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We are very excited to announce the voting stage for our physical Bitcoin design contest - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804088.0.  

The winning designer will be the designer that collects the most votes before 10:30pm GMT on Tuesday 18th November 2014.  The prizes will be as follows;

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins.
2nd-5th Place: Will each receive 0.25 BTC.

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins.
2nd-5th Place: Will each receive 0.25 BTC.

Each Person is allowed to cast TWO votes – ONE vote for a gold coin and ONE vote for a silver coin
Please make clear if your vote is for a silver design or a gold design.  Only vote per message, meaning you will need to make two separate posts to vote for both a gold and silver design.


To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.



The winning designer confirms that;
1)   They agree to work with us after the voting is complete until the final coin design is produced, no matter the amount of time this takes.  
2)   That the design does not infringe on any copyright and is an original work created for the purpose of the completion
3)   They agree to sign a copyright release for the finished design over to us


We want to take the opportunity to thank everyone for their support.  We look forward to seeing your votes, reading your comments and creating the most exclusive physical Bitcoins ever created!


Without further ado please view the fantastic designs below and cast your vote – Thank you.


Gold Designs

Design One by Saigonsmokes
https://i.imgur.com/R0CdUuxl.jpg




Design Two by Sarahiko
https://i.imgur.com/ROo51MD.png




Design Three by iawgoM
https://i.imgur.com/SCbl4XY.png




Design Four by bonksnp2
https://i.imgur.com/3TT2HKi.png




Design Five by jcoin200
https://i.imgur.com/ICwyPZR.jpg




Design Six by LitcoinCollector
https://i.imgur.com/QjczRLt.jpg




Design Seven by Trivelius
http://s28.postimg.org/hivdu3ee5/goldcoin.png




Design Eight by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/tPw4WX2.png




Design Nine by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/H8je0AD.png




Design Ten by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/MDjB9dV.png




Design Eleven by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/M0NGmmt.png




Design Tweleve by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/Pf50djP.png




Design Thirteen by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/tDkp2PwCPXZ1.png




Design Fourteen by MrBAU
https://i.imgur.com/SJM7Xvy.png






Silver Designs

Design One by Sarahiko
https://i.imgur.com/pMR14gW.png




Design Two by Superhitech
https://i.imgur.com/tI1Xnyk.png




Design Three by iawgoM
https://i.imgur.com/MfnZCNJ.png




Design Four by Saigonsmokes
https://i.imgur.com/aIafHJyl.jpg




Design Five by bonksnp2
https://i.imgur.com/l5efQqM.png




Design Six by jcoin200
https://i.imgur.com/wavsLJp.jpg




Design Seven by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kpWG7-ZU369h.png




Design Eight by AT101ET
http://s4.postimg.org/cyw18i2t9/Untitled_1.png




Design Nine by LitcoinCollector
https://i.imgur.com/3lhw9jb.jpg




Design 10 by Trivelius
http://s9.postimg.org/buzh119e7/conceptsilver2compresion.png




Design 11 by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/ohUNxf1.png




Design 12 by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/WjXK0WT.png




Design Thirteen by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/DtynGw0.png




Design Fourteen by MrBAU
https://i.imgur.com/TG2Tmmh.png




Design 15 by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pU-yxTJtZowg.png




Design 16 by shogdite
http://i59.tinypic.com/2ym9cwn.png

I'll start it off I guess. :)

GOLD COIN VOTE:
Design One by Saigonsmokes

SILVER COIN VOTE:
Design 10 by Trivelius

Gold design: Design Three by iawgoM

Silver design: Design Three by iawgoM

Silver design: Design Three by iawgoM

Gold design: Number 14 by MrBau

It looks like the image of silver design 16 by shogdite is cut off. (This isn't a voting post.)

Gold design: Design Five by jcoin200

As someone who has bought many coins from Coinographic, its nice to see some different designs.

GOLD VOTE: Design Fourteen by MrBAU

Suggestion - Make the B look the same style as the tree on the right hand side, the 2 curves in the B look to straight - a bit more jagged would be nice

SILVER VOTE: Design Five by bonksnp2 although perhaps I would like to see a little more detail round the edges.

(it was close between you and Trivileus however i don't like coins that are not round - just my preference)

Gold design: 13 (thermost)

Silver design: 16 (shogdite)

Gold design three (iawgoM)

Gonna vote for design thirteen by thermost for the gold coin and design one by sarahiko for the silver.

Gold design LitecoinCollector
Silver design LitecoinCollector

Well I thought my design was the most unique and had a chance, but it seems this is more of a "who can get the most of their friends to come vote for their design" contest.

Anyway, my vote for the silver coin is: Design One by Sarahiko
I dont think I will vote for any of the gold coins yet, I dont really see any that look like something I would ever buy (besides mine  :P)

My one was a n00b attempt! It wasn't meant to be voted for!

Yep noticed that myself, seems to be a friends thing over here on BTCTalk.

can't believe I missed this competition :(

anyways my votes are:

gold design: thermost
silver design: AT101ET

GOLD Six by LitcoinCollector
SILVER Design 10 by Trivelius

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

Meh. There goes my only vote lol.  :D
On a serious note though, please vote for designs that you'll like to see made a reality and not for your friends!
Coinographic has made this competition possible and has put his trust in the community. How about we don't disappoint and vote fairly? :)

GL everyone!

I agree with what others said, The same thing happen last contest and seems it's a common practice to have friends or people you have work with and you have some relation or leverage to ask them for a vote. I could have done that myself the same like anyone other, but instead I preferred for a clean nice community choose.
It's clear if you look at the votes so far, I wanted to post on a later date to see how the voting will go, But some of you seem to have the same thinking like me.

I want to say that this might be my last competition, I don't like how things are going. Some of you might be happy with my decision.

It is sad to see, but MrBAU, you have talent and as such in sure all your votes are deserved. Hell, I even voted for you :).
It's a shame that you're thinking about this. You have talent and I don't see why you or Coinographic should lose out because of some other people's dishonesty.

Agree completely - I have bought each of the coins Coinigraphic has produced apart from the 5BTC coin - I want to continue to do so but wont buy coins which have clearly won using dishonest votes. I want to see people vote for the actual coin they would like to have made. Perhaps in future Coinographic and his team just choose the winning coin - after all its their capital on the line.

Yeah I didn't put in a design last time, but now I see what all the commotion was about. Associates and friends of designers are just going to vote them up regardless of design quality. Wish I hadn't spent so much time on my designs. Well good luck to everyone, I guess there is still plenty of time left.

lol


This is the drawback of having 'community' votes, just got to look at the quarkcoin logo fiasco (some designers had 100's of sockpuppets).

We thought it might be nice to share these photos with everyone.  They are photos of our 5 BTC piece struck in brass for sample purposes.  It’s looking very nice indeed.  We have requested a few changes to be made (enhancing of detail in various parts of the coin & changing the date to 2015).  We expect to have the final sample for approval within 2-3 weeks.  From that point on its all systems go!

Anyway here are the pictures, enjoy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/jhrji8.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/5xij3c.jpg

Nice, detail works out fine!

I like MrBAU's and iawgoM's designs best, especially their silver entries. I think MRBAU's silver entry would be a great choice for the gold coin.

I guess I'll put in my "official" vote:

Gold: #14 by MrBAU (but I also really like Silver #14 by MrBAU)
Silver: #3 by iawgoM

Two thoughts:
1) I think Coinographic should use the community votes as a guideline only, and make an executive decision on the final winners, even if they don't get the most votes.
2) My actual vote would be for silver to be iawgoM #3 (as voted), but the gold coin to use MrBAU's Silver #14 "Raptor" design, but I don't know if that's a valid vote.  :)

Great competition!

EDIT: For the "Raptor" design, I recommend turning the "," to a "." because the period is a more universal symbol for the decimal symbol.

The comma ( , ) it's actually 3 small claw marks that stand as a dot ( . )

Gold: six
Silver: eight

GOLD 14 Mr. BAU
SILVER 8 AT101ET

Gold 6 Litecoinconector
Silver 3 iawgoM

Silver design three (iawgoM)

Gold--->Design fourteen by MrBAU
Silver--->Design nine from litcoincollector

GOLD: Design six by LitcoinCollector

Silver, design 11

Many of us feel cheated because of the vote system friends vote for friends. if only Mr. Coinographic have a staff or people behind him that can help him decide which one of the many submitted design can win the first place, all of this commotion would not happen. but i guess this how it is, so good luck to everyone  ;D It sucks having no friends no vote for my design  ;D

Design 9 by rugratz Gold

I can be your friend maybe? I am so lonely in this cruel world :(

Gold: Design Six by LitcoinCollector
Siver: Design Nine by LitcoinCollector

Gold - Design Three by iawgoM
Silver - Design Nine by LitcoinCollector

I see I have no vote for the silver design yet others have people voting both designs the same time.
Am I or others who don't get a double vote bad designers and shouldn't do designs at all?

On another note, don't know what they said and I don't care, just want to point out the threads.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850381.msg9466615#msg9466615
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25215.msg9436877#msg9436877

There is something fishy going on.
I just got a PM from a user offering to sell me 32 votes for the competition.
Disgraceful.

Use Google translate before whining. You're still winning afaik...

Mr. iawgoM like I said I don't care what's in the post, the intention is what's bothering me.
This is not the first time you and some like you do competitions like this.

It's clear to all that even if you ask someone whom you have work before to go in this thread and vote for who he wants, that that vote will go to the one who worked with.
And the examples can go on.
I'm not whining like you imply it's just bothering me.

But I'm not in any position to do anything so I'm pointing out the obvious.

They tried this during the last competition and everyone who wasn't in the top 5 flipped out so voting was opened to all designs.

Original 5 Finalists Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=764623.0
Everyone is a Finalist Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765337.0

Additionally, Coinographic has already stated that pointing others to the contest is fine as long as voters are not enticed.  I haven't personally done this, mostly because enticement is a huge gray area.  Plus I'd rather lose honestly than win dishonestly, but if I understand correctly it is allowed.


We would all do well to remember that this is Coinographics contest and that they are contributing something to the community not many others can.  In fact, I don't know of any other Bit/Lite/Doge/etc coin producer who lets the community design AND decide on what coins get made.  If your design isn't getting votes, it's not necessarily because no-one likes it, it's because they like at least one other design a bit more.  Let the contest run its course and Coinographic decide what's fair and whats not.  he did for the last contest and I see no reason why he wouldn't for this one.

Yes it seems like at the end of the day this is how Coinographic wants the contest to go.  Hopefully they are happy with the design that wins as they will be the ones spending their time and money to produce it and sell it.  Also hopefully any problems with the contest set up doesn't leave a bad taste in anyones mouth about the company/its products...

Seems like they could open voting to the public, and then they could choose a design to create from the top 3 vote recipients.  I know I would want the final say if I was going to mint a coin.

Sorry Mr. BAU, but that just makes no sense, to say that you don't care what's in the post. I only informed people that there is voting, and specifically mentioned that I'm not asking people to vote for me, but any design they liked. Intention was to advertise the competition. I'd prefer to see 100s of people voting instead of just a few random persons who are passing by. That way we'd really get the best picture on what people like or don't like.

What, we should hide the effing voting thread in your opinion? Gimme a break. I've had enough of this crap in last contest and I'm tired of constantly defending myself. What do you all want? People to apologize to you every time someone gets a vote?

This actually concludes everything. I won't discuss this further with you or anyone else.

Sorry, maybe I've misinterpreted the message above. Seemed to me like you are wondering and complaining how come noone voted for your silver design. To be honest, I think you really deserved to win 5 BTC design, it was far better than any other, and had a meaning, message of some kind. You are obviously very talented designer, and your two entries for both silver and gold coins look wonderful...but...they just don't have that "something" that 5 BTC design had...I don't know. Still, you are in the lead with gold coin if I counted well. Are you upset because you maybe won't win both this time? Do you think you are the only one who should have right to win all contests now or something? 10-15 BTC valued coin you won earlier isn't enough? Still plenty of time left...don't panic.

And please, leave this thread for voting...

gold bonksnp2

I especially loved your 5 BTC gold design.  Would have loved to see that one again.

silver iawgoM

I just got this PM, I think this is starting to become a joke:

PolyCoin-Team
Jr. Member

« Sent to: Saigonsmokes on: November 11, 2014, 03:02:25 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote  ReplyReply  Remove this messageDelete 
Hi, are you interested in buying votes for the competition you have entered?
I can give you 32 votes in total - all active member accounts and higher.
PM me if interested.

I dont doubt what you say, but I can assure you, I'm voting for who I like best, and not being swayed by any member or thread.  Don't assume everybody voting is fraudulent.  The last 5 BTC gold coin voting was a complete mess, and its starting to feel the same way here all over again.

I thought about it, but I wanted to challenge myself so I went a little outside my comfort zone.

Thanks for the kind words and the vote!

You're welcome.  I think you do great designs, and I'd love to see your earlier 5 BTC gold design show up in production somewhere.  

Sorry I was not insinuating about you, i was supposed to press reply - not quote!

Gold Design : #14 by MrBAU

Silver Design: #3 by iawgoM

Silver coin:  Design Six by jcoin200

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.  No worries!

I also echo your sentiment.  I wish people would vote for the best designs, and not for who is buying the most votes.  Its doing a disservice to the community and to these contests.  I only care to see the best design win, in order to buy the nicest looking coin.  Coinographic does great work and gives the community the chance to have an input in them, and I feel like many people let greed get in the way.   :(

gold design: Seven by Trivelius
Silver Design: 10 by Trivelius

I just want to see how this will go on so I vote
Silver Design: 10 - Trivelius

One vote for gold design Seven by Trivelius

1 Vote for silver design#10 Trivelius

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

The sudden multiple votes for Trivelius probably means there's an arrangement in place.
You should've checked the votes first because your vote for Trivelius made him rise above you to second in the silver coin competition. The vote from GigaPixels doesn't count, so he had the same votes as you. If Mr. iawgoM is disqualified for any reason (like for his thread), you just gave away 2 BTC.


It does. Your account's last post before being awaken was on June 19th. Your vote doesn't count, just like the votes cast by maximuss, GigaPixels, losh11, Kimax, rancidgash and AnonBitCoiner. If the votes are deducted and the PrimeDice chatbox clique exposed, both competition might end up with the same winner.

Does that help?


I agree.  And are people using primdice to buy votes?  Clearly the repeated copy/paste votes are just friends voting for designs, but I dont know if there is any rule against that, it just is too bad for coinographic if they end up creating a sub-par coin design that not many people will actually buy

In my defense since it seems I'm also one who last voted him, I just voted to see how the minting of such type of coin would be done and how the design will look compared to the other.
My vote is simply a coincidence.


Mr. EyesWideOpen, I'm not really sure what you mean here, But currently I have some votes in the gold with no influence in the voting decision made for my design, And since I have no votes in the silver design I don't think you were mentioning me as same winner. And I do hope I win one design.

 I do not know what to write in my defense  ??? . Of all voted for me, i do not know anyone. You can look at my previous competitions and decide whether i use impure methods. I wish to vote for the Mr.BAU's gold design, but i figured that this situation will look like an agreement between me and him. In fact it is the only proposal with strong concept.

  PS: If I wanted to manipulate the vote, maybe I'd do distribution of votes in the whole period of  voting time.

I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

https://i.imgur.com/ldpKuYV.png

Really, this crap again? Please get off my back already. I guess people who voted didn't know they needed a special permission from you when and for who they should vote...geez...

Not people. Your friends. The same group that voted for you in the last competition, people like MICRO, Conqueror, dadaas, ChekaZ, etc.
They will vote for you even if you posted a picture of a dead cat.

After reading the thread of the previous competition, I don't understand why Coinographic still allowed you to participate in this one.
You farmed votes, you copied the design of others, you made backroom deals. Yet you pretend to be wronged like an innocent victim.

For this competition, you received 3 votes for your gold design - all from your friends.
You received 7 votes for your silver design - five from your friends, one from a brand new account which should rightfully be rejected. That leaves one vote, which might be your single legitimate vote of the competition.

Ok, here we go again. You did your homework, congrats. My friends? Nope, not really, I don't hang out with any of those people. As far as I can see, they haven't all blindly gave me their votes for gold and silver coin - they chose the ones they like. Is it so hard to believe that my designs aren't actually bad at all? I'm quite happy with them, really...especially with the silver one. Others are obviously too. But, as they say, beauty is in the eye of beholder. If other designs are so good, where are dozens of votes for them? Is the only way you can win only if you disqualify me again? And yes, I regret the fact that in last competition I was stupid enough to even consider that deal which elianite had offered. I paid my (huge) price for that. And why am I allowed to participate again? Maybe, just maybe my designs are worth considering... I'm not gonna discuss this any more. Please carry on and go make someone else miserable, if that's the only thing that makes you happy in your life.

Gold: Design Four by bonksnp2

I really love the silver coloured ring around the edge of the coin.
My suggestion would be to thicken the outer ring as to bring the coin down in scale slightly. Iawgom has the right balance.

Silver: Design Three by iawgoM

A little more bevel and emboss on the ring.
Would also be epic to see it follow a similar design to bonksnp2's where you will have silver in the middle but maybe a bronze finish on the outer ring to really make the centre of the coin "pop" so to speak.

Really so you have posted what once since June, excluding your vote and that was a couple of days ago? How dows that not apply to you - seeing as I have bought 12 physical coins from Coinographics, I want to ensure that genuine votes are given.

You don't "hang out with any of those people", but they vote for you within minutes of each other, in September's and this competition? Sure, that's a coincidence. Just like them being fellow Croats is a coincidence.

No one's getting "dozens of votes" in this low key competition. Your fake vote count is the highest.

If there's any justice, Coinographic should kick your cheating ass out of the competition along with Thermos and LitcoinCollector. There are other cheaters here, but none as blatant as you and the other two.

Stop throwing mud on me and trying to achieve a better placement for your favourite. None of my votes are fake. As far as I know, only one Croat voted for me. Hell, I even got a vote from the guy who did numerous video reviews of Coinographic coins - and that's a great recognition for my work. I never enticed anyone to vote for me, I simply advertised that there is a vote going on and told people to vote for whoever they like the most. We could also proclaim that every single vote from every single person here was by friends or fans of designer's work...let's disqualify them all...

I guess this whole voting was unnecessary, and we should have let you decide who will win? You'd like that...wouldn't you?

EOD.

iawgoM does ftc's graphic design. There's a reason why he gets votes aside from the fact that he draws peoples attention to these design comps.

As much as I would love to see a friend win, like everyone else, I simply vote for the coin I prefer.

So yeah, people like me wouldn't be here voting in the first place if people like iawgoM didn't make a submission and publicise the fact.

If there's such a huge issue, maybe there should be a lot more publicity for the comp..

Everyone reading this right now, go tell all your friends to come and vote. Unless you know you have a biased friend who is just gonna come here to make grief.

Thanks, but I think your vote doesn't count either as the voting was already closed when you posted it :)

Aww.. lol..

Well, my suggestions still stand regardless of the winner/s.

Thank you to everyone who voted and took part in our competition. We will be posting the results in the next few days.

Design Fourteen by MrBAU

Design Five by bonksnp2

Voting's over.
@miffman, @JLynn171, cheers.

https://i.imgur.com/Hs6QIFi.gif

To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We're sorry to say that at Coinographic we have been having a bit of a technological nightmare for the last couple of weeks. Our CEO has been having some family problems and personal health issues, keeping him out of the office for a long while.

Once returning, he's been further hit with bad luck as his computer went through a major fault and unfortunately not everything had been backed up.  We have been contacting various experts who are now trying to fix the issues, but because we need to wait for specialist parts, the fix won't be accomplished before Monday or possibly Tuesday of next week.

Our CEO would like to apologise for any inconvenience this has caused:

"I appreciate that many of you will be asking how this could have happened.  I can only say that the pressure of work, coupled with my ill health at such a crucial time, have led to the error of my not ensuring that everything was backed up in the event of a technological failure.  I've certainly learnt my lesson.  All the information that I need to fund coins or process orders is locked inside the damaged PC.  I can recover it, but have no option but to wait for the experts to fix the problem."

"I can't apologise enough to everyone.  As soon as I can get back online my small staff team and I will be working flat out to resolve all outstanding issues.  Clearly this is something that should not have happened and I will be taking steps to ensure that it won't happen again.  I appreciate how frustrated and upset you may be, but please bear with me while I get everything up and running again and all outstanding funding and orders processed."

Thank you.

No problem.
The important thing is he recovers medically soon.
The rest is important but health always comes first.
Thanks for letting us know!

Good luck :)

Mr. Coinographic could we have an update? Thanks.

There are many awaiting updates:

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21278.45

I prefer this one:

Design Nine by LitcoinCollector

Voting closed a while back. Coinographic has been having some issues and we are waiting for him to resume business. I guess we all have to be patient.

Yes competition is closed, but thanks anyway  :)

just to let you all know we are back up and running.  We will be announcing the winners tomorrow

Thank you all for your patience

Coinographic I've been messaging you for almost a week with no response.  Will you please get back to me?

Yes will be messaging everyone tomorrow regarding any outstanding issues.  Sorry for the delay

To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We would like to apologise for the delay in announcing the winners of the competition. This has been due to the numerous issues we have encountered this week, most notably our CEO's PC which unfortunately broke down.

Everything has now been resolved and Coinographic is back open for business, so without further ado we'd like to announce the winners!

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Litcoin Collector (wins the fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: thermost, MrBAU, iawgoM, Trivelius (will each receive 0.25 BTC)

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: iawgoM (wins the fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: Trivelius, LitcoinCollector, AT101ET (will each receive 0.25 BTC), joint 5th place: Sarahiko, jcoin200 (will each receive 0.125 BTC)

We will be in touch with all prize winners via PM next week.

Thank you.

Mr. Coinographic just wondering
Can you please detail how this is the decision, from what I counted on the gold coin I had more votes than LitcoinCollector, it's your decision.
But can you please explain.

maximuss,losh11 - don't follow the rules
Votes from the page 5 including, are pass the voting time.

Myself : AT101ET,Saigonsmokes,ChronosCrypto,Forceflow,erre,AnonBitCoiner
LitcoinCollector :findftp,Conqueror,PsychoticBoy,Kimax

I've did my own votecount, everyone can check it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SYF5m2rqYRfzcUvaJ8ubRx_3bDgLXnAWfO_i7OCPCE4/edit?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/YrLLIxE.png

How did you arrive at the winner? Did you just ignore your own rules and common sense along the way?
Votes from maximuss, GigaPixels, losh11, Kimax, rancidgash, AnonBitCoiner and bhantom all did not meet your own rules.
Other votes came within minutes of each other and voted exactly the same as they did in September's competition.
Both of your announced winners were clearly manipulating the votes and you seem to be condoning this behavior.

Maybe next time I will enter your competition with something my daughter drew and announced it on my mining pool and get 100+ votes from people who'd felt compelled to vote for me.

What a joke.

Thanks for putting on the competition Coinographic.

Congratulations to the winners.

Stop crying like a bitch MrBAU, what a fucking pussy. You shouldn't have even won the last competion in the first place becasuse you were sending out pms to the top 3 guys that all got disqualified. In your pms you were offering to sell votes. Of course you used one of your sockpuppet accounts. We checked your IP and the IP from that sockpuppet and guess what - they were the same. So actually you should have been disqualified.

Please talk nicely, I don't think I've talked to you disrespectful in the first place.
Secondly, Who is we that you checked the accounts? first come with prove of what are you talking and if it comes to that, when and if it comes to this allegation I'll disclose to Mr. Coinographic my ip/isp and location. You're just trying to throw bad words toward me.

This is not a complain I just asking a vote recount and provide details on how the voting count was done.
All of this people who voted legitimate for the design they like their votes are ignored.

When I provide prove that the vote isn't as it is, I'm called a, quote "fucking pussy". Despite what others think I still like being fair, all my votes were casted by people that I did not have influence over them at all.
I hope Mr. Coinographic does see that and he himself could check with an admin/moderator of the forum if there's any doubt, and recount the votes right to see who actually won.

And on top of that when I read comments like yours I feel a bit upset knowing the fact isn't true, This community is toxic, and would advise Mr. Coinographic to change the approach with all this voting and just let his team choose the design they like, This voting sends a bad vibe all around.
Like I said before and this is the last decision I'll not participate in any more competitions, what it's going on in this competition and the last is a disrespect towards me.

Quote PM from Mr. Coinographic "there will not be a recount.  Our decision is final", Don't expect fair counting of the votes next time.
A total disappointment.

To all Coinographic clients and customers:

As MrBAU has quoted, our decision is final and there will be no recount. We would like to address the voting and put things into perspective for you all.

One of our rules contained an error, where "any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted" should have in fact been "before" the 4th October 2014. We apologise for what we felt was an obvious typo; we only noticed it until after the competition and amended it accordingly in our votes. If we were not to amend this rule, inactive or sockpuppet accounts (provided they were created before the 4th November 2014) could have easily posted on other Bitcointalk forums before making their votes, which we would have then counted - unfairly - as valid. We hope this clears up any confusion.

Please find our votes spreadsheet here (http://www.coinographic.com/votes.pdf). Note that users such as maximuss, losh11 and RancidGash have valid votes under the correct rules.

This will be our final statement on this matter. Due to the feedback we've received and drama that has taken place throughout our contests, there will be no more design competitions on Bitcointalk in future.

We would like to thank you all for participating in this competition and we look forward to manufacturing the winning coins.

Thats too bad.  In theory a design contest is a good idea because it could really embody something the community wants to see in a physical bitcoin.  Unfortunately the way votes came in, no body wants to accept the outcome.  Hopefully this doesn't affect sales and the final product is a good quality coin.

And even though my designs did not win, I'll still say thanks to Coinographic for hosting the contest.  Good luck with sales!

Dear Coinographic, designers and physical (bit)coin enthusiasts,

Congratulations to iawgoM for 1st place Silver coin.
I am realy looking forward to work with Coinographic and complete the Gold coin design.
Regards,

LitcoinCollector


On another note: Competing in the Coinographic contests gave me the push to buy physical (bit)coins myself.
I think it is big a loss for designers on bitcointalk that Coinographic is not going to do contests anymore, for reasons we all understand.
Coinographic does a lot of good for btc and altcoins, they invest a lot of time, money, effort in promoting bitcoin/altcoin which benefits the whole crypto community.

The drama came because you managed the entire thing poorly, and worse, rewarded cheaters.
Your coins will forever be tarnished because of this. If there's anyone to blame, it's you.
I just hope all your customers will receive their pending LTC coins without any more computer problems.

Still no word. Any updates?

first one is nice in my option lol xD

Anyone got contacted? I haven't.

No I haven't yet either.

still waiting for mr. coinographic update, maybe his sorting out some problems before he can get back to us.

Dear Coinographic, could you give us an update please?

Thanks

Nothing yet. Hope there will be some feedback soon.

Got contacted via PM, they're alive :)

For gold one;
if design 7 has the asia, europe and australia on the backside; that's it!

For silver one;
design 6 is good.

Voting ended a few weeks ago, but thanks for the silver coin vote anyway!  I spent a lot of time on it!

Also got a PM.

Voting ended 1 month ago, anyone got anything besides a PM?

Nope

Unfortunately, no :(

The participants of the Litecoin competition which ended on the same date have already received their prizes.
Please message @coinographic on twitter, they must have forgotten.

I sent coinographic a PM yesterday, I will update if I get a response

This year..hopefully? :(

I used my prize towards buying a coin of theirs.
Paid for the order and now waiting for the coin to come back from hallmarking.

If we are lucky, at this point I am not expecting a payout, disappointed in their lack of professionalism.

Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks

Its been almost a week since I sent them a PM and no response, although I see they have been logged on everyday since.  Good luck but I doubt they are planning on paying out the bounties.

They will pay the bounties. I almost guarantee it.
They actually put a post on LTCtalk and on their website that they would be closed for christmas.

I was in a competition on LTCtalk, which ended on the same time, and they have paid all the bounties and given out the coins to all the winners.

If they won't pay at least let us know and get it over with. It is very unprofessional. Unfortunately for me I face once again with false promises.

I'm still waiting for my 5btc gold coin and this compensation :), let's just hope they were busy.

Got PM saying "this week".

Also got a PM.

Not.


End of week is here...

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o

I dont mind waiting, but its the false promises such as "This will be dealt with this week" that irritate me.

If they weren't prepared to complete the contest it should have been postponed, or still open.

Perhaps my posting in this thread will get Coinographic to fulfill their obligations of paying out their contest prizes in a timely manner.

They have been attempting to auction coins off and sell them in the goods section and auction section of this forum.

My suggestion is that they pay out all of their prize bounties they promised they would. This contest ended over a month and a half ago.

It would be in good faith that they pay out this contest in full before attempting to sell other coins on this forum.

They appear to have time to post auctions and threads about coin sales and offers but no time to finish this design contest payout.

I'm sure I will get flack from Coinographic about this, but in the interest of people who were promised something and are waiting patiently for their prize(s) I am posting.

Perhaps...

They may be auctioning off the coins in order to pay these bounties, but it seems if this contest was well thought out they would have been prepared to complete it in a reasonable time frame.

It also doesn't seem unreasonable for them to post an update with a date they actually can meet, and not just keep stringing people along.

Not well planned we can agree on. Making promises you can't keep can be frustrating to deal with.

This silence is ridiculous...why is Coinographic ignoring this thread? :(

I have been following this thread for a while and it makes me sad to see what has been happening here. I have left Coinographic negative feedback, which will be removed once they post an update about the current situation.

I've done the same. Hopefully this is resolved without further delays.

I'm still waiting for my coin to arrive.
Payment was sent on the 15th of December. I've received no contact to the emails I've sent asking for an update other than one email saying it will be sent out ASAP.

Any update from Mr. coinographic? has anyone have been paid? we are still waiting.

Still no response. I've sent a couple more messages but haven't heard back yet.

Seems they are logging into the forum (today):

Name:   Coinographic
Posts:   222
Activity:   196
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   June 16, 2014, 09:25:52 PM
Last Active:   January 11, 2015, 08:33:34 PM

I like gold design 3 by iawgoM and silver design 9 by litecoincollector   ;D
The designs are very interesting

Firstly we want to apologize for the delay in response here, we realize this is unacceptable.

The company is having cash flow problems at the moment.  We invested 10’s 1000’s into our litecoin collection and currently we have been unable to sell them (even at cost price).

We have full intentions to complete this contest and develop the bitcoins that were designed by the winning members of this competition but currently we are unable to complete this competition.

As soon as we sell some of our existing stock and generate some cash flow we will be in touch with the winning members of this competition and pay the prizes as promised and begin the development of the coins.

Whilst we understand this is not an ideal situation, it’s impossible for us to do anything else other than wait at this stage.

Thank you

May I suggest you find a way to cut costs, and offer the next coins as special orders?  Though not ideal for buyers, it means you don't have to hold inventory.   Or you could just have a few in inventory, then replenish as needed.

If you greatly lowered your golds, you might get some more orders.

Also consider a small deposit and the rest held in escrow, so people could feel comfortable now knowing your cash flow issues.  Otherwise you may have problems getting future preorders where people have to wait.

I also suggest more frequent updates to the community going forward.

Just a few suggestions if it helps.  I think your coins are beautiful and want to see your company continue making more.

We cant lower the price of the golds as believe it or not there is not much profit in them.  We are however giving away free litecoins with gold orders as per our offer thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911946.0

I can have sympathy there, I lost some too trying to deal with litecoins, I think a lot of people were fooled when they shot up to $45/$50.  Now I stay away from any and all "alt-coins".

With that said though, the contest should have been postponed or still open to voting until it was able to be completed.

Been asking for a few days over email for you to fund one of the 25 LTC coins, no response...

Sigh...I thought this might happen  :-X

Instead of getting the prize immediately after the results were published, with today's BTC price, it is worth 350 USD less... :(

I guess that is the next question should the contest only be liable for the bitcoin or the fiat equivalent. Most would argue that the BTC amount should stay the same as the price could have gone up just as much as it could have gone down.

Hope it wont take too long to get the btc to pay all the designers, please can the OP post a bit more frequently.

To the OP...are the 2B Silver "B" and 1B Silver "Ant" still being made?  If so, what's the expected completion date?  Many people have pre paid.

From your post, I understand the new coins from this contest haven't started production.

Coinographic auctioned #1 of his 1 BTC gold coin on Dec 26th, 2014.  He got 6 BTC that day.  More than enough to pay everyone out their BTC contest winnings.  Just saying.

Were in the same ship, There's no date when the 5BTC coin will be made/shipped and the BTC Coin funded, and at this rate the BTC plummets even more.

Another email sent replying to my email from Coinographic on Dec 26th saying my coin would be shipped ASAP.
Still not heard back from him yet.
The coin I chose is still listed on the site for sale.
Once again, this is extremely unprofessional.

Guys I think you should have some more leniency. I'm not saying what Coinographic did is right, but they seem like a reasonably legitimate company compared to others in the past. Yes, they need to prioritize the money for designers and they seem to have vastly overstretched themselves (there was no need to expand into anything except bitcoin until your stock was sold) but with the negative feedback/red mark on their profile you have effectively made it impossible for them to sell any more.

It's a chicken and egg scenario, yes the designers deserve to be paid, but that is never going to happen when nobody else buys from them. The coins are still getting delivered to buyers or did until they stopped getting ordered two days ago. They are also two fairly distinct issues to the business. As for Coinographic, you should pay what you owe, there was no need to jump on altcoins either & you should keep communication open.

As for the value of the prize, if the prize was offered in Bitcoin, that's how you take it. It has been extremely volatile and nobody knows where it is heading - that is the gamble you took. Forget about any of this "it should be paid in fiat equivalent". Coinographic, this should encourage you to pay while bitcoin is relatively cheap!

Fortify, you make a good point. I'm going to change my negative into a neutral, for now.

This is simply why I never opted for the preorder model. Even when the asic manufacturers were doing it I refused to preorder any of their products.

Taking people's money to fund your project and making them wait as customers when they are in fact investors is unprofessional.

If this contest could not be completed when they stated they should have said so long ago and not went silent. Come to find out now they can't pay it out to the design contest winners as the price of BTC continues to fall.

People should take a lesson again in the idea of preordering something that has not been completely developed and in-hand.

@AT101ET, did they ever get back to you on your request on the coins you ordered and paid for?

The other side of the argument is:

1. They obviously have been hiding the fact that they could not pay out the contest in a timely manner due to their claiming "this week" to certain users that it would be paid and then not paying and claiming they do not have the fund to pay the contest. This is a blatant lie and unacceptable.

2. You are right the contest is to be paid out in physical coins and BTC. The problem with this is that they stated the contest would end by a certain date and obviously most design entrants were expecting to be paid within a few days if a week of the end of the contest. Now almost 2 months later the price of bitcoin has halved. Pick which side of the coin you want but both sides have their point and I acknowledge them both.

3. My negative feedback is going to stay until it has been proven that they did make good on their design contest payouts. If anyone knows me on this forum it is one to call a spade a spade. Did coinographic intend to scam? I don't think so, but did they intend on lying? I can't see how I would otherwise be convinced they did not lie to entrants about payment. Maybe the better word is mislead...then they lied. Leaving the feedback on this forum is not making it impossible for them to sell. They have a website and the rest of the internet to make sales (including ebay).

4. Ultimately I originally thought coinographic was legitimate but after the continued instances of them being unfair and dishonest on the litecoin and bitcoin forums, I have to question their character. They totally botched their initial coin auction for their 25 LTC 2 oz silver coins on litecointalk.org. I won several of the coins and then had my bids invalidated by changing the rules of the auction after the auction ended.

Supposedly this design contest was not handled properly in its execution. Not to mention the blantant lie of claiming "this week" you will be paid to the design contest winners.

Their communication skills are horrible if not non-existent on several matters. Being unresponsive for weeks, allowing your computer to be not backed up with important customer information and claiming that personal issues disallowed you to be able to setup a proper backup is jaw dropping, now having a design contest finish and not paying out what was promised in a timely manner then lying when payment will happen, then coming out and saying "we have cash flow problems".

Perhaps I am being harsh but I hold coinographic to the same standard I hold myself to and that is being honest, upfront, and communicative to members of the community. If they can't integrate themselves into the community in those aspects efficiently, they should not be allowed to have a non negative trust rating as their actions ultimately determined their character.

More than 8 days later and issues posted after this post by your customers have supposedly not been addressed both here and in your auction thread where worldtreasurefinder is asking for answers on his coin he won/prepaid for.

In addition to this contest payout issue, there are people waiting for coins they ordered last month and some waiting for coins to be funded.

This deserves a bump.

Any news guys?
Maybe some payment in the Silver LTC coins?
Thanks

Yeah, it would be nice to hear something from Coinographic soon :(

"Hey, I am here - been away for a while due to ill health....I emailed Coinographic and expect we will hear from him in the next week (thats what he told me) - we will just wait and see and yes I am still waiting on coins (BTC) but every other coin I have had has been funded. "

above is from User post - saigoned on litecointalk January 22, 2015

Coinographic is alive and running. He should be posting an update on here pretty soon.

I almost forgot about this, thank you for everyone helping us, coinographic we need an update please.

well..great... :/

I wouldn't mind being paid in few unfunded pure silver coins (25LTC) though.

Or, he could just sell out those coins he has in stock as silver -> buy crypto -> pay out bounties...

That's perfect, this doesn't supposed to mean like he would not pay anything anymore?
Coinographic still has to give me 5BTC Coin + 5 BTC + 0.25BTC

I do not know.

The fair thing would be to pay you the bitcoin equivalent of what he owes you some way some how if they are not making the gold coin anymore.

Well, I PM-ed Coinographic about this couple of weeks ago.
Also said I, and I think other contestants also, would not mind being paid in Silver LTC coins.
No reaction...

I wanted to make a statement to update everyone on the situation with Coinographic…


Before going into an explanation I want to state clearly for the record that Coinographic was never set up as a scam.  We tried our best to start a company within the digital currency world because we believed in what we were doing and believed in Digital currency.  We worked hard to try and create a product that we believed would appeal to all.


An unfortunate chain of events has led us to a situation where we can no longer operate as a business.  Low volume sales, coupled with a large decline in the value of digital currency have left the business crippled.


Coinographic also lost its main investor at the end of November 2013.  We have tried hard to secure additional finance to keep the company alive but have failed in our attempts.


It is with great regret that I must announce we will be closing down the company.


We have no intention of leaving our customers that pre-ordered or have outstanding issues with orders out of pocket. 


Whilst we are unable to issue refunds in digital currency, we are able to issue refunds in stock from our Litecoin collection.


Over the coming days (4th February Latest) we will be implementing a form on our website that pre-ordering customers can fill out and choose the coins they would like to the value of their pre-order as a refund.


We will also have another form in place for anyone who has any missing orders, unfunded coins or any other issues.


We WILL deal with any order or issue filed with us via our web form within 48 hours.
 

It’s a very messy situation and we want to deal with things in the best way possible for all concerned.


I can’t apologise enough to everyone concerned and know first-hand what it feels like to invest hard earned digital currency in a product only for it never to appear. 


We will update this post as soon as the form is in place on our website


Thank you

Nice to hear from you Coinographic, and I'm very sorry for all of your problems with this unpredictable business.

However, you are talking only about preorders, and no word about promised bounties?

Thanks for posting this.

To be clear you are saying that once the we form is up, 48 hrs from then all customer issues will be resolved.
?

Curious how you plan to repay people (including design contest winners) with your litecoin silver coins? The rate at which you value them may not appeal to your customers to be compensation. But I could be wrong.

If I was expecting a 2 oz gold coin loaded with 5 BTC I wouldn't settle for say several of your litecoin silver coins.

Perhaps people who are owed can chime in on this as the layout conversion rate of the debt owed to each customer vs what you will give them in terms of your silver coins is not known yet.

So will they not be manafactured ?

Reposting this from ltctalk.

A user had purchased coins, told they were funded, then now it appears they are not funded since Nov 2014.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=24490.0


Someone should make a thread on this forum and btctalk where people can compile a list of orders, unfunded coins, and unpaid bounties so that way everyone is on the same page.

I guess the next question is how honest were they up until now...



@Coinographic, were you lying when you posted this?

If they are supposed to be in production then they should be paid for right? Production should be paid for if they were expected to be done at end of Jan early Feb.

Were you lying about this as well?

To be clear this was concerning a user who had posted and spoken to me about their coins not being delivered/funded.

I've always welcomed competition as it is healthy for the market. But when people do shady things I have no hesitation on calling it out.

The public was led to believe that Coinographic had already put the bitcoin designs into production long ago (since early November I believe).

If they actually did put them into production why can't they still operate their business?

If they are having people prepay before the coins get made then they should still be able to take a cut (for profit) and send the rest to the mint to have the coins made.

Not sure where they "can't" continue operation.

This should be explained by them as it is now sounding more like a ponzi type situation where they took in customer orders and robbed peter to pay paul and now they are short on funds to fill existing orders and fund coins or pay design contest bounties.

Supposedly their investor pulled out. But if the investor did that in the end of november they should have already started the 2 BTC 2 oz gold coin production so the investor would not be able to pull out completely as they have funds tied up in the company.

The way this is all transpiring is starting create more questions than it answers.

Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.

Yes, I checked i too.

Coinographic please change this on your website.

No it's not a good thing.  Although they may say they "intend" to use these sales of existing stock to fill other orders/repay prepaid orders, it doesn't look like they are being 100% open.  If they knew their main investor pulled out months ago and it truly put the companies future at stake, operations should have been halted immediately and people should have been notified that presales may not be able to be completed or hold all preorder btc in escrow.

It also seems like its now been a game to see how long this can go, I'm starting to think the excuses (CEO was "ill", computer data loss, etc) were just made up to buy them time.

I won't go so far as to call them a scam company, as their designs that were minted looked nice, but clearly the past few months have shown they cannot handle the operations of the business.

Hi Mark,

Martin here. I assume this goes for me as well. I hate to call you out in public like this in these sad times, but since you have been ignoring my mails for many weeks now you leave me with no choice.

So please PM or mail me ASAP.

Thanks.

That is a very very bad sign. I will have to update my trust rating based on this new information. Man, it sucks to see a company go down like this.

Link to this thread please?

Here you go (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942255.msg10322964#msg10322964).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942255.msg10322964#msg10322964

I agree. When they first started out I actually liked their approach and products...but it turned south for me from their first auction on Litecointalk.org where they handled themselves poorly.

From there it was all down hill (at least from my perspective).

The whole preorder model was also what turned me off.

Now this...

So this means that the bounty from previous contest  are not going to be paid.

Guess not.  :(

Well since he's shutting down shop, he's got a legal obligation to pay off his creditors.
I guess there's an order of 'hierarchy' in who gets paid...
We'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

For those (including myself) who ordered coins that he clearly had in stock and he was able to send out without any problems but didn't, we may have a legal case against how the operations were run.

Anyway, let's just see what happens.

Website still in the air, can still order coins.
Coinographic please change this.

Design 12 gold

 ;D ;D ;D

Noob in action!

Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.

The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....

I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.

That is right, it is between the two of you. But I suspect this is not the case for every customer wanting the negotiation to be private.

He has said a lot of things too...and Look at where we are now.  ::)

Yes he should get a break given he is in debt to his customers who sent him funds months ago for coins he has not shipped or not funded or not created.

Yes we should all give the guy a break even though he has been dishonest to his very customers and design contest winners and his on graphic designer. ::) ::) ::)

nowhere did he say that each negotiation would be for the same % of the value of coins that were sent when orders were placed as well for each customer.

Time will tell if he is honorable and will make his customers whole.

We already know that there is a good chance his design contest winner may not be paid at all.

I am certainly not condoning their lying in any way, shape or form but fuck ups - sometimes we don't act in the right way when under pressure and I hope they get through this by making everyone whole.

With edit at the bottom...

Waiting..... ::)

I hope you are not condoning their lying and "fuck ups".

In all seriousness Saigon I hope you get all of your coins you ordered or are refunded fully. That is what I consider most I important. Customers being made whole.

To be clear I do not believe in making dishonest decisions like lying to get by with life or in my business. So no I can't understand nor relate as doing the right thing should be a consistent thing and not a "pick-and-choose-when-I-want-to" thing.

1. You started a legitimate company.

2. Now you are not going to try to honor your customers orders, preorders, funding of coins, nor pay out your design contest winners just because.

EVEN THOUGH YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE COINS IN STOCK TO TRY TO MAKE AMENDS WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS.

#1 contradicts #2 and vice versa.

And you are going to shut down your website, email, phone numbers to cut off communication with them like a wussy who was able to take funds from your customers and not give a crap about making amends with them?

Wow just wow...

RUN COINOGRAPHIC RUN!

This is pathetic.  >:(

I guess I was right in my suspicions. They should not have been given the benefit of the doubt as see my post above this one.

I feel sorry for all of the customers who lost money with CON-o-graphic.

Yes they closed business and will not pay anyone anymore, and said whoever want just sue them. That's what I understand.
A waste of my time and indeed a scam and something that was not planed and with intent of ripping people off, If they were a legit company they would have taken in account the volatility of bitcoin. It's not the first time it dropped and might not be the last one, or tomorrow it could double in price, this is not a reason to blame, just a bad business. FYI check his litecointalk last message or his website to know what I'm talking about.

I already deleted all my work I made for them from all the contests. I would not suggest anyone using my images further, they are copyright material, and without my approval I will sue anybody using them.

Cheers

this is whats wrong with btc, no accountability whatsoever.  the more that people get screwed over, the less likely they are to continue using cryptocurrency in general, in my opinion.  This is a problem for most people, absolutely no consumer protection, and very few companies that are legitimately accountable or even competent to run a business.

That`s what risk is all about, we tend to invest on something we believe will have an impact in the long run.

LINK: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253317#msg253317


Reposting from Litecointalk.org

It is a pity that crypto is full with unfulfilled promises. I have not received a total of about 3.5 BTC in various competitions and services that I have met.  >:(

This has nothing to do with crypto, but with the people you deal with and your own stupidity. They don't use escrow? Avoid them like hell. People like this can be found everywhere, no matter where you are or what you do.

   Tell me, Mr. Professor, how to use an escrow in a competition like this? I've never lost money, but I lost time. I guess its the same

I don't think he had any intention on paying the designers, probably just click-bait to keep his threads propped up. Feel sorry for the people who have 'bought' coins from Coinographic.

That's easy. Let the creator of the competition put the reward in escrow. That way you can still get paid even if he runs. If the creator of a competition doesn't want to do that, well, stay away.

Here is one of the earlier posts I made concerning Coinographic where I made a strong suggestion that contest funds/prizes be put into escrow before the contest starts:

LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693176.msg7829616#msg7829616


People need to be more cautious with doing deals on this forum.

Here is another place where I suggested using escrow:

He couldn't do that, It stated that in competition, the reward was the minted coin + the value funded on hologram. Well they could escrow the full prize but we were in no position to demand, they were very jumpy, and even the competitions were not planned well.

The fact in the end that even us as designers got screwed not just people who bought and even those who already have the minted coins the no one will give even 2 penny's for the coin beside the funded on hologram with all the fuss around Coinographic.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253462#msg253462


Is that why you keep avoiding answering the question about funding amounts paid to you for coins purchased that you had in stock that you never shipped?

You are a sorry excuse for a human being by taking people's money, making countless promises, now running away like a coward and not paying a single customer back.

Utterly pathetic.

Is there not a way to combine forces and sue Coinographic, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if we stand a chance.
But this behaviour shouldn't be taken lightly.
He owes me 2,75 BTC, for the competition.

agree, there are tons of new way that scammer comes up with everyday now, it is best to always use escrow even if you are dealing with some reputable member or party, be safe rather than be sorry  ::) ::)

If your situation looked so dire at the end of November, why were you still trying to get preorders for not yet created coins?  Your post history shows you were taking orders on the site and here up through last month, and made no attempt to be forthright about the situation.  And if you couldn't make the coins from the last design contest, why hold another one?  Then go on saying "this will be delt with, give us some more time" etc.

Theres no way you didn't know you weren't going to be able to pay the contest bounty, or fill all the existing preorders.

You can make all the excuses you want, but that wont change the fact you acted very questionably while knowing things were going down the drain.

Well I'm in, He owes me a bit more than 20 BTC

He owes a heck of a lot not including the prizes and bounties he promised.
He's run off and it's going to be hard getting him to pay up. I suggest you log onto litecointalk where we're trying to build a case against him.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg263397#msg263397

UPDATE ON COINOGRAPHIC LEGAL PROCEEDINGS BY SAIGONED:

I feel sorry for all the members that lost their time due to this.
This is however, the reason I did not participate in the second contest.
(Mostly because it was a battle of votes, not talent)

Mind you though, I did receive the small prize from the first one.

MrBau, I am sorry you did not get your prize.
You really deserved it - which is why I voted for you on the first one.

The way he ran the competitions showed quite a few flaws in the operating of his business. I for one lost out on both the unpaid bounty from this competition as well as losing out on personal funds that were used to purchase his coins which were never delivered.