Title: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: BartmaX on August 11, 2014, 09:06:05 AM I would like to buy Bitcoin Trezor, but Blockchain can be also good.
Pros and cons (in my opinion): Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] If you have got 2FA your phone could be hacked, and hacker can see your messages (also verify messages from Blockchain, so he can withdraw BTC) [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ + ] Speed suport answers [ - ] Price: $120 What do u think? Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: bithernet on August 11, 2014, 09:29:00 AM You can try our solution, ;)
See the following topic for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606238.0 Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Silly Money on August 11, 2014, 09:53:24 AM You could lose the trezor or it could break. Depends if you are willing to spend money on it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: BartmaX on August 11, 2014, 09:58:22 AM You could lose the trezor or it could break. Depends if you are willing to spend money on it. I will be able to recover it.http://doc.satoshilabs.com/trezor-user/recovery.html Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Silly Money on August 11, 2014, 10:02:11 AM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too?
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: BartmaX on August 11, 2014, 10:05:31 AM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too? You may say that somebody can get recovery seeds? What if you hold it in safe? :)Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Silly Money on August 11, 2014, 10:08:31 AM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too? You may say that somebody can get recovery seeds? What if you hold it in safe? :)Well if it's not in a safe or a safe place they can. If you can access it somebody else might as well. Or you lose thiose seeds. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: CoinRocka on August 11, 2014, 11:22:38 AM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too? You may say that somebody can get recovery seeds? What if you hold it in safe? :)Well if it's not in a safe or a safe place they can. If you can access it somebody else might as well. Or you lose thiose seeds. This is not a vulnerability of the product or service...the user. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: HarmonLi on August 11, 2014, 11:34:28 AM I would like to buy Bitcoin Trezor, but Blockchain can be also good. Pros and cons (in my opinion): Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] If you have got 2FA your phone could be hacked, and hacker can see your messages (also verify messages from Blockchain, so he can withdraw BTC) [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ + ] Speed suport answers [ - ] Price: $120 What do u think? We are talking about blockchain.info here. Not the Bitcoin blockchain. Please try to make that clear in the future! Those are two different things! If blockchain.info gets hacked, hackers won't have access to your coins, since you retain at least a part of your private key. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: BartmaX on August 11, 2014, 07:32:25 PM I would like to buy Bitcoin Trezor, but Blockchain can be also good. Pros and cons (in my opinion): Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] If you have got 2FA your phone could be hacked, and hacker can see your messages (also verify messages from Blockchain, so he can withdraw BTC) [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ + ] Speed suport answers [ - ] Price: $120 What do u think? We are talking about blockchain.info here. Not the Bitcoin blockchain. Please try to make that clear in the future! Those are two different things! If blockchain.info gets hacked, hackers won't have access to your coins, since you retain at least a part of your private key. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: franky1 on August 11, 2014, 09:39:25 PM Pros and cons (in my opinion):
Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ + ] If you have cellphone 2FA authentication you have to have physical access to your phone [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ - ] i sent a support message a week ago, still awaiting a reply [ - ] Price: $120 [ - ] a trojan/phish can be used to make the website integration perform a man in the middle to request the seed [ - ]cant be used easily whilst out and about, such as on smart phone Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 11, 2014, 09:51:38 PM Pros and cons (in my opinion): Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ + ] If you have cellphone 2FA authentication you have to have physical access to your phone [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ - ] i sent a support message a week ago, still awaiting a reply [ - ] Price: $120 [ - ] a trojan/phish can be used to make the website integration perform a man in the middle to request the seed [ - ]cant be used easily whilst out and about, such as on smart phone This right here is pretty accurate IMO. I don't have my trezor yet, but it should be arriving today (I hope), so I will be able to report back on the comparison of both. The convenience of being able to use blockchain.info while out and about is a major plus. Basically if you have BTC in both spots that is obviously the best. I guess it comes down to how frequently you plan on spending BTC. If you don't plan on spending often, then Trezor is probably better. If you are frequently trading, buying, selling, sending... then maybe blockchain.info is better for you. Obviously if you have less than $120 in BTC, then Trezor is not a smart decision. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: franky1 on August 11, 2014, 09:58:54 PM Pros and cons (in my opinion): Blockchain: [ + ] Free [ + ] If you have cellphone 2FA authentication you have to have physical access to your phone [ - ] Servers can be hacked [ - ] You can lost Bitcoins by phishing [ - ] Support - I sent e-mail to Blockchain about 3 weeks ago and I still wait for answer Trezor: [ + ] If you want to send BTC you have to have physical access to Trezor [ + ] Physical buttons on Trezor - they can not be hacked [ - ] i sent a support message a week ago, still awaiting a reply [ - ] Price: $120 [ - ] a trojan/phish can be used to make the website integration perform a man in the middle to request the seed [ - ]cant be used easily whilst out and about, such as on smart phone This right here is pretty accurate IMO. I don't have my trezor yet, but it should be arriving today (I hope), so I will be able to report back on the comparison of both. The convenience of being able to use blockchain.info while out and about is a major plus. Basically if you have BTC in both spots that is obviously the best. I guess it comes down to how frequently you plan on spending BTC. If you don't plan on spending often, then Trezor is probably better. If you are frequently trading, buying, selling, sending... then maybe blockchain.info is better for you. Obviously if you have less than $120 in BTC, then Trezor is not a smart decision. summary: trezor for long term "savings" blockchain.info for SMALL "daily spend" Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: InwardContour on August 11, 2014, 10:13:55 PM Trezor is more user friendly than blockchain.info, this point isn't written in OP list but is really important.
Try to teach your parents how to use both wallets and let them choose what is the best... I know the answer! Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Cryptopher on August 11, 2014, 10:57:09 PM OP, you mention that blockchain.info has only the positive of free, while you say that Trezor has only one negative which is the cost of a product that provides three positive according to you.
Surely you have answered your own question? Buy the Trezor. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Xenoph0bia on August 11, 2014, 11:19:46 PM I preffer the option with lowest possibility to loose my Bitcoins. Trezor wins, but Trezor does not offer additional security for those not understanding how Trezor exactly works, so non tech people are likely to loose Bitcoins when using Trezor at compromised computer/server and revealing seed or not checking the transaction details on Trezor when signing or accepting not signed firmware
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 12, 2014, 01:39:11 AM I preffer the option with lowest possibility to loose my Bitcoins. Trezor wins, but Trezor does not offer additional security for those not understanding how Trezor exactly works, so non tech people are likely to loose Bitcoins when using Trezor at compromised computer/server and revealing seed or not checking the transaction details on Trezor when signing or accepting not signed firmware If you reveal your seed, you will basically lose your BTC with any type of wallet. I haven't received my Trezor yet (I thought it was arriving today), but I thought one of the whole points of it was to be able to use it securely even if you have a compromised computer... Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: cryptworld on August 12, 2014, 01:50:59 AM The problem of online wallets is that you actually don't have your bitcoins
they are in possesion of third party blockchain is ok for daily use and small quantities but if you are going to hold a large amount... I prefer other options Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: heybigboy1 on August 12, 2014, 02:09:21 AM I've heard lots of great things about Trezor. I'd go with that plus its at a good price
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Hfleer on August 12, 2014, 02:11:37 AM Op do you know the difference between blockchain and blockchain.info?
Fix that please... Also trezor by far. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: yuriygeorge on August 14, 2014, 01:14:01 AM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too? Technically, you don't have to write the seed down if you don't want and then it wouldn't be recoverable. But, people in general do want this. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Vortex20000 on August 14, 2014, 08:17:36 AM TREZOR, any day. More secure.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: pajrinn on August 14, 2014, 03:51:36 PM I think Blockchain it's a good wallet , because im never use Bitcoin Trezor and 2FA ;D
I'm sorry before my brother :'( Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 14, 2014, 04:22:41 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night.
Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Hfleer on August 14, 2014, 07:04:20 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 14, 2014, 07:36:30 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running? Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Hfleer on August 14, 2014, 07:39:19 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running? Yes it is. And after importing this one seed you have access to ALL privatekeys you could ever accessed with that trezor account. Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Xenoph0bia on August 14, 2014, 09:17:57 PM I preffer the option with lowest possibility to loose my Bitcoins. Trezor wins, but Trezor does not offer additional security for those not understanding how Trezor exactly works, so non tech people are likely to loose Bitcoins when using Trezor at compromised computer/server and revealing seed or not checking the transaction details on Trezor when signing or accepting not signed firmware If you reveal your seed, you will basically lose your BTC with any type of wallet. I haven't received my Trezor yet (I thought it was arriving today), but I thought one of the whole points of it was to be able to use it securely even if you have a compromised computer... Yes, trezor is secure on a compromised computer, but you still could be tricked, like asking to sign different transaction (so always check transaction details on trezor display). There are more ways how to trick you when using trezor at compromised computer, so the user is the weak point with trezor Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: efiin on August 14, 2014, 09:18:41 PM I love the look of Trezor and think I'll be getting it but its a little expensive for me at the moment.
Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 14, 2014, 10:06:26 PM If it's recoverable isn't that a weakness in itself? What iof somebody else can recover it too? Technically, you don't have to write the seed down if you don't want and then it wouldn't be recoverable. But, people in general do want this. I definitely would not recommend not saving the recovery seed. Since these are so new, I'm sure a hardware failure isn't out of the question Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: keithers on August 14, 2014, 10:08:27 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! I've never actually had to use a backup seed before, is it really as easy as typing in the words, and then you are off and running? Yes it is. And after importing this one seed you have access to ALL privatekeys you could ever accessed with that trezor account. Thanks, are you plugging in your trezor every time you check your balance, or are you just entering the receiving address? I have not really used a block explorer before...I have just sat on my coins (and spent some here and there), how come when I enter the receiving address into blockchain.info, it doesn't show any transactions for the address? Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: zedicus on August 14, 2014, 11:30:37 PM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! Title: Re: Bitcoin Trezor vs Blockchain + 2FA Post by: Fray on August 15, 2014, 12:10:14 AM I got my trezor a couple days ago, and just had the time to set it up last night. Once you figure it out, it is pretty easy to use. The ease of use is about equal to blockchain.info. Blockchain.info is still better to use on the go though because if you want to send money from your trezor (and you are not at your computer), you have to install the browser plugin. Many public computers will not allow you to do this (by default), and many of your friends may not want you installing things on their computer. I am a little concerned about holding a significant amount of BTC on the Trezor and then having a hardware failure, as up until this point, Wallet32 is the only wallet that you are able to restore your coins to (without purchasing another Trezor). IMO, if you are thinking about buying a Trezor, you should consider buying 2, in case on of them fails in the future. Electrum and armory will soon support the backup seed. Also Blockchain.info is looking into it! |