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70% of Wall St. investors believe Bitcoin is already trading at unsustainable prices (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-17/bitcoins-can-t-shake-bubble-image-in-poll-after-45-drop.html)

What is your advice?

of cause i am right, bitcoin is going to nowhere but down, lower and lower!
everybody tells you the price is going to pop up at 1/7 1/8 5/8 1/9.. use your brain to think why don't they buy now and sell at whenever they told you? why even more coins are dumped now?

they are making you a BIG fake dream of "get rich quick" so they can sell higher before you know it, just like a ponzi scheme

Wow.  Yeah this looks pretty bad imo.  Who was the person that predicted a multi year bear market to $40/coin ?

BTW- what do you guys think about this graph:

http://www.pgm-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/bubble-phases.jpg

we are at "return to normal", sell now or lose everything

You and your screename and your posts sure do sound like you want the price to hit $3 so you can get rich like the people from 2009.

wrong, no one gets rich, i won't buy if bitcoin is going to crash, the price can go always lower until no one wants bitcoin any more

Failling wouldn't be here if he didn't think bitcoin would be a success. He wants cheaper coins. That is why he is here. If he thought bitcoin was going to go to $50 or $0, he wouldn't waste time on this forum.

Obvious is obvious.

Capitulation is a good time to buy.

http://chartporn.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image-thumb2.png

only if there is a return bounce, is it?

Probably we are in the "hope" part of the graph, the price reached its bottom some months ago and now it's just a matter of weeks before the next rally.

Geez, I knew fallling was a troll but he seems to be getting more and more aggressive everyday

Falling king of the trolls.
Falling has no balls.
Go on take the jump.
Before the incoming pump.
Or wait for ever for that fall.
Into your $10 buy wall.

For fucks sake get a life.
Your not going to influence the price of BTC by posting fud to the 30 people in this forum who, with the exception of 2 probably dont own 1000 BTC between them.

Broken clock is right two times a day. Failing or whatever that clown is called is way worse than a broken clock.

OP you're an idiot for starting this thread. thats all it have to say.

OP's topic (like the article) is a marvellous example for outright FUD-spreading. A JPMorgan Exec and stone-age invenstor Buffet giving speculative opinions, some out-dated polls and surveys with investors who probably heard about Crypto Currency for the first time back then. Who gives a f***?

Seriously, anybody roughly informed about  BTC can keep doing coffee break.

*snip.

I told it before, just bann ore remove him from this forum. 84 troll fud post is just to much.

At least he's fun to read, just take him easy :)

what if OP is actually falling?

$57x :D
goodbye $580

$58x  :D
goodbye $570

If I had .01 for every time this chart was posted on this forum I would be rich.

My advice is it seems like wall street want cheaper coins to invest.  Same pattern we've seen over and over, just buy and hold come back in a year 10x richer.

I'm holding since months and I've only lost money but I believe in bitcoins and will hold long term.

This poll is bullish.  These polls often work as contrariant indicators.  If most people are bearish, then the price has a good chance of rising, presumably because the there are fewer bulls left to change their minds and sell and there are many bears who aren't invested and can change their mind and buy.

I could be wrong, but I doubt we will see 4xx or 3xx.

All assets eventually turn bubble and fall to a fairer price. Look at AAPL.

You don't get to change your prediction every day just because you fucked up last time faillling, everyone's still waiting for sub550, you're like three weeks late now, stop acting like a $5 drop to 578 is proof you're right. It's not.

Im waiting for new highs when the cold weather hits, maybe you guys will get lucky 1 more time to buy a tiny bit cheaper.

How does weather has anything to do with price?

When people start posting threads asking if well known bitcoin trolls are right, then you know we're at the bottom and the next rally is coming soon. Overall, sentiment can't get much lower than it is now.

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/BtcGrowthChart.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/BtcGrowthChart.jpg.html)

Please provide technical and fundamental evidence behind your claims.

OP's understanding of BTC= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUs7iG1mNjI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUs7iG1mNjI)

Wall Street is the place of manipulations and where sardines are eaten every day.

And even if for some miracle they are sincere and want to help sardines like we, I doubt they know enough about the bitcoin scene to make any valuable prediction about wether we are under or sub valorized.


And fallllling predicted a 550 fall in 24 hours more than 1 week ago, so he is wrong

If they know so much about bitcoin they would have bought some a while ago...

lol

he also called for 400 level like 2 months ago lol, he's absolutely crazy. he has a habit of making ridiculous unfounded claims. my favorite; that everyone who argues that he is wrong and that bitcoin is actually undervalued, is secretly dumping all their coins as fast as they can, and when people are like 'I'm going to buy some these are cheap prices' he claims they're actually lying to raise the price so they can dump their coins they secretly already have. also the only reason millions of venture capital is being poured into bitcoin is so they can all cooperatively "crash the market for a specific reason"(there is no reason..) ok so i have a few favorites, but its honestly almost funny at this point the way that a drugged out bum half falling asleep and falling over at a subway station would be funny. sad, truly, but kinda funny still in its horrible failure at existence.

Exactly.  Were they bullish when the price was $13?

Bitcoin has reached close to a fair valuation, it could still go down to $400-450 (around 30% odds of this happening), but there should be strong support at that level. So the downside is limited. As for the upside, in the near future (few months) it's limited too, don't expect bubbles from now on, their time is past.

There is a good chance the price can spike to $800 by Christmas and reach $1000-$1200 by next summer, which means a gradual rise of 7% each month. In traditional investments this is a very good return. If someone is looking to invest now, the safe strategy would be to invest 50% of your capital immediately, and then buy in steps all the way down to $400-450. I am pulling all this out of my ass, take with a grain of salt :)

I regretfully have to agree with this.

I wouldn't say he is a troll. Much of his analysis is right.

The only trolls are those who always tell you "moon-buy-hold...". When you are losing money, holding out hope is a bad strategy.

What makes you think we will go back up? People are losing interest more and more.
Less transactions every day. No new money coming in. Old coins being dumped gradually. New generation coins taking over.
There is no future really if you look at it realistically.
We have been crashing since beginning of this year, wake up, there is no bounce back.

if you hold when you're losing money, you're not losing money. if you listen to falling ever, he tells you to sell at a loss and he doesn't provide any analysis whatsoever. thats a bad strategy. where are you coming up with his analysis(which don't exist)being right?! clearly you're an idiot.

I've written, "much" of his analysis is right, and that's true, right now.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=336063;sa=showPosts

True idiots are those who 'think' they have it all figured...

agree with you guys, bear market still on

No, it is not true. Not now, not yesterday, not the day before, not tomorrow. Again, in order for "much" of his analysis to be true, he would have had to actually provide any analysis. He doesn't. He just makes a baseless claim, then when people ask why he thinks that he says they're "stupid lier bag holders", and that anyone who claims bitcoin is not crashing to zero is lying so they can secretly dump their stash of bitcoins at an intentional loss. If you put so much stock into what that retard says, start shorting! I mean the genius falling says its going to 300 really soon, you could double your money and it's a no brainer cuz he provided such clear fundamental analysis of how everyone in bitcoin is secretly lying about its undervaluation and also secretly dumping all their coins, just not on an exchange where you can see it happening of course. Right? Seems like easy money for someone as clever as you. And yet you're here, posting links to fallings prior posts, which proves only that he's never said anything accurate, and has never provided any analysis for his thoughts. Posting a picture of the "return to mean" chart, and claiming we're at the top of the bubble, is not analysis.

What's that you say?

https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular?timespan=180days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=7&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

Prove it.  Anecdotal isn't worth anything, but if it were I know for a fact that you're wrong.


What's that you say?

http://blockchain.info/charts/bitcoin-days-destroyed

Which, the vapourware Ethereum?  The slow death of Dogecoin?  Maybe NXT has some steam, but I don't know of anywhere I can actually spend those.


Try harder.


Crashing since beginning of this year?  You mean through the China BS and the fall of Mt. Gox?  I guess you haven't heard of all the VC funding entering the market.  Didn't we see sub $400 already this year?

^^^^^^THIS!!! Thank you dropt for being an intelligent reasonable human being.

+1 dropt. With the transparency of the blockchain we can all keep an eye on what's REALLY going on in bitcoin. Overall it's looking good, so calm your tits about the market price gyrations, it will only lead you to panic buy and sell at the worst possible times and fill someone else's pockets with your precious coins.

i think it will aroun 530 because market as i see chart . i predict in 530 and go higher 590 again.

STOP FOOLING PEOPLE to lose money in bitcoin buying, most responsible people can now see the downfall of bitcoin incoming!
You are dreaming of just sit there and get rich quick, well the real life / real market doesn't act that way




and many others

Once again falling, you prove our point. Calling us liars and quoting other people's nonsense is not market analysis.

And just what are you trying to do?  How about you back up your "predictions" with something.  If you can see I didn't even make a prediction, but I did back up my arguements with facts.  Where's yours?  Don't have any?  What a surprise  ::)


This is true, but I've been around long enough to know that doesn't mean shit.  If big players say it's time for the market to go up, it's going up.  Multi-thousand BTC buys in a matter of minutes have happened numerous times.  I'm not saying I believe this is or isn't going to happen, but I'm not so daft to have forgotten how this market has acted in the past.


Maybe, maybe not.  It's still a far cry from "$550 IN 48 HOURS, HURR DURR, POTATO" which is your M.O.


It's headed sideways with some doofus dumping piles of coins here and there to push it back.


And not one has actually provided any analysis or citations, just like you.  All bark, no bite.  How many more times are you going to fail before you abandon this account and start another?

I think there is not much prove needed. I think it is very obvious that there is only way for bitcoin at this price level and this is down.

1. News don´t drive the price anymore - Sign of market saturation.
2. Merchant adoption - Tax evasion scheme for early adopters, no one would buy a bitcoin to go shopping
3. Bitfinex Credit Bubble - more than 50.000 coins on loan
4. Orderbook - Very weak bid side. less than 19.000 coins to 0 (Bitstamp). I know people who own more than that
5. Expectation - Most people are bullish and a lot all in. Never a good sign

I have to agree with fallling. Stop being irresponsible for trying to drive people into Bitcoin.

If there's no foundation to your prediction, then it's useless.  It doesn't matter what direction you think it's going, if you can't provide a single reason for your train of thought, then you're just as bad as the people on the street corner yelling about the impending rapture.

At least you posted some points behind your thoughts, but go ahead and look at falllling's post history and show me examples of his reasoning.  


Where are we being irresponsible trying to drive people into Bitcoin?  This is the speculation forum of Bitcointalk, by all reasonable accounts if you're here posting you're already "in".  This forums is full of people talking their books, and Blitz has assured that anyone interested in actually discussing fundamentals and TA has been driven away by allowing useless members like falllling here to continue posting their baseless drivel insulting anyone who disagrees.

This thread is hilarious. Wannabe traders who like you have sold or are short a volatile commodity which has risen 10 fold every year for five years are agreeing with the analysis of an obvious bear troll.

And you call dropt irresponsible. Brilliant!

Words of advice to newbies: never trust anything you read on this forum!

They will just ignore all these facts and the whole year price dropping happening right in front of our eyes, cheap coins at $1100 $900 $800 $700 $600 ..

Time for those liars to give up, there is no moon, no get rich quick, no more bubble, what you lost is forever gone, buy more lose more

"Yalling to the moon plus suggest people to buy more" won't save bitcoin's price, don't scam people with the bitcoin ponzi scheme dream

My word of advice to newbies, never trust newbies....

I have made so much money from fear like this. Keep it up Falllling!  :-*

Actually, he may be right, he may not be. Thing is: There've been people like him all along in the bitcoin world. When bitcoin hit $1, people said it was overpriced beyond repair. Everyone knows where we are now. Only time will tell. I can only advise everyone worried by this to make up your mind and don't trade on panic or emotions. Don't listen to anyone on online boards. Make up your own mind!

The chances of the price falling is not likely but 'm no saying it is impossible just unlikely.  The big money hasn't even gotten in yet so I won't even bother saying more then that.  As for the Wall Street Investor saying Bitcoin is overvalued..  that is like taking marriage advice from a teenager.  Wall Street is a rigged but they question the of Bitcoin? Give me a break.

Good one.

Wall Street types are only good at one thing, that is selling over price security to the unsuspected investors.

Fallling, where is the technical analysis?

there are plenty of explications and reasons about why the price is going down in replies, no need to repeat just read them

I just want to thank falllling for making it seem as if things ain't that good in the bitcoin world. I remember a couple of months ago we had a serious problem in the forums --- there were absolutely no bears around. Everyone were anticipating for a rally. Now, at least there's a chance for bears to spawn and weak hands to lose their money. People MUST lose money because the pyramid structure of the global wealth distribution is a primal law of the cosmos that cannot be broken. The pyramid must remain. For the sake of biodiversity, we must have all kinds of losers: the ones who didn't buy in when it was cheap and the ones who sold everything at a wrong time. Falllling's propaganda effectively contributes to the latter.

you forgot to mention those losers who bought bitcoins at high but don't sell them in time to cut loose, there are always bag holder losers in the bubble market or ponzi scheme
hold until the last, lost more and more until nothing left

Yeah sure, there are all kinds of losers, thank you for completing my list but I'm sure you forgot to add a whole lot of other types in turn. I gave you n and (n+1), it's called mathematical induction. I see no point in explaining (n+2), (n+3) and so on :D

What's the matter with you? Or are you just a troll being a troll? Your sentences make no sense most of the time and you spread FUD with 0 evidence on anything you say.

"no one gets rich?" Tell that to the guys who bought in 2010-2011.

there are plenty of explications and reasons about why the price is going down in replies, no need to repeat just read them

explication is not a word  ::) and your 'explications and reasons' are not technical analysis either. no ones asking you to repeat the mindless drivel you've been spewing, they want you to STOP talking out of your ass and start using a brain(maybe someone else's? clearly you don't have your own) to make some actual educated conclusions based on actual events and facts. and no, making shit up and calling it a fact like you usually do does not count.

Fallling lost his money due of panic selling but realized later that Bitcoin is going to stay. I feel no sorry for him, in fact im very happy that he got pounded in the world of short trading.

No there aren't, those are speculations. Show me your numbers.

Which losers, the losers that bought at the first $32 ATH, or the ones that bought at the $260 ATH?  See, if the 'losers' as you put it sold due to idiots like you, then they absolutely lost money.  If they held like all of the bulltards on this board told them too, they made 37.5x and 4.6x their money respectively.  But no, you advocate the very few people who bought at the ATH of $1,200 to dump their coins at a major loss.  The only people losing are people listening to you, which maybe they deserve for following an unbased idoit's forum trading advice.  If there were a time to dump it was at $900, or $800, or $700.  Dumping now would be stupid.

^ agree, dumping now is retarded, the time to dump was $800-$1100.  What is falling suggesting dumping now to rebuy for $100 cheaper? if you are very very lucky

wrong, for those who bought at $32 or $260 or $7xx or $1xxx should all sell their coins because otherwise they will gain less / lose more $$$ after the price drops back to $4xx $3xx $2xx ..
"If there was a time to dump it was at $900, or $800, or $700" -> later would be "If there was a time to dump it was at $600, or $500, or $400"

there is no stupid dump timing when bitcoin is going down, earlier you dump more money you save

only if we would have a re-bounce

returning to normal was after the last dump, i think we are in a "stable fase" now, situation like this happened all the time since bitcoin is born, why people everytime are shocked is beyond me...

It looks pretty similar. We go down, it's obvious.

http://67.19.64.18/news/Zealllc/2013/1-11zi/Zeal011113A.gif

What's obvious is you don't understand the underlying fundamentals behind that chart you fool. If you buy up the entire silver backed note market, and then demand delivery of physical the price goes up. That's what happened in 1979. If it happened today, the price would go to 250+ per ounce of silver. You guys literally prove how stupid you are with every post. It's like if I posted pictures of the clouds in the sky every day with the caption "see guys, told you it was gunna fall, it hopped back up there for now, but tomorrow it's coming down for good."

I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the more recent purchasers.  You think doomsday fools like yourself only recently started showing up around here?  People yelling "SELL, IT'S GOIN DOWWNNNN" have been here since the beginning.  You're just part of the latest bunch.

What's your motivation anyways? What do you care if people lose unless you have something to gain?  Why is it so imparative to you that people sell their holdings, huh?  You offer absolutely nothing to this forum, I wonder if you offer anything with regard to life in general.


No, and you would recognize that if you actually had any analysis to backup your BS rhetoric.  But you don't, you're just here ranting and raving like a lunatic in a padded room.  $900 through $700 was during the China and GOX BS, so of course that would have been a good time to get out.  What bad news is there now to cause reason for dumping? None, just like the value of your claims.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17010952/Troll-Ideal_o_91697.jpg

But don't underestimate trolls. They are the real market makers....

Okay, dump all of your coins right now because Falllling told you to.

sorry for your $$$ lost, those bulls will only ask YOU to buy more but they won't neither buy nor push the price up (some are even dumping more), better just ignore their advice and find a good point to cut loose

oh, they might also suggest you to buy alot of coins and hold them for 10 years so they can sell higher tomorrow and grap your money :)

I'm not going to tell him to buy, just like I'm not going to tell him to sell.  I'd like him to think with his own head and make his own decisions instead of listening to people like you, whether they advocate buying or selling.  However, the real concern here is that you just write words, and words are cheap.  Ergo your opinion is cheap (read: worthless).

This is going to go down as another complete failure in the great line of failures known as Falllling's predictions.

wrong, market price has already proved that i was/am right, you know what? it is going to prove it harder with more incoming drops
no matter what you lie/dream about, you have to face the truth of price dropping, ready for the final capitulation?

The phrase "even a broken clock is right twice a day" pretty much sums up your whole posting existence here.  You're not right, you just spew shit.  Just look at your username, your whole M.O. is to come here and spread price dropping FUD.    So far I'm faced with the truth of the price increasing.  $590 resistance down to 37% of what it was yesterday.  How about them apples?  :P

What happened to all those $550 WITHIN 48 HOURS threads?  How many of those did you make before you got lucky and the price came anywhere NEAR $550?  Just another FUD spreading failure. 

Me either, and I've got 2 mortgages and a bunch of kids. I haven't even considered cutting my winnings yet.

There is nothing wrong with cutting losses if it suits your risk tolerance and personal situation.


I think that there is still new money entering, but those funds are spread out over a lot of exchanges, offline transactions, and in amounts that don't necessarily show.  If I want to put $100 in it's only going to show as a 0.17BTC buy somewhere.  The same money coming into BTC in 2012 would show as a 20BTC buy on one of the three or four exchanges active at the time. So there's that.  I also believe that there is, in fact, a lot of "wall street" money entering, but they're likely making OTC deals with places like Bitpay, Coinbase, and largescale miners.  Just take Bitfury as an example.  If we assume that they privately own 20% of the network, that's BTC21,600 BTC a month that is likely funelled into the 'black' channels.

All that aside, thinking critically there's no reason for the average 1st world person that doesn't subscribe to some of the Libertarian background to get involved with Bitcoin outside of speculative investment.  It's a lot easier for me to buy stuff on a whim using paypal than it would be to acquire and use BTC.  If there is then the argument that I should just buy a bunch of coin at once to use when needed, then I'm at the mercy of volatility, which for the average consumer can be disasterous.

Man o man, I'll be buying a load of coins because your trolling and fud tactics to initiate a dump.  I'll be sure to start a thread and publicly thank you for the cheap coins.  There will be many songs sung in your honor.  8)

Let me join you on your hodling quest :)
While i did sold some part of my holdings, most of it is still safe in my wallet for the exact reason you posted. Theres too much that happened, and the price on the market curently isnt adequate.
It seams that were in some sort of trap, and the market is searching for the 99th reason to go up

So you're saying we should heed the lesson of Falllling's continued failure(s) until that one time the stars aligned?

His next gamble is $350.  You sold your coins yet because he told you do? If not, better get on it!

We go down to $350, it's obvious. All indicators are red.

We need to get down to $1 or less to shake out all the weak hands. Only then can we see some true, sustainable growth leading us towards the next bull market.

Good lord man, where did you find this chart? It's so modern and contemporary! I can't contain myself for how informative it is!

This chart has already repeated itself 3-4 times, and related to the last bubble, we are already well beyond the edge of that chart.

I like this chart, with the "You are here." lines added by me.

https://i.imgur.com/h8DHH1l.png

After the end of that chart things will probably start to look better. Here's my just-for-fun prediction from a few days ago:

(Since then I've come to expect a lower bottom than the chart would suggest, say $350-$435, but I still think we'll recover.)

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FynG6tWW.png%3F1%3F6485&t=543&c=c5-Yws0m2GRpTA

Obviously you've never seen the market pick up 150 points in 15 minutes. 

I agree that he is likely doing nothing more then spreading FUD, I also think that he is likely not having any actual impact on the prices. I doubt that many people if anyone would consider taking advice from strangers on a forum that allows/encourages anonymity.

With that being said the short term direction of bitcoin is negative likely due to margin buying needing to be unwound.

There will always be haters with any successful investment and with any successful invention/product. The fact that there are haters and people spreading FUD is generally an indicator of something's success.   

i am always right, bitcoin is going to nowhere but down!

Yup, and if the trend reverses, just change the username to risiiing and you'll be right again :D

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

R u sure?  ;D ;D ;D
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TA80R4AwA0w/SygVB8vOimI/AAAAAAAABno/ngfTGtRde0c/s320/clocksm.jpg

9:18

Nice photo to debunk the quote. People should stop using the phase over and over again.

Wrong  ;D

7:33?

So is falllllling right or not? :P Has he made any bets yet? It gets irritating to see such attention whore actually being paid attention to.

Put him on ignore, it's not like you're missing out on anything valuable.  He's just another self-professed brainchild calling for the end of the world.

But fallling isn't a broken clock.

He has been consistently right for the past two months. If anything, he has understated his predictions. I think even fallling doesn't realise how totally fucked Bitcoin is! Why else would he have understated his crash targets time and time again?

If fallling, the most bearish Bitcoin analyst on the net is too optimistic, what does that tell you about the reality of the market?

@fallling
Cheers for your invaluable input mate. If only I had listened to you sooner and pulled everything out of Bitcoin much sooner, instead of allowing myself to be swayed by all those stupid bulltards, I would be so much richer today. 2 week 5* Caribbean holiday richer in the past two months alone! Oh well, I suppose a full winter in cold windy rainy fucking freezing Scotland counting what few pennies I have left will have to suffice.

If only I had listened to fallling!

But alas, tis too late for me!

But is it too late for the rest of you guys!?

thanks pal, you get the point, bitcoin is going to nowhere but down
dead cat bounces can only trap stupid losers, don't let scammers fool your mind

Why are you lying? He has been consistently WRONG in his "PREDICTIONS", which, by the way, are nothing more than GUESSES as they have 0 basis (he so far has provided 0 arguments for his claims, 0 technical, 0 fundamental analysis). Besides this he speaks like an autistic immigrant with broken English, seems to be unable to form sentences properly and acts like a parrot.

just give up your fooling people to buy plan, no one wants your bags scammer

more and more people can see the end of bitcoin incoming, feeling sad right? sorry for you, should have cut your loose in time :)

The phrase is: "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day".

People should stop using the wrong phrase.

Who am I scamming? Answer question.

stop insulting people with personal messages, such childishly action won't bring your lost money back
i told you to cut loose why didn't you listen? now you lost so much $$ and sending me insulting text messages for what?
you failed into bitcoin investment, admit it and let it go

btw, if you still don't listen to me to cut loose now, you will lose everything and have no where to turn your anger and frustration to, then you could do some really stupid things since you are so immature

@Sevvero

agree

@fallling

no agree, you big scammer

The last 10 days of downfall were direct effects of dumping of coins[news sources]

However this is normal and nothing to worry about.

agree, fallling is scammer, not cut loose, hodl

Fallling = Octavius + Antibitcoinconsortium

Hes a scammer, a loser who failled hiding himself and make a huge pile of Bullschit all over the forum. Hes even to stupid to realize how much he failled, each day i bust his big fat ass. I will keep hunting him down!

No, falllllling isn't right! I know you guys are disappointed, but I will do my best to make it up to you!!!  :-\ :-[

I have doubled my money, how have I failed exactly?
I told you to shut the fuck up and what did you do? Kept parroting like a retard? Where is your .pdf file explaining analysis behind claims? Can't seem to find it.

BTW, you did not answer the question. How was I scamming? Whom did I scam. Answer questions you deaf little Indian retard.

Nah, they try to manipulate people. We can only go up from here  ;) 8)

do NOT forget the dead cat bounce at just 4 days ago! $520 - $470 again!

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=bitstampUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=5&i=&c=1&s=2014-08-17&e=2014-08-18&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&

 ;D Wy bother creating different threads if you are just going to copy/paste them all with the same bullshit??

dO nOt forgett dead ket bounSse , will b GreeEn aGaIn soOn

Falllling is big TROLL!!!  Don't believe him. 

this chart and the btc is a ponzi "argument"   
will prevail as long as btc exist i´m afraid

I agree! There'll always be people who are afraid that they didn't catch the train!

sub 500 soon

sub 500, sub 400, sub 300 or 0$, it doesn't matter, you're still an idiot.  ;D ;D ;D

P.S.: and a SCAMMER

It' funny to see only Newbies, Jr members speaking about Bitcoin falling.

I'm sorry for you, you will never get Bitcoin more cheap than now

according to you we were supposed to never get passed 517, and then you edited your prediction the second we passed it. so if we don't go past 500 today are you going to turn around and change it to sub 505 soon? you're such a fuckin joke.

He's not. Falling is a false prophet. Unlike me.

https://i.imgur.com/az6rWrh.png

All of this has happened before (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bOy3RNyWME).

LOL, quoting for truth.

He is right for the WRONG reasons.

Anyway, unless he is shorting big time, he will not benefit from it.

The market only care right and wrong and don't care about "reason".

Same thing with our society, you are either on top of the society or you are not. Nobody care the reason.

he is right only for the short terms, but bitcoin is a long term thing, so he is actually wrong

Trader is only in for the short term. As for investor, most people here expecting to get rich in 1-2 years.

Wish it is that easy.

glad to see more and more people understand better the market and the downtrend of bitcoin

bull scammers start losing their fool power

Too bad the only accounts that agree with you are owned/run by you too!  You should probably get your head checked.  Might help you be less of a scammer.

buy wall is weaker now! time to dump 1.5k coins and go back to $4xx

Why are you scamming people again?  :'(

They just try to make price go down so they can buy at lower price.

go ahead be my guest to buy, bitcoin is breaking into $4xx soon,

why don't you buy "cheaper coins" now? because they are going to be much more cheaper :D

So you want to buy them cheaper because you know we will see ATH next year.

there is no "cheap coins" if bitcoin keep dropping down everyday

The term "cheap" should be compare to production cost.

The production cost for an average miner is higher than 600 per coin, and slightly lower for the ASIC manufacture.

Unless bitcoin go away, the coin price has to go up at least above the production cost.

the production cost doesn't decide bitcoin's price, supply and demand back up it's price
so if less buyer than seller, bitcoin drops lower than the production cost until miners decide to cut loose and stop mining (the end)

Is production cost really an issue? It hasn't been an issue since GPU-mining.

With ASIC mining, it's not that it's inefficient at mining bitcoins. It's that the initial cost is huge, and the difficulty causes the profitability to decline -- unless you buy more ASICs to stay ahead/with the game. But then you're down some more money again...

Vicious cycle; though I do personally know of two people who actively mine. One claims 20,000$ yearly profit, but you won't get near this if you start today without a lump sum to start with.

How much money would you need to buy enough equipment to pay out 20,000$ yearly profit?

No amount of money can generate you 20k profit as even the most efficient antminer S3 gives negative yield.

So are you saying they're cooking the books? Or they just live in a different dimension than you? If its impossible, why is it happening?

Fallling is right, I should have listened to him and sell when high :(

sorry for your loss :(
damnedest bulls scammers!

Sell when high hahahahaha.....

Buy low, sell high is the most useless advice since you never know when it's low or high.
In 3 months you will probably be bashing your head in why you didn't buy $500 coins when the price goes to $1k.
If that happens remember this "Buy when low" ....  :P