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Title: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 05, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 05, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
So far more than 15,000 people have died in the conflicts involving Boko Haram. Millions of people have been displaced from their homes and Christians have been ethnically cleansed from most of the areas in the North.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist_insurgency_in_Nigeria


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Lethn on June 05, 2014, 02:59:34 PM
They basically seem to me to be what chavs in the UK would be like if they had guns.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Este Nuno on June 05, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?

I thought that I heard on the news that the girls were rescued already. Did that not happen?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: RodeoX on June 05, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
From their perspective they rescued the girls from the sinful tyranny of education. That's hard to understand from here. To me it looks like a profitable slavery program.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 05, 2014, 03:38:48 PM
I thought that I heard on the news that the girls were rescued already. Did that not happen?

Unfortunately, that is not the case. Some 234 female students are sill under their custody.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Chibok_kidnapping

The extremists have said that they would treat them as slaves as part of the war booty. All of the girls have been forcibly converted to Islam.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Wilikon on June 05, 2014, 03:48:12 PM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?






Boko Haram is a cancer for its own population, but a great opportunity for Hollywood, "artists" and other opportunistic politicians...





Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 05, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
All we do is hold up signs.................................... /golf clap

China sent in troops before America..

My bloody country(Canada) should just send in 10k men and deal with this r tard.

Ya a few of the girls may die.. or we can leave them to be raped until they die.................. 


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: ShibaWow on June 05, 2014, 08:25:31 PM
All we do is hold up signs.................................... /golf clap

China sent in troops before America..

My bloody country(Canada) should just send in 10k men and deal with this r tard.

Ya a few of the girls may die.. or we can leave them to be raped until they die.................. 

silly boy, Canada doesn't war


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2014, 07:20:17 AM
If the Nigerian president can't exercise his control over more than one-thirds of the territory, then why he is remaining in the office? Why can't he be replaced with someone who is a bit more competent?

http://media2.policymic.com/7f6c8e62f886deb0f6811337faa0ac30.jpg


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 06, 2014, 01:08:10 PM
All we do is hold up signs.................................... /golf clap

China sent in troops before America..

My bloody country(Canada) should just send in 10k men and deal with this r tard.

Ya a few of the girls may die.. or we can leave them to be raped until they die.................. 

silly boy, Canada doesn't war

Oh I'm sorry who were the ones that taught everyone else to survive mustard gas?
Origional storm trooper?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 06, 2014, 01:08:48 PM
If the Nigerian president can't exercise his control over more than one-thirds of the territory, then why he is remaining in the office? Why can't he be replaced with someone who is a bit more competent?

http://media2.policymic.com/7f6c8e62f886deb0f6811337faa0ac30.jpg

His opponets are funded by richer people than his entire country...  Wat do?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2014, 01:31:00 PM
His opponets are funded by richer people than his entire country...  Wat do?

Don't tell me that he doesn't have any money. Nigeria exports 800 million barrels of crude oil every year, which is worth some $84 billion. He still doesn't have enough money to fight the insurgents?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: KimNam on June 06, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
why no united nation peace army sent there?
i don't follow this affair, anyone can told me what is the motive from boko haram?

His opponets are funded by richer people than his entire country...  Wat do?

Don't tell me that he doesn't have any money. Nigeria exports 800 million barrels of crude oil every year, which is worth some $84 billion. He still doesn't have enough money to fight the insurgents?
agree, nigeria is rich country from oil


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2014, 01:45:48 PM
why no united nation peace army sent there?
i don't follow this affair, anyone can told me what is the motive from boko haram?

The UN peacekeepers must be sent immediately to Northern Nigeria. The Nigerian president (Goodluck Jonathan) is opposing this move, as he fears that it will publicize his incompetence.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: ShibaWow on June 06, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
All we do is hold up signs.................................... /golf clap

China sent in troops before America..

My bloody country(Canada) should just send in 10k men and deal with this r tard.

Ya a few of the girls may die.. or we can leave them to be raped until they die..................  

silly boy, Canada doesn't war

Oh I'm sorry who were the ones that taught everyone else to survive mustard gas?
Origional storm trooper?

you invent
you don't war :P

btw it was a joke..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Marlo Stanfield on June 06, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Is Boko Haram a mobile group? How do they feed such a large amount of people? Or do they have a home base? And if they do have a home base, why hasn't it been raided yet?


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 06, 2014, 02:34:48 PM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?

I thought that I heard on the news that the girls were rescued already. Did that not happen?
No, the girls weren't released,a few managed to escaped but 200 girls are still under their custody !


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 06, 2014, 02:37:34 PM
why no united nation peace army sent there?
i don't follow this affair, anyone can told me what is the motive from boko haram?

The UN peacekeepers must be sent immediately to Northern Nigeria. The Nigerian president (Goodluck Jonathan) is opposing this move, as he fears that it will publicize his incompetence.

IMO F him.. what is he going to do, Invade a 1st world country? LMAO.  Save the people F the crocked politician scum.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 06, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
Is Boko Haram a mobile group? How do they feed such a large amount of people? Or do they have a home base? And if they do have a home base, why hasn't it been raided yet?
Boko Haram is an Islamic sect that believes politics in northern Nigeria has been seized by a group of corrupt, false Muslims. It wants to wage a war against them, and the Federal Republic of Nigeria generally, to create a “pure” Islamic state ruled by sharia law.
source : http://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/SR308.pdf


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: niothor on June 06, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
why no united nation peace army sent there?
i don't follow this affair, anyone can told me what is the motive from boko haram?

The UN peacekeepers must be sent immediately to Northern Nigeria. The Nigerian president (Goodluck Jonathan) is opposing this move, as he fears that it will publicize his incompetence.

Why?  Is there a request ? NO!.
So if the people don't want it why send there troops?

Funny how now you ask for the world police to intervene after criticizing them in thousands of posts.



Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2014, 03:15:41 PM
Funny how now you ask for the world police to intervene after criticizing them in thousands of posts.

That depends on who is the world police. If the United States want to act as the world police, then I'll oppose that, since most of the times, they have other intentions. The UN, on the other hand is a neutral organization, without any economic interests.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: KimNam on June 06, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
why no united nation peace army sent there?
i don't follow this affair, anyone can told me what is the motive from boko haram?

The UN peacekeepers must be sent immediately to Northern Nigeria. The Nigerian president (Goodluck Jonathan) is opposing this move, as he fears that it will publicize his incompetence.
it must! nigerian army seem not capable to protect their country
wtf with president who only cares about politics, it's about humanity


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2014, 04:44:57 PM
it must! nigerian army seem not capable to protect their country
wtf with president who only cares about politics, it's about humanity

The Nigerian army is very capable, but their commanders seems to be lacking the will to crush the Boko Haram. And the president receives almost no support from the Muslim-dominated North and North-East (he is a Christian from the South), and is therefore not much interested in restoring the law and order in that part of Nigeria.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: umair127 on June 09, 2014, 09:40:34 AM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?
Did you know that before the 250 girls were kidnapped, about 25 young boys were killed by having their throats slit? That is how dangerous this militant group is. The Nigerian govt has not been as proactive as the world expected them to.
However, Boko Haram is a radical Islamic group and as such, the religion itself cannot be blamed.
By the way, before a country rushes to the aid of another country, they first ask themselves how will it serve them? It is sad but true. Countries don’t just simply help other countries out of the goodness of their hearts. They often have vested interests in that country for example oil, investments etc..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 09, 2014, 09:45:55 AM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?
Did you know that before the 250 girls were kidnapped, about 25 young boys were killed by having their throats slit? That is how dangerous this militant group is. The Nigerian govt has not been as proactive as the world expected them to.
However, Boko Haram is a radical Islamic group and as such, the religion itself cannot be blamed.
By the way, before a country rushes to the aid of another country, they first ask themselves how will it serve them? It is sad but true. Countries don’t just simply help other countries out of the goodness of their hearts. They often have vested interests in that country for example oil, investments etc..
Yes you are right.. None of the countries step up to help without any self interests.. Moreover, when the concerned country is one like Nigeria, plagued by black, people just tend to ignore and move on.. Hypoctite modern people of this world!!


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 09, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
If the Nigerian president can't exercise his control over more than one-thirds of the territory, then why he is remaining in the office? Why can't he be replaced with someone who is a bit more competent?

http://media2.policymic.com/7f6c8e62f886deb0f6811337faa0ac30.jpg
I think the main problem about those countries are the blatant corruption in their government and the lack of military leadership. How did groups like boko haram get their weapons in the first place if someone in the military is not selling to them?
Their government need to pull a tighter rein on their army and use their military power to purge these extremist militant forces at full force!


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 09, 2014, 10:19:58 AM
Over a month ago, about 250 girls were kidnapped from a Nigerian school and taken to a remote area, all in the name of Islam. Their stance is that western education should not be allowed. Since then videos have been released and one showing the killing of a woman.

What are thoughts on Boko Haram?
Did you know that before the 250 girls were kidnapped, about 25 young boys were killed by having their throats slit? That is how dangerous this militant group is. The Nigerian govt has not been as proactive as the world expected them to.
However, Boko Haram is a radical Islamic group and as such, the religion itself cannot be blamed.
By the way, before a country rushes to the aid of another country, they first ask themselves how will it serve them? It is sad but true. Countries don’t just simply help other countries out of the goodness of their hearts. They often have vested interests in that country for example oil, investments etc..
Yes you are right.. None of the countries step up to help without any self interests.. Moreover, when the concerned country is one like Nigeria, plagued by black, people just tend to ignore and move on.. Hypoctite modern people of this world!!
Actually, I read an article once about how the Nigerians saying that interference from western powers will only make the situation worst.
The parents of the captured students even begged Americans to stop spreading the hashtag #freeourgirls or pressure the us government into interfering in this delicate situation because it only harms the hostages.
This is because if the terrorist group believes that the Americans are going to invade and attack them, they will get rid of the hostages by killing them or sell them off to destroy evidence and eye witnesses. After that, they can easily go back into society and pretend to be normal Nigerians.
Plus you are also giving terrorists groups like Boko Haram a FREE and very effective platform to spread their message to the whole world which is exactly what they want. This will only encourage other terrorist groups to commit more terrorism to get in the spotlight.
And let's face it. Terrorist groups like Boko Haram doesn't give a shit about the bad things a bunch of Americans are saying about them on Twitter. In fact, the more you hate them, the more they love it. Because they already hate you.
https://news.vice.com/article/bringbacko...boko-haram


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
Yes you are right.. None of the countries step up to help without any self interests.. Moreover, when the concerned country is one like Nigeria, plagued by black, people just tend to ignore and move on.. Hypoctite modern people of this world!!

Check your facts. Both the United Nations and the African Union has offered help in the past, but those offers were rejected by the Nigerian President (Goodluck Jonathan). He is more concerned about his reputation, rather than the safety of the Northern Nigerians.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: zolace on June 09, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
Boko Haram must be crushed !! It is pathetic to see all this.. I guess all the leading countries - US, China, Russia, UK, France, etc hold the ability to rescue the innocent girls, but they are all quiet.. They are all staying away from Islamic mess.. Someone in their country only has to step up .. Then others are sure to support..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2014, 12:18:27 PM
Boko Haram must be crushed !! It is pathetic to see all this.. I guess all the leading countries - US, China, Russia, UK, France, etc hold the ability to rescue the innocent girls, but they are all quiet.. They are all staying away from Islamic mess.. Someone in their country only has to step up .. Then others are sure to support..
'

And at the same time they are committing more and more atrocities.  >:(

Nigeria violence: Boko Haram blamed for new massacre

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27756400


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Rigon on June 09, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
With this theme I come in touch every day , I know a some Muslim people and they are talking to me that young boy's and girls in age 16-25 are brainwashed and taken to Siria or other countries who are in war there . Big problem are social medias who spread their ideas and recruit new soldiers . They are showing them videos and pictures of killed children and much more . And I know that only true thing in Jihad is to die if you die on Jihad u go to heaven ...


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Rigon on June 09, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
I thought that I heard on the news that the girls were rescued already. Did that not happen?

Unfortunately, that is not the case. Some 234 female students are sill under their custody.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Chibok_kidnapping

The extremists have said that they would treat them as slaves as part of the war booty. All of the girls have been forcibly converted to Islam.
C'mon.. Remember how US reacted when oil interests were involved... how it deployed drones .. But when non-citizen rights are the question, America just stays quiet...


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
C'mon.. Remember how US reacted when oil interests were involved... how it deployed drones .. But when non-citizen rights are the question, America just stays quiet...

May be. Most of the oil wells in Nigeria are located offshore and in the Niger Delta. The Boko Haram is not active in these regions. So the US does not have any incentive to intervene in the fight against Boko Haram.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 09, 2014, 12:49:40 PM
Boko Haram must be crushed !! It is pathetic to see all this.. I guess all the leading countries - US, China, Russia, UK, France, etc hold the ability to rescue the innocent girls, but they are all quiet.. They are all staying away from Islamic mess.. Someone in their country only has to step up .. Then others are sure to support..
What do you think is the aim of those higher ups in the terrorist cells tearing kids apart from their families, making them fight in terrorist groups and misleading them by twisting the words of the Holy Quran?
Do they also seriously believe in their own grand delusions or are they just using the kids for their own advantages? Because for the life of me I can't figure out any advantages they might gain from organizing those terrorist groups. It's not like they're making a lot of money or are getting high positions and power in the government.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: zolace on June 09, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
With this theme I come in touch every day , I know a some Muslim people and they are talking to me that young boy's and girls in age 16-25 are brainwashed and taken to Siria or other countries who are in war there . Big problem are social medias who spread their ideas and recruit new soldiers . They are showing them videos and pictures of killed children and much more . And I know that only true thing in Jihad is to die if you die on Jihad u go to heaven ...
I know a lot about Islam and the thing they are doing with this beautiful religion is wrong . They take only facts from holly Kur'an that they like and that can use to recruit more people its true by Islam religion if you die while fighting for Islam you go to heaven . But if you atack and terror someone and cover that with Islam than only thing you can go to is hell .


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 09, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
I came across this article today:
"Nigeria's defense chief Alex Badeh says the military knows where the girls are but cannot use force to free them

The Nigerian military has located the schoolgirls who were abducted by Islamist extremists but cannot free them by force, the country’s defense chief said Monday.

Air Marshal Alex Badeh told demonstrators that the government intends to rescue the girls but needs to proceed carefully. “We can’t go and kill our girls in the name of trying to get them back,” he said, cautioning against the repercussions of acting too aggressively, too soon.

Badeh would not disclose the exact location where they believe the girls are being held."

"President Goodluck Jonathan was forced to accept international help in the search this month after several weeks of making no publicized effort to find the children. He even lied to families and the international community by saying most of the girls had been returned."

http://time.com/116772/kidnapped-nigerian-girl-located/

So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 09, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
We should contact Black water..

BITCOINERS SAVE THE GIRLS..

Wanna talk about good news for bitcoin..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Lethn on June 09, 2014, 01:58:14 PM
We should contact Black water..

BITCOINERS SAVE THE GIRLS..

Wanna talk about good news for bitcoin..

That's actually a tempting idea.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2014, 02:01:45 PM
So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!

I don't trust the Nigerian authorities any more. Unconfirmed reports suggests that most of the girls have been taken to the neighboring nation of Cameroon, after their formal conversion to Islam. Only the International troops can free them.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 12, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!

I don't trust the Nigerian authorities any more. Unconfirmed reports suggests that most of the girls have been taken to the neighboring nation of Cameroon, after their formal conversion to Islam. Only the International troops can free them.
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria.. The country was early known to be the most peaceful countries in the world, a place where people where used to regard each other as their own brother, and now blood is being split at every step..

I guess it is the Government of Nigeria which should take complete responsibility of the situation!!


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria..

Waiting for good news from Nigeria? I have some for you.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/06/nigeria-gunmen-burn-church-kill-villagers-20146111606283773.html

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-nigeria-women-abductions-20140609-story.html


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: umair127 on June 12, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Just read in the news..
Nigeria has accepted help from US, China, France and Britain.. Around 80 US troops have reached the country and started the mission to rescue the girls..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: zolace on June 12, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!

I don't trust the Nigerian authorities any more. Unconfirmed reports suggests that most of the girls have been taken to the neighboring nation of Cameroon, after their formal conversion to Islam. Only the International troops can free them.
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria.. The country was early known to be the most peaceful countries in the world, a place where people where used to regard each other as their own brother, and now blood is being split at every step..

I guess it is the Government of Nigeria which should take complete responsibility of the situation!!
They are promising them better life , lots of money , and they wash their brains so they think they are heroes who are saving that country Syria or any other country ... The main problem is that they really have strong conviction methods and internet and mass spread just helped them to spread even more . None knows for sure what are they promising to that new soldiers .. but I say only educated person is not going to fall on their fantasy's .


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 12, 2014, 04:08:04 PM
Just read in the news..
Nigeria has accepted help from US, China, France and Britain.. Around 80 US troops have reached the country and started the mission to rescue the girls..
It is a horrible idea to broadcast the fact that they have received aid from other countries to the whole world. These operations should have been conducted in secrecy. Think about it...if you can read the news, the rebels can too. This puts the terrorists under extra pressure and the hostages under much more danger.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 12, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!

I don't trust the Nigerian authorities any more. Unconfirmed reports suggests that most of the girls have been taken to the neighboring nation of Cameroon, after their formal conversion to Islam. Only the International troops can free them.
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria.. The country was early known to be the most peaceful countries in the world, a place where people where used to regard each other as their own brother, and now blood is being split at every step..

I guess it is the Government of Nigeria which should take complete responsibility of the situation!!
They are promising them better life , lots of money , and they wash their brains so they think they are heroes who are saving that country Syria or any other country ... The main problem is that they really have strong conviction methods and internet and mass spread just helped them to spread even more . None knows for sure what are they promising to that new soldiers .. but I say only educated person is not going to fall on their fantasy's .
I agree with what you said about the terrorist groups advertising their cause based on the value of valor and the lure of being a called a hero by their countrymen.

But do you know that highly educated people are much more likely to become terrorists rather than lower educated people?? This is because what the terrorists are fighting for are their ideals. Often, those ideals are highly developed and requires a complex minded individual to understand and agree with those ideals, moreover, highly educated people can easily see 'what is wrong' with the world and have a desire to change the world based on their ideology.

That is why many terrorists tend to be college or university aged young adults who are highly intelligent. Think about it, the terrorists during 9/11 even knew how to fly a plane! This takes years of intense training.

It is not stupidity that causes terrorism. But rather a fundamental trait of terrorism is intelligence. Just that their intelligence is guided in the wrong direction and clouded by grand delusions.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 12, 2014, 04:26:00 PM
Indeed! I remember reading this article once about how extremists tend to be engineers. (20%) lol

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/bruce-h...rists-4080

But what I think zolace was talking about is that it is unlikely that extremists in countries like Nigeria can be highly educated...especially the foot soldiers. I believe they are mainly kids who have been brainwashed by the terrorist cell leaders..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: umair127 on June 12, 2014, 04:28:56 PM
So this is good news? Or can their words still be trusted? Because as we all know, they just recently lied to the International community that 'most of the girls has been returned to their families' to avoid international criticism over their inaction and their lies were found out!

I don't trust the Nigerian authorities any more. Unconfirmed reports suggests that most of the girls have been taken to the neighboring nation of Cameroon, after their formal conversion to Islam. Only the International troops can free them.
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria.. The country was early known to be the most peaceful countries in the world, a place where people where used to regard each other as their own brother, and now blood is being split at every step..

I guess it is the Government of Nigeria which should take complete responsibility of the situation!!
They are promising them better life , lots of money , and they wash their brains so they think they are heroes who are saving that country Syria or any other country ... The main problem is that they really have strong conviction methods and internet and mass spread just helped them to spread even more . None knows for sure what are they promising to that new soldiers .. but I say only educated person is not going to fall on their fantasy's .
I agree with what you said about the terrorist groups advertising their cause based on the value of valor and the lure of being a called a hero by their countrymen.

But do you know that highly educated people are much more likely to become terrorists rather than lower educated people?? This is because what the terrorists are fighting for are their ideals. Often, those ideals are highly developed and requires a complex minded individual to understand and agree with those ideals, moreover, highly educated people can easily see 'what is wrong' with the world and have a desire to change the world based on their ideology.

That is why many terrorists tend to be college or university aged young adults who are highly intelligent. Think about it, the terrorists during 9/11 even knew how to fly a plane! This takes years of intense training.

It is not stupidity that causes terrorism. But rather a fundamental trait of terrorism is intelligence. Just that their intelligence is guided in the wrong direction and clouded by grand delusions.
You have a point... It is actually educated people who have mastered in some field or other who turn terrorists..
And I feel that they do such things when they fail to get an identity for themselves... Another possible reason is when their self esteem gets hurt..


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Rigon on June 12, 2014, 04:33:47 PM
You know i saw in news that Boko Haram terrorists, on 27, May 2014, killed 35 persons comprising 14 soldiers, 11 policemen and 10 civilians in separate attacks in Buni Yadi, Gujba Local Government Area of Yobe State and Chinene village in Gwoza Local Government Area of Borno State.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 12, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria..

Waiting for good news from Nigeria? I have some for you.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/06/nigeria-gunmen-burn-church-kill-villagers-20146111606283773.html

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-nigeria-women-abductions-20140609-story.html
Well, Boko Haram is on the news again today. This time they just WALKED into a village and took away 20 young mothers by herding them into vehicles and driving away. What the heck?!?! What is the police & military doing? It is their job to protect the people. You would think after the school girl kidnappings, they'd have beefed up security by now but this latest crisis is just plain pathetic on their part.

It seems like the local law enforcements are utterly powerless against Boko Haram.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27774239


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 12, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
Just read in the news..
Nigeria has accepted help from US, China, France and Britain.. Around 80 US troops have reached the country and started the mission to rescue the girls..

ooooh 80 troops...........................


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: spazzdla on June 12, 2014, 04:48:13 PM
I am eagerly waiting to hear a piece of good news from the country of Nigeria..

Waiting for good news from Nigeria? I have some for you.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2014/06/nigeria-gunmen-burn-church-kill-villagers-20146111606283773.html

http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-nigeria-women-abductions-20140609-story.html
Well, Boko Haram is on the news again today. This time they just WALKED into a village and took away 20 young mothers by herding them into vehicles and driving away. What the heck?!?! What is the police & military doing? It is their job to protect the people. You would think after the school girl kidnappings, they'd have beefed up security by now but this latest crisis is just plain pathetic on their part.

It seems like the local law enforcements are utterly powerless against Boko Haram.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27774239

Perhaps it is actually the peoples responsibilty to protect themselves we have just Fucked it up so bad with our policing idea..  Gonna be really hard to kidnap someone with a gun.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Lethn on June 12, 2014, 05:23:14 PM
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Perhaps it is actually the peoples responsibilty to protect themselves we have just Fucked it up so bad with our policing idea..  Gonna be really hard to kidnap someone with a gun.

No don't do that! The gun owner might hurt themselves! You should call the police inste- oh wait....


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 12, 2014, 05:33:24 PM
Just read in the news..
Nigeria has accepted help from US, China, France and Britain.. Around 80 US troops have reached the country and started the mission to rescue the girls..

Temporary solution instead of a permanent one. Or we can say that they are treating the symptoms instead of the disease.

Those troops are only there to rescue the schoolgirls. What we need is an international contingent, to wipe out the Boko Haram.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: niothor on June 12, 2014, 09:05:45 PM
Just read in the news..
Nigeria has accepted help from US, China, France and Britain.. Around 80 US troops have reached the country and started the mission to rescue the girls..

ooooh 80 troops...........................

Those are us only ground troops.Wait till they send in the drones :).

I remember one stupid claim by the idiots in Mali:

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A commander of the Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa, one of the extremist groups controlling northern Mali, taunted the French.

He said that his fighters control Diabaly, as well as Konna, the first town bombed by the French last week. He told AP news agency: "I would advise France not to sing their victory song too quickly. They managed to leave Afghanistan. They will never leave Mali."

In 10 days of operation Serval they were running like chickens , without their heads.





Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Benjig on June 12, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
Boko haram is not stopping, he is making one followed by another crime.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/boko-haram-suspected-as-20-women-abducted-in-nigerias-northeast/article19075036/


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: joshraban76 on June 12, 2014, 11:47:49 PM
As you said it, all in the name of Islam, and as a Muslim, I'm against this.

Because our region, is totally against this, they are the odd of us, and not be considered Muslims.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 13, 2014, 03:36:16 AM
There can be one unintended consequence of foreign military intervention in Nigeria. Right now, the Boko Haram is composed only of local fighters, armed with light weapons. If the Americans or the French send their troops to Nigeria, then it will give an excuse for the foreign mercenaries (Arabs, Afghans, Uzbeks, Chechens, Pakis.etc) to travel to Nigeria.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: niothor on June 16, 2014, 07:02:40 AM


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27862510

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At least 48 people have died after suspected Islamist militants attacked hotels and a police station in a Kenyan coastal town, officials say.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 16, 2014, 07:12:46 AM
^^^ probably the work of Al Shabab (the Somali Islamist Group). The region around Lamu is inhabited by ethnic Somalis as well. Boko Haram is not active outside Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Chad.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: niothor on June 16, 2014, 07:17:18 AM
^^^ probably the work of Al Shabab (the Somali Islamist Group). The region around Lamu is inhabited by ethnic Somalis as well. Boko Haram is not active outside Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Chad.


Indeed it seems like that.
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Al-Shabab militants are suspected of having carried out the attack

But still the attack happened in Nigeria and those guys will be target as well if finally the western forces decide to intervene.

And we have the cause of the attack as well:

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He said Mpeketoni was a mainly Christian community.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 16, 2014, 12:36:09 PM
Boko Haram is, without question, a danger to all people who do not accept the false interpretations of the written works of the prophet Kutam. It is however, just one small part of a orthodox movement within a religion which has the objective of dominating the world. Most Muslims would like to see this ambition achieved through peaceful means. However, there are many, who despite a good education, hold violence for a justified means to an end.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 16, 2014, 12:41:53 PM
Some of the high tanking officials within the Nigerian Army, belonging to the Hausa and Fulani ethnic groups are suspected of aiding the Boko Haram, by leaking the army attack plans. The other ethnic groups such as the Igbo and the Ijaw are unhappy about this.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Rigon on June 16, 2014, 02:57:44 PM
Is Boko Haram a mobile group? How do they feed such a large amount of people? Or do they have a home base? And if they do have a home base, why hasn't it been raided yet?
Just introducing about Boko Haram, Boko Haram promotes a version of Islam which makes it "haram", or forbidden, for Muslims to take part in any political or social activity associated with Western society. This includes voting in elections, wearing shirts and trousers or receiving a secular education. Boko Haram regards the Nigerian state as being run by non-believers, even when the country had a Muslim president.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 17, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
And we have the cause of the attack as well:

According to the Daily Mail, they are selectively executing Christians there:

'My husband told them we were Christians and they shot him in the head': How al-Shabaab militia went from door to door killing non-Muslims as Kenyan village watched World Cup

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2658751/Red-Cross-34-die-militant-attack-Kenya-town.html


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: umair127 on June 18, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
Is Boko Haram a mobile group? How do they feed such a large amount of people? Or do they have a home base? And if they do have a home base, why hasn't it been raided yet?
Just introducing about Boko Haram, Boko Haram promotes a version of Islam which makes it "haram", or forbidden, for Muslims to take part in any political or social activity associated with Western society. This includes voting in elections, wearing shirts and trousers or receiving a secular education. Boko Haram regards the Nigerian state as being run by non-believers, even when the country had a Muslim president.
I also want to say little about history of Boko haram. The Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad known by its Hausa name Boko Haram, is a terrorist organization based in northeastern Nigeria. The group is known for attacking churches, schools, and police stations. The group also kidnaps western tourists and has assassinated members of the Islamic establishment who have criticized the group. Violence linked to the Boko Haram insurgency has resulted in an estimated 10,000 deaths between 2002 and 2013.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 18, 2014, 04:06:28 PM
This is latest news that "A new briefing paper by IDMC highlights violence and abuses perpetrated by Nigeria’s most notorious Islamist insurgent group, Boko Haram, and the scale of internal displacement provoked by its campaign of terror. According to government authorities,* a total of 3.3 million people have been internally displaced in the country due to violence, including by that caused by Boko Haram."


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 18, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
This is latest news that "A new briefing paper by IDMC highlights violence and abuses perpetrated by Nigeria’s most notorious Islamist insurgent group, Boko Haram, and the scale of internal displacement provoked by its campaign of terror. According to government authorities,* a total of 3.3 million people have been internally displaced in the country due to violence, including by that caused by Boko Haram."
Boko Haram blamed for Nigeria village attacks; 15 killed, chief kidnapped. They burned a local traders market, several homes and a church, said residents who survived the Sunday attack on the remote Christian village of Daku in the district of Askira Uba. "The gunmen looted food items and money left by traders while fleeing the attack," eyewitness and resident Andrew Musa said of Sunday's violence. "They pursued people who attempted to flee into nearby bushes and shot them. We recovered 15 bodies from the bushes after the attack, including that of the village chief,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjW6U-ni4B0


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: sana8410 on June 18, 2014, 04:23:38 PM
It 's sad what is happening in the Northern part of Nigeria and also what we have seen in Kenya and Iraq . People of the same nationality killing each other. Sad all around.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: umair127 on June 18, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
This is latest news that "A new briefing paper by IDMC highlights violence and abuses perpetrated by Nigeria’s most notorious Islamist insurgent group, Boko Haram, and the scale of internal displacement provoked by its campaign of terror. According to government authorities,* a total of 3.3 million people have been internally displaced in the country due to violence, including by that caused by Boko Haram."
Boko Haram blamed for Nigeria village attacks; 15 killed, chief kidnapped. They burned a local traders market, several homes and a church, said residents who survived the Sunday attack on the remote Christian village of Daku in the district of Askira Uba. "The gunmen looted food items and money left by traders while fleeing the attack," eyewitness and resident Andrew Musa said of Sunday's violence. "They pursued people who attempted to flee into nearby bushes and shot them. We recovered 15 bodies from the bushes after the attack, including that of the village chief,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjW6U-ni4B0
These are mercenaries hired to destabilize Nigeria, every Dumbo knows that to kidnap girls and loot and kill is the best way to loose any support or moral grounds ........ these are trying to malign and defame Islam from the word go .......................... NOW who will benefit from maligning the Islam ......... enemies of Islam of course ........................ trace their weapons and let no one be under impression that they have fooled the world ...........


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: niothor on June 18, 2014, 04:48:18 PM
This is latest news that "A new briefing paper by IDMC highlights violence and abuses perpetrated by Nigeria’s most notorious Islamist insurgent group, Boko Haram, and the scale of internal displacement provoked by its campaign of terror. According to government authorities,* a total of 3.3 million people have been internally displaced in the country due to violence, including by that caused by Boko Haram."
Boko Haram blamed for Nigeria village attacks; 15 killed, chief kidnapped. They burned a local traders market, several homes and a church, said residents who survived the Sunday attack on the remote Christian village of Daku in the district of Askira Uba. "The gunmen looted food items and money left by traders while fleeing the attack," eyewitness and resident Andrew Musa said of Sunday's violence. "They pursued people who attempted to flee into nearby bushes and shot them. We recovered 15 bodies from the bushes after the attack, including that of the village chief,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjW6U-ni4B0
These are mercenaries hired to destabilize Nigeria, every Dumbo knows that to kidnap girls and loot and kill is the best way to loose any support or moral grounds ........ these are trying to malign and defame Islam from the word go .......................... NOW who will benefit from maligning the Islam ......... enemies of Islam of course ........................ trace their weapons and let no one be under impression that they have fooled the world ...........

I dare you to wear a cross around your neck and enter Mecca.



Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: Rigon on June 18, 2014, 04:54:08 PM
All villages in the area should be given something valuable with a GPS device in it. When members of Boco Haram steal it they will easy for the drones to find.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: noviapriani on June 18, 2014, 04:57:50 PM
All villages in the area should be given something valuable with a GPS device in it. When members of Boco Haram steal it they will easy for the drones to find.
Yeah, I have said something similar too, although try should have implanted a tracker chip into the gitmo detainees especially the numb nut who’s leading isis right now. Would have easily located them and evaporated them from existence.


Title: Re: Boko Haram and their reign of terror
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2014, 04:00:31 AM
All villages in the area should be given something valuable with a GPS device in it. When members of Boco Haram steal it they will easy for the drones to find.

The Boko Haram doesn't steal anything other than girls and women. How you'll attach GPS devices to them? BTW.... the Nigerian army clearly knows where are the Boko Haram hide-outs located. But they don't have the balls to attack them on their strongholds.