title fight, I'm glad that the undeserving Rolly Romero finally lost his WBA belt by a barrage of heavy punches from Isaac Cruyz. Not sure how long Cruz can stay champion as I believe he is too small at 140. But he is safe from unifications as IBF champ Matias is now with DAZN together with the WBC champ, Haney while the lineal and WBO holder Teofimo is with TR.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on March 31, 2024, 07:16:51 AM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: coin-investor on March 31, 2024, 11:45:40 AM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Distinctin on March 31, 2024, 12:23:22 PM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: aioc on March 31, 2024, 01:03:06 PM

No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.

While watching the fight I thought the fight would be stopped anytime because of the cut from any one of the two, I was worried about Tim because the blood was uncontrollable, if not for that cut Tim could have won the fight he was restricted with his movement.
Fundora shows heart and determination also, like all the others' opinions, I like to see both fighters doing a rematch, I'm sure they will have it based on this article

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Amid some confusion over whether there was a rematch clause, Tszyu’s promoter, George Rose of No Limit Boxing, confirmed his fighter had the option to run it back against the 6’6” southpaw.
“He [Fundora’s promoter Sampson Lewkowicz] knows there’s a rematch clause there,” Rose told reporters.
“If we want to take it, we’ll take it. I’d love to see Tim take that and win them belts straight back.
“I’m happy for a rematch to happen next and good luck trying to get out of it.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Distinctin on March 31, 2024, 01:11:58 PM

No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.

While watching the fight I thought the fight would be stopped anytime because of the cut from any one of the two, I was worried about Tim because the blood was uncontrollable, if not for that cut Tim could have won the fight he was restricted with his movement.
Fundora shows heart and determination also, like all the others' opinions, I like to see both fighters doing a rematch, I'm sure they will have it based on this article


I think Australian boxers are warriors. I saw the same thing happen to George Kambosos Jr against Teofimo Lopez and he doesn't look like he was bothered. It was the fight we expected, despite Fundora has a huge advantage in terms of reach and height but Tszyu didn't care enough, he still attack and give the fans a very entertaining fight but unfortuantely he loss.

I guess that was just how Tszyu fight, he just found an opponent that he could not dominate, so I believe he would lose to Thurman if their fight wasn't cancelled.

Good to know there was a rematch clause, I'm sure
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Amid some confusion over whether there was a rematch clause, Tszyu’s promoter, George Rose of No Limit Boxing, confirmed his fighter had the option to run it back against the 6’6” southpaw.
“He [Fundora’s promoter Sampson Lewkowicz] knows there’s a rematch clause there,” Rose told reporters.
“If we want to take it, we’ll take it. I’d love to see Tim take that and win them belts straight back.
“I’m happy for a rematch to happen next and good luck trying to get out of it.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8

Good to know that there was a rematch clause, I'm sure Tszyu are still eager to avenge his loss, after all it's still a championship fight so if he'll win, he will become a champion again, and then trilogy will take place. It's a fight that peopel will see because they've seen how these two are not afraid to go toe to toe in full 12 rounds.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 01, 2024, 01:14:56 AM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)
It's more that it bothered him in this fight. We have seen boxers getting cut and then try to continue but eventually lose because it's not that only it goes into their eyes, but also in their nose and it makes them hard to breathe obviously. I do agree that for some, this fight could have been stop by the referee or the ring doctor could have step up to stop it. I think they failed to do that in this fight. Haven't seen any news yet, but for sure they could be criticized for handling this fight and it should go on this to become one of the bloodiest fight in boxing history. Yeah, this is an upset indeed as no one see this kind of outcome. If there are no elbow, it could have been a different script and Tim winning the fight.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on April 01, 2024, 03:37:24 AM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: coin-investor on April 01, 2024, 01:45:53 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: btc_angela on April 01, 2024, 02:03:17 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Viscore on April 01, 2024, 02:28:11 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.

Tim Tszyu has to become a champion again if he wants to get a bigger fight, maybe a rematch on this fight would do and if he wins, that's the time to chase for a bigger and more popular opponent.  Tim Tszyu vs Crawford is so big but we know that Tim Tszyu will only be a huge underdog here, so it's not worth to watch this as it could be like a mismatch, maybe a comeback fight for Spence vs Tim Tszyu would do, then the winner will get to fight Crawford again.

As long as the rematch clause exist, there's a chance a rematch is happening, maybe this year, who knows.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: cabron on April 01, 2024, 03:00:18 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.

Tim Tszyu has to become a champion again if he wants to get a bigger fight, maybe a rematch on this fight would do and if he wins, that's the time to chase for a bigger and more popular opponent.  Tim Tszyu vs Crawford is so big but we know that Tim Tszyu will only be a huge underdog here, so it's not worth to watch this as it could be like a mismatch, maybe a comeback fight for Spence vs Tim Tszyu would do, then the winner will get to fight Crawford again.

As long as the rematch clause exist, there's a chance a rematch is happening, maybe this year, who knows.

A rematch would be nice because there really must be a lot of bettors who still haven't absorbed the reality that Tim lost lol

Maybe the second time around will sink in and finally accept the truth. Honestly, I also lost this fight thinking Tim would also KO Fundora since he can actually get closer to the boy. This is why a rematch would make sense after all the fight ended in a decision. It's just the scoring that differs that made Fundora win but if there is a knock out, it's definitive.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 01, 2024, 04:09:42 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.

Maybe, if not for being "blind" owed to cuts, Tszyu may have won this fight as the decision came to a split decision. Hence, many boxing fans are asking for a re-match. But what I like about Tszyu here is that he accepted the results fair and square, and didn't say anything bad or give reasoning why he lost this match.
Now, if Tszyu's camp really wanted to prove one more time that he has the chance again to get back the belts, they will arrange for a re-match. And a KO on either side would be a good one to see, to determine who really owns those belts.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on April 02, 2024, 01:27:39 PM
As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.

Maybe, if not for being "blind" owed to cuts, Tszyu may have won this fight as the decision came to a split decision. Hence, many boxing fans are asking for a re-match. But what I like about Tszyu here is that he accepted the results fair and square, and didn't say anything bad or give reasoning why he lost this match.
Now, if Tszyu's camp really wanted to prove one more time that he has the chance again to get back the belts, they will arrange for a re-match. And a KO on either side would be a good one to see, to determine who really owns those belts.

Fundora lost before this title fight but he was actually winning that one before that single big shot that took him down for good. This time, Tim was already landing his shots and figured it out but was just unlucky after a huge elbow before the end of round 2.

Tim's handler already said he wanted an immediate rematch although it all depends on the whole team's decision. To be fair, Fundora's promoter also said they are ready to give Tim the rematch.

The WBO already ordered Crawford and Fundora to start negotiating. If Tim activates the rematch clause, it seems like Fundora will either grant it and vacate the WBO belt. There's also PBC's very own Errol Spence wanting a shot at the title. Poor Bohachuk was only given by the corrupt WBC an interim version without any assurance of getting a shot at the real belt.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: btc_angela on April 02, 2024, 02:15:26 PM
^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Questat on April 02, 2024, 02:52:58 PM
^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.
Organization can't dictate a rematch, they can only put a mandatory opponent, the contract was only between both fighters and it was reported that the was a rematch clause, so Tszyu could demand within the specified period of time.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8
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Tim Tszyu’s team have insisted the Australian has a rematch clause should he wish to get back in there with Sebastian Fundora - a claim supported by the American's agent.

Tszyu was relieved of his WBO super welterweight title, while Fundora also took the vacant WBC strap back home to Coachella, California with a split-decision victory at Las Vegas’ T-Mobile Arena on Saturday night.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: inthelongrun on April 03, 2024, 04:49:37 AM
^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.
Organization can't dictate a rematch, they can only put a mandatory opponent, the contract was only between both fighters and it was reported that the was a rematch clause, so Tszyu could demand within the specified period of time.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8
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Tim Tszyu’s team have insisted the Australian has a rematch clause should he wish to get back in there with Sebastian Fundora - a claim supported by the American's agent.

Tszyu was relieved of his WBO super welterweight title, while Fundora also took the vacant WBC strap back home to Coachella, California with a split-decision victory at Las Vegas’ T-Mobile Arena on Saturday night.

In the past, there was really a war between the WBO and the WBC. The corrupt WBC thought it can just dictate everything in the boxing world. Anyways, the WBO has no choice as well because Crawford being undisputed can exercise his right to become the WBO mandatory and it is a good thing Paco obliged accordingly.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on April 03, 2024, 06:00:11 AM
The WBO already ordered Crawford and Fundora to start negotiating. If Tim activates the rematch clause, it seems like Fundora will either grant it and vacate the WBO belt. There's also PBC's very own Errol Spence wanting a shot at the title. Poor Bohachuk was only given by the corrupt WBC an interim version without any assurance of getting a shot at the real belt.

The interim belt was completely pointless. The WBC knew already that Crawford had petitioned to become the winner's mandatory. They will probably say that Bohachuk deserved an opportunity to fight for a title, but there’s nothing in the rules about giving someone a consolation prize because of a last minute change of plans. They could’ve just made the Bohachuk vs. Mendoza winner the WBC mandatory. Having the extra belt around that will take forever to consolidate is just a way for greedy Sulaiman to collect more fees.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Questat on April 03, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.
It would be nice if Tim's camp will agree to it. Maybe it's advisable that they'll not take the rematch right away so they can study how to defeat the taller guy. In boxing, you're emotion will ruin your career, so Tim's camp has to be smart enough not to loss twice again and we don't want to see another Kambosos which also an australian that losses twice due to his eagerness for a rematch.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 03, 2024, 08:10:06 PM
^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.
It would be nice if Tim's camp will agree to it. Maybe it's advisable that they'll not take the rematch right away so they can study how to defeat the taller guy. In boxing, you're emotion will ruin your career, so Tim's camp has to be smart enough not to loss twice again and we don't want to see another Kambosos which also an australian that losses twice due to his eagerness for a rematch.
This is also what I think, they will have to shell out money to Tim to step aside and let Fundora vs Crawford happen and him get a tune up fight, he will be in win-win situation here, as he will still have the crack to fight the winner for the WBO belt. And this is the classic boxing politics, WBO is like forcing their champion to fight Crawford and there are nothing that Fundora can. And there is supposedly a rematch clause, but since WBO priority is Crawford, the clause will not be executed. But as we fans see it, there's more advantage of Tim not fighting directly Fundora for a rematch as his first lose might have effect on him right now and the way he lose is very bad.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kemarit on April 04, 2024, 10:40:19 PM
Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

Yes, we really didn't see that Fundora will win this fight. But then again, the elbow was really a big factor int his fight and it's just not the way we wanted it.

And so it looks like we will see Fundora vs Crawford, next but there are news that it could be delayed as Crawford is asking too much or demanding that he will get the lion share of the split. Also, Fundora will have to take a rest as he himself is injured with a broken nose I presumed. But it could happen at the end of the year, most likely November-December if both parties have agreed.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: robelneo on April 04, 2024, 11:48:44 PM


And so it looks like we will see Fundora vs Crawford, next but there are news that it could be delayed as Crawford is asking too much or demanding that he will get the lion share of the split. Also, Fundora will have to take a rest as he himself is injured with a broken nose I presumed. But it could happen at the end of the year, most likely November-December if both parties have agreed.

There's no official announcement yet, but there is a contract to be honored so the contract will precede the mandatory order, Tszyu seems serious about a rematch so there's a big possibility that we will read more on the news about a rematch than the news of Crawford fighting Fundora.

If Fundora wins the rematch then we can botch for the Fundora - Crawford rematch unless Crawford does not ask what the promoters cannot give.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Fundamentals Of on April 05, 2024, 03:06:09 AM
I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

The poll you made here only got 8 votes but all voted for Tszyu which was clearly the favorite. But more than your poll, this is an upset win for Fundora because Tszyu was a 1.17-favorite. He was expected to win this fight. His victory was predicted to be more than 85%. Fundora on the other hand got 5.00 odds.

But as we all know, the fight didn't really go smoothly. It's unfortunate that Tszyu had to suffer a cut early in the fight that wasn't caused by a legitimate punch from Fundora's. Although Fundora performed well with his jabs, the fact that Tszyu had to continue with the fight partially blind because of the cut from Fundora's elbow made a big difference.

It's good though that both fighters agreed for a rematch.


Title: Re: Tim Tszyu - Seabastian Fundora For The WBC And WBO Super Welterweight March 30
Post by: Kelvinid on April 05, 2024, 04:25:21 AM
I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

The poll you made here only got 8 votes but all voted for Tszyu which was clearly the favorite. But more than your poll, this is an upset win for Fundora because Tszyu was a 1.17-favorite. He was expected to win this fight. His victory was predicted to be more than 85%. Fundora on the other hand got 5.00 odds.

But as we all know, the fight didn't really go smoothly. It's unfortunate that Tszyu had to suffer a cut early in the fight that wasn't caused by a legitimate punch from Fundora's. Although Fundora performed well with his jabs, the fact that Tszyu had to continue with the fight partially blind because of the cut from Fundora's elbow made a big difference.

It's good though that both fighters agreed for a rematch.

Definitely, that match up needs a rematch and let's hope next time it will not be bloody. I would also choose Fundora to win via upset but wasn't able to put my bet as I'm not really interested in this fight.Anyway, now that Fundora got a big win, he needs to continue his great game plan in the rematch, and if he still wins the fight, that would move him in a better situation as Tszyu could not deny another fight anymore, and therefore Fundora would have a chance for a unification fight if he choose to take a bigger risk.