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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?

Mate maybe your skills aren’t that good then lol.

After 5 years of not making any money, by now you already should have reevaluated yourself and your strategy to see where you are going wrong and what can you do to improve. If after 5 years, you continued with the same losing strategy then that is on you.
It’s skill based but do not say no to a bit of luck, it could change a lot of things.

If you have not proven yourself yet then it only means you can do better next time so try to do that and hope for some luck but don’t completely depend on it alone.

There's really no specific definition as it really depends on how you see it. For me, sports betting is all about skill. Otherwise, I would have stopped long ago because if I thought it was just luck, I'd lose my passion. Like you, I'm not a winner after many years of gambling, but that doesn't change my view. I still bet, believing that one day I'll crack the formula for consistent profit.

Skills will include many things such as the use of knowledge and also how to predict by carrying out an overall analysis of each team or player in sporting match itself, with his skills when they cannot determine what choice is worth betting on then the results will not be optimal.
Luck will indeed influence betting results too but not so dominantly and if you haven't made money from sports betting for several years maybe you haven't learned from experience and made improvements so you can get the right predictions and increase you chance of winning, sports betting looks very easy but it not everyone will be able to truly profit from sports betting.

In summary I'd say that sports bet requires skills to predict matches and some level of luck to win. You can't remove the luck factor from gambling, despite your well thought-out strategy you can still lose so it takes skill and luck to win in sports bet. I don't know if OP has been on a losing streak for years or just that his loses are greater than his wins. If it's the former, then he might consider changing strategy or taking a break, if it's the latter, it's a normal thing because most gamblers loses more than they win on the long run. We shouldn't put too much expectations on winnings in gambling, try to have fun while engaging in it and take wins when it comes.

What is happening to you is not so rare. Even if it's a skill game more than 90% of people who bet are long-term losers. And it has to do not only with knowing how to bet, but also with managing psychological aspects such as coping well with bad streaks and bankroll management. Obviously there is a luck factor that takes precedence over everything else in the short term. Normally successful bettors find a niche in a sport or league that is not one of the most popular and exploit it, perhaps that is your failure. If you bet on the Premier League, for example, it's going to be almost impossible to make a profit.

It's a combination of luck and analysis. Not skill. Analysis ain't a skill in my opinion because anyone can do it.

Now, we are not making 100 percent accurate predictions when we do that. The chances of losing are still high even though we are betting for the heavy favorite. We are doing the analysis to increase our chance of winning. Using records, history, winning rate, players, coaches, and more.
Let's take one for example in the NBA. If you will bet for the Cavaliers all the way with 39 wins and 9 losses you might still be in profit even though they will just give 1.40x - 1.50x odds. Now, the spreads are where it gets tricky because greed will come out and we want a higher profit. I think that is where it goes all wrong and that's why we lose most of our bets.

Hmm, I don't know, but maybe you don't have enough information towards these teams, these players, how often they get injured, how often they play, etc. etc. TBH, I think it isn't skills base or luck base, but more of knowledge based.

More knowledge about the sport, the team and the players will make more analysis much easier hence better chances of winning a bet. I don't know, but it's just how I see sports betting that's why I'm not betting on sports like Soccer, or Football, or even in MMA unless I don't know both fighters. I have more success in betting in basketball although in the end, I still lose which is kind of funny. :D

Well, you said that you've been betting for 5 years now, and based on statistics, gamblers who are gambling for that span of time has more losses than wins. I guess it's time to bet on teams that has an almost 100% chances of winning then. Maybe make some experiment on it. :)

You have the knowledged for the things you are betting, and betting by statistic or data.

It's based skilled, cause sportbets is one of the sectors gambling can be used to wins against house. That's why sportbets is having restricted, especially for someoenw who are sharp they will limited your bet size.

Same ways for BJ for a player can count the card, even we all know they still can loses some money.

how many times are we going to talk about this? i feel like people are just using different words like this thread:  Knowledge or Luck  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5523948.180) used the word knowledge vs luck i am sure there are other threads asking whether which one is more important strategy or luck or something similar

and in sports betting the answer will never be luck because unlike casino games, sports can be predicted by the factors at play which are the athletes with reliable performance data if a team or an athlete is historically bad then you can expect that as much but if they are historically good then you can also expect that much

if you decide to go against performance but by miracle you still win then that is because of luck but that would not come all the time

Actually sports betting is a game of luck, but that doesn't mean that a gambler wouldn't do his own research before placing a bet. Already we all know that gambling is a game of luck but at least as a good gambler you need to acquire some skill with proper research first before betting, and leave the rest for luck. why most gamblers normally find it difficult to win is because they always rely on luck, without noing that you would do your best first before relying on luck.

Sports betting need analyzation and it need a lot of time to familiarized the teams players also the overall stats they provided to know which of them have higher chance to win. To many ways to increase our chances to win and to know on where to research those information is somehow a skill since provably not everyone can exert extra efforts to know more about the team they are going to bet. Also there's lots of interesting post that tackled up that sports betting is skills so lots of people agree on this since it need proper thinking to possibly increase our chance to win.

But if a bettor not going to do those important things before betting I guess he will fall into luck based since he is just guessing on what possible result will show up.

The skill of the average person is to guess the intended outcome without being an insider. Thus, it is the "skill of catching luck." The result of any match (or other sporting event) is always intentional, as it is either determined by the fair play of the teams, or is the result of a match-fixing. In fact, this is also a gamble, but not against probability, but against a system that, for an external observer, functions half according to non-random "secret algorithms" and half is open to observation (for example, team statistics, matches).
For an insider, the internal structure of this system is completely transparent.

Sports betting can be said as combination of skills based game and luck based game because luck is also important in this game since even if you have great skills/knowledge about sporst, something unexpected may happen in the game which may give you unlucky bet. Your skills/knowlegde may boost your luck so you can get better winning chance compared to those who do sports betting just by "feeling". In this case, those who place sports bet just by feeling/guessing without any researches, they make sports betting as pure luck based game.

Every gambling is luck based so if people have no luck i think it's hard for them to won from gambling even so with sport betting that skill to analysis indeed required because to gets the better result people have to analysis to predict the outcomes of the particular matches before decide to making bets but it still luck is required because sometimes the result of sport bets is unpredictable so in my opinion all of gambling games is luck based including sport betting

It is more about luck. That is what some people will not know. They will think they can make some analyses to win and earn money from sports gambling sites but instead they will be losing. I have seen people that are addicted on sport betting just like how it is in casinos. And they are losing money as usual. Also think about the reason sport betting sites are always making money. Sports betting site grow richer as they have more customers. That means people are losing.

No one can stop on however we treat sports betting as long as we gamble responsibly. Personally, I prefer sports betting over games like slots, roulette, or dice, and I'm not really into card games. I can totally relate to this topic, and I always say that sports betting is a skill-based game since you need to analyze the game and pick the winner and ensure you win most of the time. And with good bankroll management and solid skills, success will eventually follow.

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Looks like everyone voted on "skilled base", its currently 4-0 in the competition..

@OP, in the poll you created, I think you should have added a third option which would be, (c: luck and skill based).

Remember that sports betting doesn't just depends on your skill, if that was the case, many sports bettors would be millionaires and billionaires. Let me digress, if sport betting was so reliant on skill alone, so many experienced gamblers would have become millionaire in the sense that, they would take thousands of dollars loan to bet on a particular game because they so much believed in their skill.

I don't know if you understand my point?

If betting was based on skill and perhaps you are so confident and certain about the outcome of your prediction, then you should take like $10k loan to place a bet that could give you a potential winning of $100k. Do you get?

In sport betting, you just need to have a  good prediction skill through studying the game and it's other activities but you do not exempt luck bro, else, you're gonna learn from experience.

If you are not making money, then obviously, your skills is not that sharp, just saying. Or maybe your betting style as well is the one to blame, or how much money you are betting and what kind of line, are you doing parlay and targets higher odd?

So I would say that skills has something to do with winning in sports betting, definitely there is this element of luck. But if you really follow the sports that you are betting, then you can make money because you are all familiar with this sports already.

I think that would justify our answer...

If we're profitable in sports betting, it means our success is skill-based; if we're constantly losing, then it's probably just luck at play. Only real gamblers truly understand this topic. When you're just reading books, you're working with theories, but in practice, things can be totally different. It's like having a strategy on paper, if you don't follow it effectively, it just won't work.

This Is the only gambling that you could try to predict and has a lot of skills involved.
There are many many facts that support this... Top tier level for gambling sites could arrive at 40%.
It means that for 100 dollars won (net won) they Will take around 40dollars as gambling taxi (Betfair).
Even with high taxi, there are some gamblers that are profitable and even able to afford It...
More...there are companies that could create odds for the market and get profit due management of the same.
As you see this type of gambling could reserve a lot of chance that other games doesnt offer.

Well I most say your own case is very different or should I say is because you're aiming high. however, the reason why most people gamble for so long without having a single wining record sometimes this happens as a result of over aiming, probably trying to make impossibility to become possible. I mean betting on the options you know that the chance of winning through that options is 0%.

 for the fact that we keep saying that gambling is a game of luck does not mean that you will be betting the options you know that the chance of winning through that option is 0%, of course there are options like this in sport betting. and if you keep betting on those options of course your chance of winning will be very low, and luck will be very far from you, Compared to when you bet using those regular options.

Skills in processing data and seeing how the condition and strategy of the team that will compete are.
I still believe that it is based on data and conditions that have been researched, even though it also depends on luck.

Based on Data Research, it may only be around 60-70% and Based on the luck factor, it is around 30%-40%.
But in the end a surprising outcome will also happen to a bet and cannot be fully predicted.

Skill in regards of the sport you are betting on? I don't think that would actually matter much. Since you are placing bets on the players, what should matter is your knowledge of those players whom you want to bet on. You should know their strength, how they have Been in the past and their recent scores. Personal I do check out some team stats before placing any bets(for those teams I know little of). For those I understand and I watch most of their games, I can tell what might be the out come of the game I bet on... But remember not all the time we may be right as it's still a game and luck plays a vital role...

No amount of luck will get you anywhere in sports betting without having a clue what you're doing!
At least in theory if you have all the required information about an event you should normally beat the odds at any time, of course, not saying that you're going to predict every single game outcome but you will lose less than you will win for certain.

While a 1-cent bet on slots can get you an x1000 because of luck, no amount of luck will make your bet on Ipswich winning the premier League come true.

This makes sense, I don't think that we can compare sports betting with skilled or luck base. Slots is the best example for it it's a very basic game, just press a button, and that's it, with no other skills or some critical thinking compared to sports betting where if you analyze it closely, sometimes you know what will happen.

I didn't want to vote, there were many similar topics and I think the conclusion is pretty clear: one doesn't work without the other. The ideal combination is to have good skills and a lot of luck, but luck is not constant... sometimes we are lucky, and sometimes not.
Sometimes even good analytical skills fail, everything points to one thing but on the field, something unexpected happens and takes the game in a completely different direction than what we expected.

That's why it's all a gamble, there's no 101% sure thing and no perfect strategy that works in the long run...

Sport betting is about luck and skill so when you only have skill without luck, you will difficult to win and vice versa. You have experienced that for five years and you don't have a good result from sport betting. You can still place your bet in sport but you should realize that besides having skill, you also need to have luck to win. But the important from that is you must limit your money to place your bet so when you lose, you will not lose big. That is the key that you must always remember so you will not regret too much when you lose.

You'd probably notice if you search for related topics, a large majority of answers would be skill-based. And I agree. I mean, sports in itself is skill based and you're judging the SKILLS of the players. Sure some luck is involved, but that's pretty much for every type of sport imo, so its no surprise that it's technically "skill-based"

Now it can be skill-based if you wanted, just blindfold yourself or prepare a dice that would decide which game you'd bet on, but you'd probably be incredibly dumb or just want a weird-ass challenge if you do that.

You have absolutely correctly described the logic of any gambler who believes that "over time" he will earn. But the fact is that in betting and gambling there are types of games that depend only on luck and "over time" the chance of winning in them does not increase. On the contrary, it decreases due to casino commissions. I will assume that theoretically in card games you can start winning over the years, but only if you have talent and the ability to draw the right conclusions. But I think only strong mathematicians are capable of this.

Sports betting does require skills because it can increase the chances of winning, it's just that even so this type of gambling is not free from luck that helps us in getting victory, I believe this sports betting requires skills but also involves luck so not entirely the skills we have can produce victory with certainty besides it is also impossible for us to get consistent victory in gambling.
Now there must be people who are experts and good at their skills but in my opinion that does not mean they can make a profit consistently still the chances of losing are greater than the chances of winning.

As we put it this way, there's still luck factor in play, whether we are very familiar or expert with the sports we are betting with. Though the increase of your knowledge towards this sports will really give you better chance of winning. But we can't totally eradicate the luck factor here as we can't control the game when the ball starts rolling.


That's the truth in gambling. Whether you are in sportsbetting - luck still plays on this type of betting. How can you guarantee that the team will win even if you already consider the angles that you have known so far? So yes, even if you feel you are expert or die-hard fan of the team, you can't assure about your winning chance here. Luck surely will play an important role in the final outcome of the game.

Sports betting is skill-based and luck base.Once there is an "out-of-control" factor even though you have to do your own analysis based on historical evidence, still the out of control factor comes in play. These factors are the referees, the fans disposition, the pitch, the VR etc. These factors and some others, can cause things to change and that is the luck factor.

I think it depends on how you bet in sports betting. If you are betting on sports without analyzing it then that is pure luck based but mostly bettors usually analyze the game first before they bet unless they favorite the team or player.

I'm not sure why you didn't make any profit until now but like other said maybe your skills on analyzing the game is not enough.

Why not try parlay? Have you tried it? you should be able to make profit in parlay than just normal bets.

Gambling for me always has a luck factor. But for sports betting, I believe that skill is also a strong factor in how we can get good results.
The reality is not as easy as we hope. Even when we master a certain field of sports betting, we will still experience failure in betting. All that is not because we do not have enough skills, but in gambling, there are other factors that play a role, that as luck.
The skills we have and use to make bets will be a tool for us to minimize the risk of defeat. At least we see the opportunity to win and the confidence to make bets, not betting randomly.

Sports betting is a combination of both skills and luck but Depending on one factor can unknowingly piss you.Experienced gamers rely on developing strategies that'll yield positive outcomes over every bet they partake in.
Develop a solid consciousness of staying aware of the situation wether or not to be overwhelmed by luck or your skill so as to secure your chances for winning.

I can say both skill based and luck. Sports betting requires lots of skill, people who under rates the perception often take more loses, sometimes it goes beyond just selecting games that looks the favorite, a skilled gambler knows when best to bet against the easy options.

I voted for skilled based, sport betting requires careful analysis, sometimes it takes minutes to deliberate on which game to bet on after weighing the risk involved. Any sport bettor should understand pretty much about that particular fixture before staking, that is the reason we only bet on fixtures we know about, mostly league and clubs, can't possibly know much about every club and players so when betting some fixtures are not to be included.

I thought the same until I see that most referees are given full power and they can do anything they desire, yes they do not give the slightest f*ck about so called VAR technology put in place to check very difficult cases. Of course I am talking about sport betting in soccer where referees have made thousand of wrong decisions and 0 punishment from the soccer entity both local to the league where this has happened and both above in UEFA/FIFA entities. I would say that since we cannot predict the referee behavior I would say it stays on luck most of the time, especially when referee change the game outcome through his decisions, you simply cannot predict that and no matter how skillful you are the end result still relies heavily on luck.

It's obvious that in this context sports betting requires skills and once your skills ain't good enough then you're open to chances of lucks, sometimes we may be seeing sports betting as a luck based game especially when we can't figure out by ourself some tactical issues but nevertheless your skills are required here cause you have to make predictions and calculations and analysis and as well strategies so definitely this are all skilled criteria so it's skilled base with a touch of lucks.

The sole luck-based gambling activities are the ones you will have to bet without relying on any strategy/skill but on your instincts based on pure gambling. This is what we do mostly in casino betting, it is 100% luck-dependent. But this is different in sports betting, you can win more in sports betting if you take your time to gather more information and use it to choose your options. Although luck is also needed in sports betting, it is not as reliant on casino betting.

Sports betting is indeed skill-based gambling not luck-based, footing the experience I had with some people I know who use sports betting as their main income (which is doing great). However, there's still the need for luck in some areas because some sports games can't be predicted due to the level of how surprises happen at some point in the game of sports.


Working on your skills is not enough. You also need to understand the game and the team with the inclusion of their opponent's historical record. Not excluding the team's current performance with the ability to score goals.

It's both I would say, you need to have some good skills for predicting the outcomes with a better precision and efficiency than the bookmakers, that is to say when you bet on outcomes with 6.00 decimal odds, you're able to win more often than once in 6 for example, and also good skills to be able to manage efficiently your bankroll and to bet the best stakes. But you also need a bit of luckto be able to beat it more widely and to make more profits.

It requires both skill and luck for one to be successful when it comes to sport betting.

Even if you have a good analysis skill you still won’t be any good when luck is not in your side; most of the times teams we think we will without any doubt turns out to give us a different result entirely from what we initially thought; that kind of scenario is a clear evident that sport betting also depends heavily on luck and not just the skill of the gambler.

Skill and luck must go hand in hand if we want our victory to be achieved. Relying on skill alone will not make us win, because luck is something that cannot be separated from gambling. Likewise, we cannot rely only on luck, because analytical skills will also be needed. For example, when a team at the top of the standings faces a team in the relegation zone, our analysis results will definitely point to the team at the top of the standings, but that is also not a guarantee of winning. On the other hand, we cannot rely only on luck by betting on a team in the relegation zone, even though we sometimes see them win, but logically it does not make sense.

In this situation, the fact that your friend is well versed in tennis and can make good money on it proves, and this proves that you can make money on it with the right approach. I have a friend who makes good money on boxing because he himself was a former athlete and this helps him in analyzing the favorite of the fight. He does not make millions, but it is enough for him to have a good vacation once a year.

Both, but unlike other gambling games it's more favored towards skill.
Well the skill here translate to the amount of information and understanding of the clubs playing.
But to stand out, your skill and knowledge should be Deep and cover broad aspects of the sport.
Take football for example, History has shown that Man Utd are usually strong against Chelsea even if Chelsea are higher in the table.

It's a combination of both, skill do increase your chance to win, but in the end luck could play.

If you correctly predict the results of both equal teams/players, it's skill.

If huge underdog beat the huge favorite, it's luck.

It's a hard pill to swallow but that's the reality.

Just because someone have learn it for 10 years, it doesn't mean they're better than genius kid who only learn for a year. There's always limit in someone, if you can't make money in gambling, think for other option to gamble for fun.

It is a combination of both, I would say sport-betting is about 70% luck and 30% skill and intuition. The appealing part of betting of sports is trying to be able to get as much edge with our knowledge and get closer to that 30% of advantage we could get against other players who betted opposite.
Those who are less skilled and do less research are not going to be able to get that 30% of advantage, but rather a 5% or 20%, depending on their experience and time they have followed their favorite sport.
Besides of all of it, it is luck. There are simply too many factors and entropy we cannot foresee when two teams or two people face each other in different disciplines.
If sport betting was mostly about skill and now luck odds would appear to be completely different, favouring one of the teams always over the opposite and the market would be dominated and a selected group of bettors who would rarely fail on their predictions, that is now the case of the betting market as it stands today.

It is worthy knowing that sport betting is not gambling but betting.

Why are the sport betting sites growing if sport bet is more about skills? People can easily go to the school to study it and start winning. Do not let us deceives ourselves. We should use small amount of money to bet.

There is nothing impressive about Manchester United when playing with Chelsea. This is their last head-to-head:

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The concept of Upset in gambling defeats the whole idea of sportbetting being a game of skill alone - it’s just as you said, there are times when upsets happen and some times which we think will never win turns out to be the winner of that game and such situations analysts usually points to the teams that have the upper hand.

I have experienced something like that a couple of times, so that’s why when I came across this topic I instantly knew that both skill and luck work hand in hand in sport betting.

Gambling generally is all about luck, but there are some gambling games that need some level of skill and knowledge to enhance the gambler's winning. In sports betting, bettors need a fair knowledge about that particular sport. Knowledge about that sport history and players would be very helpful in making betting decisions. So, if anyone will argue that skill is what is required, they should not ignore the luck factor in gambling.

Another thing to consider in sports betting is the bettor's state of mind and level of confidence while placing bets. A confused bettor might make the wrong choice even when he has lots of information before him to make the right decision.  A biased person might choose to bet in favour of his favourite team just because of the love he has for the team, even when he knows that the other team stands a better chance.

Well, deciding on the right thing to do without any form of emotional attachment is skill on its own that every sport bettor should possess.

I am not a frequent sports bettor but here's my 2 cents. it's a mix of both, I mean while researching, analyzing, and understanding the game on a deeper level can be attributed to skill-based, it can only get you so far because a match between two teams can be unpredictable and that unpredictability cannot be researched or analysed.

Sports betting, like almost every other casino product, is a combination of skills and luck. You have to choose one or two sports and focus on them, for example, I chose soccer and I was actively placing bets on soccer matches and let me tell you from my experience that skills will boost your chance of winning and I'd say it's possible to earn money with sportsbooks but you also have to consider that skills alone can't always help because I've made bets on matches where my favourite team had a very high chance of win but top player got injured in the match or got red card in the first 10 minutes of the game and that radically changed the outcome of the match.

Sports betting is largely dependent on your skills, specifically the skills related to sports knowledge. It's common sense because the teams that win most of the matches are generally the same almost every year, with some exceptions. You also need to be a bit shrewd and know which matches are preferable not to risk, and be smart enough not to include fanaticism in sports betting. After that, a smaller percentage is luck, as statistics can fail and we cannot predict the future.

I think it is skilled based though for everything gambling, there is always luck involved regardless of it being skilled based or not. You can not only win by just knowing the right team to support but you also need luck to be with you that your selected clubs wins the game. There are times when the teams that you picked to win will be having a bad day and when you were not lucky to choose the other team to win because you depended on only your skilled, you are going to be at a loss. Gambling needs skills for games that are skilled based and luck for games that are not skilled based. Football requires you to be skillful or technical for you to play and get to the top of your profession therefore for gambling, you have to be skilled too to increase your chances of winning.

A little experience and a lot of luck are the keys to sports betting. Experience does not mean having a comprehensive knowledge of the game, but it is enough to know the rules of the game and rely on the history of statistics to choose the right option. Some may risk placing random bets and get lucky to win, but this is the exception, not the rule, and often luck cannot always be on their side.

Some other games also require some skill in knowing the rules of the game such as poker and blackjack.

Actually gambling is luck based and not skilled, and even though you spend 5 -6 year trying to make money by look for the perfect strategy to win regularly, it may not even be possible. Because there hasn't been a perfect strategy to win gambling or a perfect skill rather luck base. No matter how skilled we think we are we will still end up not wining as we ought to. But we can be lucky sometimes to win and also lose.  In my own point of view, I will say it's %90 luck base.

It is not always skill based if you are following one of those well known surebetting strategies, ev betting and arbitrage betting. If you follow these strategies then it is not about your knowledge about sports anymore. It becomes a matter of math.

If you aren’t making your bets based on math or research, then you are trusting your luck and it is no different than throwing a dice.

The point is, you can bet on sports and your bet might be based on math, research or luck. The outcome depends on the route you are taking.

And I would like to assume that this could have some calculation formulas, but unfortunately in mathematics, if unknown new variables are constantly introduced, then no formula can give a stable result.
Of course, I mean all sorts of events that are impossible to foresee. This is a bad mood of the players or their internal conflicts or some events that may happen before the match.
And that's it. It's impossible to take into account in most cases. That's why many betting fans lose money.

You need both skill and luck but c'mon stop giving your money to the bookies, five years of loses is too much. You may be skilled but if you're not doing the right thing you will keep suffering loses. So do an evaluation and come up with a strategy. If you play parley and one or two games keep denying you win, try singles. And if a particular market is not favouring you, try another, there are many markets like goal, card, corner etc. you can always bet on.

Sport betting is one thing that has nothing to do with skills because the fact of the matter is that winning on gambling is a function of luck and depends solely on how fortunate or lucky a person is because the probability of you winning a bet is very slim and can't be attributed to skill as there is proven skill that has consistently be used in wining on gambling. Sport betting is a game of luck because the fact is that in any of the sporting events that you bet on ranging from slots games, virtual sports betting  to live football events all depends on luck as there is high level of uncertainty when it comes to gambling so there's no proven skill to use in winning in any of these gambling events so if someone wins in a gambling event don't attribute it to skill but luck

Sports betting is about skills, but the bookmaker will still always be winning. This is because even if you are a very skilled person in analyzing all the data of a game, you still do not have a crystal ball to accurately predict the future, what you are doing is looking at the data of the past and trying to predict the future. But this is not a guaranteed prediction. That is why it does not matter if the person is betting on sports or casino games, people always recommend that they play just for fun.

Five years of constant losses and no meaningful wins would be too much to me to bear, to be honest.
If someone believes sport betting is about skill and they have yet to find or get some skill after five years, then I would just give up and move onto something different, like Blackjack or even Poker, one can get better at poker as times goes on.
.Also, explicitly talking on his losses, most of his money has not gotten to the hand of the bookie, but rather to the hands of other bettors, who happen to have a better understanding of sports then him. Hopefully he will find a branch of gambling which is better suited for him in the future.

I would always say sports betting is often based from your skill, but that doesn’t mean that you’ll automatically keep winning your bets. Remember, the edge will always be on the house, no matter what type of game it is. It’s just that if you have good skill and analysis, you will have chances to win at some point, but never often because the gambling casino won’t never allow that to happen. Gambling is business, it is built for them to profit, not us.

Randomly, all betting wining is a luck or opportunity, from my perspective there's no gambling wining that the % of the wining comes from the experience you have acquired in the gambling, because so many other persons has the experience in the gambling but with their experience they don't win often, so with this illustration I portray we have to know that gambling wining comes from luck not by experience, but experience can give you the privilege to make a slight wining but is not something that's assured.

I'm taking experience is key as it helps you improve your skills. If you start with that mindset, you’ll really work for it. For those gamblers who keep losing, experience teaches you discipline to minimize your losses. But it's different if we should view sports betting as a skill-based game. As gamblers, we need to believe that we have the skills to win. Sure, they say we lose in the long run, but our goal is to beat that trend and come out on top consistently by using our skills.

Of course, if you're skilled enough to study the teams, make a good analysis of every team's performance and statistics then it's gonna be a win situation for you. If you're skilled enough to play with the odds, then it's gonna be an easy win even it's just a 1.5x. A good gambler will take everything as long as they're minimizing the risks and loss, they will play with the information they have. It's like being a strategist in a game, you need enough skill to analyze the battle in order to win, that's how sports betting works.

Knowledge is a must in sports betting. Someone who once made a bet and won, without understanding the sport that was supposed to bring him luck, cannot win constantly. Once is not an indicator. But I know people who follow the championship in which the teams play, monitor the condition of the players, and all the seemingly little things that can bring them luck in betting on a certain game. I agree that luck is necessary, but with knowledge, they work better, and the one who makes a bet has a better chance of winning.

Sports betting has absolutely nothing to do with your skill in football, but every thing to do with your knowledge rather, and luck.
So, in conclusion, sports betting is a knowledge and luck based game, that is, your knowledge in your choosen sports will determine how often you win or lose bets, with little assistance of luck on your side.

When we are talking about the players, like football player for example, they are the ones that need skill to win matches, they need to develop good skills to enable them beat their opponents in the field of play.
But as sports bettors ourself who are simply betting on who to win, or lose, what we need is good knowledge in football games, know the strength and weaknesses of all the players or clubs, being able to tell which team or club has a better chances of winning a match against another team or club, this is the type of knowledge we need to be successful in sports betting, couple with luck, skill in sports betting is not needed.

It’s just the basics, something everyone should know to enjoy sports betting. But knowing the basics isn’t enough to succeed. In reality, we can only determine if we’re winning or losing by keeping track of our gambling activity and treating it seriously. And by serious, I mean setting up a proper bankroll and taking a long-term approach. That’s the only way to figure out if sports betting is truly a skill-based endeavor for us or if we’re just treating it like any other luck-based game.

To a certain extent, the odds in sports betting make everything about luck rather than skills. To be able to make a profit in sports betting, you have to take risks. You can't just choose the favorite all the time. Aside from the possibility that an upset could happen, what you get by betting on the favorite if you win is a small amount. Oftentimes, it's not worth it. So, the tendency is to go for lower chances but higher winnings. In doing so, it's luck that you need.

It is with both for me. Sometimes I get lucky with my bets without having properly analyzing the game or it's the natural thought that I have since I know what I am betting to. But I am not calling off the possibility of me being just lucky. So, that's it for me and it doesn't matter even if I'm lucky or skilled, what matters to me is that I win the bet that I have.

Winning in sports betting depends on a mixture of strategy, proper analysis, risk management and luck. Each factor is equally important when it comes to sports betting. There is no mention of favorite team here, because every team's performance is not always the same, many times strong teams lose even to weak teams. Sports betting is full of such unexpected events. Nothing will give you a guaranteed profit, so before placing every bet, think that this bet will lose you, and that you have not face any problems if you lose this money. Gambling through proper management by planning everything.

The real definition of winning here is being a long-term winner. This is a direct-to-the-point statement, our strategies may vary, but we all aim for the same result to truly call ourselves successful in sports betting. No matter how much we study, analyze, or try to master different aspects, if our record doesn’t show profit, then we’ve failed.

I have a different view in sports gambling, I have done sports betting for years "skills" not the best solution in sports gambling even though you have expertise (hard skills) and (soft skills) where you are in the betting position instead of players on the field and you cannot accurately predict which team/club wins the bet.

You can have abilities and skills and creativity or use your mind in sports betting or predict the final value of sports betting, but what you have is no guarantee to determine the final results running with your wishes What I say facts, if skills become a random sports betting, I think we will see hundreds or thousands of sports gamblers will win every day.

So my view for sports betting remains based on "luck" you bet and win if you are lucky, whether it's myth or facts, my judgment facts.

In betting, the definition of winning which some people do not realize is ability to use the amount of money that you can able to afford to lose to bet. If anyone wants to make money, the person should get himself a good job or work to earn from. Gambling and betting should not be of any means to earn money. Most gamblers are losing in long term. I think almost 87% of gamblers are losing.

I still wonder why people think of gambling as a means to make money. Even though we have some gamblers that do make it from gambling, most of them have other things that they have invested in and are bringing back interest for them. Gambling should be what it is, and that's a means of having fun. The profit comes along the way. Being skilled still doesn't guarantee your winnings when it comes to gambling as you are playing against algorithms or real events that all depends on luck.

From my experience with sports betting I'd say it's based more skill than on luck, although you might need luck sometimes because after doing your research and analysis the players can still do whatever they like. But when it comes to sports betting only your skills can you achieve more wins than losses. This is what makes it different from casinos, you need to gather a little bit of knowledge about the sports you'd like to bet on. Some find this quite exhausting but it's not always about winning, no knowledge is wasted, your constant research is definitely going to come in handy.

If you think more carefully, I feel that luck is still there even though we have the ability to do an analysis or do the assessment accordingly, and things that happen in the field can make a sign or unlucky and that is the most confused actually whether we are indeed this bet on sports based on luck or ability because if based on our abilities we can certainly find out clearer conclusions when making a bet but the course of the match can change the situation even though the calculations we do according to what we can think of as the right analysis of various data available.

Sports betting also requires luck, there are times where your skills might fail you although I'm not disputing the fact that it's a skill based game my point is that some percentage of luck is also needed. Sports betting just like everyday other sports has some ups and downs, there are times that even the best teams can flop and the underdog might have the upper hand. It doesn't matter how skilled you are, losses are always inveitable this is why you must always be cautious of your stakes, risk management is the most important thing to learn as a gambler.

I completely agree with your opinion. Experience may be especially responsible for you in winning sports betting, but ultimately luck is responsible for winning. No experienced gambler can say that he will definitely win. He say the remaining sentence every time, maybe. I respect the skill with which a gambler considers the statistics of any team and formulates a plan of action for future betting. Most of the best teams lose to teams at the bottom of the points table at various times, which is why you will hear most fans say that maybe luck was not on their side.

So if you want to be a good gambler, you should rely on luck most of the time and the betting process should be such that you can lose this bet. You should think carefully before trying to get peace of mind.

In 2025 for me is just pure luck. No skill will actually make me win it seems no matter how hard I try. Tried some bets in football LaLiga and Serie A and failed , then I've tried yesterday some bets in Esports Dota 2 and failed and today I've tried some bets in CS2 and it seems I'm about to fail. Why ? well , it seems that no matter what I pick , I end up losing because if I took the favorite the underdog won and vice-versa.

This being said , at least I've tried to bet after a long time break and it seems betting in 2025 is chaos , random and pure luck and I prefer to watch sports just for passion and fun instead of betting.

I would be here in skill-based compared to the other two. It can be based on my mood; if I don't want to think, it would be luck-based. It's going to be hard, and knowing that you could go skill or luck would be your decision, and that's how you would handle the results. You should know that you should be considering what you are taking in for yourself and make sure that you are managing your risk.

Proving yourself would just justify your gambling, but it's better that you approach gambling in a methodical way, like managing your risk.

i can say that sports betting is a type of gambling that is based on skill. but that doesn't mean that there is no luck involved in this, because in some matches the big team was defeated by the underdog team-- that breaks all the analysis made by the bettors on the team. but even so, that only happens in a few matches, so most sports betting can still be said to be primarily based on skill.

Personally, I am more into sports betting. Because this is the field that I understand the most, that I can analyze the most, and I am quite familiar with certain sports and also the clubs and players. So, even though it is not easy, this is still the most reasonable for me.

Honestly, this is true. Even though it is a sport betting, the luck factor is still one of the factors. Like when we decide to bet on a certain club with a certain score, and it turns out that most of the predictions are outside the guesswork and in fact we are the ones who are very appropriate, then this will further boost our spirit to make that bet. It's just that, when a match must be colored with score rules, politics, bribery and others, this will actually harm sports gamblers.

we can't avoid losing in gambling. Even in sports betting that allows us to make predictions from our own analysis. the skills required by gamblers to get good betting choices, and luck is another factor that gives gamblers other situations that may be unexpected.
although there are also gamblers who make sports bets from estimates or feelings alone, but their level of luck will not be good enough. skills are still needed in sports betting.

Frankly, from my own experience in sports betting, it is true that skill helps but luck plays a bigger role in this activity. You can analyze stats, trends, and odds, but unpredictable factors like injuries, bad referee calls, or off days all these can ruin even the best bets. Simply, if betting was purely skill based, then professionals would win consistently, but in reality they even face losing streaks. Unlike poker or chess, where skill dominates as more important, in sports betting depends on factors beyond your control. Your five year experience proves that while skill improves your chances, luck is the main factor that decides your income. If skill alone guaranteed success, you woudl already be profitable.

sportsbet is not dependent on luck. It depends on skill.  Because sports matches can be analyzed and the performance of players can be analyzed to understand which team is more likely to win, so considering these can be called sports bet skill based gambling.  But when you bet somewhere where the total outcome will come from a machine like slots games, dice etc then it will be totally dependent on your luck although some tricks can be used to increase the amount but not possible prediction like sports bet.

We can't truly take away luck from gambling no matter the level of our expertise, this is very important to take note of and sports betting has a lot of determinant factors that make up for the final results and even external and internal factors aside from the bettors own analysis and state of things, most of the sports bettors and speculators failed to acknowledge the luck factors fact that by going too much away from depending on luck and rather on their predictions which in most cases don't end well for them at most time, so for sure to maintain a sanity of mind we need to build a knowledge-based betting approach and relying on luck.

Gambling = always close to luck. It's just that each game has a different percentage of luck. Sports betting relies more on skill than luck. While casino games rely more on luck.

For sports betting for me, 90% skill 10% luck. Why?

Because when we analyze data before betting, that's our skill to get results that bring us closer to victory.

When we bet with deeper analysis and have gotten the right results but it turns out that the surprise comes the underdog team beats the favorite team, that's about luck.

There is no doubt you can increase your skills in sports betting but that doesn’t still guarantee anything at all, you will still need luck to be successful in it. You can’t talk about gambling and not involve luck in it, you just can’t do without luck when gambling and no matter how good you are in analyzing sport games you still need luck to be in your favor.

Sports games are played by others and the conditions of certain players and the mentality of the team changes with time so it’s difficult to predict how well they will play and what mentality they will have in the game so your knowledge and skills can only increase your chances of winning but doesn’t guarantee your success that’s why luck is very important in this.

Its definitely a mixture of Analysis/skill and luck. Anyone can do their analysis and
anyone can back a favourite at 1.03, it doesnt take analysis or skill for that.

Its only skillful if someone can pick the underdog and win at least 51% of them
better if its like 75% though.

But we are betting on the skill of sports players, they are human, can fall to any
number of failings, mental stress, indecision and injury, if its a team sport those
failings can be compensated if its a solo sport its a lot more serious, so luck
plays a big part too.

For me it mostly skills. But the same time you must have strategy, money and risk management and keep calm. It also a serious research before betting. If the odds are ok - you bet. Only standard bet without emotions.
If you do all these things you can get profit. I can suppose that you have at least one problem in your strategy but you have to find it yourself.

It's a combination of both skill and luck. You can improve your chances of winning/making a profit through skills and experience but at the end of the day you still need some luck to win certain bets. I've had lots of instances where I only needed 1 goal/corner/yellow card to win my bet with just a couple minutes of the game remaining. Sometimes it hits,other times it loses, but I personally consider it luck since it's not in my control anymore and anything can happen.

In my opinion, knowledge and skills are very important in sports betting, although luck also plays a role because all gambling still relies on luck, but skills can help you to make choices after you analyze both teams, previous matches, team statistics and players who will play, injured players and also current performance, and other relevant factors that are very important. And although sometimes not entirely true, at least all of that can help me to make choices rather than just relying on hunches without doing anything and risking more losses than those who have no impression in betting. Because in my opinion sports betting is a bet that must be made by intelligent people who use their minds like working before betting to determine the best choice in order to have a greater chance of winning and if it fails it is already part of the bet, because there will be no consistent victory in gambling but skills and knowledge can help to determine choices and in the long run unknowingly more wins than losses if done seriously, carefully and disciplined. And this is in my opinion, different from what other people think because there will be many differences such as how accurate it is to find the best information, maintain emotions and also financial management, if there is doubt it is better not to bet because confidence in choosing will be determined after doing what I mentioned above.

Skill and luck take their respective roles in this case because after all, betting for gambling cannot only rely on skill alone or luck alone because after all, if in the end both are not owned in a bet, the results obtained in the end will not be optimal.

It should be realized that betting sometimes has differences with other gambling cases such as playing slots or doing it in conventional gambling such as dice or roulette so that in the end in a bet sometimes skill, experience and how we read an mpmenyum match can be a condition that can sometimes be the main focus and luck usually takes the final role to occur because luck sometimes cannot be forced but it is possible that it can still be expected when the results we do in optimizing luck are really done then luck can come.

Luck with experience for winning or losing it may be a combination of both for some time / most of the time I am a combination. At the end of the day luck has to be given more priority. Betting games sometimes the best team loses it affects your win or loss with the luck of that team. I want to believe that someone from behind can push to ensure the defeat of the best team by showing bad play or after being aware of the secret strategy of that team it affects the ordinary gamblers to lose at the gambling board. Most skill or most luck is debated by many and I do not want to compare my gambling experience with this process because I know that gambling is psychological and losing is normal and the chances of winning are very low so the main thing is to manage the bets considering having fun. To keep the chances of winning high, spread your bets on different boards and at least one can be guaranteed to win and you can also profit.

If we talk about lotteries and slots, of course luck is the main factor, as well as games like poker and blackjack then skill is one of the factors for us to win, but if we talk about sports betting, I think our skills and expertise in analyzing the game are actually one of the factors for us to be able to make more accurate bets with an 80% guarantee of winning, And that's where the luck factor of 20% also plays an important role in every bet we make, so I think sports betting does involve a combination of skill and also luck, skill can help us to increase the chances of winning, as well as luck which is an important factor in every bet we make.

Gambling has never been an easy activity, and before I started playing I saw a lot of opinions from different players that here you will lose more than you win, almost always. Therefore, I never tried to play for big money, this helped me to avoid big losses. It seems to me that in order to improve your gambling skills you need to devote much more time to this than most players do, who make several bets a week to watch several matches.

This is based on my experience. It could be more about analysis than luck. But yes, it doesn't mean our chances of winning are high. We can be confident of this because players can sometimes flop and lose. That is why no matter how long we spend analyzing the data and team performance, winning remains uncertain, especially if both teams are performing well.

I believe that sports betting is better than slots and card games, which are purely luck-based games. But yes, we can never find any assurance in gambling, even spending years doing this.

Sports betting requires skill-based may be true. Because in sports betting we can involve statistical data analysis and understanding of the team or player. We can analyze the conditions and skills of the players. So that analysis, sports knowledge and research can increase the chances of winning in sports betting. But requiring luck-based is still relied on in sports betting and is also very necessary and even the most decisive victory. Because in sports betting a strong team or one with a higher percentage of superiority does not necessarily win. Moreover, sometimes in some sports there is also a score setting so that skill-based no longer affects. So in my opinion sports betting requires 50% skill-based and 50% luck-based.

I will say gambling is more of luck be it skilled base game or pure luck based game. This is why you see that there's no professional in gambling because without luck, you cannot win your bet with all your research and analysis. Predicting the future is the hardest thing to do, because you cannot use past result as a guarantee to judge the future

I agree and disagree with you, although having really good analytic abilities can be called an analytic skill, because not everyone can analyze a game or a team trend properly. Some people can follow up trends, dig up facts that someone else can overlook. They have attention to details when they are doing analysis, being able to listen to the public and make better decisions, it can be a skill, but analytic skill, that's how I see it.

Then, luck is a big factor as long as it is gambling or this is a future event where certain factors that are beyond human control, like accidents in the field, can affect the outcome of the game. You can't just rely on your analytic skill because the team you analyzed are good players, or they won the last, league, or they've been on top five in the chart for this league, so they are going to win. It doesn't work all the time.nSo, yes, it's both for me. The combination of analytic skill and luck gives the win. ic and make your analysis is a skill, right?"

I think you should be able to discover your problems by now in gambling especially in sport betting, reason i said this is that i was also facing this same challenges till i have to renew my mindset and change my scope towards gambling. Not that i regularly win, but i have never spent 5 years as you said without winning at least twice in 2-3 weeks. If you change your orientation you would start winning from sport betting, slow and steady (consistently) is better than having to target a big win of millions while along the line it would cut off. So, go for single games or 3 games is better with amount you know could give you good winning and this should be an amount you can afford to lose when you bet on it.

I agree with you, gambling is definitely completely dependent on luck, in fact, no matter how much research you do before betting, the results will be anything, because the performance of each team is not always the same, and luck will not always be with you. No matter how good a strategy you create, if luck is not with you, you will never win. So if you gamble beyond your means due to overconfidence, and if your luck is not on your side at that time, you will lose it, and you will have to face big problems.

Whether betting or casino games then it will be that highly dependent when it comes to luck factor but the main difference in sports is that you can be able to apply some analysis or in some card games on which it will really be that relevant on making use of this one so that you do have that better chance or having that good odds on winning up the bet on which this will really be that totally different if we do speak about on casino games on which everything will really be that basing up on the code and its been that programmed for the house to win and this is why its really that you should really be able to distinguish when it comes to their main differences.

The key on here is that you do make use of the amount on which you can afford to lose whether you do get involved with casino games or sports betting. So you will be that basing up according into your own preference because not all will really be that the same interest into the games that they are really that getting involved with.  Sports betting is highly that needing up that analysis but still luck factor will really be that playing up a major role for you to be able to win up  the bet because no matter how good your analysis is  but if luck isnt there then it will be useless.

Whether it is based on skill or luck, the fact remains that luck is always needed as long as it's gambling. Sports betting is generally a skilled based game, lota of people that bet on their favorite sports do a lot of research and analysis but at the end of the day anything can happen. I remember the game between Madrid and Espanol, a lot of people expected Madrid to win based on their form and odd but I decided to go with Espanol to win, I knew the risks involved so I staked low, it turned out that real Madrid ended up losing the match. It's a skilled based but you need luck too.

Winning a bet is not easy mostly when you predict a lot of them. Winning your bets is entirely based on luck and there's no two ways about it. Your prediction also plays a good role in gamble but facts that luck is more important makes it hard for gambles to win. Although gambler must not bet to make a living from Gamble otherwise winning will be hard. The reason why it looks like luck play a significant role in gamble is because most of the time the opposite of what a gambler predict is what comes out at the end of the game.

I agree with you, and there are very practical reasons for this. Recently, I talked about some of my sports bets where I did a lot of research. My research was certainly sound, but when I saw the results, I couldn't accept it. What I realized was that no matter how much research I did in sports betting, I had to rely on luck. That's why after seeing the results of a few bets, I realized that there is no reliability in betting, whether it is luck-based or skill-based. If a gambler is prepared to lose, then whatever the result is, it won't affect him much.

Still, this is an interesting question and sometimes I catch myself thinking that it depends very much on skill, but later, when watching a match, I notice so many micro-moments in which everything should have been the other way around. But what happened happened. Still, professionals who have been betting for 15 years and love it very much, live it, see every moment, can earn money, but not everyone has the willpower to keep the risk in hand, manage their deposit, and not go crazy from a series of losses. Therefore, all this ultimately leaves very few players who actually earn money.

Well I think similar thread has been made here before Maybe you haven't come across it but anyways it is a simple question and you have already mention the answer. Betting generally is not skillful stuff and no matter how skillful someone is they can not use it to make profit in gamble and if skill do actually work in gambling, most persons wouldn't have been making loss because they would have gone to study how to acquire the skill and I believe all the betting company would have gone bankrupt so, what I am saying is that gambling is a game of luck and this luck doesn't even happen or occur often just once in a while though some time you will experience it for some period of time before it will stop.

Before answering any question, I will make another question to you that have you watched the match between Real Madrid vs Espanyol? If you do.
Then I have another question for you that have you really expected the result of that match the Real Madrid team will lose against Espanyol team which is a weakest on the Laliga Leauge?

I hope you already understand what I meant by my questions. We can say or assume that sports betting is skill based but ultimately we depend on luck. And if it weren't dependent on luck, we wouldn't call it sportsbetting, we would call it sports-trading.
So even then we can say skill will help in case of sportsbetting but ultimately it is luck based.  :P

Luck based mostly and not skilled based but there might be some situations when some skills helps you in your predictions. You can't learn how to gamble on sports games and always be guaranteed of winning the bets hence you'll still need luck to win so it can't be a skilled game when you'll still depend on luck to win. Gambling is more of luck than skilled but what's crazy is some people think that they can learn and practice to gamble and still aways be victorious hence making gambling a career and source of their income.

It's almost an impossible thing to think about and while you're doing this, you could have used that time more better to learn something different that when you have acquired the skills, you don't still have to depend on being lucky to win. Your skills can't help you always when you gamble on spot games hence it isn't sometimes that can be depended on.

Luck is what is basic in gambling as a whole, but in sports betting i feel that skill is important because you can't predict the outcome of a match correctly in most cases, if you have no knowledge about the teams that are playing the matches, and you won't know the better option to choose which will lead you to making blind predictions that you are not sure of.


I don't know what you meant by saying that gamblers should not make a living from gambling because if someone is playing gambling and lucky to be making a living from it will you advise them to stop gambling. You can only say that people should not be too dependent on gambling as a source of income instead of saying that they must not make a living from it. If gambling is favorable to you then why not continue and apply wisdom while gambling. Gambling goes against the prediction of gamblers most of the time but we should also accept that sometimes skills also plays some roles in winnings..

Yes, Almost all individuals believe that gambling involves skills and expertise, and that they can use them to win, without applying luck as a consideration. Even when one is able to dissect a match as well as comprehensively determine a particular pattern that exists within football, there are some factors that are unpredictable. It was deemed unwise to gravitate to the perception that gambling is a skill akin to any professional training since this is not assured to yield consistent victories. It can be concluded that an excessive concern regarding winning may divert your attention away from other activities that are more important and probable. For one to spend his/her time and energy in something to the most, it is preferable to learn something which will have a lasting impact rather than learning something that may not be fully managed.

What we can only analyze is an athlete or team's past performance but we have no idea how to analyze how they are doing for a particular match. Maybe they are not feeling their best physically or even they are mentally distracted and these are things that make sports so unpredictable. We can make assumptions but nothing is set to stone.
Better in what sense? Whatever you enjoy, go ahead and do that just make sure that you will be responsible doing whatever.

I would say that separating skill and luck at sport betting is gratuitous generality as those entities are interlaced with each other. You may make the best skill-based decision but fail i^{n this case luck acts like the noise on the skill-based signal} . The other way around,  your worse decision may bring you a luck. Thus the quality of our bets is the sum of two strands i.e skil and luck where the latter may influence  the  final outcome.

Maybe the word is not right because when he say that people should not rely on gambling as a source of income, that will be better to read.
Those people must realize that not many people have greater luck that will help them winning every time they playing gambling. Only some people can winning much money and use gambling to make a living while the rest of people can not do the same. But sports betting will be rely on luck and skills so it is better to add one more option than just two option so we can choose the third option. If we realize that sport betting rely on luck and skill, we will not willing to risk too big money in gambling because we know that we can not always win from gambling.

In my opinion, we must not decide whether sports bets are either totally related to luck or totally related to skill.
We can say that if you know football well, you will easily be better for getting out of the way
This is not enough !! It also takes luck, since you cannot know how luck turns. I would say a little luck and a little skill.

People need to handle gambling activities with utmost care because the results remain uncertain. Also players should not depend on gambling to generate their financial income because luck plays a bigger role than skill in determining the results. Big wins from gambling occur rarely because most people fail to reap such profits. Luck significantly influences the outcome in sports betting since the activity requires skill alongside it. We need to practise self restraint to avoid risking a sum of money that exceeds our spending abilities. Proper management of expectations remains the essential approach to minimise detrimental effects that exceed the positive outcomes of this activity.

Skill can matter in some games, because there are professional poker players who are able to earn big money and I think that they do it precisely because of their skill. In betting, skill also matters, those who can earn money on betting definitely do not rely on luck, but only on their knowledge, they adhere to the rules that do not allow them to make big mistakes. Success in betting depends on discipline and not on luck.

You would really be needing up to have such control at the moment or time that you do deal up with gambling or betting. Luck factor will be always the most important stuff that it is really that needing for you to be able to have such recognition which one you will be that taking it on analysis approach specially on betting on sports. We do know that when it comes to casino games then it will be that on pure luck based about on winning up but for sports then this is where you will be applying some analysis and knowledge towards a certain sport for you to increase up that chance for you to win up a certain bet. Its not really just that you can pick up blindly because there are factors that affect out the odds of winning a bet.

Just like on what others been saying that on the time that you do deal whether both things then you should be that always be considerate about the fact that everything is really just that for fun but if you are already having that different approach then this will be that an another story. This is why its really that recommended that whenever you are dealing up with these things then you should really be that making use of the amount that you can only afford to lose. Never ever goes beyond with your limits because this is where people or gamblers do usually mess up their life.

Both sports betting and poker can be considered skill-based gambling, but they’re not for everyone. We might believe they require skill, but if we’re not winning consistently, it’s better to accept reality and stop wasting money. Sometimes, it’s more enjoyable to just watch sports and bet small amounts, because either we win or lose there’s less emotional attachment, making our gambling activity entertaining.

The fact is that even a 1% luck factor might turn your entire game upside down. Therefore one might never actually be able to make money is they are unlucky. Then there are those who never had bad luck and were able to make a lot of money.

However do not place that second group as inspiration because they are not. Often stuff shown on media are cherry picked and there is no such thing as guru in sports betting.

Ultimately luck is what matters even if the game is EV+

There's no guarantee even how good your skills there's always luck that will favor you, and if you know how to work with your luck, the chance of making decent benefits is possible, though there's nothing that can be as sure bet whatever types of gambling you take, it's your way of executing your plans and make sure to keep it and not to exceed on both money and time that you'll going to spend..

I’d rather rely on skill because it gives me control, with luck, you have no control and you’ll never know when it runs out.

If you're lucky but don’t stop at the right time you’ll only realize your mistake after you’re done gambling. But at the same time, if you stop too early, you might end up blaming yourself for not betting more when luck was on your side.

So, it really depends on the situation and on the gambler’s mindset.

sports betting, skilled base or luck base? all gambling is still need to luck to win hahah ;D but If you ask some question like this than my answer is skilled base game because sport betting in my opinion just exactly like option trading when you win you get the money and there is no stop loss haha.

This is why AI based chat like ChatGPT Deepsek and Grok from X can make future prediction based on the past data and analyze from the player the winrate and etc. So more like Skill 85% and Luck is 25% in my opinion

Skill really depends on us, but luck does not, so it is logical that you try to influence only those things that make sense to influence. I bet the same way, the same applies to playing poker, where it also matters, so I like them more than other gambling games. And of course I do not like slots where luck is almost the main thing. In betting, I like to feel the game, look at the statistics, and when I watch my favorite team play, for me this is the peak of pleasure and a great time. I hope I will win more in the near future, although I am not going to immerse myself in dreams where I will get rich because of this.

Of course, you can use this time better, but you will never know if it is really so until you check it yourself. I like to watch some streamers who know how to place bets, and not spin the roulette or spins. So these poker streamers have been doing this for years, I have more trust in those who have been doing this for more than 10 years and earn good money. Of course, I understand that he also earns well due to contracts with some betting sites, but sincerity, thoughts and analytics bribe me to believe such streamers and that they are really good at this.

To enjoy betting not as a frenzy but as a measured and considered process does feel a lot more fun especially when we can accompany our knowledge of the game and of players with figures and statistics and with watching our favorite teams. However, unlike games of chance such as slots, analysis betting is a lot more entertaining to engage in. It is good to have the opportunity to read a game situation well enough to foresee the events planned and happening in-front of our very own eyes. Of course, this it is a good decision to keep expectation realistic to avoid straining this hobby to a wrong track. We can savour every steps without necessarily demanding for grand mirages because the very steps of the game or the enjoyments of the sport are good enough to afford us great values.

In my opinion it is impossible to say with percentage accuracy what is more important in sports betting, as it is highly dependent on a lot of random factors in each particular match.

We can argue about it for a long time, but we will never know the truth. The only thing we can say with certainty is that experience and luck in gambling and sports betting are the primary factors for success.

So that mean if someone want to place his bet, he must have knowledge about the sports and hope his lucky will come to him in the end of the match so he can win. Sports bets need to luck so we can not deny that we really rely on the luck. But the important from that is we know how much money we should place so we don't spend too much money in sport betting.

With the uncertainty in gambling, people should not place their bet more than they can afford to lose because that can make them regret when they lose. But that will not stop them to keep placing the other bets in the next matches because they want to win from the other matches. They think that they now have their luck that will give them a chance to win besides of knowledge to analyze the match. But that will not guarantee them to win because everything can happen in the middle of the match. Management risk will be needed in this matters so we can hold ourselves from placing more bets if we don't know for sure about the next match or we already losses for some money.

In sports betting I don't really want to rely too much on luck but in spot betting I think own strategy is more effective. The more skill there is and the more understanding a gambler has about the sport, the more likely he is to win in this gambling game. Many gamblers do this in the first place by fixing a certain amount to bet without worrying about which team they will bet on. Due to such mistakes it is seen that they depend on luck by betting on any team but luck cannot give them victory because the team which is stronger than the opponent will win the match. 

If there is no additional skill in sports betting then at least the skill every gambler should have is to be able to distinguish between weak and strong teams and consider the field of play in order to make a betting decision.

We use sport betting to decrease random. Luck is one of such moments. So it looks too silly to decrease your chances in the only type of gambling, you can predict.
If someone believes in luck - good choice would be to play casino games without spending time for analyze.

You are right, mate, skill do matter too for most casino games and sports too but I know for sure that we can not take away luck from anything that is of gambling.  Just like you said, there are some players that totally depend on their knowledge, they don't believe in luck but even with such believe, does it mean that they don't lose bets that was supposed to just go the way they predicted it? The answer is, yes, they lost bets that should have just gone as predicted but it didn't go that was, In such a situation, they were unlucky and their skill did play out. That's why I always believe that luck in gambling is very serious.

In fact, such unexpected events always happen in gambling, even it happened to me, where I thought all the time that I would definitely win this game, but at the last moment an unexpected event changed the whole game, and I lost that game that was likely to be won. Who should I blame in this case? That team? Every player in the team? No, that is, we have nothing to do in this case, because no team loses intentionally, and the performance of the players is not always the same.
So in gambling, skill, experience and luck, both are equally important, winning is determined by the combination of skill, experience and luck. So understand everything and gamble with money that you can lose, because unexpected events are very normal in gambling.

That's the point if you experienced luck best to stop and enjoy what you already got instead of pushing for more, that's how working with luck as same wth your statement you'll only realize that mistake when the opportunity passed and nothing you can do but to accept it with regret in your mind.

And yes, it's always good being practical playing or gamblig with your skills as it gave some decent edge as you know what needs to be done when placing your bet or your pick.

In casino obviously depends on luck but in sportbetting whether that is cricket, soccer and other sports must need to analyse several factors in this case gamblers must have to be skilled otherwise it is not possible to get a good profit. Those who can place bet by checking the odd ultimately will be loser. And it is important that all time skilled may not be perfect and winning might not be possible.

Still, I believed skills is the most important keys to hit the winning target when doing sports betting. Without that, you won't fulfill the best analysis for your best chosen teams to bet for, but if thinking about luck it's just a motivational mindset. If you're really losing, luck has no significant part on that. You could prevent being unlucky, once you started to lose few dollars then don't continue that actions because stopping is the very safest decision to do.

I recall a phrase from the author of one book on poker, who wrote that even a beginner with a couple of good cards can beat a master of the game with a couple of bad cards. Therefore, skill in gambling is certainly a very important thing, but it can only manifest itself with a sufficient level of luck. However, only beginners can rely on luck alone. Luck is fickle. Today, luck favors some, tomorrow, others. But our goal is not just to make money on luck. Our goal is to surpass luck. This, in fact, means skill. But skill can only manifest itself over a very long period.

I'm talking about the long term here, and I feel every gambler has an equal chance in terms of luck, it just doesn't come at the same time for everyone. However, skills aren't equal because one person might work hard to improve theirs, while another might not, believing that gambling is all about luck.

That's the big difference - mindset matters.

I think all will agree that sports betting is more of skills but with have some grain of luck as well. But I don't think that I'd be confident to say that if I ever focus on it and improve my betting skills, I'll be able to make it. I won't probably so but who knows? I have proven it to myself that it really requires some still in it but if you are just the type of guy that want to have fun, this is it for you. Go to your favorite NBA matches and have yourself some treat of looking which team to bet without having any skills at all and just mere luck since we all grew up with any of the sports in our community and neighborhood.

Gambling skills are the main factor that supports us to have a great chance of winning, in terms of card games such as poker, even when you have good cards of course it will not be useful if you do not have good skills and mentality in handling it, as well as bad cards that can actually win you with your existing skills,  While luck in my opinion is more inclined to be the main factor in games such as slots, because basically slots do not require skills other than luck in the game, while when you bet on sports betting, of course you must have expertise in analyzing each match with also the support of luck on the predictions that are made, that it is better than we have to bet blindly without any reference in Make a bet.

I think it's both skill and luck based. Because I can't win with skill, in some matches the team at the top of the points table loses against the team at the bottom of the points table, what do you say here? In some matches skill doesn't work, you have to be lucky. In some matches the weaker team can become stronger.

You skills will make you confident and you will get benefits but you cannot guarantee. I believe it is possible to win with skill but you can't win every match. So I think sports betting depends on both skill and luck.

I am also convinced that it is a combination of both skills and luck. For all of the casino games and sports bet that we do, we always associate it with luck.

Even the most skilled poker players and other gambling pros, they'd always call for luck to come to them because they know that even if they are skillful, if not luck isn't with them, they'll simply going to lose money eventually.

Betting skills keep you aware of the team which is the key to participating in any bet with confidence. I see such experienced gamblers as having a much higher chance of winning and their luck may be to win the final. If you expect 50/50 then you may be wrong I would give more priority to experience or skill. In casino and other gambling cases, the chance of winning may be given equal priority but when betting you have to gain more experience through skill. The experience that you will gain in your long-term betting and the right idea about the team will easily lead to winning in the bet based on analysis.

Being confident through skill can prevent sports betting from losing even a little. Every possibility will expand you to another challenge of failure through which you can be more educated.

Winning with skill is possible but you still need luck. Sports betting and casino games need luck so we can not deny that really important in the sport betting. If people say that skill is more important than luck, that is not wrong but more precisely gamblers must have luck to win.

Without win, we can not win and even we can see that the match running as our prediction but we still lose because there will be something happen that will be out of our analysis. We should consider that everything can happen to the field so we should think that we have the prediction and we wait for the luck comes and help us to win.

Everyone needs luck because sports betting, while often seen as a skill game, is still a game of chance. That means you'll have a better shot at winning when luck is on your side. But saying you "need" luck implies you can't win unless you're lucky all the time, which isn't true. Skills can work consistently, even if you face some losses, if your wins outweigh your losses, your skills will make you profitable in the long run.

we often say how luck is needed but you can still get some profits from sports betting there are so many formats of betting out there that you can surely find a way to get some profits by betting on these different formats and not just the straight win/lose kind of bet

if you have no plans of analyzing a match then you would need all the luck in the world but if you have done some bit of analysis then still pray for at least a bit of luck

Luck is something which is on default on which this is the main thing on which could be the reason for you to win up completely. Yes, it will really be depending on a certain type of gambling whether you will be basing up for strategic based or will be luck based totally but in overall on which it will be basing up with luck because no matter how good your analysis would be but if luck isnt on your side then you would definitely be losing it up no matter what. When it comes to choice and preference then it will be that up to you on which one you will be that basing into your interest but actually you can be able to do both things specially not all the time that there are some good bets out there when you do see up a particular team/player to be on a good odds.

The thing on here is that you do only that make use of the amount you can afford to lose and that enjoy up the game whether you are playing on casino games or betting on sports. So it will be that up to you on what are the things that you are really that interested into. When it comes into this situation then make it sure that you wont be that spending up that too much when it comes to money and just enjoy the game.

I love this, we should never believe that luck is partial, it can visit anyone at any time and it can deny someone who is dire in need of it. This is why we should never do anything that will make us desperately yearn for luck, we should be at the top of our games by being responsible at all times we take risks. However, the skill is a bit different, we can be better than others, we see that in all facets of life, so, that can shift the tide in our favour, especially if we've trained well to deserve it.

I agree with what you said that sports betting is more about skill but there is also a grain of luck in it. We can't say that it is entirely based on skill, because in one case sometimes the team that we think will win with all our analysis actually loses to the underdog team, it could be because of unpredictable elements—like an injury, or other things. So I see it that in the long run, skill can increase your chances of winning but luck is one factor that should not be ignored.

In sportsbetting, your skills may prevent your losses which means you can safeguard your bankroll just because of your skill on sport events but your luck will fetch you good profits because when you go betting on underdogs and your luck works, then you can make decent profits but with your skill, you can choose stronger team/person to win but odds will not in your favor to get you more profits but no losses is guaranteed. So, luck alone may get you more profits which may bring changes in your life.

There are lots of sportsbetting types where only luck factor needed like for example who will score first goal or who will hit first six in cricket matches. These types of things cannot be predicted by analyzing the strength of team. So, luck plays 99% of role on deciding your winning.

That is why we can not playing gambling too long considering we can not get the luck after playing gambling for some time. Sports betting must have luck beside of skill so we can have more chances to win. But we must remember to place a small bet to avoid the big lose so we don't have to suffer when we lose our money. We can not rely on gambling to make money because gambling aka sports betting is just for entertainment.

All gambling games type need luck because gambling is an activity that give us chance to win some money. But people forget many times that gambling will be like that so they keep playing gambling without stop and even they trying to chase the winning. They forget the luck will be needed in gambling games including sport betting so they must consider to stop gambling after lose their money for some time.

That will not be good if they still chase the win or recover their losses because no guarantee they can get it easily. Gambling even will take all of their money without left so it is better they forget to chase the win instead just to enjoy the games.

Honestly at some point I wanted to give a contrary opinion on what you said in the beginning, but reading down to your last statement, I believe I have nothing to object anymore. But still, I’ll say a few things. Gambling, particularly sports betting is considered as a luck based game because luck is the dominant factor that determines the outcome of every bet, regardless of the player’s skills or experience in sports analysis. The skill only gives the player an edge and advantage, but the actual thing that determines the player’s victory is strictly luck. A player without luck but has skill can actually emerge victorious but it’s not the same fate for a player who has the skills but lacks luck.

And the reality that must be accepted is that luck comes unexpectedly and cannot be determined when luck will come to help someone win in gambling, what can be done is just try by applying some skills and knowledge, regarding the results we just leave it to the fate that we have.
Sometimes the games and bets that we doubt actually give winning but what is believed and really believed actually gives lost, haha ​​this is gambling that mostly has mystery.

If you're really a gambler, you wouldn't want to stop when you're enjoying yourself and making money, it's like the mindset of those who've faced losses, thinking that we should never play for too long. Most of us here have probably been gambling for years, and even though many of us lose money, we still keep playing because we know how to discipline ourselves and manage our bets. Of course, it's pretty exceptional if you actually have the skills to win in the long run.

Yes, that's right. When playing poker, a master player cannot be absolutely sure of his victory.

A lot depends on luck, i.e. on the playing cards he gets when dealing. Nevertheless, in the long term, a master player will win more than he loses. This allows us to consider his activity as entrepreneurial, i.e. providing a constant income over a long period.

The situation is similar with sports betting. A player should not set himself the goal of always winning. This is absolutely not a realistic goal. The real goal is to exceed the amount of winnings over the amount of losses in the long term.

Strictly speaking, this is also true in business. The main goal is to exceed income over expenses, i.e. profit.

Since you compare sports betting to business, you can't say that a lot relies on luck because for a business to succeed, it should be run by someone capable enough to make it profitable. And of course, it's basic accounting: to get a profit, you need to have a bigger income than your expenses.

So in sports betting, it should be treated like a skill-based game so we can be confident that we'll be profitable in the long run. All we need is to ensure we have more wins than losses, and experts say we will be profitable as long as we hit the magic number of over 53% winning rate.

From my experience in many years of my involvement is sports betting, I would say it's both together. Yea! You need the skill of prediction and also a degree of luck to win.  If we say it's just skill, then many would have turned millionaires and billionaires today because there are lots of sports games to bet on daily, and as they keep on using there skill of prediction, then they keep winning daily, but NO. Winning isn't easy at all. The same pattern, same football club or country that gave you winning in your last prediction can scatter everything for you in your next prediction. I gave an instance in one of my post earlier about Liverpool and Nottingham Forest home & away match in the EPL this season. The results still shocks people because of the way it turned against the league leaders. I wonder the prediction skill that will predict that score accurately before the matches.

So many other games play alike. You would be expecting something else after going through stats, previous encounters, head to head of the teams and also current form, and then you place your bet, and you will be shocked of the end result. Another example is the EPL encounter between Arsenal and Manchester city, after defeating city, was dealt with by Newcastle United home and away. This same Newcastle was dealt with by the same city, 4 goals to nil. So, if it's all by skill, how do you get such predictions right.

If you ask me, sincerely I feel it's 40% or45% skill and 60% or 55% Luck. Yea! It doesn't always work as we expected, that's why it is called PREDICTION!

Any form of betting is primarily based on the luck, let's put in the simplest term.

If there's a game which I have no idea of which team will win and I have been asked to bet on the game so now I have 50/50 chances of winning the game remember my knowledge about the game is zero so I just pick one and still can win if I am lucky. But we can't claim that one who is extremely knowledge about a particular game can say that this team is going to win in the game for 100% sure.

That should be the goal, and if we have that kind of belief, we will understand that it's possible to be profitable in sports betting because there's a process to achieve it. But if we're gamblers who think that all types of gambling can only be won by luck, then we won't consider the complex strategies needed to win. So it really depends on the mindset of each individual, but when it comes to the argument of whether gambling is based on luck or skill, there's no right or wrong answer, it all depends on how you justify it.

Indeed right, even how sure you think you are there's no such word as guaranteed win, upset can happen as we all know heavy underdog can still win if luck is not in your side, that good example that you provide, if luck is with you even you place your bet with a blindfold you can still win on that session, skills and experieced are being used to serve as basis an to tighten your trust with the selected pick that you choose.

You mean without luck, we cannot win even those matches where predicted good by us. There is always some times that we're going to lose no matter how good our skills are and with those predictions.

That's why it is for me a combination of both. Even we don't admit it, your skill determines how good you are but that won't be enough if we're playing with the chances.

Because no skills can determine how chances are going to good with us if we're just simply fortunate.

I will go with all is about skills and luck , despite your skills aslong you gambling you always need luck to win most times , the thing About skill it will give Higher chances of making a better decision that would increase your chances of winning , so skills doesn't fully guarantee you any wins you also need luck to make the equation balance so you both luck and skills in  Sport betting. There's nothing you are doing wrong gambling either win or lose justvtiw ways .

I am not a regular gambler but I playing gambling occasionally because gambling give me a fun time. I realize that playing gambling can make us forget the time so I am trying to strictly to myself by always stop gambling. My reason to playing gambling is not making money but spend my spare time by playing slot games.

Yes, although we lose the money, that will not stop us from playing gambling in the other days. But we must have control and know when we can playing gambling.

Yes, that is because luck will take a major role in gambling. Even if you have a good prediction but the match change in the middle, that will not make you win. We don't have our luck in that match but when we place a bet randomly and we can win, that is because we have luck. Yes, that will be a combination for both, skill and luck together and if we don't have one of those, we will not win. But we must trying to improve our skill in analyzing the match so that can give us more chance to pick the right team. So skills and luck will help us to win.

For me it's about being knowledgeable how and where to accumulate information and data to analyze in order to have specific information about the team you want to bet. But yeah i agree as well about being lucky , hence that luck will not happen always because i believe mostly results about winning in sport betting came from fundamental analysis as it give a high probability coz you can see which team have good percentage on the match and so on.

So what you said is concluded about skills, how good our skills are to do this sports betting does affect, this can increase our chances of winning but don't forget that even so, luck still plays a role. So no matter how good the skills and information you have, it does not guarantee that you will be able to get victory for sure because luck is still involved.

Looking at it from the percentage of chances to win, everyone can do this and I think those who are interested in this game must have good enough skills, unfortunately not everyone can be lucky in gambling.

Apparently sports betting involves so many tactics but the majority of it's game is based on luck, mostly you may tend to apply so much skills and strategies but you end up loosing the game but what guarantees your win is your luck, so this is why i have a conviction that luck plays most vital role in sports betting. Sometimes you may think you're in control of the game but little do you know that it's your luck that collaborattes with your skills to ascertain a win.

Indeed, basically in my opinion all gambling involves luck, even with games that do require players to have skills, it still involves luck, so this luck is the main factor that will determine whether we can win or not in gambling, therefore I believe that all types of gambling must be related to luck including winning. why do many people force themselves to pursue victory? that's one example if they don't care about the luck side.
With those who have tried to apply their best strategies and utilize their analysis, that's a good thing in sports betting, just don't forget the luck factor too because after all sports betting still involves luck.

The decision to gamble, for some people it comes with a great passion and for some other gamblers it is just an ordinary thought to feel what others feel while gambling. You didn't quit because you probably have passion for gambling and just like me too, I have passion for gambling but all my years of gambling I don't think there's any formula that can be used to get constant winning but if you have skills for sports event you will win well frequently but not always.

I think the most correct way to evaluate this is as if betting were a hybrid of both luck and knowledge, after all, you need to have practically all the knowledge of "fundamental analysis" of the club or team you are going to bet on, added to that the analysis of probabilities and finally luck... in that order. Therefore, there are players with a more "professional" way of analyzing and betting and there are also players who simply go by opinion and bet on what they believe... anyway, it is quite relative... but as I said, it is a hybrid of all of this.

It is a mixture of both skill and luck with skill being the dominant of the two.

We all know that knowledge on sports betting is one key factor to give a more accurate prediction of the match than just relying on luck.  With the skill acquired of analyzing, comparing data, creating a sound projection of the performance of each player on the upcoming based on their current performance and condition can greatly affect the chance of successful odd prediction.

Although sports betting largelyd epends on the skill of the bettor, we cannot overlook luck because there will always be an unknown factor that can affect the result of the match.  So for me, it is a combination of both with a parameter more inclined to skill.

It's purely luck base, nothing like skill in sport betting. If its by skill people won't tag sport betting as a bad addict because it would've fetch us enough money.  Because when you're skillful in a thing it will be hard for you to lose or fail in that field.  But in sport betting no matter how skillful you are in your predictions and analysis you will never know the outcome 80%. Its just a lucy game, you will make a good predictions and the team will mess you up on the field. Embrace sport betting as a lucky game then you will be guided and won't be surprised if th outcome doesn't favour your predictions.

Show me one skillful bet punter in the world, sport betting is very old stuff without a professional or an expert gamblers.  If you believe sport betting is skill based you will end up with those scammers selling games on social media. No body should buy game its a big scam.

We should try to improve our skills in gambling no matter how lucky we are with our past bets. That isn't going to stay for us for a long time but there are folks that are truly lucky no matter what they do.

It's all about how they keep themselves better through their skills and acknowledges luck at all times no matter how good they are.

If it's not sports betting, I'd call the pro poker players as skillful punters.

If gambling is what people can always win with knowledge then gamblers will go to the extent of having enough knowledge to always win their games.

Gambling is about luck even even with the knowledge one has already gained, just having knowledge about gambling is what makes it to be fun and atleast to know what you are doing even if there is no guarantee of winning.  In some gambling games good knowledge gives good chances of winning but their is still no guarantee that it will always make one to win.

Luck is the main factor in winning in gambling. If someone gives more priority to luck for winning, that is the appropriate principle. However, in the case of luck-based betting, luck is more involved. Here, luck is also needed in sports betting, but if someone can take a good decision about any sport by observing it well, then the chances of winning in sports betting will be much higher. I think there is a combination of luck and skill in such bets, which is why these bets cannot be won by only luck or skill. Games like slots or roulette are completely dependent on luck, but in sports betting, both luck and skill work. Many can win a sports match by using good research and skill.

That is right but we must not forget that our skill in gambling will still rely on luck which we don't know when that will comes. We could only hope that our luck will come in the right time especially when we are playing gambling so we can win. But if there is people who can be lucky and win in gambling, we can not jealous to them because we have different luck and we can only wait for our turn to get our luck.
Yes, they must take care of themselves in gambling, Winning in gambling will be difficult so they must not risk too much money in gambling. Although they can improve their skill, they must be careful placing their bet.

One thing about sport bet is that you must be ready to do some research when choosing team you want to beg on. Most time you might choose dangerous team to win and everything will end up in the way you have predicted it. That's why we need to understand that the luck aspect of gambling is needed for us to keep winning. I have bet on small teams many times with high chances of winning but everything still ends up in losses.

Every gambler must know that luck is very important as a gambler because that is what is going to make us make money from betting. Without luck, if we based our winning on skills and strategy we might not be having the kind of results that we think and plan on having. Gambling can be very complicated especially for those that do not have good understanding about betting.

It won't rely on luck but a skill is a skill and it is just accompanied sometimes by luck. But I don't agree that it is wholly reliant on one's luck.

If that is so then we don't have to be skilled for its purpose and only rely to luck completely by then. By which is a shortcut of what you are saying.

And as you've said that we don't know when luck is coming and so, with having skills, you don't have to wait for it and that's why it's better to have it but never forget that we do need luck too.

It is a combination of the two but should be more on luck. Besides, having odds doesn't mean that will help us determine who will win exactly. The same thing when choosing a team to win, whether it is a favorite or the underdog. This means that aside from analyzing their performance to see which team we have to place our bet on, we also hope for luck. In this probability game, we will say that our luck determines whether we are going to win or not, while strategies are just backups.

No, sports betting is not the same as a casino, where in most cases your winnings will depend on luck. If you are well versed in the sport you are betting on, then your chances of winning will be significantly higher than if you were choosing a result at random.

Yeah, based on the information you've got connected to the players, venue, recent match history, and several data, it is easy to come up with the right prediction on the outcome of the match. However, at times things go out of our prediction, and this is all because of the luck factor. This way luck also has its role. To me, sports betting is kind of 85% skill and the remaining 15% depends on luck.

I think the guy understands this, he might only not know the gravity of the word "majority used."

No one can say any aspect of gambling doesn't have luck associated with it no matter how much we would want to deny that, but at the same time, where skills/efforts should be given praise, luck shouldn't deny them that. There are more times in sports betting you will be almost 100% sure of your predictions, and it will come as predicted. That can't be said of the casino games that are almost 100% reliant on luck.

Yes, I agree that is a combination of both luck and skill that will help us to win. Without one of those things, we will difficult to win and lose our money. If you don't want to lose money in betting, you must control your funds and only place a small money to betting so you will not regret with you lose the money. We can analyze the team performance to see which team that have potential to win but we must realize that will not a guarantee we can win because everything can happen in the field.

That is exactly what we are looking for, to have the balance between luck and skill, it is very difficult to achieve such a thing, because we are not always on a roll, knowing these things that are so basic, there is no other choice but to appeal to control the money with which we are playing or with which we are going to play, it is always advisable to do it before playing, not during the game, during the game we can activate adrenaline along with greed and that will bring very bad results, that is what we need to Control.

85% is actually really high although sometimes due to the result we get from the data’s we have gathered on a particular game our confidence is on the high side but even as that I still think our prediction skill increases our chance of winning up to 60-70% I give the luck factor and other unforeseen factors the rest 30 to 40%, we do what we can with the data we have at hand, but in most cases the team playing can just disappoint us on the spot by under performing as expected.

Sports betting is basically about your knowledge on the type of sports you are interested in betting on, so it's a skilled based game but there's still a percentage of luck involved in this. No matter how well your predictions or analysis might be, there are times where it can fail you, and there are so many factors involved in this that cannot be controlled. Sports betting involves more of skills than luck but it doesn't mean that it's hundred percent guaranteed that's why you must always cut down the risks you are taking, remember that you are not in control of the game.

I guess I've said something similar in some other thread before. it doesn't matter if it's sport betting or gambling in general, they all are lucky based. Skill comes in play when you have a lot of experience with gambling or betting to be precise. That way, you know how to properly arrange your odds to favor you and know which team to bet on or not. Even after all that, you might still have to hope that you are lucky so your games all comes out as predicted. Just one game can ruin your bet. So it's all luck not skill.

Of course, no matter how well you know about sports, there may always be some circumstances that do not depend on you, but may affect the outcome of the meeting. Therefore, from time to time we observe how an outsider defeats the leader of the championship and it is difficult to predict such a result.

Since it's kind of difficult to predict the results of the match because some unpredictable circumstance might occur during the game play time, a gambler can not be a hundred percent sure of his predictions when the game hasn't ended. This is why gamble is based on luck, although your skill might also help you achieve a winning but luck plays a big role in gambe which makes luck very important while you are gambling.

And even if we know everything, gambling guarantees nothing when it comes to winning. But what we are trying here is to increase the odds of winning. That is why we go through game analysis and apply strategies. It is very important rather than wild guesses and gambling blindly because that only relies on luck, which is not how sports betting is meant to be, or in general.
Self-control is a part of being a responsible gambler, and it is necessary just to keep everything working right and not compromise our budgeting.

Specific games require skills and not only luck but you're right that if dive down to gambling in general, we'd end up about how being lucky we are just to get into these wins.

The odds, the chances, we're all hoping for them to get into but we have to do our work in doing the research. And that's part of the skills and that's why, it's still gonna need some job to do before we rely on luck.

Anyway, if you say so that it's all luck and not skill, you are not wrong with that and if someone says it's the opposite, the same thing not wrong too.

Indeed, even you did your research there are factors that can still affect the outcome, things that unforeseen when you place your bet, a good example if injuries happened during the game surely it affects the performances of the players or the team, it's something that can change the direction of the outcome.

There's no guarantee at you can assume and hope that with luck will be at your side after placing your bet.

I can not say that, sport betting is luck based because the gambler isn’t the one playing the match but rather betting on them and as such, you shouldn’t be one considered luck but the players in the match.
There are a whole lot of factors that contributes to the success of a sport bettor and one is how much and how well they’ve been able to observe and get knowledgeable in a particular game or players and teams and if these factors are carefully selected, there would be more success than losses for a player.

I will say that, sport betting is more of skill based to luck and if there is anything like luck in sport betting, then I would prefer it’s been categorized as skill 85% while luck is 15% and as a Bettor, you own just 5% from the luck while the other 10% goes to the match players.

Generally, betting on a game is skill based and you can’t be able to come up with a better explanation to this to disapprove it of not being a luck based game. You are yet to make money from it because the luck is yet to shine on you. Even when you have the skills, let’s say you know very well teams that has a loser tendency to win a game than the other one, that doesn’t mean you will win any game you predicted to that gives such team a chance to win. The probability of your prediction winning hs lesser odds than your prediction of probability of now winning, so in some games, some people try their luck to give a good chance to teams that are less privileged to win in order to win big. So it is all based on luck and no strategy works for it to compare it to a skill tht one can apply at anytime.

You talked about the word "CHANCE". That "chance of winning" brought in the luck he's talking about. Although elements of luck may be low in sport betting when compare to other betting but it can't be fully erased. Have once mistakenly played "home or draw" instead of my prediction which was "home or away". This mistake made me won the ticket. Predictions is not /00% accurate, this made luck have it way into sport betting especially when playing an accumulated bet.

Not only in accumulated bet both in single bet, because there are some people who always base on a single bet and they will still end up experiencing lose. So whether accumulated bet or not so far as is gambling, of course luck always play it roll. even if you want to apply the whole gambling skill, You will definitely experience lose one day, so the fact remains that gambling is just a luck based.

A game may still go against you even though you make a good analysis of the match. Imagine when an underdog lunch a counter attack that lead to there goal till full match ends. Do you even see this in your prediction. Imagine a red card given within the match and many more. Sport betting go along with good analysis and luck.

Moreover, there is a red card when the match is in progress, this clearly affects the team from attacking to defending.
Have you ever experienced something similar? Of course I have and often the bet ends up losing because they lack players due to red cards.

It cannot be avoided just like that, you can analyze which players will get injured or get a red card then this is a factor outside of analysis, you can say the luck factor again is decisive.

You are right in betting no matter how good someone's skills are, of course you will experience defeat and luck is very important to be able to win a bet or many bets that we place and with luck of course we will be able to win the bets we play and when betting we must also be able to have self-control and not bet beyond our abilities so that we do not have problems in terms of finances.

In a match anything can happen and no matter how good the analysis we have made before placing a bet, it may not go according to our predictions, then we will experience defeat in the bet without having luck in the bet we place, so in betting skills and luck are needed to be able to win the bets we place and with the skills and luck on our side of course we will be able to win the bets we play.

Usually such luck is not only for gamblers but for the underdog team because they can get good chance from the mistakes of the favorite team, but things like this do not happen all the time and we as gamblers must be smarter in determining and considering the predictions of the results of the analysis carried out.
Luck in sports bet is just good fate for gamblers when they choose what should not happen, you are right that there is no guarantee that anyone can get lucky after they place bet.

Yes, If we can balance between luck and skill, we can enjoy the gambling games and will not difficult to achieve that thing. Sports betting need skill and luck to win and we need to improve our skill so we can analyze the match like other people. If that is done, we can wait for the luck comes to us and we can win the match. But if we can not win the match because our luck not come, we don't have to feel sad because we have more time to place the other bet and win the match. That is why we must control the money that we will use to place a bet so we don't have to regret when we lose.

Now sports betting is not just based on luck. We know gambling depends on luck, but casino games and sports are different. In casino games you place bets that have a 50% chance of losing or winning. But in sports betting you need to see if the team is good, see which team's players are performing well, see the head to head record, see if they are playing at home. Now skill in sports betting will give you advantage but cannot guarantee you win, if you are not lucky then you won't win. But betting without analysis in sports betting is foolish, so bet with analysis.

That's right, in fact when we are starting as novices we want to know many strategies because at least I thought that with so many strategies something had to work to win, but it is not like that, you need to be very lucky, in view of this sometimes I look in the forums for strategies with players who play a lot to see if their strategies Coincided with mine and to see if theirs were better than mine, in bitcointalk I got information of that Style and the truth is it was very Specific, for that reason whenever we do anything in the casino we must always have as a basis that our Money is well spent with great moderation, considering the strategies and our luck so as not to spend more than expected.

When playing gambling games, the best strategy is to have no strategy at all. I have learned this after so many personal experiences and from the experiences of others. As they say, wise people learn from their mistakes, but wiser people learn from the mistakes of others. This is why our observation powers play a great role in life because they allow us to observe what others are doing, and what consequences they have to face for certain actions, and then we apply those things when we are doing the same thing to reduce the chances of failure.

In sports betting, things are different. You will need a strategy in this area of gambling, and your strategy should be combined with your research and analysis and general understanding and knowledge of the sport you are making bets on.

Acceptance is very important in terms of the result of your bet, if you failed even you already done with your research and luck did not permit you to win, just move forward and re-try the next game you placeyour bet, it's not an assurance to always win even you have that skills, there's always upset that can take place as we don't have the capability to predict the outcome accurately, just keep in mind that you are inside gambling and it's more on luck than any other things that affect the outcome.

In sports betting when there is luck it is because they are very extraordinary cases, but in the case of current football I have realized that any result is very possible and that it can happen, now the teams are very capable of achieving things that before seemed Difficult, and when one makes the bets, things turn out the other way around, but it is as you say, it is not a reason to be disappointed or to feel bad, it is normal, there are always good opportunities, in the casinos or in the games it is also like that, you always have to have a cool head for these things.

You are correct and I agree with you that the most important thing to be a winner in a sportsbook is skills as well as experience. Without skill and experience, there is no way to think which team will and which will not and how many runs, goals, corners, outs, etc will happen in the match. If it is based on the odds then the chance of becoming a loser will be too high.

Yes i agree, everybody has luck, the only issue most gamblers face is due to not applying enough skills during their selections, if it were alone left on luck, there would have been almost all bet successful and when people don't have this skill they tend to rely more on tips from social places if it was all about luck then maybe gamblers would have to make their selections random, same reason most persons pay for games which i don't find comfort doing.

Yes, even though it is like that, we also have to remember that luck is sometimes an unpredictable x factor in soccer betting, even though we know historically and how to assess a team's strength, but luck on the field by a team whose performance is weaker in terms of data can make them bring the match outside our analysis, and it is very difficult to calculate in a data analysis, so the possibility of up to 50% -70% of victory can be possible if you have the skills to do the analysis and the rest is luck or unexpected things that can break our thinking.

Skill is actually the best key element in sports betting, but let’s not also forget that a little bit of luck as well can also go a long way. Generally, if you have both skill and luck, sports betting outcomes will definitely end up highly profitable. Add to it are those reliable experiences that will boost your performance in sports betting, when you achieve that, your bets will most likely become a life-changer in the end.

Luck is indeed on default if we do speak about on the factors that affects out winning then this is the primary thing that you would really be needing in order to win up. The thing here when you do deal up with sports betting is that it does really need up that experience and analyzation on which it will really be something relevant on which in compared into casino games on which this one is really that heavily relying with luck. You would be able to differentiate in between gambling on casinos and with sports betting on which the difference is something that you could be able to identify on what you do really need and on what approach you will really be trying out to do. Choices will be made in accordance into your interest and preference on which each gambler will really be having that different approach too.

That is what we can do in gambling but we must know how to limit our gambling time and not getting big lose. We can still research for the next match but we must always remember that we can not have a big hope to win because the match can change anytime. Yes, there is no assurance we can win easily from the match so we can only have fun inside the match. if we think that we can not predict accurately, we don't have to push ourselves and better to enjoy the match.

Yeah, any result can happen in the match so we don't have to bother with the result and only need to enjoy the match. While our betting will be on there, we only place the money that we can afford to lose. We can win from our bet but we can not expect much about that as we don't search money from betting and only spend our time to have fun. We must avoid the big lose by not placing too big money so we will not regret it when we lose.

Although any outcome happens during a given game and people should look at gambling as entertainment and not a source of income, we still need to make an effort to analyze the games before they start so that we can get our bets right. Because the fun part of sports betting is in the person's ability to correctly predict the results of the games.

You need skill and at the same time, you need luck. It's you skill that can give you confidence to maximize your ways into any kind of bet that you want to make and if luck follows you that very day, you will eat good amount of money. Most of the time, if you don't have the skill, you wouldn't have self confidence to manage your game well but if do have the skills, you will be making good predictions and the day it comes with luck, yout take home will speak for you.

Though, some people do have luck and don't have the skill. Such gamblers are the kind of gamblers that copy other gamblers and put money on their games to win. They are very good at analyzing gamblers that have high rate winning, they follow them and max bet any game they drop, it's usually free, the day they win is the day they also win and the day they lose is the day they also lose, there success is determined by the outcome of the original bettor.

That's possible while others just purely rely on their luck doing blind bets.

Also, there are gamblers who uses other people analysis and use it as basis before they do their research. This kind of strategy is also good and it saves some time although there's a chance the gambler who copied might still end up using the prediction of the copied analysis.
I had been successful before on copying a ticket from a Stake sports gambler and he was really good at what he was doing. The only problem is that I cannot see him anymore or maybe he is not sharing his tickets anymore when he witnessed he is making good results. So, I really believe skill base has a higher percentage of winning than relying on luck.

Yes, and that is the correct way to bet, not to bet too much or what we cannot lose, but what we are willing to lose, without our life becoming a mess, we must always have control of that, to be clearer, the game is a matter of enjoyment, what is in the process is much Better, and of course when you win it is like that small trophy that we receive.

When we bet wisely not only if we lose will we be fine, we will Know that we have tried and that on another occasion we can be luckier, but always bet under our Wisdom.

It safe if you look that way, instead of stressin yourself trying to win or trying to recover your loses, you have to understand that there's no assurance that you can win your bet, it's more on luck and how you execute your plan strategy, take the side of enjoying your session and not to focus alone with the potential money to earn.

Your call as it's your money to take care, skills may help but it's luck that will bring you the win together with the enjoyment that you earn.

Focusing on winning back is always bad, past losses should be assessed only as experience gained, lessons for which you paid, and further play should be focused on skill, but without blind desire to win back, then you can hope for a profit, otherwise it will all be useless. Playing for luck is also a game without hope of winning, maybe once, but no more.

Gamblers at a greater amount have unique intentions that revolves around winning. The major question is what players regard as success in gaming. Being able to save up bankrolls could be considered a win, there exist numerous ways to make profits in gambling, including withholding mental stability.

Unfortunately, false information circulates amongst new players, who assume winning must be monetary inclined, that's why they fail so much. On a simpler notion, gamers need to forgo whatever has been lost and focus on managing what's left in the bankroll.

I doubt there are many ways to win at gambling, although yes there are, but it will not guarantee that we can win, because as far as I know, winning at gambling depends on luck and yes, all types of gambling are like this, whether it is pure or requires skills and knowledge like sports betting. I believe sports betting is a game that requires skill to do it, but this is also inseparable from luck.
It's better if we don't have to think about what we've lost in gambling (money), when we lose and think about the money we've lost, what can happen is that we will only experience an uneasy heart and yes, the urge to chase that loss will be there.

I totally agree with you when you Said that we shouldn't think about our lost, of course thinking about our lost can lead us into depression and from there you can start having negative thoughts.  However, I think this was the reason why most gamblers always find it very difficult to withdraw from playing gamble.  Because whenever time they think about their lost, at this point even if you advice them to quite from gambling they won't even say a word. Though is always very difficult to let go off those loses, but since we have not been wining from gambling I think the best thing to do is just to withdraw from it so as to avoid having more losing record.

It seems to me that the most important thing is to work out the system, then it can be used with any amounts, if it works with small stakes, then it should also work with larger stakes. But if you can’t achieve victory with lower stakes, it means that there is no point in starting the game with higher ones, because this will only lead to bigger losses. When it comes to money, we should rely only on our skill and not rely on luck.

I would say that sports betting is both skill based and luck based. It depends on how much time you put into researching teams, players, coaches etc. You need to know the sport inside out in order for it to be successful. The more research you do before placing bets, the better chance of winning.

Gambling guarantees nothing, but at least doing research is a little bit advantageous in sports betting. This is how sports betting attracts many gamblers, especially those who are fans of sports, as they are not just reliant on luck but also on their analysis. Of course, we can never say this will give us a lot of money, but at least it gives us a chance to win more than lose. If we are not greedy, I'm certain that many sports bettors can get a lot of money. Unfortunately, we usually get carried away with such greed, and instead of withdrawing our money, we continue gambling and lose it all.

That's true. It will be a lot of work but it can be fruitful. Researching the game + pure knowledge about it can really help us increase the chance of winning our bets instead of just betting blindly without even having any knowledge about the game itself. Almost all the records are already out on the internet from player stats to their status before the game. i.e. injuries.
When we use all that information that is scattered on the internet, we can actually try to predict the results of the game in almost the perfect direction. I mean, if the oddsmakers can do it, why not us? They seem to know how much the spreads that should be input or who is the favorite and they are also relying on stats just like us.

If betting is a skill, it would have make many gamblers a millionaire today, and many gamblers would have like to be using any amount of money to  gamble because they know they are going to win anytime they play. If you are skillful on a particular thing, you will not be afraid of losing because you have the skill to know the final result before the end of the betting.

I guess betting is a luck, what you are not expecting  from your betting can come to you to be happy or sad at the moment, which is the reason gamblers should gamble wisely for them not to be addicted to gambling.

Good research will increase the chances of winning, but in many cases, even after good research, it is not possible to win there. If you have to lose to a relatively weak team even if you are on top of the points table, then no matter how good the research is, it is not effective. That is why neither experience nor good research is effective if luck does not favor it properly. Luck should be given priority not only in sports betting but in any gambling. However, although research is effective in sports, in casino gambling you have to rely on luck.

Someone who have skill doesn't mean they will never make mistake, let's say in Mbappe in football, even though we know he's currently the best player, it doesn't mean if he play, he will at least score a goal.

We know Mbappe has a very good skill, far above than average football players, but there's always a luck will play. Like, the ball hit crossbar, woodwork, his teammates sucks, or the opponent goalkeeper is as good as him.

Thinking about the losses we have been making from gambling would only increase our emotions of becoming prone to gambling losses as time goes on. It is better we keep taking the usual risks that are necessary to keep trying our luck to make money from gambling.
Every gambler need to calm down and focus on doubling their portfolio and if the wirse comes, we can take a rest from gambling and put the effort in other things that can fetch us money. One you have other sources of income, you will not be always bothered about gambling losses because you have other sources of income.

Understand the system in question, what is the game system?
In sports betting, the most important thing is that we can know the development of each team as whole with the correct information such as who are the injured players or players who will play in the match, so that we can make predictions that are likely to win the bet.
In my opinion, sports betting is not like casino game that has working system that has been designed by the game provider, this will be purely how each team or player plays in match.

There is no possibility of winning in gambling depending on skill. If someone depends on luck, then he may be able to win. But my advice as a gambler is to gain skill. If someone gambles after observing well with his own skill, then he can win, but whatever we call skill or luck in gambling, we cannot be sure from any aspect that there is such an aspect in gambling where luck or skill is most effective. The gambler has to understand the situation and decide where skill is needed and where luck is needed. Although everyone will give priority to luck because without luck, the chances of winning in gambling are very low. Personally, I consider both luck and skill in my gambling, sometimes I get the opposite result and sometimes I win. This is natural in gambling.
 

If you believe in luck you ought to play casino games.
Sport betting is the only kind of gambling where you can decrease random. And you prefer to believe in luck - increasing random. It is silly as for me - to play predictable game and believe in luck the same time.
In sport betting the main problem is high quality analyze and discipline. You have to control your bets, odds, the size of bet, bankroll - it is serious job that common gambler don`t like. That`s why you don`t see millionaires around you.

The thing that comes to my mind when we think about defeat is the intention to pursue victory or recover losses which of course leads to one action, namely gambling continuously, and others as you said can make us depressed or stressed which will eventually affect our mental health sooner or later. It's really bad if we think too much about the defeat that occurs, as much as possible we must be able to accept the fact of defeat that occurs with the bets we make. Withdrawing can be done and is easy to do for those who do gamble wisely, but for those who have the goal of winning in gambling, withdrawing is a problem that is indeed difficult to do. I myself feel this every now and then where I can't pull myself out of gambling with a profit.

There are two basic ways to approach sports betting with skill.

Top down betting
Also known as "Steam Chasing". Finding the leading sportsbooks where very smart bettors bet and that move the market.
Betting at a sportsbook that is slow enough to change the odds and getting the odds before they move there. This also includes arbitrage, you basicly do the same thing as the arbitrage window is closed quickly.

Bottom up betting
Also known as "Originating" this means making your own odds using some kind of model based on data that you have collected. Then you compare the odds that you have created to the bookmakers odds and finding places where you get better odds than your model. This can also include elements of qualitive data which means watching teams, knowing about sithuations ect.

Sport betting is skill based, if you really want to win more than you lose then you have to know a lot of thing about that particular sport you always gamble and if you want to lose more than you win gamble base on luck, right now Liverpool are the strongest team right now in the English premier league and they are topping there league table with a very good point and the team following them in the back are arsenal and Liverpool is gapping arsenal with 13 point and we know how inconsistent arsenal is and how determine Liverpool is in lifting the premier league trophy and the league is coming to an end can you bet on arsenal in lifting the premier league title this season I believe you won't because that will result to a waste of funds, I'm just using this as an example to explain to you that if you gamble base on luck you will lose more, some people don't do research before they predict and place a bet because they believe gambling is base on luck, gambling is not base on luck is base on skill and research, there are teams that are stronger than the other and those stronger team wins the weaker one's 80% each time they meet so why will anyone say gambling is base on luck.

Yes but still not that easy for some gamblers who are that desperate to recover what they have lose while gambling, and if they can forget about their past history and focused on managing their current bankroll of course it would be more better than chasing after lose. Gambling is not something that you must have winning at all time because it's not certain so, when gambling they should try as much as possible to lower their expectations because when it ends up the other way round they could feel so disappointed and devastated.

You are right, the success in sports betting is not only based on one but on both factors (skill and luck) and without them both, a gambler will have a low win rate compare to someone that has a great skill in analysis for good prediction.

You have a good point about mental stability, which I like to encapsulate into a balanced gambling psychology. Well, it would have been fair and fitting when the context is different, but in the context like skills, the point on psychology is an extra that everyone needs. Because ordinarily, no one can succeed in any business without a good mental state, otherwise, such should be regarded as mad in the bsuiness.

I agree, and I think sports betting is one of those types of gambling where luck is minimized. I mean its influence on the outcome.
And this qualitatively distinguishes betting from some roulette, but at the same time makes it similar to card games, where a lot depends on the player's skill, and in betting a lot depends on the bettor's skill, if he knows about the team's condition, the results of previous matches and other statistical data.

In order to count on profit in gambling, you need to treat it as a job, and the attitude should be very serious, without the right to make a mistake or deviate from the rules. If you are going to rely only on luck, then it is better to treat gambling as entertainment and do not play for big money, and if you hope for profit, then you will have to devote a lot of attention, time and effort to it, and of course in this case, only your skill will matter.

if it were purely based on skill, there would be people who never lose and make a steady income from it. treating it like an e-sports game would be the wrong approach.

if it were purely luck-based, no one would be better than anyone else. experienced bettors wouldn’t have an advantage over beginners. that’s also not true.

sports betting is a mix of skill and luck. i’d say it’s about 60% skill and 40% luck. skill plays a bigger role, but luck can’t be ignored.

Sports bet requires skills because a gambler needs to have strategy to analyze games to increase his chances of winning but you cannot take away the place of luck to determine wins. What I can say is that skills are necessary for sports bet but it takes luck to win, this is so because sports are played by human beings and animals that can have good and bad days so previous performances is not a guarantee that they must perform excellently all the time. If you take away luck from sports bet that means that everybody will analyze correctly and they will always win, it won't be gambling anymore. I think that despite a gambler's skills to analyze games they should not underestimate luck so bettors should use amounts that they can afford to loose for their bets because skills are not enough to give wins.

Although luck still plays its role in sports betting but the gambler needs to be skilled enough to make possible prediction so that they don't just have to rely on luck which can never be in their favour because they didn't pick the appropriate game. Like you already said, knowing the right team to bet on and using the previous stats to analyze is the skill that a bettors can utilize to come up with more winning games.

Of course it is so. Gambling for profit is same with any other job. If you want to get good result you have to work hard. And there is no place for luck here. Yes if you`re lucky, you win rate will be higher, but anyway - even without luck, you win rate must be enough to get profit. It depends on your strategy and risk management. I`ve seen one gambler with win rate about 40%, but he bet only when odds were 4+ and it was enough.

There is no gambling that is purely based on skill because there is a luck factor that can also determine.
When betting or playing casino games such as card games that require skill, players can still lose, for example in sports betting because the team is playing badly or card games because they are betting on a tougher opponent.
For sports betting, we only predict even with data but it is not a guarantee of winning.
So I agree with you that skill and luck are two things in sports betting that exist together.

A lot of gamblers would also agree to this, sports betting is more better in terms of risk control than casino games but the real thing is people play casino games to get quick money, unlike sports betting these games are designed to payout within seconds when you get lucky. It doesn't require any form of skills, all you need is luck. People get addicted to casino games more because of how easy if is to make money from the.it forgetting that it's also easy to lose money too. sports betting on the other hand is very different, you might lose a few bets but with proper risk management and analysis your losses would be mitigated compared to losing money in casino games.

Good point, with balance mindset you'll be able to achieved such goals though it's tough since there's no guarantee but consistent and using knowledge and good understanding there's an edge for such gamblers who mostly used his expereinced and not being move by any types of emotion when still in session.

It's your discipline that play a big factor whenever you place your bet, the more you understand the game the more comfortable you are waiting for the outcome.

Losing constantly means you are doing something wrong but you must understand that skills doesn't really guarantee Profit in gambling, your predictions and analysis might be on point but there are some things that might affect the game from going in the predicted direction, this doesn't mean your analysis was poor it's just how the game is.  Being familiar with the sports you are betting on doesn't really matter sometimes, in sports betting a lot of unexpected events happens. It's just like the match between arsenal and Westham, with the way arsenal has been performing the odds were in favour of them to win and a lot of people staked on them to probably win or score a goal but the opposite happened. Skills are important but it's not everything.

Basically the truth, but I will always advice people to channel all of this energy into doing something with a better financial guarantee than channeling all of this effort into gambling where there are no guarantees of any kind regardless of how much knowledge and stable mindset a person possess.

There is a purpose to which gambling is and was introduced, and who ever is not gambling for that very purpose is already gambling amiss regardless of the state of their mindset, there is no two ways about this, treat gambling for what it is and treat a real business as a business, instead of spending time studying how to be successful in betting, why not spend that same time studying how to be successful in a business where there is a far better financial guarantee than in gambling.? 😁

...and you are doing the right with that advice, anything that is not guaranteed means no certainty, so such should be engaged cautiously, especially if money is involved and it's addictive. I've never seen gambling as a means to make money the way some people gullibly see it, and again, I see it beyond the fun that many people pretend it to be. We should balance this, but in a way that will not affect our responsible gambling which is the ultimate at the end of the day. But if it is money you need, get it elsewhere, or else, gambling might put you in trouble.

A few formations might be helpful to recover loss or to earn a good amount of money which is for a short period of time but in the long run that will turn into loss and any time of formation will lead to a higher loss. So, it all depends on luck instead of any type of skill or formation.

A lot depends on the player's skill in both sports betting and card games, but skill cannot always guarantee you success all the time. There are times when you will show your best and still end up not winning, which is where they say luck comes into play, but luck is not the major factor that determines if you will win or lose. The skill, or the strategy, as some will prefer to call it, that the player uses is what will help increase the chance of winning, while luck does little to improve that winning.

Yes, my friend, I completely agree with every word you say and I want to add that in fact it is obviously not very cool to do something where luck will have a very significant influence on the result.

Therefore, it seems to me that it is always better to choose those disciplines of science or body where luck will be reduced to a minimum, and the result will depend so much on the efforts of the person who is trying to achieve something in this matter.

Of course, I would like to say that luck also plays a big role in cryptocurrencies, but everything is so promising and interesting here that the game is worth it.

To count on earnings in gambling, you need to rely only on your skill, luck is a fickle thing, today you are lucky and tomorrow you are not. And to start earning in gambling, you need to be a smart player and have a lot of experience. On the other hand, I see that there are players who play for a very long time, maybe 5 years or even more, and they still play with a loss, so I think that not everyone is given the opportunity to earn in gambling.

Skill and experience can help about how to be a winner but it can't make the winner finally as it depends on several factors which are not related with to being a winner. But as a skilled person, the skilled person may not lose occasionally and might be a winner multiple times that doesn't mean all the time s/he will be a winner if it could be that gambling site would be a loser and all the money might be to the person who is skilled and experienced.

You are absolutely right that is the simple truth about it, because gambling is more of luck, there is nothing like skill when it comes to gambling, it's totally a game of luck. There is nothing like profession in gambling, because though even if you do research continuously, it can never brings winnings to you. However, just like as you mentioned I think it's quite difficult to predict what would happen in the future, so that it how it is in gambling.

I don't mean to be a persimmist but I don't really think there's a formula to make consistent profit in sports betting, I'm not disputing the fact that strategy doesn't work but there are no hacks to make Profit constantly. If you are the type of gambler that does proper analysis then there's a high chance of making profit 60 percent of time you place you bets. Sports betting is all about skill but there's a little percentage of luck involved, you can do your analysis but there might be some unplanned things that can affect the outcome of the prediction, that's just how it is.

You are right, luck can be said to be limited in sports betting but in slot gambling skill doesn't count but rather everything is based on luck. In sport, you will hav to be skilled in making predictions because even if you were supposed to be lucky in your bet you can still lose because you didn't take time to make a good analysis to come up with good prediction.

Sometimes especially in uncertain events like sports luck can play a big role a game can never be completely predicted because players play in changing conditions so it is important for sports betting to have good statistics analysis of teams and players knowledge of past performances strategic thinking and other factors. Sometimes it depends on knowing the details of the sport such as how a team plays what is the recent form of a player and other important aspects. Based on skill one can choose or determine to some extent which bet is more likely.

I would say that sports betting is mainly based on skill. If you think that sports betting is based on luck, then it is a bit questionable because if you have a good understanding of sports and experience, then you can win a lot from your experience. You may not be very experienced in sports, which is why you are relying on luck in sports betting. Since you have not been able to win in five years, you should stop gambling because sports betting should never be based on luck.

In Gambling your success depends on your luck and not your skills. Even if you have enough knowledge on a particular sports doesn't mean you will get it right at most games you bets on,it's all luck. If you think experience is enough to get you a win,then why are most experience gamblers still experiencing more looses than wins in bets, because in gambling they're is no guarantee even if you're the most experienced gambler so far,your success on a particular bets depends on your luck.

In sports betting skills is not a guarantee but it can help to avoid losing a lot and to have that chance to win, if you have a good skills in terms of limiting yourself and following whatever your set up limitation, it can possibly generates something decent, though it's still more on luck as you are in gambling but if you can find ways to have some edge and have a good ideas and basis before placing your bets.

It gives you confidence while waiting for the outcome, you can just sit and relax believing that you already done dealing with your results.

In sports betting, and in general in any betting (even if we take political or economic predictions) it is very difficult to achieve mastery. And this mastery must necessarily include many interesting points, such as a good knowledge of the chosen field of sport, careful selection of bookmaker odds and conducting your own deep analytical work on predicting the results of sports games. I once watched a video of a sports betting blogger.
He said that it is necessary to get rid of the illusion that it is possible to qualitatively predict the results of sports matches without computerized processing of large amounts of information. I do not think that most players do this. Many make more or less chaotic bets.

The main advantage of sports betting is that you can apply some analysis at the time that you would really be doing it on which in compared to when you do make out some pure gambling casino on which we know that this will really be that basically relying with luck. You can actually made out some comparison and even just using up your own common sense then you will be able to find yourself having that main difference in between. So it will really be that up to you on which one you would really be that engaging into. It all matters about preference and liking.

Just make it sure that you will really be that sticking into the sports on which you are really that knowledgeable about. There are some bettors who do skip and make out some betting into sports on which they dont even know on which it doesnt really make sense when it comes into this aspect because dealing up with something that you dont even know the sport will really be just that basically wasting up some money.

If success in sports betting depends on computer processing of information, then ordinary players do not have much chance.

Firstly, they will have to compete with large analytical teams that use the most powerful and fastest computers.

Secondly, they will have to compete with artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is constantly improving. Almost every month, new versions of language models are released. At the same time, artificial intelligence significantly surpasses humans in all tasks related to computer processing of information. Therefore, for the average player, in my opinion, sports betting can be considered a game of chance that is completely based on luck.

An exception can be considered the case when this average player has insider information about a sporting event. Such situations also happen and in this case the player really has an undeniable competitive advantage that can ensure him a win in gambling.

IMO, winning and making profit in sports betting is more of skill-based rather than luck. Though there is always an element of luck when you try to place a bet in any form of gambling. However, sports betting requires knowledge, know-how, familiarity of which sports you laid your interest in, and of course the odd & match-up analysis, which plays a vital role in determining your chances of winning.
When someone is placing bets mindlessly and were able to come up winning, then that's what you call a pure luck. I don't believe a lot of sports bettors are actually doing it. Because most of us would analyze the odd vs the match-up before placing bets.

This is correct, luck plays the final card in determining your win or loss. Even with a number of reasons why one can win a game, a simple reason might come in and make the game a loss for the gambler.

Also evidenced by the fact that most sports bettors also face losses and they eventually move away from sports betting to just writing books and doing podcasts with selling merch and so on.

What I am trying to say is that even seasoned sport bettors understand this reality and thus they try to find alternative methods to make money while getting paid from affiliate links.

Winning in gambling is luck because gambling can't be predicted, experience in gambling have nothing to do with winning.  If experience determines winning in gambling then I think all experience gamblers should be making good amount of money in gambling.  The only role experience has to do gambling is for gamblers to learn from their gambling experience to gambling right with the money and time factor in gambling but as for winning it is just based on luck.

Skills and experience really matter in sport betting. Although an element of luck is also included to here. This is because sometimes a team that suppose to win on paper may disappoint and lose. So if you mainly play parley, then luck may still be consider here.

You are very wrong about this. Fine, luck plays a huge role in gambling, but this doesn't have the final say in all aspects of it. Are you telling me that it's all about 100% luck in Sports betting, Poker, Chess etc? If you said so, then you are only deceiving yourself. The more you know how to analyze/play those games, the better for you, as it will increase your chances of winning rather than believing that it must all be based on luck.

As far as I understand the role of luck in sports betting depends on what strategy the bettor follows. For example, if a bettor makes only one bet, then luck plays a rather high role - about 50-70%. If the bettor adheres to a systematic approach and in the long term makes a large number of bets, the role of luck is significantly reduced. This is what professional bettors and gamblers do. Therefore, each of us independently determine the role of luck in sports betting through their risk management, analytics and discipline.

Personally, I think it's both luck and skill. They both play crucial roles in your bets and also work hand in hand.  Developing your gambling skill is good but to some extent your experience would still determine how you will place your bets to give you a better chance of winning. If you still aren't lucky, no matter how good you might have arranged your games to be, you will still end up losing. sometimes when you watch sport, you hope that they win and then very close to the end of the game your bet gets ruin. That just because you were unlucky, at that point, your skill isn't going to help.

Whether you play sports betting or general gambling, both are based on luck. In my opinion, gambling is a game based on luck.

However, in sports betting, you are likely to win comparatively more by using your skills.

Suppose you know a player very well. You know that he performs very well in the first match. Does that mean that he will perform the same in the next match as well.

So I can strongly say that in sports betting you have to rely on luck.

Skills over luck, sports betting requires a certain level of research and analysis, they won't always work but you are definitely going to make more profits than losses overtime if you are a strategic gambler.. always being lucky reliant means that you are ready to accept any outcome that comes.. strategies work Only when we apply them correctly but no strategy is a hundred percent, If they are well structured they can always have a high chance of playing out but don't always expect a good result everytime

I would argue that it is a mixed of both.

It is considered skill based due to the number of factors that are involved. For example, if a certain team is against a weaker team, you should still consider injuries, winning streaks, etc. that can help you arrive at your decision. Just because the weaker team is on a losing streak does not guarantee that it will lose all of its game. A weaker team could also perform well versus a stronger team depending on the match-ups, etc.

On the other hand, I also consider it as luck based because even if you consider all the factors above, there is still that element of luck that can surprise and caught anyone off-guard. One example here would be the 2016 NBA Finals between the GSW vs Heat. GSW was leading 3-1 in the playoffs and in the entire history of NBA, there is no team that ever recovered from that score. Heat defied the odds and won the playoffs by 3-4.

In conclusion, I would argue that sports-betting involves a mixed of both skill and luck based. A person who wants to try sports betting must do their respective research to weigh all pros and cons in order to have an advantage over the others.

You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

When I was a beginner, luck played a bigger role because I wasn't very familiar with the rules of the game. Gradually, as I gained experience, I was able to analyze the team's performance and predict the match results.

Sports bet have an advantage over slots and other casino games, that's data analysis but still, the end result relies heavily on how the team will perform, meaning your hope and prediction depends if the team performs as you predicted, what does this tell you? That even with skills you are still at the mercy of luck.

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Have you ever seen someone who isn't even into watching sports matches that much and still win big with sport match? Because I have, this person have no knowledge and he doesn't follow news and everything happening but he won big one time like that, this finalize my though about sports matches, that it is completely based on luck.

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This is why you will see a small football club winning a might well known football team, this things happens, just like in those UFC sports, you can't always win every time even if you are the strongest, one day someone might just knock you out.

For me, playing for the entire allowed deposit is not even a game of luck, it is an inevitable loss in the next few bets. Even if you are lucky in the first bet, then in the next ones everything will end in defeat, otherwise it does not work. In gambling, only what you listed above will work, smart deposit management, risk management is what can easily get you through even a few losses and your deposit will be fine. So in gambling you should rely only on skill and in no case only on luck.

Well, some crazy people still do that, and what do you expect? They are expecting luck to take effect. If not, why would a sane person risk all his money at once without any regard to the money/risk management plan? That's irresponsible gambling, and it hurts the most if the money is lost. Still, it works for some people, and they get to make more money with such a high risk. This is what's emboldening others to try that, but I tell you, in most cases, it will amount to losses.

Those who always gamble with high risks, they always face high losses, no gambler's luck will always be good, they may win twice, but the third time they will definitely lose. So gambling with high risks is never rational, it will lead a gambler to huge losses in all aspects. First, if they get a lucky win with high risks at once time, then they become more confident, and later they gamble with more risks, which gradually leads them to bigger losses, Because they will never get this kind of win consistently. So gambling with high risks by engaging in such unnecessary thoughts, will only cause losses, so one must try to understand the right thing, and gamble by maintaining the right rules and restrictions.

Potential loses or in amount could be always a definite thing on which there's no way that we can limit it out since different persons are on the different approach in between. Regrets do always come at the end and since we are that still prone to gambling then the primary thing that comes up into our mind is on how to make money with it without even thinking up the risks involved. Sports betting is skill based since this will be needing up that kind of analysis on which that be coming from the teams/players that you are about to make bets on. Its an important factor since it do adds up the odds on winning up the bets but of course everything that still depending or basing up with luck too because even on how well your analysis would be but if luck isnt on your side then you will still definitely lose up. So better be wary on how reality works so that you wont be ending up on having those disappointment and frustration.

Exactly, that is something I would not do, when things are like that they cannot be considered good, as you have said, playing like that in a crazy and irresponsible way most of the time things do not turn out well, it is better to be safe than sorry and even more so when it is about money, I would not do it, the truth is I am very careful with my money, I only allow myself to risk what I am willing to lose.

Perfectly explained, the role that luck has to play cannot be neglected, there's always a little bit of luck involved in skilled based games but just like you said if it was totally based on luck then there would be no experts. Everyone would be able to make profit whenever they like if skills were not involved in it, sports betting is totally different from casino games, your profit is based on the knowledge and information you have acquired. But relying totally on skill can be deceiving.

luck is the main reason why gambling is still surviving because all winning in gambling comes via luck I don't believe that there is skill in gambling because it doesn't work, gambling is purely a game based on chance so I don't agree that gambling is skilled based because when it comes to gambling it's not in our place to control what happens



Skill doesn't work in gambling and should not be confused with luck or chance what plenty people has mistaken as skill in gambling is not even skill but luck unknownly to them if your prediction of about Five teams that you placed bet on surprising comes true that is not skill but luck

I can agree when you are talking about casino games - random games, unpredictable games. The main luck here is to win big prize and go away.
But sport betting is predictable gambling. You can`t win all bets, but you can win enough for profit. If you are good in analyze, risk management, money management and ready to work hard.

Gambling is all about luck, but in sports betting, skill also plays a role. When you have a lot of knowledge about the clubs and players, you can make more likely predictions. Because most of the time, good players win matches. Because they know different techniques due to which they are able to fool the players of their opposing team and score goals. So sports betting cannot be called a completely luck-based game, here both luck and skill work very well. You can't ignore the importance of any of this.

 Casino games are programmed for the gamblers to lose that's why people call it a rigged game. Roulette, slots, crash and cards can't be won using skills because there are no patterns that needs to be studied. Sports betting on the other hand is quite different just as you explained luck is minimized, winning most times is based on how good you are with prediciting but a small percentage of luck is Also involved. Statistical data can't work everytime so don't get too confident

Yeah after bagging big wins then quit out and enjoy your profits, it's not as usual that you'll going to win with luck base gambling and those who are good and wise with self-control no need to keep pushing for more if you got lucky and got decent amount of winnings, and yes, with sports betting there are chance that you may provide good analysis with the game that you are supporting and you may able to predict the possible outcome, but like what you said, not always a guarantee but if you focus yourself into it there's a chance that you may predict more winnngs compared to those you'll need to let go once you lose your bets.

Skill and luck does play a part, yeah.

— Skill: if you can do the analysis and know what events will likely happens as you predict them because at the end of the day, it's all about predictions. You can use skills to fine tune it and make better predictions.

— Luck: skill is just one side of the coin because you might make all your analysis and make the best picks but what if chosen player is injured early on? Or something happens that changes the course of the game? This makes luck a crucial piece of the puzzle.

You can only make your predictions and hope that the odds end up in your favour.

Bottomline, sportsbetting is both - requires skills as well as luck. But you can increase your chance of winning if you know the sports that you are betting with. Thus, having knowledge about the sports is a good advantage.
This is why, sportsbetting and poker are just few gambling games that require skill to have an edge of your game. If you will explore these aspects of gambling and hone your knowledge and skills, you will have better chance of winning.

Basically, skills are indeed quite an important part when you are involved in sports betting, but don't we sometimes still like to lose? Well, you have experienced and proven it OP, you still often lose even though you have applied the skills you have.

From another perspective, as we know, it is not uncommon for a team that is more favored to lose to a weaker team even though they are playing at home, which means that in my opinion sports betting depends on two things, namely skill and luck, skill helps in making decisions and luck helps in determining whether you win or vice versa.

You can know your sport and still not win if its not your lucky day. For instance, Real Madrid got eliminated by a team that has never won the UCL title before and everyone who knows the UCL know that Real Madrid dominates it no matter what and they can do comeback, you can use that knowledge of the sports and back them and get rekt this week.

What if there's a red card? 2? Player gets injured? All depends as well. You can only predict and hope for a win.

Then the same can be said about any kind of gambling, where luck does not have the only dominant position. This does not apply to black-red or slots, in this kind of gambling luck and only it decides whether the player will win or not. But if we take poker as an example, then in it it is also quite possible to divide the outcome of the game into, as you said: luck and skill. Nevertheless, their influence is not 50 to 50. I would say whose luck plays a generally small role, maybe 30 percent. Because a good analyst can quite well predict outcomes with a probability of 50-70 percent.

The main thing that we have to think about is that gambling is not a way to get easy money. It is possible, to catch big prize, but if you plan to continue gambling you have to choose one of two ways - play for fun - sometimes lose, sometimes win, small sums both times. Or you can to play for profit - here you have lots of problems, and luck is the smallest of it.
But the biggest plus of the gambling, that it is possible to get profit from gambling using your skills. Not for all, but possible.

There is no such precision, no sport or game of chance where luck plays such a small role. Take regular sports and their analytics. Football? There are two teams, 22 people playing, and absolutely anything can happen to them that can affect the outcome of the game. Bquetball, hockey? Same thing. Individual sports like tennis, running and so on - same thing, anything can happen to an athlete in the course of a game that will significantly affect it, and from that point on, everything that the analyst thought about before, looking at the previous stats, means nothing. You can look at a statistic that has been linked to a particular athlete for a long time (only in this case) and bet on certain events, realising that your risk is about the same as an unlucky event in that statistic, but even here luck plays a huge part

As for luck, the probability will always be against you, and most likely it is not even 50/50, but even lower, because the probabilities will be on the casino's side and you will be subject to emotions and this will play against you. You should always rely only on skill, and you also need to play only those games where you can use your skill, these are not slots, but for example betting, where you choose the bet yourself. And in slots you need to be immediately prepared that you will spend more before you get lucky.

Just like others say, sports betting is skill-based, but to say it is reliant on or purely based on skills is not true. After all, it is gambling. You still need luck, and luck will always play a role no matter what kind of gambling it is. If it's just purely based on skills, then those who are buying picks from those analysts should have made a lot by now, especially those analysts. Or they would have an almost perfect record, but it's not. An underdog, be it a team or a player, could still possibly upset their opponent.

luck is the most important fact when it comes to gambling and not skill I have not really seen any gambler who has been able to come up with a universally acceptable formula that helps in winning in gambling so if that is not possible then gambling and skill has nothing in common and so gambling is more of luck


Infact I am of the opinion that winning in gambling is solely from luck because no matter how one is skillful in gambling the factor of luck can't be put aside because winning on gambling is not something that is easy to come by as you will need luck and win in gambling this is the reason why many people are of the view that gambling should not be taken serious

I agree that sports betting requires specific skills, it can be categorized as skill-based games. However, it is true that we can't avoid the luck factor in sports betting. Yep, sometimes the results of the matches can be surprising, it is beyond of our analysis. For example in football matches, we often saw smaller teams can beat stronger teams. Also the teams with good performance recently can be defeated by the teams with bad performance in this season. It is something usual in football matches, I'm very sure that this also happens in other field of sports. Because of this, we can't totally say that sports betting purely rely on the skills. It surely needs both skills and luck!

When you only rely on luck you will just keep wasting money. I think we need both. This means that we need a statistical analysis of players or predictions to decide what actions to take. You must also use that, I'm sure everyone who bets on the ball will do an analysis to place bets. After the analysis, the next process is to hope for the luck of the analysis that we have done.

Gamblers that rely only on luck gamble for entertainment purposes unlike those that always take notes of statistical data. Although gamblers that analyze also depend on luck sometimes because research can't always give you a hundred percent accuracy. It's logically right to say that those who do proper analysis aim to make profit and gamblers that always rely on luck are ready to accept whatever outcomes that comes. I like the idea of strategic gambling but sometimes I think it's very exhausting.

You're right, the game is so broad that it can be developed by applying Strategies , Tactics, some things that we can give it , but in itself what we need to know is that luck is what really moves it , so when we play poker, luck is needed to be successful, except for sports betting where you can Win by knowing, a little more strategic and predictive knowledge is Applied.

You are not wrong but applying some strategies on your sport bet games will not make you to win your sport bet. However, what is really necessary to win during gambling is actually the luck aspect because without it there's no damn thing a gambler could do that will make them win. Am saying this because sometimes we spend a lot of time trying to figure out good strategies for sport bets but after all, we still lose the bet.

Luck is always what is needed to win in any game, although strategic approach can increase your chances of luck to be pronounced, but not in all games, poker is pourly luck based and for sure, alot of us have known that fact, but in games like sport most expecially football alot of analysis go into it and you can at least arrive at a near winning predictions.

In football, you can make a possible prediction that when two teams play against each other, which team is more likely to win can be understood by looking at their performance. However, this cannot be guaranteed because many times it is seen that despite a good team performing very well, it falls behind at the last minute for some reason and loses the match. And then you will definitely lose your bet. So sports betting cannot be called a completely skill-based gambling. Luck is definitely very important here. However, since there are many things that can be predicted here, it cannot be said that it is completely luck-based. Both luck and skill are required for sports betting.

It's very difficult to say sports betting is completely based on skill, of course because I think luck also plays an important role. A combination of the two would be something good and seem more reasonable, that's because we never know what will be the outcome of each match. Even if a team is truly a favorite, our bets may still be wrong because they draw or lose unexpectedly.

I don't understand why OP only gave two options in voting, there should be a combination of luck and skill. Both are needed in every bet, it is really impossible to separate one of them in my opinion.

Sports betting can't be solely because of your skills neither is it solely of luck. It is just like a coin with both sides. You need skills in terms of analysing the various teams capabilities judging based on previous match experiences, the abilities of the players as well as the number of good players in the team. All these and many more needs skills to predict or work with. On the other hand luck could also come in. In the sense that someone can do all the predictions with his good predicting skills and the table would still turn the other way around for him. Luck could shine on the less powerful team and they become winners for the day. In essence both luck and skills is needed and will be appreciated at a pont

You've been on track for five whole years and you think somehow, you don't still have the skills good enough to win and make profit? You know how long we're talking about here? That's almost forever dude... Lmao!
Joking apart, this doesn't feel right. What then do you consider as your primary experience in sport betting ever since you started your journey? Losses upon losses? How have you been able to retain since then?

In the pool, we have more people voting on skills, but primarily like you said, luck has it.

That's also is my thought in the personal point of view, but I am getting surprise that in the poll there is more vote for that sports bet is skill based.
Even it is true that for doing a good analysis on sports betting a person must should be well known about that is sports and as well that rules of that sports and also the team and the players and then he  will be able to made good prediction and here we were assuming that these are his skills but we have to also remember that these skill would going to be able to success only when the luck will favour to us. Otherwise, we also see multiple matches in many days that the strongest team losing against weastest team.

I agree with you that sports betting is a combination of skill and luck. I have also been betting on sports for a few years now and I still haven't had much success... maybe it's because I'm a very fearful bettor, I don't take many risks and consequently I miss out on many opportunities, but I also play for fun and not for money, so I feel better this way than taking more risks and losing money that I shouldn't.

But back to your question... of course luck plays an important role in the outcome of sporting events, but it is also essential to have a good understanding of the sports, teams and players to make informed decisions, managing your bankroll, setting limits and avoiding impulsive bets is also crucial to long-term success.

In my opinion, success in sports betting depends on a combination of skill, analysis and luck and it is important to have a dose of luck for things to go your way, but it is also essential to develop skills and strategies that increase the chances of success.

With time and experience, it is possible to develop skills and strategies that increase the chances of success, but it is also important to recognize that luck will always be present... I think the difference really lies in how much we are willing to risk, because those who risk more have a greater chance of winning, but doing so in a conscious and intelligent way is for the few.

There is a criterion that I take as a basis to make a sports bet, and that is if I have doubts regarding a prediction or a bet I prefer not to make it, but if I am completely sure that I will have a high possibility of winning then I do it, the reason is simple, sometimes in sports extraordinary events occur that we call luck, but it is on few occasions, but it is present, but in itself what is known, the research and the technical elements are a guarantee that you will win.

As sport bettors, we all have our criterias and we try as much as possible to follow that criteria as much as we can and this is the reason why we see that sport bet at least have higher percentage of winners compared to other games that their data and statistics are not available for public analysis before bettors stake on them or engage with those games, and that is the reason, there is high loses in those games and that were luck based comes in, but when we talking about sports betting, there are always a chance that your skills and analysis will increase your winnings potential almost %50 at some point.

First of all, it should be remembered that gambling cannot be considered a means of earning money. Gambling should always be considered as entertainment. However, betting on sports and winning is not based on luck, it depends on skill and strategy. If a person understands sports very well and can analyze sports well, then that person can bet on sports and win a lot. You have been betting on sports for five years and are not able to win. I would say that you do not have much experience in sports and do not have strategy. You are not able to analyze well, which is why you are not able to win from betting on sports. I bet on sports and because I have a little better analysis and skill about sports, I can win in sports betting. My losses are very small.

Yea, upset may happen and those who managed to bet in the right timing they may able to enjoy that huge amount of profits, though not always and in a usual way the chance or the edge of those heavy favorites will take place, just deal with your research and put your bet where you think winning may have a better weigth to take place, afterall there's assurance and it's always with your good decision making that important, there's always a win and lose as you are inside gambling no guarantee at all.

You are undoubtedly right in your opinion and I support your opinion 100%. The most important thing in sports betting is to use your skills and have an idea about the sport. In sports, you can get an idea about which team is more likely to win or which team is more likely to lose, but based on your skills and experience.
Now if I have enough knowledge about different sports, then when a game is held between two opponents, then considering the two opponents, we can put one team ahead, this is the use of my skills. But if I do not have an idea about all these things and bet on any team depending on luck and if the team I bet on is relatively weak, then I will lose in that bet. So we have to get out of depending on luck and develop our own skills and try to get a more adequate idea about sports.

Almost always this happens, the one who hopes for luck will lose money, and even if you are lucky enough to win several times, then in the long game you will still lose everything you managed to win. Rarely does anyone manage to just stop when he is lucky to win for the first time, then a feeling of euphoria appears and the player will believe that he can be lucky again. In betting, you also need luck, but in addition to this, experience is also very important, in order to successfully place bets you need to be well acquainted with the championships and teams.

Something that I have always done is that when I make a bet I have my decision-making power very clear, that is to say, I am a very confident person in these acts because I trust in what I know and in the analysis that I do when it comes to it, I mostly bet on Football, and in the case that I lose it is something that I accept, but even so it is a fortuitous event that leaves me with a loss of money , but even so I do not Regret what I bet, there is no type of retraction on my part , that is why security with money is key for Everything.

When dealing up with something on which you can be able to apply specially on sports betting like having some analysis then it will be always relevant into this aspect. We do know that on the moment that you do able to find yourself that making up some choosing on which team/player will be that winning a match will be having that corresponding analysis into it because if you do just blindly making up some bets or choices then its just that pure gambling at all and you dont even know on whose gonna win because you do made out some random choice on whereas you can actually make out some analysis too.

On the moment that you've been that doing up some random approach towards sports betting then sooner or later you do able to find out on what are the main things that you do need up
at the time that you do made out such engagement into it. So be wary into it and realize that it is analysis applicable and not just basing with pure luck like in casino games.

In betting skill and luck work hand in hand, that's why some people are better than some because of the level of experience which develops the skill, if not how can you define the fact that some people are better than some, will you say its luck? I doubt its skill out of experience that differentiates them, as long as your consistent and observe your mistakes well there will certainly be a difference.
although luck is the major reason for reward but skill and experience also follows.   

I think perspective works a lot here cause we all have different ideas based on how we go about it, just like you said sports betting is skill based amd that's based on your idelogo or experience but then on my side I can take it to be luck based game cause usually my chances of winning ain't bent on my skills but the fact that I tend to be lucky. But regardless sports betting it's both luckbased and skill based and that's because  they work hand in hand to guarantee you a win.

You are right because in gambling both luck and experience are needed because many times it is seen that even after a lot of good analysis you have to lose. In gambling, you cannot win only with experience, of course there is some influence of luck to win there. Except for sports bets, unique games like slots, spins, dices etc. are completely luck games. Here you can play with experience but experience will not help you win. Of course luck will be needed here because all these games are completely luck-based. No matter what people say that gambling is a game of experience and skill, but I will say that gambling requires both experience, skill and luck.

When you rely only on luck, you might be losing money; that's correct. But you might also be lucky to win money, but you might proceed with caution, not like you will proceed with little confidence when you are gambling with skill and stake in more money than you will stake when you are gambling only based on luck.

Better than being controlled by emotion, after losing just turnaround and moveaway, you are done for your days session and there's always another day for you to find luck, it's not a guarantee even how good you think you are knowing the game that you are betting, there's upset that can still happen along the way.

What is best is you know how you accept the outcome and you have that good control over yourself as it's a good tool to prevent you from getting aggriviated and start chasing your losses.

Stopping in time and coming back the next day also speaks about your skill. If a player knows himself well, knows his habits, then he will act more carefully than a player who is subject to emotions. If I wanted to make several bets today, then I know that I will make only them, and in case of a loss I will not rush to make some bets that I did not plan to make, because I know what this can lead to. In such a case, you should not hope for luck, it was just an unlucky day, I will better come back tomorrow or in a few days, when there is a good match.

In sports bet we need both skills and luck to be profitable because sports is not like other casino games that totally rely on luck to win, sports involve players and teams that have perticular styles of play. It doesn't make much sense to only rely on luck when it comes to sports, you need to analyze the past performances of the teams and players that you want to bet in, it will increase your chances of winning. When you analyze games before betting on them it will give you the satisfaction that you have done your own part and you can leave the rest to luck.

Every thing about gambling revolves around luck, and this does not matter whether the game we are playing is a skill based game, or knowledge based game, or pure luck based game or what ever, every gambling game any of this mentioned categories still have luck as a deciding factor that tells whether the player will win or lose.
So luck is like Nature, it a natural part and deciding factor in gambling which we as gamblers have no power (whatsoever) over, we can not decide when to let luck play a role in our gambling activities, it's always there whether we like it or not..

And to cap it up, our analysis, strategy and other vices and means we implore to make our winning easier and more guaranteed doesn't stop luck from operating, and this is because even in the midst of our analysis and strategies, we can still lose any game if luck isn't around to help us win..

I am not a person who gambles for God's sake, but i play poker and follow poker as a hobby.
The characteristics that make a strong poker player are essentially three if we want, patience, resistance and luck.
You can have all the strategies but if you don't get the right cards, there's little you can do!
Also, it usually takes many hours to play, so if you are not patient and get tired easily, this is not the game for you.

Wise decision indeed, as if you push your way the chance to keep losing more is not by far, most of the time those who over-exceed from their suppose limitation regrets their decision, as even how good your knowledge about the game if emotion dominates you it surely lead you to a bad decision making. That's why it's always best to keep that limitation and make that hard stop when you already reached your set targets.

I also came to the conclusion that you need to stop in time, if you have lost all the bets you have made, then it is better to stop, I know that it is not easy, that you want to continue, because you feel bad from losing and you want to win back as quickly as possible, but it is better to calm down and take a break. Then you will have more chances to win when you return in a calm state than if you continue. And you do not need to rely on luck, just luck without skill is not enough for success in gambling.

It can be both, that's right. It's skill-based because sometimes we do win based on our own prediction and analysis of the possible results of the game. That means we are already expecting that to happen, which is why we bet on that. Now, there are times when a game won't go the flow that we wanted, and there are instances where we could still win our bets even if it didn't go our way initially. Examples of this are buzzer beaters and a comeback from a short period of time for the team we are betting for.

Luck will play a role, but we should not expect it will always happen to us. So, it's best if we can still analyze the game first, and the luck factor will be a bonus.

The biggest responsibility of a gambler is to stop in right time, many people take more risks in order to recover their losses immediately when they lose, but at that time, instead of recovering their losses, their losses become more more deeper, a simple reason for this is that at that time, their losing streak is going on, so the more they continue to gamble at that time, the more their losses will increase. So there is no other option, to stop at that time.

I think that luck in a sports bet comes in when you predict that in the minute there will be a foul, or team X will have so many fouls, that if the score will be x to xy, something like that, but in itself the fact of predicting if there will be a winner or a tie is where the performance of a sports bettor is really measured, I don't think there is luck there but rather what you know, we all know that in sports betting the details that we put and are given will win more, but it is more given to luck in that very specific aspect.