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 ??? ??? My transaction has been stuck for 2 hours and not confirmed and i would really like to send more btc to something else but i cant because blockchain.info has to have no unconfirmed payments to send more :(
Transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/eb96fa05f6f1d803d0c9950347dba0c2794770c3510c7304e087fd3c0b49568b

Reasons:

Output less than 0.01 BTC

Nonstandard fee of 0.00000001 BTC, which is the same as no fee so you would have been just as well off to not send a fee at all.

If you wanted this done fast you would have needed to use the standard/recommended fee of 0.0001 BTC.

Just wait a few hours and it will most likely get done.

You are just paying 0.00000001 BTC as fee.
Free transaction normally takes a longer time to get confirmed, sometimes hours or days, and sometimes never.
You can only wait patiently now at this stage, and you may re-broadcast the tx or create a new tx a day or so later.

It should be confirmed eventually. If not you should be able to use those inputs in a later transaction once the nodes and miners forget this transaction.

If you want your transaction to be processed quickly you must send at least the minimum fee which is 0.0001 per kB, any less doesn't cut it - it's pretty much the same as having a no fee transaction. Very rarely will you be able to send without a fee and get away with quick confirmations. Just follow what your client sets and don't mess around with fees and you should be right.

How do I use the inputs later with blockchain.info?
And how would I send another payment without waiting for this one from blockchain.info?

How do I rebroadcast cast with blockchain.info?
Or do I need the client?

AFAIK, if your transaction doesn't get included in a block in a day or so, you will have your bitcoin back to your original address with blockchain.info, as if nothing has ever happened.

You could then create a new transaction, and please include min fee then.

This is perfectly normal. Especially when you don't add the minimum fee. The miner;s are going to take longer verifying your transaction.

Still been 8 hours and nothing

Give it some time.  I believe transactions with no fee added (1 satoshi really is no fee) can take up to days to process.
Next time, just add the recommended fee, 0.0001 BTC.

If I added a fee of 0.00005 would it go through?

It`s in limbo even w. the fee. It happens every once in awhile.

All you can really do is wait it out.. it`ll go through.

If I recall correctly most miners will treat that the same as no fee at all.

I've always considered this a strange concept

at what point do miners forget a transaction? I've had stuck transactions when I sent from some wallets (even with fees)

Dont worry too much, as someone mentioned earlier. It just needs a node to confirm the transaction amount.

What strange concept?

You find that it is strange to pay someone to use their resources to provide you with a service you desire?  You think everyone in the world owes you whatever you desire in exchange for nothing?


There is no specific amount of time.  Typically a few days for most of them.


How big were the transactions (in bytes)?  How much was the fee?

That was an interesting leap in logic, I don't feel compelled to clarify what 'strange concept' I was referring to, it makes your awkward non sequitur more entertaining


The client sent larger than required fees, the same amount for all transactions, but broadcast them in a way that miners would not readily accept

Is this still stuck or no?

As of the time of this response, yes it is still stuck.

Leap in logic?

OP complains that his transaction has not confirmed.

OP is told that he did not include a sufficient fee for confirmation.

You reply with:


There really isn't much of a leap there.

Either you are saying that you find the requirement to include a sufficient fee to be a strange concept...

Or you are posting off topic in the thread.


There are no guarantees with bitcoin.  Each solo miner (or pool) is free to behave however they like as far as maintaining lists of unconfirmed transactions they've received.  However, generally, most solo miners (or pools) don't bother at all remembering transactions that they don't accept.

The coins being sent were only in the sending address for less than an hour, so its priority was very low. I believe that dust transactions have very low priority to begin with anyway.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Sending There is quite some information there, I have a transaction that is stuck for weeks. You can try to double spend it and you will receive the coins back.

Just busy downloading the block chain for my desktop wallet.
Then I'll fix the prob!
Still stuck

Wow I didnt know a transaction could take this long.

This is eye opening.. esp if you need to do something immediately. Eg: if you wanted to go gamble with it.

Thanks!

It won't happen if a min fee is included in the transaction.  ;)

If you are really in a hurry to lose your money at some gambling site then send it with more than the minimum (double for example) and the miners will get it into the next available block for you.

Fees are quite affordable at the moment, it is very small. People who are sending transactions should add a transaction fee.

https://blockchain.info/tx/eb96fa05f6f1d803d0c9950347dba0c2794770c3510c7304e087fd3c0b49568b

"Transaction not found"

Once the funds are back in your wallet try sending them again - with the correct fee this time!

Good luck.

I can still see the details of the tx with the blockchain.info link.  ???

When I looked it was gone, now it is back.  So, that means it was retransmitted.  Must... wait... longer...

The receiver has the ability to re-transmit the transaction.  If they are doing so, then you'll have to try and get your new transaction transmitted after the old one disappears from the memory of most peers, but before the receiver re-transmits it. (or you could just continue to wait and hope that your old transaction will confirm eventually).

Whats worse is if you are betting .1 each time, and notice you have bet 1 hr later lol. And it comes in way later then expect at luckybit.

Send your bet with a fee larger than the minimum fee.

wow, JUST 2 hours, so maybe I m that person who has a problem cause mine is still  not confirmed and I ve been waiting from Friday!!!

Next time you need to increase the fee or send 0.01 BTC or more. No fee + low sending amount = long confirmation (if it ever does). You need one or the other: high amount or decent fee.

Hmm... so the transaction is yet to get confirmed, even after close to 100 hours (more than 4 days). I was told that one of the advantages with Bitcoin was that it could be used for micro-transactions. Seems like that is not the case.

It can be. That doesn't mean you don't have to add a fee though. A 5 cent fee on a 30 cent transaction is still much better than PayPal (which wants 30 cents PLUS a variable fee on top of that). If he added a proper fee, it would have been confirmed long ago.

There's alot of transaction volume, most pools would give those who pays fees priority. Also, he transferred 0.0006982 bitcoins which is a dust transaction, most pool would not confirm it.
-ranochigo

I had a payment stuck for two days once but I forgot to add a fee. Lesson learned.

He didn't include a fee and it didn't qualify as a priority transaction, it's never going to get in a block.  Accepting crap like that leaves you open to all sorts of problems if you're running a pool (re: horsestablebattery).

Leaving the client open will rebroadcast it every x minutes (random(30) maybe?).  If you could see the IP information I'd guess a handful or less of the nodes relayed it, and it'd be extremely unlikely that any of those are actually mining.  

You can send it for free if it's a high priority transaction -- that's when you might have to wait some hours.  Sending a transaction that isn't priority without a proper fee only gets confirmed if you're mining blocks yourself to include it (see deepbit payments).

ed: back when I used to do a lot of bitcoin transfers, I'd use a fee of .00011

So can someone break this down for me?

Whats the minimum to not wait so long. 0.01?

No that's far too high: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

I suggest 0.0001BTC for small payments.

For the fee? 0.0001 BTC. The 0.01 BTC note was made for sending a minimum of that much out (as then you don't need ANY fee and it will still go through without issues).

It would be slower than those who have fees isn't it? If you want it to confirm within 1-3 blocks, use 0.0001 as transaction fees.
-ranochigo

The normal fees range is between the 0.0001-0.0005 area "0.0001 does just fine for regular transaction". If you choose some lower fees you would need to wait more "up to days".

AFAIK, if your transaction is more than 0.01 and old enough, it will be confirmed soon even without a fee.
-ranochigo

Just a reminder, the min fee should be 0.0001 per KB.
So, for example, if your transaction size is larger than 3KB, you should put 0.0004 fee.

If your transaction size is smaller than 1,000 bytes, all outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger, the transaction is of high-priority (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Technical_info) and all your inputs are confirmed, the transaction should go through pretty soon even without a fee.

From my own personal experience, slightly more than half of them get included within the next 3 blocks and almost all of them get included within the next 6 blocks.

Did they change this? I thought it was 10 KB or below before. I've never had an issue even with a lot of inputs, so long as the output was high enough but I'm not sure if they were low or high priority transactions.