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Title: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: tgdollaz on April 27, 2011, 05:47:53 PM I'm a frequent visitor to overclock.net and just noticed that a huge bitcoin thread showed up. Most of the members on that forums are pc enthusiasts so I have feeling we'll see a lot more people starting to mine bitcoins. Great seeing more people being introduced to bitcoins, but I can foresee huge difficulty jumps if the gamer crows decides to start using their rigs for mining. Thoughts?
http://www.overclock.net/other-software/1001123-earn-your-gpu-bitcoin-mining-guide.html Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Cusipzzz on April 27, 2011, 05:54:04 PM These are my favorite quotes from that thread:
Quote There's really no incentive considering they are likely just going to jack all of your data and/or add your PC to a botnet. Any client you have to run with a BAT is obviously not refined to any sort of acceptable programming standard. Quote Seriously if anybody thinks they can make money buy basically doing GPU computations for a company or whatever, your absurd. This has scam, and sucker written all over it. When I see proof of actual people making money Ill eat my words. Doubt it though. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: tgdollaz on April 27, 2011, 05:56:57 PM This is my favorite quote from that thread: Quote There's really no incentive considering they are likely just going to jack all of your data and/or add your PC to a botnet. Any client you have to run with a BAT is obviously not refined to any sort of acceptable programming standard. LOL guess some discussion is better than none, even if it's not the most enlightened. ;) Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: proudhon on April 27, 2011, 05:58:46 PM This is my favorite quote from that thread: Quote There's really no incentive considering they are likely just going to jack all of your data and/or add your PC to a botnet. Any client you have to run with a BAT is obviously not refined to any sort of acceptable programming standard. Gamers can't be bothered with a command line. When somebody develops an action/adventure 3D MMORPG where your kills count toward mining, then maybe they'll join in. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 27, 2011, 05:58:59 PM http://www.overclock.net/other-software/1001123-earn-your-gpu-bitcoin-mining-guide-6.html#post13288029
He had to read it for a class? Interesting... Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: tgdollaz on April 27, 2011, 06:01:43 PM I did notice something interesting, the OP used deepbit in his tutorial "Currently there is 1 pool that is allowing open registration. That would be www.deepbit.net The work from this specific pool is divided into shares. There are 2 ways of receiving payment for the work you do." Yesterday the entire deepbit network was mining at 160 G/hs, after this hit OCN deepbit is up to 200 G/hs. 25% percent increase in less than 24 hours is not bad by any means.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 27, 2011, 06:08:45 PM Can you point them to some links tgdollaz? Nobody seems to get anything about bitcoin really, such a shame.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: proudhon on April 27, 2011, 06:09:03 PM The last post, as of my reading, is my favorite. The very last bit is the best:
Quote While my GTX 570 sleeps at night, you guys are making barely 3$. 3$ minus electricity minus bandwith. Now is it worth using your GPU for hours in rows just to get 3$ ? What about hardware degradation ? Even more that you don't even know what they are actually doing on your GPU. If they have access to your GPU and your internet, what tells you that they aren't playing in your computer ? Tell yourself something, why would you pay someone to MINE on their computer ? I would pay someone to get punched because I would enjoy the scene. But in this case there is something wrong for sure. Even if it works and it is not an hacker fetching your data, at a mere 3$ per day, which is 24 hours, how long do you think your graphic card can go ? Enjoy your free cofee and muffin at Mc donald's everyday. I wouldn't be skeptical if you only needed a program, but after reading the steps, there is something wrong. I'm not against this, there are just some weird questions going on here. And again, 3$ a day ... 90$ a month ... Does it worth it ? http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1595/panningforgold.gif Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: eleuthria on April 27, 2011, 06:09:52 PM I did notice something interesting, the OP used deepbit in his tutorial "Currently there is 1 pool that is allowing open registration. That would be www.deepbit.net The work from this specific pool is divided into shares. There are 2 ways of receiving payment for the work you do." Yesterday the entire deepbit network was mining at 160 G/hs, after this hit OCN deepbit is up to 200 G/hs. 25% percent increase in less than 24 hours is not bad by any means. Actually, deepbit had hit 200 ghash a few days prior (unless I was imagining things), but has seen some fairly large fluctuations up/down. Right now it's back down to 188. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Cusipzzz on April 27, 2011, 06:14:26 PM Ok, I have to add to my favorite quotes from that thread...they get better and better if you keep reading..You can see this guy made some kind of effort, but...
Quote I read the wiki and I understood pretty fast You sell you're computing power lottery style 1 block = 50 BTC. depending on market conditions 1 BTC ~ 0.8 - 1.9 $ The company that started this pay a FIXED SUM / HOUR ( they give 6 blocks per hour so 1 every 10 mins ... put another way they pay 300 - 600 $ per hour to the USERS "selling" their computer power) and then they offer this to companies who need it for various tasks on the open market ( hence the fluctuating price ) Its basically luck based because the fixed sum and the varying number of users giving up their computer power and how much power they give Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: mewantsbitcoins on April 27, 2011, 06:18:23 PM Ok, I have to add to my favorite quotes from that thread...they get better and better if you keep reading..You can see this guy made some kind of effort, but... Quote I read the wiki and I understood pretty fast You sell you're computing power lottery style 1 block = 50 BTC. depending on market conditions 1 BTC ~ 0.8 - 1.9 $ The company that started this pay a FIXED SUM / HOUR ( they give 6 blocks per hour so 1 every 10 mins ... put another way they pay 300 - 600 $ per hour to the USERS "selling" their computer power) and then they offer this to companies who need it for various tasks on the open market ( hence the fluctuating price ) Its basically luck based because the fixed sum and the varying number of users giving up their computer power and how much power they give :D this guy "understood it pretty fast" Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: proudhon on April 27, 2011, 06:22:54 PM Ok, I have to add to my favorite quotes from that thread...they get better and better if you keep reading..You can see this guy made some kind of effort, but... Quote I read the wiki and I understood pretty fast You sell you're computing power lottery style 1 block = 50 BTC. depending on market conditions 1 BTC ~ 0.8 - 1.9 $ The company that started this pay a FIXED SUM / HOUR ( they give 6 blocks per hour so 1 every 10 mins ... put another way they pay 300 - 600 $ per hour to the USERS "selling" their computer power) and then they offer this to companies who need it for various tasks on the open market ( hence the fluctuating price ) Its basically luck based because the fixed sum and the varying number of users giving up their computer power and how much power they give :D this guy "understood it pretty fast" Oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh, thaaaaat's how it works. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Raoul Duke on April 27, 2011, 06:30:48 PM Somebody should go there and shout to those morons that Bitcoin IS NOT a company... ::)
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Cusipzzz on April 27, 2011, 06:34:28 PM morons or not, this is going to push difficulty through the roof as some of them have managed to get their GPUs mining already, lol.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: eMansipater on April 27, 2011, 06:35:24 PM Don't anybody go post there unless you have good soft skills. People with misconceptions aren't really a problem--people with misconceptions who get argued with and thus solidify their misconceptions are. There's no harm to bitcoin if these people don't adopt for another couple years.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: jav on April 27, 2011, 06:36:38 PM Very entertaining thread indeed. :-) I love how the first 20 pages are basically 5 guys repeatedly saying: "What the hell? This can't be true!"
So many brilliant quotes to be found: Quote Run your GPU 24/7 and make money? How does that not sound like a scam? Its like someone made up the fake currency called bitcoins and people pay for made up currency? seriously....? Quote Can we PLEASE stop talking about the motives behind bitcoin. Whatever it is, WE DON'T KNOW. But, miners brace yourselfs, you also see a couple of posts like this: Quote I'm deffinitly going to to this in college. Poor Student + "free" power + bitcoin = win A lot of people seemed very concerned about what it is computing and whether it's cracking passwords or whatnot. This seems like a frequent worry that people have. Do we have a good FAQ entry about that? Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: error on April 27, 2011, 06:41:11 PM Gawd, I hope they don't start mining en masse. Difficulty is high enough as is. ;D
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 27, 2011, 06:44:03 PM I made a big post about bitcoin, should answer a lot of questions.
http://www.overclock.net/other-software/1001123-earn-your-gpu-bitcoin-mining-guide-35.html#post13294060 Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: trentzb on April 27, 2011, 06:51:40 PM Don't anybody go post there unless you have good soft skills. People with misconceptions aren't really a problem--people with misconceptions who get argued with and thus solidify their misconceptions are. There's no harm to bitcoin if these people don't adopt for another couple years. +1Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: AmpEater on April 27, 2011, 06:52:23 PM "A lot of people seemed very concerned about what it is computing and whether it's cracking passwords or whatnot. This seems like a frequent worry that people have. Do we have a good FAQ entry about that?"
Ditto. I commonly see speculation that bitcoin is being used to break into computers by cracking passwords, or makes you part of a botnet. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Cusipzzz on April 27, 2011, 06:59:19 PM We have a new contender for 'post of the thread'
Quote What I don't think the fanbois of this are comprehending is that this system allows the person that can credit bitcoins the ability to rape and pillage everyone else in the system. It's a new twist on the old pump and dump stock scheme. The guy at the top could be selling bitcoins like mad and making a killing. There's zero transparency in the system and that's dangerous. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 27, 2011, 07:00:40 PM The worst part is that that was only a few posts after my info post...
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: FreeMoney on April 27, 2011, 10:48:35 PM http://www.overclock.net/other-software/1001123-earn-your-gpu-bitcoin-mining-guide-6.html#post13288029 He had to read it for a class? Interesting... Must be Chinese. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 27, 2011, 11:06:22 PM Nah, he said economics.
And anyone that wants to help keep me in that forum to explain things to people, I'd appreciate donations :D Whole lotta herp and derp and lots of work to straighten out people from thinking bitcoin is a scam. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2011, 11:19:41 PM You think this is bad you should have seen the aussie thread about bitcoin on our largest tech and internet related site. For people who claim to like technology they are pretty much luddites when it comes to bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: rezin777 on April 27, 2011, 11:34:19 PM You think this is bad you should have seen the aussie thread about bitcoin on our largest tech and internet related site. For people who claim to like technology they are pretty much luddites when it comes to bitcoin. This is what I've experienced as well. I would think people see "revolution", instead they see "scam". I wonder what this says about society? Probably nothing. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: kiba on April 28, 2011, 12:13:45 AM This is what I've experienced as well. I would think people see "revolution", instead they see "scam". I wonder what this says about society? Probably nothing. Well, it would be weird if bitcoin don't have any critics or that people would figure out that this is the best thing since sliced bread. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Ricochet on April 28, 2011, 12:19:54 AM You think this is bad you should have seen the aussie thread about bitcoin on our largest tech and internet related site. For people who claim to like technology they are pretty much luddites when it comes to bitcoin. This is what I've experienced as well. I would think people see "revolution", instead they see "scam". I wonder what this says about society? Probably nothing. To be fair, at first glance Bitcoin *does* seem like a bit of a scam, especially if it's introduced in the "use CPU cycles to generate free money!" stance. It's only once you realize that its purpose is to be an alternate currency, not a pyramid-based get-rich-quick scheme, that you truly appreciate it for what it is. It only takes a tiny bit of reading to get to this point, but let's face it, the majority of the people involved here (gamers) don't exactly have the attention span to really care. And honestly, I'm okay with that. They're not ready for it, and so we shouldn't try to force it upon them. They'll come around eventually. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: FreeMoney on April 28, 2011, 12:22:02 AM And here's a bunch of people who don't get it, but seem to be optimistic and trusting by nature.
http://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28335 edit: maybe they get it, but they aren't focusing on it. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: marcus_of_augustus on April 28, 2011, 12:28:04 AM Bitcoin is too good to be true. But not in the way these gamers are assuming. Econmically speaking it is truly a godsend and quantum leap in monetary technology.
It is amazing to see how similar the reaction was in the poker thread and the whirlpool-techo thread. Eventually they'll come around like this; - first they'll make up their mind, open-source=good (i,e, not a scam) - second, they'll see other people are trading it=good (i'm not the only idiot on this planet, sheeple) - third, they'll see that it is going up in value=good (i'm really not an idiot but a genius because I can make money, sheeple2) In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: MoonShadow on April 28, 2011, 12:37:26 AM I wonder how the recent revelation that Gavin Anderson is doing a presentation on Bitcoin for the CIA would trip up these mental giants, but I'm not willing to join the fray to try it.
Honestly, I would have expected the membership on an overclocking forum to be a bit more tech savvy. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: rezin777 on April 28, 2011, 12:38:40 AM Of course, I don't expect people to quit their jobs and remortgage the family farm to invest in bitcoins, but have the decency to read about something before throwing around wild accusations. What am I thinking, the typical reaction is exactly what I should expect.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: rezin777 on April 28, 2011, 12:41:18 AM Honestly, I would have expected the membership on an overclocking forum to be a bit more tech savvy. This is what I thought as well, but apparently these overclocking forums are mostly a bunch of kids trying to get crysis to run smoothly. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: MoonShadow on April 28, 2011, 12:45:25 AM Honestly, I would have expected the membership on an overclocking forum to be a bit more tech savvy. This is what I thought as well, but apparently these overclocking forums are mostly a bunch of kids trying to get crysis to run smoothly. ;D Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: FreeMoney on April 28, 2011, 12:47:56 AM Bitcoin is too good to be true. But not in the way these gamers are assuming. Econmically speaking it is truly a godsend and quantum leap in monetary technology. It is amazing to see how similar the reaction was in the poker thread and the whirlpool-techo thread. Eventually they'll come around like this; - first they'll make up their mind, open-source=good (i,e, not a scam) - second, they'll see other people are trading it=good (i'm not the only idiot on this planet, sheeple) - third, they'll see that it is going up in value=good (i'm really not an idiot but a genius because I can make money, sheeple2) In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King. If only there was a way to get paid for figuring this out early... Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: AmpEater on April 28, 2011, 01:04:40 AM "Honestly, I would have expected the membership on an overclocking forum to be a bit more tech savvy."
You said it brother. I seriously didn't see a single google-search informed opinion the whole time. One damn google search Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: gigabytecoin on April 28, 2011, 06:21:10 AM Ho-lee-crap!
BTC generating difficulty is about to skyrocket. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: error on April 28, 2011, 10:50:27 PM Now up to 139 pages.
Though I see a lot of NVIDIA users dropping out. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: marcus_of_augustus on April 28, 2011, 11:54:19 PM Now up to 139 pages. Though I see a lot of NVIDIA users dropping out. Interesting, I wonder if bitcoin will force nvidia to put out a gpu that can do integer as well as ati/amd now? If punter comes to buy gpu card and says "how is it for gaming?" ... gets the yada-yada-yada from sales guy and then he says "and how is it for bitcoin mining?" ... nvidia blank-stare ??? Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on April 28, 2011, 11:59:53 PM Now up to 139 pages. Though I see a lot of NVIDIA users dropping out. Interesting, I wonder if bitcoin will force nvidia to put a gpu that can do integer as well as ati/amd now? If punter comes to buy gpu card and says "how is it for gaming?" ... gets the yada-yada-yada from sales guy and then he says "and how is it for bitcoin mining?" ... nvidia blank-stare ??? Even more interesting is the complete LACK of 5xxx series GPU's for sale on the forums currently, vs the dozens of NVIDIA 4xx and 5xx series GPU's for sale. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Litt on April 29, 2011, 04:00:58 AM I just don't understand spending the time and effort into convincing people on gaming hardware forum. There are better places for things like this than place like OCN.
Other than blindly trying out mining and adding hashing power with whatever GPU they have, I don't really see much good coming out from this target audience at this point in time. I am certainly generalizing here, but my main point being that the time and effort can very much be used for a better target audience. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on April 29, 2011, 04:11:40 AM Probably, but somehow they had already been introduced and someone had to run and put out the fires from the lack of an explanation. Too little information and a lot of confused people is a bad thing for any new tech, people will get prejudiced based on nothing ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: dbitcoin on April 29, 2011, 10:35:00 AM Topic on OCN - it's deepbit advertisement, what why you don't see "too complex for average joe" explanation about bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: stic.man on April 29, 2011, 10:55:22 AM And here's a bunch of people who don't get it, but seem to be optimistic and trusting by nature. http://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28335 edit: maybe they get it, but they aren't focusing on it. This is where I hang out, it's a music forum theoretically. Nobody there will be a nuisance haha. Our forum does show up near the top of a lot of google searches though so I apologize in advance if someone looks at that thread to get an idea of BTC Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: AtlasONo on April 29, 2011, 02:51:26 PM Quote Its like someone made up the fake currency called bitcoins and people pay for made up currency? seriously....? Yea that's pretty much it. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: dust on April 29, 2011, 03:08:45 PM Topic on OCN - it's deepbit advertisement, what why you don't see "too complex for average joe" explanation about bitcoin. People in the thread are justifying using pay-per-share at a 10% fee :-\Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: error on April 29, 2011, 05:08:33 PM "This thread has been closed pending an investigation from Upper management. Thank you."
It just gets better and better. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: TheShoura on April 29, 2011, 05:21:05 PM Moderator said:
Quote We are looking into BTC to see whether it is something we are comfortable with on OCN. They shut down the thread cus they want to read up on it or something lolOCN is filled with stupidity like this. I don't know how there are so many fuckin' idiots in one place. Glad I don't visit the site much Seriously though, OCN is a decent site for getting help with some stuff, but a good example was every time I asked for help, I got 2-3 helpful replies, and 30 other replies talking about stuff totally unrelated to my question. No joke. Also, the stupidest stuff goes viral on that site, so thats probably why management got all worried Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Prze_koles on April 29, 2011, 05:24:50 PM Yea. I've seen 2 other threads this week, one mentioned above. And ppl either don't give a f*ck what Bitcoin is or they can read the documentation. They're just investing on mtgox or buying mining rigs and they're happy with it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: JohnDoe on April 29, 2011, 07:11:19 PM And here's a bunch of people who don't get it, but seem to be optimistic and trusting by nature. http://forums.hipinion.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28335 edit: maybe they get it, but they aren't focusing on it. Very entertaining thread, I've procrastinated most of the day reading this thing. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: dbitcoin on April 30, 2011, 12:16:41 AM Moderator said: They do not delete very popular topic (with false deepbit advertisement), but very fast delete topic with complete list of pools. Quote We are looking into BTC to see whether it is something we are comfortable with on OCN. They shut down the thread cus they want to read up on it or something lolOCN is filled with stupidity like this. I don't know how there are so many fuckin' idiots in one place. Glad I don't visit the site much Seriously though, OCN is a decent site for getting help with some stuff, but a good example was every time I asked for help, I got 2-3 helpful replies, and 30 other replies talking about stuff totally unrelated to my question. No joke. Also, the stupidest stuff goes viral on that site, so thats probably why management got all worried Hypocrites, who wants $500 per one advertisement post. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on April 30, 2011, 12:36:37 AM Topic on OCN - it's deepbit advertisement, what why you don't see "too complex for average joe" explanation about bitcoin. People in the thread are justifying using pay-per-share at a 10% fee :-\Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: jaybny on May 02, 2011, 09:49:36 PM "This thread has been closed pending an investigation from Upper management. Thank you."
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: sortedmush on May 03, 2011, 09:52:19 PM "This thread has been closed pending an investigation from Upper management. Thank you." I just read that WTF? Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 03, 2011, 09:56:50 PM What OCN has "Upper management"? ... they are hardly big enough to have any management, what pompous, self-important know-nothings. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: abyssobenthonic on May 03, 2011, 10:56:57 PM You think this is bad you should have seen the aussie thread about bitcoin on our largest tech and internet related site. For people who claim to like technology they are pretty much luddites when it comes to bitcoin. This is what I've experienced as well. I would think people see "revolution", instead they see "scam". I wonder what this says about society? Probably nothing. To be fair, at first glance Bitcoin *does* seem like a bit of a scam, especially if it's introduced in the "use CPU cycles to generate free money!" stance. It's only once you realize that its purpose is to be an alternate currency, not a pyramid-based get-rich-quick scheme, that you truly appreciate it for what it is. It only takes a tiny bit of reading to get to this point, but let's face it, the majority of the people involved here (gamers) don't exactly have the attention span to really care. And honestly, I'm okay with that. They're not ready for it, and so we shouldn't try to force it upon them. I suspect that mentions of bitcoin in the economics (Jerry Brito's article, which is what got me into bitcoin, being perhaps the best example of this) and "black market" publications (e.g. this thread at MajorWager (http://www.majorwager.com/forums/mess-hall/208263-bitcoin.html)) are generally going to do much more for advocacy than mentions in tech publications (especially in those that have a large layperson based as opposed to, say, slashdot). Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: goatpig on May 03, 2011, 11:41:37 PM What do you guys expect? The average economics forum lurker sees Bitcoin as a scam at first glance. What is left for gamers, an audience that has no experience in economics nor the tech involved in Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Clavulanic on May 03, 2011, 11:43:13 PM What OCN has "Upper management"? ... they are hardly big enough to have any management, what pompous, self-important know-nothings. Longtime OCN member here. OCN has gone down the shitter the past couple of years. The new moderators are just god awful. They will give you infractions and close threads just for not agreeing with you or saying something simple like "stupid". It's beyond ridiculous. The management is killing the site basically. I found out about bitcoin from that thread though, so I'm glad someone put it up. There are a lot of idiots at OCN though, more beyond belief. But then there are some people really skillful with computers and some powerful systems. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 04, 2011, 12:25:29 AM What OCN has "Upper management"? ... they are hardly big enough to have any management, what pompous, self-important know-nothings. Longtime OCN member here. OCN has gone down the shitter the past couple of years. The new moderators are just god awful. They will give you infractions and close threads just for not agreeing with you or saying something simple like "stupid". It's beyond ridiculous. The management is killing the site basically. I found out about bitcoin from that thread though, so I'm glad someone put it up. There are a lot of idiots at OCN though, more beyond belief. But then there are some people really skillful with computers and some powerful systems. Maybe we should start a new OCN... Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Clavulanic on May 04, 2011, 12:30:52 AM What OCN has "Upper management"? ... they are hardly big enough to have any management, what pompous, self-important know-nothings. Longtime OCN member here. OCN has gone down the shitter the past couple of years. The new moderators are just god awful. They will give you infractions and close threads just for not agreeing with you or saying something simple like "stupid". It's beyond ridiculous. The management is killing the site basically. I found out about bitcoin from that thread though, so I'm glad someone put it up. There are a lot of idiots at OCN though, more beyond belief. But then there are some people really skillful with computers and some powerful systems. Maybe we should start a new OCN... Yup, I've seen you around a lot SgtSpike. I'm on a different name here though 8) Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 04, 2011, 01:59:07 AM Ninja-OCNer... probably for good reason. I wouldn't want to get on this crowd's bad side. They're all leagues smarter than I am. :P
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: jaybny on May 05, 2011, 04:56:01 AM every thread about bitcoin gets closed by management.. what a bunch of tools.
http://www.overclock.net/other-software/1007369-too-complex-average-joe.html Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: kiba on May 05, 2011, 06:35:44 AM every thread about bitcoin gets closed by management.. what a bunch of tools. An unimportant forum think bitcoin is a scam? Who fricking care? Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: levontraut on May 05, 2011, 02:58:17 PM hey guys... can you guys help me set it up pls??
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: error on May 05, 2011, 04:57:08 PM hey guys... can you guys help me set it up pls?? Ninja-OCNer... probably for good reason. I wouldn't want to get on this crowd's bad side. They're all leagues smarter than I am. :P Clearly not all of them. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 05, 2011, 05:01:46 PM hey guys... can you guys help me set it up pls?? Ninja-OCNer... probably for good reason. I wouldn't want to get on this crowd's bad side. They're all leagues smarter than I am. :P Clearly not all of them. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: laoshanlong on May 06, 2011, 05:40:04 PM Really all the overclocking forums are like this. If you see cheesy images or numerous lines of variously-sized and colored text in the signatures of the users, you can bet the community is clueless and absolute trash.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 06, 2011, 06:09:47 PM Really all the overclocking forums are like this. If you see cheesy images or numerous lines of variously-sized and colored text in the signatures of the users, you can bet the community is clueless and absolute trash. Hmmm... maybe I'd better change my sig...Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: TheShoura on May 06, 2011, 07:37:38 PM Really all the overclocking forums are like this. If you see cheesy images or numerous lines of variously-sized and colored text in the signatures of the users, you can bet the community is clueless and absolute trash. I can somewhat agree to this. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: abyssobenthonic on May 07, 2011, 12:31:38 AM Really all the overclocking forums are like this. If you see cheesy images or numerous lines of variously-sized and colored text in the signatures of the users, you can bet the community is clueless and absolute trash. I've never encountered a forum worth belonging to where users with large images in their sigs weren't a) banned, b) moderated, or c) subject to a campaign of ostracism and/or mocking. When checking out a forum that looks interesting, that is one of the things I look for. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Herodes on May 07, 2011, 05:07:05 AM Gamers gotta do what gamers gotta do. :) Thanks for the laugh guys. :D
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: NghtRppr on May 07, 2011, 05:38:16 AM What's to investigate? ???
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 07, 2011, 06:56:26 AM I will have you all note that the 26th, the day this thread was posted, was also the day of the start of the rally that brought us up above $3.00. Publicity FTW?
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on May 09, 2011, 07:30:32 PM Quote As an update. What a bunch of bullocks. Screw OCN. 6000+ posts and 4 years later, I'm leaving. Sick of the crap that they pull.Due to a recent decision from the management team on Overclock.net we now will no longer support the discussion of Bitcoin or any other elements of it. The Use of Bitcoin breaches our TOS as you can use Bitcoin to earn currency. It specifically states in the OCN TOS that you may not Directly or Indirectly profit from the use of OCN. As such we cannot support the Bitcoin project. We also feel that the Bitcoin project does not fit in with goals we strive for on OCN. We have nothing against the Bitcoin project, it simply does not fit the purpose and goals of Overclock.Net I can understand not advertising about your own websites to some extent. But not allowing discussion of Bitcoins because you can make money from it? Seriously? BTW, the PRIMARY motivation of OCN for doing this is to keep everyone on the site folding@home - it has nothing to do with the actual bitcoin discussion. OCN is one of the top ranked communities for folding, and I'm sure they don't want to see their ranking drop because a bunch of folders switched over to bitcoining. ::) Bye-bye OCN. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Anonymous on May 09, 2011, 11:19:53 PM OCN - the myspace of gaming forums. ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: dust on May 09, 2011, 11:37:16 PM Quote As an update. Due to a recent decision from the management team on Overclock.net we now will no longer support the discussion of computers or any other elements of them. The Use of computers breaches our TOS as you can use computers to earn currency. It specifically states in the OCN TOS that you may not Directly or Indirectly profit from the use of OCN. As such we cannot support computers. We also feel that computers do not fit in with goals we strive for on OCN. We have nothing against computers, they simply does not fit the purpose and goals of Overclock.Net Guess people can't ask for advice on building their video editing/CAD/software development boxes either then... Yeah... OCN is obviously fearing a hit to their folding e-peen. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: PwrLeveld on May 09, 2011, 11:39:41 PM I too came for the OCN article about this and to be honest over there they made a big mistake by not allowing bitcoins to remain on discusions there. It made me lose a lot of respect for the website but I will in fact still use it though, but no posting for me.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: Clavulanic on May 10, 2011, 03:02:28 AM I'm going to dig further into this matter... I once loved this community, but the oppressive mods have been shitting on it for quite some time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 10, 2011, 03:54:17 AM They just felt like they got small pee-pees because they found out bitcoin miners can run their machines harder than gamers .... ;D Get hard, get bitcoin mining .... get some monies. Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: silversurfer on May 10, 2011, 05:14:21 AM The last post, as of my reading, is my favorite. The very last bit is the best: Quote While my GTX 570 sleeps at night, you guys are making barely 3$. 3$ minus electricity minus bandwith. Now is it worth using your GPU for hours in rows just to get 3$ ? What about hardware degradation ? Even more that you don't even know what they are actually doing on your GPU. If they have access to your GPU and your internet, what tells you that they aren't playing in your computer ? Tell yourself something, why would you pay someone to MINE on their computer ? I would pay someone to get punched because I would enjoy the scene. But in this case there is something wrong for sure. Even if it works and it is not an hacker fetching your data, at a mere 3$ per day, which is 24 hours, how long do you think your graphic card can go ? Enjoy your free cofee and muffin at Mc donald's everyday. I wouldn't be skeptical if you only needed a program, but after reading the steps, there is something wrong. I'm not against this, there are just some weird questions going on here. And again, 3$ a day ... 90$ a month ... Does it worth it ? http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1595/panningforgold.gif +1 Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: rezin777 on May 10, 2011, 01:30:21 PM I'm going to dig further into this matter... I once loved this community, but the oppressive mods have been shitting on it for quite some time. Hey, could you spread the word that it's not a competition to be the biggest (like F@H) and everyone joining one pool is possibly detrimental to bitcoin network security. The brilliant minds from OCN apparently don't understand, or care to understand, the projects they contribute to. Thanks! Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: mr.n00blar on July 22, 2013, 10:03:19 PM Quote As an update. What a bunch of bullocks. Screw OCN. 6000+ posts and 4 years later, I'm leaving. Sick of the crap that they pull.Due to a recent decision from the management team on Overclock.net we now will no longer support the discussion of Bitcoin or any other elements of it. The Use of Bitcoin breaches our TOS as you can use Bitcoin to earn currency. It specifically states in the OCN TOS that you may not Directly or Indirectly profit from the use of OCN. As such we cannot support the Bitcoin project. We also feel that the Bitcoin project does not fit in with goals we strive for on OCN. We have nothing against the Bitcoin project, it simply does not fit the purpose and goals of Overclock.Net I can understand not advertising about your own websites to some extent. But not allowing discussion of Bitcoins because you can make money from it? Seriously? BTW, the PRIMARY motivation of OCN for doing this is to keep everyone on the site folding@home - it has nothing to do with the actual bitcoin discussion. OCN is one of the top ranked communities for folding, and I'm sure they don't want to see their ranking drop because a bunch of folders switched over to bitcoining. ::) Bye-bye OCN. I am unsure of who sent this to you, but discussion of the project was not banned after the distributed computing forum announcement was made (the second version). Title: Re: Bitcoin thread on OCN, 27 pages in 12 hours Post by: SgtSpike on July 22, 2013, 11:16:02 PM Quote As an update. What a bunch of bullocks. Screw OCN. 6000+ posts and 4 years later, I'm leaving. Sick of the crap that they pull.Due to a recent decision from the management team on Overclock.net we now will no longer support the discussion of Bitcoin or any other elements of it. The Use of Bitcoin breaches our TOS as you can use Bitcoin to earn currency. It specifically states in the OCN TOS that you may not Directly or Indirectly profit from the use of OCN. As such we cannot support the Bitcoin project. We also feel that the Bitcoin project does not fit in with goals we strive for on OCN. We have nothing against the Bitcoin project, it simply does not fit the purpose and goals of Overclock.Net I can understand not advertising about your own websites to some extent. But not allowing discussion of Bitcoins because you can make money from it? Seriously? BTW, the PRIMARY motivation of OCN for doing this is to keep everyone on the site folding@home - it has nothing to do with the actual bitcoin discussion. OCN is one of the top ranked communities for folding, and I'm sure they don't want to see their ranking drop because a bunch of folders switched over to bitcoining. ::) Bye-bye OCN. I am unsure of who sent this to you, but discussion of the project was not banned after the distributed computing forum announcement was made (the second version). |
