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Title: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: CoinRocka on May 26, 2014, 05:54:28 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Ron~Popeil on May 26, 2014, 05:56:39 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



This is a real opportunity for the community to do some outreach. I will be sending small amounts to friends as soon as this is launched.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: CoinRocka on May 26, 2014, 05:58:44 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



This is a real opportunity for the community to do some outreach. I will be sending small amounts to friends as soon as this is launched.

I may rejoin Facebook because of this!!   8)


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: beatljuice on May 26, 2014, 06:02:29 PM
Yes, this is pretty big news.

Buy now while we're still under $1000!


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: spazzdla on May 26, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
I'm belted in.




Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bytas on May 26, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



This is a real opportunity for the community to do some outreach. I will be sending small amounts to friends as soon as this is launched.

You are late to the party bro, used it last week to send small amounts to friends.
give their fb page some love: https://www.facebook.com/qcoin?fref=ts


https://wallet.quickcoin.co/


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: blatchcorn on May 26, 2014, 06:05:35 PM
Everyone I know has heard of bitcoin (and not because of me) - the time is ripe to go mainstream


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: DooMAD on May 26, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
Not sure this is a fantastic idea.  Might be okay if they're careful about security, but facebook isn't without issues of its own.  I often see people get "click-jacked" on facebook, where they click on something and it automatically creates a post on their wall liking/sharing it without them noticing.  Next it'll be "bit-jacked" where they click on something and it deducts a few bits from their wallet.  So combined with the usual post about third party services controlling the private keys, this also adds a nice public arena for everyone to watch while people's wallets get hacked and then it spreads around social media like wildfire with the notion that Bitcoin isn't safe to use because some third party provider did a bad job with security.

Might be an opportunity, but it's fraught with potential pitfalls.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: beetcoin on May 26, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
this sounds like a cool way to get people integrated with bitcoin, but it doesn't seem to be a real gamechanger or anything.. i'd consider wallstreet jumping in or a big corporation adopting btc a big deal.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: CoinRocka on May 26, 2014, 06:08:55 PM
this sounds like a cool way to get people integrated with bitcoin, but it doesn't seem to be a real gamechanger or anything.. i'd consider wallstreet jumping in or a big corporation adopting btc a big deal.

I'll take "Main St" over Wall St every day of the week!   8)


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Alley on May 26, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
It says this app is not available on my phone...


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Ron~Popeil on May 26, 2014, 06:20:03 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



This is a real opportunity for the community to do some outreach. I will be sending small amounts to friends as soon as this is launched.

You are late to the party bro, used it last week to send small amounts to friends.
give their fb page some love: https://www.facebook.com/qcoin?fref=ts


https://wallet.quickcoin.co/

Oh nice! Will definitely take a look. Giving people something of value is more powerful than just talking at them about it.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: spazzdla on May 26, 2014, 06:21:23 PM
It says this app is not available on my phone...

An I phone by chance?


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Alley on May 26, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
It says this app is not available on my phone...

An I phone by chance?

Droid.  Moto X.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: RockHound on May 26, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
http://www.quickcoin.co/terms


How about their fees?



Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Jesu on May 26, 2014, 08:54:06 PM
This could be really great. Hope they dont ban it though.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Yeezus on May 26, 2014, 08:55:35 PM
Very interesting. I still think Facvebook will try come up with their own coin or payment system.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: JJB on May 26, 2014, 08:59:02 PM
This is obviously good news but what the hell does buckle up buttercup mean??


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: nickenburg on May 26, 2014, 08:59:13 PM
I think this is pretty nice from Facebook.
They will make bitcoin more mainstream by doing this.
Think of all that facebook people who maybe never heard of bitcoin or are gonna try it now because of Facebook.
Remember they have so much users, really good news I would say.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on May 26, 2014, 09:00:44 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/



of course CoinDesk doesn't bother to mention the privacy concerns here.  Building a database of BTC address -> Facebook address.

-bm


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: tatu on May 26, 2014, 09:05:24 PM
I guess there's always a privacy issue with facebook  :D.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: wachtwoord on May 26, 2014, 09:06:12 PM
It's too bad they'll be using bits though.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on May 26, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
I guess there's always a privacy issue with facebook  :D.

youre naturally sacrificing your privacy by even logging onto facebook, but what this app does is create a massive database of real world identities [1] mapped to Bitcoin addresses.  They don't necessarily need to know every address to track down the owners, but knowing their social connections helps them to eliminate a lot of the possibilities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JotAOgXFxSs

curious that CoinDesk does not even mention this aspect at all. (or maybe not)

-bm

[1] and these identities include extensive info on family, friends, beliefs, tendencies, likes, etc.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Finchy on May 26, 2014, 09:11:25 PM
I'm sure those worried about their privacy or being annoymous wont use this. It's good for the bigger picture though.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on May 26, 2014, 09:13:03 PM
I'm sure those worried about their privacy or being annoymous wont use this. It's good for the bigger picture though.

what is 'the bigger picture'?


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Anduck on May 26, 2014, 09:14:56 PM
Any information about if Facebook allows this kind of things? Do they allow competitors for their own credit system?


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Finchy on May 26, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
I'm sure those worried about their privacy or being annoymous wont use this. It's good for the bigger picture though.

what is 'the bigger picture'?

Ie bitcoin going mainstream. Having people use it on facebook will help a lot.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Jesu on May 26, 2014, 09:20:19 PM
Any information about if Facebook allows this kind of things? Do they allow competitors for their own credit system?

Thats what I thought. Only time will tell.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: wachtwoord on May 26, 2014, 09:20:55 PM
I'm sure those worried about their privacy or being annoymous wont use this. It's good for the bigger picture though.

what is 'the bigger picture'?

Ie bitcoin going mainstream. Having people use it on facebook will help a lot.

Yup, you don't have to use it, other people can :)


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Finchy on May 26, 2014, 09:25:18 PM
As long as theyre using it thats all that matters.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: RawDog on May 26, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
It is total garbage.  They lose thousands of customers everyday because they don't make the application available without 'send a request'.  You must give your email so you can be spammed to hell for the next 5 years.  I just want to download the damn thing to try it.  But there is no download page.  You must 'send a request'.  The minute I see a form which ask for my email and has 'send a request' on it - I bail.  100% quit.  A real estate agent website I was on last month lost $30000 fees because his stupid page has 'send a request' on it.  My fucking request is implicit because I am on your fucking site looking at your shit.  My request is embodied in the fact that I am looking on the internet for your shit.  Don't make it hard to download your app and you have a change to get people to download it.  Force people to give their email address and 'send a request' and you will limit your users by 4:1 by my estimate.  Who has time to 'send a request'?  Just give me the fucking download page.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Cryptopher on May 26, 2014, 09:27:18 PM
Who else read the article and read QuickCoin as QuarkCoin?

I think that using this wallet will provide massive exposure for Bitcoin within the Facebook community, however it comes with privacy concerns too.

Meh.  Zuckerberg's just trying to mess with the Winklevosses again.

I don't believe that Zuckerberg has anything to do with this.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: wachtwoord on May 26, 2014, 09:29:22 PM
It is total garbage.  They lose thousands of customers everyday because they don't make the application available without 'send a request'.  You must give your email so you can be spammed to hell for the next 5 years.  I just want to download the damn thing to try it.  But there is no download page.  You must 'send a request'.  The minute I see a form which ask for my email and has 'send a request' on it - I bail.  100% quit.  A real estate agent website I was on last month lost $30000 fees because his stupid page has 'send a request' on it.  My fucking request is implicit because I am on your fucking site looking at your shit.  My request is embodied in the fact that I am looking on the internet for your shit.  Don't make it hard to download your app and you have a change to get people to download it.  Force people to give their email address and 'send a request' and you will limit your users by 4:1 by my estimate.  Who has time to 'send a request'?  Just give me the fucking download page.

You don't have a spam mail account for this?


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: keithers on May 26, 2014, 09:32:17 PM
I haven't used facebook in years... I would be like one of those people who probably doesn't even look like their facebook photo  anymore.  I will however log back in to check this out


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: cbeast on May 26, 2014, 10:06:01 PM
This is a Roach Motel. You can put bitcoins in, but can't get them out. NVM, it looks like it will take an address.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: bluemeanie1 on May 26, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
This is a Roach Motel. You can put bitcoins in, but can't get them out.

if you consider all the trouble you have to go through- the risks to your money, the fees, the volatility, and the authorities watching your every move... is it worth it?

-bm


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: tatu on May 26, 2014, 10:15:53 PM
Who else read the article and read QuickCoin as QuarkCoin?

I think that using this wallet will provide massive exposure for Bitcoin within the Facebook community, however it comes with privacy concerns too.

Meh.  Zuckerberg's just trying to mess with the Winklevosses again.

I don't believe that Zuckerberg has anything to do with this.

He wont. He could stop it though. Hopefully not though,.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: cbeast on May 26, 2014, 10:29:38 PM
This is a Roach Motel. You can put bitcoins in, but can't get them out.

if you consider all the trouble you have to go through- the risks to your money, the fees, the volatility, and the authorities watching your every move... is it worth it?

-bm

I found out how to send them back to my wallet. It's just not well documented. It's perfect for tipping small amounts and because it is off blockchain to send within FB, you don't pay mining fees.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: RockHound on May 27, 2014, 12:00:30 AM
I think this is pretty nice from Facebook.
They will make bitcoin more mainstream by doing this.
Think of all that facebook people who maybe never heard of bitcoin or are gonna try it now because of Facebook.
Remember they have so much users, really good news I would say.

There's no affiliation with Facebook whatsoever as far as I know. Just built on top of FB platform?

I'm interested in their security and fee's.

i.e would it be cheaper for me just to send my mates BTC via Electrum?

Would definitely need to find out more regarding privacy and insurance against hacks if was to load account up with xBTC.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Ron~Popeil on May 27, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
This isn't designed for hard core bit coiners that put a high value on their privacy. This is an app to bring new people to bit coin. If privacy concerns you that much there are ways around it.   


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 12:47:55 AM
It's too bad they'll be using bits though.

its not bitcoin unless it shows satoshi's


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: CoinRocka on May 27, 2014, 12:55:58 AM
This is a Roach Motel. You can put bitcoins in, but can't get them out.

if you consider all the trouble you have to go through- the risks to your money, the fees, the volatility, and the authorities watching your every move... is it worth it?

-bm


For a low balance tipping wallet yes, for all else...no.  This will allow the general public to wade into bitcoin waters.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 12:57:41 AM
I think this is pretty nice from Facebook.
They will make bitcoin more mainstream by doing this.
Think of all that facebook people who maybe never heard of bitcoin or are gonna try it now because of Facebook.
Remember they have so much users, really good news I would say.

There's no affiliation with Facebook whatsoever as far as I know. Just built on top of FB platform?

I'm interested in their security and fee's.

i.e would it be cheaper for me just to send my mates BTC via Electrum?

Would definitely need to find out more regarding privacy and insurance against hacks if was to load account up with xBTC.

that's what I thought, is it a genuine bitcoin app? that can be downloaded in the facebook browser, is this what all the facebook

money transfer license's where all about is my initial reaction, they pretended to make it sound like a money transfer service so

they could buy in on bitcoin before the price increased substantially, that's insider trading, deceitful at least, I guess now

we are supposed to believe this company is in no way associated with facebook

 is anyone using the wallet yet? is it a facebook type app?

https://wallet.www.quickcoin.co/


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: ranlo on May 27, 2014, 01:00:44 AM
Not sure this is a fantastic idea.  Might be okay if they're careful about security, but facebook isn't without issues of its own.  I often see people get "click-jacked" on facebook, where they click on something and it automatically creates a post on their wall liking/sharing it without them noticing.  Next it'll be "bit-jacked" where they click on something and it deducts a few bits from their wallet.  So combined with the usual post about third party services controlling the private keys, this also adds a nice public arena for everyone to watch while people's wallets get hacked and then it spreads around social media like wildfire with the notion that Bitcoin isn't safe to use because some third party provider did a bad job with security.

Might be an opportunity, but it's fraught with potential pitfalls.

This is a very real threat ("bit jacking"). It's also worth noting that most people that use FB don't know even the basics about Internet security and won't know what's happening. All they will know is that they had money and then didn't have it, and it can create a very negative view for Bitcoin. Considering how fast news spreads on FB, that could be a huge issue.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
someone is already saying they found a bug, not sure if its legit or not

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26aby6/quickcoin_be_careful/

what are their usernames on bitcointalk of the people that own quickcoin ?

this is Nathan Lands Facebook page who started the reddit and his picture is on the website

https://www.facebook.com/nathan.lands?fref=ts

here is a contact email in the reddit bug report page above from Nathan its also on their website

admin@quickcoin.co


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: wachtwoord on May 27, 2014, 01:28:57 AM
someone is already saying they found a bug, not sure if its legit or not

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26aby6/quickcoin_be_careful/

what are their usernames on bitcointalk of the people that own quickcoin ?

this is Nathan Lands Facebook page who started the reddit and his picture is on the website

https://www.facebook.com/nathan.lands?fref=ts

here is a contact email in the reddit bug report page above from Nathan its also on their website

admin@quickcoin.co

Already resolved :)


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 01:32:00 AM
https://www.facebook.com/QuickcoinAU

Quickcoin pty ltd in australia is this a quick coincidence?


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 01:33:08 AM


admin@quickcoin.co

Already resolved :)

are you associated in anyway with this enterprise ?



Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: wachtwoord on May 27, 2014, 01:35:38 AM


admin@quickcoin.co

Already resolved :)

are you associated in anyway with this enterprise ?



No I just read the linked Reddit page.


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 01:43:29 AM
Its seems to be unassociated with FB yet they are using the Facebook Header in the application

even if they have asked for permission to share your friends list they would have to have an agreement with

facebook to already do so, which means that their is an affiliation of some sorts, otherwise they are

just hacking your friends list plain and simple without your authority and without any agreed to terms and conditions

those on the website are not a sufficient place for terms and conditions and must be embedded within

the program installation phase, also any connection with facebook would need to be expressly

implied from the onset or its acting in a fraudulent way.

This is some amateur stuff coming from San Fransisco to say the least, its almost a compliment  :D



Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bitcoinpro on May 27, 2014, 01:48:12 AM
LOL another privacy policy is inside the dashboard once they have already accessed your friends list ,

two privacy policies both in the wrong position maybe they need to add a third one on their

facebook page, again it would be in the wrong place!


Title: Re: Buckle UP buttercup!!!
Post by: Bit_Happy on May 27, 2014, 01:49:54 AM
Buckle UP buttercup?
It appears your thread title is about a book?
http://www.mrherman.com/covers/BuckleUpButtercup-cover-small.jpg

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5197769216/h6BE18547/


I'm glad to see a new Facebook app for Bitcoin. Good news is coming so often lately, it's hard to remember all the current developments.
The security concerns are not that vital since this is for small amounts and first time gifts.
It is vital to somehow teach new people about security even if they start with convenient little apps.