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I think OF is awesome, but it's such a DRAG how few people use it. It's also a bummer that the owner of OF doesn't keep making improvements. There are so many awesome things that could be done to improve it.

I'm shocked that there isn't a ton of competitors out there chomping at the bits. The ad industry is a big moneymaker. Is there anything out there that competes with OF, and I don't mean pyramid schemes?

I couldn't agree more I was looking at it yesterday it has such potential.

i think http://anonymousads.com/ is more popular

if you have used anonymousads.com please write them a review http://www.thebitcoinreview.com/site.php?site_id=834

More popular? I don't think so. Especially when people with 40k impressions seem to earn something like 0.07 BTC...
AA and OF are not the same thing.
And yes, I also think that OF should get a lot more attention.
To OF owner: Are you willing to sell it? :P

I added my site to the OF list of affiliates but none were every approved and I've never heard anything from them (Google AdSense were interested tho?).  While "Anonymous Ads" doesn't pay very well at least it pays.

I got paid several times from OF.

OF pays me all the time. I'm one of OF's biggest publishers.

I'm not getting paid anymore because I sold the website almost 5 months ago and I'm still trying to find time to finish the replacement for it. (maybe if I didn't spend so much time goofing around at bitcointalk.org...)

I need some advertisers for my site.. what's "OF" what's the url

http://www.operationfabulous.com/

oh I know about that, I thought you were saying this new service called "OF" was better than operation fabulous..this is embarrassing

One area where Operation Fabulous has room for improvement is in the process a new publisher goes through.

Right now the process requires the publisher to get approval by adding the OF adbox (script) to the site where the ads will be published and to wait for OF staff to review it and mark the site as active.  Then once that happens there are no paying ads being published until an advertiser bids a sufficient amount to get ads shown.

Until that happen the "inventory" is wasted.  By the time that paid ads might start showing, the publisher might already have moved on to some other online advertising platform.

This is particularly a problem where the publisher is selective and chooses the "explicit approval" option in which only ads that get the publisher's approval are allowed to be shown.  In review of the advertisers many are for sites that would be considered spammy, scammy or just not a good fit for the publisher's visitors.  So the publisher generally should choose this explicit inclusion mode.  But even then spending a few minutes looking at the list of ads from advertisers to include, the publisher sees these:
 
  BiddingPond (has been "coming soon" for months)
  Cash Cow Casino (closed, was a scam anyway apparently)
  FXNet - Bitcoin Ponzi (really, it was a ponzi site -- taken down after MyBitcoin)
  BitLotto - Win Big With 1 BTC  (has been 0.25 BTC since August)
  Ubitex  (long gone)
  BitMunchies (closed)
  SquareWear (for the most part closed)
  MetaCo.in (closed)
  TradeHill (closed)
  BTCOnTilt (closed)
 and on and on.

So one improvement would be do so housecleaning and weed out the inactive advertisers.

The next might be to make it so that publisher can choose from the list of active advertisers in advance rather than not starting that process until after having already begin publishing the Operation Fabulous adbox.

I no longer push ads to Operation Fabulous. I spent too many hours of my time dealing with each individual website. Why can't I just make a universal bid!

uh...  SexyBitcoinAds (http://sexybitcoinads.com) ?

AA does not usually pay for impressions, because impressions can be faked easily.

Yes, there is a problem with monetization, and I am permanently working to solve it.

Affiliates that add their highly ranked sites earn more in latest days (you can access their stats if you navigate from http://anonymousads.com/sites page).

Advertisers can see the list of sites that showed their ads (and they can create a weighted "paylist" at btcrelay (http://btcrelay.com) to pay all those sites at once thus getting much more new impressions from them for less money). For example, here is the list of sites that showed ad #1 (http://anonymousads.com/ad/1/sites).

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I started Operation Fabulous more than a year ago because there were no advertising possibilities and people were asking for it. It was a solution for the community at that time (I had no serious plans to make a profit out of it). While I'm still busy developing it from time to time (and maintaining it, of course), I don't have so much spare time due to my work.

I've had offers of people in the past to purchase it from me, but rejected them. Seeing this type of discussion coming back from time to time and knowing that I do not have the time to bring the site up to the level it should be for the current market (and still lacking good alternatives) I think it is time to reconsider to hand over the site to some more dedicated person.

I do however need confidence that the person who I will be selling the site to is respected within the bitcoin community, the last thing I want is to have the site and all the work I put into it to fall in the hands of some scammer that wants to get a quick buck out of it. I want some confidence that the site will be in good hands.

Psy, was your point about buying Operation Fabulous serious? I see you have quite some posts already, so I guess you've gained some respect in the community.

Glad to hear from you! I understand how other obligations can prevent you from further engrossing yourself in this endeavor. But I hope for the sake of publishers, advertisers, and Bitcoin users everywhere that you do find somebody to sell OF to. If I could code I'd buy it from you. But there has got to be enough coders and entrepreneurs in the Bitcoin community to make OF what it can and very well should be, the GOOGLE ADSENSE OF BITCOIN.

Best of luck! And keep us posted please!  :)

Hi BioMike,

What's the technology behind the site (e.g. Apache/PHP/MySQL)? And what's the approximate turnover in BTC per day?

My point was more in the way of giving you a hint to sell it.
Altho I could buy it, manage it and improve it, even if I had to hire someone to do that, because I'm not a programmer, and I don't even imagine what powers OF in the backend(RoR, PHP?), you can probably find someone more skilled to sell it to.

You can always PM me a proposal. I'll promise I'll read it carefully and see what needs to be improved on the site and who I'll need to hire to achieve those results and give you an honest answer.

I could make some simple cheap graphics if who ever ends up with the site remodels it...

I'm also open for a community sell. Respected people grouping together and run it together (more as a business, then you would have different roles, e.g. server admins, site designers, support desk, people handling "the finances"), maybe issue shares on GLBSE to fund it (I would even buy a few of those). Such group would have my preference.

Some of the server aspects:
PHP (OO programmed with a clear separation of user facing scripts and backend classes to increase security)
Firebird as backend database (not a common choice, but had my reasons for that)
PHP and Python running in the backend as daemon for various tasks
Bitcoind running on the server for pay out with a minimum of the funds.

The services are running on a VPS from kalyhost (not everybody might like them, but I never had any problems with them).
The OS is Gentoo Linux, using a hardened AMD64 profile, software is up to date.
I'm using IPtables to shield off services that should not be exposed to everybody.

As you see security was always a main point for me (Operation Fabulous got started at the time when people were hacking into various bitcoin related sites), the community was already facing with sites disappearing and people losing money (and the trust in those sites).

The money turn over fluctuates a bit over time. Because I keep most money off-server I normally can do with about 20 BTC on the server for a few days, but I've had times when this would be gone in just 2 days. Counting up the first few rates from https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list current pay out would be around 4 BTC/day.

somewhat relevant? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75177.0

that would be great if it worked.


never saw this list before. it's much better than the other lists. you should present it more prominently

edd has been in contact with me on that, to see what can be arranged. If you would like to join, contact him.

It's part of a new set of pages that allows a new way of bidding on a site and allows the pubishers to direct potential advertisers to more info about advertising on their site. I haven't had the time to integrate it in the site yet, but I'll try to do it this week (no guarantees).


I told edd already to maybe contact that person, maybe he wants to join in.

Hi. I am worked on something for operation fabulous. Hope to see my change on the operationfabulous site soon.  8)

Ok, it is somewhat integrated now, including the pie chart code that Kiba wrote (do note that it can take up to 30 seconds to load the data from the database if there is nothing in the cache). Click on the title of the site to go to the site specific part, from there you can get a lot more information about the site and place/edit/delete bids.

Cool! It's always nice to see my work live.
/me hopes for more work for kiba from operationfabulous

Yes, yes, yes please!

BioMike I sent you a PM regards Operation Fabulous.

This is my new service: http://bitcoinsense.com/ will be officially announced in a couple days when a few minor improvements get added.

You have many adf.ly links in your sign.
Are you able to make an adf.ly clone but with Bitcoin?

Will it support images?

Sounds like a neat idea but I can't at this time.


No text only at this time.

I have since rebranded my site as http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/

did google complain or did you just have second thoughts?

Can't wait for the images to go up!

Even if OpFab goes the way of the dodo, BioMike has helped spearhead something that is desperately needed in the Bitcoin community. Competition is a good thing and bitcoinadvertisers looks like it's ready to take the lead. I'm happy with that as a publisher who feels his banners are being underutilized. Also, the name bitcoinadvertisers is likely to get a much better pagerank than Operation Fabulous, which doesn't have any logical connection to bitcoin advertising, and is also plagued with much higher pageranks to the television show, or whatever it is, Operation Fabulous.

So you toss up a new advertising site without even bothering to iron out the bugs, and now you are trying to scare away all the other existing sites. Classy.

i was looking for something else other than opfab, thanks for this new service

For people in this thread, I would like to say that I made ThroughAds (http://throughads.com) for anyone wishing to advertise with images. With Andrew Bitcoiner words, I am making a big shi* on the pot...

the more advertising systems the better but what are the problems with of again? it works fine for me.

I have tested anonymousads and bitcoinadvertisers so far and anonymousads pays better for me, also bitcoinadvertisers is really easy to fraud with fake clicks as far as I understand how this works

I tested a bit longuer and the revenue I get is about the same for the two websites, more or less 20%, I'd say, although I I havent reached 0.1btc on bitcoinadvertisers yet
 
About the fake clicks, I was referring to the PPC model in general, not to bitcoinadvertisers in particular

For anyone taking Andrew Bitcoiner's rant seriously, you should take a look at this thread first before drawing your conclusions.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0

If you want to get rid of the trolls and FUD, you would actually start by addressing all points raised and not selectively ignoring the ones that don't suit your whims. Just because "that's the way google does it" doesn't mean fuck all for your tiny hole-in-the-wall business(es).

Thanks for your opinion but I am wondering why does this concern you?

It concerns your whole business, or soon-to-be-lack thereof, because of an impending scammer investigation.

You didn't answer my question, how or why do allegations about me concern you personally?

They prevent me from even considering your platform as a way to promote anything.

Well since you realize that advertising services have to take strong measures to protect advertisers deposits from being wasted, maybe you can make a recommendation as to what I should do to sites that generate extremely high CTR on multiple banners spread through their website and have telltale signs of click fraud (and lets say there is other telltale signs such as a log with iPad clicks every 20 minutes with a matching browser version over a 48 hour period)?

FYI, Operation Fabulous is already brought by someone else. Whether or not they will begin the effort of revamping the site is anybody's guess.

I wasn't referring to any specific anti-fraud measures at all, but to the CS perspective of how they may be handled.

But nevermind. I don't need to worry about your service and I'll keep quiet.

No. BioMike told me when I was asking for more work.

Better handling of your customers. Don't be the google adsense of the bitcoin economy.

You're not the first person to tell him those words...

If you have to make that choice manually, your business is not going to scale anyway.

Perhaps make some design changes so that it's not so attractive to the scammers.

From edd:


 - http://opfab.net/new-owners

The problem is, in trying to contact them, submitting on the Contact Page gives:

Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads up!

Interested in purchase, make public bids here?

I suggest you whack site up at flippa.com to maximize your profit, but i can assure you if i was to purchase i can continue with development.

New owners(edd and all) are too lazy.  >:(

Definitely not lazy. 

We are going to completely re-do the interface, I can probably have that done in a day or two, but the first priority was to get the website moved to our new host (right now we are paying for two hosting packages) and it was literally emails back and forth since JUNE and FINALLY we got the server that we can use.  The website itself is very advanced in the inner-workings and we can not just simply upload the files to a server and it works, there are a lot of deep hooks that go into the OS which have caused a problem in not only a transition from one server type to the next but also the operating system itself is changing, and we have to get everything perfect before we make the final switch.

You cannot call me lazy, I spend at least 5-10 hours a day working on my websites.  I WISH, and I mean WISH I had Operation Fabulous moved to the new server, like tonight, so I can start working on it.  I can have the interface revamped by the end of the week.  There is a time-zone difference between me, Edd, and the original owner, BioMike.  Me and Edd are in CST, whereas BioMike lives on the other side of the world and he can only be available to help work on the site during the week when it's like 2AM my time, and I work full time in IT so I basically have to go to bed the moment he's ready to work on it.  But right now "working on it" is "moving the site to the new server."  If I could have a sheet of paper that tells me exactly what I need to do to take the OpFab files and make them work on the server, I would do that right now.  I promise you guys, a week from now the site should be improved.  I'm kind of against a wall right now because the site is so overcomplicated (IMHO) but I'll get it not only get it running faster, but with a new theme, new features, and a REALLY big announcement to be made, you guys are going to be shocked with the new implementation of Operation Fabulous.

We are doing an IPO for Operation Fabulous, and the money we are raising is going straight into the development of the site.  Otherwise there really is no need to do an IPO, everything is working fine and no additional capital is needed.  With additional funds we will see to improve the site even further, I have a laundry list of a hundred things I would want and will get changed.  I am talking with three different developers right now.

Progress looks slow, but it's progress.  Words can't describe how frustrated I was that 20 emails had to go back and forth to our hosting provider and it took us this long to get a server (our originally "quarterly" billing cycle expired without us having a server we could use, at our cost). 

I can say definitively that OF has some serious work to do. I signed up as a publisher something like 4 days ago and after wasting the first 24 hours displaying an OF logo because of a manual approval process I've displayed that same logo for another 72 hours because no one is bidding.

You can't say my ad spots are bad - slot 1 (https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=site_page&wid=971) is close to the top of the page and damn near the center, and slot 2 (https://operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=site_page&wid=972) is just beneath it. Granted I only have 2 days worth of stats there but the averages, while falling well below my actual readership (I'm guessing adblock is responsible for that), are respectable - certainly higher than some of the other publishers in the list that actually have active bids. They're good solid ad slots and they've been sitting vacant for 72 hours, I even tried setting to minimum bid to 0 and I couldn't even GIVE the slots away. There has to be a better way for advertisers to find good ad slots.

I have no doubt that someone will eventually buy some ad space and I can start making money but honestly if I'd spent as much time in the past 72 hours contacting would-be advertisers directly as I've spent staring at that damn OF logo I probably could have sold two ad slots for a solid month the hard way. Hell, I may still have to consider that option...

I really want OF to succeed, the Bitcoin world needs both CPM and CPC advertising and right now OF seems to be the best contender in the CPM realm, but man there's still a long way to go, especially where getting ads into slots for new publishers is concerned.

No, progress looks dead. If you have reported what's going on in a weekly or even a monthy dispatch, I wouldn't be whining. But now I know. I am hoping.

Talking about dubious:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87567.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104896.0

Operation Fabulous is not a scam. I've used them for a while and they actually pay their publishers unlike your scammy little service.

I'm glad to hear the feedback, I know there is much to be done.  For example, when a user signs up as a publisher, a simple PHP script to fire off an email to inform me that there is someone awaiting approval?  That is my first priority, that's a 2-second change that will help tremendously.  I made a huge list of things that need to be done, but there are things I am still learning about the site, me and Edd bought the site earlier in the year and I think it was 2-3 months later I was given the instruction on how to approve websites for people.  I went in there, and omg, it's a loooooooong list.  There are many websites that have signed up, and then I presume they got frustrated at seeing the unapproved box for a day or two and they remove the box, so when the admin goes in to check the sites, if they visit a publisher and see the site doesn't have an ad box, he won't approve it, so it just sits in the list endlessly.  There are a dozen ways I would want to improve that page itself, to make it easier for an admin to filter through results and whatnot, but I think it would be possible to approve websites through the normal interface somehow, since right now in order to do anything in the admin I need to SSH into the box, change a file so it will be accessible to viewing in a browser, then proceed approving sites.  I think there are several other safe ways to do that, although right now it's such an ultra-secure system that this is sort of the best way and it is functional but, yea, there is much to improve.  I can see the need for approving sites, but IMHO we don't need admin to approve a website before it goes live.  If a website is getting traffic, it should be automatically able to receive bids.  Then maybe an admin should check which sites are added and remove those that shouldn't be there?  Something to consider. 

I also have an idea on how to fill up the empty ad boxes, like yours right now you have incredible traffic but it takes at least a week before your box has a lot of bids on it.  Look at bitcointrading.com's bids (https://www.operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=site_page&wid=359&from=0), right now it's actually bidding pretty low at 0.09 BTC per day, but look at how many people are bidding.  It is not uncommon for the bidding to get all the way up to 1.0 BTC per day per ad square on a site like mine.  In the past year, I have probably made 50-100 BTC through advertising with OperationFabulous, I'll look up the exact figure.  Some of the lesser publishers, with only getting 50 pageviews per day, will not get enormous bids on them, but they will more than likely have bids if they set their minimum bid to zero, so they will get at least a bid of a few bitcents and they will make leaps and bounds more than other bitcoin advertising services.  If you look at bitcointrading's second ad box (https://www.operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=site_page&wid=376&from=0), the one on the top right, it's bid is currently at 0.011 BTC per day, although it is exactly the same in positioning to the box on the left, but for some reason everyone bids on the left box.  One advertiser is getting a lot more views to his BTC than the other.  I think individual advertising box bidding is a great idea, but in this case it might need a bit of tweaking.  Since the website tells us how many views per BTC the box is currently getting, then perhaps a person could put a blanket advertisement site-wide for any site that meets that many views per BTC.  There must be a way for us to do that.  I see the site and I can just think of so many ways that I can make the site better.  I might need a hand with the actual coding of how to change that, or if we re-do the whole bidding system altogether, it will probably be worth the effort.  Thing is, right now the site works perfectly fine the way it is designed to do, we just need to make Operation Fabulous 2.0 basically. 

Since the 'other' advertisers use per-click and per-impression bidding systems, their results should be pretty similar depending on the amount of pageviews.  Can users of these services post their results, are you getting paid decently?  I had horrible results.  With BitcoinAdvertisers I had 2 ad boxes up for about a month and I never got a penny, so I took them off.  I've left the Anonymous Ads box up there still for almost a year now and I have only made 0.03 BTC.  I put up a CoinURL box and I received 0.029 BTC this month, I just signed up Sept. 1st to try it out.  My Operation Fabulous boxes outperform all three services 10-to-1 most of the time, and easily paying me more daily what I would make in a month, and this is just one of my websites on there.  If your results differ than mine, post below. 

wow.  I went to check on the total that I earned as an Operation Fabulous publisher, and the amount is awesome.  I earned a total of 180.62310363 BTC!!  What did you guys earn?

Here are the blockchain.info pages for my payment addresses:

But first here's an advertisement from my favorite publisher:

https://i.imgur.com/doUP0.jpg (http://www.dragons.tl/)
(you rock!) :)

ok here is the first address, when the site was pointed at my wallet (113.27055 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/address/17R9ZzoAeo6m5t4qzGGaFbTK1UhiHwMtvw (http://blockchain.info/address/17R9ZzoAeo6m5t4qzGGaFbTK1UhiHwMtvw)

then I changed the address when I had to point some funds at them from April to June (15.93130328 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/address/1NX94MJ6xqhtUCxRn6eo1Dtzdr4NvFQ5X8 (http://blockchain.info/address/1NX94MJ6xqhtUCxRn6eo1Dtzdr4NvFQ5X8)

then I changed it back to my wallet (24.13763104 BTC and counting)

http://blockchain.info/address/1HpRAxotQP59vzMNyDGx2L9WkXP5hmwcrd (http://blockchain.info/address/1HpRAxotQP59vzMNyDGx2L9WkXP5hmwcrd)

I also have another website, arcadegenies.com, and it has a separate address (27.28361931 BTC):

http://blockchain.info/address/16BZomK64Xxi3G7nsYmrTSMxEqFNikzcHG (http://blockchain.info/address/16BZomK64Xxi3G7nsYmrTSMxEqFNikzcHG)



That's not including what the site itself earns, that's just me having banners on my site. 

Received this much lifetime from the address listed at operation fabulous: 14.97095204 BTC   

Also, it appears that I am earning bitcoin like clockwork. Every 5 days or so, I would get 0.05 BTC. Only bitcoinweekly.com is earning anything. Kibabase is earning nothing(mostly because its traffic is low).

I hope operation fabulous is going to get modernized soon. It's driving me insane.

Looking for suggestions here as to what features would be desired for an ad network.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110279.msg1199973 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110279.msg1199973)

Soon, very very soon.

Turns out I was right, a couple hours and a few PMs worth of effort scored a Coinabul ad at a fair rate (thanks Coinabul!). Admittedly it would be way harder to pull that off if I didn't have good volume, but it still shouldn't be easier for me to negotiate ad placement via forum PM than via a platform explicitly designed for such.

On the plus side I do finally have a couple bids trickling in for my first ad box so I can at least confirm that OF *does* work, just slowly.  ;D

I'm glad to hear there is progress being made, OF seems like it has the underpinnings of a good platform, it just needs some work - and it looks like it's getting that work.

If anyone one else wants some ads, please PM me! :)

What kind of IPO? The GLBSE one or a legally enforced one?

Is a GLBSE one not legally enforceable?

No, I don't think so.

If you can't afford the money for development, which sounds like what you're trying to get out of fundraising, then you can hire me on the cheap to improve things around here, however small that may be.

Be aware that I can find far better value for my labor on the market, but I am willing to help you guys for token wage at first, until you got more customer and can afford to pay closer to market value.

I want operation fabulous to succeed too. So it'll make me money in term of additional publishers in the ecosystem.

PM'd! :D

This makes me pretty damn happy  :D

do you happen to know what is necessary for a site showing up on the new bidding pages? mine just won't.

btw: tried a couple of other advertising systems, they were no better.

You may not have been approved. PM mc_lovin.

In anycase, I am seeing that he's working on improving the site look, but it will be a while until I get handed the source code of the site. Then, I can start making modification to the site in all...sort of ways.

Man, I'm just blown away at how many new publishers we are getting.  Is that like 20 this week?

BitcoinX is showing up on the 'old style' list, so that is working perfectly:

https://i.imgur.com/E8Xzs.png

However, I don't think it's showing up on the 'new style' list.  That's a paddlin'.  Needs fixage!  Kiba!!  Fix itttt!  :)

OpFab is going to be awesome soon.  Soon can't come soon enough.

Would also be easier to get bids if I had accurate stats:

https://i.imgur.com/ovrgj.png

While the overall shape of this curve does match my actual stats, I know for a fact I didn't have 0 page views on 9/22  ;D

Also, your code as it exists gets nailed by adblock for Chrome.

Other than that I am at least getting some bids now that one of my ad slots is listed in the new layout (albeit sans screenshot) so I can't complain too much, though it is a pretty sad CPM so far. I do recognize that OF is basically Project Wonderful in slow motion as far as that's concerned though, so I'll bide my time and wait for more bidders.

I received a folder and the bootstrapped project. I have no access to the server and even no database!

Tomorrow, I'll see the handy work of biomike. I suspected I will be more horrified than happy. PHP have a really bad reputation as a web language and community.

Ain't a bug to me.

Fair enough, but Bitcoiners are a pretty technically adept crowd, so nearly half of my hits see no ads. Great for them if they don't want ads, terrible for your publishers' CPM stats

So...  People use adblock extensively?  Is that something we can even avoid?  I never used the extension before, but I just installed it and it looks like it does a good job at blocking ads.  If it's blocking Google ads, chances are it's blocking OpFab. 

The site is going to undergo an overhaul.  Stay tuned.

I noticed heavy ad blocking, too. To be honest I have ABP installed myself :)


Also OF was very slow lately. It should be possible to put the banner loading code at the end of the page so it does not delay the display of the rest of the page for 20secs.

It doesn't block the WP125 ads of my direct sponsors - it did by default but it blocks those ads and yours based on the CSS class names of the divs, which I can change regularly in my WP125 ads but can't change in OF's ads because for some reason it breaks your JavaScript :P

The slowness problem is also going to be healed very soon.  We have a much faster server which is set up and will hopefully be live shortly.  This week, hopefully?

Always underpromise, and over-deliver my friend.

Okay, it will be up ASAP, I can't say how soon, but the server is running, it has all the packages required to run the code, the files are on there, basically I need to import the database and switch the DNS and it will be live.  It has been a process to get this far.  The server is ridiculously fast compared to the existing one.  Faster than ridiculous.  Faster than ludacris speed, we are going to go PLAID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0)!

https://i.imgur.com/AOGOc.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0)

(but please don't make the layout plaid kiba)

Ok. I am officially horrified. The home page is managed by a php file that echo everything. This should just be HTML proper or be done entirely in haml.

I know, everything is ass-backwards.  Basically, make it 2012-worthy.  :)

http://www.diigo.com/item/image/36ppp/73xq

Here is what Operation Fabulous looks like now. Most of my time is not spent on adding twitter bootstrap, but rather writing out the sorry echos that are everywhere.

<3 bootstrap

Looking forward to the new hotness.

What about ordering publishers by number of impressions, not the highest bid? In current condition even large sites are experiencing difficulties to find advertisers if they have no bids.

+1  also some sites are not showing up at all  ::)

+1000 - and I'll go so far as to say that there should be a tabular view in which users can sort by any column in either direction, if they want. "Click header to sort" is pretty standard functionality.

They are not just stylistic issue, they're also readability issue. Clean code is good code.


Given that the codebase use echo for html templates, I doubt it have a comprehensive test suite. I am not knowledgable enough about a raw PHP site to write one anyway.

Ooh, what about a "trending" measurement of some kind? I know that on my site, for example, I expect a certain # of hits per day as a baseline, but every once in a while something makes it to the front page of Hacker News or something and I'll get 10k+ hits in 24 hours - would be nice if advertisers could jump in to take advantage of those kinds of spikes but with the metrics that are in place there's no way for them to know about a 24hr spike until it's over. Realtime analytics is probably asking for a bit much, but maybe hourly stat updates instead of daily?

Everything is slow slow slow because BioMike choose to write from scratch and use non-standard technology. There's no git repository or instruction on how to set up development environment. Even the most active owner on Operation Fabulous don't interface with me everyday.

I'll figure out it gradually, but it will takes some time. When I do finish figuring out stuff out, while upgrading, I may be able to work on your request, or not. It all depends on what's the most urgent and important issue.

Ouch :(

Well keep on plugging, I'm sure you'll do something good with it.

Honestly if it really is as poorly written as you're making it out to be, it may be better on all counts to just roll a clone from scratch...

I will be rolling like nobody's business when it comes to developing a clone from scratch.

However, the caveat is that I am no security ninja and the new version will be unproven. I did figured out how to make payment works without requiring interaction with a hot wallet at kibabase.com.(Since then, I abandoned it for free content business model) I might develop something similar at operationfabulous.

Good news, folk. I convinced the owner to develop a clone using supported technologies.

The only question is how long it will takes.

Why don t you start a github repository and let people contribute to improve things ?

Even if I want to, I don't think mc_lovin likes the idea.

(Competition versus benefit of contribution plus the thorny issue of how to compensate contributors)

In other words: You're trying to fix what ain't broken. lol

Give them ad credits like google does.

We ain't destroying opfab's current codebase just yet. We're just letting it sit while we develop a clone that's written in standard tech.

Yes, I absolutely recognize that this is the last choice that any developers would do in my shoe.

what will you use?

I really dig python for pretty much everything. Much easier to develop securely than with say php.

Ruby on Rails, coffeescript, haml, bootstrap, and all that yummy alphabets.

Ok, Mc_Lovin is not the greatest communicator there is on the forum. He seems to be awfully busy. I am still waiting for him to discuss payment and development issue.

I don't have much motivation to work on this project without until all these issues are discussed, especially payment.

I suspended development after learning of an already completed clone of operation fabulous. No words on when it will be activated and online.

Mc_lovin is not the best communicator as he seems to have too much going on in his personal and business life. Attempted PM communication several times and getting no response despite that mc_lovin is alive and well and talking on the forum.

I still haven't provide any value to Operation Fabulous yet, so OF is entitled to a small project sometime in the future, especially if mc_lovin is a better communicator and more available.