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hallo bitcoiners :)

I want to ask, how do you multiply with 1BTC capital?
what would you do? invest? play in mining? or else :)
please share your opinion here :)

loans is most riskiest
mining is slightly less risky
trading on exchanges is slightly less risky

best bet is to find a product that will sell well, find a cheap manufacturer/distributor/supplier and buy it. then sell for a 20%-100% profit. keep the profit and then rebuy more stock. repeat as often as you can.

research drop shipping where you only pay when you make a sale, and the drop shipper delivers straight to customer. this means no stock hoarding, not having to deal with packaging and distribution. you simply send the drop shipper the funds and delivery address

I agree, mining is risky if you are wanting to multiply. If I wanted to multiply I would either invest or I would do loans with trustworthy people who I know I could trust to pay me back.

yes first I also want to do mine, but my friends do not merekomendasikanna as much risk, but if the tool may be more comfortable to wear, but with less capital 1 btc still seems

Don't get fancy, it's just money. So how would you multiply dollars or Euros?
You could buy something for 1BTC then sell it for more. (retailing)
You could loan it for interest. (usury)
You could buy an asset that may appreciate in value. (speculation)
You could buy a balloon maker and sell balloons. (capitol investing)

There is nothing special about using bitcoin as opposed to other currencies. Other than with bitcoin you might also see capitol gains by doing nothing.  

Bitcoin mining is very risky and you should only do it if you can accept that you might lose out.

Balloons are def the way to go

Check out my signature and invest into the bankroll.

it is also my intention to buy the s3, but many factors when I bought the device.
because I do not have my own house so I still think of electric neighbor

While providing loans what actually people do with the BTC you lend them?Isn't lending over a community without proper credit system be more risky than mining?

Invest in altcoins. Watch the market for a couple of months then take the plunge.

Yes! I once looked into the most profitable items and balloons were one of them. Only popcorn has a higher markup. The problem is finding a venue. A movie theater can sell you .20 cents of corn for $7.00, but that price wont work at a store. Same with balloons. If you own a zoo you can sell bags of air for $7.00. If you have to find a place to sell, you will find out that others have those venues for themselves.  

The best way to grow your Bitcoin portfolio is to work for a living and then set aside a % of your paycheck to scoop up Bitcoin with. This is the easiest and surest way for the average person to accumulate and maintain their coinage.

couldn't have said it better myself.  Also, buy as much as you can now while the price is low.

Worst advice on this thread.

Most people lose out investing in altcoin over the long term. Only take 1-2 scams to lose most of your bitcoin holding.

It works if you're willing to put in the research and learn the indicators which reveal likely scams. You don't need to invest in many projects to get a large return. Just be patient, learn the technology, understand the market, and make sure you understand the supply/emission schedule.

There are quite a few people making a living trading alts. There are also people who use it as a sort of casino. But it's certainly not impossible to make a profit.

whether the bank roll profitable?
I do not intend to invest in gambling, more investment into the halal :)

Investing in altcoins could be very risky, I tried and lost half of my coins in pump dumps.

satoshi dice  :P

I would better invest that money in stock market. Although risky but pays well if you know the market.

You can invest on the bank of some of the trusted Bitcoin casinos.

As said, the house always wins in the end.

1 BTC = $500 = not enough capital to safely multiply your wealth. Just hold onto it until it's worth (much) more, or some bigger capitalist fish will probably eat you for dinner.

If you only have 1 BTC to your name (and no other fiat wealth), you're poor. Sorry.  Your lot in life is wage-slavery, unless you're willing to make high profits by taking high risks (selling your body for sex or turning criminal).

I guess the capital large enough compared to 1 BTC labor costs during 2-3bulan.
stay you play smart brain, and underwent a positive thing instead of selling body

How about you invest 1 btc in a promising business rather than keeping it safe and secured in  your wallets? That will be a promising multiplier imo.

How do you multiply with 1BTC capital?
Trade alt coins "like a winner" == Go against the crowd (without excessive risk), and learn to actually buy low and sell for a profit.
^^Good trading isn't easy: Split your bankroll into "many little parts" and learn to mange the risk, while still making enough to justify the time spent.

Wait for the next bubble and try to sell as closer to the ATH as you can.

You would do it the same way that you would grow any other kind of money, be either it be US dollars (or any other kind of fiat). In order to grow your capital you would need to somehow invest your coin.

I would suggest the lending sub-forum and lend out your coin (be sure to have your loans be secured by collateral held by escrow). When the loans come due you should receive your coin back plus interest. If the borrower does not pay you back then you can sell the collateral and use that funds to repay yourself.

you try business lending borrowing btc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=65.0

the best thing to do right now is sell back and forth between altcoins or sell for usd on the higher side and then put in buy orders on the lower side. it is possible to make 2 to 3% every day doing this as that is the normal price difference, exchange fee is only .2% so its not bad to do a few trades.

Put your money somewhere and wait for it to grow, aka luck.

I would hang on to that 1 btc for dear life, hold long term and work to earn more.  In 3-5 years if bitcoin successes it could be worth tens of thousands of dollars.  

Depending on where you live and your level of education, it's not that hard to earn another $500, work and earn and buy another btc and double your holdings.  Really with an amount that small even if you put 0.2 into a high risk but promising alt coin, if you lose that's a 5th of your total gone, a huge loss in proportion.  With that relatively small amount it's easier to increase your holdings by earning more.  If you had 50x or 100x that amount I may advise differently.

too much risk lending and borrowing in the online world.
I do not dare it  :-\

You could invest in Lite coins at the right time because LTC is jumping from $3 to $6 then down to $4.8 and up to $5.5, If you don't do mistakes With It I think you could double with this.

You will be very happy with just 1 BTC in 10 years time.  However, if you must obtain more simply buy more with money you make outside of Bitcoin

I would avoid the idea of "investing" in bitcoin. It does not function as an investment vehicle and while the price does tend to grow over time, it also tends to lose 60% of it's value periodically. Alt coins are even more risky and I would guess that most lose money trying.
Remember that the real strength of bitcoin is utility. Try using it for purchases and you will better understand why it considered one of the most powerful ideas on the internet.

That's the most reasonable advice one could give.

Of course you could multiply your bitcoin. But not without substantial risk. That risk is far to high to take, if you can't compensate a potential loss easily. Too much greed often leads to ruin. Today it's still possible to buy a decent amount of bitcoin from fiat earnings.

ya.ya.yo!

you can try some small trading with bitcoin itself, because altcoin are too dangerous at the moment

I don't think this is the kind of advice the OP was looking for. I think the OP was trying to find a way to invest 1 BTC some way and after some amount of time turn it into 2 BTC due to investment returns. I personally think that investing in a gambling site's bankroll would probably be the safest way to do this, however you would need to be sure that you can trust the site's operator.

this is difficult...


I have tried mining, buying shares, reselling bitcoins, etc but nothing had given me a real benefit (if in the meantime, the bitcoin price's goes up, you'd probably lose because dividends in dollars keep the same, but in bitcoin is lower, so you will have less than your first bitcoin)


you could try trading in an exchange, but you have to read a lot about stock markets if you don't want to lose

so, u try trading in an exchange. u profit for that?
if yes, can share u strategy to trading btc. thanks.

Don't you listen to any of those baboons. If they could profit as they say they can then they wouldn't be here giving you advice they would just keep their secret to themselves and hoard all the coins.

well... i started in 2011 in mtgox....


now with some experience I have more control about my feelings and that is important


I read some stuff in google about japanese candles, and forex. Now I am using metatrader4 with BTC-E, this is a good tool and you can find a lot of indicators in google.

Basically you may wait a "crash" for sell... knowing more or less where the price would to stop falling, you can rebuy at this point and you will have more btc than when you started


but I repeat, if you want to do this professionally, you have to practice for months and read a lot of books.  


you must understand this graphics:

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd

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The first thing to do is find a good bitcoin gambling site. Put your BTC down, double or nothing. Now you'll have 2BTC. A lot of people just quit right then and there. That's a mistake. The real key is to then take that whole sum and double-down on it again! This is what separates the men from the boys. Now you'll have 4BTC and earned a 4x multiplier on your capital. High-Five! You can do it!

A friend of mine takes next another approach, but I really can't vouch for his screwy logic or deranged mentality. He says to:

Try to find places/things to spend it on. That helps the transactional use and acceptance of it by others—which in time, it will help the value grow for you and everyone else. But when you spend some, always replenish that amount with more BTC. That helps the liquidity pool grow, and keeps your balance up. If you can save a little and set it aside, go for it. That helps the price grow. But don't set anymore aside than you're willing to lose completely. (I know, kind of sucks.) And don't go into mining. That ship has sailed.

Told you he was wrong...

1BTC x 1 = 1BTC
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 8)

1) Find the shadiest bitcoin investment scheme presented by anonimous strangers which offers the most unbelievable returns. Crypto stocks might be the best area to search for these
2) Give your btc away to the choosen scheme
3) wait for striking it rich

I don't think taking a risk with something so volatile as bitcoin is a good advice.

THat's how https://www.havelockinvestments.com
https://btcjam.com

I'd say altcoin trading.

I've gotten shitted on by three different scamcoins, but overall still have 140% net profit.

like a boss  8)

buy VIAcoin, it's block chain 2.0
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-VIA
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bittrex/viabtc

you could send me one, ill facetime you, flip a coin, and if the coin makes me feel sad then you win and ill send you two back.

You can loan but that is risky if u invest that is 50-50% that u will get income.

But in this case u need to get careful about it cuz can loose bit time.

1BTC capital is a huge amount of money. I know what exactly i will do to multiply my wealth

Lending with collateral would likely generate positive returns, however it is not without risk. You first of all either need to have reputation/trust to be able to hold the collateral or would need to use (and pay an escrow to hold it for you - cutting into your returns). You would risk that the collateral would decrease in value, you would risk that the collateral get attacked (via a double spend which is much easier to do with most alts).

You would also have the issue of being able to deploy all of your capital. The demand for loans is not that great. The fact that you are essentially asking for cash to secure your loan makes demand even less.

1 BTC is like 550$...you can setup a small scale offline business with that :)

Or go for affiliate marketing..GL

How do you double $500, is the question really any different? Just go look into ways to make fiat doubled with an investment and there you go.

My advice
Get an idea!
Prepare a solid plan and then use your BTC to set up your business!
You can make x2 or maybe x10
Sky 's the limit :)

Invest your bitcoin in mining, is the best way to multiply x0. :P

Now seriously, the best way is to keep your bitcoin in a safe cold wallet. Do not invest in anything until you are really sure what are you doing. Don't invest into something just because someone told you.

There are lot choice, but i think start small business with 1 BTC you can get a lot money   :)
Ohter way are :
- Gambling (Must have smart & luck)
- Mining (Calculate ROI / break even before mine a coin)
- Open some bitcoin service (gambling service, anonymous service, other else)
- Join Ponzi (You must crazy if you join this)

Anyway start business is best way

1 BTC capital is nothing if you want to start high, unless you can wait for years and years for your business to grow...

Hire a webmaster and setup ad system for your site...Good earnings.

You are crazy if you join a Ponzi but if you are in the first slots maybe you can really multiply your savings.

I invest lot of money in mining, mostly the cloud miners

There goes my 1 BTC :)

Fountain drinks are also really good profit. I have a friend that owns a Chevron. He tells me the most profitable item at the station are fountain drinks. He pays about $0.14 for the syrup, CO2 and cup and sells it for $1.99. It would be difficult to make that portable like balloon sales though.

So i should use my BTC to fund a new bussines ? i would like to use BTC as Investement , like loaning to trusted people :)

I have a formula that has served me for many years now....

A) Buy stuff

B) Sell stuff for more than I paid for it

C) The bit in the middle is called profit

Where B-A = C

C is the bit you want.

The markup is even greater at places like a movie theater and entertainment venues. You do need to remember that is costs money to invest in the venue to get people to go to your store in the first place, so you cannot 100% say that all this difference is pure profit.

This is probably the best advice you can get. I encourage you to read it over carefully.

This would take up a lot of time and effort. Even though you are investing your own capital the time investment would eat up much of your returns. You will also likely not be able to lend a whole BTC to others as there is not that much demand for collateral loans.

Simple: do not sell this 1BTC for 10 years.

Multiplying with 1 BTC is a bit tough, I suggest doing fixed deposits or go for bonds.

Good luck OP

Invest in neo bee

I would invest in some HIYP but I know that the risk is really high, it's gambling.

bet all on card game  ;D

I said gambling but this is throwing your savings out from the window.

I think, you should take advises from people that have been in bitcoin for at least 2 years....

you are looking for experience and real results

Just imagine you have $600 (which is an unfortunately small amount to "multiply"). Transaction fees and other costs guarantee an investment of $600 will likely have a lower risk-adjusted profit than if you had more. I can't imagine BTCjam or Havelock return anything close to 8% after defaults.

hmmm 1 BTC i'm too confusing should be how because i never had BTC too much like that myabe after i had that BTC i will trading or buy some altcoins in exchange and get some profit from that

in BtcJam there are a lots of ponzis and doubtful projects, unfortunately it's scammer's heaven


Havelock on the other hand, have better projects but many of them pays revenues according sells of each company, but those sells are paid with dollars, so if the company sell 10.000usd in products, then your dividends in bitcoins are a part of this amount. If the price rises, the company income still are 10.000usd, but your dividends in btc will be lower


I would not invest in a company whose income are in usd if I expect multiply my bitcoins, but this could be a good opportunity if you have some USD  

This is the best answer.

Give something in exchange for more bitcoins, or invest them well.

Even havelock has mostly risky investments. Granted they carry less risk then the average BTCJam loan, but still a lot of risk by most people's standards.

I think the best way to invest 1 BTC would be via collateral loans. It will require a lot of sweat equity in terms of approving and managing your loans, but the returns are generally very high and the risk is pretty low.

try www.cryptcominer.com

This is not true. If you do not have a need for your money in the near future then you should try to somehow put it to use. You should try to somehow make it grow.

People, 4 pages of posts and not a single decent proposal excluding work for a living and buy BTC and buy BTC and hold.
Guess people are saving their best ideas and opportunities.

Do not depend on bitcoin or any altcoin. Live your life the same way as everyone do. Make this one a educated hobby and take time to learn these things. You can invest spare cash but DO NOT invest everything you have. You can gamble for fun and DO NOT gamble your life away.

And you also have the risk of Havelock itself scamming shareholders. We need a decentralized stock market in BTC.

Loans take too much time to manage.

Gamble or gamble (alt coin p&d guessing)

This thread should be renamed how to throw 1 btc capital out of the window... take care with such investments.

my knowledge and experience about bitcoin, faster trading profit, but you must menguasainnya when to buy and when to sell and not one of his later select the coin and the coin die is of no value

use calculator multiple function to multiply it

Buy or rent some miners and you will start earning easily.

Else setup a BTC <-> Paypal exchange shop.

If you don't mind about EV, you can easily multiply it by gambling. At Dicebitco.in for example :)

how is the btc to ltc doing ??

I'd just put the BTC somewhere safe (paper wallet) and wait for their value to appreciate! Mining may yield you a negative ROI (meaning you won't even get what you've invested), gambling is risky (PrimeDice is provably fair though, see signature!), and Bitcoin stocks are quite risky too! Don't invest what you can't afford to lose completely!

Interesting...not a single mention of numismatics...

You might find this to be a compelling read...take a look at the multiples some of these coins have gotten...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.0

  

after 6 pages we didn't find any good method for multiply our btc with low risk...  :'(

A decentralized stock exchange would likely have too high of trading fees (the equivalent of a TX fee) as a lot of resources would need to be in place to keep it secure (unless people are willing to trust that someone is going to actually deliver shares and/or payment for shares.

Loans do take a lot of time to manage, but they are very profitable. You could easily make 10% per week on the money deployed via loans.

You can just work to get them, produce something, or exchange something for bitcoins.

but this is not multiply, this is just buying news one... in fact is what I do because I didn't find any better method

it depends how much you want to multiply
you can play in gambling with low risk bets

And how do you pretend to multiply, unless you are able to "print" bitcoins? If your BTC balance grows is because another one's diminishes. And that happens when you are giving him something in exchange (or stealing him...).

Are you surprised that you cannot double your money without taking on very much risk?

Your expected return on an investment will always reflect the risk you are taking. Period.

If you invest in a business or if you invest in a loan then you hopefully would grow your BTC via earnings/interest. This is simply how capitalism works.

Wait for our platform to launch and function like a Bitcoin ATM. You will never loose money.

edit : atleast when compared to fiat.