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Firstly, I hope I'm in the proper section for posting this and that the mods/admins allow me/us a little latitude if I'm mistaken. This thread probably won't be up long (explained below), for I will lock it (unless advised otherwise), then it can/may be moved to another section. This paragraph may not be needed, but I simply wanted to make sure by expressing this concern(s). Thank you.

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Please visit this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64504.0) to get up to speed (only a few posts). Moreover, it's this post that this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64504.msg932889#msg932889) (the one you're currently reading) that this topic is in reference to.

I propose that Bitcoin 100 transfer 100 BTC to the overseers of kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/) ASAP, with the possibility of adding/sending more BTC if Bitcoin 100 happens to be the acting liaison after the initial donation is sent.

Although kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/) doesn't meet the full criteria that Bitcoin 100 has set, albeit not a stringent criteria, I feel that in this case we can make an exception. Anybody who has donated to Bitcoin 100 and feels that they would rather not have their bitcoins go to this cause can simply state that intent on this thread or PM me if they desire their intentions to remain private. No questions asked or judgments made. THAT IS A PROMISE!

Full Disclosure: I have not performed any due diligence on this organization, sans a WhoIS search, nor will I, for I believe it stems from a reliable source. Anybody else is more than welcome to take up the mantle if they feel its warranted, then report back here if any nefarious information is uncovered.


Furthermore, I'm willing to make up the difference and/or replace anybody's bitcoins opted out of this particular transfer. Perhaps, a user or two may come forward to help me offset this expenditure, but not necessarily required, for I don't foresee the needed sum coming up that short.

As seen in the title and what you may have read on kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/), time is of the essence, therefore I'm looking at about a 48 hour or so window to get this task accomplished. Please feel free to express any concerns, questions or suggestions.

Thank you.

~Bruno~

Despite having already donated to their address I authorize you to use my 1 BTC pledge to the Bitcoin100 for this donation, and will send it to you no later than tomorrow.

Vuce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8919) just sent me the following PM (not privacy sensitive, hence the posting):


One thing members of Bitcoin 100 may desire is that the six people that we're supporting someway, somehow spread the word of Bitcoin 100 in general, and Bitcoin in particular. Also, if there's any way that they could spend their bitcoins on any product or service currently available, but if not, due to the current time constraint, again simply spreading the word would suffice.

Just thought of something. There's this guy I know in Las Vegas that sells shirts with a Bitcoin logo on it. Is it safe to assume that these six individuals will be wearing clothes during their visit to Kenya? What if...wait for it...all six wore a Bitcoin logo tee at the same time for a photo shoot? The more images the better. The images could later be used by anybody promoting Bitcoin, including Bitcoin 100.

Any other suggestions?

~Bruno~

Yes! I have another. It just came to me that those six individuals may get bored on that long plane trip to Kenya. Perhaps some reading material given to them would comfort their journey. Moreover, when they get to their destination, they may still want to read some more during their rest time. Sure would be nice if there was some type of magazine related to Bitcoin that would fill this void. Imagine if there were, then further image a photo shoot of said magazine. Only if.

~Bruno~

As one of the Bitcoin 100, this has my support :)

I'm happy to contribute - but can you tell us more about this charity in English? I'm sure many people would be happy to support them.

Edit - I spotted the link - no need to explain again

Edit 2 should we use the bitcoin100 address or the address in the thread - happy to contribute either way.

I'm really surprised I can understand most of that website if I pretend I'm reading phonetically in Russian. Seems they plan to provide basic medicine, help improve sanitation such as drinking water, and provide financial assistance to those who are sick. Personally I am OK with this (glad I decided to read the forum today after ignoring it for so long).
As for other suggestions, isn't it blatantly obvious? Have them use a part of the donation to buy an Android phone/tablet (getting REALLY cheap now), some solar panels, and a subscription to Kenyan cell phone data provider for a year or two, set the phone up in a village, and thus give them permanent access to their own Bitcoin bank, where they can continue to receive donations directly, make purchases or run a business with the rest of the world, and as a bonus have access to the internet as a whole (Chrome on Android works GREAT!)
By the way, I am leaving for Vegas for a week this Saturday morning, so won't have easy access to Bitcoin stuffs. I'll have access to BTC100 funds, but it'll just be a PITA to use.

That's a good question! I suggest using the Bitcoin 100 address 1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac, posting your donation(s) on this thread, therefore we'll have a better sense of where the funds came from, coupled with knowing where they'll going.

Thank you so kindly, dancupid, for your implied support.

~Bruno~

I was going to PM you about this, but now I don't have to. Thanks for your suggestions, Rassah. We'll have Roger Ver as a backup if for some reasons any funds need to be transferred due to your absence. BTW, when are you returning home? And make time to meetup with a couple other Bitcoiners while in Vegas.

~Bruno~

I think I already sent 1 BTC there at some point, but here, have another 1.01010101 (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7363997/419e78543c3e29cd263607cbf1fe45a8863939def065c176238d341a0ea57d38)

Sent 5 (http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7364307/db02327cd421b4ba51262ae3f1c477b74e47a058f872cd5ecb096c339f973e51), divide it between charities as you see fit. You guys are awesome!

We've only begun! Please clarify the date of their departure. I thought I read July 1, but believe I'm now reading it as...


...on this page: http://www.kenija2012.net/stro%C5%A1ki-odprave.php

Also, I'll assume that Bitcoin 100 (linked (http://bitcoin100.org/)) would be mention on the following if/when this comes to fruition--(We were financially supported by:) (http://www.kenija2012.net/donatorji.php)

~Bruno~

The departure is in August but I don't know the exact date. I will get one of the members to the forum asap so he/she can elaborate on everything. July 1st was the date I set to provide them enough time to use the funds. This is obviously going to be a lot bigger than what I expected so I'm sure we could push that date a bit further.


Yes, I'll make sure bitcoin 100 will appear there and everywhere other will (presentations etc.).

Great! We'll still consider it time sensitive. As you've read, Rassah has a Coffee Table Conference to attend in Vegas, therefore may be in and out of pocket during his trek, thus maybe impeding any transfer of funds from Bitcoin 100. He'll probably check in on this forum periodically, making sure to see if his services are needed.

What do you think about the Bitcoin logo t-shirt(s) and Bitcoin Magazine photo shoot idea with Kenya as the backdrop?

~Bruno~

As I am not the one going to the expedition I am not really in a position to answer that. I sent an email to one of the members so she can answer everything. (btw, what do I have to do to get her whitelisted, just send a pm to a mod?)

I'm sure the mods/admin would have no problem whitelisting another HER to this forum. Might as well PM them now to insure it'll get done faster. And bear in mind that the main admin of this forum has vowed to only speak and write in French.  ;D

~Bruno~

Does anybody else have any other Bitcoin related props we can send to Kenya? We might as well get as much mileage as possible out of this endeavor.

~Bruno~

I'll preemptively approve this request. Just PM any online moderator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search;search=Global+Moderator;fields=group), Staff (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search;search=Staff;fields=group), or Administrator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search;search=Administrator;fields=group) once she makes an account and we'll whitelist her. If none of us are online, post in the Whitelist request thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0) with her username.

Im just curious, what spurred you to pick these guys?

(Forgive me if you've answered that already)

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Charlie

Good question! I have not addressed that, but will now. vuce PM'ed me via a suggestion offered up by psy in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64504.msg932624#msg932624

This was the first time I was made aware of this organization, though I may have read that thread when it first came out, but I don't recall, albeit it does seem familiar.

I hope that addresses your question and concern, Yankee.

~Bruno~

Cheers, will do that.

She said she will register tomorrow (it's getting late over here).

They can have my bitcoin only if they promise to preach the gospel of a resource based economy to all the children that they care for.

Sent 1BTC

because bitcoin, lol

Cool!

Ah, was not concern at all, was just curious if you know them locally or whatever then I could help in my own way as well.

Anything dear to fellow Bitcoiners is dear to me.

You dont need to ask, we trust your judgement and due diligence Bruno!

Im absolutely fine sending bitcoins for this purpose.

However, I have serious reservations about giving copies of bitcoin magazine if that is what you were alluding to. If bitcoin magazine wants to "sponsor" them by sending a few free copies, thats their business, and I would welcome them to do so, but I dont think its up to bitcoin100 to pay for it, thereby sponsoring a commercial enterprise.

Can we maybe put the word out, or get organized sending care packages to this? Not all aid has to be monetary!

Most certainly, but that would be a lot more of a hassle for those donating.

Just sent my Bitcoin100 pledge so you can use it for this when needed.
Transaction ID: 6490cf544d0d8e2cf739c9d2e87dab6c59a39d601f036ed3054fbe06e13afac0

Sorry for not wanting to read everything on the BTC100 project , but what is the status of these feature :

* Pledge to donate X bitcoins to Y organization when they agree to add Bitcoin donation option to their website.
Ex : donate 1.5btc to org1, 2btc to org2, 5btc to org3 , ect...
Then have this as a big publicly available table and organization would have an incentive to accept bitcoins.

* Having a mailing list setup so I can be noticed of new charities to donate to, (weekly / monthly)

I see no benefits to donate to the poors of this world, I am poor myself, and think our average bitcoiners arent wealthy enough to be annoyed with philanthropic request,
  I though the goal of BTC100 was to promote the use of bitcoin as a donation platform.

The only things I see for donating to this organization is :  It has been posted on bitcointalk forum AND it is a very good cause.

What's going against it :
* I do not understand a word on their webpage, other than the "Make a free website with Yola" ads.

* What about a note in English saying, "THIS WEBSITE IS WRITTEN IN *****" < language.

To sum up, this is such a small scale project, I don't see how hard it would be for them to accept bitcoin, (given the burden is usually at the administrative level)

There is a sum-up in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64504.0), as already stated in the OP. If you need any more information I would be happy to translate anything on the website to english.

It's in Slovenian language, I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.

Before I reply to the other posts on this thread, as well as the ones on the main Bitcoin 100 thread, and update the pledge list in the OP of the later, I feel it important to address Transisto's questions and concerns first.


I, too, couldn't read a single word of it, and my dad was from Lithuania. Fortunately, I was able to translate all the pages via Google translator on Chrome.

http://www.kenija2012.net/

As we can now see, along with further reading of their website (http://www.kenija2012.net/), at least four medical students from Slavonia, who probably don't come from a poor family, are trying to raise 20K+ Euros through donations offered up by other individuals from around the globe, most of which are probably less well off than them (i.e. you, et al.), so that they can holiday in Kenya. (six commas and one period used in this sentence to satisfy the Grammar Nazis) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82849.msg915434#msg915434)

But the above doesn't diminish the fact that I firmly believe this cause isn't not only a perfect fit for Bitcoin 100 to sponsor, but by doing so allows us to put another feather in our hat, so to speak, coupled with, I'm sure, we'll somehow gain mileage in bringing awareness to Bitcoin.


They've already added a Bitcoin address onto their website. The goal now is to send them another 100 BTC via Bitcoin 100, hence this thread. I'm allowing enough time to make sure that anybody who has donated to Bitcoin 100, but wishes not to support this endeavor, simply state their intentions on this thread or via a PM to me. If for some reason we're short of the 100 BTC goal, I will make up the difference (with possibly help from others), as I've stated before in this thread as well as in the OP of the main Bitcoin 100 thread.


That's exactly all I've seen also, but felt like it came from a good source--vuce--and backed by psy, among others (now). That's all the due diligence I've done in regards to this organization, with the exception being a WhoIS search as stated earlier in this thread.


I have an idea of what you're asking here, but at the moment Bitcoin 100 is not yet set up that way and, moreover, not sure if it will. It's quite possible that we may take this in a different direction if the current model continues to produce zilch.

It's so easy for the big non-profits to turn away $500 USD (approximately, at today's current exchange rate) when their budget consists of millions. I'm sure we could get a hell of lot more mileage from the smaller charitable organizations, especially ones that are in the news and ready to go viral.


I've had that in place months ago, and it's been at the top of the OP on main Bitcoin 100 thread for the same amount of time.


Transisto, you currently have .1010102 BTC in the current pool. Would you like to see it go toward this organization, or have it rollover to a different one of your liking? Feel free to PM me with your reply.

I hope I've addressed your questions and concerns to date. Please feel free to ask more of me, for I'll be more than happy to respond to them all.

Thank you.

~Bruno~

I'm getting a little tire, so please allow me to update this thread tomorrow.

~Bruno~

I'm currently taking a break from my detective duties to update this thread. This post will also serve as a bump to make sure more people see it, thus having an opportunity to opt out their donation(s) currently destined to go to kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/).

~Bruno~

Thank you, psy, for honoring your pledge and supporting kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/). The list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg627057#msg627057) has been updated.



Thank you also, BTCurious, for your contribution. I've updated the list as well reflecting this donation.


Thank you vuce, for bringing this cause to our attention, and also for supporting Bitcoin 100. The list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg627057#msg627057) in the OP of the main Bitcoin 100 thread has been updated, as well as including you on the list at bitcoin100.org (http://bitcoin100.org/about/partisans/).

I'm going to take the liberty and state that your 5 BTC donation will be going to kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net/) since it was your suggestion that got this ball a rollin', coupled with lessening the burden on myself if we're short of 100 BTC.

For clarification purposes, there is more than 100 BTC residing in the overall pool (http://blockchain.info/address/1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac), but a majority of those coins are meant to be spread out over several non-profits.


Thank you, julz, for your donation. The list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg627057#msg627057) has been updated.


Thank you, deego, for your donation, as well, in supporting this cause. The list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg627057#msg627057) has been updated.

With that, I believe I've finished all the house cleaning. I will post this post over at the main Bitcoin 100 thread as well.

~Bruno~

What's the update on having her joining this forum, vuce?

~Bruno~

To be clear, are you supporting this cause, LightRider? (PM'ed as well)

~Bruno~

Bumping this post, to make sure a unique opportunity isn't missed.

~Bruno~

This idea can work in conjunction with the post above.

~Bruno~

First off, thank you kindly for supporting this cause, P4man.

Sorry for any misunderstandings, for that was not my intent on having Bitcoin 100 pay for magazines. I simply tossed that idea out there as an aside for Matthew to hopefully read, informing him that an opportunity possibly exists to see Bitcoin Magazine in Kenya via a photo. At the time of the penning of said post, I envisioned such a photo making good copy for said magazine. I still do!

Image a featured column in Bitcoin Magazine showcasing photos of said magazine using various countries as a backdrop. The goal would be that within X time frame, Bitcoin Magazine will show proof that it's been seen/located in every country on the globe. Then again, I've had crazier ideas.

To show how serious I am about this, I'm willing to pay for the magazines out of my pocket, but only if line 85 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg627057#msg627057) (linked to a thread) is updated. Call it blackmail. Seriously, call it blackmail.

~Bruno~

Haven't heard from her yet, she said she would register yesterday, but she really is terribly busy (finishing her degree I assume). Will message her again.

And thank you again Bruno (and all the donators!) for doing all of this, I can't express how much all this supports means to me/us.

She may have already none it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59237

Yep, she said she was a bit taken aback by how vast this place is, so we'll go through it together tomorrow (today actually, it's 1 am over here) :)

I have been informed that there is no gospel associated with a resource based economy, so I guess they can have it in any case.

I just reported the fact that I honored my pledge of 5 more BTC in the official Bitcoin 100 thread but I also wanted to make it known here that I fully support my donation going toward this cause.

I've sent 1.004114btc to the bitcoin100 address (4,1,14 = dan)


http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7693057/f0622bbda77e2122a0f30c22599ff69730bc943c926b04e967c68120bb0bfae5

Just a quick update: we're meeting tomorrow evening and we'll go through this thread and answer questions that I couldn't have answered myself. If anyone has any other questions/concerns please post them here.

Likewise, if the team has any questions, make sure they post them as well. If we're given a heads up prior to the meeting, we can easily turn this thread into an online chat for that duration.

I still have some updating to do, edd, et al., but on my way out the door to see a man about a barn.

~Bruno~

Roger that, will let you all know!

Added some info in English (http://www.kenija2012.net/indexeng.php)

This is o.k. with me, "refilled" BTC100 wallet with my pledge.

Heads up, this will be at 7 pm server time. :)

What would that be in UTC?

That's 2 hours from now, so 6 pm, I guess. (didn't see there actually is no "server time", my mistake)

Got it! Time for a new thread.

~Bruno~

LIVE DISCUSSION ON THIS THREAD IN 2 HOURS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85622.0

the date of departure is 7/27. We dont need the funds much before that date as most of the funds will be used in kenya anyway.

I will close this thread til after the discussion over at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85622.0 has ended.

~Bruno~

Unlocked!

I have been made aware that the current team (the one our team is going to replace in august) in Kenya writes a blog, that might shine some extra light on what they are doing there.

Warning: this blog contains some very graphic images and is not for the faint-hearted! (http://kenija2012.blogspot.com/2012/05/dokler-elektrika-traja-evo-vam-blog.html)

Unfortunately this is in slovene so you'll have to use google translate again :|

(I tip my hat to them, I couldn't stomach any of this.)

Great blog, vuce. Thanks a lot.

~Bruno~

Thank you, neuronics, for your fine contribution to this cause. The list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0) has been updated with this transaction (below) as well as linking your name to your desired website there and on the Partisans page of bitcoin100.org (http://bitcoin100.org/about/partisans/).

Please forgive me for not doing this earlier.

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/7794293/94a89e209e5acf069b68413b69f950a85a4795a2a4542b5bbd7d74aa35fc8e64


More updates of threads to follow shortly, as well as over at the main Bitcoin 100 thread.

~Bruno~

Never mind, better later then never - thank you & rassah for all the work.

André

Hello, I made an anonymous donation a short while ago, it seems your website is now down... Im wondering what is happening with this project. :)

So the departure date is on the 7/27, and we decided 1 week prior to that (7/20) would be enough to make use of any donations, if bitcoin100 is still willing to chip in.

I have also completed my exams for this semester so I will be more responsive from now on if there are any further questions.

Bruno are you still with us? Haven't heard anything from you in a long tine...

In other news we have decided to sell off the entire balance of 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX over BitStamp exchange directly to their SEPA account (listed on their site) this friday (one week before the departure).

If Bruno and everyone else is up to this, I can transfer the Bitcoin over to this charity.
We do really need to step up with sending requests. Even to the places we have already done before.

We'll probably be doing this later today. I'm double checking all those who've most recently donated to this cause as well as over at the Bitcoin 100 thread, and need to re-check my PM's. I'll PM you, Rassah, when I done.

~Bruno~

There's been some micro donations to Bitcoin 100 that I'm not sure how to contribute them to, what cause, or maybe it won't matter. See http://blockchain.info/address/1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac

Pay no attention to the the latest withdraw, then re-deposit, for I'm sure it was only for a coffee table purchase, then returned for a full refund, because it clashed with Rassah's decor. Meow!

~Bruno~

Was just doing some sweeping

Give me a couple minutes. Got to check only a couple things. Will PM you shortly.

~Bruno~

I just PM'ed Rassah, authorizing him to transfer BTC from 1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX for http://www.kenija2012.net/ which the donation page is http://www.kenija2012.net/kako-donirati.php

~Bruno~

PS: I also gave Rassah my last name. Prior, only Matthew and Maged had it, but believe I authorized Maged to give it to theymos. A couple vendors who accept bitcoins may have it as well if they happened to check their processing books, but they would have no reason to ever disclose it. If it weren't for the felony charges of spousal abuse and possession of crack, I probably would have already disclosed my last name.

Thanks so much Bruno (and Rassah)!

Funds sent to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX
Honored pledges, combined with a few anonymous donations, came up to a total of 96.03331981BTC

As per Phinnaeus's request, I took extra coins out of the surplus he has donated already and added them to the overall donation to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX
In total, Bitcoin100 has donated exactly 100BTC to them.

I have also honored my next 1BTC pledge for the next charity (freshly mined, too)
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/12777194/35147cc3bb1482e99636e5c9db1c5bf285be06ad044a18ba3b99b5a95399b3c9

A big thank you to everyone! I will make sure Bitcoin 100 gets to their donators page asap.

..digging out this old thread.
It seems like www.kenija2012.net is down, by now?


Probably simply because of "Record expires on 18-Jan-2013"?

Not implying anything is fishy here, but I would like to see this project (and Bitcoin's involvement) not vanish into being completely forgotten..

Ente

Yes, if anyone has any contact info related to this project I'd appreciate it if you could PM me. I just wanted to follow up to gauge interest in future Africa work.

I don't know what their plan was with the domain, but since this is over now there is no real reason to keep it anymore. Some information can still be found on their facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/OdpravaKenija2012/info).


You can try contacting them at kenija.odprava@gmail.com. I'll let them know.

Also, there is something left on archive.org:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120120180202/http://www.kenija2012.net/
http://web.archive.org/web/20120502070945/http://www.kenija2012.net/

..from 20.01.2012 and 02.05.2012 respectively.

Ente