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Days ago with my friend, we stepped out to play
a local game (Epele or draft) when we got there people where playing and when it gets to his turn he start playing and win, then I played with him he also wins me then someone looked and say you can't come here to start pulling out people from the board therefore "I must win you", like a joke he won and my friend stepped down. Long story short..

Fast forward... Our way going, then i decided to go check on person in a local gambling shop, we both stepped inside together, he went straight to seat while I was discussing with the staff there. At some point he was pushed to gamble, though our intention is never to gamble just to see someone and continue going home, he then say see "guy let me try luck to see if I can double my money" he then decided to play virtual.

On the process he then pick 4 match and stake with 200, and then pick another 4 matches and stake with another 200 which is a total of 400, he lost one ticket and the other tickets wins he then stake with 200 again into two he won all. So he ended up winning 3 times he wanted to stake the 4th one, what I did was to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more.

On our way going he started yelling at me that why did I lift him outside that he knows what he was doing, that he could had won more game and raised enough money for the day, maybe he could win huge amount.
But to me, the only thing I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?

Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

I just wanted to know, maybe we can discussed to have fun while imputing your response.

You are a good friend. You have been following what we have been discussing on the gambling discussion board on this forum.

That is one thing about betting, the gambler will be winning and it will be very interesting for him to continue playing.  It if he continued to play, likely he would have lost some money or lost all if he had the time to bet more.

You seem to come up with some strange situations and they all seem entirely made up. On the off chance it is true and he was so hooked on gambling, you simply slowed the process down slightly because they would make themselves back there regardless. Sometimes you simply have to let people make their own mistakes as it's only when they experience the pain associated with it they will stop. If they don't stop then you cannot do it for them - they will either cut you off and continue to do it, or they may even end up coming to you for money to continue it. The best you might hope for is to try and educate this person about the phenomenal odds that are stacked against them.

There is nothing wrong with what you've done. As a good friend, you're in the best position to call him to order at the time he is allowing his emotions to get the better of him. I've hard countless numbers of experiences in virtual gambling and it works in such a way that while you're winning you're tempted to keep playing up untill you've lost all the initial wins you had and even loose the extra money you came with before you now regret now leaving the betting shop earlier enough. At least even if he's angry that he should have won more, because he even got 3 times what he cane with is enough to shoe that he hard a Smooth and nice gambling outing.

Someone once told me never to interrupt an angry gambler. You'll never gain anything from it and he'll be angry at you for denying him a win, or not allowing him to earn back what he'd lost.
It reminds me of a story a friend once told me about helping a drunk guy. He saw a man lying on the side of the road at night and there was nobody around to help him, so he pulled him up and sat him on a nearby bench. The drunkard woke up, reached for his pocket and asked: where's my wallet? I had a wallet and you took it from me you thief! In a nutshell this is the thanks you get for trying to help an addict.

Yeah, my thought also, two days in a row, a bit weird, maybe highly exaggerated stuff from the past?


Morally, yes!
Now the bad about this could be the attitude of your friend and his temper.
If this had become an angrier discussion he might have slapped or pushed you, the betting local owners would have intervened or ask for the police, I don't know where you live but in some Western countries, this might have degenerated enough for you to spend a night in jail.

It all depends on the situation and the type of establishment, but quite ironically, ignoring the other consequences of a fight or a scandal would also have helped him if they had added him to a blacklist for that incident. A lot of pros and cons depending on way too many factors.

How old are you? I feel like this story is from some twenty-year-old person... excuse me if I am wrong.

You did what you thought should be done, and that should be respected. No one knows what would have happened if he had stayed to gamble, maybe he would have won more, maybe he would have lost everything he has. Your friend can say what he wants, agree with it or not... in the end situations like this show how strong friendship is. If the friendship is strong, he will understand that you wanted the best for him, and if he doesn't understand that, then he is not a real friend.

I think that your reaction was good, you kept your cool and you did what you did with the best of intentions. If he doesn't understand that, that's up to him...

You really did well for your friend. When we are gambling and we are experiencing a winning streak, we just have to know when we will stop gambling because it can’t just continue like that, time will come when we are going to start losing. That’s just what your friend doesn’t understand, and immediately we start losing. It’s always difficult to stop gambling because we will be thinking that if we keep on trying it, then we will be able to recover or win more. You really helped your friend by lifting him outside.

If not for your help, I am sure your friend will end up losing most of the money he won back, if not everything, which is due to greed. Your friend wanted to double the money, but from what you said, he was able to make more than double of his money. Him trying to win more is just purely greedy, which is totally bad.

Fun fact for gambler.

Never brough any friend of you who are not gambler to do gambler, all the addiction and someone turn on to be gambler is because "friend" is introduce to them. It's one of the factor, did your friend is a gambler.

It's not, from my perspective you should be a shame cause we know gambling have serious problem and we don't want our friend got those.

You were right because you pulled your friend out of there.


Probably, we'll never know because it's been out of the picture since you left the betting shop.


He will continue.

I never blame gambling activities, because I'm also a gambler, but what makes me unhappy with the story above is how you & your friend who don't seem to be gamblers go to gambling activities. Gambling activities should be responsible activities, which a person does without being forced by any circumstances.

Your friend won't know you have done to him what any good friend would do to each other. He may be angry at the instant but afterwards when he is settled and recall the moment he is going to thank you for  lifting him out of the gambling shop when he didn't had the thought of doing it himself because of how he was too carried away by the winnings which could have later turned to losses if he had continued a little longer.

Not every one that loses in his first time of gambling stops to gamble, some people that's the beginning of a long gambling history while for another that's an end.

You didn't do anything wrong but your friend didn't understand that because you look like a responsible gambler and you were just looking out for your friend. But did you know that some people would never learn from the mistakes of others untill they have made theirs? When you tell them your own mistakes, they'll dismiss like it can never happen to them until it does.

Secondly, I wouldn't know of your friend would have continued gambling if he lost as we don't know about his gambling history. I would have been able to make my predictions if you had told us a little about his past betting habits.

Interrupting his session while he's up was the best decision you've made there, it might cause him to miss out on potential winnings, but you never know when his luck will end.

If he kept on betting, I think he'd win some more before going on a losing streak, gamblers always try to push their luck while it's hot.

The best-case scenario would be for him to stop once he loses, but he could also react differently and try to recover his recent losses.

You've done really well, like the saying goes, the stubborn fly followed the corpse into the ground. You just lifted that your stubborn fly friend out of great trouble since it's obvious he's lost control in his gambling activity.

He's also gambling with the wrong motive and has a greedy target, so it's obvious he would possibly lose his bets and start chasing his loses since he wants to cash out big and not just having some fun.

Yep, I think OP's friend will appreciate it in the future.

You did the right thing to lift him outside and draw him from gambling more because he was start to becomes greedy and wants more winning. He doesn't realizes that his wins can turn into lose once his greed increase so he must thanks to you because you can act fast to save him. Although he say that he can win once more, there still no guarantee for him to win again in gambling and you know that so you did the right thing.

Greed can rollover him and makes him lose much money. The chance of the next win will be there but not big than his losses in the next match. So he must realizes that you only saves him and don't want to see he lose much money in the next match. If he lose in the next match, he will difficult to stops himself because his minds will telling him to keep playing gambling. You don't have to thinks much about his yelling because you don't want to see your friend becomes greed.

I think what was done is right and greed shouldn't plant its seeds from the get-go, because it's very hard to get rid of ;D

Kind of? I mean yeah, you had the best intentions sure but that's a YOU thing. Not a him thing. No one really wants someone else bothering you from doing something, regardless of how kind your intentions are. If he asked for help or told you to warn him when he's going past some limit, then yeah sure go do your thing. But if not, then just warn him at most, and if he doesn't acknowledge it then leave him to his actions.

As for him winning or losing god knows really. I mean I reckon you'd probably have better opinions than me, he's your friend lol. Same with the results, it's a gamble man. It's 50/50.

You are a good friend and I feel that you are close to each other, from my point of view you have done nothing wrong but thinking about your friend's situation, it is quite embarrassing to be carried out of the gambling shop like a kid.

The second thing, your friend is not a minor I suppose he knows in himself that he knows what he is doing and that he is winning and he wanted to win more.  Carrying him out of the gambling shop is restricting his freedom although you have good intentions for him it is oppression.

Whether he win or lose all his money is out of your concern, you can remind him or tell him the possible consequences but the fact that you use physical force to stop him makes him feel oppressed.  I would also get annoyed if you do that to me because the action would embarrass me and at the same time you are oppressing my freedom of choice.

You like it or you do not like it, people and even kids are exposed to gambling in this period of life that we are. Ashame for what? He is a good friend and he did the right thing. He did not even posted that his friend is new to gambling. Just that some gamblers are greedy in a way that if they are winning, they will continue to gamble until they started to lose. It is not about his friend is new to gambling or not.

You are not wrong in this case because have helped you friend to stay on the safe track when gambling, if you do not decide to ask him out and stop the prolonged betting, something bad could happen.
Maybe he thinks to be able to make more wins and collect some money if he still has luck, but if not, it can also result in big loss and spend everything he has earned.
Moreover, if something bad really happens and loses all the money, it can trigger an emotional increase that can lead him to go further by using other additional money to bet again, in conditions like this it will be difficult for him to stop.
In this context, I quite salute you who still care about other people or it is you own friend.

You did the right thing. Whatever he thinks next is up to him. You just want him to take home the winnings and that's the best choice against the house.

Now, if he wants to get back there, don't stop him. You've done your part and you won't be the one being blamed if he loses it all when he returns to the gambling area. I say he might even tell you that he should've listened to you in the first place.
There are people who get greedy whenever they feel they are lucky and your friend is an example of that. He thinks he knows what he is doing but greed is clouding his judgement.

Do you think he was gambling more than he could afford to lose? If he was gambling within his income, there is nothing wrong with playing more games. But if your observation was that he was becoming greedy and gambling more than he could afford, then your action is justifiable.

Gambling outcomes as unpredictable. The answer to this question will only be revealed after he had finished gambling. He might lose more, win more, or be in a state of equilibrium.

If he had more money, he might continue to cover his losses. He might walk home if unluckily lost all he had won. His reaction will be solely based on how he feels.

there is always a chance to win bigger. but you certainly know that there is also a possibility that your friend will lose everything. and I am sure that is what is on your mind.
your decision is right to invite your friend to go out. maybe your friend does not know the risks or maybe your friend is ready to lose.
I want to know how your friend usually behaves when he loses. is it normal for a regular gambler, or maybe he is quite emotional?

it doesn't matter if he will play again or not. but what you did to your friend must have created a new thought and understanding regarding how he should be calm in gambling.

I think your friend is lucky to have you when at the casino.

Unfortunately, that's true. It's essential to learn from the sessions where greed is tempting us to give our prize back to the house, even if that is regretable in your mind because you could win more - it's not like that, usually.

Your kind is rare as a friend as per say some will definitely watch you stake with all you have and you either win or loose all of it,but you have done well and reminded him that no matter what he mustn't gamble with everything.

I know it's really hard for alot gamblers to understand that in the brisk of winning there's always a control button that says to you don't stop but you ought to know that.

I think he was being greedy,from the games he played so far he was able to win big but was not satisfied with it due to greed and overconfidence. He feels winning is just by his own gambling skill or understanding,  this is the type of gambler that will keep playing untill he lose all the money in gambling trying to make more money. Greed is the main reason why people lose so much in gambling because their is no guarantee for one to win more games when continuing to gamble.
I think you helped him to secure is money by stopping him from playing because their won't be no how for him not to lose because it is easy to lose money in gambling when you play more.

I am also sure that you shouldn't prevent a person from gaining his experience. The fact that the OP pulled him out that day doesn't mean taught him to be careful with his passion. The memory of a good game prevented from finishing remained in this person's head.
And what will he do next? He has an unfinished experience of victories, and now he will want to repeat it, knowing and remembering that he was lucky. And until he learns to stop on his own, all other warnings will only further incite his passion for the game.

Yeah, a dialogue about is needed too to reach the needed effect. At least a dialogue, I mean ;D

I would get pissed if my friend lift me out like that, he can just warn me to stop gambling and I will decide if I will leave or not, warning is all you should have done OP, lifting feels like disrespect for me but for your friend it seems he was angry for stopping him.

You are a good friend indeed and any gambler that use the word that they know what they are doing are stupid because no one knows what they are doing when gambling, that's why its a game of luck, all you know how to do and control is the money you decide to risk on gambling, everything else depend on luck.

You have done nothing wrong adbitco. Your friend is just a narcissistic gambler that finds his own fault to the others. It's nice that you're there because what might happen could've been worse if you're not there with him. And if he had won a lot, I don't think that he'll stop, he's already into it and the very first step that he's got in there, he knows that he's staying for a while. Don't feel bad if you are thinking like that and that's why you've shared it here. Next time, if that friend of yours ask you as his companion to his journeys just learn to say NO and let him go elsewhere and wherever he would like to go. That will be the last time for me if I am his friend because of that yelling. I can tolerate him with gambling decisions but yelling at me is something I wouldn't let pass.

You are not his father. You should let him decide for himself; you did not respect him by doing that; you can just warn him, but lifting him is a big disrespect.
Gambling is a game of luck. You never know what will happen next on your next bet; no one of us can say if he will win, but if your friend does not know how to stop, he will likely lose everything he gains.
It's his money, so he can do whatever he wants. You can only advise him to stop and warn him about the outcome, and you can lose your friendship if he finds you annoying, so you better employ diplomacy.

You did a good thing dragging him outside. Other wise he would have lost all the money he had won for that day. I think greed was already a part of his game from the start. He won the draft continuously and didn't want to stop until someone won him. He was also tempted to play virtual in the next stop because he wanted to multiply his !money even more. That's already greed playing on him. Probably if he continued playing he would have lost all he won back to them. And he would go home sad. He just became too greedy at the start and if not you he would go home with nothing.

You did the right thing and before everything will go to worse its better to go away while everything is fine.


No, that doesn't guarantee any consistent win. If he choose to continue then became more greedy for gains, provably he might end up losing those gains and encounter huge negatives in his side which commonly happening in gambling scene.


Depends if he want to chase his losses then provably he might continue. But if he's been hurt with the losses he get then don't have money to spend then automatically he would quit and try again next time.

Is very funny OP, I can imagine the look on his face because I have seen guys who spend time playing the virtual game only to end up losing everything after given the chance to go with the one they have won. You can only drag him out of the betting shop for that particular moment but not forever because he must definitely go back to try again when you're not around to stop him.
You did well because at that point you saved him from losing the little he won and his reaction towards you is expected because at that time he only sees himself winning and winning but he forget that the losing moment is very near and he'll lose everything, well is good you played the part of a good friend.

I think there is nothing else I would say other than you are a very good friend and understand and also care about the various bad possibilities that could possibly befall your friend at that time which could very well cause an uncontrolled reaction, meaning that the action you took at that time was the right one.
Maybe we know that the ability to stop at the right time is something that every gambler must have, because with that ability a person will remain safe in a win or lose situation.

In that scenario I would say that if your friend continued to session 4 then yes of course he might be able to win again, but it is also very possible for him to lose, and when it turns out that in the end the result is really lost then I am sure it is very unlikely for him to stop and leave the betting shop, because the feeling of revenge will take over his mind and of course it can lead him to a much worse situation.

Basically it is a fact that real victory is when you are able to cash out the results of the victory.

You know, people will appreciate you after you gone or you proved you're right.

In this case, even you did right thing, but your friend still think about the opportunity to make more money by gamble it. That's why he mad at you, he might don't want to gamble with you anymore. Don't worry about it, if he lose all of his money in the next gambling session or he become homeless, you will be the person that he remember for lifting him our from the casino.

Because greed is the eternal companion of all gamblers and it is the greed of gamblers that the casino manipulates.

This is a correct, truly friendly act, aimed at performing a good deed for his friend. Otherwise, he would lose all his winnings.

He would have lost, because the longer you gamble, the higher the chances of losing (RTP 95%).

He won't stop until he loses all the money he has with him. I've seen such cases before.

On a second thought, maybe you would just left your friend to continue gambling, since he was obviously yelling at you as you guys were on your way back, since he clearly cannot see the good deed you did for him.

You played a fantastic role as a friend, he had already won some games, in fact he even doubled the money he initially started staking with, so it was the right time to go after all, it wasn't something you guys planned.
OP, your story helps to illuminate the fact that greed is one of the major factors affecting the growth of some gamblers.

This is a very hard condition.

Something that you feel right isn't always right for other people, especially in gambling where we have our own risk management. I can accept to lose $10 and looking to earn $50, while my friend might able to take risk to lose $100 and looking to earn $1K.

Can't really say that you're done completely correct, although in some context you're right.

If you had not dragged or carried him out of that place by force, chances that he would have won more or lose more is unimaginable. I wouldn't say it was for you to have dragged him out, perhaps he never had the intention to gambler that day but you were still the reason why he stepped into a bet shop that day, if you had not gone there to see your friend, there's no way he would feel the desire to place some bet. In my own opinion, you did well. Gambling result is unpredictable and he was not sure that he would have won.

What you did was indeed the perfect decision any good friend would have done in scenarios like this, since it's obvious, he was already been carried away by his few winnings, because thou he may be upset at the moment when you carried him from the betting shop, I'm sure he will always thank you for that for knowing when to stop, because if he had gambled one more time, there is a higher tendency, it would have been disastrous, as luck doesn't come always.

It's under probability, because the same way he would have won, that's the same way he would have lose too. Gambling is a game of luck, whose outcome is a product of the algorithm.

If you forced him out of the place probably because you are bigger than him or he has so much respect for you and you used that against him then I think you did something wrong because everyone deserves a chance to do what ever they choose to, you can only play your part and advice him but definitely you should not force him to do that which you want.

I believe in advising people and letting them make their own decisions, this way they face what ever the outcome maybe and take responsibility.

Why do you have to draw him out of the betting for going home, since he still have the money to spare for gambling and that is none of your business on whether he is losing or catching fun winning, at least he is enjoying the best of his time gambling, except if he is doing that form the purpose of making money of which he must have run lost earlier to that, gambling is our own individual decision to make and we don't have to allow any external constraint or party affect the way we are gong to enjoy playing it, if we lost then we chose to or knew already that it could happened, to you now, you think you have helped him while he is seeing it as an hindrance on allowing him to have more winning opportunity.

The probability may be 50:50, but it will be quite risky if it continues, especially if at the beginning you have already won as a consolation prize.
It is not easy to get big wins, it really depends on luck and how the gambling algorithm works.

OP makes a good friend to remind and take his friend out before disaster strikes, but he may also be blamed when the bet made should have won big.
It would be wrong if someone who is already a gambling addict is prohibited from making bets.

But yes, just take the positive lessons, being addicted or betting without doing strategy and management is stupid.
Gamblers will be happy if they play it right and use it as entertainment, but it will be terrible if they just want to big win.

If one begins to make steady profits through gambling, the logic naturally follows that more will be made by continuing to play. More often than not, this is a route to loss, especially when greed creeps in.

If your friend keeps on gambling, he might win big. On the other hand, he could just as easily lose every dime of his streak. Such is the nature of luck in gambling; it could turn at any instant. Walking away at a time when one is winning suffices as prudent, for avarice ordinarily ushers folks into playing further till they lose everything. That is what might happen if your friend does not stop.

It's an interesting discussion, especially when we look at how gambling can affect one's decision. So, while he may be sore at you, you actually did him a favor and saved him from losing much more.

Hey bro at first I would like to appreciate your efforts here but to say I made my story up is like saying i don't know what I am doing. But still I won't look into it because there are lots of people who regularly made up stories just to boost their post count and if you must know I am not those, and whatever thing I post here is my day personal experience so sometimes I have different encounters in real life but don't feels like to share here because I felt some people may not believe it so I decided to keep some within myself and never to share. So now I know my next steps to follow maybe I would be including graphics to back it up so that you wouldn't turned to a doubting thomas.

You did what a friend is expected to do, as you didn't want to see him losing his hard earned money and the further negative consequences this loss would imply for his personal life. You tried to take care your friend the best you could on that moment and there is nothing wrong with that, even though nothing forbids him from coming back later to the betting shop without your presence to place more bets.

No, he probably would have lost all his money if you didn't prevent him from gambling. Your friend displays clear gambling addiction signals, as he is compulsive to continue gambling without knowing when to quit for his own good.

By what you reported, he would have continued until the losing the last penny, and that is really sad. He got somehow aggressive yelling on you after the incident as well, so it's quite worrying.

Nobody knows if he could have won more games or maybe he was in his winning streak. However, what you did was the best because if he continues to win he might end up gambling more and at the end lose the little that he has profited and even lose Thebes money he went there with. But you prevented that from happening and your friend will not understand that you saved him from losing his profit. If only we gamblers can have people around us to stop us when we are gambling the wrong way.

You have proven that you are one friend who wants the best for him. He may not see the good you have done at that moment but sooner or later he will realize that you stopped him from starting something he may regret or do at the end of the day. Just so you know I have never heard or seen someone who said they would just gamble for a few minutes or step in the gambling shop to walk away. It starts from the act of gambling once to steady gambling.

What had happened to your friend is very relatable. The first act of gambling leads to another win especially when we lose. We would want to gamble more because there is still enough funds to do it.

The gambler who was short temper in nature was the angry gambler.This was the inbuilt one,they not become the angry gambler because of the gambling loss.This was the another case,the gambler who had loss huge money became the angry gambler.Most of the time,you can’t convey the good things to the angry gambler.Because their opinion will be different for the gambling as compared to the other gamblers.Because they thought the gamblers who use the huge money in the gambling site will be lost.But this was the hypothetical one,the loss in the gambling due to the random betting and the unlucky game of the gamblers.

Although your friend failed to recognize the good you did for him by taking him out of the casino, what you did wasn't wrong in any way, you were right in almost all you except if you were violent at some point then it will be considered a problem because that can cause some rift between you both.

Those games can be very addictive and the gambler may not realize that on time until after they must have lost a whole lot then they will start having regrets about what they have done and wished they would have done better, he's thinking he would have won some more if you had allowed him until you had allowed him and then see him loosing some more then you would have been the good friend and probably he would have learnt his lessons already.

It's a dilemma, I don't want to blame you, cz you're all an adult, and your friend know it.
however, people's responses must be like this:
"Because of you, he knows that place, you invited him, right?"

The fact remains if you invite him to that place. But basically, it will depend on the person, whether he will really join in and get addicted, or not. Because in society, often, the environment introduces gambling, and their circle in that friendship environment influences each other to gamble.

But actually what you did was right, preventing him from playing again and losing more money. Just let him get angry, but at least his interactions with you have been prevented. the worry is that he will leave secretly without you and carry out gambling that doesn't stop.

Upgrading your friend from the casino may be viewed as protection from the negative consequences of excessive gambling. Due to its unpredictability and high-risk nature, it can't be proven that continuation would bring greater success; the old winner might well lose. If he had not stopped right there, he could have either won more or lost all of it, as gambling is usually after one has suffered a loss. Your friend's actions probably demonstrate the mentality of a regular player where immediate setbacks are looked upon as being transitory rather than cause to quit. It is generally advisable to cut your losses and withdraw while you are ahead, and thus your help in this case may be viewed as an intervention to save her from further losses.

You did not do anything wrong in pulling him outside the gambling shop perhaps, if he has lost, you may extend his grieves towards you particularly that he stepped into the bet shop after you.

Maybe I should tell you to be careful otherwise when you want to take such friend out of such gambling situation because you can imagine if he was loosing, definitely he would be aggressive and dangerous at that moment because he has been under pressure or greeds or trying to recover his lost.

However, friends that watches each others back would always appreciate each other at all.

I replied him is you are being greedy why would you allow greed to rollover you?
Now I want to asked; Have I done wrong to have lift him from the gambling shop?
Also did you think he would win more if he had continued gambling?
Again, if he lose all the money won do you think he would continue or stop?

You know that greedy is the factor here, I mean this emotion can be happen on every person on earth including my self and base on the story your friend yell at you because he thinks he gonna win more.
You can freely leave your friend so if he losses maybe he's gonna feel sorry to you but if he win he gonna hate you
But If Im in your position Im gonna leave him but still watching from the outside

Have I done wrong by lifting him outside the betting shop? It could be yes and no In my opinion

There are two things that you mentioned to us: one is that his luck was good and he wins all the time, and the second thing is that you noticed a greedy nature in him, which may cause him to lose all his winnings. In this case, I think you did the right thing by getting him up from the table because he did not know about himself and was deeply engrossed in betting. His emotions (that is, greed) started to rise and took control of him. If you were not at that place, he might have left the shop only after losing everything.

You are a good friend, and we all need friends who always look out for us and do their best to stop us from things that ruin our lives. Remember that winning does not always mean you won't lose; you may lose all your winnings in one huge bet. Before this happens, listen to your friend and be happy with the amount you won for that day. Greed is a nature that only stops when you lose all your assets.

His friend might think he could win more if he continued gambling, but yes, there is no guarantee about it, and what OP did was just save his friend from getting addicted and losing more.

Many gamblers can't afford to stop gambling when they win; most of them double or triple their bet, believing that they could win more. Greed always comes next, and this kind of gambler never thinks the worst thing awaits them. 

Putting a shoe on OP, I don't argue with him but rather let it go. Greediness is hard to stop, and people are willing to argue, thinking that they are right. They only realize their wrongdoings and remember the help of other people when they suffer major losses. 

What you did I call it a double edged sword no matter that many people will say well done to you.May be I will say well done too if your friend would have continued and lost but if your friend had continued and may be hit a really huge win and placed a ticket with so many events maybe,then there is nothing to say well done here,you maybe have removed his chance to win big,to make a change and impact in his life.I know that most likely addiction would come after that huge win but that is another story and we are discussing the behavior in here,while many will claim you did well I simply don't know if you did well or not as we don't know what would have happened if you let your friend play.

You're right and I completely agree. It's impossible to do well in this situation. It's one of those impossible choices, like whether you tell your loved ones that you have a deadly disease, or not. If you tell them, you will be honest with them but they will worry, if you don't they'll surely ask why you kept it a secret for so long and feel like you did not trust them.
I'd try to persuade him to leave, but if that failed, I'd let him make his life choices.

No you are not wrong by lifting him from the gambling hall, because that is what a wise friend will do. But apart from lifting him probably you would have approached him in a more reasonable manner. Lifting him up sounds like childrens play.

It all depends, since gambling is a game of luck who knows maybe he could have win or likewisly lose. It is not certain but it is under probablity.

It's a personal decision and not mine to predict. If he is a gambling addict, he will continue. But if he is not then he will stop.

No, you did not do anything wrong but what you did was not yet necessary. I mean you did the right thing at the wrong time. From your narration, he won three slips out of four that he played which is a sign of luck. Since he was using the money won to play, you should have given him some chance to see what will happen next before you interfere.


Nobody can answer this accurately. There's 50/50 chance of losing and winning here. In most cases, a win is highly predicted since he's not chasing his losses. Although banking on luck rides in cases like that also result to lose sometime.


This is where you were supposed to come in for your friend. Suppose he continue playing and lose all the money won but still wants to keep playing, you have no any option than to push him away from the gambling center. I doubt this happening thou since he admitted that he knew what he was doing at the center on your way going home.

I don't know how your friend feels but to me, you're acting a very good and caring friend and should be commended for your action. There are friends who would've allowed him continue gambling until he loses all he had initially won. Maybelline he would not appreciate your thoughtfulness to stop him from gambling further now, but he'll definitely admit that you did him a huge favour the next time he goes to that same place alone. I just want you to know that what you did is exactly what I'll do to my own friend in other to save him from regretting.

Real friends will prefer you to hate them rather than see you dig your own grave. That is a real friend and he might be too emotional now to see how lucky he’s gotten for having a friend like that but he will look back and be very thankful forever.

I am sure it is also a relief for a friend to save their loved one from a possible loss.

He will understand what you did later on because you know what it's like to lose a lot of money from gambling. He is tempted to think that he can make money out of gambling because he is on the run and winning, but there will be a point when he will run out of luck.

You did the right thing. He is becoming too greedy, and becoming too greedy will lead you to lose a lot. He will thank you later.

The most challenging thing in gambling is to stop when you are winning. We are tempted to push our luck when luck is something that happens, not something we have.

Most times we win, lose and we win again that is gambling for you and what makes you the final winner, is your ability to stop gambling win you already won your bet, that way you walk away with your winnings, but the memment that you continue to gamble when when you believe you can win more, at that poinyon ward you start losing a rapid level.

For the ops to ha e been able to pull his friend off when he already win indeed is a good act to safe the winning instead of continuing to play and ending up with loses as final occurrence.

Depends on whether you have forced him against his will or convinced him. I would not uphold the decision on forcing your friend  from gambling shop as it may result in the opposite effect and force him to turn back after you close eyes. But, if you convinced him by making out a case in favour of potential harm to his pockets/health/enything-else which could  resul from  his   stay there then you was of service to your friend.

Winning is the best feeling in the world. But it can can be misleading, particularly in gambling. A siren melody lures you in with promises of more. Soon, you're too deep.

You saw your friend win and sought to defend him, like a true friend. Maybe it was abrupt, maybe he didnt appreciate it, but you were looking out for him. Thats true friendship Here's the true lesson: gambling is chance. Big wins and losses are possible. More wins make you feel invincible. That thinking is risky.

So chat to your pal. Justify your actions. Show him you care. Maybe he'll realize that sometimes the best way to win is to go. True friends tell you the truth, even when its painful. A friendship is worth more than a lottery.

I think you did the right thing, but your friend will find it hard to accept it and he will accept it when he plays again and it turns out he loses.

Once again, like many discussions, what happened to your friend was just a coincidence, a coincidence at the beginning of his gambling he was able to win which made him continue to think that he would be able to continue winning his gambling sessions if he continued, but in fact play longer the chances of losing everything were very possible.

Anything can happen because your friend becomes curious which will make him play again but he can also stop because he feels sorry for losing money.

I watching him carefully to see what he was going to do but when i noticed he was going to stake again it was then i stopped him and asked the cashier not to stake the bet again before lifting out of the casino hall. Although it may sound so crazy but it's worth doing because when the lose comes we would bear pains, that is why I don't really want to involved myself seeing him losing after winning 3 consecutive times. Gambling is tempting but the ability for us to understand when to gamble and when not to gamble makes us a responsible gambles but people don't usually take note of this, instead they gamble till their pockets get emptied.

You did good to stop your friend when you did. There is no telling what would have happened if he continued gambling that day. From what I have read in the OP, I believe he would have lost his money chasing losses. In the OP, you told us that your friend won you and others in a game of checkers. Those victories have boosted his confidence in himself and he will be feeling like it’s his lucky day (superstition is common trait among many gamblers) and these two factors can push him into making more bets even when he is losing.

That's great that before he did the lifting thing, he still asked for a permission to his friend. It is only inappropriate if his friend did not agree with it and we still do the thing that we are planning to do even if we can say that it was beneficial for the bettor because each of us must still have their own rights and they can do whatever they wanted to do even if it was wrong in the eyes of the others.

We can only hope that they can still realized it at the end and won't lead to a more fatal situations like addictions, doing a crime, and loss of life. Apart from that, there are still gamblers who have a control of their selves but I think we can also know this if we are observing them for a very long time already.

It's just that they can sometimes do crazy things either intentional or not and we see this coincidentally resulting us to rattle and mind their own business. Gambling is mostly a game of luck and luck is a complicated thing but there is still a way to test if our luck is there and if it is still there. Let us only remember that gambling is a highly addicting activity, so we must be careful because we can unintentionally continue even though we already know that our luck is not there or not there anymore.

You are right because when we lose, there will be a wanting to continue playing gambling and recover our losses. You do the right thing to stopped him from continuing gambling so he can see that you as his friend not letting him losses more. Gambling can tempt people easily so that is why we must know when we stop gambling and related to your friend, he must realizes that you reminds him from the other losses that he can get if he decide to continue gambling. He must realizes that gambling can tempting him and difficult to stops gambling. He still have the other days to playing gambling and not just that day so he can prevent the next losses.

Nope, never.

Regardless he end up become a millionaire, homeless or still same, he will think at that time he would make a lot of money and he always think you as someone who stop him to change his life.

Never try to control or influence something that related to money, it will end your relationship.

Whenever people gambles and they win they will always think that day is there best day to continue gambling without knowing that it is just a kind of trap lure the gambler dip into commission to gamble before he would start losing all that he has won previously, but a reasonable gambler is not meant to get carried with the constant winning instead after winning twice it's left for him to quit for that day and distance the gambling site before regrets follows.

You have made reasonable points, winning comes with so much excitement such that when one can not control it, it becomes problematic and most times we will definitely end up losing all that have won, understanding entering and exiting from gambling at every given time is very important as to enable us not to overly allocate our time, energy and resources, what we have been discussing here is very important and is very beneficial to majority of us, especially when we do talk about gambling with only the amount we can afford to lose which is also very important, as not to become addicted.

Wow your friend truly has zero self control.

I'd say good on you for wanting to get so deep in helping him, but most likely even if he was a child and was acting like that, his father would rather let him cry and make a fool of himself rather than physically pick him up. To his eyes you violated his adulthood and freedom of choice but really his train of thought is very irrational right after this point. You can't expect to keep winning. If you win two times in a row already it's time to go home and enjoy the pot of money you won, however small. Since your friend couldn't understand that you acted like a guardian angel.

If he keeps being angry at you it's on him. This is such a story though, if he's a good friend he should appreciate it down the line.

Matter of perspective here. To the friend that got pulled out when he was on a roll, you're the asshole, he's feeling it, he's winning a lot of games, and then you pulled him out, that's a massive dick move if I do see one. But then again, I can see why you had to pull him out of his seat. The idea to go there was for a different purpose, to be side-tracked is a massive inconvenience. If I were you, and if he's really a genuinely good person, I'd talk to him about this and make him understand why you did such things, if he still sees malice behind your actions, then the friendship isn't probably worth it. Worse comes to worst, you'll be keeping a chronic impulsive gambler on your squad which wouldn't make for a solid roster. You gotta look out for yourself too after all.

That's the best thing you can do, besides that he already win. Imagine lossing those winnings plus your friend's capital will only give your friend more reason to gamble again and again to chase the loss. If your friend still complains for what you did until today or until you get together again, then there's really a problem to him. Without self-control people always ends up become broke.

Yeah, that will be what they think so that will be the reason for them to continue gambling and hopes that they can win more money. They don't see something wrong will happen if they decide to continue gambling because their minds has been close by the wanting of make more money from gambling. That will gives them risks because they can lose their money including their win money if they decide to continue gambling after they win. The worst is they can becomes addicted to gambling when they feels difficult to stops from gambling. If they already win, they must realizes that is the time for them to stop gambling and not decide to chase more winning as that will not easy to win more money. If they can stop gambling, they will have a chance to withdraw the money or save the money in their account so they don't have to deposit the other money to playing gambling.

Temptation is high, but our discipline should be even higher.

I feel nostalgic at the mention of draft (draughts/checkers) as it used to be my favourite game growing up. It's still till date, though I haven't played it for a few years now. For me, I see it as a replica of Chess. Both of them demand critical thinking playing them.

Don't guilt trip on that. You didn't do any wrong by dragging him out of that scene. Your action was what any reasonable friend should do. By the way, if your friend was so sure of his winnings as he alleged, why didn't he increase his stakes in the few games he played on that day? That's what you should be asking him. Winning first two or three rounds wasn't a guarantee that he would win the next one if that was his consolation. But then, that has often been the mindset of gamblers.

He should be thankful to you as you got out from the gambling shop before he lost it all. We know that in the long run, the likelihood of losing is always greater than being a winner. So at that moment, he was in the positive side when you asked him to leave the shop. No one could tell if he will win more if he continued his games. For sure, if he lost all the money that he won, the tendency of playing more will always be there because he would want to chase his losses. Unless, he has no more money to fund his games. All in all, it was better for you to asked him leave the gambling premises while you were on the winning side. Most gamblers will go home broke because they usually continue their games up until they lost it all.

it's one thing to listen, but it's another different thing to put it into practice.... When he was overwhelmed by the fun and urge to keep wagering, that's it.... That's the feeling that ushers in a pile of tickets into your hands, removing almost everything in your pockets.

You haven't done anything wrong fo sure, just that sometimes, if they gotta allow their greed to override them, I'd allow him to his fate if he insisted.
There's a high chance that he would have requested for more funds even when he had nothing left in his wallets...The initial winning will only introduce a certain pattern to you that you'll definitely wanna keep trying.

Imagine assuming u e OP did not follow his friend to the betshop, this is how he would continue gambling because he is winning and before you know it he will start losing and empty his bankroll before he will realized that he should have quitted the game earlier when he as winning.

OP, your friend will not appreciate what you did for him until another day that he will be alone gambling and the same thing will happen to him but you will not be there to save him, that is when he will be grateful to you on preventing him from gambling too much.

There's one answer that I know with this scenario. IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS
There's a chance that what you did was right, but there's also a chance that what you did was wrong. What if your friend is right that he could win more since he got the momentum already and winning that much money? What if you are right that your friend might lose his money after winning that much.

I mean this kind of scenario can go both ways because nobody knows what can happen into the future. It's good that you secured his winnings by lifting him outside of that betting shop, and because of that, I can say that you're a good friend. On the other hand, what you did could spark some problems along the way, and there's a chance that he might not go with you when he's gambling because when he's winning, you could spoil all of his possible winnings by putting him outside. The answer to all of your question is "Nobody knows exactly what can happen" because like I said, it can go both ways.

Did you do something wrong? I don't think so because you're just protecting your friend for possible losing all of his money, and if I'm on your shoes, I might do the same thing as well.

Actually this depends on the perspective but if you look at the conditions of the victory obtained I think you are not wrong for reminding and stopping your friend when he is in a condition that can be said to be quite ambitious because of the victory obtained. You know that in the end the 3 wins obtained could be lost if you continue to force to bet so the right decision is actually to bring and stop your friend when he is in such a victory.
But maybe for this decision it could disturb your colleague's emotions and it is very natural because seeing from what happened, he will definitely not accept when he is winning but is prohibited from continuing to gamble because he has gained ambition for gambling and thinks he will win again.

That is a behavior that I think is responsible friend and it is not a mistake even though surely your friend will be a little upset because he is under the influence of gambling but that is normal because I would also be a little upset if I won but stopped (when gambling using emotions because of lulling victory) but if you think further then of course your decision is the right thing.

You should know how much we have talked about gambling and winning /losing especially when someone wins huge amount the next is to exit the casino site and i can't be a dum who can't apply this rules and teaching over here, this shows that we aren't doing we are teaching here and expressing here because if i leave him to gambling and he finally lose money i might still be blamed for not resisting him to continue gambling and to avoid such scenario it would better i putted on such acts to stop him on time although i know that there could be possibilities of him winning much but then, in gambling the first and second winning are always trap to get entrapped into the gambling site to lose one bankroll.

The gambler should understand the game properly,because the game should be end with the winning.This was the major reason for the gambler to play for the longer period of time.To restart the game,the gambler should need of more money.If they end the game with the winning, the gambler will have money for the next game.If they end the game with the loss,they won’t have any dollars for the future game.Also the mindset of the gambler will be change to the bad wibe.The gambler experience may help the gambler to make the sudden win with their experience,but the patience is the needed one in the game changing moment.

Gambling must be understood well before gambling. If one starts gambling without understanding gambling then he will never enjoy the joy of gambling. To enjoy the real joy of gambling we should understand gambling and then gamble.  .I've seen people who start gambling in new situations never do well because they don't understand the game of gambling which leads them to lose.

You are right and if you'd not moved him outside of the gambling shop, he might have lost his money back. No one stays too long with gambling in a session and goes home so happy especially if they had the initial luck.

Yes and No. No, because you did the right thing. Yes, because you didn't let him learn bitterly by experience. That would have silenced him instead of making a mouth and blaming you.

No one knows the outcome of gambling unless played.

He would have learned bitterly by then and know how to caution himself next time.

Nope, you did a good thing.
A gambler who is experiencing a big loss or is getting a big win, they will forget themselves and their minds will be dominated by the thought of wanting to get a bigger win. And gamblers who get big wins like that are very difficult to give advice through soft words and you do it in the right way to lift them from gambling.
Maybe at that time he will be angry with you, but after the anger is gone, he will definitely thank you if you save him from greed.

Sometimes to help a gambler you don't have to use soft words but you have to use actions.

That's true. In general, it's clear from the post that friendship with a gambler is hard. Look: if he loses in front of you, the gambler will blame you for not taking him away from this establishment. And if he wins, he will say that it's only his merit and he's a great guy.
As a result, it turns out that gamblers are mostly selfish people who will always find someone to blame, and are unlikely to praise anyone for their victory.

Your friend having won 3 games out of the four games he played was more than enough profit for the day, but like you did mentioned, he simply allowed greed to overtake him and you being a good friend tried to rescue him from possibly losing all that had previously won and maybe even more, but it's unfortunate he did not understand, but don't mind him and be proud of yourself for doing the right thing.

Some one like me wouldn't have bothered him when he refused to go home, I would have just left him there to gamble to his satisfaction, if at the end of the day, he end up winning even much more, I will gladly celebrate with him, but if he ended up losing all the money he had won previously,  and maybe even much more, as a friend, I will sympathize and console him for the loss, atleast, rhat will teach him a lesson next time.

Well, sorry but to be honest with you, this two questions are not really necessary, since none here aside from you know this friend you are talking about in person, you are the one close to the person in question, so you are in the best position to give the most accurate answers to this.

It is sad to say that many gamblers never appreciate the help of other gamblers to protect them from addiction. As gamblers, one thing we should have to know is to control ourselves. It may not be easy, but I believe we can do it if we care for ourselves as well. Greediness has nothing good it gives to us but terrible losses. We have to keep in mind that we gamble not only to win the jackpot and money but also for us to enjoy whatever happens. And most of all, we know how to appreciate others' advice because some things they see might not we see personally. That is why we don't get angry but rather be thankful. 

Agree with you, As a gambler it is very important to always keep yourself under control, and always have confidence in yourself, and keep your spirits up. Greed and addiction will never give you positive results, they are always negative. Once you get addicted to gambling it will only lead you to losses. Moreover, due to addiction, many times we do not realize our own mistakes, and when others realize those mistakes, they warn us, so we should be grateful to them, not angry. And their advice should be followed and gambling should be viewed only as a pastime and not as a means of earning money. It only leads us to harm.

Taking him away from that gambling shop is a mean of instilling discipline on him truly he could have been tempted to continue to gamble more due to greediness consequently might ended up losing all his already won bets, this is common and rampant among gamblers it's a like a spirit tempting them to continue betting with guarantee of winning streak whereas it's just a spirit of addiction, this is a more lesson learnt here and that is how addiction to gambling is started if caution or discipline is not imbibed on any gambler to stop it is very disastrous.

You are right, but the fact is that the friend might keep wondering what could've happened if he was left playing an additional round, and that makes him not any good either. I think that it is important to learn a lesson by oneself. On the other hand, the OP was a good friend, but is it worth being shouted in the way back home (and possibly also in future) for wanting to do a favor to a friend?

There are times that gamblers are drowned by their belief that they have a lucky strike ongoing and that a friend of his must be feeling that moment which is why he cannot stop.

You are right, a reasonable friend will drag him out of there when he is winning and that's the best action that he could do, I don't think he should be blaming himself for doing the right thing.
Now, there are gamblers who would hate their friends for doing such a thing, in that case, that's on him. You are not responsible for what will happen next and if ever he blames you for losing the next time, tell him he should look for a new friend that will accommodate his gambling actions.

You took him there and you got him out. That’s should be your bone of contention. From what I find in the OP, it was your idea to go to the betshop and so, whatever the case was, it was always going to have its root with you. If the case was a lose, am sure your friend would have blamed it on you to have brought him in a gambling shop.

No need to feel bad about it, you just might have helped your friend save some money and that’s what friends do. He got his luck and it’s okay to be contented haven’t won few tickets.

We all know that gambling can be really addictive, and continuously doing that and making it a hobby can lead to losing more money. I think it's pretty easy to get caught up with excitement and the possibility of winning more money.

You acted out like that because you were concerned for him. If he still comes back, I don't think it's your fault anymore. It's because he wants to, and you do that is good, in my opinion.

With the reasoning of the "possibility" of winning more, it's just a risk. It shouldn't be like that. You are a good friend, but if he continues, he needs to realize what he is doing on his own.

You acted out of love and concern for you friend because you're probably more experienced or more disciplined about gambling. Some decisions are not easy to take but sometimes you need to take drastic steps inorder to save a friend from making mistakes so I believe that you did the right thing. Gambling requires sell control, without it a gambler can unknowingly become obsessed and at that point he needs a force that will bring him back to reality. Every gambler must fight that urge to over gamble, it starts with overconfidence to increase wins and chasing loses, they're the keys to addiction.

Pulling someone out when they are on a winning streak is sometimes gratitude but sometimes disgust, if a friend is mentally strong enough they will be grateful when their friend helps them not get caught up in the game and the material things in front of them but sometimes it is a reverse anger. In general, kindness does not need a return, gratitude is good but someone reflects with anger, let them continue and honestly, we have qualified as a good friend, there is nothing wrong with continuing on their journey.

         -       I don't see anything wrong with what you did, because you just showed up as a person and as a friend. You did the right thing, and I admire you for that, because it is said that a true friend tells the truth and reminds a friend when he is doing something wrong.

Maybe when your friend thinks he's going to win, he doesn't know that the opposite of what he thinks will happen, and that's what happens to most gamblers.

I totally agree! The right thing was done, in my opinion.
His friend may or may not understand it, but he should appreciate it in the future regardless.
Who knows what would happen in the long term without that?

What you said is true but most people are not as thoughtful as us specially the gamblers. There are various reasons why gamblers have a different mentality when they gamble. They might believe on lucky streak or some superstition. A fried of mine believed the gambling luck depends on the movement of the planets and placed bet when the specific planets aligned. The act done by OP might be a noble one but I hardly believe his gambler friend thinks so.
The better thing to do was to tell the person about how you think and don't get involved physically. OP and his friend might have been too close to get physical but most gamblers won't take it in a positive way.

You are right.
It may end badly otherwise for the person even if he would try to be nice.
It would be really great if OP's friend would eventually appreciate it.

That is how gambling tempt people to chase their win. People lose control because they want to win more money from gambling. But they must know that not many gamblers can win more money but they can lose their money.

The temptation will become bigger if they think they can win for more without think about the losing. Their greediness will also make them forget to stops gambling after they win. But his friend should thank you to @OP because he can drag him out from gambling before something bad happen.

We hope that we have a good friend that will always remind us especially in gambling. They can take care of us and watch us while gambling so they can do something when they feels something different happen.

There are two possibilities in this case that you could be said to be wrong, indeed you would be considered wrong for asking him to go and secondly you could also backfire from the defeat he experienced, it's all a factor of your friend's own greed.

My understanding is that you are not wrong, in my opinion you have saved him from real losses, what you did accidentally saved him from the suffering of gambling, Let him grumble that it's important that you have done something useful even though he himself doesn't admit it because of his arrogance and greed.

My advice in the future is that if he still blames you for gambling, in the future don't come or take him to the casino again, let him come alone, so that you don't backfire on him, I'm sure he will regret his own behavior.

I think you are totally hitting the point.
Helping once is great, but if the person doesn't want to learn - what can you do?
Pretty obvious to me.