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Title: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: MGK- on April 02, 2014, 05:21:17 PM
Putting my cointerra unit, Tripp-Lite 12,000 BTU stand alone A/C, and Star-Tech server rack for sale.

Starting Price- $6,500 for all, not including shipping. Shipping will be from the US and you will be responsible for cost.

Unit hashes 1.6TH/s on average. Tripp-Lite has no problem keeping unit cold (although I haven't needed it with this long winter). Server rack will keep the unit in a clean environment, great way to keep the unit clean from pet hair and dust.

I will keep this up until I am satisfied with an agreement.

No lowballs please, this unit sells for $6,000 with a 2/3 month waiting list. I am offering a very fair price for the lot. Feel free to make an offer for just the miner if you're not interested in the rest.





Proof of ownership

Cointerra unit
https://i.imgur.com/EiqBMdd.jpg

Tripp-Lite Stand alone A/C
-12,000 BTU of cooling power can cool a 500 square foot room
-Uses R410a refrigerant (Contains no ozone depleting R22 refrigerant which has been banned by the U.S. EPA in new equipment after January 1, 2010)
-No water collection tank required. A built-in evaporator expels condensate into the exhaust air stream meaning no drain tube, drain pan or water collection tank that needs to be emptied every few hours
-Cold air output can be precisely directed through a 71" flexible tube to the 'hot spot' for better, faster cooling. (Standard louvered insert is also included for general room cooling)
-Auto-restart feature retains all system settings and returns the unit back to its last operational state after AC power is restored
-Compact and portable - ideal for wiring closets and other space-critical locations
-Compact, portable, self-contained design; ideal for IT, industrial, commercial and similar applications
-Features top-mounted control panel with LCD temperature readout and LEDs
-Provides supplemental, emergency and off-hour cooling in IT and other applications
-Quick and easy installation. Plugs into a standard 5-15R outlet; no adapter required
-Requires no floor drain or water collection tank and offers 12,000 BTU of cooling power
-Standard louvered vent for general room cooling and ducted vent to direct cold air where needed
-Window/drop ceiling installation kit is included for extracting heat

https://i.imgur.com/c0OcCPv.jpg


Star-Tech Server Rack
-Protects valuable equipment from tampering-Wall mounted cabinet provides secure storage for rack mount equipment
-Fully adjustable mounting rails inside cabinet
-Front door is removable and can be switched to open left or right
-One roof-mounted fan exhaust up to 85 CFM of air
-Comes fully assembled
-Includes (1) 5" (12cm) Ball bearing AC fan moving up to 85 CFM of air, lockable & removable smoked acrylic front door with 2 keys
-Stylish enclosure is designed for durability and easy accessibility

https://i.imgur.com/GZLDN78.jpg




 


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 02, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
Still open for offers


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 02, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
I am willing to meet anywhere along the east coast to do a face to face transaction.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: drangos on April 02, 2014, 10:20:03 PM
offering 10 btc... when i take ants... well you know the story.
Since i got my own business runing i get power a lot cheaper so :)


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 02, 2014, 10:29:01 PM
offering 10 btc... when i take ants... well you know the story.
Since i got my own business runing i get power a lot cheaper so :)

10BTC for just the miner?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 12:43:35 AM
Moving so this has to go!

If you are interested PM me and lets make a deal.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ncsupanda on April 03, 2014, 03:00:09 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 03:05:04 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.

I am going to be brutally honest. I bought this machine because its basically out of the box a plug-in and mine rig. I don't know the first thing about specs or anything with graphic cards. I used WoW as an example to how "bad ass" of a computer I want.

Can you tell me how much they usually run and some general information I should know?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ncsupanda on April 03, 2014, 03:09:00 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.

I am going to be brutally honest. I bought this machine because its basically out of the box a plug-in and mine rig. I don't know the first thing about specs or anything with graphic cards. I used WoW as an example to how "bad ass" of a computer I want.

Can you tell me how much they usually run and some general information I should know?

The Two Hydrocopper 780s are the second best graphics card that Nvidia makes - They are watercooled cards, complete with a waterblock, and run any game at full specs individually, and in crossfire they overclock really well. I have been able to play Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, and games such as Metro: Last Light on Full HD over three monitors while keeping above 80 FPS. I can assume that since WoW is a bit less Graphic Intensive then the games I mentioned, there wouldn't be any issues.

The four R9 290X's in a quadfire setup (with all four running together) would be a setup that doesn't need to be improved for several years. They are on the higher/highest end of Radeon's gaming graphics cards. They are air cooled.

These cards are seemingly equivocal in performance, and there's a lot of user preference. Hope this helps!


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 03:15:09 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.

I am going to be brutally honest. I bought this machine because its basically out of the box a plug-in and mine rig. I don't know the first thing about specs or anything with graphic cards. I used WoW as an example to how "bad ass" of a computer I want.

Can you tell me how much they usually run and some general information I should know?

The Two Hydrocopper 780s are the second best graphics card that Nvidia makes - They are watercooled cards, complete with a waterblock, and run any game at full specs individually, and in crossfire they overclock really well. I have been able to play Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, and games such as Metro: Last Light on Full HD over three monitors while keeping above 80 FPS. I can assume that since WoW is a bit less Graphic Intensive then the games I mentioned, there wouldn't be any issues.

The four R9 290X's in a quadfire setup (with all four running together) would be a setup that doesn't need to be improved for several years. They are on the higher/highest end of Radeon's gaming graphics cards. They are air cooled.

These cards are seemingly equivocal in performance, and there's a lot of user preference. Hope this helps!

Thanks for explaining. I heard a lot about Crysis crashing peoples computer so I can assume those cards are high end.

Are you offering just the cards in exchange, because I would most likely need bitcoin with those cards to make a deal.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ncsupanda on April 03, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.

I am going to be brutally honest. I bought this machine because its basically out of the box a plug-in and mine rig. I don't know the first thing about specs or anything with graphic cards. I used WoW as an example to how "bad ass" of a computer I want.

Can you tell me how much they usually run and some general information I should know?

The Two Hydrocopper 780s are the second best graphics card that Nvidia makes - They are watercooled cards, complete with a waterblock, and run any game at full specs individually, and in crossfire they overclock really well. I have been able to play Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, and games such as Metro: Last Light on Full HD over three monitors while keeping above 80 FPS. I can assume that since WoW is a bit less Graphic Intensive then the games I mentioned, there wouldn't be any issues.

The four R9 290X's in a quadfire setup (with all four running together) would be a setup that doesn't need to be improved for several years. They are on the higher/highest end of Radeon's gaming graphics cards. They are air cooled.

These cards are seemingly equivocal in performance, and there's a lot of user preference. Hope this helps!

Thanks for explaining. I heard a lot about Crysis crashing peoples computer so I can assume those cards are high end.

Are you offering just the cards in exchange, because I would most likely need bitcoin with those cards to make a deal.

I would be willing to trade all 6 of these GPUs, and could include BTC to cover the rest of the price, as you determine. Also, where in the US?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 03:23:39 PM
Open to trades that including a heavy duty graphics card so I can run WoW on the highest spec.

I have two Hydrocopper 780s, as well as 4 R9 290X's.

I am going to be brutally honest. I bought this machine because its basically out of the box a plug-in and mine rig. I don't know the first thing about specs or anything with graphic cards. I used WoW as an example to how "bad ass" of a computer I want.

Can you tell me how much they usually run and some general information I should know?

The Two Hydrocopper 780s are the second best graphics card that Nvidia makes - They are watercooled cards, complete with a waterblock, and run any game at full specs individually, and in crossfire they overclock really well. I have been able to play Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, and games such as Metro: Last Light on Full HD over three monitors while keeping above 80 FPS. I can assume that since WoW is a bit less Graphic Intensive then the games I mentioned, there wouldn't be any issues.

The four R9 290X's in a quadfire setup (with all four running together) would be a setup that doesn't need to be improved for several years. They are on the higher/highest end of Radeon's gaming graphics cards. They are air cooled.

These cards are seemingly equivocal in performance, and there's a lot of user preference. Hope this helps!

Thanks for explaining. I heard a lot about Crysis crashing peoples computer so I can assume those cards are high end.

Are you offering just the cards in exchange, because I would most likely need bitcoin with those cards to make a deal.

I would be willing to trade all 6 of these GPUs, and could include BTC to cover the rest of the price, as you determine. Also, where in the US?

Ok make an offer, I have a couple people interested but 2 have passed on the deal so I'm selling first come first serve. Whoever comes up with the bitcoin first will be the one who gets it.

Shipping will come from NY. Reason I am selling is because Im moving to Denver, if you are on the way and don't mind waiting till the end of the month a face to face transaction could work.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: techgeek on April 03, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?

Only bitcoins unless we arrange for a face to face transaction, in that case I will take cash.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ncsupanda on April 03, 2014, 04:23:57 PM
What is your asking price for the miner alone? Just specifying.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
What is your asking price for the miner alone? Just specifying.

10BTC


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ncsupanda on April 03, 2014, 04:52:15 PM
I'd be willing to do the 6 GPUs valued at 650 (about 3900) plus the BTC difference, with overnight shipping. Feel free to PM me to discuss.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 03, 2014, 11:39:01 PM
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Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: fatguyyyyy on April 04, 2014, 12:26:36 AM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?

Only bitcoins unless we arrange for a face to face transaction, in that case I will take cash.

I`m aware someone else mentioned fiat, but just had to ask since he asked it first.

What about escrow.com thats reputable thats holding the money, until both parties agree.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 12:39:05 AM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?

Only bitcoins unless we arrange for a face to face transaction, in that case I will take cash.

I`m aware someone else mentioned fiat, but just had to ask since he asked it first.

What about escrow.com thats reputable thats holding the money, until both parties agree.

No thank, I've heard nothing but bad things from that site. I contacted tomatocage for escrow but he won't handle the equipment to insure its working properly.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: Powell on April 04, 2014, 02:12:23 AM
Where are you located in the US?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 01:35:36 PM
Are there any escrows that handle equipment?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
Are there any escrows that handle equipment?

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Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: crazyates on April 04, 2014, 06:12:44 PM
We got a Gigabyte 280x or a PowerColor 290 we could put towards a trade. Both play WoW very nicely, from personal experience. ;)

We're willing to offer the 290 and 7BTC. Anything more than that, and it's not worth it for us.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
We got a Gigabyte 280x or a PowerColor 290 we could put towards a trade. Both play WoW very nicely, from personal experience. ;)

We're willing to offer the 290 and 7BTC. Anything more than that, and it's not worth it for us.

First is this for the lot or just the miner?

Second I don't think I will be able to complete the sale here, I'm not willing to ship first and for the last 2 days I've been looking for an escrow to handle the miner and exchange btc once they ship to the buyer with no success. I'm thinking Ebay will bring a better price and better security for the buyer to feel confident with the purchase.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
We got a Gigabyte 280x or a PowerColor 290 we could put towards a trade. Both play WoW very nicely, from personal experience. ;)

We're willing to offer the 290 and 7BTC. Anything more than that, and it's not worth it for us.

I just noticed your avatar, any chance you are near buffalo?

Edit: My bad thought that was the sabers not Boston.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: crazyates on April 04, 2014, 06:28:29 PM
We got a Gigabyte 280x or a PowerColor 290 we could put towards a trade. Both play WoW very nicely, from personal experience. ;)

We're willing to offer the 290 and 7BTC. Anything more than that, and it's not worth it for us.

First is this for the lot or just the miner?

Second I don't think I will be able to complete the sale here, I'm not willing to ship first and for the last 2 days I've been looking for an escrow to handle the miner and exchange btc once they ship to the buyer with no success. I'm thinking Ebay will bring a better price and better security for the buyer to feel confident with the purchase.
We're looking for just the miner.

You can see my sig for my previous trade history. We've done plenty of large transactions, some of which quite recently. If you need escrow, we have a few people that we've used and trust.

Edit: My bad thought that was the sabers not Boston.
Yep, we're about an hour north of Boston. You're in NY?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 06:35:52 PM
We got a Gigabyte 280x or a PowerColor 290 we could put towards a trade. Both play WoW very nicely, from personal experience. ;)

We're willing to offer the 290 and 7BTC. Anything more than that, and it's not worth it for us.

First is this for the lot or just the miner?

Second I don't think I will be able to complete the sale here, I'm not willing to ship first and for the last 2 days I've been looking for an escrow to handle the miner and exchange btc once they ship to the buyer with no success. I'm thinking Ebay will bring a better price and better security for the buyer to feel confident with the purchase.
We're looking for just the miner.

You can see my sig for my previous trade history. We've done plenty of large transactions, some of which quite recently. If you need escrow, we have a few people that we've used and trust.

Edit: My bad thought that was the sabers not Boston.
Yep, we're about an hour north of Boston. You're in NY?

Yes I'm about a hour from Buffalo. Can you link me to the escrow so I can check over them and make sure they handle the equipment and all that good stuff? I see you have previous history but I still need to be cautious. All I have in my mind is how John K vanished with bitcoin and I thought I could trust him with anything, so you never really know.

I will talk to the escrow you recommend then we can discuss the price. I've had about 3-4 people back out after plenty of time being spent negotiating terms because we need escrow.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: fatguyyyyy on April 04, 2014, 06:39:05 PM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?

Only bitcoins unless we arrange for a face to face transaction, in that case I will take cash.

I`m aware someone else mentioned fiat, but just had to ask since he asked it first.

What about escrow.com thats reputable thats holding the money, until both parties agree.

No thank, I've heard nothing but bad things from that site. I contacted tomatocage for escrow but he won't handle the equipment to insure its working properly.

Oh, I see. That sucks.. where did you hear the bad news for that site? I used it once, and it went well for me.

Can you link the thread?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: OgNasty on April 04, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
I'm always available for escrow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.msg3244972#msg3244972) if we can't reach a deal for me to purchase the unit.   ;)


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 07:08:25 PM
Are you only accepting bitcoin or are you open to fiat as well?

Only bitcoins unless we arrange for a face to face transaction, in that case I will take cash.

I`m aware someone else mentioned fiat, but just had to ask since he asked it first.

What about escrow.com thats reputable thats holding the money, until both parties agree.

No thank, I've heard nothing but bad things from that site. I contacted tomatocage for escrow but he won't handle the equipment to insure its working properly.

Oh, I see. That sucks.. where did you hear the bad news for that site? I used it once, and it went well for me.

Can you link the thread?

Of coarse I do a quick search and can't find a single post about it. I am almost sure I've read that site was a scam. I may be wrong.

I'm thinking OgNasty is my best bet for escrow on forums. Anyone willing to use him for escrow can post or PM me offers (again).


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: ccollectables on April 04, 2014, 07:45:20 PM
How will the escrow through OGNasty work?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 07:48:48 PM
How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: padrino on April 04, 2014, 10:23:47 PM
How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.

Do you have any concept of how escrow actually works, you do nothing to change the equation there since the sender is responsible for dealing with shipping damage so you are telling us all the OgNasty is going to assume all of that liability for you for what kind of fee? I wish you the best but just use escrow like most do and you will fare much better..


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 04, 2014, 10:35:24 PM
How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.

Do you have any concept of how escrow actually works, you do nothing to change the equation there since the sender is responsible for dealing with shipping damage so you are telling us all the OgNasty is going to assume all of that liability for you for what kind of fee? I wish you the best but just use escrow like most do and you will fare much better..

It changes the whole equation, it eliminates any angle shoot from a scam buyer. No he doesn't assume any liability, once he confirms it works and he sends it off the buyer has the liability. If he wants to pay for insurance that is an option too or he can meet for face to face transaction, I will even buy lunch.

I'm not totally sure you know how it works.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: lightlord on April 05, 2014, 02:09:58 AM
If you accept trades, I do have a bunch of R9 290X, 280X, 270X cards.

I would be willing to trade + BTC.

Let me know
Lightlord

How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.

Do you have any concept of how escrow actually works, you do nothing to change the equation there since the sender is responsible for dealing with shipping damage so you are telling us all the OgNasty is going to assume all of that liability for you for what kind of fee? I wish you the best but just use escrow like most do and you will fare much better..

It changes the whole equation, it eliminates any angle shoot from a scam buyer. No he doesn't assume any liability, once he confirms it works and he sends it off the buyer has the liability. If he wants to pay for insurance that is an option too or he can meet for face to face transaction, I will even buy lunch.

I'm not totally sure you know how it works.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 05, 2014, 02:22:18 AM
If you accept trades, I do have a bunch of R9 290X, 280X, 270X cards.

I would be willing to trade + BTC.

Let me know
Lightlord

How will the escrow through OGNasty work?

Any escrow used will need to accept payment from the buyer then I will ship the unit to OgNasty, he will confirm it runs properly and ship the unit to you and send me bitcoins. It's the only way I can think of. I'm worried someone may try to say I sent a broken unit or empty box etc. This way the escrow personally tests and confirms everything and handles all the funds.

Only downside is buyer will need to pay shipping 2x.

Do you have any concept of how escrow actually works, you do nothing to change the equation there since the sender is responsible for dealing with shipping damage so you are telling us all the OgNasty is going to assume all of that liability for you for what kind of fee? I wish you the best but just use escrow like most do and you will fare much better..

It changes the whole equation, it eliminates any angle shoot from a scam buyer. No he doesn't assume any liability, once he confirms it works and he sends it off the buyer has the liability. If he wants to pay for insurance that is an option too or he can meet for face to face transaction, I will even buy lunch.

I'm not totally sure you know how it works.

I would like to discuss a deal but apparently there is something wrong with the escrow verifying the miner and shipping to the buyer. I feel like it's a setup for a scam, buyer says miner is broken or box was empty etc and I don't see the problem with escrow verifying the rig. The only problem would be if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: crazyates on April 05, 2014, 05:21:39 AM
I would like to discuss a deal but apparently there is something wrong with the escrow verifying the miner and shipping to the buyer. I feel like it's a setup for a scam, buyer says miner is broken or box was empty etc and I don't see the problem with escrow verifying the rig. The only problem would be if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one.
As I said in our PMs, the bigger risk of a scam is the escrow agent running off with both your miner AND the buyers coins.

That said, I've had this happen once or twice: The hardware gets damaged in shipping. A) shipping the unit twice doubles the chance of it getting damaged in transit, and B) usually something can be worked out between the buyer and seller.

In the event of an issue, it usually goes down one of two ways: 1) the buyer ships it back to the seller on their dime, and the buyer gets their coins back. The buyer only gets their coins back if they return the hardware to the seller, otherwise the seller gets them. 2) The buyer keeps the unit (say it hashes fine, and it's just cosmetic damage), and the seller gets their coins. If anything other than these two scenarios were to happen, the escrow agent steps in and acts as mediator. The end result is that whoever gets the hardware, the other person gets the coins. The escrow agent is there to make sure this happens.

It's a decent system that offers a fair protection for both the buyer and seller. You don't need to reinvent the wheel and create overly complicated scenarios where you might come across an intentionally malicious buyer. That rarely happens, esp when you're dealing with people who have a known positive trade history. I'm partially referring to myself, and partially referring to some of the other people in this thread who have offered to buy it, and have excellent records. Lightlord is an example of this.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: padrino on April 05, 2014, 04:12:29 PM
I would like to discuss a deal but apparently there is something wrong with the escrow verifying the miner and shipping to the buyer. I feel like it's a setup for a scam, buyer says miner is broken or box was empty etc and I don't see the problem with escrow verifying the rig. The only problem would be if the buyer is trying to pull a fast one.
As I said in our PMs, the bigger risk of a scam is the escrow agent running off with both your miner AND the buyers coins.

That said, I've had this happen once or twice: The hardware gets damaged in shipping. A) shipping the unit twice doubles the chance of it getting damaged in transit, and B) usually something can be worked out between the buyer and seller.

In the event of an issue, it usually goes down one of two ways: 1) the buyer ships it back to the seller on their dime, and the buyer gets their coins back. The buyer only gets their coins back if they return the hardware to the seller, otherwise the seller gets them. 2) The buyer keeps the unit (say it hashes fine, and it's just cosmetic damage), and the seller gets their coins. If anything other than these two scenarios were to happen, the escrow agent steps in and acts as mediator. The end result is that whoever gets the hardware, the other person gets the coins. The escrow agent is there to make sure this happens.

It's a decent system that offers a fair protection for both the buyer and seller. You don't need to reinvent the wheel and create overly complicated scenarios where you might come across an intentionally malicious buyer. That rarely happens, esp when you're dealing with people who have a known positive trade history. I'm partially referring to myself, and partially referring to some of the other people in this thread who have offered to buy it, and have excellent records. Lightlord is an example of this.

Thanks for adding much needed clarity to the point I was trying to make.. The overly complicated situation the seller is trying to engineer is in itself a concern, I understand the reasoning but it adds extra risk on both the part of the seller and buyer with no real way to address the shortfall if any of the parties are malicious.

The buyer can still say he got a broken miner and because of the way shipping insurance works the responsibility for dealing with the claim, etc. is on the shipper, in the case of MGK's scenario that would be OgNasty, if he releases the coins to MGK before addressing then he didn't do his job an an escrow agent yet he is stuck in the middle as long as the insurance claim is outstanding.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 05, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
It's alright guys I understand the concern. I'm just going to deal with ebay one this one.

I get that I only have a little positive feedback on this particular forum (more all over the internet) people have concern but I paid for the unit before I received it and whoever buys this will have to pay before receiving it also. I'm not willing to get scammed. I'd rather leave it behind and work a deal with a friend to run it worst case scenario.

Thanks everyone for their bids and input.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: FrozenBit on April 05, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
It's alright guys I understand the concern. I'm just going to deal with ebay one this one.

I get that I only have a little positive feedback on this particular forum (more all over the internet) people have concern but I paid for the unit before I received it and whoever buys this will have to pay before receiving it also. I'm not willing to get scammed. I'd rather leave it behind and work a deal with a friend to run it worst case scenario.

Thanks everyone for their bids and input.

  Your scenario for escrow sounded fine. I swear this forum gets dumber by the day. It really just sounds like the forum "kids" are trying to pull a fast one, don't listen to them please.
 
Have a nice day, don't take anything these guys say seriously they have no fucking idea what they're doing.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: MGK- on April 05, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
It's alright guys I understand the concern. I'm just going to deal with ebay one this one.

I get that I only have a little positive feedback on this particular forum (more all over the internet) people have concern but I paid for the unit before I received it and whoever buys this will have to pay before receiving it also. I'm not willing to get scammed. I'd rather leave it behind and work a deal with a friend to run it worst case scenario.

Thanks everyone for their bids and input.

  Your scenario for escrow sounded fine. I swear this forum gets dumber by the day. It really just sounds like the forum "kids" are trying to pull a fast one, don't listen to them please.
 
Have a nice day, don't take anything these guys say seriously they have no fucking idea what they're doing.

Not just this situation but many others on this forum make absolutely no sense to me. I am offering the fairest price on this machine even after I paid an outrageous amount to have it over nighted. Yet people don't want escrow to have anything to do with confirming so I don't get scammed.

As far as the "don't give escrow everything" concern, if you are worried he will steal you probably shouldn't be using them as an escrow in the first place.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: MGK- on April 07, 2014, 06:50:07 PM
Priced reduced, set to sell.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: ncsupanda on April 07, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
Priced reduced, set to sell.

I'm willing to use OgNasty as an escrow, if you're still interested in the trade I asked you about. Thanks.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories
Post by: IYFTech on April 07, 2014, 07:56:58 PM
It really just sounds like the forum "kids" are trying to pull a fast one,

You have 3 posts, including this one.

What "kids" are you referring to exactly?


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: VinCeCream on April 08, 2014, 03:15:44 PM
Hi,

Do you ship to Europe ?

Best Regards,

VinCeCream


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: MGK- on April 08, 2014, 04:30:41 PM
Hi,

Do you ship to Europe ?

Best Regards,

VinCeCream

PM sent, shipping can be used with MBag for reasonable rates.


Title: Re: 1 Cointerra 2TH/s Unit for Sale plus Accessories Priced Reduced
Post by: MGK- on April 09, 2014, 08:09:53 AM
A deal has been made and arrangements to meet in person. This unit is considered sold now.