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Question: Sports betting, is it skilled based or luck based?
Skilled based - 31 (75.6%)
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March 23, 2025, 03:39:32 AM
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Sometimes especially in uncertain events like sports luck can play a big role a game can never be completely predicted because players play in changing conditions so it is important for sports betting to have good statistics analysis of teams and players knowledge of past performances strategic thinking and other factors. Sometimes it depends on knowing the details of the sport such as how a team plays what is the recent form of a player and other important aspects. Based on skill one can choose or determine to some extent which bet is more likely.
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March 23, 2025, 03:46:53 AM
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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?
I would say that sports betting is mainly based on skill. If you think that sports betting is based on luck, then it is a bit questionable because if you have a good understanding of sports and experience, then you can win a lot from your experience. You may not be very experienced in sports, which is why you are relying on luck in sports betting. Since you have not been able to win in five years, you should stop gambling because sports betting should never be based on luck.

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March 23, 2025, 01:01:54 PM
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In Gambling your success depends on your luck and not your skills. Even if you have enough knowledge on a particular sports doesn't mean you will get it right at most games you bets on,it's all luck. If you think experience is enough to get you a win,then why are most experience gamblers still experiencing more looses than wins in bets, because in gambling they're is no guarantee even if you're the most experienced gambler so far,your success on a particular bets depends on your luck.

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March 23, 2025, 07:29:45 PM
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I agree, and I think sports betting is one of those types of gambling where luck is minimized. I mean its influence on the outcome.
And this qualitatively distinguishes betting from some roulette, but at the same time makes it similar to card games, where a lot depends on the player's skill, and in betting a lot depends on the bettor's skill, if he knows about the team's condition, the results of previous matches and other statistical data.

You are right, luck can be said to be limited in sports betting but in slot gambling skill doesn't count but rather everything is based on luck. In sport, you will hav to be skilled in making predictions because even if you were supposed to be lucky in your bet you can still lose because you didn't take time to make a good analysis to come up with good prediction.

In sports betting skills is not a guarantee but it can help to avoid losing a lot and to have that chance to win, if you have a good skills in terms of limiting yourself and following whatever your set up limitation, it can possibly generates something decent, though it's still more on luck as you are in gambling but if you can find ways to have some edge and have a good ideas and basis before placing your bets.

It gives you confidence while waiting for the outcome, you can just sit and relax believing that you already done dealing with your results.

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In sports betting, and in general in any betting (even if we take political or economic predictions) it is very difficult to achieve mastery. And this mastery must necessarily include many interesting points, such as a good knowledge of the chosen field of sport, careful selection of bookmaker odds and conducting your own deep analytical work on predicting the results of sports games. I once watched a video of a sports betting blogger.
He said that it is necessary to get rid of the illusion that it is possible to qualitatively predict the results of sports matches without computerized processing of large amounts of information. I do not think that most players do this. Many make more or less chaotic bets.

 
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March 25, 2025, 11:10:45 AM
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I agree, and I think sports betting is one of those types of gambling where luck is minimized. I mean its influence on the outcome.
And this qualitatively distinguishes betting from some roulette, but at the same time makes it similar to card games, where a lot depends on the player's skill, and in betting a lot depends on the bettor's skill, if he knows about the team's condition, the results of previous matches and other statistical data.

You are right, luck can be said to be limited in sports betting but in slot gambling skill doesn't count but rather everything is based on luck. In sport, you will hav to be skilled in making predictions because even if you were supposed to be lucky in your bet you can still lose because you didn't take time to make a good analysis to come up with good prediction.

In sports betting skills is not a guarantee but it can help to avoid losing a lot and to have that chance to win, if you have a good skills in terms of limiting yourself and following whatever your set up limitation, it can possibly generates something decent, though it's still more on luck as you are in gambling but if you can find ways to have some edge and have a good ideas and basis before placing your bets.

It gives you confidence while waiting for the outcome, you can just sit and relax believing that you already done dealing with your results.
The main advantage of sports betting is that you can apply some analysis at the time that you would really be doing it on which in compared to when you do make out some pure gambling casino on which we know that this will really be that basically relying with luck. You can actually made out some comparison and even just using up your own common sense then you will be able to find yourself having that main difference in between. So it will really be that up to you on which one you would really be that engaging into. It all matters about preference and liking.

Just make it sure that you will really be that sticking into the sports on which you are really that knowledgeable about. There are some bettors who do skip and make out some betting into sports on which they dont even know on which it doesnt really make sense when it comes into this aspect because dealing up with something that you dont even know the sport will really be just that basically wasting up some money.

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In sports betting, and in general in any betting (even if we take political or economic predictions) it is very difficult to achieve mastery. And this mastery must necessarily include many interesting points, such as a good knowledge of the chosen field of sport, careful selection of bookmaker odds and conducting your own deep analytical work on predicting the results of sports games. I once watched a video of a sports betting blogger.
He said that it is necessary to get rid of the illusion that it is possible to qualitatively predict the results of sports matches without computerized processing of large amounts of information. I do not think that most players do this. Many make more or less chaotic bets.

If success in sports betting depends on computer processing of information, then ordinary players do not have much chance.

Firstly, they will have to compete with large analytical teams that use the most powerful and fastest computers.

Secondly, they will have to compete with artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is constantly improving. Almost every month, new versions of language models are released. At the same time, artificial intelligence significantly surpasses humans in all tasks related to computer processing of information. Therefore, for the average player, in my opinion, sports betting can be considered a game of chance that is completely based on luck.

An exception can be considered the case when this average player has insider information about a sporting event. Such situations also happen and in this case the player really has an undeniable competitive advantage that can ensure him a win in gambling.

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Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?

IMO, winning and making profit in sports betting is more of skill-based rather than luck. Though there is always an element of luck when you try to place a bet in any form of gambling. However, sports betting requires knowledge, know-how, familiarity of which sports you laid your interest in, and of course the odd & match-up analysis, which plays a vital role in determining your chances of winning.
When someone is placing bets mindlessly and were able to come up winning, then that's what you call a pure luck. I don't believe a lot of sports bettors are actually doing it. Because most of us would analyze the odd vs the match-up before placing bets.

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April 13, 2025, 07:17:00 AM
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In Gambling your success depends on your luck and not your skills. Even if you have enough knowledge on a particular sports doesn't mean you will get it right at most games you bets on,it's all luck.
This is correct, luck plays the final card in determining your win or loss. Even with a number of reasons why one can win a game, a simple reason might come in and make the game a loss for the gambler.

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If you think experience is enough to get you a win,then why are most experience gamblers still experiencing more looses than wins in bets, because in gambling they're is no guarantee even if you're the most experienced gambler so far,your success on a particular bets depends on your luck.
Also evidenced by the fact that most sports bettors also face losses and they eventually move away from sports betting to just writing books and doing podcasts with selling merch and so on.

What I am trying to say is that even seasoned sport bettors understand this reality and thus they try to find alternative methods to make money while getting paid from affiliate links.

 
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April 13, 2025, 07:32:21 AM
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In Gambling your success depends on your luck and not your skills. Even if you have enough knowledge on a particular sports doesn't mean you will get it right at most games you bets on,it's all luck. If you think experience is enough to get you a win,then why are most experience gamblers still experiencing more looses than wins in bets, because in gambling they're is no guarantee even if you're the most experienced gambler so far,your success on a particular bets depends on your luck.
Winning in gambling is luck because gambling can't be predicted, experience in gambling have nothing to do with winning.  If experience determines winning in gambling then I think all experience gamblers should be making good amount of money in gambling.  The only role experience has to do gambling is for gamblers to learn from their gambling experience to gambling right with the money and time factor in gambling but as for winning it is just based on luck.
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April 13, 2025, 08:21:04 AM
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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?
I would say that sports betting is mainly based on skill. If you think that sports betting is based on luck, then it is a bit questionable because if you have a good understanding of sports and experience, then you can win a lot from your experience. You may not be very experienced in sports, which is why you are relying on luck in sports betting. Since you have not been able to win in five years, you should stop gambling because sports betting should never be based on luck.

Skills and experience really matter in sport betting. Although an element of luck is also included to here. This is because sometimes a team that suppose to win on paper may disappoint and lose. So if you mainly play parley, then luck may still be consider here.

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April 13, 2025, 08:35:08 AM
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In Gambling your success depends on your luck and not your skills. Even if you have enough knowledge on a particular sports doesn't mean you will get it right at most games you bets on,it's all luck. If you think experience is enough to get you a win,then why are most experience gamblers still experiencing more looses than wins in bets, because in gambling they're is no guarantee even if you're the most experienced gambler so far,your success on a particular bets depends on your luck.
You are very wrong about this. Fine, luck plays a huge role in gambling, but this doesn't have the final say in all aspects of it. Are you telling me that it's all about 100% luck in Sports betting, Poker, Chess etc? If you said so, then you are only deceiving yourself. The more you know how to analyze/play those games, the better for you, as it will increase your chances of winning rather than believing that it must all be based on luck.

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As far as I understand the role of luck in sports betting depends on what strategy the bettor follows. For example, if a bettor makes only one bet, then luck plays a rather high role - about 50-70%. If the bettor adheres to a systematic approach and in the long term makes a large number of bets, the role of luck is significantly reduced. This is what professional bettors and gamblers do. Therefore, each of us independently determine the role of luck in sports betting through their risk management, analytics and discipline.
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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?
Personally, I think it's both luck and skill. They both play crucial roles in your bets and also work hand in hand.  Developing your gambling skill is good but to some extent your experience would still determine how you will place your bets to give you a better chance of winning. If you still aren't lucky, no matter how good you might have arranged your games to be, you will still end up losing. sometimes when you watch sport, you hope that they win and then very close to the end of the game your bet gets ruin. That just because you were unlucky, at that point, your skill isn't going to help.

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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?

Whether you play sports betting or general gambling, both are based on luck. In my opinion, gambling is a game based on luck.

However, in sports betting, you are likely to win comparatively more by using your skills.

Suppose you know a player very well. You know that he performs very well in the first match. Does that mean that he will perform the same in the next match as well.

So I can strongly say that in sports betting you have to rely on luck.
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If you are not making money, then obviously, your skills is not that sharp, just saying.
I think that would justify our answer...

If we're profitable in sports betting, it means our success is skill-based; if we're constantly losing, then it's probably just luck at play. Only real gamblers truly understand this topic. When you're just reading books, you're working with theories, but in practice, things can be totally different. It's like having a strategy on paper, if you don't follow it effectively, it just won't work.


Skills over luck, sports betting requires a certain level of research and analysis, they won't always work but you are definitely going to make more profits than losses overtime if you are a strategic gambler.. always being lucky reliant means that you are ready to accept any outcome that comes.. strategies work Only when we apply them correctly but no strategy is a hundred percent, If they are well structured they can always have a high chance of playing out but don't always expect a good result everytime

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I would argue that it is a mixed of both.

It is considered skill based due to the number of factors that are involved. For example, if a certain team is against a weaker team, you should still consider injuries, winning streaks, etc. that can help you arrive at your decision. Just because the weaker team is on a losing streak does not guarantee that it will lose all of its game. A weaker team could also perform well versus a stronger team depending on the match-ups, etc.

On the other hand, I also consider it as luck based because even if you consider all the factors above, there is still that element of luck that can surprise and caught anyone off-guard. One example here would be the 2016 NBA Finals between the GSW vs Heat. GSW was leading 3-1 in the playoffs and in the entire history of NBA, there is no team that ever recovered from that score. Heat defied the odds and won the playoffs by 3-4.

In conclusion, I would argue that sports-betting involves a mixed of both skill and luck based. A person who wants to try sports betting must do their respective research to weigh all pros and cons in order to have an advantage over the others.
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Therefore, each of us independently determine the role of luck in sports betting through their risk management, analytics and discipline.
You have a good point with this concluding part, I don't know why some people would think that luck will take the whole stage in the entire gambling space; how feasible is that? Your money/risk management, analyses, discipline etc, play a huge role in limiting the reliance on luck, and even if you lose at times, you still get your account covered. This is unlike the person who is gambling recklessly with no good information, not to mention speculating rightly and having $1000 in his bankroll and still committing all the money into betting at once. Tell me, is that person not significantly relying on luck? This can't be compared to the person with proper skills and plan.

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When I was a beginner, luck played a bigger role because I wasn't very familiar with the rules of the game. Gradually, as I gained experience, I was able to analyze the team's performance and predict the match results.
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My personal take on this one is that sports betting is that it’s skill-based...

I think if I just work on my skills, I can turn a profit eventually, yep, "eventually" is the trick word here. But after more than five years of sports betting, I'm still not making money. Now I'm wondering: is sports betting really about skill, or is it just luck? If it's about skill, maybe I just haven't got what it takes, and I'm just riding on luck.

What do you think about this topic?

Based on your experience, is it primarily luck, or do you still believe it’s skill-based, even if you haven't proven yourself yet?

Sports bet have an advantage over slots and other casino games, that's data analysis but still, the end result relies heavily on how the team will perform, meaning your hope and prediction depends if the team performs as you predicted, what does this tell you? That even with skills you are still at the mercy of luck.

Have you ever seen someone who isn't even into watching sports matches that much and still win big with sport match? Because I have, this person have no knowledge and he doesn't follow news and everything happening but he won big one time like that, this finalize my though about sports matches, that it is completely based on luck.

This is why you will see a small football club winning a might well known football team, this things happens, just like in those UFC sports, you can't always win every time even if you are the strongest, one day someone might just knock you out.

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