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I am 45 and have A LOT of money invested in the stock market. Enough to never work another day in my life. Recently I found out that my wife of 20 years was having an affair with a friend. I am heartbroken, devastated and want revenge. She doesn't know that I found out about her affair and don't plan on telling her anytime soon.

Here's the problem: If I divorce her I will have to give her half of my assets. I don't think it's fair at all that somebody can cheat and then take half a man's money.

Solution: I plan on selling all my stock market investments, putting all that money in a bitcoin cold wallet then moving permanently to Iraq where all my cousins and siblings live. By the time my wife realizes what had happened, I will be in a different continent and no police organization would bother tracking someone down for something this minor.

I've been interested in bitcoin for years and this is my chance to pull the trigger. Has anyone done something similar and what's the best way to buy bitcoin so that the courts can't track down where I moved that cash? From my research I am planning on withdrawing my cash then going to bitcoin ATM's across my state, buying bitcoin then transferring it to my cold wallet. Is this possible and is there a better way?

Thanks in advance Bitcoiners!

Don't be a fuckstick.  Sure, she's being a piece of crap now but that doesn't mean she isn't owed her share of your partnership from the 20 years where she was faithful and supported you.

Thinking of it as her taking half your money is the wrong understanding and it's just making this hurt worse:  You have (/had) a partnership and half the earnings in that partnership are hers-- presumably you wanted to be her partner or you wouldn't have married and the partnership has been beneficial to you or you wouldn't have been married this long.

How is it revenge to totally blow up your life like that, potentially ensnare yourself in a legal mess, get yourself stuck in iraq?

Is her cheating on you fair?  Fuck no! but it's also life-- at least be happy you found out about it.  All the people murdered by their spouses wish they were as lucky as you!  (well they would if they weren't dead) ;D

Bitcoin may not be a really a great tool to help you here.  Exchanges will eagerly rat you out, transfers are traceable, etc. But most importantly, some fantasies should remain fantasies, you shouldn't renege on your obligations.

She hurt you and your position is understandable, but your response is just giving you an avenue for her to keep hurting you for the rest of your life.

Buck up, handle this like a man-- going through it will hurt, but it will hurt once and then you can start your new life-- maybe one in iraq if that's what you want, but at least not one trapped there. Having half your assets will suck-- but people lose bigger shares all the time with ill advised trades (like when they get hyped up on altcoins... or trading bitcoin with leverage).  From your post it sounds like you're reasonably well off and half of reasonably well off is still nothing to laugh at.  I'm sure plenty of people would give their left nut to have what you'll have *after* the divorce.

If you handle things well you might also swing favorable terms in the divorce-- not unheard of for a cheating spouse to feel guilty and yield their position after they're caught especially if you play it out in a way that leaves her feeling nothing but regret for what she did.  But ultimately the best revenge will be ending her ability to harm you and moving on to an even greater life without her.

If you are committed to doing something insane and fucking yourself over just to fuck her over--  go find some trade with even odds of double or nothing, toss all your assets in.  Maybe bankrups you, but if it does it bankrupts her too.  If you double, then you can split it and walk away with what you have now! (no really, don't do this-- and if this actually sounded like a good idea, you need therapy not money hiding advice!)

Why is it unfair to you?

By law and by morality, all assets created during a marriage time between a man and a woman are considered as belong to both. Then if they get a divorce, all assets will be splited half, and it's morally and legally fair.

If you feel it is unfair, let's live alone without any wife.

Another topic on this issue.
Wife discovers husband's hidden Bitcoin during divorce proceeding. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453618.0)

If you can prove that she is cheating on you then I don’t think she will be having anything from you but that’s just my common sense speaking. I don’t know how it works in the US. (Or whatever country it is, i just assumed it is US)

You both made a vow when you married each other and if she is cheating, that vow is no longer valid and the law should have your back according to the again, common sense.

You should better spend some money and talk to a lawyer.

If she is going to have her cut anyway even though she cheated on you then you are pretty much done because her lawyers will have all your exchange records and shiet and will definitely find out about your secret stash and that will cause you further trouble.

If the law isn’t going to protect you from the cheaters, you should have done your research prior to your marriage and never have married in the US.

Don’t do anything stupid, talk to a lawyer and if you don’t, next time, there won’t be a next time.

That isn't how it works in the US-- and I'm guessing not anywhere else.

It wouldn't be equitable-- sure she broke the agreement but half the marital assets were *already* hers.  Fucking up shouldn't undo 20 years of commitment and partnership.

Also it doesn't work that way because the courts really dont want to get wrapped up in people's dirty business and drama.  Whomever fucked whomever, the court doesn't really want to hear about it.

More importantly, it would have some awfully bad incentives-- say she screwed up and fucked around then realized hubby might have caught on.  If the consequence was losing everything and ending up with her ass on the street maybe without a developed job history because she worked less or lower paying jobs to make time for home making or room for his job requirements --- well whats she gonna do?  Husband might just have an accident.   It's bad for the rules to leave people cornered.  Or-- less dramatic: it would encourage people to fake a partners infidelity or to hire someone to seduce a spouse they wanted to get rid of.  Just bad incentives all around.

And yeah, if you're not cool with that-- don't get married in the first place.  Someone who isn't ready to share their winnings isn't ready to have a partner.

This is pathetic. Please accept my sympathy. :(

As it is, I advise you to take a deep breath before you decide on anything errational. And if I were to advise you, your plan of selling your assets for Bitcoin and running to Iraq is not brilliant, as it has far-reaching implications and legal consequences that are more severe than the 50% split you are avoiding. Fine, Bitcoin can help you in a way, but what about the centralised systems you are moving the asset from? That could put you in more trouble.

Instead, if you are the one who worked solely for your fortune and have trusted family members, you can give them some of those properties as a disguise. People do that a lot now, and it's not a crime to give anyone your fortune. This is just to reduce the risk.

You may do that for some parts of the assets while you continue to gather more evidence against her. But note that this is not what would be concluded in just a year. You need time, proper documentation and consultations with an experienced lawyer, who will also trace her fortunes (including the hidden ones) and her spending. They will be useful in giving you a fair judgment.

So, let me ask you this:

Imagine you work at a job for 20 years, after which the boss decides to take your retirement fund for himself because you decided to quit instead of staying loyal to the company.  Does this mean the boss is in his rights to take away your retirement fund, for which you worked 20 years? Is he in the right?  

I do not think you are in the right, OP.
Give your wife the money she is owed,
regardless of whether you subjectively think she deserves it or not.

Be a man.

I hope I am replying to you Maxwell as this is my first time using a bitcoin thread and don't know how to reply lol.

"Bitcoin may not be a really a great tool to help you here.  Exchanges will eagerly rat you out, transfers are traceable, etc. But most importantly, some fantasies should remain fantasies, you shouldn't renege on your obligations." This is the quote I disagree with you on.

I noticed that you created you account in 2011 and have 6000 posts so you are an OG and have much more expertise in bitcoin then me. I don't want to debate mortality with you I just want to talk facts. According to my research I think you are wrong. Yes bitcoin transactions are traceable if done through an exchange registered in your name. However my plan is to drive to another city 15 hours away and then with cold hard cash buy bitcoin at bitcoin ATM's in different gas stations. Then once I buy the bitcoin's I transfer the bitcoin to my cold wallet that nobody knows about.

In this scenario there is no link or proof that I bought and transferred bitcoin. Nobody knows the cold wallet exists and all the bitcoin I buy is bought with cash at anonymous bitcoin ATM's in a city 15 hours away.

So using your bitcoin knowledge how would there be a linkage between me and this bitcoin? What proof do they have that I bought and transferred bitcoin to a cold wallet?

Also if you find yourself in a similar position again, consider preparing a prenup agreement with the help of a lawyer. Make sure It covers all the shitty outcomes.

If she accepts the terms, you won’t get disappointed in every outcome. If the terms are just, she will accept them. If she doesn’t, you have eliminated a potential problem before it even emerged. Also a win.


If you are so sure of it, why even ask our advice? Do it and see… You may or may not get away with it but either way it will never be a better decision than having preparations before these events ever took place.

Find a way to win this case without leaving the country.
She is the one who hurt you  first, get a good lawyer.
Things have changed now, cases like this don't always end up with you sharing property with her 50/50.
You left Iraq to have a better life, going back means you lose and she won even if she got nothing out of your assets.

How will you feel If you win this case and you guys get separated and she got nothing by the book of law?
You will still be in this present country and probably find someone else or stay single and enjoy your life.
Even if the law says you must split your asset for her then you have no choice, just do it and move on.

Do not leave a good country and go back to Iraq.

Bitcoin ATMs give very bad exchange rates and often have limits-- perhaps reasonable if you want a little bitcoin to fool around with or to make some online purchase-- not a reasonable way to convert a lot of wealth.

They will also likely ID you-- potentially without warning after they already have your funds (this is common ploy for shady exchanges and similar businesses to rob drug dealers and get away with it).  Worse the ATMs that really won't ID at all are the ones most likely to take your money since its not like they care about complying with any law-- that risk might be acceptable for a quick bitcoin payment but its a big gamble.

It is possible to buy bitcoin more anonymously, sure... but without a lot of expertise you take a lot of risk. And -- what does that anonymity buy you: the bank records will show you liquidating your accounts. Oh also, it can be very hard to get large amounts of money out in cash, even closing the bank the bank will want to give you a cashiers check.  Assuming you do end up in court or whatever (I know, not your plan, but its a risk) they're not going to care you converted it to bitcoin-- they're going to see the money going out and vanishing and potentially hold you in contempt until you give it up.

The whole thing is just a bad idea.  You're putting your balls in a vice and handing her the lever.   You're angry now, but there is NO price that can be put on peace of mind.  If you go this route and even if you initially get away-- the odds that you will come to regret it are extremely high.

And your family will know you as someone who didn't have the spine to make good on his agreements because he regretted them long later.

Ever heard the old advice "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face"?  It was written for what you're feeling right now.

The only terms that would satisfy him now would be ones like "if someone cheats the other party gets everything" -- and that's just too manifestly unjust and likely to get thrown out if you ever tried to enforce it... especially since as I mentioned courts really don't really want to get into the he said she said of who is fucking who.

His problem here is that he's hurt and wants revenge but there really is no revenge for something like this, just opportunities to do something dramatic that ultimately hurt himself.  The most important thing when betrayed by someone trusted is to get them out of your life as quickly and completely as you can-- and no revenge plan is compatible with that, any attempt at revenge is going to just prolong his suffering.

Maybe 10 years ago this was possible but right now many divorce attorneys know that some spouses can hid assets in crypto and keep from the divided up assets. If all you had was $1000, then sure, go to some Bitcoin ATM and nobody would find out as long as the Bitcoin ATM didnt KYC.

But if you sell hundreds of thousands of dollars of stocks, send it to your bank and from that bank you send it to an exchange like Coinbase, the lawyers will see all of that. They will know you got crypto assets that you withdrew somewhere.

Just split everything evenly and go on with your life. Not worth moving to Iraq and looking over your shoulder. It happens but at least you are rich unlike most other men. Good luck.

Do what the rich folks are doing.

Search for Bezos or Musk’s prenup agreements or just ask chatgpt to make you one.

Don’t get scammed by gold diggers folks. 1 btc = 1 btc and it ain’t cheap.

Right now chicks are going wild because they know their asset is worth more but if the males get organized and get their shit together we can tip the scales to our advantage.

Remember it is always about supply and demand.

Don’t sign blindly everything they put in front of you just because they have a nice couple of melons hanging in front of them.

Let your brains do the thinking, i know that’s hard and against our biology but we gotta try.

It is all the free men can do.

I am never in favor of leaving the country. Because if you leave the country, you may never be able to return to your country, and you will harm yourself even more. But what I think is, put all your property in the name of a trusted person and when you get divorced, you can write everything back to him. But it is not right to trust everyone. You can do this to someone you think is trustworthy, like if you write all your property in the name of your mother and if you get divorced, your cheating wife will not get anything from your property. Adopt such a method without leaving the country, it will be very good for you.

Obey the law. 20 years is not a short time for a relationship. As long as you're with her, you have rights to her assets.
Prison would be useless if there were no evil people in the world.

If you sell all your assets and want to invest them in Bitcoin in an attempt to prevent your wife from getting any, you're trying to damage Bitcoin's reputation.

This changes nothing.

Marriage doesn't guarantee happiness and so is been single. Be happy that you found out that she is cheating, she's already aware of your assets well written under your name. You can't even deny it. What you should do, file for divorce and go your separate way peacefully and then you may proceed to put your asset into Bitcoin.

Op marriage is for better and for worst, if you know you can't handle Curt marriage why accept it at the first place? Knowing true well that it involves sharing of asset when divorce is involved. You will need to settle her regardless of the crime she comited because you can just get liquidated and run leaving her with nothing. Of course if such case is taking to law you will be in big problem because you didn't report the case to court for the law to take it course. Even if you where right but running away will make it looks like you did it intentionaly, maybe you just needed something that will trigger you to divorce the marriage so that she will not gain anything. What I can only advice you is that even if you are going sell your assets to buy Bitcoin it shouldn't be all. And make sure everything is settled maturely.

When you transfer large amounts of money through a Bitcoin ATM and transfer internationally, you create a documented trail. Every transaction is recorded. The IRS monitors large transactions. Bitcoin exchanges and ATMs have Know-Your-Customer (KYC) requirements. When your wife’s divorce lawyers request financial discovery, they will subpoena your bank records and look at the withdrawals. They will find a pattern. Prosecutors can then charge you with asset concealment, fraud, and possible money laundering. Asset concealment is taken very seriously during divorce proceedings. People have been jailed for asset concealment. You could face not only fines, but years in prison, and once you get to Iraq, you will be considered a fugitive. If you ever travel, you risk arrest and extradition.

 However, if you somehow hide short-term money and it is discovered, it will definitely come out in the investigation and the court can impose severe penalties on you. You will be ordered to pay additional money, lawyer fees and more. You will also lose credibility with the judge, which will damage your entire case. Moreover, living abroad with hidden Bitcoin that you cannot access safely is not freedom. It is a prison of your own making. Now the revenge seems fair and proportionate. But in six months or so, you will see it differently. Getting a fair settlement through the courts, maintaining your freedom and rebuilding your life will feel like a real victory compared to being a fugitive.

In addition, the stock market/platform also have record that OP sold all stock he own and withdraw it somewhere else.


Prenup agreements is something couple make before marriage, so i think you actually talk about postnuptial agreement. But considering what OP told us, i don't think the wife would agree to make postnuptial agreement that benefit OP more (more than 50% asset goes to OP).

OP, you should always think of living a peaceful life and keep your mind free from your past hunting you. You should simply give her half of your property and live happily instead of running because you cannot run forever. What if along the line of you converting your fiat to bitcoin and abscorn to Iraq, a mistake was made that exposed your tracks. What will you do. Don't forget that their must be a record somewhere.

She deserves to get half of your property for everything she has done for you for 20 years if you want to divorce her. That's what the law says and people have done it and it wouldn't stop.

I don't know the church that you're attending, in my church the vow has made you one and even if you caught her cheating she is still your wife and deserves to be treated as your wife. If you want a divorce, you are the one filing for it and not her, therefore, you must give her half of your property. Even if she's the one filling for divorce the same applies. I believe we are all civilized.

Just know that the money might still be tracked, but you have a very good plan which I also support if you are not cheating but your wife is cheating on you. Do as you said, move to your home country.

But if you know she is not having any money or if she is kind of depending on you, just send her some money that comes from your heart. Do not be be too self-centered about it and pity her a bit.

That was more of a general warning to the people. The OP is pretty much ruined financially whatever happens at this point.


I don’t attend any.

I have also never advised him do anything against the law.

Another misunderstanding is that, I know that in divorce assets are split 50/50 but not if the assets were acquired before the marriage. That rule applies only to the assets that were acquired during the marriage.

That means whatever you bought after the marriage will be split 50/50, dividends which you received during marriage regardless of the date of the stock purchase too.

That’s how it is done here in my country and it should be the same in the US.

That means if his wife goes after his personal investments which he made before his marriage as well, then he should be prepared for that. How? By hiring a lawyer.

Again I ain’t no lawyer, and he should definitely hire one.

It is his lawyer against hers at this point he should forget about the rest. I don’t know if going back to Iraq is worth it over this. That’s also his decision.

Edit: I see that they were married for 20 fukkin years.

R.I.P. them assets. 50% divorce tax. Dayum.

That makes my earlier suggestion even stronger. Don’t get married unless you find someone who agrees to a prenup. That’s a financial suicide.

Better yet, first get rich, then get married.

In reality, it’s not a fact that the wife will even dig in or demand half of everything especially if she’s the one initiating the divorce. You can simply create conditions where she agrees to almost anything just to end the marriage. But It to be fair, if she truly was there throughout the entire period when the wealth was earned, then there’s no point in being stingy. After all, everything was built during their shared life together, and it’s not certain that the man would’ve achieved such success if he hadn’t married this woman. It was likely thanks to the environment created in the family that he was able to realize the qualities that helped him become wealthy. Besides, all his skills and knowledge remain with him, if he managed to make money once, he’ll be able to do it again.

This got me rolling on the floor, why are you sounding so pained? Are you a female because you sound like one, very funny, thanks for making me laugh out loud this morning, I needed that.

This move from OP won't damage Bitcoin reputation, you need to calm down a bit, Bitcoin was never made to settle dispute between partners in marriages lol.

How you tend to use bitcoin is your decision, but my advice to OP is to let go, maybe he is the one that did the lady dirty we won't know, the most complicated issue in this life that you should avoid to be the judge is relationship, its very shady.

Start banging chicks right and left while you still can. Make maximum of your "A LOT of money invested" and your age while you still can. And dont divorce her. That will be your punishment. Pay half of what left and be free. Your solution looks like running like coward.

And a lot of people these days have the same problem of their partner stealing from them, which is just crazy. The next thing they want is to divide the wealth, and this particular situation has brought many men down. The problem now is that women are unpredictable and extremely dangerous because of the stories of men catching their wives cheating or their wives wanting to get a divorce because of their wealth.

And the idea of moving your wealth to bitcoin in a cold wallet is one of the best things decision that anyone smart can make because at the ending of the day you will be the one losing even if you confront her of cheating women are always consider first in the society despite what men are going through just make sure any decision you are making should be in your own favor.  because civilization is simply insane. and that is why most men are even putting there investment in there moms name.

You should not run away from the problem, but face it. The rules of all countries are not the same, since you got married, you are obliged to give him some of your wealth. But the percentage to be given is not fixed. What happened to you is very bad and I sympathize with you. Personally, I will never be in favor of sharing wealth with cheaters. But you are obliged to follow the law of the country, you should now discuss with a good lawyer and take advice on what to do. I think, there must be a law against cheaters in a couple relationship, if there is no law then it is definitely unfair. In such a country, it will be very easy to acquire other people's wealth by cheating, especially for women. Even boys will move away from marital relations and lean towards illegal relations.

Unfortunately, this behavior isn't typical for all men. Many who currently support the OP don't know their other half's story. Is everything as fair as the OP claims? I hesitate to ask about twenty years of marriage without children. If there aren't any, then cheating can sometimes be justified, but if there are, then running off with all the property is quite dirty. Twenty years of marriage aren't free for a wife; the man is naturally considered responsible, but the noble solution would be to split the property equally. Furthermore, life has a way of arranging things in a certain order, and this money can vanish without any trace.

I don't think it's possible for you to avoid giving half of your asset when your asset have been record by the government e.g. stock. You've gave your identity and they know how much you invested, it's different if you buy Bitcoin without KYC and you hold in cold wallet.

There's a better way, you have to open something that makes people think you suffer financial difficulty, let's say a fake business, gambling or other thing, but the truth you convert your money in Bitcoin.

Women always been like that, whenever there's a situation where the women make mistake, they either justify that or they trying to find an excuse to blame the men.

I ever heard this, if a man cheat, he only do it for fun. But, if a woman cheat, it mean she loves him.

Maybe you cheat on her too if it is going to make you feel better. Since the assets will be divided by half, at least don’t feel like you got scammed emotionally. Do the same thing hehehe.

But don’t do that recklessly like the other dude advised. Banging chicks left and right will give you herpes eventually. Especially the left ones.

Always wear protection.

Safety first.

Godspeed

I am sorry for your story.

My suggestion is the same as @AprilioMP said: follow the law. It is not all of your money because you are bound in a marriage so your wife deserves that money, even though she is having an affair with a friend. But after you give the money, that is your money and no one can get the money if you don't give it. Let her live with her affair while you can live happily with your money.

Maybe you think it is not fair for you who work hard but trust me, it is not worth it for your future. Half money to her will not stay for a long but half money in your hands can stay for the future because you know how to use that money. You have a dream to invest in Bitcoin so go for it. No need to think about whether it is fair or not. GOD will take care of you.

This story really touches my heart, honestly. I have never experienced it before, but even with the little experience I got from my girlfriend when I caught her cheating on me, I can't even express how painful it was for me at that particular period. Now you caughting your wife cheating,i don't know the kind of pain you  may be going through. All I have to say is.take heart, and quickly find a solution to this so that the situation will not continue causing more pain to you and trying to steal all your joys forever.

If divorce is your option, do it in a proper way: just give her half of your property and let her go her own way, and everyone live in peace while you continue with your new life. Try to be smart  if this is not possible or does not work out for you, be careful: if your wife knows about your wealth it is very possible that, even if you try to sell and convert it to bitcoin, they may do further investigation and you could be caught trying to outsmart the law,and that shouldn't lead you into more problems.

Indeed are funny the people who want the victim to pay money to the perpetrator. You get to be fucked two in this case.  ::) In any case OP you have made a mistake in marrying at all under standard circumstances. The law is biased towards bad people and perpetrators, they often get the better end of the deal in many situations. Since you are going to get divorced, the next time you plan on getting married make sure that you do it with complete asset separation through a prenup. In this way you are forever protected from your spouse no matter what they do and no matter why they do it.

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Nevertheless some of the respondents make good points. You can manage to hide some of your assets by using Bitcoin, or much better, by using Monero. However, you would be committing a crime and you may end up with even more consequences in the future if you are ever found out. Are you sure you want to take this risk?

There are very few people in the world who would be able to pull this off without making mistakes and who would be able to retain the anonymity of those assets for the rest of their lives. You are not one of them. I am not saying that you should do one or the other, that is up to you to decide, but you need to be very careful and think this through before doing anything.

This only happens to amateurs. Unless you have a forensic expert wife, someone who knows what they are doing are able to hide a lot of their wealth forever.

It is too late for OP. Too many people are brainwashed by TV propaganda before they understand how the real world works. Do not ever get married without a prenup, even if you are poor at the time of marriage.

I understand that marriage is a union of two people who are ready, and vowed to support each other in any situation. As a result, if the trust is 50/50, there may not be need to hide assets from a wife. But if there is no trust, then there is need to worry about whether she deserves to know about the assets.

Most wives could be very supportive to their husbands. And some are ready to pull their husbands from top to bottom. Therefore, I am submitting that whether hiding, or exposing asserts to my wife depends on who she really is to me. Do I trust her..? If yes, good! But if no, then keeping my asserts away from her is the option.

Just separate to your wife and use what you find out about here instead of divorcing her upfront and try to getaway with your money from your stock market investments because that money is trackable and it can be a crime if you hide it once the lawsuit comes.

You didn’t mention if you have a child since this crucial too on money you are trying to hide from your wife.

It’s better to confront your wife and talk about your problem instead of running like a coward dog as if you are the one who commit the mistake. Be a man and confront her with her mistake. It’s not your fault so you are not the one that should leave.

It seems you were tired of the marriage and suddenly looking for an excuse to varnish?

Its rare to see a case where a man is filing up for a divorce, you trying to set yourself in a fire that will burn you up more than you think? confront her and fix everything up and stop overthinking,

Now that you know she is having affair with a friend, prepare your amour and register your assets under your moms name, if she get caught and start the divorce, the court should know that all your assets are not yours but owned by your Mother.

For your wife to have started the move of cheating on you, she has left you mentality for long, so don't be surprise if she file for divorce, register all your assets under your moms name before its too late.

It is probably possible to create a trust fund where the only beneficiary is the kid especially if the kid is below 18. (It might be too late for that too)

It is not the full solution you are looking for and that kind of deal is not for everyone as parents’ love for their children… well let’s say it varies. Some love themselves more.

Do you hate your wife (which is a negative number, multiply this by-1) more than you love your kid (a positive number)? Make a comparison and decide. You might add your love for yourself to the equation as well.

Let the numbers do the talking. Maybe you’ll find peace in math.

Regardless of what your spouse does in the end, the situation regarding joint property when you become a couple clearly cannot be taken lightly because even if you file for divorce in any court for the issue of property division during marriage, it is clear that this will definitely happen.

This may seem unfair to you, but regardless you have done certain things because 20 years is certainly not a short time and your spouse has contributed to the finances you have today.
This does not mean that I support infidelity, because that is the most despicable thing a person can do, but in the end, when you still live in a country that has laws, if you want to do what you have written, you will not win when your spouse files a lawsuit against you later.

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Stepping away from the topic, as a fellow man I share your sorrow over what you're going through mate but trust me, this situation won't last forever and you'll find happiness outside of your relationship in the future.

This is the story and the cruelest trial in this world, like a saw being pulled behind a wound and being pulled in front of a wound, everything goes wrong, whoever you are I can only say be patient, everything has wisdom behind what happened to you.

Yes, the solution you want to do is correct.

This method is the most genius and precise, you don't need to bring a suitcase and a bank account, you only need a key to reopen your assets in Iraq, if you need a laptop, You don't need to buy and carry an Android cellphone, when you get to Iraq you just do everything and start with a new life and sell some of your Bitcoin assets.

I agree with your idea, cold wallets, it's safer.

Without any moral or legal advice, the key issue isn't how to "hiding bitcoin" or break the chain of connection between your funds and the Bitcoin from your partner, but how you'll justify the outflow from your bank records.
This plan is certainly easy to read, and you have virtually no chance of avoiding it.

Since your wife is cheating on you, you should always be wary of your wife. Just as your wife may cheat on you in a relationship, she may also be greedy for your physical assets, so you should convert all your assets into Bitcoin and transfer them to a secure cold wallet, keeping it secret and out of your wife's sight. If your wife knows about your Bitcoin and finds out, then of course your wife can steal your wallet or if she steals the security phases of your wallet, she can access your wallet. Be careful, do everything secretly from your wife and since you will be moving to Iraq permanently, you should make arrangements to move to Iraq as soon as possible. If your wife cheats on you, why should you give your share of your property to your wife.

You are that friend my mother told me to be aware of  :D

Why do you want him to cheat when he is still legally married to his wife. Just because somebody you trusted becomes the devil doesn't mean you have to become a hell because of them. You have to live your life and get busy, the simplest thing he can do is let him confront his wife if she hasn't know yet, tell her and show her evidence of cheating and put the divorce papers right infront of her and move on with your life, it's not that simple but for the best.

I bet you never thought of investing your asset into Bitcoin in the first place, if not for your wife fornication you might have not given Bitcoin a shot. Don't take Bitcoin as an asset where you think you can run away form the law. Everything you do is been watch, your asset is coming from the stock which means if you sell there is going to be a track record of how your money flow out of stock market and flow into Bitcoin, do the necessary and be free forever.

Fembois here don't know anything about btc and KYC.   The amount of simps defending the slut wife is mindblowing to me. She dosen't deserve a PENNY FROM YOU ! Get your money out, slowling moving all assets from cash to btc and monero on many wallets trough p2p or real life cash to crypto guys (there are many here all over the world) and then disappear and leave her broke with your broke ass '' friend '' crying for you.  She will be miserable and lonely very soon with 3 cats. DON'T GIVE HER ANYTHING

I haven't experienced the same problems you have with my marriage.
Even if I had, I wouldn't involve Bitcoin in this matter, as it could ruin everything.

If you insist on doing all your assets as you wish by placing them in Bitcoin so that no one else knows and can't get a share, then you're only interested in Bitcoin in a negative context, and you're just showing your true nature, just like those who hate Bitcoin.
Remember: A man is destined to be responsible for what he faces.

How much are we talking about here btw? A couple hundred k’s? A couple mils? Since you are asking advice for something unethical and illegal, it matters in this context.

Some people that act law abiding and ethical might do the exact same thing you are considering when they find out they are about to lose a million usd to a cheating wife.

Juss sayin

I know for sure that you didn't have her sign a prenuptial agreement at the beginning of the marriage, hence why you are looking for fast ways to end the relationship before being half as rich as you are now.
Am confused though, isn't it the wife who should share her wealth with you since you caught her cheating, or you don't have an evidence am sure?  
You know the American popular musician Cardi B, has to split her wealth with offset following him filling for a divorce from her based on cheating/infidelity claims too.

In case you do decide to go ahead with hiding your wealth with  decentralized crypto currency's number one, Bitcoin, you should know the systems are regulated for a purpose, and it is to track down every transactions on an exchange, hence the term 'centralization', upon regulation by government agencies.

Use a cold wallet for storage with key phrases kept intact, like a ledger, but there are other great cold hardware wallets you can use that can be carried around without anyone knowing what it is due to portability and design. Do your own research and be a man.

Erumo must be a teenager or an adult with the mind of a teenager. He gave the most stupid and immature advice of all in this thread. No amount of banging dirty chicks will get back at her for cheating, you will never be able to make this this insult and injury right with any of degenerate behavior.

In most cases it does not work that way. In most jurisdictions you would still need to give he half unless you had a prenup.

She had no prenup and she was the one who was cheating. This situation is the inverse of that. OP is the one who was cheated on.

$3,000,000 USD. Since I married my wife at 25 all this money has been accumulated AFTER I married my wife. Keep in mind I am a simple man and in order to live a good life I don't need anything fancy. I could divorce her the normal way, lose $1.5 million and still be in relatively good shape. But I refuse to give $1.5 million to somebody who betrayed me after 20 years of marriage with one of my closest friends. No way.

Sometimes shit happens in life, and we can't avoid it, but that doesn't mean that we can justify what we do... what we feel is right, is not completely right, especially when we get married we have made a promise to protect, respect, and be loyal to our partner, but if our partner ends up breaking that promise, we have to deal with it like a man. Just give her share. After all, all this time she has supported and accompanied you through various things, just think of it as a return of gratitude, and then you can move on and start a new life.

It was a bit weird for me to see those posts even though I wouldn't write it as harshly as you did. Somehow the idea is that she deserves half your wealth by being married to you even after she betrayed you? What kind of logic is that? Is marriage a business now? Should I stick around with a successful or rich partner in the hopes for a payout one day? None of that makes sense. People who betray the other party should not get anything by default. This would remove the need for many prenups. Solve the root cause of the issue and stop patching it with band aids (prenups).

Stop repeating this generic bullshit. No human deserves anything just for existing. You've been brainwashed by TV propaganda. To deserve something you have to earn it, and one of the ways you earn it is by not cheating.

I'll first note that I am not sure even if giving advice on this is legal or whether it is protected by first speech. You're feelings are understandable and I would not leaving anything to a cheating spouse (but I am protected by contracts in any case). I would not even leave them a $1 even if it meant they would end up homeless.

That said, you must think about your situation before taking action. I know that you are fuming but the longer you can hold out and think about this in a deep way the likelihood of coming out of this situation in the best possible way increases significantly. Your primary problem is that your assets are already in your name, there is already a trace. This will nullify the chances for some ideas that bad posters here have had.

1. Any massive selling of assets before a divorce is suspicious and they can be still traced.
2. Any massive liquidation of assets into cash before a divorce can still be considered suspicious. Even if they don't know what you did with the cash (say you've put it into Monero anonymously), they can still make claims on it.
3. Any kind of transfers, gifting and other movements that happen shortly before divorce proceedings will be looked at. Courts look at intent and timing. They must under no case be able to prove that your intent was to hide this money.

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This is a general overview of pretty much all of your legal options.
1. Transfer of assets to a family member of your mother or father. Caveat: You will have to stay married to this cheating spouse and pretend to be happy for many more years (at least 2-3) years. States have limitations on voiding transfers, ask your local lawyer about this.
2. Postnup agreement. Caveat: If this was never a discussion topic before your wife may see this as a sign of discovered infidelity and all your plans will be ruined.
3. Irrevocable trusts. Caveat: You have to stay married for several years for any chance for this to work.
4. Equitable Distribution. If you live in a state that has this then you could give up and hope that this ends up with a good deal. Caveat: long marriage leans towards more equal distribution plus adultery is not judged for this.
5. Divorce settlement. There are still honorable and humble people in this day and age and they wouldn't even ask 10% of that money. However, since she cheated then I don't think it is likely that she won't demand a lot but you know her best. Caveat: If you start any talks in this direction all the legal (except equitable distribution) and illegal methods can not be used anymore.

Your chances are not good because the assets are already in your name. You can talk to local lawyers and they can advise you more specifically on this. All other methods are illegal and will involve you committing a crime (fraud). You will have to hide it successfully for the rest of your life. If you ever somehow fail then you will pay even more than this 50% with a bonus of prison time.

They involve things such as fake stock market losses (there are companies that will gladly assist with this, even fully regulated ones, fraud is widespread in the regulated area despite what the government wants you to believe), massive crypto investments followed by fake losses, fake hacks, fake loss of private keys/access to funds, all kinds of things are possible. I can't give advice on any of them in particular, nobody should because they are crimes!

Be careful in any case, this is a no win situation :-\. People may also approach you because you publicly confirmed to be wealth. They may offer services for helping you with this and they are most likely going to be scammers. Do not respond to private messages about this.

I think wherever you live, there's this balance in the divorce and we're all obliged to give the former partner/s the fair share that they deserve. While it's really giving you that revengeful thought of doing this, what if it's reversed to you and she's the one who's worked her life and you're the one cheated on her? I think that it will be a different case and you'd realized that it's unfair.

Sure, that's a lot of money and I think that you're thinking that it's her new partner and your friend that will just enjoy the money that you've worked hard for. Let the courts decide on this but I think that you already had a glimpse of that decision.

Hey man!
I am not here to give you a legal advice but to encourage you in a positive way.

• In order not to make it so suspicious, you can try and hide $2M in bitcoin and have both of you share $1M.
• If you sell your stocks, by BTC in a DEX like Bits. Ensure you hide your IP.
• Send it to your wallet, then send your BTC in parts to a reputable mixer.
• From the mixer to a cold wallet as you mentioned (output the mixer to 3 different cold wallets)
• File for bankruptcy because of bad business and your lawyer can help you here
• Or skip the previous step and file for divorce and have your remaining $1M shared
• Then relocate to Iraq

If you can't do the above, forgive her then  ???

That would not be a different case. In that case he is the one who doesn't deserve anything.

That's exactly what would happen. In most cases even of alimony the cheating spouses spend it on their new lovers and themselves and not on the children. The data on this is documented. The more alimony besides basic expenses is paid the worse the situation. The legal system is biased towards perpetrators in order to preserve societal stability. It is very wrong.

Don't write this bullshit. This would lead to an arrest since the assets are in his name. You can't hide them this way, and "bad business" is a generic term that does not work in the legal system.

If he's willing to abandon the place where he lives and move to a non extradition country then his solution is easier but he would be a wanted criminal for life if she starts proceedings against him.

From my perspective this is not a big deal if only you’re not interested, I don’t know the exact reaction when op found about the situation and it sounds like everything is centered about money. Protecting your asset should be the main aim if a second option like divorce comes up, everyone will act same way but don’t let your emotions lead your thought viewing how you plan on selling stock investment then put everything in bitcoin.
The idea is still not the case, for a fact the court have every details they can still find another means but, that’s not the point, I’m not in the right position to advise concerning such matter neither resolving the issue or not. I’m sure you’ve heard the story of Hakimi, how he legally registered every asset in his mother's name although don’t practice this when you don’t trust anyone to that extend, many claimed this story is fake yet this is an idea how to handle such situation.

Did you read when I said he should involve a lawyer? The law is not one and every law has a loophole. A sound lawyer can help him there.
If you read the Op, you would have seen where he stated that he's willing to relocate. How will he be a wanted criminal? Well, different countries have different laws but in the global scene, a divorcée is not a criminal.

It's either you have never been married or you have not experienced a heart break. OP is hurt, his feelings is justified from the way he present his own side of the story. You don't hurt people emotionally and expect them to be the same. In case you don't know, there are some men that does all the work, they don't alow their woman to work and do all the provision, everything they do with their time is either they spend it with the family or they spend it making money for the family and then one day you realize the person you are doing it for isn't worth the effort you have been wasting? Common, cut me some slack.

There are different court proceedings, hopefully his mom is alive to do this before divorce like Hakimi did, though not everything that was reported about Hakimi that happen in court that were reported. Make sure to look for best lawyer close to you. Don't believe everything that are advice online. Most of us here hadn't experienced this kind of case but if you need help about Bitcoin related, maybe after the divorce and everything is settled, then let's talk Bitcoin.

Willingness to relocate is not the same as willingness to be a criminal for the rest of his life, but yes I have missed forgotten that part of the post due as I've focused on reading the horrible replies. Because this is such extreme behavior and would make him a criminal for the rest of his life, it is worth emphasizing the consequences and warning him several times! It is most likely that he is not in a right state of mind and thus any conclusions that he is making are flawed.

You can see in this example that his thoughts are very wrong. He currently thinks that stealing $1.5M from a creditor (his future ex-wife) is a small thing. They don't need to track him down, they only need to put him on the wanted list. If he wants to stay in Iraq for the rest of his life, hidden away somewhere, then yes that would work. If he wants to live a normal life and travel to some beautiful countries this plan will backfire badly.

Hiding any assets from a spouse with intent is criminal. You are defrauding a potential creditor. It does not matter where you move to. You will be sued in the USA and you will be a wanted person. He will be a criminal by default, there is no country in the world that you can go to that would change this (non extradition countries would not hand you over but that does not change the fact that you are a wanted criminal). Once you cross this line there is never going back. It is a very extreme suggestion.

Yeah, he has to put his shoe if it's the other way. But I also understand his pain but he shouldn't do what his wife did to him, and that's to cheat as well through his plan.

I agree, that the system is wrong and it favors the other side. And that's why even if the courts decide on this, we know what will happen. But if he's got to put his trust to the court and judge and appeals it through the process, who knows if the verdict will be in favor of him. That's why because there were cases like his and their ex-wives didn't get anything from their husband's wealth but has to do child support.

Pleasantly surprised to see the comments talking against your plan. I am sure that you also will get something out of her. You married her and it’s unfortunate it’s gone like this but you can’t escape the law. You are bound by the law and you have to comply to the conditions you agreed years ago when you decided to marry her.

My question is did your wife actually cheat on you by having an affair or were you the one who was cheating on her and got caught? And you want to hide assets and don’t want to share any of them with the partner you’ve lived with for 20 years?

No offense but there is no guarantee that your story is true and you were the victim in your marriage. So in this case I don't think bitcoin is the solution but instead you should let the law intervene and handle it. It would be fairer for both of you.

As far as I know, if you have full evidence of your wife's adultery and it seriously affects your family, work and life. The court will rule in your favor, the property will not be divided equally as you think but will be divided more to the damaged party (you). 

I was going to suggest divorce, until I read


Firstly I think you should contact a divorce lawyer for legal advice on this subject, since if there is ever custody battles over your assets, seeing as you apparently don't have a prenup agreement, then an attorney that finds your coins would be able to include them in the settlement.

Off-shore solutions such as "investing" all of that money into a corporation or business might also be worth looking at.

At any rate, it doesn't sound like you are happy. You gotta cut the deadwood out of your life eventually.

If your wife cheats you, then after knowing it, you will definitely try your best to protect your assets. But you should know the matter very well. Because if there is a mistake in this concern, there is a possibility of big losses for that mistake, especially from the family relation. So you must think carefully before taking such a decision. If your idea is right, then you have accepted Bitcoin to protect your assets, it is a good decision and will help you keep your assets safe and have the possibility to increase that asset in the long run. In this fact you can get direct legal help in taking such a decision.

There is nothing wrong with being angry and upset that cheating spouse will still take off with big chunk of your money, but in most places, law of divorce does not use cheating in splitting money, so judge will not care why marriage ended. Due to this legal fact, first step that is right is to hire divorce lawyer who can tell you just how your Bitcoin are treated by your local laws. Hiding money by moving it offshore or into company or Bitcoin is very wrong and is against law and punishment is big, which is usually taking of 100% of hidden money by spouse. You should be totally open in all your money. So staying in bad marriage, only to keep part of your cash, can in most cases be more hurtful to you than loss of money, and so focus on you and let your lawyer do legal work.

I will suggest that you confront your wife and discuss things out with your wife. Holding grudges against your wife which she is not even aware is not a good thing to do.i will say that if you sell your house and investment and run away to another country it will not be a good thing to do because people will even see you as the bad one because that is what your wife will tell them.contronting your wife with evidence is the best thing to do in this case if you really want to protect your properties and money because when people finds out about the truth your wife will not have the moral right to ask for your money when you file for devoice. If you are interested in Bitcoin then you should just go ahead and start investing in it but you should not use crisis between you and your wife to come into Bitcoin.

Cheating during the marriage would not help him at all. However, he no longer owes her anything. He merely needs to wait for the divorce to happen and then he can do whatever he wants.

People of all classes regularly escape the law, especially the rich. This is not true. I would not recommend committing a crime but that is not a reason to write a biased and untrue post on it. We need to try to remain objective.

It is possible but all the legal advice stays the same. All the available legal methods are the same in both cases, and the illegal ones are always available to those that want to commit crimes.

No. You are writing superficial posts that are not true. There are extreme differences between various jurisdictions on how this is handled. In many cases even if your wife cheated she will get 50% if you go for a divorce. Even in states that have at fault laws for divorce sometimes the cheating does not have a significant or any impact on the division of property.

This is a serious offense, but don't take the law into your hands and allow the low to prevail. Op, you don't have to divorce your wife since the law is strict in your country. And I am advising you to live with her under the same roof. And don't eat her food because she might kill you and marry her love for a while. Call her family members (kinsmen) and yours in your wife's presence and tell them the truth. If you hide them, people will still find out later.

While I do understand the pain of your situation, you cannot circumvent the law in paying half of your assets which is entitled to your wife.

Remember that in the years that you are with her, all of you contributed towards the community property for the benefit of all. While you can argue that you brought more assets in terms of money and property, your wife also contributed in terms of helping the family in chores, etc.

Again, the purpose of BTC would be freedom of external control for our finances. If you use cryptocurrencies to circumvent any law in your favour, then you are contributing towards its negative perception in the public. In other words, you are destroying the image of BTC for your sole benefit and circumvention of the law.

Take this time to cool-off and reflect your life. Money isn't about everything- divorce her and undergo all the legal procedures. After that, take that time to invest more into cryptocurrency by doing it the right way.

You have made an important point. This characterless relationship of the OP's wife must be discussed with other family members, otherwise who knows when an undesirable situation will arise? It could even be that they live under the same roof, meaning they could poison the food and kill it and run away with their lover. It is important to discuss the matter very soon otherwise the wife may bring about a bad situation. Also, another suggestion for the OP is to do all financial transactions very secretly so that she does not steal the money and run away with her lover.

Yes, it won't help him and I don't think his wife wouldn't wife doing that as well as revenge. But it's the best thing he has to do now, as what's suggested to him, consult a divorce lawyer and that's going to cost him money but at least he's going to have the right battle and going through the process to do whatever he can after it.

This thread has been very interesting reading through comments which most are centered on advicing OP against selling off his assets and converting the stash into Bitcoin. I understand how OP feels being betrayed by his own wife, I know it must be very painful and nobody will be happy to split the wealth that they personally built with a cheating wife in a divorce. By law everything one person owns in a marriage belongs to the two people in the marriage but what does no longer belong to a partner in a marriage cannot be shared in a divorce. I'm not knowledgeable about divorce cases but I think that your advice for him to gift his trusted family members some of his assets can reduce what he will share with his wife in a divorce. Later they can gift him back after the divorce.

I have heard of this kind of law existed in the western countries but here we don't have such laws. We don't need to give half our assets, instead what we pay is called alimony, an amount that is usually determined at the time of marriage.

That aside, I have but a pure curious question (certainly not an financial question).

Have any of you heard of PSG Footballer Achraf Hakimi and his wife's divorce case? (https://graziamagazine.com/me/articles/achraf-hakimi-hiba-abouk-divorce/) He is one of the highest paid player and when he and his wife got divorced he paid nothing. It was found that he had nothing under his name. All his belongings, assets were under his mother's name. So the wife didn't get any settlements. Do we call that a genius trick or not?

Now given OP's situation, what do you all think! Can this be pulled off? Or this needed to be done from the very start and all assets cannot be transferred at this moment. I have heard another famous person made a similar approach recently. Of course I am unaware of the law and regulations of where OP lives. So this is only a theoretical question.

I would say if you have to hide your assets from your wife, then you have bigger trouble in life. You should not be hiding away from your wife, my wife knows exactly how much I make, to the cent ,and I know the same from her. There is no reason why we should be considering this as an issue, it should not be a problem and you should be able to share it. If you need to hide it then that marriage is not one that should last.

It's of course none of my business to tell you how you should live, if you want to do this then the best way would be putting it in some exchange or have some hardware wallet like ledger. If she asks what that is, then it depends on how much she understand from technology, tell her that it's something for work, and some files, and if she believes that then it's fine (do have backups just in case).

Hello there. I am a long time lurker, never intended to create an account, but i just did so i can reply to this. sorry if i make any mistakes english is not my first language

I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU SHOULD PROTECT YOUR ASSETS FROM HER.

-you don't know for how long she has been cheating
- in a lot of countries, including the one i live in, she wouldnt get a cent if you can prove what she did
-the government should not me able to force you to give HALF YOUR ASSETS/LIFES WORK for someone who did not honored you.
-all the people replying to you are basically saying: you should comply by her actions because she spent 20 years by your side. but they fail to understand that this "social contract" is void the moment she cheats, i think honestly thius is quite obvious. 

what i would do: sell the part you wanna protect from your portfolio ( most of it ), buy btc in descentralized exchange ( bisq) , and let the divorce split the rest, they will think this is all you have since you "lost everything you sold in gamble". in get to stay in your country with your hidden wealth still with you

No need to lie to the court. Cheating is punished rather than rewarded, and you'll have to be sure it's part of marriage contract, assuming you are Christian or recognizes that in you belief.
And Bitcoin allows you to take full control of your assets, you don't have to worry about it getting seized if you didnt really wrong anyone by not sharing the coins with the wrong person.
You don't need to hide your bitcoins from the court/law, by the way. Just let them know you don't share it with the wrong person, possibly while in Iraq. This gives the Bitcoin additional layer of security, by using a Just law to protect the coins from an exploitative law, probably while you're already in a country that recognizes this fact. You could use Iraqi court to establish this, if possible.

So no need to hide your bitcoins from the court, it would mean lying to them when they ask about your assets. Just let them know the bitcoins can't be shared when a marriage contract that allows an asset to be shared has been broken.

This is all I can share with you rather than teaching you how to lie to a court

Are you really going to compare your life with his? Your wife is cheating? My wife and I have a great relationship and we share expenses blah blah...

Stop trying to fix his marriage guys. We don't know the situation at all just that she cheated and he wants out. Telling him to talk to her and make things right is like telling an addict to stop being addicted.

If you want to sell all your assets and run with bitcoin you can, just remember that there are some things that could go wrong.
For instance, countries cooperate. If you run and she knows what's up, she will sue you and since you're out of the country you won't even come to court and she will win. The court will make you indebted to her, so if you decide to buy a house somewhere in your name, that's going to be a public record that she can access and file a claim. You're in your 40s. Are you going to keep running for the rest of your life?

I have read too many replies from this thread saying that the woman truly deserves half the wealth of the OP, I am not a fan of such treatment, don't get me wrong because i also don't suggest for him to run away like he planned, this case can be judged in two ways, if the woman had contributed to the creation of him building wealth upto the level he mentioned, then she deserves a share based on her contribution, unfortunately, the law pushes it to half he owns which is unfair to me. 

Secondly, I blame the legal laws, you can't beat the system so you have to face it. It was all your choice which you needed to put into consideration, but if you're going to be smart then do what you have to.

You don't need to do that analysis because splitting was their contract. Anyone arguing for him to short change her is arguing for him to not honor his contract because he doesn't like how it turned out.  There was no mystery when they went into the marriage that if they split assets would get split up, even if a party cheated. -- what if he'd been the cheater? Do you think he'd voluntarily yield all the assets to her?  No. (If he would-- why doesn't he confront her to find out if she will?)  In that case he'd want to stick to the contract (or even come up with an excuse as to why he should still get everything).

The issue in this thread isn't the cheating -- which sucks-- but OP's dishonorable conduct.

I'm happily making a mental note of all the commenters that are unsafe to trade with.

That is when she deserves to be given half he owns. The contract would be better if only the man has to give half he owns when he faults the marriage, a defaulter getting huge benefits off the complier.

Contract is contract and that is the rule of every contract, it was all signed by both parties, yes the man will have to share in half after divorce, but to me it is unfavorable to my conduct. I wouldn't get into the contract in the first place or go in without a prenuptial agreement.

This is a very sad thing, especially since your wife is having an extramarital affair with someone else. This is not in a position to comfort you mentally. Still, I would suggest you to resolve the matter as a family and bring your wife back on the right path. Give your wife enough time and try to understand her. Maybe she has seen something wrong in you due to which she is addicted to another man. In this situation, it is not reasonable for you to go to Iraq, rather you will bring your wife back on the right path, that is the right decision and the natural process. You can hold your Bitcoin anywhere you want or you can make any investment according to your plan, but you could not bring your wife under your control, this is your failure.

That is actually a tough and painful situation to be in. Dealing with something like that can really mess with a person emotionally. I agree that trying to resolve things as a family is a good step, but it’s also important to make sure you’re protecting your own peace of mind. Sometimes, understanding what went wrong can help, but it doesn’t always mean you’re to blame. Relationships is not as easy as so many people see it as, and it takes effort from both sides to make things right. As for the investments or plans like Bitcoin, those can wait, your emotional well being should come first before making any decisions.

It is not wise to advise anything that’s against the law in a public forum no matter what you think about this. I too think betrayal needs to have a price tag  but if that’s agreement the OP signed 20 years ago, he should honor it.

Getting married is no joke and it is indeed a business. Some folk up there asked a question if marriages are a business, yes they are.

Think it like 2 corporations having a merger. That’s what a marriage is.

If you fail to honor the contract, you are pretty much stealing from your partner company. It is almost the same as maxxing out your credit cards and leaving the country. You might get away with it but it makes you a thief according to the law.

Op this very idea is extremely ridiculous, you don't endangered  yourself.Marriage has never be a persuasion but conceptional, the terms and conditions to Court marriage is clear it's never mandatory, in my country it's not, except European nations. If you have chosen the terms on the marriage while do otherwise, seeking to hide all your assets to the knowledge of your wife shows zero love and care, this really signifies that the marriage was not conceptional but persuasion.

Op don't forget in a hurry that the consequences of breaching a contract may be more deadly than you think because there will be no claim of ignorance on already signed documents by you. If you have said few assets I would have seen it as human nature but hiding all is a sign of lack of love and greed, advising you to carry on such act is dangerous.

The side discussion here is that this default contract and divorce laws are terrible in almost every location on the planet. They are biased towards one side, but this has economic reasons for it. I wonder how divorce rates would change if one would get nothing if they cheat or otherwise deeply betray their partner. Perhaps there would be much fewer marriages to begin with.

None of his options are good as I have detailed in an earlier post. Neither legal or illegal. This is why you always marry with complete asset separation if you want to marry for love, even if it ends up being transient. No matter what happens down the road between the two of you, neither partner can scheme against the other one for malicious purposes relating to assets. You also have to keep in mind that a lot of people come from countries where contract law is very weak and many of them haven't really encountered any contracts in their lives except the usual (work, marriage, wills).

That is the point. Your best and fairest chance is having a good marriage contract. Then whatever happens you won't need to break the contract or worse become a criminal. With a good contract if you want revenge after being betrayed you can just simply walk away with all your assets. The story could be as simple as that, but people watch too many romantic movies on TV instead of educating themselves. On the other hand, while this is not his fault you can see it as him trying to escape his own responsibility. He made the mistake of marrying this way and now he wants to escape the consequences of his actions (divorce). What triggered the divorce is not necessarily relevant to the argument of responsibility.

Unfortunately, even proving adultery doesn't interfere with the division of assets, at least here in Brazil. Revenge isn't the best solution; just expose what you know to her and get it over with, brother. It will be the best decision of your life; leave this relationship and move on. I know it's difficult, it's sad, but dwelling on this kind of thinking will only hurt you. Even if you run away, you'll still be married to her, and in the end, the tables will turn against you...

Be a true man and uphold your sense of responsibility in carrying out your duties and the law.

Twenty years is not a short time, and during those 20 years, you were able to build a fortune, thanks to your wife's blessing and the rights God has given you. I understand your disappointment, and I think any man would. You need to know that in long-standing marriages, many wives have affairs without their partners' knowledge, and you should be grateful you found out.
My advice: Accept it with an open heart. If you feel hurt, try to talk it out with your wife to find a solution. If you still need to reconcile, that's up to you. If not, resolve it amicably and give her her due. Because we never know, maybe you'll find someone better, or maybe you'll become richer with your new partner.

If you scared of your wife , hiding the password is not the best option, remember death can heat anyone at anytime,think about this ,show her the password encase of any mis fortune

It's very heartbreaking to see that you wasted 20 years in marriage with someone that doesn't deserve it, but the only question I have for you is, have you secretly cheated on your wife before in the past? If your answer is No then it is very unfair to you as a faithful partner. But I don't think divorcing her and giving her half of your assets is a bad thing though, she has been in the marriage with you for two decades and I'm sure there are sacrifices that she has made for you along the line so I think you should pay her off with half of your assets and have your peace and live your life.

What law? The law is not equal in every country, so telling him how to hide his assets might be punished in one part of the world and completely ignored by authorities in another.

Yes, it more or less makes him a thief, but that's what he's willing to live with. It's a matter of ethics, I suppose. In his view his wife cheating and him stealing makes it even.

There is a big difference between your wife's age and yours as you mentioned here you are 45 years old and your wife is 20 years old this age difference is becoming a reason for divorce between you and your wife. Any person should get married keeping a certain age limit your wife is more than half younger than you due to which despite you having a lot of money your wife is not happy with you she may have got involved in a relationship somewhere else to be happy. Here you can talk to your wife and clear the matter if your wife wants to be with you then you should discuss it with her and if she does not want to be with you then you should still discuss it with her and resolve it.

Here your wife is the owner of your property like you, she has full right to enjoy the property like you. However, if you want to divorce her, then you must give her some of your property and if you can solve the problem with her by talking to her, then you can live happily. However, I think it is better to clear the matter between the two of you and solve the problem because when a person is explained, he will definitely understand.

Here you should not cheat on your wife like this because if you want to convert your entire property into Bitcoin, you can definitely convert it into Bitcoin and you can travel anywhere with your Bitcoin without any problem, but if you do this, you will be cheating on your wife.

There are many issues that can cause a woman to have an affair, it could be an unhappy marriage or her husband having another woman outside. Or maybe it was all her fault. We are not insiders and cannot know exactly what happened to them. So we should not just listen to one side and rush to judge without knowing the truth behind it.

In this case, in my opinion, the best way is to let the court and the law handle it. I don't support OP's idea of ​​trying to embezzle all the money the two of you built together. Regardless of who is right or wrong, his wife certainly contributed a lot to that fortune and she deserves a small share.

Your wife's mistake of cheating cannot be tolerated, in this situation she has betrayed you, clearly this behavior is unacceptable. However, wanting to hide or run away with all your assets is also not the right decision because he also has the right to some of your assets based on the age of marriage which has reached 20 years.
Anger has made you think narrowly, isn't it true that all this wealth you have acquired is due to his help and support, so let him have what is rightfully his and invest the rest in Bitcoin. Be a wise person in making decisions and managing finances for the future. If you have been interested in Bitcoin for a long time, why are you only now starting to invest? This clearly indicates that you want to run away with all assets that are under joint ownership. In my country, this is against the law.

Giving her half of your total money seems to be unfair but she lived with you for 20 years. You can search for the money after you divorce and I am sure you will get more than what you gave to your wife. No need to think about whether it's fair or not because that is your wife with you who has shared many things for years. So it is better to follow the law and all things needed because after that, you can use your money to get more than before. That is just a suggestion but if you feel that is not right for you and you want to use the other advice, that will be up to you.

There is a high chance of making wrong if you do anything in anger. So first you have to calm down and take a good decision on the whole matter. You may get angry at your wife's actions, but the more you are strategic at this time, the more you will be able to get out of trouble. If you understand that your wife is cheating, then you should also keep the proof of it. Only running away will indicate a kind of crime because you have not yet taken legal action regarding her cheating. If she cheats, then whatever happens according to the law is better. You should not do anything that goes beyond the law.

I like your way of thinking. So far, everyone on this post has been supporting the husband to be man enough and divorced her which is not bad but we have only heard one side of the truth. There may be more in his marriage that is not disclosed. I know human beings can't be trusted 100% but someone that you profess to can't change one day and start cheating, there must be something the husband was doing before that he is not doing again, until we hear her own side of the story before we can judge her marital home.

If you have a cheating spouse and you have a divorce on your mind, it's going to be painful to see that you are going to give half of your asset to them and when you have children especially females that are not 18 years old yet, you will have to provide for their custody and support until they are age of 18 before you can decide whether they can stay with you or not.

The husband really thinks that it's a safe practice to hide his investment in Bitcoin, but as far as he is going to sell his assets, there is going to be evidence of transaction about his investment, it can be prove in court if they found out. What is going to happen if the court find out he has been lying if that is finds out, not going to be funny.

The main issue is that 50-50 asset division garbage in marriages and it needs a fix. If the husband contributes much more to the family funds then his share needs to be bigger proportionally.

A low earning wife (or a husband) has a big advantage here. It is like they are owning half of the company even though they contributed 20-30% (if that) to their equity.

It is a scam and people have no idea what they are signing.

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What we need is a separate company that is responsible for the family expenses. Every family needs to start one and whatever money the parents deposit, they need to know that they’ll be getting only the half in case of a divorce.

Every other saving needs to stay personal under their own name and nobody needs to pay anything to the other party from their own personal funds when a divorce occurs.

Right now every earning from both husband and wife is considered family funds and that’s bullshit. People don’t lose their personal life when they form a family.

If he runs away from home without divorcing his wife, he will be doing a very wrong thing. For now, he should either end the relationship or seek a solution through the guardians of both parties. If you leave the country without ending the relationship or getting a divorce, there are many things your wife can do if she files a case against you and your passport may be cancelled. In this case, you will be arrested by the immigration police and brought back to the country, and you will have to face a difficult legal situation.

@gmaxwell I am calling you out because what you contributed on this topic has got me thinking so much, I wish there is a way to know if you are a male or a female, it would have help even better.

Have you ever seen where ladies intentionally go into marriage and relationship solely for what you have? knowing fully well that they would cheat on you and you will never know? But if you find out they are so sure that they aren't leaving empty handed? Many of them had this planned all along, men are the ones that love unconditionally.

I don't even care if you are a male or female, I am  still going to say what I want, I hope your household is full of male children from you and your partner and I pray that those ladies come into their lives and pretend to love them all for this end game.

Was Sex enjoyable only by man? All those times they spent together that man did nothing for her? She can't work and have good things to her name? I doubt you are a man, and if you are then I  sure you must be raising your daughters as bitches.

This is not a way to proof a tough man, go and serve your country in the military where you can die at any moment and leave your wife at home, this is called been a man, and imagine you come back home to see that your wife cheated on you still.

I understand the situation, but don't be rash, even if you have the initiative and it's considered natural that the plan will eventually be discovered. Remember, crypto isn't a traceless or anonymous "black hole." Many people now understand how to track blockchain-based transaction flow, and if caught, it could add two more problems to your life.

If you're not comfortable, just choose a safe route. After reviewing everything you've written and the evidence that proves the incident is real, I think there will be good and legal action. Yes, of course, there are costs involved in making this happen. Make it legal and legal, and I think that's the safest way.

We all have secrets from our spouses, but I’m a supporter of a shared budget. It’s very unhealthy when partners don’t trust each other and try to hide their assets. If there are any doubts, it’s better to sign a prenuptial agreement where both can outline their concerns, but it should always be done by mutual consent.Otherwise, such a relationship is doomed to a sad ending even before it begins.

Yet another place where the laws are not good.

Don't write nonsense like this as it is not true. This has nothing to do with being a man, any duties or any gods. The only part that is true is that he contractually owes his wife 50% because of his prior naivety.

Existing and doing cleaning or cooking is not a sacrifice though.  ::) You can't be sure that she has contributed anything significant to this, and most definitely 20 years of average sacrifice or work does not earn you $1.5M.

No, you didn't understand him. His wife is not 20 years old, they have been married for 20 years.

He is a male, this is easy to find out.

I am pretty sure that he is aware of this, but what about it? There are many people always trying to cheat and intentionally defraud others. You will encounter many of these in your life. It is your own responsibility to protect yourself from them, the current laws are not very well designed to help with many cases. In this particular example that you have written you can see it as the failure of the husband to protect himself on time through a prenup. I hate cheaters as much as anybody but that does not change the fact that the person themselves has made a grave mistake here for whatever reason. Never get married without a prenup. It solves most problems ahead of time.

Did someone cheat on your and he touched upon a nerve? What is this supposed to be?  ::)

Lmao this whole situation is wild  ! ! I understand both sides very well. yeah  he cheated, and its definitely messed up. But I will say trying to nuke your whole life just to win is not true revenge bro. You have to understand that Bitcoin is about freedom &  sovereignty, it was not created to run away from legal shit. Remember, if you go all rogue, neither exchanges nor ATMs will be able to save you. In todays information technology era they track that stuff heavily.

@GmaxwelI is right about this, you are actually locking yourself in a bigger cage. In my opinion, you should accept this loss, handle this matter more clearly, try to rebuild yourself. Always remember that your success will be your real revenge dude..

always remember watching you level up stress-free is the thing what could burns that cheater more, LoL... :D :D

You know the law of your country very well, so since you already understand your wife's behavior and since you are thinking about divorce, you can do whatever you can according to the law of your country to protect your wealth. Many countries have rules that women get 50% or 80% of their husband's money after divorce. If this is the case in your country, you can first transfer your money to your mother's or other family member's account, and if you get a divorce, your money will be protected. If the divorce rules are such that the amount of money that was fixed at the time of marriage is to be given to the wife at the time of divorce, then there is no point in worrying so much about your money. Give the fixed amount of money to your wife and divorce her.

Actually I really loved what you stated, but you saying transferring your assets to your mum before going for a divorce is illegal and can be a major crime and has penalties for it, during a divorce all assets are needed to be disclosed from both spouses including bitcoin or any other crypto.
If you hide or transfer assets during divorce can result for court to work in her favour, you could be fined and even lose the entire assets.
Even if your spouse hurt you so badly, the court wouldn't feel the emotional wrongdoing instead clearly penalise you for hiding your assets which is not legal.

I don't think this is the best solution. When you buy Bitcoin, you have to move your money through your bank account, so when you get into legal action, checking your bank statement will definitely raise questions. And when you buy crypto from a centralized exchange, you will definitely use your identity document, so if crypto is legal in your country, then your government or administration can take that information from the exchanger that how much Bitcoin you bought and withdrew it. So you should first consult a lawyer to see how you can protect your assets from this situation according to the laws of your country.

I don't know where are you from. Even then you are from USA then there is different law in different state about the divorce. But it is true that even your wife has cheat on you she will get half of your assets on the divorce.
Although I find this law somewhat injustice, I still don't think you should involve yourself in anything illegal in order to get revenge. Because it will have a bad impact on your life later. But if you want to spend the rest of your life with your cousins, that is a different matter, then in that case you should divorce him and follow the decision according to the law, then you will not have to face any legal issues later.

Get divorced and follow what the law says. If it is said to give half of your money to your wife, then do it. At least, after a divorce, you gain freedom and can start building wealth again.

It sounds unfair to give it to your wife. But don't get too disappointed because it was better to live in a place where you're not bothered anymore and stress-free. Sad to say, but the exchange of real happiness is quite expensive.  Even the divorce process costs a lot of money. This is just a piece of advice, and you have the decision of whether to consider what the law says or disagree.

This support doesn't equate to her financially contributing half of OP's assets. :) How can one claim 50% if, for example, the partner has contributed 0-10% to the shared assets throughout their life?

How are things handled in business? If the partner violated the terms of the agreement (in this case, infidelity), then there can be no talk of an equal division.

In general, OP should have drawn up a prenuptial agreement.

To claim half, you need to financially "invest" HALF into the overall budget. Otherwise, it's like stealing.


You should have thought about it earlier and prepared in advance by diversifying your risks, i.e., buying different assets. Now, when you sell stock market shares, you'll be forced to share these funds according to your country's laws (one way or another, these funds will be deposited into your bank account, which will be visible to regulators). If you don't, you'll be in violation. Also, you're planning to leave your country. Consider whether you're really ready for such a life-changing change.

Theoretically, you could exchange your assets on bitcoin and transfer them to another country, as this financial instrument allows for this.

If you have a big sum, you'll have to spend a considerable amount of time exchanging them at BTC-ATMs. It's much easier to use exchange offices that offer big cash exchanges (there is a well-known exchange aggregator). But again, this requires physical exchange, which is also quite risky (despite the reliability of the exchange services).


I'm sure this topic will create a lot of controversy. :)

I understand how you feel right now: hurt, sad, and disappointed, but let's think about it more clearly before taking any action. This action could truly bring you down even further, and it's not without reason. Even if your partner cheated, they still have the right to the assets you currently own, as per the law. Accept your defeat and get back up. Happiness awaits you.

That is bad advice and shows he is ignorant of matrimonial law, pre-marital and post-marital property are completely different. If OP transfers all the money to a relative's account, it will be useless and may even make him a criminal for trying to hide joint assets under marriage law.

@OP, I don't know how much of your story is true. But I think that the act of appropriating all the joint property between you and your wife is illegal and you will pay for your actions if you continue to do so. I also don't think Bitcoin can help in this case because every Bitcoin transaction is recorded publicly on the blockchain and anyone can track it. It's not as anonymous as you think.

But this is also bullshit, it's like saying the director of sales of a company should get 95% of the companies value because they brought in the business while someone running business operations should get little because they were just a cost center.  Contribution to success includes things far beyond walking in the door with the money.

Maybe 50/50 isn't the right split, but all the things OTHER than bringing in a paycheck are also very valuable and even essential to your life.  If you marry it should be with someone who you feel contributes more or less equally to your shared life and success.

And if you're roughly equal even if not exactly 50/50 then 50/50 is still a very good split because it balances risk/fairness and minimizes envy.  Consider that even if a impartial observer thought the contribution to their joint success was 45/55 both parties might feel they contributed 60%.   Rather than screw around with some other division which you can't really predict in advance -- better to settle on 50/50 and then strive to each personally contribute 55%.

Trying to attribute fault is a losing proposition too--  because at the end its likely that both parties *fairly* blame the other.  Even if we take OP at face value and say she's cheating, he hasn't--  perhaps her perspective is that he abandoned the married years ago, focusing on other concerns, failed to provide her with children they wanted and which she now can not have. It wouldn't excuse the cheating, if those things were true she should have divorced instead... but even in more clear cut cases "fault" can be really complicated.

Better for both parties to be committed to making it fair and equal and take on the risk that it might not be but preserving the ability to leave on regret minimizing terms if they decide it isn't.  Sharing 50% of joint assets with someone who didn't contribute 50% is unfortunate, but you might also be the person who didn't contribute at least 50% to the effort.  Going for 50/50 doesn't just mean that you should try to contribute equally, it should also mean that you're accepting equal risk that you're the party that got the less fair side of the split.

You also really don't want someone staying with you while they're unhappy with the situation just because parting would radically undermine their own life, and a more or less equal split of joint properties symmetrical minimizes the risk at least absent other information (which people are generally absent, going into a relationship).

See above. The financial element is just one part of a complete partnership.  Imagine one spouse earns all the money, but the other provides extensive domestic support that *enables* the first to be successful in their work comfortable that their non-work life is taken care of, brainstorms with them on issues (including work ones) and basically provides all the necessary support-- that's a situation where one spouse can still easily have earned that half even though they brought none of the direct dollars in.

Or imagine that one spouse gives up education or job prospects that they otherwise would have pursued in order to facilitate their joint life.

It's not just natural that the parties will contribute in different ways because there is no need to partner with a duplicate of yourself.  In life or in business you should prefer to partner with someone who compensates for omissions and provides diversity in skills/oppturnities.  That means that at least part of each parties contributions will take different forms.  In practice some of those oppturnities won't pan out but the potential was still valuable.

Many marriages have a person that has low paid but stable income while the other is more entrepreneurial.  More risks are possible because the party with the more stable income provides a backstop.  If the entrepreneurial side is very successful the other partner's contribution may look insignificant by comparison, but in a parallel universe the risks didn't pan out and the entrepreneur looks like a leech.  To decide if the arrangement was fair in advance requires combining all the possible outcomes and accepting that all the possibilities contributed to it being a good risk vs reward.

No one knows going in how its going to play out-- which is a reason it's good to go in expecting to contribute equally then striving to achieve it.  Nothing in life is risk free.  But under a closer-to-equal agreement where the parties strive to be equal contributors (which doesn't mean equal income, but it means equal contributions to their success and happiness) the risk is shared fairly.

And this is not even getting into the fact that supporting other people is an important part of many people's happiness but that also makes it much harder for any outsider to say what is fair--  perhaps one partner did all the cooking but loved nurturing in that way. Who was really getting the better deal out of that part of it?  For sure an outsider to the relationship couldn't say.

But, regardless, at the end of the day they had an agreement going it-- no one should have been under any impression other than if someone cheated they'd likely split and when they did the joint assets would be divided equally if that's the agreement in effect.

Integrity means following your commitments even if you don't like the outcome, it's easy for anyone to keep a commitment when they do like the outcome.  In this case integrity also means not making a mistake that would likely haunt the rest of OP's life too.

Both women and men behave badly, no gender has a monopoly on being crappy.

In the US at least separate property prior to marriage remains separate (along with inheritances) so marrying someone to directly *take* what they already have (vs benefit from it) won't be too effective, though if the parties have significant or complicated assets prior to marriage a prenup can help avoid things accidentally or inadvertently becoming joint property that really aren't joint.  (exact details differ from state to state, of course)

Obviously you can marry someone because of what you think they can do for you going forward-- but that's normal, hopefully each party is honest about what they're hoping to get out of it and what they hope to provide and that they're mutually getting things they need.

In spite of this there are a lot of people confused about the default rules in the US that make mistaken claims... perhaps somewhat motivated by anger at the other gender for their own lack of relationship success and wants to spread their misery around.

And as Satofan44 says, I'm a man -- and I'd give a mirror version of the same position to any woman who had thoughts similar to OP.  Though I advise OP to man up this is really a comment about being strong and having the courage to face a hard and unfair situation with integrity,  -- it's about being an adult and upstanding person something which both men and women should aspire to even if we'd use different language to describe those aspirations.

A director of sales company may get 95% of the companies value if he owns 95% of the company shares.

That's how it exactly works with company ownership.

You are either a paid worker which means you are getting paid for your work, or you are a shareholder and that means you own a piece of the company and you have the right to enjoy whatever cash dividend distribution or share value gain proportionally to your share ownership.

A director of sales may get a much bigger pay check than the other workers but if he owns no shares in the company, he is just another worker.

I think you are confusing paid work for company ownership. Ain't the same thing.


So was what I said bullshit or not? Sir you were about to agree with me and it is because you noticed there was truth in what I said. I agree with you here people should contribute equally to the family resources but you know it and I know it, it is almost never what happens.

And that's why I suggested a solution but you refused to tell your insight about it.

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That's why I suggested to start a company for every family out there so we can actually see who is contributing how much financially and when a divorce occurs I am all for that 50-50 split of that company because we can clearly see then who contributed how much.

But when personal income gets mixed with the family funds, it becomes a mess.

I also pointed out that people should be aware of these quirks before they get married so they can prepare a good prenup contract that maps all these traps. (including a price for betrayal, Elon is probably the master at preparing these type of stuff I haven't made a research on that yet)

The problem is this current system isn't fair. I feel that way and I think many people do. Do I cry about it? No. I already know what will I receive if I step one these landmines. That's all that matters.

I think you've totally missed my point.

What say you to a relationship where Mrs. is a neurosurgeon bringing in 600k/yr working long hours that keep her from family chores and personal care and Mr. leaves college to run runs the household, raises the kids, hosts social events, cooks the food, takes care of repairs and family emergencies, and acts as her personal secretary?

When they divorce-- should Mr. be left cold on the street with nothing because he didn't directly contribute financially?

Sounds like a ridiculous deal for him. So should Mrs. be denied the opportunity to have a high flying job due to not being able to find a supportive spouse?  Presumably without one she'd not be able to make that much income or could only make it at the expense of losing most of the things her spouse provided.

Your ownership point is misguided: both spouses are founders and owners of their relationship and their life together.  Perhaps you're confusing spouse for prostitute (an employee!). :)

My business analogy is not about ownership but that in a successful business different people contribute in entirely different ways and in no way is the direct cashflow part of the business more entitled to a share of the financial reward than any other essential part of the enterprise.

This is why you can't reasonably just divide up separate finances and have each only take out proportional to the cash they put it-- that's only valid if you're married to your clone, each contributing in identical ways.  That's probably a much less good pairing and in reality one partner will put in more money while another may put in more of something else.  And it's not uncommon for the something else partner to be the one working harder and making greater sacrifices, but just in ways that don't directly earn money.

Paying evil with evil won't make it right as two wrong can't make a right. Give fairly to your partner what they deserve for building your wealth with you and then leave the rest for God to judge because everyone will receive their judgement either on earth or when they're no longer human. Have a clear mind and live your life on peace and love. Don't do something that you won't be proud of later in life because of the decisions of your spouse. Don't hide assets in divorce as that's not nobel of you, be opened minded but don't let yourself get worked over like you don't know what is mandated by you.

Actually, this is subjective, if those money are fully yours then it's kinda unfair if split and the other problem is, you accepted the sharing assets during marriage so you should split the assets. I know life is pretty unfair but if you think this will satisfy yourself and move on, then it's 60-40 fine.

The question is why you would give a percentage of your hard-earned money to someone who've broken the marriage, some people talking about the law, but cheating is also an offense. At this point, people are always biased on their perspective, people want an ethical move from the guy, and wants some act based on what's right on the law but some of them aren't even disclosing 100% of their crypto port, which is very insane biased. Anyways, if the story is really true then do what you think is right but remember that there will be consequences on every move you'll do in this situation, even if you're abiding the law.

Seriously - believe me, I had mixed feelings when I read what you said in the OP.
On one hand - I approve of your desire for revenge, but on the other hand I just wish you were be a man. There's no denying that everything you own now is the result of your partnership with your wife - so you both have a right to it. You'll only lose a portion of your wealth by divorcing her - which is certainly better than your wife taking complete control of your assets through abusive means. Be a man OP - you'd be better off without him, let him get the karma of his own way.

I get your point quite right sir.

Cooking food, repairing the roof, picking the kids from school etc these services could be billed to the family company which they formed.

“But I contribute as hard as my spouse, I do the dishes!”

Sorry but doing the dishes shouldn’t give someone the right to get half of the neurosurgeon’s “personal” income/savings especially after cheating on the spouse and eventually ending up with a divorce. S/He should have the option to decide how much of his income will be spent for his for family and for his personal savings/needs.

That’s why a family company is needed.

When I own a company fully or partially, I don’t lose my personal savings and rights to exist as a person but it goes out of the window when I form a family.

People accept this because they are uninformed. Nobody tells them what that is they are signing.


 :'(

That is not how the world currently works.

• You can't assign value directly to these contributions in any objective way in monetary terms.
• You don't get to arbitrarily reassign value to the contributions after the fact. If you were accepting of this arrangement during good times, that means you valued them highly.
• The betrayal does not diminish the value of the previous contributions.

Whose fault it is that a person gets married without understanding what the marriage contract even really is? It is one of the most basic and most simple contracts that exists. In effect you are running away from your own mistake/failure instead of taking responsibility for it. Is it good that someone is going to get 50% of your money after betraying you? Of course not. Is it still your own fault? Yes it is.

You can assign monetary value to anything.

They said the same thing when btc appeared.

“You can’t assign any value to pixels!”

Here we are, btc is trading at $110k.

Doing the dishes is work and work is something you get paid for, just like mining btc.

You can't if you want to be objective about the situation. If you calculate all of your wife's contributions using low-wages that are often being paid for such work, dish washing, cleaning, cooking and so on, all you are doing is creating a biased and distorted view of the situation that suits yourself. If the collective monetary value of those actions was so low, then why didn't you hire other people to do it instead of relying on her? There is no objective way for a husband or wife to objectively value the contribution to the family of the other spouse that stays at home or earns less. He would just arbitrarily decide what not to value and what to value and at which amount in a way that suits his intended goals.

Anyway, you are missing the core argument in my post which is this. Even if you could objectively calculate the wife's contributions to be 5-10% (you can't), you still signed up for a 50-50 split. You could whine that you got a lousy partner who didn't do her share and that you had a bad deal, that still won't change the fact that you owe 50%.

The system I am offering doesn't have to track only the wife's contributions. It can also calculate the husband's contributions. Fixing the pipe ain't cheap labor nowadays.

How do we determinate the cost of labor? Well, I think we should send it to the family company's board of directors. If it passes the board, then it is good to go. There are probably good amount of data on the average payments for those kind of services. In this information age it won't be hard to name a price for those services.


No, I am trying to make it fair for both sides. Why do you assume what I suggest protects only the husband? Do you assume no females ever earn more than their husband? Tsk...



When did I even say that I had a wife? Are you confusing me for someone else? I am not the OP if you think that's who you are talking to.  You totally missed my point. You are probably auto-replying without even reading my posts at this point since your post is mostly based on false assumptions

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I ain't stepping on that trap just like you won't.


I don't owe anyone jackshit. Sorry to ruin your fantasy.

Yes you are right. There are legal implications for trying to hide his true financial position. Infact, he will stand the chance of losing everything if caught.

I do not see how he can hide his assets in bitcoins without being traced. Something will definitely be off/fishy and the relevant authorities will be prompted to intensify investigations. There will be bank transfer records, exchanges might even be contacted. He should just pray that nothing is linked to him.

My advice to him is that he should move on and abort any plan of hiding his property. Let him share his property as compensation for the years they've been together.

He is not trying to hide.

He is trying to run back to Iraq before everything blows up.

Since no actions have been taken by either side yet, he actually has a chance to pull this.

Liquidate, move funds, buy a ticket to Iraq, disappear…

Wife goes:

- Where is hubby? Meeeh let him go to hell he was useless anywai good thing is i had a replacement… wait a fuggin minute… THE MONEY! THE MONEY IS GONE!! CALL FBI 911 CIA FUUUUUUUUUCK

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Hopefully he won’t do that stupid shit because doing it would mean admitting defeat. (I wasn’t prepared enough for that kind of shit, I should have read the papers more carefully before I signed)

 what your wife did is very wrong, but since you know her way about why not call  her to order and tell her everything I'm sure she will feel remorse if she still loves you instead of planning to leave without her notice. You should know that marriage is for better and for worse so in a situation like that you need to seat her down and force words into her ears as this is the right way to handle such issue. Honestly I have never come across such thing before but I have seen similar thing happening outside but after that they still solve everything amicably without talking about divorce, this step you're planning to take is very dangerous moreover you should know what women are capable of doing you can feel that traveling very far is safe but some day you will be surprise when they will locate you wherever you are, so the only advice I can give you is that you should go and sort things with her.

## I believe in self decision and grow up with self questioning, why this statement? Life is all about temptation and believe me, when a my is progress devil fine a miss to stop u all damage ur  health for early grave but the winning part of all these above discussion is self questioning and self decision for instance,  ask urself if really u are doing good for ur wife, are u giving the necessary attention to ur family, how about your children if any, then the properties it is all urs meaning does ur wife hustle up with u when u both were in a good terms and do u love her.
If really all these have finalized within ur instincts and self, take a step but, if really u love her call her questions her let her know that u are aware of her stupid behavior from that moment u will really understand while she cheated on.
Love can start again going to sell properties is set back, running away can lead to other problems that can even end ur live therefore I subjects u make peace 🕊️ and believe me u will enjoy more thanks

I am not a party to divorce but sincerely I am not also party of cheating and if there’s one thing I will not tolerate in marriage is for my partner to be cheating on me when I’m not.
I know you are already very emotional and heart broken but I love the fact that you are already trying to channel your energy into the right course and I don’t know how your country and it’s system works and since we can not find your wife here on the forum and judging but the story you shared here now, I will advise that you should take your financial life very serious and do everything possible to protect your finance because I believe one major reason your wife might be doing this is because she already has the consciousness of the divorce terms and on the long term I think some countries are not fair to the men in marriages and the divorce terms would be one major reason people might not be too interested in marriage.

Getting married is fundamentally almost the same thing as sending funds to a centralized exchange.

Many people get scammed out of their funds in the end and yet millions of people still do it everyday.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506545.msg64440296#msg64440296

^ Dude lost 3 btc to huobi

What should we call this? Mass delusion?

This marriage of a thing could be viewed as a daylight robbery in many cases, which is why rich people should be smart these days, especially the men. A lot of women do not love the men they are with in marriage, but are just in the marriage for the money and the expensive lifestyle the marriage could provide.

If the man is not wise enough, his money will be shared with another person, who I like to term a stranger, who do not do anything to support him in most cases, but just to spend his money. This is painful. I've read, heard and watched a lot of rich people's fortune, especially the celebrities being split in the name of marriage. This is why the rich people should prepare their prenups and also try to outsmart this women as I advised above. Akon was on the news recently for the same reason. This is a smart move and I believe it will discourage many of these greedy ladies.

where are u from I mean which country

I totally think u can do it

As much as it sounded good to me I think you should just let split the assets between you both like many others already mentioned.
I know it feels aweful to having to give up your hard earned money just like that to someone who's been cheating on you.
But that's the harsh reality and that's the way how they have setup policies against us.
I do agree splitting up the money when both the partners mutually decide go split up but not in case of cheating.
Why should the cheating partners get any money from the non-cheating one, isn't it unjust?

You should do it or be a man and give her a share is subjective, and I am not coming into that.

But, yes, you can hide and hide it pretty well, and all you need is a plan. How about saying you lost all your savings in online dating? You legally lost all your money while you just sent it to another new wallet that is not linked with any of your identities. You can lose the trail further but using any of the mixers, though.

Again, I am not saying you should, but all I am saying is you could. ;D

Taking revenge might not be the best solution.As humans, we can resolve issues through reasoning and good communication. I don't condone your wife's infidelity, but I also don't support your desire for revenge.I believe after 20 years of marriage, you both have built a strong foundation of understanding,which is worth salvaging.You're an adult, capable of making decisions that suit your situation. If divorcing is the best solution to your pain, consider that option rather than hiding. Alternatively, you could forgive her and offer a second chance we often need one.Also,be aware that hiding assets in Bitcoin isn't foolproof,transactions are traceable these days.

Since your wife cheated on you and that is why you want to do these things. At this moment, you have to be in control in terms of law, safety and mental health. And you have to make a decision with a cool head. Since the problem is your personal one. However, I think that without trying to take revenge or punish your wife, you can find a peaceful and safe solution within the law. So that your money, reputation and peace of mind are maintained. However, your going beyond the law or trying to hide your assets can be presented against you in court. In this situation, you can talk to a lawyer so that you can get proper advice about your rights legally. I think it is better not to do anything against the law or try to hide your assets at this moment and you should choose the right and safe path in a planned manner.

Damn man, that is awful and am very sorry to hear about this. This is some low key diabolical plotting you have going on here, purely entertaining to read and very controversial. Bitcoin ATMs have crazy high fees youll lose 20% off the top. Id maybe go the exchange route just to convert and then transfer to cold storage. The upside I think it's Iran that that energy costs are so low! You should start a major mining operation over there and make a killing hahaha. Assuming that you dont get blown up and shit over there with all that war and fight happening in the region. Seems pretty risky all of it but surely will be movie material one day😉

This is where the real problem arises where there is a huge age gap in marriage. One of the reasons for the problem here is the age gap, you are 45 years old but your wife is 20 years old, there is a huge gap of 25 years in between. You are almost at the end of your life but your wife is at the beginning of her life, you should not have married such a young girl, if you had married a girl of your age, you would not have had to face so much tension and you would not have had to face this problem. But before taking this decision, you can definitely consult your wife, if your wife is intelligent, then maybe she will understand, but I would say give your wife time, I think your wife will definitely listen to you. If you want, you can convert all your investments into Bitcoin and by converting into Bitcoin, you can hide all your wealth from your wife. But here I want to know, do you have any son or daughter? If you have any son or daughter, then always keep in mind that they should not be harmed due to this problem of yours because if you and your wife get divorced, then your children will become orphans.

In addition to your question to OP
Do you not have children with her, what will be the fate of those children, after 20 years experiences separation from their parents, how do you then want them to cope with their parents being apart, what will be their future with single parenting or having another woman/man as their second parent.

Is it fair for them, if your decision towards their mother is okay by you, therefore for their sake be tolerant and patience with yourself, if she is tired of the marriage, she will go on her own and if not will come back to apologies, therefore be a man and move on, after all some men also cheat on their wives and the wives are aware and they still remain in the marriage and sort things out.

You misunderstood, OP didn't say his wife is 20 years old, but they have been married for 20 years.

Also, age difference is not a problem in marriage if it is true love. Don't take it as a barrier or blame the age difference because there are many reasons why marriages break down.


He cannot hide his assets from his wife by transferring them to bitcoin. Because as he moves assets from stocks to fiat and from fiat to bitcoin, the transactions become trackable and traceable by law enforcement. I don't see this as a solution and I don't support this idea. Instead, since this is a joint property of 2 people, it is the fairest way to let the law resolve it.


This is what I wonder, I am surprised that their marriage lasted for more than 20 years but they did not have children. OP didn't even mention his kids, and all he wanted was to take all the assets from his wife. So I don't really believe his story, nor do I believe he was a victim in his marriage.

Many people here are sharing their valuable opinions, and I truly respect them.

OP, it’s really sad that your wife is cheating on you. No husband or wife can normally accept such a thing. And of course, no one would want a cheater to enjoy half of their hard-earned wealth.

However, I’m a bit unclear about one thing—is your wife 20 years old, or have you been married to her for 20 years?

Assuming she is a 20-year- woman (since you didn’t mention having any children), I would say that the mistake is yours. Why did you choose to marry someone so young?

Maybe she’s struggling to adjust to your life, which is why she’s seeking happiness elsewhere. The fact that she’s having an affair could be blamed on her age. But divorce is not always the best solution. When two people live together, they become emotionally attached to each other. The relationship between husband and wife is unlike any other—it’s not like a boss and an employee relationship.

If you believe that she still has love for you, then talk to her openly. Make her understand, reassure her, and give her confidence and support. If she still doesn’t understand, think about how you might make her see reason. But running away to another country like this is not the action of a true gentleman.

And if things feel too complicated, then consult a good lawyer to settle the matter properly.

This problem shouldn't be the results of age gap because the woman was aware of there age differences so if it was something she does not like she wouldn't have accepted the man, this can also happen to people with the same age so is just about the person fatefulness, However is not an easy thing to handle as man in seeing or knowing that he is leaving with somebody that's pretending to see him as the only person she cared for while she is cheating with another man. For someone who has a lot of properties and assets is actually time consuming and stress to convert everything into Bitcoin because he will have to sell everything one of after the other and in cause of doing it the wife he was even hiding it from might gets to no about it.

Although this problem is not due to age, such problems often occur in villages or cities where the wife does not like her husband due to the age difference between the husband and wife, due to which they look for a smart boy, they indulge in extramarital affairs. The question may arise here, why was the consent given at the time of marriage and the marriage was arranged? In fact, there are many families who decide on the marriage without taking the daughter's opinion. If the boy's family is prosperous and if the boy is a government employee, then there is no question about it. In fact, such problems often occur in our Bangladesh. That is why I am saying that such problems can arise here due to the age difference. However, it should also be remembered that before getting married, there should be a slight difference between the age of a girl and a man, and not too much difference.