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Title: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: SolarGalaxa on April 14, 2014, 04:12:47 AM
I admit defeat with my thread war regarding AAPL and Bitcoin. After researching, I have come to the conclusion that AAPL is protecting their monopoly.

Just jotting this down, a prime example is PayPal. PayPal, in a number of countries is prohibited from operating, yet AAPL allows the PayPal app with full functionally in the app store. (Full functionally meaning the ability to pay in store, transfer, etc) However, the only reason AAPL allows this, is because both PayPal & AAPL make money from iTunes purchases, and both probably have a 'business contract' with one another.


However, as much as I despise this; that iOS is closed source; and how closed the Mac hardware is... I'll admit that I'll continue to be an iSheep.


I have tried Linux (Ubuntu), and Windows. Though I liked using Ubuntu, the one thing I missed was the quality, and quantity of apps. Sure there are open source apps, but replacing PixelMator? GFL finding a decent replacement. Don't say GIMP. I have used it and it's not a PixelMator replacement.

I had used Windows in the past, and decided to give it a whirl again. I instantly hated it. I guess even the thought of using Windows caused my instant hate. Another main "issue", is that I was indoctrinated when I was young, then when my first mac went, I had a PC. In 2008, I was indoctrinated again via the iPhone 3G, then the next year, I got my second Mac, which I'm still using today.

Hell, I even bought a Nexus 5 to use as a daily device to test Android. The first couple of months it was awesome. I loved being able to customize my home screen, and theme. However, then came seeing how fucking laggy some animations are. I pondered why a quad-core phone with 2GB of RAM would be laggy. My Nexus also has the screen dimming bug, where the screen dims even when using it. Next, is that damn annoying "BEEP!" when hanging up. I went to Google to find an answer. Nope, you need to root. Why does something so simple NEED A ROOT?



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 14, 2014, 04:20:47 AM
I used to love Apple.
A high quality prison is still a life in jail.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: SolarGalaxa on April 14, 2014, 04:27:31 AM
I used to love Apple.
A high quality prison is still a life in jail.

Wouldn't argue with that. iOS is a high quality prison, but to each their own.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 14, 2014, 04:31:40 AM
With a screen name like yours, it'd seem you'd be a perfect fit for the Samsung Galaxy S5.

Seriously, try it.  It's pretty nice!   8)


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 14, 2014, 04:43:22 AM
I used to love Apple.
A high quality prison is still a life in jail.

Wouldn't argue with that. iOS is a high quality prison, but to each their own.

Have you ever seen this? It's pretty good:
Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 14, 2014, 04:48:44 AM
Well half the battle is being aware, that said I didn't really have much of a beef on apple less PRISM and the stuff in the other thread.

As for windows I still prefer Windows 7
I instantly hated Windows 8 because I DO USE MY DAMN DESKTOP to put things to access later and the Start Menu rage lol.
And well RIP Windows XP the patches stopped coming out so time for that forced upgrade for 25% of computer users
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/04/12/301796021/tech-week-heartbleed-the-latest-bubble-and-windows-xp-retires

What does that got to do with apple not sure went on a rant but since I'm ranting what is the lifecycle of an apple product in software support.
I know they always put out new phone models not so much knowledge on the IOS though and when they end support for their older products.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on April 14, 2014, 05:26:46 AM
I am a salesperson for Apple and frankly it makes no sense that a company like Apple is not more bitcoin friendly. Our core values are supposed to be about challenging the status quo and celebrating ingenuity. I can't say for sure but I believe if Steve Jobs were still around things might be bit different between Apple and the bitcoin movement. 


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: SolarGalaxa on April 14, 2014, 05:47:32 AM
With a screen name like yours, it'd seem you'd be a perfect fit for the Samsung Galaxy S5.

Seriously, try it.  It's pretty nice!   8)

Eww, TouchWiz & Plastic?

Seriously though, I currently have a Nexus 5. While I love the device itself, Android is what I'm starting to not like. So no matter what Android phone comes my way, it'll have the same annoying OS.

I am a salesperson for Apple and frankly it makes no sense that a company like Apple is not more bitcoin friendly. Our core values are supposed to be about challenging the status quo and celebrating ingenuity. I can't say for sure but I believe if Steve Jobs were still around things might be bit different between Apple and the bitcoin movement.  

Maybe they're trying to implement it as an API, that way everyone is (almost) happy. You just never know with Apple.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Lauda on April 14, 2014, 06:11:26 AM
With a screen name like yours, it'd seem you'd be a perfect fit for the Samsung Galaxy S5.
Seriously, try it.  It's pretty nice!   8)

Eww, TouchWiz & Plastic?
Anything is better than an apple product.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: SolarGalaxa on April 14, 2014, 07:03:05 AM
Anything is better than an apple product.

Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: hilariousandco on April 14, 2014, 08:13:02 AM
I am a salesperson for Apple and frankly it makes no sense that a company like Apple is not more bitcoin friendly. Our core values are supposed to be about challenging the status quo and celebrating ingenuity.

I'm sure that's what they like to say in their press releases and inductions, but everyone knows that this is not the case.



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Light on April 14, 2014, 08:17:26 AM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Soros Shorts on April 14, 2014, 08:23:55 AM
If you like Apple products you most likely need to buy multiple devices in order to use Bitcoin. Such is the state of things.

I, on the other hand, hate Apple products. Yet I own a MacBook Pro and iPhone because I need them to develop and maintain a mobile App for a charity that I support. I have to say that Objective C is a piece of shit programming language.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: YarkoL on April 14, 2014, 09:31:14 AM

I have tried Linux (Ubuntu), and Windows. Though I liked using Ubuntu, the one thing I missed was the quality, and quantity of apps. Sure there are open source apps, but replacing PixelMator? GFL finding a decent replacement. Don't say GIMP. I have used it and it's not a PixelMator replacement.


I hear you talking. I used to do web design, and as much as I wanted to, the lack of Adobe's support made using Linux hopeless.

Inkscape is great though.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: right wing authoritarian on April 14, 2014, 09:49:46 AM
I suspect apple will allow bitcoin once it is big enough that they cannot ignore it. The ability to use bitcoin with a droid is an advantage over apple for some consumers. At this stage it is not enough of an advantage for enough consumers to threaten the apple's sales. However in the future if bitcoin is what many on this forum believe then you just won't be able to sell an iPhone unless there is a bitcoin app available.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on April 14, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Android wins.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: kokojie on April 14, 2014, 01:21:23 PM
I used to love Apple.
A high quality prison is still a life in jail.

Wouldn't argue with that. iOS is a high quality prison, but to each their own.

Good thing most people do love their freedom, that's how Windows won on the desktop, and Android won on mobile.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
I know that the enemy's enemy is not always a friend. But in this case, shouldn't we take Samsung's side? At least they will help in financially draining Apple, by capturing their market share.  ;D


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on April 14, 2014, 02:11:42 PM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

As far as the closed system issue, when is the last time you heard about a virus hitting a Mac or an iPhone? I sell Apple products to windows users all the time that are sick of virus and spyware and the constant battle to keep their computer or portable device clean. They love that the apps are screened not only for malware and viruses, but for functionality as well. You won't find an app in the store that will run constantly in the background and use all your ram. You also won't find viruses and spyware in the app store. This is a really important aspect for a lot of people.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners.  

I don't really care one way or the other what anyone's preference is, it just seems kind of silly that there is such a rivalry between the users of the various ecosystems.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 14, 2014, 02:19:06 PM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on April 14, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy. 




Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: BitOnyx on April 14, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
I guess apple would like bitcoin as more centralized technology (what would be bad for us in long run because of incoming fees) and they would like to be the central (what might create future difficulties at adaption of bitcoin by other firms )


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Gervais on April 14, 2014, 02:46:28 PM
I think every bitcoin enthusiast should boycott apple.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 14, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy. 




Technically you mean Apple vs Android for mobile devices.  Didn't even know Windows phones were in the race.   :P

This isn't about the electronics preferences.  This is about Apple's continued hypocrisy and monopolistic views towards Bitcoin and anything else that doesn't generate a revenue stream for them.

To think, this was Apple's Slogan once:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Apple_logo_Think_Different_vectorized.svg


Now, it's more bow down to your masters, Sheeple!  Line up, we got a new iPhone 7s coming to you with new improved selfie camera and balls sensor!  Before snapchatting your Ball selfies, you must be logged into iCloud and iTunes first, before you can download the exclusive Beyonce track.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on April 14, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners.  

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy.  




Technically you mean Apple vs Android for mobile devices.  Didn't even know Windows phones were in the race.   :P

This isn't about the electronics preferences.  This is about Apple's continued hypocrisy and monopolistic views towards Bitcoin and anything else that doesn't generate a revenue stream for them.

To think, this was Apple's Slogan once:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Apple_logo_Think_Different_vectorized.svg


Now, it's more bow down to your masters, Sheeple!  Line up, we got a new iPhone 7s coming to you with new improved selfie camera and balls sensor!  Before snapchatting your Ball selfies, you must be logged into iCloud and iTunes first, before you can download the exclusive Beyonce track.

Ah okay. The ideological axe to grind. This is why I don't really get into political or religious discussions either. Everyone in them is firmly rooted in their beliefs and lives in their own little echo chamber so they never have to be challenged to think beyond their preconceived notions. To each his own.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Wilikon on April 14, 2014, 03:43:11 PM

So you've made a thread defending Apple and their move regarding bitcoin, but only now realized Apple forcing bitcoin out of its ecosystem was bad? I don't know about your thread so I could be wrong.

Better late than never I guess. I love my ipad and my 11 year old ipod, but windows 8.1 all the way baby! (and Ubuntu, and Lightworks and Gimp and Krita + cheap tablet from monoprice.com :D)

So many options on the creative front. No need to love the golden cage exclusively anymore. Jobs is dead.



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: right wing authoritarian on April 15, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: runam0k on April 15, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?
Where have you been?  Nokia has been making Windows Phone based smartphones for a while now -- the Lumia range.  Windows Phone has a couple of Bitcoin wallet apps too, AFAIK.

I really like Windows Phone except for the app situation -- apps always land on iOS and Android first and if and when they do arrive on Windows Phone, they are almost always inferior.  Key apps too, like Spotify.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: fryarminer on April 15, 2014, 12:28:58 PM
I have a couple apps that I have developed.
When Apple banned the Blockchain app from the App Store back when, I made the switch. Got a Nexus 5. The phone is amazing. It doesn't have the bloat wear that slows down most other Android phones.
After the switch my eyes were opened and I saw that the future is to get away from Apple. Having an iPhone is so yesterday. Most people want Android now.
And what's better is that there are none of the many restrictions that Apple gives for apps on Android. So many apps with identical names by the same company are better on Android than on Apple. Line2 works seamlessly on Android. On iOS it simply doesn't work the way it should. Pandora has more features on Android than iOS.
I updated my own app for Android, and made it better than the iOS version. Simple things like pinch-to-zoom and scrolling work better on my app in the Android version rather than the iOS.

All of this because of restrictions that Apple puts. Little restrictions like Line2 not being able to have access to ringtones. Or that Gyft cannot accept bitcoin payments in their app.

I'm done with Apple. And I've had every Apple device that has come out since the first iPhone. I've walked away.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: xDan on April 15, 2014, 12:32:59 PM
I have tried Linux (Ubuntu), and Windows. Though I liked using Ubuntu, the one thing I missed was the quality, and quantity of apps. Sure there are open source apps, but replacing PixelMator? GFL finding a decent replacement. Don't say GIMP. I have used it and it's not a PixelMator replacement.

My advice: Have another machine lying around, perhaps that you just use for idle web browsing or something? Or a machine that other people can use? Install Linux on it. That way, at least you'll be supporting a more open system a little, and you will perhaps become more familiar with it and able to inform others of the advantages and limitations. And maybe, one day, the apps you need will get ported...


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Wilikon on April 15, 2014, 08:25:20 PM
I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?

A quick search on the Windows app store. This app store is definitely bitcoin friendly


https://i.imgur.com/6RhkLqh.jpg

More about Windows phone 8.1... While waiting for that Ubuntu phone :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6zmZQRTzE



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ParsnipCommander on April 15, 2014, 08:40:04 PM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

http://star98radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/freedom.jpeg


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: BitchicksHusband on April 15, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
I know that the enemy's enemy is not always a friend. But in this case, shouldn't we take Samsung's side? At least they will help in financially draining Apple, by capturing their market share.  ;D

As bitcoin users, we should (well, Android's side, it doesn't necessarily have to be Samsung).


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: cryptoanarchist on April 16, 2014, 12:23:28 AM

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)

+1



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Wilikon on April 16, 2014, 01:22:50 AM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

http://star98radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/freedom.jpeg

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin  ;)


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ParsnipCommander on April 16, 2014, 01:36:32 AM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

http://star98radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/freedom.jpeg

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin  ;)

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 16, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!


You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin  ;)

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.


Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.


Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 16, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.



I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   ;D

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   8)

A quick search for "take selfies apple iphone" finds this non tech savvy soccer Mom.   :D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fozPT-s0w-E/UMA_q7IycZI/AAAAAAAAA1w/AcWUhyMtmHw/s1600/iphone+douchebag+selfie.jpeg

...and this "misguided chick"
http://media.e2save.com/images/community/2013/08/celebrity-smartphones1.jpg

Here are the mainstream Apple users:
http://www.iphonefaq.org/images/archives/selfie.jpg




Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 16, 2014, 02:31:27 AM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!


You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin  ;)

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.


Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.

Yes, Apple. These companies have incredibly complex relationships, IP, tech partnerships, and legal considerations. Who knows what kind of deep politics is going on in Apple regarding BTC. A lot of big investors in bitcoin have stakes (or relationships) in companies competing with varying degrees with Apple. My point stands though - I have faith in the future.

Seriously we need to create a solid foundation and ecosystem (which is happening) first and then let Apple decide then. It's still murky, but the water is getting clearer each month.



Wouldn't it behoove them to allow Bitcoin apps in their marketplace if their direct competitor Google does?

It's bad enough Apple is getting shitted on by Samsung, but pretty much all Android phones.  Even Windows phones has Bitcoin apps.

Apple used to be about innovation, pushing the envelope, and thinking outside the box.

Now their just content in milking their sheeple(badly I might add).  RIP Steve Jobs.



Title: Re: My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.
Post by: Wilikon on April 16, 2014, 03:52:17 AM
You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!


You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin  ;)

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.


Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.

Yes, Apple. These companies have incredibly complex relationships, IP, tech partnerships, and legal considerations. Who knows what kind of deep politics is going on in Apple regarding BTC. A lot of big investors in bitcoin have stakes (or relationships) in companies competing with varying degrees with Apple. My point stands though - I have faith in the future.

Seriously we need to create a solid foundation and ecosystem (which is happening) first and then let Apple decide then. It's still murky, but the water is getting clearer each month.



Apple does not need us to decide. They already did regarding bitcoin. Nothing "murky" about their decision. I will never buy an iphone.

http://youtu.be/DuQZTAJ2KLk