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Are you angry about the IRS declaring Bitcoin property?
Me too! Sign this white house petition and lets see if we can veto this IRS crap!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/amend-irs-notice-2014-2taxing-virtual-currencybitcoin-property-stifles-new-technologycreates/z7WtKZGY
SHARE THIS THREAD. SPREAD THE PETITION.

You neo-hippie liberals and your useless fucking internet petitions. When was the last time anyone with real power gave a fuck? Oh right, never. Get a grip, petitions don't matter.

We don't need to stop the IRS anymore than we need to stop corporations from copywriting our culture. For we have transcended them with this innovation. The game was over before it began.

There is no possible outcome in which fiat money survives this century. None. They are done, son.

God I hate liberals. Just smart enough to know how shitty the system is, just stupid enough to be totally ineffectual (http://zinelibrary.info/files/pap_imposed.pdf) at fixing the problem..

^^^^ this is fact. The best petition you can sign is the one where you adopt bitcoin as exclusively as you can as it grows and educate people around you to how it benefits them.

Well said.

I'm a Liberal and I agree with everything you said.  Minus hating myself.

In fact most of my friends are liberals and would agree with everything you just said.

In the end this isn't about stupid fucking titles like "Liberal" or "Conservative".   Its about IQ.

-B-

Stop being morons, if you care about bitcoins, sign the fucking petition.

Classifying as property instead of currency is a tremendous detriment to the adoption and use of bitcoin by US business. And US is a critical market for bitcoin, its price stability and future.

This is all new to the government including IRS, they are experimenting. If they see a strong reaction it will affect their future policies and new laws on bitcoin to be more favorable as a currency.

As it is now with only 700 signatures on a forum of 300k users, it is pathetic and shows the government we don't care if they regulate it to shit or ban it.

There is no downside only positive for signing the petition to send a voice to the us govt. Worst case nothing happens you lose 5 minutes.

So get your fucking head out of your ass, all of you anti government anarchy loving lemmings. The only way bitcoin will thrive is by working with the world governments, banks, and businesses while dictating policy and regulation... on bitcoins terms... by lobbying the government.

All this bullshit about bitcoin doesn't need government support to survive or thrive, is exactly that, BS. The world is run by governments and businesses.  Maybe that's what some of you want, to drag bitcoin down to be stuck in the Silk Road era, but that's not what bitcoin wants.

So again sign the damn petition.

These petitions are a joke, they never change a damn thing, ever.

Well said mate. I think maybe use a less negative response to someone trying to do some good and help them in finding the correct path :)

Just kick back and wait for it. I have a feeling we are all going to be very very surprised at how much btc will come to be worth after they have decided to stop the lies and rumors around it and finally let people know its okay to buy it after having bought the necessary amount for themselves.


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Sorry, OP, but I don't beg politicians for anything.

The IRS can't take my bitcoins, nor prevent me from earning them. The money I make I earned, and don't owe anyone a dime of it.

Stick around. Bitcoin will be around long after the IRS is dead and buried.

YEAH! That's why they call him a Hero Member  ;D

Pay your taxes. IRS regulation is better than no regulation at all.

Pissing in the wind as they say.

Vote with your feet.  Get out of the country & renunciate citizenship.

It's going to get a lot worse in the USSA before it gets better. 

There's many more places in the world that offer you a life with far more freedoms, opportunity, & far less stress.

How does your head feel under that jackboot mate?

Funny, I pay more tax's then most people make in a year  ;D And I love it  ;D YEAH! Jesse11

That's a great spot to be... but rather an ignorant one too.

Perhaps you should consider what those tax dollars you love paying so much are being used for.  If that sits well with you, then continue to "love" paying them.  Hell, give them some extra, just to be sure they don't hassle you.

But if it doesn't, then do what any ethical person would do, & use every tool at your disposal for non-violent civil disobedience.  

The IRS can hallucinate that they can "regulate" crypto currencies.  Good luck with that...  But I'm sure they'll be plenty who mindlessly comply.

Never forget that system needs your "voluntary" cooperation.  Now be a good citizen... and do as you're told without question.

Good Point, now let's all release every penny we've spent on BTC and forget the IRS!   

Found a picture of the OP:

http://gabrielchapman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/tumblr_lsh5rzF7id1r36me9o1_500.jpg

Hard at work, changing the world.

Damn, I'm mining, and missing all the action  :)

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu2/techjesse/Bad%20Boy%20Computer/caveman_2102photo_2.jpg

please sign my petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/take-lead-initiatives-ban-bitcoin-allowing-only-regulated-payment-service-providers/zV3FnZTx

Signed for the lols, and for great injustice! Oh wait what? I need an account? Nevermind, too much work.

Maybe we could put this on Facebook and tell everybody if they repost to their wall or LIKE it 1 million times that Facebook will abolish the IRS silly rules </sarcasm>

Maybe taxing bitcoin is not as bad as it seams at the first sight. Once it get taxed people will be aware that is legal ,they will trust it more,buy it,make its value grow.

The WH (POTUS) has zero control of the You Owe us everything u own, owned, might own, or thought about owning.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=538500.msg6054625#msg6054625

Dear OP

Serious response, not a smartass one so don't take it out of context amid the other snarky ones (why is it I start picking up Britisms when I'm in La?)

Here's the thing you're apparently missing in your clearly well intended attempt to petition the government and air your grievances as is our Constitutional right.

1. First and foremost, the entire founding principle of bitcoin platform, as offered by Satoshi Nakamoto back in the day, is essentially that the IRS has no jurisdiction over bitcoin. More to the point, it has no enforceable jurisdiction over bitcoin. Its only means of control is over fiat currency.

2. By making any attempt to work with the IRS, you are basically saying you neither understand the point and purpose of bitcoin, nor believe in it as the disruptive technology that it is and any concessions to a central government or authority is to weaken the entire foundation of bitcoin, and there are far too many in the network who will never allow it to happen.

3. No matter the cause, no government gives one rat's ass about an online petition. It's hard enough to get Netflix to bring back Jericho.

4. In any case, bitcoin and fiat IRS enforced dollars will always be at odds. It's one thing (for now) to put in some fiat and watch it escalate in value and then cash out back to fiat and go buy stuff - and the IRS is fine letting that happen because they can tax that fiat. Their ruling isn't that big a deal in the short term or the long term because a) short term, it's not a threat and they can collect taxes on it however they classify it and only from those who actually care to comply with it, and b) in the long term bitcoin IS a threat to fiat currency global wide but by the time it's mainstream accepted and the 51% balance of users understand and invest in it as a "secondary" currency, they will also be seeing the value of the dollar nosedive and be worth less and less...meanwhile, watching their bitcoin make more powerful purchases...and if the government attempts to issue bans and all that crap then, the people will vote fiat out of existence by moving 100% to bitcoin because they can, collapsing the corrupt vein of the government.

Again bitcoin IS disruptive...to the entire paradigm of how we've all been conditioned to accept things.

5. bitcoin offers you a real choice, not a theoretical one. A simple real choice maintains the momentum of the disruption long term.

Scrap the petition and invest in bitcoin. Tell people about bitcoin, get them interested and investing...and don't ask permission from the government.

The government's jurisdiction ends with bitcoin.

Government isn't going anywhere.  Regulation can only go so far with something as decentralized as Bitcoin, but it will be there. Taxation isn't going anywhere.  

The libertarians and/or anarchists who believe that Bitcoin is somehow the "perfect weapon" to "stick it to the man" will all be sadly disappointed because it isn't their coin and it isn't their technology anymore.

They will be marginalized to the fringes where they belong (and want to be).  In fact, that marginalization has already begun.  Individuals like Andreas Antonopoulos and his ilk will be hushed down to a murmur because mature people willing to fit within the framework of society will adapt Bitcoin into an acceptable fit for what it is most capable of doing: reforming the current banking system / payment processing platforms.

Dream on.  ;D

Clueless government sheep detected.

Fuck you. You incompetent prick. You know nothing.

Err, that was a joke dude. He was just mocking OP...

Take a deep breath.

Do you have any other choice? Tax evasion is extremely risky. That is why I am paying the taxes, although I don't agree with the concept.

Civil disobedience has never been without risk... and never been more necessary in the world today.  No positive change ever happened without it!

Ya gotta ask yourself, where is your line in the sand?  

- State sponsored torture
- endless unfounded wars of aggression, just for profit of an elite few
- terrorizing of sovereign countries through relentless drone attacks
- government sponsored kill lists
- the shredding of the constitution
- the absolute thievery of the poor & middle classes wealth
- the relentless, unending thievery of wealth through inflation
- ubiquitous spying on every little detail of our lives
- TSA
- forced vaccinations
- forced "health care"...

Hell, you can even be jailed now for capturing rainwater on your own land.  

Growing your own food, living off the grid, & refusing to vaccinate your children makes you a "suspected terrorist" in the land of the free.

(need I go on?)

That is what you're voting for when you use the Federal Reserve note.  That is what you're enabling when you send in those tax dollars.

Just how bad does it get before you say, ENOUGH!

That line for me was crossed long ago.  Get out of the country if you can, and renunciate citizenship.

If you can't do that, then use every tool at your disposal for non-violent civil disobedience.  Refuse to feed this monster any longer at any and all cost.

Refuse to use the Federal Reserve Note.  Do your biz in Gold, silver, copper, & crypto currencies... (And sleep well at night, knowing your wealth didn't enable torturing or killing of anyone today.)