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Title: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: + on April 25, 2014, 07:12:22 AM
Why Nxt is the future?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 25, 2014, 08:11:01 AM
Just an introduction:

Quote
Nxt is considered a second-generation cryptocurrency, and it provides a new platform for a full de-centralized economy.  With all the alternative coins coming out that only change things such as hashing mechanism, time between blocks, starting difficulty, and so on, Nxt brings much much more to the table and was designed this way from the ground up.

It is not an "alt coin" like litecoin, peercoin, and other variants whose code is based on Bitcoin's source code.  It is written from scratch, in all-new source code. The Nxt Source Code was first partially released in January 3d, 2014 and fully released by Jean-Luc, the main developer, in March 1st, 2014. You can evaluate it here.
It provides built-in support for robust features such as a decentralized peer-to-peer exchange, voting system, messaging/chat, decentralized DNS, and options for instant transactions. Many Bitcoin-based currencies implement one or two of these features on top of the existing Bitcoin network. Nxt implements all of them on an improved network model that is built for speed and scale.

It is 100% Proof of Stake (PoS), versus the proof of work (PoW) mechanism the vast majority of other coins are based on.  Instead of using powerful computers to "mine" new coins, Nxt leverages the balances of existing accounts to "forge" blocks, rewarding forgers with transaction fees. The Proof-of-Stake algorithm is efficient enough to run on smartphones and small devices like the Raspberry Pi platform. In addition, this method effectively removes a large security risk inherent in most other coins: the issue of a 51% attack and many of the other vulnerabilities inherent to Proof-of-Work coins are gone. However, currently there's also mining pools available that deliver payout in Nxt if you want to mine, such as Hashrate.org and NxtPool.org.

The energy efficiency of Nxt network makes it a green cryptocurrency, not sharing the negative ecological impact of proof-of-work. Several extensive calculations have been made showing Nxt is, at least, several hundred times more energy and cost efficient than Bitcoin. You can read the Nxt Network Energy and Cost Efficiency Analysis document.

It was announced weeks in advance, unlike mere hours like most coins.  Based on an injection of 21BTC by 73 original stakeholders, 1 billion Nxt coins were ejected from the Nxt genesis block and are currently being distributed to thousands of account holds through giveaways, trades, and bounties for ongoing development of the platform. Nxt is listed on CoinMarketCap and it can be traded in multiple exchanges, such as BTER, DGEX, Cryptsy, Poloniex or Bittrex, among others.

Soon, Nxt will have a very slick feature called "Transparent Forging", which will allow each user's client to automatically determine which server node will generate the next block. This allows clients to send their transactions directly to that node, minimizing transaction times. Immediate and high-priority transactions can be processed for additional fees. An equally important feature of Transparent Forging is an outstanding security feature of the protocol, which can temporarily reduce to zero the forging power of nodes who should generate the next block but do not – penalizing accounts that do not actively support the network, and distributing that power to nodes that do. With transparent forging, even a 90% majority owner of all Nxt will be prevented from branching out and forcing a forked blockchain: if a node has 90% of all Nxt, and doesn't generate a block when scheduled, the system will reduce its forging power to zero temporarily to prevent a bad fork from being forced.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: zvs on April 25, 2014, 08:35:10 AM
Because I'm not done making OppaiCoin yet


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Orgazmo on April 25, 2014, 09:48:08 AM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on April 25, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!

That's forging in a POS currency. You can 'mine' NXT with hashrate.org, if you want POW experience.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: lopalcar on April 25, 2014, 10:25:24 AM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!

That's forging in a POS currency. You can 'mine' NXT with hashrate.org, if you want POW experience.

Don't bother, if he can't see what nxt is and only care about mining, let him do what he want, is like talking to the wall... he is comparing another shitclone to nxt again  ::)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 25, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!

I bet my left arm you've never got any NXTs.

It seems you actually had some NXT.  :-X

I see the problem is you were in NXT to "become rich forging", and that is stupid as hell.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Huangww on April 25, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
face the reality


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: nextgencoin on April 25, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
I think the bigger question is not that NXT is the future but the major things NXT innovated and first brought to the Crypto world are the future. ie Decentralized  trading (MtGox taught us all why that is important), plus ability to trade other things including commodities and fiat, This goes along with privacy but I think Darkcoin is doing more for that than NXT, mining in a green way, ability to send other forms of information along the network etc.

So I think the issue is not about NXT but who brings these things to market first in a way that encourages mass adoption. Why? Because just like banks that actually lose money to get young kids saving at banks with giveaways etc cause they know once they get the average person hooked into a system they tend to stick with it just out of apathy and feelings of familiarity. So NXT might not be the one that everyone ends up using, there are clones that have the same functions like NEM, NXTL, there are new codes with similar functions like EXO and Qora. And there is bound to be more in the future that try to make the best system that brings together all the things people want in a decentralized system.

And so once a person gets comfortable inside a wallet doing all they need to do then I think the race is over. New coins or new systems will simply have to integrate with that main system. While Bitcoin is great I believe it will just be one of hundreds of currencies that will trade within a future system. What we are in is akin to the Microsoft Apple battle of dominance for PC or Android and OS for mobile. In fact Apple or Android are just as likely to be the winners in crypto if you can see a bigger picture cause they have the leverage to buy up innovation and put an Apple/Android logo on it. Though I guess thats gonna be pretty hard with decentralization but I expect big players to want the innovation of NXT without the decentralized bit, Ripple anyone?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: EvilDave on April 25, 2014, 11:19:32 AM
What NXT is going to become, (if things go as planned) is the 'One Ring' of crypto:
NXT will rule them all.

With AE and gateways in place, all other cryptos can be traded from within the NXT system.......no more need for exchanges, no more MtGox, CryptoRush, etc. situations.
Trustless, decentralised trading will make centralised exchanges obselete in the medium to long term.
Couple this with the ability to issue assets over the AE:  people will able to create pretty much any kind of virtual asset from within NXT.
Why go to the trouble of creating, for example, a new coin from the ground up, when you can issue anything you can imagine on top of the NXT blockchain?  


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: + on April 25, 2014, 11:23:35 AM
Because I'm not done making OppaiCoin yet
What's OppaiCoin?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: nextgencoin on April 25, 2014, 12:00:10 PM
What NXT is going to become, (if things go as planned) ir the 'One Ring' of crypto:
NXT will rule them all.

With AE and gateways in place, all other cryptos can be traded from within the NXT system.......no more need for exchanges, no more MtGox, CryptoRush, etc. situations.
Trustless, decentralised trading will make centralised exchanges obselete in the medium to long term.
Couple this with the ability to issue assets over the AE:  people will able to create pretty much any kind of virtual asset from within NXT.
Why go to the trouble of creating, for example, a new coin from the ground up, when you can issue anything you can imagine on top of the NXT blockchain? 


But surely NXT has no no more power to be the 'one' than even one of its clones. If everyone gets on board with NEM then why would people need to go to NXT? Plus people might chose different platforms to do the same things. Some NXT, Some NEM, some NXTL. Many might use a few of them.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: MadisonC on April 25, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!
Yin & Yang coins is very good coins. Rising quickly these days.

I think the NXT now lack of financial support, obviously weaker


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: EvilDave on April 25, 2014, 12:36:42 PM
What NXT is going to become, (if things go as planned) ir the 'One Ring' of crypto:
NXT will rule them all.

With AE and gateways in place, all other cryptos can be traded from within the NXT system.......no more need for exchanges, no more MtGox, CryptoRush, etc. situations.
Trustless, decentralised trading will make centralised exchanges obselete in the medium to long term.
Couple this with the ability to issue assets over the AE:  people will able to create pretty much any kind of virtual asset from within NXT.
Why go to the trouble of creating, for example, a new coin from the ground up, when you can issue anything you can imagine on top of the NXT blockchain? 

But surely NXT has no more power to be the 'one' than even one of its clones. If everyone gets on board with NEM then why would people need to go to NXT? Plus people might chose different platforms to do the same things. Some NXT, Some NEM, some NXTL. Many might use a few of them.

NEM seems to be heading in a different direction to NXT, concentrating more on first gen features (ie using it like money) whereas NXT is concentrating on its 2nd generation functinality, such as the AE and other advanced applications.

But, yeah, in principle, any NXT clone could become the 'One Ring', providing they can actually implement the advanced feature set. Look at how NAS went: a very badly implemented clone that seems to have been little more than an attempt to cash in on NXT.
Don't forget that there is a hell of a lot of development work and infrastructure creation going into NXT right now, while most NXT clones are still figuring out how to launch.

One of the basic concepts behind NXT is that NXT will offer such a range of features that people simply won't need to look beyond the NXT system.

One thing for sure, the next few months are going to be very interesting in the 2nd gen crypto world.
(Just for clarity: I'm a NEM stakeholder, so I would be quite happy to see NEM succeed.)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: TaunSew on April 25, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
Currency, even gold, has always been fiat in the literal sense, fiat being faith.  There has been too many scandals in the NxT camp to make it a currency.

NEM will be a contender for a currency based on a combination of innovation and distribution to 3000 stakeholders.  We already have more activity on BTT at our pre-launch stage than NxT had in 2013.



Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: techboy on April 25, 2014, 12:51:35 PM
This will be an interesting match up between nxt and nem


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: jc2alvarez on April 25, 2014, 01:34:56 PM
Just an introduction:

Quote
Nxt is considered a second-generation cryptocurrency, and it provides a new platform for a full de-centralized economy.  With all the alternative coins coming out that only change things such as hashing mechanism, time between blocks, starting difficulty, and so on, Nxt brings much much more to the table and was designed this way from the ground up.

It is not an "alt coin" like litecoin, peercoin, and other variants whose code is based on Bitcoin's source code.  It is written from scratch, in all-new source code. The Nxt Source Code was first partially released in January 3d, 2014 and fully released by Jean-Luc, the main developer, in March 1st, 2014. You can evaluate it here.
It provides built-in support for robust features such as a decentralized peer-to-peer exchange, voting system, messaging/chat, decentralized DNS, and options for instant transactions. Many Bitcoin-based currencies implement one or two of these features on top of the existing Bitcoin network. Nxt implements all of them on an improved network model that is built for speed and scale.

It is 100% Proof of Stake (PoS), versus the proof of work (PoW) mechanism the vast majority of other coins are based on.  Instead of using powerful computers to "mine" new coins, Nxt leverages the balances of existing accounts to "forge" blocks, rewarding forgers with transaction fees. The Proof-of-Stake algorithm is efficient enough to run on smartphones and small devices like the Raspberry Pi platform. In addition, this method effectively removes a large security risk inherent in most other coins: the issue of a 51% attack and many of the other vulnerabilities inherent to Proof-of-Work coins are gone. However, currently there's also mining pools available that deliver payout in Nxt if you want to mine, such as Hashrate.org and NxtPool.org.

The energy efficiency of Nxt network makes it a green cryptocurrency, not sharing the negative ecological impact of proof-of-work. Several extensive calculations have been made showing Nxt is, at least, several hundred times more energy and cost efficient than Bitcoin. You can read the Nxt Network Energy and Cost Efficiency Analysis document.

It was announced weeks in advance, unlike mere hours like most coins.  Based on an injection of 21BTC by 73 original stakeholders, 1 billion Nxt coins were ejected from the Nxt genesis block and are currently being distributed to thousands of account holds through giveaways, trades, and bounties for ongoing development of the platform. Nxt is listed on CoinMarketCap and it can be traded in multiple exchanges, such as BTER, DGEX, Cryptsy, Poloniex or Bittrex, among others.

Soon, Nxt will have a very slick feature called "Transparent Forging", which will allow each user's client to automatically determine which server node will generate the next block. This allows clients to send their transactions directly to that node, minimizing transaction times. Immediate and high-priority transactions can be processed for additional fees. An equally important feature of Transparent Forging is an outstanding security feature of the protocol, which can temporarily reduce to zero the forging power of nodes who should generate the next block but do not – penalizing accounts that do not actively support the network, and distributing that power to nodes that do. With transparent forging, even a 90% majority owner of all Nxt will be prevented from branching out and forcing a forked blockchain: if a node has 90% of all Nxt, and doesn't generate a block when scheduled, the system will reduce its forging power to zero temporarily to prevent a bad fork from being forced.

Interesting.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: EvilDave on April 25, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
Currency, even gold, has always been fiat in the literal sense, fiat being faith.  There has been too many scandals in the NxT camp to make it a currency.

NEM will be a contender for a currency based on a combination of innovation and distribution to 3000 stakeholders.  We already have more activity on BTT at our pre-launch stage than NxT had in 2013.


I'm so not getting into a NXT vs NEM debate, as I have a stake in both......but which scandals ?
Using this reasoning Bitcoin can never make it as a currency.

NXTs original distribution could have been better, but don't forget that NXT was very much a pioneer with its IPO.
After NXT launched last November, an IPO became the flavour of the month and now pretty much every new crypto launches with an IPO-like structure.
But despite all of the effort that various devs have put in to make a "fair" IPO people still complain, and I can bet u all of the money in the universe that NEM will also get hassled for it's IPO/initial distribution.....and, btw, we both know that NEM does not have 3000 unique, individual stakeholders. I'd guess more like a 1000. Remember the guy who claimed to have 100 NEM stakes and was busy selling them off at 0.25 BTC per stake ?

Any other scandals to address ?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Spoetnik on April 25, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
nice subtle advertising  ::)

one dummy shell account answering another dummy shell accounts fake question lol


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: TaunSew on April 25, 2014, 02:23:36 PM
Currency, even gold, has always been fiat in the literal sense, fiat being faith.  There has been too many scandals in the NxT camp to make it a currency.

NEM will be a contender for a currency based on a combination of innovation and distribution to 3000 stakeholders.  We already have more activity on BTT at our pre-launch stage than NxT had in 2013.


I'm so not getting into a NXT vs NEM debate, as I have a stake in both......but which scandals ?
Using this reasoning Bitcoin can never make it as a currency.

NXTs original distribution could have been better, but don't forget that NXT was very much a pioneer with its IPO.
After NXT launched last November, an IPO became the flavour of the month and now pretty much every new crypto launches with an IPO-like structure.
But despite all of the effort that various devs have put in to make a "fair" IPO people still complain, and I can bet u all of the money in the universe that NEM will also get hassled for it's IPO/initial distribution.....and, btw, we both know that NEM does not have 3000 unique, individual stakeholders. I'd guess more like a 1000. Remember the guy who claimed to have 100 NEM stakes and was busy selling them off at 0.25 BTC per stake ?

Any other scandals to address ?


There was one troll who claimed 100 and that's your proof that 2000 stakes were fake?  Dubious claim you made and even if it were true (not ) it's still a better distribution than every other alt.

NxT had 73 initial wallets and majority was owned by 20 who each invested 1.5 BTC each, the reason we don't encounter many NxT whales is probably because those 20 wallets were really 5 people at most.

Obscure IPOs like NxT will always have more sockpuppets than smaller distributions involving more people


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: qbd1313 on April 25, 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Why Nxt is the future?
Because Nxt will change the world :D


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: EvilDave on April 25, 2014, 03:13:23 PM
nice subtle advertising  ::)

one dummy shell account answering another dummy shell accounts fake question lol

Who u calling a dummy shell, Captain miss-the-point?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: EvilDave on April 25, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
Currency, even gold, has always been fiat in the literal sense, fiat being faith.  There has been too many scandals in the NxT camp to make it a currency.

NEM will be a contender for a currency based on a combination of innovation and distribution to 3000 stakeholders.  We already have more activity on BTT at our pre-launch stage than NxT had in 2013.


I'm so not getting into a NXT vs NEM debate, as I have a stake in both......but which scandals ?
Using this reasoning Bitcoin can never make it as a currency.

NXTs original distribution could have been better, but don't forget that NXT was very much a pioneer with its IPO.
After NXT launched last November, an IPO became the flavour of the month and now pretty much every new crypto launches with an IPO-like structure.
But despite all of the effort that various devs have put in to make a "fair" IPO people still complain, and I can bet u all of the money in the universe that NEM will also get hassled for it's IPO/initial distribution.....and, btw, we both know that NEM does not have 3000 unique, individual stakeholders. I'd guess more like a 1000. Remember the guy who claimed to have 100 NEM stakes and was busy selling them off at 0.25 BTC per stake ?

Any other scandals to address ?


There was one troll who claimed 100 and that's your proof that 2000 stakes were fake?  Dubious claim you made and even if it were true (not ) it's still a better distribution than every other alt.

NxT had 73 initial wallets and majority was owned by 20 who each invested 1.5 BTC each, the reason we don't encounter many NxT whales is probably because those 20 wallets were really 5 people at most.

Obscure IPOs like NxT will always have more sockpuppets than smaller distributions involving more people

Chill yr boots, TS. It's a guess, time will tell. Dont think i'm all that wrong, though.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 25, 2014, 04:43:38 PM
Because I'm not done making OppaiCoin yet
When will this be finished?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: zvs on April 25, 2014, 05:27:22 PM
Oppais must grow!!!


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: 2Kool4Skewl on April 25, 2014, 06:02:06 PM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!



Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: zuqka on April 25, 2014, 06:17:56 PM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!


hehe :)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 25, 2014, 06:18:30 PM
Oppais must grow!!!
Are you trolling?
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!
Nice image there.  :D


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: techboy on April 26, 2014, 02:20:32 AM
Frankly speaking it is hard to compare the two.  NEM doesn't have a technology roadmap released yet.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 26, 2014, 02:32:07 AM
NXT is scum.You need to put in 5 or more BTC's to forge something.In two months i forged 0 NXT with 19000 NXT in my wallet,and generated two blocks( 0 NXT each) Now I sold all my NXT and bought Yin & Yang coins!


haha, That picture shows exactly how one who knows something about Nxt would react to the post


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: + on April 26, 2014, 07:27:00 AM
nice subtle advertising  ::)

one dummy shell account answering another dummy shell accounts fake question lol
You are just a conspiracier.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: researchsupportcoin on April 26, 2014, 01:22:33 PM
We'll see if the start of the Asset Exchange in 15 days from now will boost NXT: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 26, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
We'll see if the start of the Asset Exchange in 15 days from now will boost NXT: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/
The release of Asset Exchange will only be the first step. Many big stuffs will follows one by one. A lot of things that most people take for granted today will be changed by Nxt forever. We will see the world be changed in front of us.

Those interesting in Nxt really should go to https://nxtforum.org/ and see by yourself what the devs have been busy developing.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: kelsey on April 26, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 26, 2014, 02:50:59 PM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


If you think Nxt innovations are just about new code plus some funny features, you are totally wrong. Don't trust me, do some research by yourself.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 26, 2014, 02:53:45 PM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


I can prove you wrong just directing you to the "technical disscusion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Momimaus on April 26, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
You can clone whatever you want, the original will always be a step ahead. Nobody trust a team that just clones.
Or does somebody know a clone that can overtake bitcoin?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: pandacoin on April 26, 2014, 09:35:03 PM
Why Nxt is the future?


Nxt is not the future. Don't lose your money with these type of scams.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: chanc3r on April 26, 2014, 09:36:09 PM
What NXT is going to become, (if things go as planned) ir the 'One Ring' of crypto:
NXT will rule them all.

With AE and gateways in place, all other cryptos can be traded from within the NXT system.......no more need for exchanges, no more MtGox, CryptoRush, etc. situations.
Trustless, decentralised trading will make centralised exchanges obselete in the medium to long term.
Couple this with the ability to issue assets over the AE:  people will able to create pretty much any kind of virtual asset from within NXT.
Why go to the trouble of creating, for example, a new coin from the ground up, when you can issue anything you can imagine on top of the NXT blockchain?  

But surely NXT has no no more power to be the 'one' than even one of its clones. If everyone gets on board with NEM then why would people need to go to NXT? Plus people might chose different platforms to do the same things. Some NXT, Some NEM, some NXTL. Many might use a few of them.

NXTL and NEM are more mutations than clones, they are developing into different beasts, and most NXTers respect what they are doing and some are in these communities too - this is good for PoS - the more ideas and innovation different coins drive the better. There is another interesting one lurking called NHZ which has yet to reveal its unique proposition but I hope it will.

We should respect coins that are taking the technology and have the skills to improve and innovate further, the cut, rename and paste is another matter...

When is comes to 'clones' - people who only have the skills to copy and imitate bleeding edge technology often do it badly because they don't fully understand it. Then you get crypto's with the same characteristics as real world cheap imitations of cutting edge products, they don't work as well and you can't rely on them... I think when some of these simple copies try to copy some of NXTs even more advanced features they will simply find it very difficult.

The NXT community make this possible, we moved off BCT because we had outgrown it and it is now thriving and even bigger on nxtforum.org


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: TaunSew on April 26, 2014, 09:36:35 PM
We'll see if the start of the Asset Exchange in 15 days from now will boost NXT: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/
The release of Asset Exchange will only be the first step. Many big stuffs will follows one by one. A lot of things that most people take for granted today will be changed by Nxt forever. We will see the world be changed in front of us.

Those interesting in Nxt really should go to https://nxtforum.org/ and see by yourself what the devs have been busy developing.

Cool.  While the price temporarily goes up, the whales will sell.  Scam.  A lot of people who buy into that will be left holding the bag like usual.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: kelsey on April 27, 2014, 01:44:45 AM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


I can prove you wrong just directing you to the "technical disscusion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/)

wtf's a link to ur crappy cult site going to prove?
lol noob I base my comments on being in nxt early on, testing it, even trying to explain to the original dev the security hole I could drive a truck throw.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 27, 2014, 03:55:02 AM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


I can prove you wrong just directing you to the "technical disscusion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/)

wtf's a link to ur crappy cult site going to prove?
lol noob I base my comments on being in nxt early on, testing it, even trying to explain to the original dev the security hole I could drive a truck throw.

One can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Dare to say what's the hole or you are just trolling.
people found security issues were rewarded nicely.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 27, 2014, 04:09:41 AM
We'll see if the start of the Asset Exchange in 15 days from now will boost NXT: http://www.nxtcommunity.org/
The release of Asset Exchange will only be the first step. Many big stuffs will follows one by one. A lot of things that most people take for granted today will be changed by Nxt forever. We will see the world be changed in front of us.

Those interesting in Nxt really should go to https://nxtforum.org/ and see by yourself what the devs have been busy developing.

Cool.  While the price temporarily goes up, the whales will sell.  Scam.  A lot of people who buy into that will be left holding the bag like usual.

Nxt holders will make money from Nxt but not by persuading others to buy. Yes, some will buy and some will sell as what happens to any other cryptocurrency everyday. However, the key point is that a lot of businesses using Nxt as tools in addition to as the currency will be built, that's where the main profit will come from and why we call Nxt a platform/ecosystem.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: kelsey on April 27, 2014, 10:20:39 AM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


I can prove you wrong just directing you to the "technical disscusion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/)

wtf's a link to ur crappy cult site going to prove?
lol noob I base my comments on being in nxt early on, testing it, even trying to explain to the original dev the security hole I could drive a truck throw.

One can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Dare to say what's the hole or you are just trolling.
people found security issues were rewarded nicely.

there's nothing nxt could offer me, i'd already communicated with the original dev about it.

hell i'd even pay to get rid of all the worthless trash coins around here including nxt ;)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 27, 2014, 10:34:28 AM
Why Nxt is the future?


Nxt is not the future. Don't lose your money with these type of scams.
It is not a scam, that is for sure. But then again I do not see that much potential in this coin.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Isildur23 on April 27, 2014, 11:13:09 AM
Who will launch the fastest decentralised asset exchange?  :-*


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 27, 2014, 02:36:09 PM
Who will launch the fastest decentralised asset exchange?  :-*

NXT will do!!!!!!  :)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 27, 2014, 02:59:35 PM
there's nothing nxt could offer me
That's ok. Nxt does not do everything.  :)
Or you just didn't bother to have a look at what Nxt can offer now and in the near future.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 27, 2014, 03:03:42 PM
It is not a scam, that is for sure. But then again I do not see that much potential in this coin.
Welcome to the "Technical Discussion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Wipeout2097 on April 27, 2014, 03:53:43 PM
nxt innovation (and I use the term loosely) for innovations sake, feature people don't need or want, if you can't sell it too the crypto community you can't sell it to the public.

people seem to think if someone doesn't copy paste and writes their own code that it makes for innovations.  ::)


I can prove you wrong just directing you to the "technical disscusion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/ (https://nxtforum.org/)

wtf's a link to ur crappy cult site going to prove?
lol noob I base my comments on being in nxt early on, testing it, even trying to explain to the original dev the security hole I could drive a truck throw.

One can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Dare to say what's the hole or you are just trolling.
people found security issues were rewarded nicely.

there's nothing nxt could offer me, i'd already communicated with the original dev about it.

hell i'd even pay to get rid of all the worthless trash coins around here including nxt ;)
You're still at the stage of wasting your time. Nothing of this invalidates the "technical" aspects of the coin per se, but when I grabbed some €'s out of an account and "invested" on alts, I surely would have considered buying Nxt if it weren't for the cultists, as you call them. Even without them, who in their right mind (which I really wasn't at the time, to be frank), care about a coin with microscopic PoS, let alone the dumpers ready to pour above your head? Ultimately, I'm glad the shills forced me to pay attention, and made me stay way from Nxt.

I also had the temptation of posting on fake interesting hype Nxt threads, which now I'm very restricted on. Sometimes one just have to let it go and don't interrupt the shill's circlejerk. Honestly, the more I post, the more I bump and feed this garbage.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Isildur23 on April 27, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
Competent opinion

Man, please don't restrict yourslef! You post in every Nxt thread to say how much you hate it and then more people get curious about Nxt and become addicted to it.
Please post more before we launch the decentralised asset exchange (which would be far much faster then anything else), which is on block 135000.
Hurry up, the Digital goods store is coming shortly after that!


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 28, 2014, 03:09:45 PM

You're still at the stage of wasting your time. Nothing of this invalidates the "technical" aspects of the coin per se, but when I grabbed some €'s out of an account and "invested" on alts, I surely would have considered buying Nxt if it weren't for the cultists, as you call them. Even without them, who in their right mind (which I really wasn't at the time, to be frank), care about a coin with microscopic PoS, let alone the dumpers ready to pour above your head? Ultimately, I'm glad the shills forced me to pay attention, and made me stay way from Nxt.

I also had the temptation of posting on fake interesting hype Nxt threads, which now I'm very restricted on. Sometimes one just have to let it go and don't interrupt the shill's circlejerk. Honestly, the more I post, the more I bump and feed this garbage.

LOL

I quote this post for the future laughs. Let's revisit this in some months.  ::)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 28, 2014, 07:40:16 PM
It is not a scam, that is for sure. But then again I do not see that much potential in this coin.
Welcome to the "Technical Discussion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/
Why would I join that forum?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 28, 2014, 08:09:35 PM
It is not a scam, that is for sure. But then again I do not see that much potential in this coin.
Welcome to the "Technical Discussion" section of NXT forum https://nxtforum.org/
Why would I join that forum?

To learn and stop talking nosense


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 28, 2014, 08:17:12 PM

To learn and stop talking nosense
It's not worth my time. I'm not talking nonsense. Nxt hasn't offered anything that would make me slightly interested.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ChuckOne on April 28, 2014, 08:19:19 PM
It's not worth my time. I'm not talking nonsense. Nxt hasn't offered anything that would make me slightly interested.

What would you make you interested in an altcoin?


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Momimaus on April 28, 2014, 09:27:00 PM

To learn and stop talking nosense
It's not worth my time. I'm not talking nonsense. Nxt hasn't offered anything that would make me slightly interested.
If NXT has nothing for you than there isn´t any coin for you.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 28, 2014, 09:43:46 PM
If NXT has nothing for you than there isn´t any coin for you.
So you're saying that NXT is the best coin? ::)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 29, 2014, 03:19:26 AM
Why would I join that forum?
To find out whether you can see the potential of Nxt there.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 29, 2014, 03:26:35 AM
Nxt hasn't offered anything that would make me slightly interested.
That could be understood because most of the exciting features of Nxt has not released yet. But they are coming soon.
That's why I recommend you to the forum to have a look at what's developing and what's coming next.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 29, 2014, 03:39:31 AM
So you're saying that NXT is the best coin? ::)
To be fair, it's the most promising one at the moment as far as I know.
When the promised features are released (they will be soon), it will be at least one of the best.

And Nxt is much more than a coin, that's why BCNext didn't use a coin in its name.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: mrsanny on April 30, 2014, 05:47:49 AM
Yes,Nxt is the most promising coin in the future!


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ilic on April 30, 2014, 06:01:51 AM
so with NXT, if i have a wallet with say 1000 NXT, how long does it take to 'forge' new coins and how much will i get in return?

is there a minimum of coins you have to hold?

can someone give me a quick summary please?  if you dont 'mine' nxt but rather earn them just by running a wallet then i'll give it a go.  I've never really read much into the whole proof of stake thing.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 30, 2014, 07:20:55 AM
so with NXT, if i have a wallet with say 1000 NXT, how long does it take to 'forge' new coins and how much will i get in return?

is there a minimum of coins you have to hold?

can someone give me a quick summary please?  if you dont 'mine' nxt but rather earn them just by running a wallet then i'll give it a go.  I've never really read much into the whole proof of stake thing.

Don't expect to earn a lot by forging. Forging income, which is just the transfer fee of the blocks your account generates, is only comparable to bank interest, or even less since most of the blocks are empty at the moment (There will be more transfers when the features are released).

The dev said the effective balance (the power you use to forge) is still in whole NXT, which means that you can forge with 1 nxt at the moment (though the chance is extremely low) but not with 0.1 nxt.

You only need to open the wallet keeping your account unlock to forge. When the Account Leasing is enabled a few days later, you can also lease your forging power (without moving your NXT from your wallet) to a pool let the pool take care of the forging, then you don't even need run anything.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: qqNxt on April 30, 2014, 10:06:27 AM
so with NXT, if i have a wallet with say 1000 NXT, how long does it take to 'forge' new coins and how much will i get in return?

is there a minimum of coins you have to hold?

can someone give me a quick summary please?  if you dont 'mine' nxt but rather earn them just by running a wallet then i'll give it a go.  I've never really read much into the whole proof of stake thing.

unfortuneate for you, nxt is not designed to earn big money while forging.
forging is there to protect your own investments therefore securing the entire network.

forging almost don't use any more electricity when run in the background so it is in your best interest to forge when you have a large stake.

nxt is bigger than just a coin, it is a full platform ready to be built on top of.
think of nxt as a mega mall/shopping centre and each nxt account that provides a service on top of the platform is a business inside that mall, when you forge you are turning on the security cams to safeguard your business.

services are, multigateways, online games, company ipos, online gambling, messengers,digital goods even crypto coin based on nxt and much more.
and its already happening.

this is why nxt is considered a true first 2nd gen, this is why nxt is the future.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on April 30, 2014, 10:13:33 AM
Some people in this forum have greatly mistaken the forging concept...  :-\

They think that spending 100$ in NXT, with a average monthly cost in electricity of 0.1$ will report similar revenue than spending 20000$ in mining equipment for BTC with a monthly electricity cost of 500$....   ::)


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: SomethingElse on April 30, 2014, 10:48:33 AM
There is no profit in forging unless somebody has more than 100,000 coins.  Even then I think it takes more than that to start consistently forging blocks, and even then some of the have 0 fees.  I forged for three weeks once after investing $1000, and finally forged a block for total fees of 0.  I turned off the forging after that.  Some people with even 100 coins might forge just to protect the network if they believe in it though. 


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on April 30, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
So you're saying that NXT is the best coin? ::)
To be fair, it's the most promising one at the moment as far as I know.
When the promised features are released (they will be soon), it will be at least one of the best.

And Nxt is much more than a coin, that's why BCNext didn't use a coin in its name.

Then you've only seen a few coins in your life. It sure isn't the most promising one either.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Shivalein on April 30, 2014, 02:10:18 PM
So you're saying that NXT is the best coin? ::)
To be fair, it's the most promising one at the moment as far as I know.
When the promised features are released (they will be soon), it will be at least one of the best.

And Nxt is much more than a coin, that's why BCNext didn't use a coin in its name.

Then you've only seen a few coins in your life. It sure isn't the most promising one either.


 :'( :'( :'(  I can´t mine decent coins   :'( :'( :'(



Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: evanxxx on April 30, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
Then you've only seen a few coins in your life. It sure isn't the most promising one either.
I think I have seen enough, I also read some whitepapers. Name some coins you think more promising than Nxt. I am open enough to hear some different opinions if they are supported by valid arguments.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: lovely89 on May 13, 2014, 02:13:43 PM
I think nxt definitely has the most promise and I found out about it just after the IPO. :( loved it from the word go.

What I'm interested in right now is eMunie,  skycoin, Ethereum and some other small coins like exo,  qora and nem. Definitely a year for Bitcoin 2.0 with nxt leading the way.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Ezravdb on May 13, 2014, 02:17:31 PM
So you're saying that NXT is the best coin? ::)
To be fair, it's the most promising one at the moment as far as I know.
When the promised features are released (they will be soon), it will be at least one of the best.

And Nxt is much more than a coin, that's why BCNext didn't use a coin in its name.

Then you've only seen a few coins in your life. It sure isn't the most promising one either.

Then name some that are more "promising".



Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on May 13, 2014, 03:12:52 PM
Then name some that are more "promising".
YinCoin YangCoin seem promising.  :D
You should view coins from a technical perspective. I can't really find a good coin when it is hidden among hundreds of topics related to copycoins.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Ezravdb on May 13, 2014, 03:17:25 PM
Then name some that are more "promising".
YinCoin YangCoin seem promising.  :D
You should view coins from a technical perspective. I can't really find a good coin when it is hidden among hundreds of topics related to copycoins.

Just as I expected, you avoid the question.

NXT nr. 1 !


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: myblues238 on May 13, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
I‘m agree that Nxt is the most promising coin in the future!


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: devphp on May 13, 2014, 05:05:18 PM
The future will be multi-faceted, NXT has good chances to be one of the main facets.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: nextgencoin on May 13, 2014, 06:12:17 PM
I‘m agree that Nxt is the most promising coin in the future!


But what do you think about this?  If NXT is king and Qora is BCNext what does that do to NXT's future?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579858.msg6710560#msg6710560



Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Lauda on May 13, 2014, 06:59:46 PM
Then name some that are more "promising".
YinCoin YangCoin seem promising.  :D
You should view coins from a technical perspective. I can't really find a good coin when it is hidden among hundreds of topics related to copycoins.

Just as I expected, you avoid the question.

NXT nr. 1 !
I did not avoid anything. There was no question mark, thereby there was no question.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: atoni on May 13, 2014, 08:22:01 PM
Most of stuff from nxt is copy from ripple, probably not exact code but the ideas.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Voluntold on May 13, 2014, 08:30:25 PM
Most of stuff from nxt is copy from ripple, probably not exact code but the ideas.

Uhh... No.  Nxt and Ripple are quite different.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: atoni on May 13, 2014, 08:35:16 PM
Most of stuff from nxt is copy from ripple, probably not exact code but the ideas.

Uhh... No.  Nxt and Ripple are quite different.

Yes it is, most of it is based on distributed exchange.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: lovely89 on May 13, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
Most of stuff from nxt is copy from ripple, probably not exact code but the ideas.

Uhh... No.  Nxt and Ripple are quite different.

Yes it is, most of it is based on distributed exchange.

GTFO troll.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: atoni on May 14, 2014, 03:44:57 AM
Nice language :) Btw, I hold Nxt too


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: person1029 on May 14, 2014, 04:48:51 AM
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Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: Andrew777 on May 14, 2014, 06:07:12 AM
Nxt is only №19 in Cryptocoins Fair Rating - http://emill.org/coins
 :-[

No, I do not think Nxt is the future of cryptocoins.


Title: Re: Why Nxt is the future?
Post by: devphp on May 14, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
Nxt is only №19 in Cryptocoins Fair Rating - http://emill.org/coins
 :-[

No, I do not think Nxt is the future of cryptocoins.

If you were around markets and trading longer, you would know that all ratings usually have sponsors or founders who 'like' certain items to be at the top and competition to be at the bottom :) Do not ever trust ratings, do your own due diligence, is the best piece of advice you can get choosing what to invest in.