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Title: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 07:32:34 AM
Who are we, What we Do
BeeMiner is my team name as well as our product name, we are a China based manufacturing company who dedicated in the Bitcoin mining industry our team formed in early 2013. Regarding our position in this new industry, in simple, we will be your BTC miner manufacturing factory in China. Thanks to my technical team great and hard work in the past few months, and now we can proudly announce that we will be able to mass production the 1 Terra hash BTC miner based on Coincraft A1 now. We accepted OEM orders or group buy and can ship worldwide from China. Besides, we also hold some stock in China factory as well as Melbourne, Australia. Where I am based.

What's your product SPEC

Hash rate: Not less than 1,000GH/s in normal Mode,1150 GH when over clocked
Power on the wall: 1,000W from the wall in normal and 1150 when over clocked
Power efficiency: <=1Watt/GH/s
PSU: 1000W, 80PLUS gold(2nd PSU needed when over clocked)
Noise: Full speed fan, Thus noise around 45db
4U Rack
PSU inside
Plug and Play for stand along mining

Here is some picture of the factory and the product. I know that there are some famous member in this fourm from Australia as well. You more than welcome to come Melbourne and take a look at our product face to face at my garage. I am the sales guy in this team, I may not able to give you all the answer while my technical team can and we are always happy to provide all the necessary information for a better trust.
Factory
https://i.imgur.com/IHkZgE4.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/p4OxSlQ.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/1KqiUsN.jpg?1

Miner
https://i.imgur.com/bbOshU5.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/veekgsr.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/CIN5l0G.png?1

7 April Up loaded 2 different running rate at different pool, Generally, at BTCG will minimum running at 1.2 Terra and Eligius average 1.18 Terra.Thanks
Feel free to let me know if you have more questions.

You will find more information in this thread than our official website. Thanks

Let's welcome the competition!

Whats New?
We have finished a few batch of OEM orders in recent. And now we decided to open for all. If you have A1 chips but having difficulty to build the miners, you can send us your A1 chips and we will help to build them in two weeks. Meanwhile,we also provide the solution for Sycript miner building service based on A2 terminator chips. Besides we also provide hosting service.
Feel free to contact Beeminer or Jbcheng for more details. Thanks
Jbcheng by 13 May 2014


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on April 05, 2014, 07:37:05 AM
How soon can you deliver 1,000 units (without power supplies) and what price?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 05, 2014, 08:28:54 AM
 ;D



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
 8)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Easy2Mine on April 05, 2014, 09:04:44 AM
I will be in Fenggangzhen after 16 april.
Is your factory located in Shenzhen?
Pm me with address and telephone number.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Easy2Mine on April 05, 2014, 09:07:38 AM
I am not attacking you, but you need to hire someone who knows how to build a website.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 09:12:13 AM
Thanks for the interest,
While unfortunately, our factory not located in Shenzhen but in Hangzhou. Feel free to let me know if you still interested to go to Hangzhou for a short visit.
My team will give you a best welcome!

Thanks



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Easy2Mine on April 05, 2014, 09:26:41 AM
I will definately visit you after visiting the factories in Dongguan and Shenzhen.
I have a friend in Shanghai I haven't seen in years, might as well visit her first before I goto Hangzhou.
From Shanghai to Hanzhou is not that far by car.
Pm me address, telephone number and price.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Powell on April 05, 2014, 09:44:31 AM
Shot you a PM.  Shoot me back an email when you get a chance!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
Shot you a PM.  Shoot me back an email when you get a chance!
Hi Powell,

Just came back from a family dinner. sorry for the long waiting and already get back to you via personal msg. keep in touch. Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: seriouscoin on April 05, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
show us better pics of the internal, like the host board and how the modules connected to the host board.

Whats up with crappy angle shot?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: nikolaz on April 05, 2014, 11:13:59 AM
How much and how soon can you deliver?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 11:24:40 AM
show us better pics of the internal, like the host board and how the modules connected to the host board.

Whats up with crappy angle shot?

Coz I'm trying to avoid my messy garage from the backend! will consult our technical team whether its allow more detail pictures from the internal. Thanks


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 11:27:02 AM
How much and how soon can you deliver?

Its depending how many units you want. If less than 15 Units we can deliver tomorrow worldwide. If more than that, we will confirm a schedule when order placed. Generally if less than 500 Units, You won't wait too long. Will PM you the price. Thanks



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 05, 2014, 03:12:30 PM
 :) :D ;D

Hello World!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: whonesta on April 05, 2014, 09:08:27 PM
I am not attacking you, but you need to hire someone who knows how to build a website.


Website is NON-functional? Are you sold out already?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
I am not attacking you, but you need to hire someone who knows how to build a website.


Website is NON-functional? Are you sold out already?

Website just a basic version and still in developing. in future Beeminer.com will only for tech support. E-Commence website in built up while we do not want to waste time as time is critical and our product is ready now.

If you want to order testing unit. you can place order now.

all the question will be answered in this thread or PM by me and beeminer .Thanks

jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
:) :D ;D

Hello World!

Hellow everyone,

This guy is our technical preventative. any technical problem or question can go for him as I may not able to provide you further detail or not allow to provide you further detail.

Thanks

jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Xer0 on April 05, 2014, 10:15:14 PM
can i get a test unit with Paypal?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: apollojmr on April 05, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
can i get a test unit with Paypal?

I would also want to know this.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 05, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
can i get a test unit with Paypal?

Hi all,

We will accept Paypal or escrow for the first deal for testing purpose, also to build up the trust. the subsequent order we prefer BTC payment or wire transfer as this will speed up the process and save time.

Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Burninj on April 05, 2014, 11:27:31 PM
price and delivery date please...


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: purenewfoundlander on April 06, 2014, 02:42:39 AM
I am also interested in this   Can you pm me your prices for under 15 units plus how will these be shipped. I am in canada

Thanks


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 06, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
 :) :D ;D


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: dani on April 06, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
The only way to get information past pointless smileys is to contact him. Since hes unable to tell you, I will:
Under 15 units, for testing, its the same price as 1 antminer s2. Since i looked up the price on ninjatech.org and it was stated as 7 btc, so ~3200$… jbcheng said it would still cost 3599$…

@jbcheng: could you be so kind and answer my question regarding bigger volume prices? Still waiting for an offer.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: joeofall on April 06, 2014, 06:13:38 PM
Hi,

Please share the price for test unit.

thank you
Joe


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: seriouscoin on April 06, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
The only way to get information past pointless smileys is to contact him. Since hes unable to tell you, I will:
Under 15 units, for testing, its the same price as 1 antminer s2. Since i looked up the price on ninjatech.org and it was stated as 7 btc, so ~3200$… jbcheng said it would still cost 3599$…

@jbcheng: could you be so kind and answer my question regarding bigger volume prices? Still waiting for an offer.

Hhahah good luck selling at this price point.



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: dogie on April 06, 2014, 06:39:50 PM
The only way to get information past pointless smileys is to contact him. Since hes unable to tell you, I will:
Under 15 units, for testing, its the same price as 1 antminer s2. Since i looked up the price on ninjatech.org and it was stated as 7 btc, so ~3200$… jbcheng said it would still cost 3599$…

@jbcheng: could you be so kind and answer my question regarding bigger volume prices? Still waiting for an offer.

Hhahah good luck selling at this price point.
7btc was at the old btc rate. S2 prices are fixed to $ so both these units will be sold at the same price.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Xian01 on April 07, 2014, 01:24:54 AM
I'd be interested in snagging one.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jimrome on April 07, 2014, 01:36:51 AM
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?

One more question: how long do you plan to support the product e.g. firmware updates for bug fixes, new miner software versions, and performance improvements?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 07, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
The only way to get information past pointless smileys is to contact him. Since hes unable to tell you, I will:
Under 15 units, for testing, its the same price as 1 antminer s2. Since i looked up the price on ninjatech.org and it was stated as 7 btc, so ~3200$… jbcheng said it would still cost 3599$…

@jbcheng: could you be so kind and answer my question regarding bigger volume prices? Still waiting for an offer.

Hi All,

Please be ware of out unit total include 5 modules and 40chips inside. generally it can reach up to 1.2 Terra in average. so please do a simple calculation for the price and not just simply compare us with Antminer S2. As I said, the price above is just a testing unit price and price always negotiable upon the volume and delivery date.

I uploaded some picture at the first page and you can see that our miner is pretty stable even in over clocking mode.

And sorry for the late response and I will go through one by one as just come back from a cloud mining customer side

Thanks

Jacob


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 07, 2014, 09:09:06 AM
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?

One more question: how long do you plan to support the product e.g. firmware updates for bug fixes, new miner software versions, and performance improvements?

Hi all,

As I said I just can answer the question regarding the sales and distribution. some of these questions will involve technical and I may not be able to give the perfect answer. While I will answer first and beeminer will make up if I missed some.
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.
2, I can not answer this question at the moment while our Beeminer.com will have support document in the near future for end users to upgrade the firmware and some technical support.

for all the products we sell out we will provide 90 days repairing and replace warranty. While we will not bear the mining lose during the repair and replacement. we will make sure all the product is working fine before sending out. and when customer received the unit you need do some generally checking especially the wire connection before fire up.

Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: pedrosoft on April 07, 2014, 09:39:35 AM
interested :)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jimrome on April 07, 2014, 03:56:34 PM
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?

One more question: how long do you plan to support the product e.g. firmware updates for bug fixes, new miner software versions, and performance improvements?

Hi all,

As I said I just can answer the question regarding the sales and distribution. some of these questions will involve technical and I may not be able to give the perfect answer. While I will answer first and beeminer will make up if I missed some.
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.
2, I can not answer this question at the moment while our Beeminer.com will have support document in the near future for end users to upgrade the firmware and some technical support.

for all the products we sell out we will provide 90 days repairing and replace warranty. While we will not bear the mining lose during the repair and replacement. we will make sure all the product is working fine before sending out. and when customer received the unit you need do some generally checking especially the wire connection before fire up.

Thanks

Jbcheng


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.

Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:

Quote
When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.

To protect your rights, we need to prevent others from denying you these rights or asking you to surrender the rights. Therefore, you have certain responsibilities if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it: responsibilities to respect the freedom of others.

For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.

and...

Quote
Some devices are designed to deny users access to install or run modified versions of the software inside them, although the manufacturer can do so. This is fundamentally incompatible with the aim of protecting users' freedom to change the software. The systematic pattern of such abuse occurs in the area of products for individuals to use, which is precisely where it is most unacceptable. Therefore, we have designed this version of the GPL to prohibit the practice for those products. If such problems arise substantially in other domains, we stand ready to extend this provision to those domains in future versions of the GPL, as needed to protect the freedom of users.



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: firejuan on April 07, 2014, 08:00:54 PM
Fortunately, the author of cgminer is a Mod of this forum so he can fully clarifly the licensing.

Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?

One more question: how long do you plan to support the product e.g. firmware updates for bug fixes, new miner software versions, and performance improvements?

Hi all,

As I said I just can answer the question regarding the sales and distribution. some of these questions will involve technical and I may not be able to give the perfect answer. While I will answer first and beeminer will make up if I missed some.
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.
2, I can not answer this question at the moment while our Beeminer.com will have support document in the near future for end users to upgrade the firmware and some technical support.

for all the products we sell out we will provide 90 days repairing and replace warranty. While we will not bear the mining lose during the repair and replacement. we will make sure all the product is working fine before sending out. and when customer received the unit you need do some generally checking especially the wire connection before fire up.

Thanks

Jbcheng


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.

Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:

Quote
When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.

To protect your rights, we need to prevent others from denying you these rights or asking you to surrender the rights. Therefore, you have certain responsibilities if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it: responsibilities to respect the freedom of others.

For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights.

and...

Quote
Some devices are designed to deny users access to install or run modified versions of the software inside them, although the manufacturer can do so. This is fundamentally incompatible with the aim of protecting users' freedom to change the software. The systematic pattern of such abuse occurs in the area of products for individuals to use, which is precisely where it is most unacceptable. Therefore, we have designed this version of the GPL to prohibit the practice for those products. If such problems arise substantially in other domains, we stand ready to extend this provision to those domains in future versions of the GPL, as needed to protect the freedom of users.




Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: -ck on April 07, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
Hi jbcheng

Fortunately, the author of cgminer is a Mod of this forum so he can fully clarifly the licensing.
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.

Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:
As always I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some misunderstanding on your part about the license you have agreed to when choosing cgminer and deciding to develop your driver based on its code, or that you have misunderstood what is being asked of you.

So I will remind you as simply as possible as a summary of that document above (also as per the file COPYING included with the cgminer source and binaries).

The license you have agreed to by using cgminer means:
You are free to modify and distribute binaries based on cgminer provided you distribute the source with your modifications, or a link to a publicly available download site that hosts the source, or provide the option to send a copy of the source on media for no more than the cost of the media, along with a copy of the license included in all binaries and source distributed or a link to the COPYING file. If you do not do this within 30 days, then your license to distribute the binaries will be revoked and you will be open to prosecution.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: cr4sh0verride on April 07, 2014, 10:18:09 PM
You have to ask what would be the reason for it not being open source?

If there was a function you were providing with you version of the software what is it and what would be the reason to close the source to it?

I'm happy to escrow a unit to test it but what would the implications be if I bought one and the source code was never released?
What's to say there is code in there that won't trigger at a certain time to start mining on another pool and lock the user out?

You also mentioned in PM that a lot of units have been sold to an Australian Cloud mining company..
I've searched as extensively as I could and I have a few connections around and I couldn't find any information on that?

If you could elaborate on that if possible please and maybe even provide a contact number/website etc so I can ask them about their units.

Thanks,


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: seriouscoin on April 07, 2014, 11:34:16 PM
You have to ask what would be the reason for it not being open source?

If there was a function you were providing with you version of the software what is it and what would be the reason to close the source to it?

I'm happy to escrow a unit to test it but what would the implications be if I bought one and the source code was never released?
What's to say there is code in there that won't trigger at a certain time to start mining on another pool and lock the user out?

You also mentioned in PM that a lot of units have been sold to an Australian Cloud mining company..
I've searched as extensively as I could and I have a few connections around and I couldn't find any information on that?

If you could elaborate on that if possible please and maybe even provide a contact number/website etc so I can ask them about their units.

Thanks,
Only one reason: 90% hashrate is user configurable, 10% is not  ::)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Zelek Uther on April 08, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
There are competitors who have open sourced all their code: Spondoolies-Tech for example.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 09, 2014, 02:19:09 PM
 ;D ;D :) :)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: donggo on April 09, 2014, 02:47:08 PM
What's with the constant stupid smilies? and this is your "technical" guy??

Price and delivery date?

I can't see why anyone would pay anything close to $3599 for 1th miner at current diff


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: madsusies on April 09, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
the  ;D = for Chinese "we are in business"
https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1381055034/4009780.jpg


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: cxboyminer on April 09, 2014, 04:13:34 PM
Havent had a reply from jbcheng...


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: jbcheng on April 10, 2014, 07:32:03 AM
Hi jbcheng

Fortunately, the author of cgminer is a Mod of this forum so he can fully clarifly the licensing.
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.


Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:
As always I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some misunderstanding on your part about the license you have agreed to when choosing cgminer and deciding to develop your driver based on its code, or that you have misunderstood what is being asked of you.

So I will remind you as simply as possible as a summary of that document above (also as per the file COPYING included with the cgminer source and binaries).

The license you have agreed to by using cgminer means:
You are free to modify and distribute binaries based on cgminer provided you distribute the source with your modifications, or a link to a publicly available download site that hosts the source, or provide the option to send a copy of the source on media for no more than the cost of the media, along with a copy of the license included in all binaries and source distributed or a link to the COPYING file. If you do not do this within 30 days, then your license to distribute the binaries will be revoked and you will be open to prosecution.

Hi All,

As per communicated with the technical team, I was told that BeeMiner's mining software was developed based on the software PAK provided by our chipset supplier. and we do not own the source code at all and as per communication with the chipset supplier, BeeMiner was not permitted to provide the source code at the current stage. And the Chipset supplier will decide whether to open source or when to do so.

We are trying our best to develop our own at the moment and once we done, we will consider to open the source code for review in later time.

Sorry about the misunderstanding above.

jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 10, 2014, 07:54:05 AM
What's with the constant stupid smilies? and this is your "technical" guy??

Price and delivery date?

I can't see why anyone would pay anything close to $3599 for 1th miner at current diff

The price was set based on the total cost of our miners. While BTC price keep on dropping while Chipset and other component cost remain no change. Plus our miner total have 5 modules and 40 Chipsets inside compare to the other competitor 4 modules 32 chipsets inside. and our miner Minimum speed 1.15 Terra and some reach to 1.25 Terra. Thus the price shall be reasonable.

Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 14, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
1.5 T BeeMiner coming soon...  :)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: inzli on April 14, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
1.5 T BeeMiner coming soon...  :)

Good to know, so I'll watch out on the site of the manufacturer....


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: jimrome on April 14, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
Hi jbcheng

Fortunately, the author of cgminer is a Mod of this forum so he can fully clarifly the licensing.
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.


Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:
As always I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some misunderstanding on your part about the license you have agreed to when choosing cgminer and deciding to develop your driver based on its code, or that you have misunderstood what is being asked of you.

So I will remind you as simply as possible as a summary of that document above (also as per the file COPYING included with the cgminer source and binaries).

The license you have agreed to by using cgminer means:
You are free to modify and distribute binaries based on cgminer provided you distribute the source with your modifications, or a link to a publicly available download site that hosts the source, or provide the option to send a copy of the source on media for no more than the cost of the media, along with a copy of the license included in all binaries and source distributed or a link to the COPYING file. If you do not do this within 30 days, then your license to distribute the binaries will be revoked and you will be open to prosecution.

Hi All,

As per communicated with the technical team, I was told that BeeMiner's mining software was developed based on the software PAK provided by our chipset supplier. and we do not own the source code at all and as per communication with the chipset supplier, BeeMiner was not permitted to provide the source code at the current stage. And the Chipset supplier will decide whether to open source or when to do so.

We are trying our best to develop our own at the moment and once we done, we will consider to open the source code for review in later time.

Sorry about the misunderstanding above.

jbcheng

Ahh, just a simple misunderstanding. It happens!

Just to be perfectly clear: what you're saying is that Beeminer's chipset supplier (Innosilicon I presume) actually developed a mining program in-house which is not based on, a derivative work of, or a modification of the cgminer source code? Is this accurate?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: jbcheng on April 15, 2014, 08:07:26 AM
Hi jbcheng

Fortunately, the author of cgminer is a Mod of this forum so he can fully clarifly the licensing.
Two A few questions:
  • will your driver and/or mining software be open source?
  • In the case where GPL code is used, will you respect the license and post your modifications? You know, unlike your competitors (I'm looking at you bitmain and lketc  >:().
  • will you make your circuit schematic docs open source - or at least available as PDF?

If the answer to the above questions is 'no' how exactly do you expect customers to maintain/repair your products?
1, We use CGminer as mining software and we based on the open sources CG and developed by our own team to suit our hardware. at the current stage, we will not be able to open source. I believe others won't either.


As per the GPL license you must supply source code and all modifications. This is mandatory.


Here are some relevant snippets from https://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html:
As always I will give the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some misunderstanding on your part about the license you have agreed to when choosing cgminer and deciding to develop your driver based on its code, or that you have misunderstood what is being asked of you.

So I will remind you as simply as possible as a summary of that document above (also as per the file COPYING included with the cgminer source and binaries).

The license you have agreed to by using cgminer means:
You are free to modify and distribute binaries based on cgminer provided you distribute the source with your modifications, or a link to a publicly available download site that hosts the source, or provide the option to send a copy of the source on media for no more than the cost of the media, along with a copy of the license included in all binaries and source distributed or a link to the COPYING file. If you do not do this within 30 days, then your license to distribute the binaries will be revoked and you will be open to prosecution.

Hi All,

As per communicated with the technical team, I was told that BeeMiner's mining software was developed based on the software PAK provided by our chipset supplier. and we do not own the source code at all and as per communication with the chipset supplier, BeeMiner was not permitted to provide the source code at the current stage. And the Chipset supplier will decide whether to open source or when to do so.

We are trying our best to develop our own at the moment and once we done, we will consider to open the source code for review in later time.

Sorry about the misunderstanding above.

jbcheng

Ahh, just a simple misunderstanding. It happens!

Just to be perfectly clear: what you're saying is that Beeminer's chipset supplier (Innosilicon I presume) actually developed a mining program in-house which is not based on, a derivative work of, or a modification of the cgminer source code? Is this accurate?

Hi there,

As I declared, we are a manufacturing company and we do have our own system or chipset supplier. While mining rig manufacturing in China now do have a comprehensive chain and we are just part of that. But I can not tell you who is our supplier just because this is trade secret and you are not my customer and you won't need to know it. and my customer won't care about who is my supplier either coz price and delivery is the primary they always ask.
I have explain the details to my system supplier regarding the misunderstanding of the CG miner license. thus they have put into the resource and redevelop the new mining software. and they have demonstrated  me a new mining interface which shows NON RELATIVE to CG. and we hope the final version will be released to BeeMiner within 2 weeks.
Once again, We really sorry about the misunderstanding about the CG open source License. by the time our supplier release the new software, we will upgrade all our mining software to the NON CG related version.
What we do just want to secure our investment and gain the profit as per our team hard working. we are not purposely mess the open source community and we will consider to do the same thing once we confirm the open source will beneficial the end user not our competitors.

For our valued customer, Thanks for trust BeeMiner and what we can promise is you will get the mining capacity we claimed. There is no point to hide anything to our end user regarding the mining capacity because the higher capacity we deliver, the higher price we can after. and the miner is stand alone and you will not put any sensitive information into the miner.
Bitcoin community is an ecosystem now and each one of us play different role in it. and every one should have his own reason to step in this industry. What BeeMiner want to do is to dedicated into the hardware manufacturing and developing and gain profit by our effort.

Thanks

jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on April 15, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
With a few words:


chip= clone ,
software = clone ,too.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 15, 2014, 01:05:02 PM
With a few words:


chip= clone ,
software = clone ,too.

Hi Mate,

You are very welcome to buy our machine and clone. I doubt you have such capability. Otherwise. Please be quite.

Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jimrome on April 15, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
With a few words:


chip= clone ,
software = clone ,too.

Hi Mate,

You are very welcome to buy our machine and clone. I doubt you have such capability. Otherwise. Please be quite.

Thanks

Jbcheng

Yeah, with that attitude I'm sure they'll be lining up..  ::) And _original_ mining software in 2 weeks?? More likely a functional obfuscation of the original code in two weeks?

As far as capability: all you are doing is packing other people's chips (Bitmine errrr.... Innosilicon) on other people's boards into metal boxes with fans and shipping them. Oh right, and the boxes only work because of the software you err..... Innosilicon stole errr.... borrowed from others. Even the metal box with fans is virtually identical to at least 3 other manufacturers.

So don't act like you are curing cancer okay?



Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1-ckolivas-cgminer?
Post by: jimrome on April 15, 2014, 04:05:04 PM

<snip>

Bitcoin community is an ecosystem now and each one of us play different role in it. and every one should have his own reason to step in this industry. What BeeMiner want to do is to dedicated into the hardware manufacturing and developing and gain profit from other people's err.... I mean our effort.

Thanks

jbcheng

Fixed that for you


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: seriouscoin on April 15, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
With a few words:


chip= clone ,
software = clone ,too.

Hi Mate,

You are very welcome to buy our machine and clone. I doubt you have such capability. Otherwise. Please be quite.

Thanks

Jbcheng

No one here is your mate, and dont bullshit us about "NON-RELATED" CG miner.

You're not technical enough to make any statement, then tell your "engineer" guy come here and comment.

Making a wrapper of CGminer doesnt make it your own miner idiot.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 18, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
BeeMiner  1.4T , 1.5T on sale now! A1 inside.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: BitchImightbe on April 18, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
BeeMiner  1.4T , 1.5T on sale now! A1 inside.


Price?
Pics?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on April 18, 2014, 06:27:45 PM
Be careful of what you will say about your prices because bittech sells now the 1t for $2300.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: drico on April 18, 2014, 08:08:44 PM
Be careful of what you will say about your prices because bittech sells now the 1t for $2300.

got an url please ?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on April 18, 2014, 08:14:56 PM
Be careful of what you will say about your prices because bittech sells now the 1t for $2300.

got an url please ?


Sure, check here


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=409701.msg6284717#msg6284717 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=409701.msg6284717#msg6284717)


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Xian01 on April 18, 2014, 08:31:37 PM
 These A1 boxes are like Pokémon. I gotta catch 'em all.

 Price provide some updated pricing and shipping availability. I'm interested.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on April 18, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
These A1 boxes are like Pokémon. I gotta catch 'em all.

 Price provide some updated pricing and shipping availability. I'm interested.


Xian you are awesome man! Everywhere at the same time !

Please update the bittech thread !


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 21, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
We will supply miner hosting services soon.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on April 22, 2014, 07:21:22 AM
LTC miner coming soon!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on April 22, 2014, 07:35:26 AM
could you pm me with your address? before i do business with any company in asia, i will hire a private investigator from the area to verify your company actually exists and post any results i receive on this thread for the benefit of the other miners. after the bitcoinminingcenter.com / phoenix technologies scam, i take no chances.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Xian01 on April 22, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
We are 4 pages into this thread, without any answer as to price or purchasing. Have gone from advertising a 1TH miner without any ability to buy it, to now announcing a 1.5tHs product without any pricing or further updates as to the original offering.

How does a plebe like me buy something from you folks now, for shipment tomorrow ?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: inzli on April 22, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
LTC miner coming soon!

Really? Oh my gosh! Wow! Incredible! I guess it comes to the place where your ASIC-miners are, right? It's called lala-land.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on April 24, 2014, 05:23:43 AM
the silence is reassuring.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on April 28, 2014, 05:10:09 AM
Hi all,

Sorry for the late reply. I was just back from my Easter holiday. Beeminer always try to deliver the best ASIC Miner in terms of value for money to you all. while in the last few weeks we were attacked by some people with ulterior motives. While when you were bitten by a dog, you won't bite back.
Thus, from now I will only answer those questions related to our product sales and distribution.
In very soon we will launch our Sycript ASIC miners in Mid May. at the same time 1T and 1.4T Bitcoin miners sales continoues.

Please PM me for the current price for the miners

and if you want to be our agent and distributor, you are very welcomed. Sample Unit will be available at basic cost price.
Thanks

Jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on May 03, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
Yes. Dreams come true.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on May 04, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
could you pm me with your address? before i do business with any company in asia, i will hire a private investigator from the area to verify your company actually exists and post any results i receive on this thread for the benefit of the other miners. after the bitcoinminingcenter.com / phoenix technologies scam, i take no chances.
still no reply to my request.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: dogie on May 04, 2014, 09:20:24 AM
could you pm me with your address? before i do business with any company in asia, i will hire a private investigator from the area to verify your company actually exists and post any results i receive on this thread for the benefit of the other miners. after the bitcoinminingcenter.com / phoenix technologies scam, i take no chances.
still no reply to my request.
Or mine (anymore).


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Harlbatr on May 05, 2014, 01:30:56 PM
Anyone got the miner in hands already ? Is it not too short to feed 1000W miner with 1000W PSU ?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: cannachris on May 05, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
what would a test unit cost w/paypal and how much is shipping to the EU?

Looking good!!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: cr4sh0verride on May 05, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
Have you got any units in Melbourne from the last time we talked?

I'm happy to take one at cost price and write a review of the unit for you


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Kuttingcorners on May 05, 2014, 09:49:01 PM
i would only feel safe ordering if we could use avalonshenzen as a escrow!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on May 13, 2014, 02:50:40 AM
We supply A1(BTC)/A2(LTC scrypt) miner building service and miner hosting service now!


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on May 13, 2014, 03:00:51 AM
We have finished plenty of OEM orders. And now we decided to open for all. If you have A1 chips but having difficulty to build the miners, you can send us your A1 chips and we will help to build them in two weeks. Meanwhile,we also provide the solution for Sycript miner building service based on A2 terminator chips. we also provide hosting service.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Xian01 on May 13, 2014, 03:32:02 AM
Why is it so difficult to get an answer regarding pricing and shipping availability of these products ?

I would like to buy one. How much ?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: Easy2Mine on May 13, 2014, 04:13:26 AM
what would a test unit cost w/paypal and how much is shipping to the EU?

Looking good!!

Hi Chris,

I am in China now.
The shipping cost varies between 2000 till 3800 renminbi (Yuan) depending on which company you used to ship a 1T miner
based on the A1 chip.
The first models are heavy, about 20 kilo.
The latest models are about 14.8 kilo.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: rodeoclownicp on May 13, 2014, 04:31:18 AM
i realy like the skeptisism on this thread, i lost btc to lightningasic aka asiabtc because i thought they were legit- if we all demand escrow, paypal or credit card our money would only support good businesses


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on May 13, 2014, 10:29:24 AM
i realy like the skeptisism on this thread, i lost btc to lightningasic aka asiabtc because i thought they were legit- if we all demand escrow, paypal or credit card our money would only support good businesses
they wont reply to my request for information nor to several others. they are obviously up to something. save your BTC and all mighty Wap Wap.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: beeminer on May 17, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
We were busy for OEM orders. We will find some agents to sell the miners.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on May 17, 2014, 05:08:04 PM
There are also nice other machines around, cheaper and faster shipping.

I wonder why we stick to the non-professional sellers.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on May 18, 2014, 12:58:10 AM
There are also nice other machines around, cheaper and faster shipping.

I wonder why we stick to the non-professional sellers.
It seems they are so busy filing orders from people, they have no time to prove they are legit.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: jbcheng on May 18, 2014, 09:20:56 AM
There are also nice other machines around, cheaper and faster shipping.

I wonder why we stick to the non-professional sellers.
It seems they are so busy filing orders from people, they have no time to prove they are legit.

Hi All,

We are now liaise with some senior member in this forum to have a product review regarding Beeminer's products. Those people who you trusted will tell you whether we are legit or scam.

Please wait and see.

and IF you really have the ambition to invest in the Bitcoin or Litecoin mining, You all welcome to come to China our factory to have a look for the real production.

Just drop me your contact details and we will arrange the time

Thanks

jbcheng


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: dogie on May 18, 2014, 12:30:39 PM
We are now liaise with some senior member in this forum to have a product review regarding Beeminer's products. Those people who you trusted will tell you whether we are legit or scam.

Just to confirm as requested by a few people, this is me.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: subseaguru on May 18, 2014, 05:49:37 PM
There are also nice other machines around, cheaper and faster shipping.

I wonder why we stick to the non-professional sellers.
It seems they are so busy filing orders from people, they have no time to prove they are legit.

Hi All,

We are now liaise with some senior member in this forum to have a product review regarding Beeminer's products. Those people who you trusted will tell you whether we are legit or scam.

Please wait and see.

and IF you really have the ambition to invest in the Bitcoin or Litecoin mining, You all welcome to come to China our factory to have a look for the real production.

Just drop me your contact details and we will arrange the time

Thanks

jbcheng
how about just put the information on the forum and i will forward it to my private investigator friend in hong kong and let him check with the govt and find out about the factory and the office. he will provide pics and video to assure me and the others.


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: rodeoclownicp on May 18, 2014, 11:49:50 PM
There are also nice other machines around, cheaper and faster shipping.

I wonder why we stick to the non-professional sellers.
It seems they are so busy filing orders from people, they have no time to prove they are legit.

Hi All,

We are now liaise with some senior member in this forum to have a product review regarding Beeminer's products. Those people who you trusted will tell you whether we are legit or scam.

Please wait and see.

and IF you really have the ambition to invest in the Bitcoin or Litecoin mining, You all welcome to come to China our factory to have a look for the real production.

Just drop me your contact details and we will arrange the time

Thanks

jbcheng

i would pay shipping for a sample ... this would also show that you handled some btc well ... also this is not a pre-arranged transaction... this would be a transaction initiated by a member towards yourself... i look forward to your reply


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: tzortz on May 19, 2014, 06:47:42 AM
You mean you want a free sample?


Title: Re: BeeMiner 1T BTC Miner official thread based on Bitmine A1
Post by: rodeoclownicp on May 20, 2014, 05:13:22 AM
yes i think a sample should be evaluated by someone who has made the offer to do so - i am cautious when the only recipient is chosen by the party of interest - i know a certain number are set aside for such things and i would like the opportunity