Something better than Operation Fabulous?

[phelix]

[evil rant]

the more advertising systems the better but what are the problems with of again? it works fine for me.

[Bro]

I have tested anonymousads and bitcoinadvertisers so far and anonymousads pays better for me, also bitcoinadvertisers is really easy to fraud with fake clicks as far as I understand how this works

[Bro]

I have tested anonymousads and bitcoinadvertisers so far and anonymousads pays better for me, also bitcoinadvertisers is really easy to fraud with fake clicks as far as I understand how this works

I tested a bit longuer and the revenue I get is about the same for the two websites, more or less 20%, I'd say, although I I havent reached 0.1btc on bitcoinadvertisers yet
 
About the fake clicks, I was referring to the PPC model in general, not to bitcoinadvertisers in particular

[BadBear]

For anyone taking Andrew Bitcoiner's rant seriously, you should take a look at this thread first before drawing your conclusions.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0

[rjk]

For anyone taking Andrew Bitcoiner's rant seriously, you should take a look at this thread first before drawing your conclusions.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0

Yes they should since that thread shows that there is nothing but serious FUD in that thread.  Why don't you pick on someone else?

As I mentioned elsewhere, I want to make sure publishers get the best partnering experience possible.  Also with regard to your comment on click fraud, I believe you are unfortunately formed that opinion by the trolls on the thread, there is no easy way to click fraud my service, we have various measure including limiting IP clicks and anti-proxy measures in place.  There is a lot of FUD and angst in this forum so read everyone's comments critically.

If you want to get rid of the trolls and FUD, you would actually start by addressing all points raised and not selectively ignoring the ones that don't suit your whims. Just because "that's the way google does it" doesn't mean fuck all for your tiny hole-in-the-wall business(es).

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

For anyone taking Andrew Bitcoiner's rant seriously, you should take a look at this thread first before drawing your conclusions.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0

Yes they should since that thread shows that there is nothing but serious FUD in that thread.  Why don't you pick on someone else?

As I mentioned elsewhere, I want to make sure publishers get the best partnering experience possible.  Also with regard to your comment on click fraud, I believe you are unfortunately formed that opinion by the trolls on the thread, there is no easy way to click fraud my service, we have various measure including limiting IP clicks and anti-proxy measures in place.  There is a lot of FUD and angst in this forum so read everyone's comments critically.

If you want to get rid of the trolls and FUD, you would actually start by addressing all points raised and not selectively ignoring the ones that don't suit your whims. Just because "that's the way google does it" doesn't mean fuck all for your tiny hole-in-the-wall business(es).

Thanks for your opinion but I am wondering why does this concern you?

[rjk]

For anyone taking Andrew Bitcoiner's rant seriously, you should take a look at this thread first before drawing your conclusions.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0

Yes they should since that thread shows that there is nothing but serious FUD in that thread.  Why don't you pick on someone else?

As I mentioned elsewhere, I want to make sure publishers get the best partnering experience possible.  Also with regard to your comment on click fraud, I believe you are unfortunately formed that opinion by the trolls on the thread, there is no easy way to click fraud my service, we have various measure including limiting IP clicks and anti-proxy measures in place.  There is a lot of FUD and angst in this forum so read everyone's comments critically.

If you want to get rid of the trolls and FUD, you would actually start by addressing all points raised and not selectively ignoring the ones that don't suit your whims. Just because "that's the way google does it" doesn't mean fuck all for your tiny hole-in-the-wall business(es).

How does that concern you?

It concerns your whole business, or soon-to-be-lack thereof, because of an impending scammer investigation.

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

It concerns your whole business, or soon-to-be-lack thereof, because of an impending scammer investigation.

You didn't answer my question, how or why do allegations about me concern you personally?

[rjk]

It concerns your whole business, or soon-to-be-lack thereof, because of an impending scammer investigation.

You didn't answer my question, how or why do allegations about me concern you personally?

They prevent me from even considering your platform as a way to promote anything.

[Andrew Bitcoiner]

It concerns your whole business, or soon-to-be-lack thereof, because of an impending scammer investigation.

You didn't answer my question, how or why do allegations about me concern you personally?

They prevent me from even considering your platform as a way to promote anything.

Well since you realize that advertising services have to take strong measures to protect advertisers deposits from being wasted, maybe you can make a recommendation as to what I should do to sites that generate extremely high CTR on multiple banners spread through their website and have telltale signs of click fraud (and lets say there is other telltale signs such as a log with iPad clicks every 20 minutes with a matching browser version over a 48 hour period)?

[kiba]

For the record I am one of the people whom (since last September if I recall) have been trying to buy OpFab.  

Since that was not going to happen back then or more recently, I started my own service which now has 87 publishers displaying ads greater then 200k times a day and 45 ads.  I have made periodic inquiries to the OpFab owner to see about purchasing the site or domain and all those offers have been rejected.  I would like to see the idea of OpFab become successful since I fell in love with it in 2011 but I see no indication that BiokMike is going to let go of this service in its present form and is wasting everybody's time.  The last blog update showed that BioMike reduced the publisher payout to .50btc which means nobody was getting prior to then and .50 is likely preventing all but the click fraudsters getting pay outs.

FYI, Operation Fabulous is already brought by someone else. Whether or not they will begin the effort of revamping the site is anybody's guess.

[rjk]

They prevent me from even considering your platform as a way to promote anything.

Well since you realize that advertising services have to take strong measures to protect advertisers deposits from being wasted, maybe you can make a recommendation as to what I should do to sites that generate extremely high CTR on multiple banners spread through their website and have telltale signs of click fraud (and lets say there is other telltale signs such as a log with iPad clicks every 20 minutes with a matching browser version over a 48 hour period)?

I wasn't referring to any specific anti-fraud measures at all, but to the CS perspective of how they may be handled.

But nevermind. I don't need to worry about your service and I'll keep quiet.

[kiba]

Is this announced anywhere?

No. BioMike told me when I was asking for more work.

[kiba]

Ok well if you do think of something let me know as I'm all ears for suggestions and areas of improvement.

Better handling of your customers. Don't be the google adsense of the bitcoin economy.

[Raoul Duke]

Ok well if you do think of something let me know as I'm all ears for suggestions and areas of improvement.

Better handling of your customers. Don't be the google adsense of the bitcoin economy.

You're not the first person to tell him those words...

[ribuck]

Yeah it is too bad I have to chose between scammers and advertisers.

If you have to make that choice manually, your business is not going to scale anyway.

Perhaps make some design changes so that it's not so attractive to the scammers.

[Stephen Gornick]

From edd:

Subject: New Owners!
Date: June 10, 2012 – 5:50 pm

As some of you may have heard, BioMike has handed over the reins of Operation Fabulous to myself (edd) and maplesyrupghost of bitcointrading.com. While we haven’t been intentionally secretive, we haven’t made an official announcement yet regarding how each of us will be involved in running the site either, and I’d like to rectify that today.

BioMike will continue on as a technical advisor and will maintain a stake in the business.

Maplesyrupghost and I will be responsible for the direction and actions of Operation Fabulous and may be reached via the Contact Page.

We all have some exciting ideas for the future of OpFab and its role in the Bitcoin Economy, so stay tuned for more announcements in the days and weeks ahead!

 - http://opfab.net/new-owners

The problem is, in trying to contact them, submitting on the Contact Page gives:

Failed to send your message. Please try later or contact the administrator by another method.

[edd]

From edd:

Subject: New Owners!
Date: June 10, 2012 – 5:50 pm

As some of you may have heard, BioMike has handed over the reins of Operation Fabulous to myself (edd) and maplesyrupghost of bitcointrading.com. While we haven’t been intentionally secretive, we haven’t made an official announcement yet regarding how each of us will be involved in running the site either, and I’d like to rectify that today.

BioMike will continue on as a technical advisor and will maintain a stake in the business.

Maplesyrupghost and I will be responsible for the direction and actions of Operation Fabulous and may be reached via the Contact Page.

We all have some exciting ideas for the future of OpFab and its role in the Bitcoin Economy, so stay tuned for more announcements in the days and weeks ahead!

 - http://opfab.net/new-owners

The problem is, in trying to contact them, submitting on the Contact Page gives:

Failed to send your message. Please try later or contact the administrator by another method.

Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads up!

[vual]

Interested in purchase, make public bids here?

I suggest you whack site up at flippa.com to maximize your profit, but i can assure you if i was to purchase i can continue with development.

[kiba]

New owners(edd and all) are too lazy.