My Apple Thread - I Admit Defeat.

[Ron~Popeil]

Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.

I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy. 

[BitOnyx]

I guess apple would like bitcoin as more centralized technology (what would be bad for us in long run because of incoming fees) and they would like to be the central (what might create future difficulties at adaption of bitcoin by other firms )

[Gervais]

I think every bitcoin enthusiast should boycott apple.

[ChuckBuck]

Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.

I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy. 

Technically you mean Apple vs Android for mobile devices.  Didn't even know Windows phones were in the race.   

This isn't about the electronics preferences.  This is about Apple's continued hypocrisy and monopolistic views towards Bitcoin and anything else that doesn't generate a revenue stream for them.

To think, this was Apple's Slogan once:




Now, it's more bow down to your masters, Sheeple!  Line up, we got a new iPhone 7s coming to you with new improved selfie camera and balls sensor!  Before snapchatting your Ball selfies, you must be logged into iCloud and iTunes first, before you can download the exclusive Beyonce track.

[Ron~Popeil]

Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.

I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners.  

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.  

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!  

I am not going get into an Apple versus Windows debate. Use whatever device works for you. It is patently absurd to judge a group of people by the type of electronics they buy.  

Technically you mean Apple vs Android for mobile devices.  Didn't even know Windows phones were in the race.  

This isn't about the electronics preferences.  This is about Apple's continued hypocrisy and monopolistic views towards Bitcoin and anything else that doesn't generate a revenue stream for them.

To think, this was Apple's Slogan once:




Now, it's more bow down to your masters, Sheeple!  Line up, we got a new iPhone 7s coming to you with new improved selfie camera and balls sensor!  Before snapchatting your Ball selfies, you must be logged into iCloud and iTunes first, before you can download the exclusive Beyonce track.

Ah okay. The ideological axe to grind. This is why I don't really get into political or religious discussions either. Everyone in them is firmly rooted in their beliefs and lives in their own little echo chamber so they never have to be challenged to think beyond their preconceived notions. To each his own.

[Wilikon]

So you've made a thread defending Apple and their move regarding bitcoin, but only now realized Apple forcing bitcoin out of its ecosystem was bad? I don't know about your thread so I could be wrong.

Better late than never I guess. I love my ipad and my 11 year old ipod, but windows 8.1 all the way baby! (and Ubuntu, and Lightworks and Gimp and Krita + cheap tablet from monoprice.com )

So many options on the creative front. No need to love the golden cage exclusively anymore. Jobs is dead.

[right wing authoritarian]

I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?

[runam0k]

I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?

Where have you been?  Nokia has been making Windows Phone based smartphones for a while now -- the Lumia range.  Windows Phone has a couple of Bitcoin wallet apps too, AFAIK.

I really like Windows Phone except for the app situation -- apps always land on iOS and Android first and if and when they do arrive on Windows Phone, they are almost always inferior.  Key apps too, like Spotify.

[fryarminer]

I have a couple apps that I have developed.
When Apple banned the Blockchain app from the App Store back when, I made the switch. Got a Nexus 5. The phone is amazing. It doesn't have the bloat wear that slows down most other Android phones.
After the switch my eyes were opened and I saw that the future is to get away from Apple. Having an iPhone is so yesterday. Most people want Android now.
And what's better is that there are none of the many restrictions that Apple gives for apps on Android. So many apps with identical names by the same company are better on Android than on Apple. Line2 works seamlessly on Android. On iOS it simply doesn't work the way it should. Pandora has more features on Android than iOS.
I updated my own app for Android, and made it better than the iOS version. Simple things like pinch-to-zoom and scrolling work better on my app in the Android version rather than the iOS.

All of this because of restrictions that Apple puts. Little restrictions like Line2 not being able to have access to ringtones. Or that Gyft cannot accept bitcoin payments in their app.

I'm done with Apple. And I've had every Apple device that has come out since the first iPhone. I've walked away.

[xDan]

I have tried Linux (Ubuntu), and Windows. Though I liked using Ubuntu, the one thing I missed was the quality, and quantity of apps. Sure there are open source apps, but replacing PixelMator? GFL finding a decent replacement. Don't say GIMP. I have used it and it's not a PixelMator replacement.

My advice: Have another machine lying around, perhaps that you just use for idle web browsing or something? Or a machine that other people can use? Install Linux on it. That way, at least you'll be supporting a more open system a little, and you will perhaps become more familiar with it and able to inform others of the advantages and limitations. And maybe, one day, the apps you need will get ported...

[Wilikon]

I heard that Microsoft has bought into Nokia, so we may see a Nokia smart phone running windows. Assuming anyone would buy such a thing it would be interesting to know what their approach will be to Bitcoin apps. Maybe we should start lobbying early?

A quick search on the Windows app store. This app store is definitely bitcoin friendly




More about Windows phone 8.1... While waiting for that Ubuntu phone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p6zmZQRTzE

[ParsnipCommander]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

http://star98radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/freedom.jpeg

[BitchicksHusband]

I know that the enemy's enemy is not always a friend. But in this case, shouldn't we take Samsung's side? At least they will help in financially draining Apple, by capturing their market share.  

As bitcoin users, we should (well, Android's side, it doesn't necessarily have to be Samsung).

[cryptoanarchist]

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   

+1

[Wilikon]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin 

[ParsnipCommander]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

http://star98radio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/freedom.jpeg

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin 

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.

[ChuckBuck]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin 

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.

Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.

[Bit_Happy]

Yeah, especially if the user hates using the other product. (That's basically like telling me to use Android/Windows Phone even though I hate those OS's)

If users use Apple products, GET OVER IT. The time wasted by bashing people for the products they use can be spent on something better than bashing.

I couldn't care less what people use - they are more than entitled to burn their money (me included) on a closed system that is all about supporting corporate greed. What I don't understand is the rediculous nature of the Apple fandom (not the average user) given that their innovation has pretty much dissipated.

As with everything else there are two sides to the coin. First of all the idea that "corporate greed" or profit as those without an axe to grind is a bad thing is simply wrong. "Corporate greed" has given us the automobile, light bulb, electricity, the internet, jets that can take us anywhere in the world in hours instead of days or even years. The ability to turn your ideals and talents into money is a great thing.

Apple fans are passionate. I talk to them every day in my job and they are a fairly tech savvy and very passionate group. The remind me of bitcoin owners. 

I respectfully disagree.  They're usually misguided, blind, non tech savvy followers that like to tweet and take selfies.

Mostly chicks, soccer Moms, and teenage girls.   

Any self respecting, independent thinking, knowledgeable and tech savvy grown man has an Android phone.  Thought this was a known fact!   

A quick search for "take selfies apple iphone" finds this non tech savvy soccer Mom.   



...and this "misguided chick"


Here are the mainstream Apple users:

[ChuckBuck]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin 

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.

Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.

Yes, Apple. These companies have incredibly complex relationships, IP, tech partnerships, and legal considerations. Who knows what kind of deep politics is going on in Apple regarding BTC. A lot of big investors in bitcoin have stakes (or relationships) in companies competing with varying degrees with Apple. My point stands though - I have faith in the future.

Seriously we need to create a solid foundation and ecosystem (which is happening) first and then let Apple decide then. It's still murky, but the water is getting clearer each month.

Wouldn't it behoove them to allow Bitcoin apps in their marketplace if their direct competitor Google does?

It's bad enough Apple is getting shitted on by Samsung, but pretty much all Android phones.  Even Windows phones has Bitcoin apps.

Apple used to be about innovation, pushing the envelope, and thinking outside the box.

Now their just content in milking their sheeple(badly I might add).  RIP Steve Jobs.

[Wilikon]

You guys, please don't be defeated yet... REMEMBER WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO!

Remember the price 2 years ago. Remember the nay-sayers 2 years ago. Where are we now? Remember where we are!!

You are maybe in the wrong thread? He lost faith in Apple. not bitcoin 

Exactly... I'm saying give these companies time.

Give which company time?  Apple?!?

They had the Blockchain app on their iTunes App Store for 2 years then remove it immediately after the Shrem arrest:

http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/06/technology/apple-bitcoin/


No warning, no reason, thousands of bitcoiners without a wallet to download.

This is not a company that deserves your loyalty or dollars.

Yes, Apple. These companies have incredibly complex relationships, IP, tech partnerships, and legal considerations. Who knows what kind of deep politics is going on in Apple regarding BTC. A lot of big investors in bitcoin have stakes (or relationships) in companies competing with varying degrees with Apple. My point stands though - I have faith in the future.

Seriously we need to create a solid foundation and ecosystem (which is happening) first and then let Apple decide then. It's still murky, but the water is getting clearer each month.

Apple does not need us to decide. They already did regarding bitcoin. Nothing "murky" about their decision. I will never buy an iphone.

http://youtu.be/DuQZTAJ2KLk