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I'm selling one of my Casascius 10BTC Silver Round /w Gold BTC

It's in absolute mint condition. Never opened, original air-tight capsule. Immaculate shine and sheen. Flawless.

Starting bid and reserve is 22BTC.

https://www.miza.org/bitcoin/casascius-10btc-silver-round-with-gold-b.jpg (https://www.miza.org/bitcoin/casascius-10btc-silver-round-with-gold-b.jpg)

wow, u actually selling one? i thought u only buy them  :)

I would offer you 15BTC for one

It only sells if the price is right. I can live without one of these. Believe me, I got plenty.

I believe you, last time you posted a picture you had a hole mountain of them.

How many is plenty?

He has all of them  :D

I would offer 16BTC - just to help set a bottom to any bidding. IMO the right price could be up around 20-23 but its a weak market right now

17 BTC

Look at this joker sending me a pm using bitmarket username.


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Hi,

Thanks for your recent bid on my 10BTC Casascius coin -

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17 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813238.0

Your offer is a little lower than my reserve price but I am willing to accept it at this point as I need to free up some funds for a 100BTC bearers bar that has just come on the market Wink

Payment address :

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After payment please pm me the transaction I.D and your shipping details.  The coin will be shipped within 24hrs by express shipping with full insurance and tracking.

Kind regards,

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It was just a scammer attempt using the account (bitmarket.io.) with a trailing '.'

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=386566

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Are you willing to pay that amount for that?

Man this is one cool collectible BOL to seller. I would love to own one of these things.

Nice one but still too rich for my blood:) nevertheless great coin!

What's the minimum price for this nice Casacius Silver Round?

Thanks in advance!

When he says 20BTC he means it..I have been trying to snag that coin for a while now. I just am not willing to pay that much for it. If he will take 16BTC I would trade him though  :-*

It's a nice coin, but I think there are issues with physical crypto coins in general.  The only way I could possibly make $ off of this coin is if the price of Bitcoin were to decrease significantly, I sell it (at basically a loss), collect say my 25 BTC, then the price of Bitcoin increases beyond the rate at which I bought this coin.  On the flip side, if the price of Bitcoin increases immensely, then I've just lost out on the price increase of the 10 extra BTC I sent you, plus no one will buy it now for 20BTC because of the higher value of BTC.   That is probably why you can't sell it for 20BTC.

I think you would be quite surprised what coin collectors pay for very rare historic coins.

It could go either way. It's hard to see how it could maintain such a premium if BTC was in the multiple thousands, but these coins are an icon in its history and there are very few.

On the flipside, if BTC dwindles to irrelevance it'll still be a gargantuan footnote in history and there still aren't any more of these coins.

The Zimbabwean 100 trillion dollar note had a face value somewhere around 20c near the end. They go for $10-20 all day long because of their historical value.

I absolutely agree that Bitcoin will be successful, don't get me wrong, it's just a matter of perception and relation to Fiat value. 

I think USD does directly effect the premiums on these coins. The silver + gold singles easily go for 2-3 x face value when graded. It seems the higher the face value the less the premium on most coins (the 25's do not even fetch 30). This coin is special though, so it is hard to put an exact premium on it.

My offer still stands  :-*

I realy is a beautifull coin!  8)

these coins will be worth a fortune one day and this one is the most gorgeous.

I offer 16.5 or $4500

And the idiot scammer tries with another new account....

This is a bit depressing. Someone out there is trying to get things, and knowingly causing other people to lose things as a result. :(

Whoever the scammer is, this is for you (http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af148/majorjesc/you-suck-award1.gif).

Ok, I have to admit.  I did look at the photo.   You're way too nice.
I got something far better for the idiot scammer.

To his/her defense, bitcointalk makes it FAR too easy to scam people by allowing such nicks to exist (with special characters).  ` and ' and . shouldn't even be allowed as part of the username.  And, once it is obvious as it is, the scammer/squatter nick should simply be blocked from use.

So sad. someone makes an offer and the scammers spring in action. fortunately the people making offers are no idiots.

Agree 100%.

A lot of times they are banned. Just nuked the person in question. People who create accounts to scam by pretending to be another user are by extention PM spamming people, so even though moderators don't remove scams/scammers, oftentimes there is enough overlap that we can deal with them.

Sorry to interupt your sales thread, but report any other fake bitmarket.io accounts

To be honest, I/l and O/0 are way more of a problem. If you don't notice a ` at the end of someone's nick (true sign of a scammer, hey Michail? :D), there's no amount of rules gonna help you.

Probably a good idea to start pgp-signing all OPs in marketplace threads.

PGP will not help any more than posting a btc address does. The issue is sloppy buyers, and no matter how much you try and help it is still on them to pay attention.

Too true -- the root of the problem is personal responsibility.

That said, the more I can encourage the use of PGP, the better!

I agree it is a great way of being safe and secure!

Maybe bold red messages saying "check that I am the real *user*, if you are PM'd"

Plenty of threads with bold red "THIS IS THE ONLY PAYMENT ADDRESS" in the OP -- would be curious to know how many of those get targeted for scams.

I had a smoothie impersonator try to get me when I saw something was fishy. one he didn't have the proper signature, two he tried collecting money before the auction was over and three the address didn't match...
I find it funny that people try to scam, but also sad that there is such a large scam-account base.

I think this is the best/easiest way to stop scammers.
Any idiot paying another address than listed clearly in bright red and the first line of an OP deserves to be scammed.

The potential buyer must realize you have an auction simply by the fact he got to the first post of a thread.   So, ummm, can't say he didn't know the payment address didn't match, even if the nick, PM, yada yada don't match.

i recently got scammed in IRC. i asked if blazed could send me $150 USD via PP. and some fake blazed PMed me and fooled me. sent him $150 worth of btc and never received the cash.... felt like an idiot. then again i was in a rush and didn't pay attention. :) fortunately it was a small loss.

Oh, you paid for it.
That said, I wish my education only cost me $150.  You got lucky.

PS.  My $4500 offer is now at 17.64btc in value.  Soon, that dollar amount will be worth far more than the 20 you're asking.  Heh
PSS.  To find a list of 95% (made that number up) of bitcointalk scammers... Simply   click on members (at the top), then click on 'search for members',  put in  `  for the search.  You get a list of a couple hundred squatted nicks.   Why doesn't bitcointalk wipe them out or ban them?  meh

can't go lower than 20. already had multiple offers of 17btc. one day these puppies will be worth a fortune and be desired by many more. i can wait. i don't need the money at the moment. :)

I understand.

Not much longer and I will buy 20btc with the $4500 and strike a deal with you.  At this rate, it will only be a couple of days (if that).   :)

sounds like a deal! :D

The only way this will be worth a fortune is if Bitcoin is worth a fortune and therein lies the paradox!  :)

The paradox being that nobody will pay $200,000 for a privately-minted silver round with $100,000 of BTC on it?

Anyone holding 10s or 25s long-term in the hopes of making a fatter profit years down the road is either insane or has poor extrapolation skills.

If I were to go for a large denomination coin, I think I'd have to be thinking in fiat terms and put the BTC premium out of my mind. They're beautiful things to own but I can't see premiums holding, let alone increasing, if the value did rise significantly.

Anything 25 BTC or above already has a pretty small premium. I guess we'll see whether the desirability and rarity kicks in in a larger way or remains static or withers.

The 10s are a bit weird because they're pulling some of the biggest absolute-value premiums. Guys selling 25s could barely get 27, 5s don't ever sell for more than 10, but you can't find a ten for under 20. It's silly.

I mean, I know there aren't many 10s(~250 each of plated/plain), but a 10 BTC premium?  ???

yup. that's why i bought coins i know would be highly desired and are practical. :D

So is it sold or what?

not yet. i have more than one though. :)

Have any Casascius silvers graded MS-68? Wondering what grades you got after sending your stuff in?

Yes, there was a 0.1 MS68 not too long ago, looks like you even you made a comment on it  :D
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911883.0

I asked if he had any...he sent a bunch in for grading.

The coin listed SOLD.

That doesn't mean I'm out of the 10BTC silver /w gold B coins. Just the one in the photo sold with the prefix pictured. I will update the OP with another coin and continue this listing.

I should have sent that coin instead of the one I kept. Please stop rubbing salt on my wounds  :'(

Well who ever has it needs to sell it to me..So far there is 4 total Casascius Silvers with MS-68..

3 x Silver + Gold singles
1 x .1 silver

Are all of those singles gold-b ?

Yes that are all Silver + Golds.  I wish I also had an all silver MS68 too.

I think people that focus on the grades are a bit weird. Not like it really matters. Most of these coins other than the very early brass ones were never circulated and handled like gems. They are all in mint condition unless you handled them like a retard. Besides, people that buy these coins are all over the world.  ANACS is just one in the US that does it. What if someone in Germany had a German grader grade it. or someone in Sweden have it graded. It's just a mess. What matters is that you have the coin. Majority of them other than the early brass are in excellent or mint condition. Stop wasting your time with this graded bullshit.

Personally I would pay more for the 10BTC silver round /w gold B than the solid-silver one. Sure there are less of them but I think the coins with the gold B are much more attractive and desirable. I feel the majority would agree.

Grades are all about the strike quality of the coin. If you compare several of the same coin types some are nicer than others. The more a die is used etc.. Can directly effect the quality of the coin. Grades are important for people to know just how good their coin is versus another. Grading them also vacuum seals them in a slab which is the best long term storage you can do for a coin. ANACS is not the only company that grades them, but they are the best.

I agree the gold BTC on a single or 10 carries a higher premium.

Can you give me a link to a German or Swedish coin grader that would be willing to grade a Casascius coin?
As far as I know, there are no Swedish or Danish coin graders at all and German coin graders only grade historical German coins.
Right now is there only one serious player for Crypto coins, ANACS.

The grading bullshit make sense for coins that change hands a lot, since the quality of the coin is defined, both buyer and seller, know the quality and there is less chance of a dispute. Further I like the image service that ANACS offer (optional), where a high res pictures are stored in the data base. Graded coins are great for selling online across the world, in most cases is not even a picture needed in your listing.

I have seen a ungraded Casascius Silver 1 BTC, perfect condition which I was willing to pay 2.5 BTC for, I have also seen the same type coin with a nasty nick and a scratch on the hologram, which I was only willing to pay 1.8 BTC for, that is more than 30% price different.  

Grading bullshit is also good for coins like error coins, since these had no numismatic value to begin with, so they have been carried around in pockets and thrown around in the office while others have been kept nicely in a plastic capsule, obviously these have very different quality. I am sure that there are more than 30% different in the price between the best and the worse.

For a coin like the one you have here. I would not even consider grading it, I can totally follow you here, grading is bullshit for a 10 BTC Casascius.
The higher the numismatic value are the less sense does it make to grade the coin.

Unfortunately, the ownly European Grading Institute is in Paris, France.
Other than that, you'd have to ship your coins to the US.

Good luck.

Any idea who has the 3 gold and silver 68s ?

I now have the silver 0.1 68, but it's looking for a big brother 😊

\o/

nuffsaid :)

How many of these bad boys you holding back? Congrats on the sale by the way, been following this for months. I wasn't quite sure you'd get the full 20BTC but your patience got duly rewarded.

Was actually reluctant to let it go even for 20. I think it's worth more than that. I think I won't sell the next one for less than 22BTC. One day these gems will be highly desired.

I hope you're right.

It would mean mine is worth a lot more.
Oh wait.... I don't have one yet.   Shit.

We best be on our adventures to aquiring 22BTC for that coin...

Offering special services, 1BTC...

You win.  I can't beat that.

Well want to create a special service monopoly? That raises funds for both of us.

Then buy the coin and split it in half. Right down the middle. It'll be one of a kind and the rarest thus making each half worth 22BTC.

Very sound business strategy.


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Hold on to your coins Michail. Believe me they will be very valuable one day. Anyone can buy digital bitcoins, but these will only be in the hands of the people involved in the very early days. In the next 5 years, by 2020 these gems will be better than gold.  You know just as well as I do how revolutionary bitcoin is. These physicals are iconic and a slice of its history.

I mean no one would have thought that the first Apple I computers would sell for over $660k 30 years later. I feel BTC will move MUCH faster. Population is only going up, everyone's getting connected, and the Internet has much more growing to do. And folks are generally getting more tech savvy. This internet money is absolutely essential and necessary and more folks will value it as time goes by.

I bought these coins for a reason. I have lots of faith in them and know the value of owning a piece of history. Anyone with lots of fiat can always buy a bunch of BTC and hold them as a commodity and watch it appreciate. But the physicals are more than that... you can't just go out and buy them anymore. You can only acquire them from serious bitcoin enthusiast.

Just look at what Goat did. He bought every coin including multiple 1000BTC gold coins very early on. Bought the 1K BTC coins for $6k each. No one at that time did because they didn't believe in it... and look where things stand now. Lets see where things stand 5 years from now. :)

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@ezeminer stop spamming my thread

More like people did not even know about them, let alone bitcoin itself, back then.  I didn't.

 :D

Awesome Coin. was going to make an offer but sold. Congrate :)

I am in France (not that my french is any good) . Do you know where exactly and the name?

Honestly if it is not done via a known grading company I would not bother... You might as well make your own grades up and write them on slabs with a Sharpie.

Now come on Blazed, stop sitting on the fence and say what you really mean  :P

Fine...

If it is not ANACS grading them it is useless. ANACS is the golden standard used for these coins.

I share your sentiment. They have stolen the march on the other grading co.s for cryptos and have a good wider reputation for general coins

The ability to easily compare the coins grades now almost means they have become the de facto for cryptos

Only by having a coin graded by another grading company, and then using the ANACS cross grading option, can another grader be considered comparable, and an allowance factor be made - but thats an awful lot of hassle. I know you did it once Blazed ?  (remind me)

BUT the option of an alternate may be needed for those not wanting to send to the states for grading. I am thinking of grading with a UK grading co, and then sending to ANACS to see how they compare. Post pics of ungraded coin, slabbed and graded by grader 1, reslabbed and graded by grader 2 .... should allow some form of adjustment factor.

However, if folks dont want to buy coins graded by anyone else other than ANACS, then you may as well just slab them yourself to protect them, rather than use anyone else.

I can find it somewhere, but ICGS also grades physical crypto coins 1-2 grades higher per coin than ANACS. Basically use ANACS or just leave then in air tites.

Your right, these coins are going to be extremely valuable, there are just not so many around, and they are not being made any more.

i still have more of them

I have a 5 from 2012 its something in years to come might be worth something

bitmarket how much for one? :)

This is scam attempt, please be careful


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@OP, I will delete this message on your request, the mods have removed the scam attempt.

Nice try!

They have to try this way now because finally PM scams will not work. Some idiot will still get scammed though...sadly.

Wow, that really wasn't clear to me until I saw the trailing period on the name.  That is definitely a sneaky scam, thanks for making us aware of it.   :)

22 to your old friend BigBitz :(

OK 21 for you!@

Wow, a lot of money for a "bitcoin" man i wish i had one but too expensive :D

these 'a "bitcoin"'s are for the pros only. the upper echelon of enthusiasts. true bitcoiners.

what do you think about 17.5BTC ?

I offered him that many times...he showed me no love  :-\

That's a shame, would love to own this coin.  :-\

Agreed, but no way I'd pay over over 17.5.

It is something special but you can always comfort yourself with a silver/gold 1 btc coin. Not as rare but still less than 500 exist and one of the very last made.

If bitcoin did go to the stars it would be a lot more liquid if you did need to sell it.

I offer one for 42 XBT.

Not because I wanna be funny but because I honestly believe a 300%+ premium for this coin is not unreasonable at all really and because I'm not in a hurry to sell.


Joe

22BTC is the minimum :)

Obviously your ask will be filled first.

But maybe a little sooner when people who are undecisive about getting one now see the next ask price.

Joe

22BTC is still a really fair deal.

I can put out 18BTC Offer

If your ever willing to accept it you can pm me

noted, but the last one sold for 20+ so I can't settle for anything less.