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Hey , please don't mind my stupid questions , but let's make it as Discussion thread
I know that the creator of the cryptoo currency BTC is Satochi Nakamoto , but is it true that he is Japonaise ? and anyone here knows him ? I mean the staff .
Iam not sure but I heard he was the creator of this forum also , so ...  ::)

At least for now, they wish to remain silent.  :-X

I guess he made this forum yes , can't find the link anymore , but I read that somewhere

So they are a group of people ? @RodeoX

Pretty sure that nobody on here knows him personally (or at least they aren't aware that they know him). He was very careful to stay anonymous. He corresponded regularly to some of our hero members in the past, so you will find numerous people that interacted with him on here, but that appears to be the limit to any contact made with him. He did create this forum. He has not posted or even logged in as Satoshi for several years.

Yeah, RodeoX! You know something we don't know? Holding out on us? lol

That's what I consider most likely. But I don't know.

Like everyone else, I wish I did.  :'(

I think the point is that you said "they"

I actually agree

True , I found his profile before , he didn't connect for like 4 years now , from 2010  :o

I think we will eventually find out, but im sure it will be many many years. I believe Gavin was the person to speak to him. Satoshi basically handed the reigns over to him saying that he had other things to work on, or something to that effect...

I can almost guarantee you that he/they lurk(s) here, just not  under his name...

The last time he posted was when that other satoshi nakamoto from California was accussed of being the Satoshi, the real satoshi logged into one of his accounts and said just a couple of words, like "thats not me" or something short...

If you really want to know the truth about satoshi visit here...

http://www.reddit.com/r/satoshistories

and don't forget to  contribute..

That's for sure , but it's hard to know with 300k+ registered members , haha

wow , thank you for the precious informations guys

He/she could be from ancient South America.
They are possibly Mayanaise.

Interesting to think about Satoshi lurking this site. I can't imagine it's much fun most of the time, being as he/she/they probably isn't that interested in petty things such as the price, or the topics that come up again and again. Technical discussion or possibly even altcoins could provide some stimulation.

I don't think there is any reason will make him show up :p BTC is working just fine

He is CIA/KGB/MI6 8) 8)

It is not certain if Satoshi Nakamoto is a single person, or a fake name used for a whole team of people. Nobody admits to knowing who Satoshi Nakamoto is.


Probably not, but nobody knows for certain (or at least if anyone does know, they refuse to say so).


Probably not.  If they do, they refuse to say so.

From what I read(I am new as well)

It sounds like he is a group of people but no one really knows for sure.  I wish I had still had the article but they pointed out his comments often made it sound like he was from Europe sometimes and America the others. 

Anyway, I hope one day we actually get to know who/what they are and dive into his mind to see how he came up with this!

noobs stop speculating

here is some clarification
1. the bitcoin protocol was made from different elements, such as peer-to-peer concepts, encryption, decentralised database,block creation. these are all small little projects that can be researched way back into the mid 1990's from many sources of white papers. but the end result of the actual bitcoin protocol that brought all of these different concepts into one perfect and seamless design under the white paper, was done by a single guy under the pseudonym 'satoshi nakamoto'

2. this single pseudonym was a single person, not multiple people logging in under that same name.

3. although that single pseudonym was a single guy. he did have other people (using their own pseudonyms) help him brain storm and code before and after thewhite paper, yet it is his signature concept for putting all the pieces together. so yes people like hal finney, gavin andressen, etc helped him out but the single entity known only as satoshi nakamoto was the brain child of the main concept.

4. it was theymos who made this forum, and was one of the other people interested in helping out in the early days. theymos is not satoshi and satoshi is not theymos.

5. no one knows satoshis true DNA ancestry, or his current location. all we can determine is that by his literary style, he has had a british based education as oppose to a asian or american education.

I have my thoughts on the pseudonym being a cover for the US government, but no one is sure. It's a digital currency that's global and the most prominent digital currency. It's going to take out the fiat currencies and some companies only accept Bitcoin for payment. If Bitcoin eventually becomes the only currency in existence, then perhaps it's the "one world currency" the Illuminati are trying to create.

Some relate Satoshi with Andreas.

It would be too obvious for the US government to pick a Japanese name. Besides, 99% of the people in the US government do not have the skills to create something like bitcoin.
Also keep in mind that multiple people worked on Bitcoin  ;) It's a successful open source project, something that would be impossible in the closed source world.

What about the rest 1%?

Yes, mhm, not trollish one bit.

Satoshi is still around. Watching enough that when S. Dorian Nakamoto was accused of being Satoshi, he posted to an old and dormant coding account that He was not Dorian. We don't want to know who he is. He holds too much btc. Nothing good would come of that.

she will return

If i had to put BTC on it, i would say Satoshi is Hal Finny. God bless him ( fig of speech.. agnostic here)

he claimed to be japanese but his posting time in this forum looked to be from Usa timezone
who knows..

the dorian saga started on this forum and for days no bitcoin creator announcement. but it wasnt until it hit primetime news media, that the announcement post on the other forum came about.

if he was to be watching this forum, he would announce it here. but the theory is that he does not follow this forum and instead simply seen it on the TV and went back to the forum he specialises in and follows more often.


hal finney is hal finney satoshi is satoshi, two separate entities with 2 separate skill sets, 2 separate writing styles.

I disagree! all roads lead to Finny in my little research. But whatever, you are entitled to your opinion. We can never be sure until he comes out.

They likely don't get time off to work on sometimes as awesome as bitcoin. Probably have to work in a boring office software or something  :)
I mean, even Tim Berners Lee had to  ask special time off to create the World Wide Web, his employer didn't think it was so important.

It only takes/took one person to create something like bitcoin. AFAIK most altcoins are also "created" by one person (although most alts are more or less a knockoff of bitcoin in some/many ways).
Satoshi presented himself as only being one person, not a team of people. It is very plausible that he created bitcoin himself. I agree and acknowledge that many teams of people work on bitcoin today but this doesn't mean that a team of people had to create bitcoin.

I think most people are just speculating, S.N. is as secretive as it gets.

Is that true that Satoshi came on and said something like "that's not me" when there was that uproar about the guy in California?  Anyone have link?  Funny, that would mean he still "roams the forums."  I wonder why he doesn't participate more though then.

How do you know about this?  ???


Isn't bitcointalk created by sirius instead of theymos?  ???

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504715.0
More correctly speaking, satoshi's account on P2P foundation was logged in and a message "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." was made on Mar 7 2014.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

However, we cannot know for sure if the one logging in the account is satoshi himself.

He is my Brother but he told me not to tell you all... so hey keep it between  .. ok

Signed....

John Titor...

I guess we will just never know  ::)

I believe BTC was made by the western Elites as an attempt to replace the Dollar as the world reserve currency,

You might not know this but at around the same time BTC was created the Brics alliance was formed, Russia, China, Brazil, India, South Africa, these countries no longer trade petroleum for USD

So what does that mean??? well in the past any country that went against the USD would be attacked and the gov changed back to one selling Petroleum for USD, but they can't do that with the Brics alliance as it's too powerful.

in crypto terms the USD is already dead, as the western Elites are buying their own coins via Europe, the rest of the world even our allies are dumping the Dollar.

Clearly this news hasn't been broke to the free range slaves yet, but it's all in the open for you to research.
 ;D

   

I don't think Satoshi is a Japanese. He never used Japanese in his paper or his posts, and there is never a Japanese local section here on bitcointalk.
But who knows? Maybe he did that on purpose to make us think that way lol.

He is Japanese, why not believe the official story??

Saw a photo of him on reddit mining but doubt it if that was really him.  ::) :P

Hes probably my neighbor.

You guys need to stop the paranoia, Satoshi is a real japanese man, not NSA!  :-[

Creators i think  ;)


if you want to learn more:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Satoshi-Collected-Writings-Nakamoto-ebook/dp/B00M6KGJ2K/ref=sr_1_2/276-5812409-3308807?ie=UTF8&qid=1408881511&sr=8-2&keywords=book+of+satoshi

But Satoshi came up with the initial idea first?

The initial idea of bitcoin? Yes.

You may check http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

Satoshi was here in the forum ???

This is the one of the most never to be solved mystery of the internet in the history.Nobody knows even if he exist or just a made up character that only exists on peoples imaginations  ::)

Ok the Western Elite, who allways sought a way to manipulate the system, made a system that can't be manipulated, mmmmmmmmmkay, no logic......

There is a satoshi inside each of us (no homo)

Yup he was and he has a "Founder" tag on his account. :)
Here is his bitcointalk account profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3.

until now I do not know exactly who is satoshi nakamoto ? maybe he is a japanese people or other, he is a mysterius man, who founder of BTC
maybe someone in this forum can tell me who actually satoshi nakamoto. but most importantly we can now enjoy the benefits of bitcoin

What if Hal was Satoshi, and the ALS was the reason he stepped down? Maybe an inability to type and code quickly was the driving factor?

Use that opportunity then.  ;D

That would be so cool, if he was my neighbor lol.

That is what they tell us and seeing we could either agree or disagree,But that wouldn't really matter to people who him or which national he was rather than for sole discussion purpose,so why bother actually?

I don't really know, I guess some of the early early early adopters do know who he is or at least had some conversation with him back when it wasn't such a big mystery. Did he really set up this forum? I don't quite recall, but he was active here. I don't think anymore that he really is Japanese!

Why was 21 million picked as the number of bitcoins to be created?

All we know is that Master Satoshi is alive.  He walks among us; he laughs with us!   8)

Satoshi will be immortalized through bitcoin.  :)

HE is not from Japan, but from Europe most possibly from Germany or really close.

Really? I thought people didn't have a clue about his origins.

Well there are some theories and a lot of speculation going on! I guess a lot of people actually believe he's from the UK or England to be precise. This is an assumption based on the time he usually made contributions and on the way he talks.

I think im right but it is the number that closely satisfied block reward sums :)

Not sure about his action on other sites, but from his posting stat on bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=statPanel, it seems to me satoshi sleeps from 5AM UTC to 1PM UTC. IMO, he was most likely living in the US back then. :)

But then why did satoshi set the initial block reward at 50 btc and block halving at 210000 blocks (~4 years)?

There is a thread about the bitcoin magic numbers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263750.0), but there are not much discussion there. :(

Satoshi is an alien and it introduced us to Bitcoin. For now it has return to the planet it came from via UFO.

Satoshi is like the Dark Knight of cryptocurrencies: He will return when it's extrictly necessary.

Agree. Additionally they are in the ages of 33-38. Well, thats what I think.

Never heard of him...or the 500 others topics exactly like this.

7 x 3 = 21 mil

That is some really bad math.
You're nearly 21 million off.

He is the lost father of bitcoins, maybe he is dead, maybe he is posting in the forum with another account, nobody knows that.

You cant debate on the algorithm he made for the block reward. Just be happy bitcoin exists or none of this would happen, such as this forum alone.

He was online, interact with people. People from different parts of world have different habits. HE was always talking about euro, never of YEN or USD, or CYN or whatever, so his fiat was euro, he also used in some sentences, capital letters at ( well my English is not good) In Germany use that.

Where he lived is i think clear, but here leave 100 million people so no you cant really find him :P

This means you have a clue on his where about because i don't.

genius :P

Awesome!
tks!

whether the creator has billions of bitcoin?
or he is already rich of bitcoin?

whether the creator is free to make as many of his bitcoin?

There will only be about 21 million bitcoin in total, and so no one can have billions of bitcoin.

I read some posts here that estimated he has mined around 1 million bitcoin, but he has only touched 50 btc.

How do you know that tho?

For the 21 million part, block reward starts at 50 btc and will be halved (and be rounded down to the nearest satoshi) every 210000 blocks.

For the satoshi's wealth part, please take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548508.0;all

Weird how he don't want to show his self , he will simply be rich & famous .  :'(

Twenty One Million = TOM, Satoshi's real first name.. his full name,address etc all in there.

I will let you figure out rest of it..

He doesn't need to show himself to be rich. He can spend his bitcoin anytime assuming he still has his wallet.

Also, not everyone in the world want to get famous lol. :)

Assuming Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed a group of individuals I really suspect one of those would probably be none other than the genius Hal Finney (may he rest in peace).

Who was satoshi Nakamoto? well, actually no one knows who the genius mathematician. some say he is a nickname or a state organization. in his cover version satoshi Nakamoto is 37-year-old man who lives in Japan, but the name itself is quite interesting satoshi Nakamoto, when translated means "think clearly for a runway", but there is also considered a nickname coined from the acronym satoshi Nakamoto 4 popular technology company "Nakamici Motorola Samsung Toshiba ", might be right or wrong, who knows ...  :'(

He is hiding on the BTC mountains away from paparazzi.

Why does everyone think Satoshi is just 1 person?  I think it would make much more sense if he was multiple people, they would be harder to track, easier to develop, everything about it makes so much more sense if he was more than 1 person, which I believe he is a group of people.  Perhaps he was 7 people? 
Sam
Andy
Tom
Owen
Steve
Hank
Isaiah

Satoshi Nakamoto was great, but bitcoins dont need him/her just to improve... once the baby grew up parents can only watch their life anyways... so i hope him/her to stay in stealth mode...

you can read this http://www.zggfb.com/this-is-where-the-bitcoin-started.html  It is very helpful for new gusy!!

If he shows himself he will not be famous but poor. You cannot own thousands of BTC and simply walk the streets without anonymity.
Unless you are the owner of Mt Gx, Mark Karpales....  ::)



21 million is an interesting choice. 21 is not a traditional computational number (2,4,8,16,32).
The 21 million actually derive from a few educated guesses:
- 10 minutes between blocks
- 50 BTC per block
- 4 years between block reward halving

The 4 years were rounded down to 210.000 blocks.

Keep in mind that "a Bitcoin" doesn't exist in any real sense in the code. Satoshi exists:  .00000001 BTC.

i bet that guy is so happy inside, and fuking so many hoes.

or he could be just sipping some wine seeing everyones reaction as a social experiment lol.

Check the person of interest, season 3, episode 13 (4C);

This episode is related with bitcoin and satoshi :)  probably you already noticed it.. (yeah, i know it is some part of original story, but everything we know about him is a fairy tale, and it has to be for his favor)

of literature I have ever read satoshi stands for a combination of several leading computer companies in Japan, they make bitcoin to trade in the world cryptocurrency, when they first launched, bitcoin exchange rates are very low, in contrast to today, fortunately for those who have collected bitcoin from scratch, satoshi itself did not exist as a person  ;D

Maybe like Jordan Belfort - The Wolf of Wall Street?

Hes prob more richer then that guy, since he has multiple addresses not sure how much per.

I can only imagine mining from the start..

But also don't forget he hasn't touched his millions USD worth bitcoin yet. :)

True. "satoshi" may be a real name, may be a pseudonym for a person, a pseudonym for a group/organization or something else.
We may never know his/her/their identity, but we know he/she/they are genius and we can all enjoy this great technology thanks to "satoshi".

I dought that ... the name is too simple . I mean it can't be that simple (first letter of 7 names)
he is way more intelligent from that

I'm just thinking if more people involved in the "group", it should be more difficult to hide their identities for such a long time.

So I still guess it's more reasonable that Satoshi should be one person only.

Someone said me it's Satoshi who made this forum, but I am not sure. the thing that I am sure he is a rich man! 8)

Because he know the true value of bitcoins, he was a genius with advance mind. I bet he will only spend his bitcoins once the price reach $100,000.

It is right. Satoshi created bitcointalk, and his bitcointalk account has an user ID #3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3 :)

I respect a lot Satoshi Nakamoto, its an genius !!

What do we know for sure. Gavin probably knows who he is. So we ask him nicely. Snip snap easy peasy

we don't really care if this site its to him or not no ?? I don't search to know more about him i just know he gave us the way to get money ! easy for people and less for others but if you are smart you can do it...to be a little rich  8)

IIRC, a few persons like Gavin and Hal Finney did have a lot of discussions with satoshi over the net, but they don't know who satoshi is in real life (at least that is what they say).

I would say it is harder to hide 1 person, someone could easily dox 1 person in 1 location.  It is more probably hard to find a group of people at several locations.  Granted it would be easier for someone to slip up but I still stand it is multiple people!