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What has house edge to do with expected losses in a win/lose ratio??
House edge will be accounted for wins and losses profit wise, not for the game outcome  :: .
The chance for a win is only over 42% while the rest is accounted for losses or pushes. In other words, your calculation makes 0 sense.
Another case where you didn’t get your facts straight, very sad to see. You should use your time for something useful and not for this nonsense.

What has house edge to do with expected losses in a win/lose ratio??

House edge will be accounted for wins and losses profit wise, not for the game outcome  :: .

The chance for a win is only over 42% while the rest is accounted for losses or pushes. In other words, your calculation makes 0 sense.

The house edge determines the percentage of bets you will lose long-term.

For example, if the advertised house edge is 0,5%, then long-term you should lose 0,5% of your bets placed.



When you claim the chance for win is only 42%, you claim that the house edge is 8%, right?

Because 50% minus chance to win 42% = 8% house edge!

But when you say the house edge is 8% and Stake says the house edge is only 0,5%, one of you is lying, right?

LOL, house edge doesn't determine how many bets you will lose, who told you this nonsense. House edge is how much MONEY you are losing at a cetain amount of bets, this has absolutely nothing to do with a projected win/loss ratio.

You can win 50 games and lose 50 games and still lose money, because of the house edge.

You should gets your facts straight man. Also, around 42% is the possible winning chance in any BJ game, anywhere. That doesn't mean that the house edge is 8% because you are ( as always ) forgetting about games that end in a push. You have been told this a million times in here and still you are posting your nonsense numbers, slowly this feels like you are just trolling and know you are actually wrong.  ::)

LOL, house edge doesn't determine how many bets you will lose... You can win 50 games and lose 50 games and still lose money

"I got like 3 bday bonuses, one birthday email, one message and bonus from my host and now recently the stake birthday bonus from my host again."

^thanks for the detailed reply. Since Blackjack we are talking about here, the outcome of the game depends on the players decision too which gives impact to the game.

The house edge set is when you play the game flawlessly using the blackjack table matrix but it will varies and increase significantly if you play differently from the strategy. This accusation is very hard to prove since the game needs to be check individually for the decision making that he use on a single game. If the game is dice then it’s easy to conclude with huge sample.

LOL, house edge doesn't determine how many bets you will lose, who told you this nonsense.

^thanks for the detailed reply. Since Blackjack we are talking about here, the outcome of the game depends on the players decision too which gives impact to the game.

The house edge set is when you play the game flawlessly using the blackjack table matrix but it will varies and increase significantly if you play differently from the strategy. This accusation is very hard to prove since the game needs to be check individually for the decision making that he use on a single game. If the game is dice then it’s easy to conclude with huge sample.

Basic math and statistic told me this.

When you make 200 bets at 0,5% house edge, then you statistically will lose 1 bet, because 200 x 0,5% = 100% of 1 bet.

For example, when you make 201 bets at 0,5% house edge, then statistically you will win 100 bets and lose 101 bets.

The 1 bet you statistically will lose more after 201 bets, that is the house edge.

If the house edge is 0% and you make 200 bets, then statistically you will win 100 bets and lose 100 bets = no bet more lost = no house edge.

For example, when you make 205 bets at 5% house edge, then statistically you will win 100 bets and lose 105 bets.

Therefore, the number of bets you statistically will lose more than you win is the house edge!

The higher the house edge is, the hgher is the number of bets you statistically will lose more than you win.



I played the game flawlessly and therefore should have experienced the advertised 0,5% house edge.

I offer to everyone to check my 180,900 bets if I played flawlessly!

Jesus Christ, what kind of math is this.
You CANNOT calculate win/loss ratio with house edge, how often do we have to tell you that??

If you make bets you win 42.22%, lose 49.1% and draw 8.49% . First of all obviously you need a huge sample size for that.
Second I highly doubt you always used the same exact bet size and as I have mentioned before. I am 100000% convinced not all of your 180k played games are blackjack, yet you claim so. Who plays at a site and plays 180000 hands of BJ while not playing any other game, stop capping man! You can prove it by showing all of history (alternatively through stake stats or whatever the site is called). But until then I believe you are straight up lying about these numbers.

By the way, I am starting to believe BlackyJacky and this KingBJ guy are totally the same person.

Listen up, you're a complete idiot, trying to rip off our community with your lies and misinformation. You think you're better than us, smarter than us, but you're not. We're both blackjack players who love the game, and we won't let a couple of RuneScape mods or Reject Squad dictate the rules on online blackjack. Your accusations are weak, your logic is flawed, and your statistics are garbage. You're trying to ruin the reputation of honest blackjack players, and you're failing spectacularly.

We won't let you control the conversation. We won't let you dictate the terms of engagement. We'll expose your lies, debunk your nonsense, and show you the truth. We'll show you that the house edge is real, that the laws of probability apply, and that you're nothing more than a fraud trying to take advantage of unsuspecting players.

So, get ready for a battle of wits and facts. Get ready for a showdown between two passionate blackjack players. And get ready to watch you crumble under the weight of reality. Because the only thing we have in common is our love for the game, and we won't let anyone else run the show. We'll stick together, stand tall, and fight back.

If you make bets you win 42.22%, lose 49.1% and draw 8.49% .

You or your alt account can claim that you made 180k bets on BJ, but until now we have never seen anything.

The standard house edge for Blackjack is around 0.5%. This means, over a large sample size, players can expect to lose around 0.5% of their total bets.

A larger sample size (millions of bets) would be ideal for a definitive conclusion. However, 180,000+ bets is still a significant sample, and significant deviations from the expected outcome warrant further investigation.

House edge doesn't directly determine win/loss ratio. However, house edge does affect the long-term expected win/loss ratio. In a fair game with a 0.5% house edge, the win rate should be close to 49.5%.

You mean 1 restless sore loser that doesn't understand simple math. I make it easy for you, nothing will come from this because first of all you don't show any documented bets. You or your alt account can claim that you made 180k bets on BJ, but until now we have never seen anything.
Stake statistic on site only shows all bets, every play on the site, I could also claim that all of my over 7 million wager is from BJ, fact is though, it isn't.
And again, as Text also wrote, house edge has NOTHING to do with how many bets you win, it determines your payout. It's the same with sports, you can win 100 bets on 1.95 and lose 100 bets on 1.95, in the end you wagered 200$ and lost 10, because of the HOUSE EDGE. Even if you won 102 bets and lost only 98 would still have lost money, that's how house edge works. And not like what your are making up here.

Keep posting your nonsense about your bs weekly and monthly, I am actually happy now they don't pay you anything because you don't deserve anything for your blackmail here.

So keep dreaming of a win % of 49.5% while every site on earth states the winning chance at BJ is 42.5%.  ::)

The Curacao Gambling Control Board accepted the license application by a provably criminal online casino operation and gave them a "Certificate of Operation" during the license application process!

Yes, so that they can rig their games and call it provably fair.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/D5ygGlNHV1

Yes, so that they can rig their games and call it provably fair.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/D5ygGlNHV1

Posting a reddit article from 2016 helps your "cause" a lot I must say. Like nothing changed since 2016, right? Also, stake didn't even exist at that time.  ::) So much desperation.  ;D

But yeah, keep posting... .

I don't want to say stake.com originals is rigged because I don't have any proof, ...

I don't want to say stake.com originals is rigged because I don't have any proof, but I feel like there's something wrong with stake.com Originals. Here's why I feel this way: Every time I click or double my bet the next result is a loss (often), even with low odds. This has happened to me many times in Limbo as well. For example, on my first spin playing Limbo, I went all in and the result was x1 (0). This doesn't just happen on Stake.com; it has also happen on other casinos I played. Because of this, I don't play Originals anymore, except if there's tournaments. I'm more focus now in sportbetting.

I'm not a blackjack player so someone can help me out here so I can come up with what I think.

What's the percentage of wins and losses is normal throwing out pushes.

Win 52.5% and lose 47.5?

The odds of winning in blackjack can vary depending on the variation of the game and the strategy used by the player. The industry standard on the probability of a win in a typical shoe blackjack game is 43.3%, a push is 8.7%, and a loss is 48.0% if you use the basic strategy. When we ignore the pushes, the probability of winning is 47.4%, and the probability of losing is 52.6%.

it's all just mind games on our end. as a 1.1x dice enjoyer, i lose way too many times as well than i would like when i go all in. (please don't try this, it's stupid)
but i'm sure no shady business is going on in the background as most of the original games are provably fair, and you can always verify the results using third party tools like the one from BTCGOSU: https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/

no harm checking the results from time to time, just to be sure.

Without much experience on this field [so my words can perhaps be treated as empty air], IMO the idea that originals being rigged can be somewhat thwarted. On a past case regarding Stake's Minesweeper game, a rep of CG even went to a length to create an account here [granted, he didn't state it openly that he's the CG staff, but it can be very easily inferred], built his own verifier,explain to the player [whom... rather have similar trait with this OP] how he can test with his "home-made" verifier, and shown that [IIRC] random sampling came out verifiable.

A game can be provably fair, meaning you can check if the outcome you get is right one you should get from your client seed, the server seed and the nonce but lying on this house edge. How could you check that here? I didn't find how they've calculated it. For a simple game like dice it's easy to calculate because you just need to look at the range of numbers you should get to win among the total of numbers eligible for drawing. But for a game with more complex rules and an optimal strategy to follow, like blackjack, it's not easy at all.

BTW @BlackyJacky may I ask you, how often do you change your client seed and "rotate" the server one? Do you keep the default value for the client seed or do you use a "personal" seed? If it's a personal one, do you change it each time, or do you always use the same seed?

Unlimited decks in play.
Insurance is an optional side bet only available when the dealer reveals an Ace face card.
If both the player and the dealer have natural blackjack, then the result is a push.
If the dealer has natural blackjack, game concludes and insurance is paid if taken.
You can only split once.
You cannot hit on split aces.
You can double on any first two cards.
You can double on a split.
Dealer stands on soft 17.

What is your theory why the 2 RuneScape players and the chat moderator do not compensate me, even though I have 100% proof that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged and I unjustifiably lost around 30,000 USD?

It would be more undeniable if you were able to identify how the game could be, or actually is if you are right, rigged IMO.

I never said that the card dealing system is rigged, I say that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged and have 100% proof.

The Stake statistics is part of their in-house Black Jack system, as it reflects (or should reflect) what I experienced there.


You appear to have not understood the information I have posted?

I'm not statistician neither mathematician so I can't tell if the figures you put forward to the public are enough to prove the game is actually rigged or not, unfortunately.

There is also blackjack and insurance winnings not paying out 1:1 on top of pushes. And when you split or double down, the stake is doubled. In addition we don't know if you have always placed the same stake for all rounds or if you have followed some martingale strategies.

I don't know how much it would cost but you could also ask to an independent gambling certifier like eCOGRA, BMM Testlabs, GLI, iTechLabs, QUINEL or a smaller one, if they could test it and analyze it. You can play with one single satoshi so they could test it rather deeply without spending much money IMO.
https://europebestcasinos.com/casino-guide/casino-test-labs/

No, I'm not but AFAIK neither you unfortunately.

No, I'm not but AFAIK neither you unfortunately. You are complaining since 2 years and 350+ posts now but you still don't seem to have convinced much people and to have been able to get anything except a red tag from several members sadly. That's why I think you should look for a real statistician or actuary, able to endorse your argument. Or maybe just an AI at least, does ChatGPT agree with your conclusions for example? I don't know how much it would cost but you could also ask to an independent gambling certifier like eCOGRA, BMM Testlabs, GLI, iTechLabs, QUINEL or a smaller one, if they could test it and analyze it. You can play with one single satoshi so they could test it rather deeply without spending much money IMO.
https://europebestcasinos.com/casino-guide/casino-test-labs/

when I requested my data from Stake, they asked me to provide an identifiable image, despite being KYC3 verified. If their hands are truly clean, why not provide my data and hand history? Here’s a hint: when I was about to reach Plat3, my wagerings weren’t being added to my account, and I even recorded a video documenting this issue. I’ll use this as evidence, as I firmly believe Stake's original games are rigged. They’re clearly avoiding sharing the data with me.

Would you be willing to help me get my data so we can verify this together? What do you think?

Also, here is my recent chat with their support, I feel they are AI powered and they are known to use fake images of real people from the internet.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/12/12/pKDv3.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/12/12/pKpn8.png

I love Zarko's reply because the way you address him is just hilarious.
You are blaming a customer support agent for your situation. Like it's his fault or whatever.  ::)
They stole your monthly, oh buhuuuu. Why do you even want a monthly when they are such a bad company? Why don't you move on to a new site you can blame? Stake and Duelbits have the checkmark, you can get "scammed" somewhere else now don't you think?
The last phrase is the best though: "I am really worried for my safety." . I am actually worried for your sanity at this point.  :o
The desperation is real. I suppose you lost all you got and this is your last straw. Blaming them as much as you can trying to blackmail them long enough to give you something back. Others tried that before you and failed, so this won't work.

Technical data???

STAKE WON'T PROVIDE ME ONE AND THEY INSIST ITS IN PROGRESS.

Peace out, everyone. I’m officially done updating my threads here, as I no longer want to be a part of or interact with this criminal empire. The reality of platforms like Stake is far darker than what’s presented, and after seeing how deeply embedded they are in the world of sports sponsorship (like F1, football clubs, and cricket), it’s clear they have a massive grip on things.

Stake.com’s connections in Curacao and their partnerships with massive entities only further solidify the illusion of fairness, with people like holydarkness working to keep that facade intact. The truth is, anyone can get a license for a site like Stake, and the operations are far from transparent. These games are designed to keep you hooked, using everything from raffles to promotions to manipulate vulnerable players into continuing the cycle.

I urge you all to evaluate your life and what’s truly at stake before and after joining platforms like this. Stay vigilant. Don't let yourself be deceived by flashy promotions and sponsorships. I'm stepping away for good, as I no longer wish to engage with a platform rooted in these practices. Stay strong, think critically, and take care.

I would like to let you know, stake is a site with a signature campaign here; do you believe people who are sponsored by stake will reply to your accusations? No.

I say yes, even @AHOYBRAUSE talked a lot of shit about the bonus system from Stake and he wearing "STAKE" signature even some other member who are wearing other signature casinos will mostly respond as well. However, It depends on the person too..... cause typical user like @OP he starting gambling by think have a good math > thinking can beat the system > but resulting in lost > he thinks, my calculation is right and I was not wrong.

I been dealing with typical user like these, even those from the same country "India". He tells and opened public case, "STAKE" manipulation the mines system based on the clicked mouse of user. He doing what's @OP did, doesn't believe and just spamming for the case and other things even we all know every hash game after the start button started generated a hash to determine the result (all of you seeing or doing, is part of the animation).

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In the end, he spamming in here > still believe he was right > telling all people sock puppets from here. I always recommended you better find some other resource you can use for open the public case. Example like CASINO GURU, and he CASINO GURU mostly taken the same conclusion like user from the forum but he blaming CASINO GURU it self.

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By the way, most signature members are also gamblers. They use the money they receive for gambling as well. If they feel the case was a mistake from the casino, they will request the user create a public thread to avoid a member like you said (who is mostly not a player) or just defend the casino because of his signature. A few years in gambling casino, some of case are really always have a problem
- Typical user like @OP.
- Sportbet user.

I more like it a case from casino or slot sector.

True, wearing the signature doesn't mean you have to like everything they do. Since I am a long time member on stake there have been many changes in the past that I didn't like, and I voice my opinion. Yet there are also many things that I do like, and I am talking about those as well. Just because I am in a campaign doesn't mean I blindly defend the site or close my eyes when problems arise.
I take it the way I see it and I think even a casino would appreciate that honesty. Some other people don't work that way, I have a certain someone in mind from a different casino that blindly defends without knowing anything about the site. Just saying people make things up while clear evidence of bs gets posted.  ::) That's not how it's supposed to be.

There is a reason why stake is the market leader up until now.

As of today, I’ve been dealing with an unresolved data request with Stake.com for over three months. After I submitted a request for access to my personal data, including wager histories, I was asked for an identifiable image, despite being KYC3 verified. This request raised serious concerns, as it seems they are trying to stall rather than provide the transparency I’m entitled to under GDPR.

In our most recent interaction (December 13, 2024), I was told that they cannot expedite my request due to high volumes of inquiries and that the team responsible for handling it is beyond their control. I was also informed that the matter is actively being addressed, but no timeline or concrete actions were given. The communication lacks clarity, and I’ve even had to document instances where my wagers weren’t being counted as I approached Plat3, which I believe points to potential rigging of their original games.

Despite repeated requests for updates, I’ve been met with generic apologies and vague assurances. This delay and lack of ownership is not only frustrating but concerning, especially given the sensitive nature of the information I’ve requested.

As I continue to seek resolution, I urge anyone dealing with similar issues to consider their options carefully and demand better transparency and action from Stake. If anyone has experienced similar delays or concerns, I would appreciate any insights or suggestions on how to proceed further.

I’ll continue to update this thread as the situation unfolds.

That said, I don’t see the scam by Stake.

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

Here's an overview: The Odds of Winning Blackjack: The player has about a 42% chance of winning a hand, while the dealer wins around 49%. The remaining 9% percentage results in ties (called a push). .

Stake’s so-called fairness has always been under question, but stories like these reveal the larger pattern of exploitation and deception. Let’s ensure their tactics don’t go unnoticed.

So you say the house edge is 49% losing a hand minus 42% winning a hand = 7% house edge?

My friend, 9 percent is push; don't you read the end of the sentence? You are destined to lose in blackjack, this is not special to Stake.com.

I even wrote this myself but this guy is just a joke. Not only is he unable to read but also simple math seems to be a big issue for this person. Having played 180000 hand of BJ (so he claims) and doesn't even know the numbers is just insane.
Casinos love players like him obviously. Absolute clueless degen that deposits and whine at the end.  ;D

My friend, 9 percent is push; don't you read the end of the sentence?

I don't understand what is the accusation here?

snip this nonsense

Looks like someone went on a toxic rant

I don't know what to answer anymore to the OP; you have also mentioned the push factor above. But, I honestly believe that he is in a

mind-state that Blackjack is a game found to bankrupt the casinos not the players.

I am still waiting for OP to actually accuse Stake.com with proof (even some video). I will support or oppose it then. I don't understand what is the accusation here? He should sue the guy who found the blackjack game in his grave...

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no one is going to read your wall of texts, just stop with your explanations already.

you have been going on and on and on with your "math" for over a month now,

and you are yet to prove any real evidence that stake originals are rigged.

maybe you are just wrong? did that idea ever cross your mind?

no one is going to read your wall of texts, just stop with your explanations already.
you have been going on and on and on with your "math" for over a month now, and you are yet to prove any real evidence that stake originals are rigged.

maybe you are just wrong? did that idea ever cross your mind?

How can you get rich when you statistically lose 0,5% of each bet?

How insane are you?

Why does whale.io engage insane people to represent its brand?

Happy New Year to all players and gambling truth-seekers!

While most are celebrating, Stake.com continues to operate a house of cards—a fraudulent empire built on lies and rigged games, ready to collapse under the weight of truth. Let’s shake this crooked facade to its very foundation.

Stake Originals: A Crumbling Façade

Stake aggressively promotes its “Stake Originals,” games they fully control. Why? Because these games are their playground of deception, where RTP, house edge, and outcomes are manipulated at will.

The Evidence Speaks for Itself:

Player 1 (@BlackJacky):

Total Bets: 180,904
Wins: 78,285
Losses: 86,612
Net Loss: 8,327 bets
Deviation Beyond Max: 9.3x higher than statistically possible.

Player 2 (KingBJ):

Total Bets: 119,156
Expected Loss (0.5%): $7,392
Actual Loss: $60,000
Deviation Beyond Max: 24.66σ.

These numbers don’t just stretch the truth—they annihilate it. Even in gambling, randomness has rules, and Stake.com blatantly violates them to rob its players blind.

AHOYBRAUSE: The Jester of Lies

This delusional Stake puppet had the audacity to claim a 0.5% house edge means a 99.5% chance of winning. 🤡 Do you even understand what you're saying? Your math is as shaky as Stake’s fraudulent foundation.

You’ve failed to provide any credible defense, instead hiding behind petty insults and childish banter. How much does Eddie pay you to peddle this nonsense? Here’s a tip: Instead of trolling forums, sign up for a statistics course. You’re embarrassing yourself.

HolyDarkness: Another Piece of the Farce

Joining AHOYBRAUSE is HolyDarkness, symphonizing Stake’s lies as if we’re all too stupid to notice. Guess what? Your fake confidence and hollow arguments are as transparent as the rigged blackjack games you defend.

Eddie and Stake.com: The Cracks Are Showing

Stake’s CEO, Eddie, admitted in chats that RTP can be modified without notifying players. Translation:

Your chances of winning are whatever Stake wants them to be.

The advertised RTP is a smokescreen—they pull the strings behind the curtain.

Big players are targeted for higher losses during recovery bets.

Stake’s empire of deceit is crumbling. Their manipulation is no longer a secret, and their failure to comply with GDPR requests further exposes their shady practices.

Your House Is Shaking, Eddie

Eddie and Stake, your carefully crafted facade is cracking under the weight of truth. The players are waking up, and your days of deception are numbered.

AHOYBRAUSE and HolyDarkness, you’re nothing but court jesters in Eddie’s crumbling castle. Your hollow arguments are as weak as the house of cards you represent.

Call to Action

Players, it’s time to fight back against this fraud:

Demand transparency: Force Stake to release unaltered betting data for public scrutiny.

Report Stake: File complaints with gambling regulators, particularly the Curacao Gaming Control Board.

Expose the truth: Share your experiences, evidence, and this post far and wide.

Final Blow:

AHOYBRAUSE, HolyDarkness, and Stake.com—your facade is shaking, your foundation is cracking, and the truth is roaring through the cracks. 2025 will be the year we bring down this house of lies.

Happy New Year to all truth-seekers. To Stake.com and its puppets: Your time is up. The storm is coming. 🌪️

AHOYBRAUSE still did not explain why he quoted the percentages of winning and losing a Black Jack hand, but he meanwhile informed us that he is

I ROFL’d on ‘The Jester of Lies’

Yes he did, several times, with links:

https://www.winstar.com/blog/blackjack-odds/#:~:text=The%20player%20has%20about%20a,cents%20in%20the%20long%20run.
https://www.onlinegambling.com/blackjack/odds/
https://www.mrgreen.com/blackjack/strategies/blackjack-odds
https://www.gamblingzone.com/uk/blackjack/odds/

I could post 10000 more sites that ALL tell you that chance of winning a BJ hand are 42.2%. But hey, since reading and understanding basic math is not your forte I can understand that this must be very confusing for you.
Guess you better ask someone in person to explain this to you and your "friend".  ::)

Yes he did, several times, with links:

https://www.winstar.com/blog/blackjack-odds/#:~:text=The%20player%20has%20about%20a,cents%20in%20the%20long%20run.
https://www.onlinegambling.com/blackjack/odds/
https://www.mrgreen.com/blackjack/strategies/blackjack-odds
https://www.gamblingzone.com/uk/blackjack/odds/

I could post 10000 more sites that ALL tell you that chance of winning a BJ hand are 42.2%. But hey, since reading and understanding basic math is not your forte I can understand that this must be very confusing for you.

Guess you better ask someone in person to explain this to you and your "friend".  ::)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

What has house edge to do with expected losses in a win/lose ratio??
House edge will be accounted for wins and losses profit wise, not for the game outcome  :: .

That's incorrect.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what House Edge means.

House Edge has nothing to do with percentage of winning vs. losing hands --

it has to do with the percentage of a player's original bet that goes to the casino on average.

https://math.info/Misc/House_Edge/

Oh, I see this was addressed in the 2nd post:
 

What has house edge to do with expected losses in a win/lose ratio??

House edge will be accounted for wins and losses profit wise, not for the game outcome  :: .

But you should input the winning percentage set on the game to determine the win/loss ratio if it will match to the outcome or not. 300K is indeed a good size for sample imho which can already use to check the math.

I played the game flawlessly and therefore should have experienced the advertised 0,5% house edge.

I have read it all and one of the wise members @Eternad already pointed out the obvious mistake in all the data provided by OP;

But you should input the winning percentage set on the game to determine the win/loss ratio if it will match to the outcome or not.

THE RIGGED IN-HOUSE GAMES BUSINESS IS FLOURISHING!

A New Era at Easygo

As 2024 comes to a close, it’s been a year of transformation and progress. Behind the scenes, we’ve made significant changes across Easygo to prepare our verticals for high performance in 2025 and beyond.

From unveiling a new brand image to evolving our leadership structure, everything we’ve done this year has been focused on preparing us for long-term success and solidifying our position as industry leaders.

Bijan and I started Easygo with a simple vision: to reimagine the online gaming industry. What began as a four-person team has grown into a global operation with over 1,000 members. This growth isn’t just about team size. It’s about scale, ambition, and aligning our team while maintaining a lean, focused approach.

Our global presence spans offices in:

Australia: Melbourne (2 offices), Sydney

Serbia: Kragujevac, Trstenik (2 offices), Belgrade, Lopaš
    
Colombia: Bogotá
  
Peru: Lima
  
Brazil: São Paulo

Soon, we’ll expand to Rome, Italy, and Ontario, Canada, symbolising our scale and commitment to delivering ultra-localised, entertaining experiences in every market.

At its core, Easygo is a technology company. We’ve consistently led the industry, and maintaining that leadership is more important than ever. We must continue to raise the bar and adapt as we grow.

As part of this transition, Easygo unveiled a refreshed brand image this year. In the new year, we’ll introduce our renewed mission, vision, and values with a big reveal for our team, which I’m excited to share.

These principles will serve as our north star, embodying the essence of Easygo’s commitment to everyone involved in our journey, from team members to fans, creators, and partners.

Shared Consciousness

I’m more committed than ever to staying deeply involved in the day-to-day. This hands-on approach is what made Easygo, Stake, and KICK the success stories they are today. Staying close to the action is a principle I hold at the core of leadership, and it’s how we all remain connected.

We’ve built a culture rooted in shared consciousness, where we’re all ‘all-in.’ Everyone, from our C-suite to our operational teams, is expected to roll up their sleeves because we believe that relentless attention to detail is key to delivering the bigger picture.

As we scale, it’s essential to preserve this ‘all-in’ mindset that got us here. Watching our teams and leaders step up, take on challenges, and grow their skills has been one of the most rewarding parts of my journey as a founder. Every individual plays a powerful role in driving Easygo’s continued success.

Stake's Global Expansion

We’re working hard to expand our tech infrastructure to be more agile and ready to enter additional regulated markets. This year, we solidified our presence in Colombia and Peru, making significant strides in LATAM. Shortly, we’ll launch in Brazil under its new regulatory framework. We’ve also announced plans to enter Italy, setting our intention to apply for the new licence tender following an acquisition earlier this year.

Colombia marked its first anniversary with a celebration, as Diana Otalora, our General Manager of LATAM, was recognised as ‘Leader of the Year.’ Her leadership, along with our senior team of women, continues to drive our expansion across LATAM.

Looking ahead, we remain focused on entering regulated markets, as highlighted in our interview with Forbes. While Stake has been widely recognised as a crypto casino, we’ve expanded payment options to meet player preferences and adapt to regulatory frameworks in new markets. With ambitious plans for Stake, we aim to further localise our offerings in 2025, ensuring we continue to meet the unique demands of players worldwide.

iGaming Innovation

Twist and Massive, our two game studios, have completed their first full year of operations, and their contributions have been astonishing. They’ve played a crucial role in delivering unique and exclusive gaming experiences to Stake.

But that’s just the beginning. We’re focused on further enhancing our content by investing in innovative companies, putting more resources into our game studios, and elevating our proprietary RGS, Carrot, into something the iGaming industry has never seen.

We’re also excited to bring back Stake Originals, crafting a new wave of games that recapture the spirit of what first set Stake apart: fast-paced, easy-to-understand mechanics and simple, engaging designs. This fresh collection of Originals will remind players of our early days while delivering innovative experiences that redefine the excitement of iGaming.

Source: https://medium.com/@edcraven22/a-new-era-at-easygo-488caf84a443

Though clownfish AHOYBRAUSE is the one who will become rich when he loses 0,5% of every bet amount!  :D

That is 100% correct!

If I placed 5 x 100 USD, then I statistically will lose 5 x 0,5% from 100 USD = 2,5% from 500 USD = 12,5 USD.

Problem is that I lost 10 times more than the advertised 50,25% losing percentage = 52,3% losing percentage!

180,900 bets is indeed a good size to prove rigged games!

This delusional Stake puppet had the audacity to claim a 0.5% house edge means a 99.5% chance of winning. 🤡 Do you even understand what you're saying? Your math is as shaky as Stake’s fraudulent foundation.

When the house edge is 0,5%, then logically the chance of winning 99,5%.

This is what I think and I never, ever said that I think house edge and chance of winning is the same!

Jester of lies, haha. U are lying to everyone here and worst of all to yourself. ::)
Anyway, when you operate so many accounts you should not think editing or deleting your posts would mean these posts are gone for good. You have made 264 posts deleting almost 60 posts, even more with your blackjacky account that deleted around 150 posts. They are not gone, we can still see them all.
Your (and you alts) nonsense is on https://ninjastic.space/search?author=BlackyJacky&content=%208%2C327 for everyone to see.
Click on it and you will see where the number 99.5% came from. Blackyjacky wrote:

Proof: https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8791/zh68mnqo_png.htm

After I laughed at him about this he edited it to 49.75% and calls me insane, yet the truth and evidence is there, hahaha. U are s pathetic.
Proof: https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8791/iavav66v_png.htm

Of course 99.5% is a great win chance, that's why he edited it.

The chance of winning is 99.5%?? Nice! Guess I will play BJ and get rich then.

that's why he edited it.

Keep thinking you will win over 49% of hands because the house edge is 0.5%.

The numbers are 42, 49 and 7, that's the math for blackjack.

These are the percentages to win and lose a hand in Black Jack.

How much is the house edge, when the chance to win a hand is 42% and the chance to lose a hand is 49%?

@nutildah

I clearly said that sickheads should not post in this thread, yet you ignore my order and continue with your hallucinations!

So, I disagree with your arguments because you don't listen. Not about the winning %, not about the house edge. You are so wrong with your numbers and just blend out every argument. Think for ONCE what house edge actually is and then think again. I don't defend stake, I myself lost a lot on BJ, that's why I quit originals BJ, simple as that. But I disagree with your calculations and the way you present yourself in here to the fullest because it's straight up wrong.

uh no, haw dare he go against your orders. what are you gonna do about it?

and btw, you and your dum dum friend are the only sickheads here. everyone if free to post here, if you 2 dum dums don't like it, feel free to fuck off and spare us from your stupidity.
seriously, how many times does someone need to explain to you how the house edge works for you to understand that it has nothing to do with how many bets you win or lose?


@AHOYBRAUSE, you are just wasting your time with those two retards. they don't care.
first, they were replying with their wall of texts and numbers, since that didn't work, all they have left are insults and slander, classic loser behavior.

So you "2" clowns are riding on the 99.5% shit and once you get exposed for writing it it was just a misunderstanding, haha. Yeah right.

I said that the chance of winning is 99,5%, means from every bet amount placed you statistically get 99,5% back.

I did not say that the chance to win a bet is 99,5% and a 99,5% chance to win a bet would be a 49,5% player edge, opposed to the advertised 0,5% house edge!

Only a sickhead is able to hallucinate that I said the percentage to win a bet is 99,5%!  ::)

Anyway, I give you the EASIEST example of how house edge % doesn't mean it's the same winning %.
Look at sport, betting on handicap +/-. Both results have a winning chance of 50% because it's either for example +3.5 points or -3.5 points, there is no other result possible.
Still guess what, you will not get 2.0 in odds, not even close. Many sites give you 1.85 for both results. You bet 100$, you get 185, even though it's 50/50 and you "should" get almost 200$. Guess, why! House edge!

It doesn't matter what the winning percentage is, it has nothing to do with house edge, absolutely NOTHING.

House edge is just a number that determines how much the casino would earn OVER TIME even if you win 50% of your WAGER How hard is that to understand and WHY are you so stubborn?

So, I disagree with your arguments because you don't listen. Not about the winning %, not about the house edge.

You are so wrong with your numbers and just blend out every argument.

But I disagree with your calculations and the way you present yourself in here to the fullest because it's straight up wrong.

The house edge determines the chance of winning!

Hahahahaha, so you did not say the chance of winning is 99,5% ?? I clearly showed evidence that you did and that's why you edited it after. What a clown. You had so many chances to finally at least admit you are wrong about the numbers, yet you can't even do that. Admiting you are a failure is hard I guess.

And also you yet again said "The house edge determines the chance of winning!" . Didn't you say it's not the same when I confronted you with this nonsense? You made my morning, hahaha.
You are such a loser, honestly. I am actually happy you lost every penny you had because you are a cancer to this forum. When confronted with the truth and straight up facts you derail every single word people say.
And looking at the way you write and the sort of huge replies with utter nonsense I am 10000% convinced you and kingblowjob are the same person, impossible to deny.

Anyway, thanks for this amusement. Eddie sends his regards and wishes you come back to stake. We both are begging you.
Leaving this brain cell shrinking thread now, just to not give you any more attention.

It doesn't matter what the winning percentage is, it has nothing to do with house edge, absolutely NOTHING.

Only thing that's interesting here is the fact that both blackyjacky and kingbj21, despite denying being controlled by the same person, have been away from from the forum for several days just to reappear the exact same day and continue their tirade of nonsensical and delusional posts.

I mean, come on.  ::)

Anyway, let's go Whale and also, let's go stake! Looking forward for the weekly bonus today, yum.

Only thing that's interesting here is the fact that both blackyjacky and kingbj21, despite denying being controlled by the same person, have been away from from the forum for several days just to reappear the exact same day and continue their tirade of nonsensical and delusional posts.

@pakhitheBOSS

Are you the BOSS of the insane hallucinators?  :D

Well, at the risk of incurring a new wave of harassment, I think its worth pointing out that BlackyJacky is game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254), and kingbj21 uses Grok or some other AI (https://sapling.ai/ai-content-detector/03b0d759a14ea00ed56da3e9ac2e2b21) to write all their posts for them. The hard-headedness and failure to respect reality by both accounts suggests they could possibly be the same person.

What happened to your website game-protect?

Funny that all of the sudden, now that I gave this guy a feedback 10 days ago and his alt account kingbj21 today he talks about feedback, though never mentioned it before. And the kingbj account quickly gave retaliation feedback not only to me but also to pakhitheboss. Like we care about feedback from a forum cancer clown.
Yet another proof this individual and his other account are alts. So desperate to blackmail, clinging on to his last straw trying to get his losses back.
A notorious loser in life and on the felt, yet others are at fault. Absolutely pathetic.

I came across your game statistics and had a few questions. I'm not sure if these have already been addressed.

You use 0.5% as the expected loss, but a 0.5% house edge only applies when playing perfect basic strategy under optimal conditions—such as the dealer standing on soft 17, double after split allowed, a 3:2 Blackjack payout, and surrender permitted, among other factors. Did you play perfect basic strategy, and are these optimal conditions present in Stake Originals Blackjack?

I also noticed that your statistics don’t include the number of pushes and Blackjacks. Since Blackjack pays 3:2, this is a crucial factor that seems to be missing.

Additionally, did you use consistent bet sizes over 100k hands? If bet sizes varied, then the total wagered and expected loss become less relevant, as you could have won small bets and lost larger ones, skewing the results.

That being said, the probability of a normal win is around 42%, which is quite close to your numbers.

Stake advertises the house egde with 0,5% and I played the optimal drawing strategy.



1) Pushes are neither a bet win nor a bet loss and therefore are irrelevant for the bets statistics.

2) When you win a Black Jack, then you win 1,5 bets and the 1,5 bets won are in the bets wins / losses statistics.



I lost 4,6% of my bets while I should have lost only 0,5% of my bets and the bet size is irrelevant in my case.



The probability to win a hand is 42%, but at Black Jack the house edge is determined by how many bets you will lose.

Advertised house edge of 0,5% means you will lose 0,5% of your bets long-term.

You hallucinate that house edge is how much money I will lose, but if I do not lose bets, then I do not lose money!  :D

If I made 100 bets and lost 50 bets and won 50 bets, how much money did I lose?

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

the “house edge” represent the average gross profit that the casino expects to make from each game.

The house edge is defined as the ratio of the average loss to the initial bet...
For example if a player knows the house edge in blackjack is 0.6% he can assume that for every $10 wager original wager he makes he will lose 6 cents on the average.

The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It has nothing to do with the number of wins vs. losses. Its not really up for debate. You can keep claiming otherwise, but your claims are unfounded and nobody is going to take you seriously.

Can you find a source that supports your claim?

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/house-edge/

https://knowyourodds.net.au/house-edge/

I didn't receive an answer to the following question: Do you count a won split or double as two wins and a loss as two losses?

Splits and doubles significantly increase the total number of bets placed in the long run. If this isn’t accounted for, the numbers lack a solid foundation, as there will be many instances where doubling is necessary on 9, 10, or 11, and splitting on 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, etc.

Of course do they need to count a doubled bet as 2 bets won or lost and a split as 2 bets won or lost.

But as the Stake software counted my total number of bets won and lost, I do not know how they counted it.

But what if the Stake software counts your doubles and splits as a single bet?

This means the 78,285 wins don't account for the additional winnings from doubles and splits.

Additionally, the number of Blackjacks significantly affects your total wins. I don't think the Stake software counts a Blackjack win as 1.5 wins.

Could you separate the number of regular wins from Blackjack wins?

This has a substantial impact on your Expected Value (House Edge), especially since you mentioned that the total wins also include Blackjack wins multiplied by 1.5

I don't think the numbers you crunched can be used for directly calculating the house edge.

No, you lost it again. You're once again equating "cents" with "bets", which doesn't make any sense seeing as you are playing Blackjack and not all payouts are equal relative to the starting bet.

Again, wrong. If you read the sources I posted carefully, you will see that none of them say this.

Why would they count a single bet as 1.5 bets? You only need to bet once to win a Blackjack.

LOL, he still doesn’t get it. House edge doesn’t determine how many bets you are losing, it’s how much money you will lose even if you win 50% of your bets. How hard is that for your brain to comprehend?

Honestly, you have been told the same thing a million times and still you close your eyes when being faced with straight facts.

Pure entertainment in this thread! And by the way, your argument will only bring you more laughs so you might want to change your "strategy“ when blackmailing stake.  ::)

Ahoy, the professional clown for Stake, still dancing around the real issue.

Your little lecture on house edge is cute, but let’s talk real facts:

Stake’s blackjack is provably rigged, which means house edge isn’t the only factor—manipulated RNG and unfair gameplay seal the deal.
Stake is banned in India for money laundering and illegal UPI deposits, yet here you are running damage control like a loyal puppet.
Your “high-roller” privileges come at the cost of silencing victims, but keep collecting those breadcrumbs while the real players expose the truth.
If you think this is "blackmail," you clearly don’t understand the difference between whistleblowing and fraud exposure. But that’s expected from someone whose only strategy is bootlicking Stake for scraps.

LOL, he still doesn’t get it. House edge doesn’t determine how many bets you are losing, it’s how much money you will lose even if you win 50% of your

Do you know what percent means?

In mathematics, a percentage (from Latin per centum 'by a hundred') is a number or ratio expressed as a fraction of 100.


How is the house edge physically enforced?

If the advertised house edge is 0,5 percent, I will statistically lose 0,5 bets per 100 bets.

As the casino does not deduct the house edge from each bet amount, the house edge is realised by the number of bets you lose per 100 bets.

Cute how you post the exact same nonsense twice in different threads.

You know what your main problem is?

I mean aside from the obvious problems you have you are thinking you can treat BJ like a coin flip game. That's not how it works.

Coin flip, with a 0.5% house edge is an easy game.

You chose side A or B and win 1.98x, simple.

Yet BJ is different because your chance of winning is only 42%.

Why then is there a different house edge advertised you always scream. Easy answer, pushes, doubles and blackjacks.

In coinflip you can't double your hand when the cards are in your favor ( like 10 or 11 against 5 or whatever). Also you can't get 2.5x which you get for blackjack. This all goes into the house edge calculation but it has no impact on the winning %.

In other words, the chances to win are smaller (42%) but occasionally the payout possibility is higher (3x when winning a double or 2.5x when hitting BJ) than just doubling your money in those other 0.5% house edge games.

Is that really that hard to understand?

What is nonsense?

That the casino collects the house edge through the number of bets you lose per 100 bets?

If you hallucinate this as nonsense, please explain how the casino collects (not mathematically / statistically) the house edge?

Yes, that is nonsense. Nobody thinks that except for you. Nobody is going to be compelled into accepting your definition over the time-established definition, which doesn't have anything to do with the number of bets won or lost.


Several people have already provided you with this information, and you ignored it to continue repeating your same incorrect definition. Its pretty obvious what you're doing here, and its a massive waste of time for you to think you'll get anything out of it.

What I write is not pro or con stake, it's straight up con you because you are too stupid to understand the difference between basivally everything surrounding betting.
Oh and by the way, didn't you claim you played book perfect BJ?

What about this hand then? Posted by you in the stake forum in one of your silly rants. Ah and btw, you also claimed you never changed the bet size.  ::)

 :D :D :D :D

Guess you don't play that perfect then when you stand on a hard 15 vs 10.

Yes, that is nonsense. Nobody thinks that except for you. Nobody is going to be compelled into accepting your definition over the time-established definition, which doesn't have anything to do with the number of bets won or lost.

Several people have already provided you with this information, and you ignored it to continue repeating your same incorrect definition.

Its pretty obvious what you're doing here, and its a massive waste of time for you to think you'll get anything out of it.

How does the casino collect the house edge?

the casino doesn't "collect" anything,

the house edge is a statistical advantage that guarantees profit for the casino over many many many bets.

If the casino does not collect anything, then nothing goes to the casino and there is no house edge.

How does the casino collect the statistical advantage from the players?

if you can't handle losing like an adult, don't gamble.
an entire thread filled with bs, just because you and the other you gambled, lost, and are now crying about it.

🚫 This is not a request. This is a warning.

I think this discussion is pretty much over. It's OP against everyone else.

However, there are some flaws in your calculations. For example, you claimed to have played an optimal strategy, but I saw a screenshot where you stood on a hard 15 against a dealer’s 10. Plays like that significantly increase the house edge.

Additionally, it's unclear how Stake handles Blackjacks, doubles, and splits in your win/loss calculations.

If these factors aren’t properly accounted for in the statistics, any conclusions drawn from them are unreliable.

Lastly, playing such a high number of hands guarantees losses over time.

If you're truly into statistics and probabilities, why would you play so many hands of Blackjack when you know it’s a -EV game?

The best way to maximize your chances is to bet big and play as few hands as possible—letting luck work in your favor.

If you had bet $50 per hand for 180,000 hands, you would have lost approximately $45,000 if you played optimal strategy and maintained the same bet size.

However, if you always stood on a hard 15 or 16 against a dealer's 10, the house edge would increase to over 2.0%, meaning your total losses in the same scenario would be around $180,000.

Remember:
Those who defend illegal practices today might find themselves explaining their actions tomorrow. Think carefully about which side of history you want to be on.

It cannot possibly be made any clearer than this. Every time game-protect bumps this thread with some more horseshit, I will repost your post. Thanks for that.

💥 Final Notice:
Stay out of this thread. Your platform's credibility isn't improved by bullying victims of illegal practices. Focus on your own issues instead of coordinating attacks on legitimate complaints.

Remember:
Those who defend illegal practices today might find themselves explaining their actions tomorrow. Think carefully about which side of history you want to be on.

I think this discussion is pretty much over. It's OP against everyone else.

However, there are some flaws in your calculations. For example, you claimed to have played an optimal strategy, but I saw a screenshot where you stood on a hard 15 against a dealer’s 10. Plays like that significantly increase the house edge.

Additionally, it's unclear how Stake handles Blackjacks, doubles, and splits in your win/loss calculations. If these factors aren’t properly accounted for in the statistics, any conclusions drawn from them are unreliable.

Lastly, playing such a high number of hands guarantees losses over time. If you're truly into statistics and probabilities, why would you play so many hands of Blackjack when you know it’s a -EV game? The best way to maximize your chances is to bet big and play as few hands as possible—letting luck work in your favor.

If you had bet $50 per hand for 180,000 hands, you would have lost approximately $45,000 if you played optimal strategy and maintained the same bet size. However, if you always stood on a hard 15 or 16 against a dealer's 10, the house edge would increase to over 2.0%, meaning your total losses in the same scenario would be around $180,000.

oh no, what are you gonna do about it? cry some more?

So you're threatening us now?

First, take a big step back. Then literally fuck your own face.

Spare me the fake ‘analysis,’ noviesol. You’re not an arbiter of strategy—you’re a mouthpiece trying to discredit victims. Stood on 15 vs. 10 once? That’s your big ‘gotcha’? 🤡

Your ‘math’ ignores RTP manipulation, algorithmic bias, and Stake’s shady practices. This isn’t about my strategy—it’s about a rigged system.

And since you love statistics, here’s one: 100% of shills like you vanish when regulators step in. Stay in your lane. You’re no expert—just another Stake puppet.

But in what world would a company generating over $2.5 billion in revenue risk everything by rigging their Blackjack Originals game?

That could cost them their license and player base.

They make far more money running a legitimate casino than engaging in shady practices.

Even if they tweaked the odds slightly in their favor, they might gain a few million more—but at the risk of losing everything.

I've never played on Stake, and I'm not a fan of the platform. Actually, I've lost thousands on other online casino platforms, particularly while playing Blackjack.

But in what world would a company generating over $2.5 billion in revenue risk everything by rigging their Blackjack Originals game? That could cost them their license and player base. They make far more money running a legitimate casino than engaging in shady practices. Even if they tweaked the odds slightly in their favor, they might gain a few million more—but at the risk of losing everything.

At this point, it’s clear you’re just a sore loser, obsessing over this for years—I’ve seen posts from you dating back two years. Accept the reality: you lost the money, and you’re not getting it back. No regulator is going to step in to help you; online casino regulators are some of the most passive entities in the industry. If you're holding onto hope that they’ll intervene, you’re only setting yourself up for more disappointment.

Instead of blaming the casino and attacking anyone who disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to move on. Because I haven't seen a single person supporting your statistics.

I've never played on Stake, and I'm not a fan of the platform.

Instead of blaming the casino and attacking anyone who disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to move on. Because I haven't seen a single person supporting your statistics.

the casino doesn't "collect" anything, the house edge is a statistical advantage that guarantees profit for the casino over many many many bets.

Such a stupid business model.

I've never played on Stake, and I'm not a fan of the platform. Actually, I've lost thousands on other online casino platforms, particularly while playing Blackjack.

But in what world would a company generating over $2.5 billion in revenue risk everything by rigging their Blackjack Originals game? That could cost them their license and player base. They make far more money running a legitimate casino than engaging in shady practices. Even if they tweaked the odds slightly in their favor, they might gain a few million more—but at the risk of losing everything.

At this point, it’s clear you’re just a sore loser, obsessing over this for years—I’ve seen posts from you dating back two years. Accept the reality: you lost the money, and you’re not getting it back. No regulator is going to step in to help you; online casino regulators are some of the most passive entities in the industry. If you're holding onto hope that they’ll intervene, you’re only setting yourself up for more disappointment.

Instead of blaming the casino and attacking anyone who disagrees with you, maybe it’s time to move on. Because I haven't seen a single person supporting your statistics.

This casino definitely seems sketchy to me. I don’t see any mention of a license, so they likely don’t have one. All the games they offer appear to be home games. There are certainly much better places to gamble your money.

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

You say the casino reduces the house edge from every bet?

When it comes to Blackjack, house edge has nothing to do with the number of bets won and lost, but rather the average loss (in dollar amounts) incurred by a player after each bet, calculated by taking the average (dollar amount) loss over one million bets. That's how Stake "collects" their house edge. There, your question has been answered.

How retarded are you?? Nobody is collecting house edge. House edge numbers just guarantee a min profit for the casino because of the reduced % in payouts. Instead of 2.0 you get 1.98 in odds for a 50/50 chance, that's where the house edge is. There is no collecting anything.
Jeez, you really are too stupid to understand the simplest things yet you are trying to put words in other people's mouths. Truly embarrassing!

If you can back up your claim that the game fairness system is rigged then you should provide solid evidence that even an arbitrator like Casinoguru will be convinced.

I stand by my claim, and here's the hard truth: I’ve been requesting full access to my betting data from Stake for the past 147 days under GDPR—data that would expose the true nature of their "provably fair" system. Despite my repeated, compliant requests, Stake has refused to provide this critical information.

This refusal isn’t a technical glitch—it’s a deliberate act of opacity that undermines any claim of fairness. Without access to the complete, unaltered records, even an independent arbitrator like Casinoguru would be left in the dark. The very act of withholding data speaks volumes: it’s proof that something is seriously amiss.

Until Stake complies, the evidence of their rigged system remains in plain sight. The lack of transparency and blatant non-compliance is the strongest evidence we have, and it only reinforces my claims.

Then why not Casinoguru request it to the casino instead of you if you have a lead that the Stake games really have a problem with their provably fair system because they will surely entertain you due to risk involved since Stake has a lot of customer.

IIRC Stake already mention that they already provided you data for your overall bets. I’m not really good technical aspect of the provably fair system.

House edge numbers just guarantee a min profit for the casino because of the reduced % in payouts. Instead of 2.0 you get 1.98 in odds for a 50/50 chance, that's where the house edge is.

@nutildah: The casino collects the house edge from every bet.

Then why not Casinoguru request it to the casino instead of you if you have a lead that the Stake games really have a problem with their provably fair system because they will surely entertain you due to risk involved since Stake has a lot of customer.

Because there’s no point on arguing about the house edge if you are just relying to the stats of your result. Better to come up with proof about their fairness system technicality error.

As a blackjack player, I do feel sometimes that house blackjack is rigged due to the result that frequently bankroll wins but it’s really hard to prove that since everything is transparent through the use of probably fair system.

I’m not really good technical aspect of the provably fair system.

As a blackjack player, I do feel sometimes that house blackjack is rigged due to the result that frequently bankroll wins but it’s really hard to prove that since everything is transparent through the use of probably fair system.

If you can back up your claim that the game fairness system is rigged then you should provide solid evidence that even an arbitrator like Casinoguru will be convinced.

Because there’s no point on arguing about the house edge if you are just relying to the stats of your result. Better to come up with proof about their fairness system technicality error.

Most probably he already brought up this case while the arbitrator itself instruct him to get more substantial evidence to prove his claim before they entertaining issue like this.

He is persistent on proving his conclusion while It’s odd that he can’t gain support by an arbitrator if he really have something solid.

• Forced Hits & Busts: Their system can pressure you into hitting more often, increasing busts.

• No Counterplay: When you bust, the house doesn’t even need to draw—your bet is already lost.

• Winning Streaks Don’t Offset Losses: Even an 8-win streak can’t outpace the built-in advantage of you busting first.

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I'm breaking my own rule by responding to your AI-generated idiocy, which I vowed to stop doing, but people need to know why its nonsense. And frankly I don't even know how you tricked AI into writing fake bullshit for you, but you did, so congrats on that.


OK, how? You can't just spout nonsense claims with nothing to back them up and then expect anybody to believe you.


No shit sherlock. That is how Blackjack has always worked.


True, that's part of the house edge. This has been known for 70+ years.

Give it a rest. Nobody's paying you one rupee. Just stop gambling.

Stake is doing goes beyond simple legal ambiguity. Stake offers INR deposits, but they do so through unauthorized third-party vendors who are not registered for GST and do not comply with income tax laws. This isn’t just about individual players "taking a risk"—it’s about Stake systematically evading Indian tax laws and laundering money to Australia via Gibraltar, a known offshore jurisdiction for such operations.

One of their third-party vendors, Priyank Enterprises, was arrested for illegal financial activities involving huge amounts of money. Eddie himself has an FIR lodged against him in India. If their operations were truly above board, why the use of shady intermediaries and mirror sites? Why did they face an ISP ban in India?

Regarding your point about cryptocurrency: while Stake offers crypto deposits, it’s not as simple for many users in India. Crypto transactions are strictly scrutinized in India, and many players are unfamiliar or uncomfortable navigating crypto regulations, which Stake takes advantage of by encouraging easy fiat deposits, even if those deposits are illegal.

To be absolutely clear: this is not about blackmail—it's about accountability. I have already reported Stake's operations to the Cyber Crime division in India and the FBI in the US, because of their money laundering practices and tax evasion activities. If they think they can operate without consequences, they are mistaken.

I also want to highlight the unethical role of Indian cricket icon Krishnamachari Srikkanth. Under his affiliate ID "https://stake.com/?c=bleedblue" & "https://stake.com/?c=Cheeka" he has promoted IPL betting with Stake, raking in millions while promoting illegal gambling activities to Indian users. This behavior makes him a poor role model for the sport and the country. He should be held accountable for encouraging players to deposit via illegal methods and for profiting off the vulnerabilities of his fans.

Stake’s actions put Indian players at risk of serious legal trouble while benefiting from these illegal practices. My intention is simple: bring attention to Stake’s unethical activities, ensure affected players get justice, and expose anyone complicit in promoting illegal and harmful practices—including celebrities who should know better.

Why use illegal third-party vendors and mirror sites? 
Why funnel money through Gibraltar? 
Why push fiat deposits to unsuspecting Indian players while ignoring crypto scrutiny?

The real issue is AML violations, tax evasion, and money laundering.

Do you want your loss back because Stake commits the criminal offenses of AML violations, tax evasion and money laundering or do you want your loss back because Stake's in-house Black Jack is provably rigged?

Who is the regulator for the illegal UPI deposits?

How did Stake force you to do illegal UPI deposits?

Moreover, an unlisted video (view it here (https://youtu.be/OMwVt4znvD8)) shows exactly how the process is manipulated.

Stake: "Welcome to stake.com, your premier platform for online banking!  :D :D :D

Made my day!

Though they barely address matters here, this board is routinely scanned by one of their representative who then forward the matter to their complaint team. So, quite likely, their team has been made aware of this thread. Hopefully, they can overturn what "can't be overturn" by their live support.

Otherwise, as you've escalate to CG, and if you did nothing wrong, you can rest assured that CG will find and made a ruling that Stake's decision is unacordingly, and most likely than not, Stake will comply to CG's ruling.

Though they barely address matters here, this board is routinely scanned by one of their representative who then forward the matter to their complaint team. So, quite likely, their team has been made aware of this thread. Hopefully, they can overturn what "can't be overturn" by their live support.

That's not what I said at all.

How can they "collect a house edge" from a bet if the player wins a Blackjack?

House edge numbers just guarantee a min profit for the casino because of the reduced % in payouts. Instead of 2.0 you get 1.98 in odds for a 50/50 chance, that's where the house edge is.

You don't even stop to think whether or not what you're writing makes any sense.

The house edge is the average loss of each bet across several bets.

@Rickperry69

Nice story, but to prove that a game is not fair is very easy and simple:

If the experienced house edge is higher than the advertised house edge plus the maximal possible deviation = not fair!

In my case, 0,5% advertised house edge plus 0,4% maximal deviation = 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge.

Compared with my experienced 4,6% house edge, this is 100% proof that the game (or the system) is not fair!

@Rickperry69

Nice story, but to prove that a game is not fair is very easy and simple:

If the experienced house edge is higher than the advertised house edge plus the maximal possible deviation = not fair!

In my case, 0,5% advertised house edge plus 0,4% maximal deviation = 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge.

Compared with my experienced 4,6% house edge, this is 100% proof that the game (or the system) is not fair!

It also seems clear that you're not open to the opinions of others and only believe in your own numbers.

Your result is NOT 4.6% house edge, you just lost 4.6% of your games. That's even good because you are supposed to win only 42% of hands.

Some interesting info from @holydarkness

Info 1)

Stake scans this board!

[...]
PS: I'm the one in charge of forwarding them, in case Staff misses these topics, therefore every Stake.com Scam accusation will be viewed / analysed very soon.

Info 2)

If you did nothing wrong, Casino Guru will make a fair ruling Stake will follow!
[...]
Wait, Casino Guru closed my complaint about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack!  ::)

I think there might be a slight misunderstanding about the Infinite Deck.

For example, the chance of drawing a ten-value card in an 8-deck game is:

128/416 = 30.77%

In an Infinite Deck game, the chance of drawing a ten-value card is:

16/52 = 30.77%

The probability of drawing a ten-value card is the same in both the Infinite Deck and an 8-deck game. The key difference is that, in an Infinite Deck, the probabilities remain constant as cards are dealt because the deck is essentially infinite. On the other hand, in an 8-deck game, the chances shift as cards are dealt and the deck is depleted.

Therefore, the Infinite Deck offers consistency with fixed odds for every hand, whereas in a traditional 8-deck game, the odds change as cards are drawn.

This is why 8-deck games are often cut halfway through: if many negative cards for the player are removed from the deck, the shoe can become more favorable for the player. In contrast, with an infinite deck, there's no need to cut and reshuffle because the deck is reshuffled after every hand.

I think OP should spend their time more usefully, as I keep seeing the same messages over and over. It also seems clear that you're not open to the opinions of others and only believe in your own numbers. Anyway, good luck with your witch hunt against Stake and their so-called puppets

They do,



This is your case - https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-suspects-casino-s-in-house-blackjack ? Have to dig CG to find the best match. Though the username is difference with the one used here, the writing style indicate it is yours.

They closed your case because you can't provide supporting evidence to back up your claim.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/02/27/qgQ7w.jpeg (https://talkimg.com/image/qgQ7w)

It's no one's fault but yours if you can't present a case with compelling basis for a rebuttal. Case on point, you come to the police and say your neighbor stole 30,000 USD from you. When they ask for evidence, you gave them an opinion of what you think should be happening instead of evidence-backed-fact.

But u comparing Blackjack with a coinflip now. A coinflip is 50/50 but Blackjack isn’t.

The numbers u use just don’t work and u can calculate the house edge with this.

No, I do not compare Black Jack with a coin flip!

The house edge is not a coin flip, only the remaining bets after the house edge is reduced are coin flips.

So if the advertised house edge is 0,5% and you made 180,900 bets, then you will lose 0,5% of the 180,900 bets = 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because you will win 50% of them you will lose 50% of them.

The house edge is not a coin flip, only the remaining bets after the house edge is reduced are coin flips.

It is not my fault if Casino Guru is too stupid to understand what a 0,5% house edge means and that the law of large numbers determines the maximal possible deviation from the expected outcome based on the number of attempts!

To compare Casino Guru with the police is misleading and a court will never appoint them as an expert witness! :D

ChatGPT

Quote: "The house edge applies to every bet, not just an initial portion."

So it says that the casino reduces the 0,5% house edge from every bet?  :D

No, that's not what it said.

Someone who does not know or who is not able to understand how the casino collects the house edge, is not qualified to post in this thread!

If the casino does not reduce the 0,5% house edge from every bet, how does the casino collect the house edge?

Someone who does not know or who is not able to understand how the casino collects the house edge, is not qualified to post in this thread!

It was literally explained in great detail in my post. Here it is again for you.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/03/01/qbrVq.png

Yes, the first paragraph of this analysis confirms that the casino collects the house edge via the number of bets a player loses!

Please answer the following question:

How does the casino collect the house edge?

A) Reduce or substract 0,5% from every bet

B) Reduce or substract 0,5% from the total amount wagered

C) Via the number of bets a player loses

The correct answer is D) None of the above.

@Zwei

How does the casino collect the house edge?

A) Reduce 0,5% from every bet

B) Reduce 0,5% from the total amount wagered

C) Via the number of bets a player loses

@BlackyJacky

how does the casino collect the house edge?

a) the edge is "collected" from every bet, doesn't matter if it's a win or a loss.

b) the edge is "collected" from bets via payout odds.

This is a hallucinated nonsense question, because the casino neither deducts the house edge from every bet nor via payout odds!

When you win a bet at Black Jack, the payout is an additional 100% of the bet amount and in case of a won Black Jack even an additional 150%.

How about answering my question?

but your chance of winning every bet are only 49.5%, while your chance of losing is 50.5%. (it's not a 50/50)

When my chance to win a bet is 49,5% and my chance to lose a bet is 50,5%, that means every 100 bets I am expected to lose 1 bet, because the difference between 49,5% and 50,5% = 1% = 1 bet.

with those odds, for every 100 bets you do, you are expected to lose 50.5 bets, not 1.

Hello nonsense hallucinator, how are you doing today?

When I made 100 bets and lost 50,5 bets and won 49,5 bets, then I lost in total 1 bet and not 50,5 bets!  :D

lmao, this shit is not real. i refuse to believe someone is this dumb.

whatever, i'm done talking to you.