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Title: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 04, 2014, 02:43:04 PM
We are very excited to announce the voting stage for our physical Bitcoin design contest - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=804088.0.  

The winning designer will be the designer that collects the most votes before 10:30pm GMT on Tuesday 18th November 2014.  The prizes will be as follows;

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins.
2nd-5th Place: Will each receive 0.25 BTC.

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins.
2nd-5th Place: Will each receive 0.25 BTC.

Each Person is allowed to cast TWO votes – ONE vote for a gold coin and ONE vote for a silver coin
Please make clear if your vote is for a silver design or a gold design.  Only vote per message, meaning you will need to make two separate posts to vote for both a gold and silver design.


To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.



The winning designer confirms that;
1)   They agree to work with us after the voting is complete until the final coin design is produced, no matter the amount of time this takes.  
2)   That the design does not infringe on any copyright and is an original work created for the purpose of the completion
3)   They agree to sign a copyright release for the finished design over to us


We want to take the opportunity to thank everyone for their support.  We look forward to seeing your votes, reading your comments and creating the most exclusive physical Bitcoins ever created!


Without further ado please view the fantastic designs below and cast your vote – Thank you.


Gold Designs

Design One by Saigonsmokes
https://i.imgur.com/R0CdUuxl.jpg




Design Two by Sarahiko
https://i.imgur.com/ROo51MD.png




Design Three by iawgoM
https://i.imgur.com/SCbl4XY.png




Design Four by bonksnp2
https://i.imgur.com/3TT2HKi.png




Design Five by jcoin200
https://i.imgur.com/ICwyPZR.jpg




Design Six by LitcoinCollector
https://i.imgur.com/QjczRLt.jpg




Design Seven by Trivelius
http://s28.postimg.org/hivdu3ee5/goldcoin.png




Design Eight by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/tPw4WX2.png




Design Nine by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/H8je0AD.png




Design Ten by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/MDjB9dV.png




Design Eleven by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/M0NGmmt.png




Design Tweleve by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/Pf50djP.png




Design Thirteen by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/tDkp2PwCPXZ1.png




Design Fourteen by MrBAU
https://i.imgur.com/SJM7Xvy.png






Silver Designs

Design One by Sarahiko
https://i.imgur.com/pMR14gW.png




Design Two by Superhitech
https://i.imgur.com/tI1Xnyk.png




Design Three by iawgoM
https://i.imgur.com/MfnZCNJ.png




Design Four by Saigonsmokes
https://i.imgur.com/aIafHJyl.jpg




Design Five by bonksnp2
https://i.imgur.com/l5efQqM.png




Design Six by jcoin200
https://i.imgur.com/wavsLJp.jpg




Design Seven by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kpWG7-ZU369h.png




Design Eight by AT101ET
http://s4.postimg.org/cyw18i2t9/Untitled_1.png




Design Nine by LitcoinCollector

https://i.imgur.com/3lhw9jb.jpg




Design 10 by Trivelius
http://s9.postimg.org/buzh119e7/conceptsilver2compresion.png




Design 11 by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/ohUNxf1.png




Design 12 by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/WjXK0WT.png




Design Thirteen by rugrats
https://i.imgur.com/DtynGw0.png




Design Fourteen by MrBAU
https://i.imgur.com/TG2Tmmh.png




Design 15 by thermost
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pU-yxTJtZowg.png




Design 16 by shogdite
http://i59.tinypic.com/2ym9cwn.png


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bonksnp2 on November 04, 2014, 05:09:24 PM
I'll start it off I guess. :)

GOLD COIN VOTE:
Design One by Saigonsmokes


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bonksnp2 on November 04, 2014, 05:13:44 PM
SILVER COIN VOTE:
Design 10 by Trivelius


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: dadaas on November 04, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
Gold design: Design Three by iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: dadaas on November 04, 2014, 06:09:46 PM
Silver design: Design Three by iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MICRO on November 04, 2014, 06:14:31 PM
Silver design: Design Three by iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 04, 2014, 07:35:02 PM
Gold design: Number 14 by MrBau


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: ChronosCrypto on November 04, 2014, 07:44:45 PM
It looks like the image of silver design 16 by shogdite is cut off. (This isn't a voting post.)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MF Doom on November 04, 2014, 07:55:39 PM
Gold design: Design Five by jcoin200


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 05, 2014, 04:11:34 AM
As someone who has bought many coins from Coinographic, its nice to see some different designs.

GOLD VOTE: Design Fourteen by MrBAU

Suggestion - Make the B look the same style as the tree on the right hand side, the 2 curves in the B look to straight - a bit more jagged would be nice

SILVER VOTE: Design Five by bonksnp2 although perhaps I would like to see a little more detail round the edges.

(it was close between you and Trivileus however i don't like coins that are not round - just my preference)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: keyscore44 on November 05, 2014, 09:35:16 AM
Gold design: 13 (thermost)



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: keyscore44 on November 05, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
Silver design: 16 (shogdite)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: ChekaZ on November 05, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
Gold design three (iawgoM)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: newflesh on November 05, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Gonna vote for design thirteen by thermost for the gold coin and design one by sarahiko for the silver.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: findftp on November 05, 2014, 04:41:01 PM
Gold design LitecoinCollector
Silver design LitecoinCollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on November 06, 2014, 01:12:04 AM
Well I thought my design was the most unique and had a chance, but it seems this is more of a "who can get the most of their friends to come vote for their design" contest.

Anyway, my vote for the silver coin is: Design One by Sarahiko
I dont think I will vote for any of the gold coins yet, I dont really see any that look like something I would ever buy (besides mine  :P)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Superhitech on November 06, 2014, 02:22:35 AM
My one was a n00b attempt! It wasn't meant to be voted for!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 06, 2014, 03:42:09 AM
Well I thought my design was the most unique and had a chance, but it seems this is more of a "who can get the most of their friends to come vote for their design" contest.

Anyway, my vote for the silver coin is: Design One by Sarahiko
I dont think I will vote for any of the gold coins yet, I dont really see any that look like something I would ever buy (besides mine  :P)

Yep noticed that myself, seems to be a friends thing over here on BTCTalk.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: maximuss on November 06, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
can't believe I missed this competition :(

anyways my votes are:

gold design: thermost
silver design: AT101ET


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: GigaPixels on November 06, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
GOLD Six by LitcoinCollector
SILVER Design 10 by Trivelius



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 06, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
can't believe I missed this competition :(

anyways my votes are:

gold design: thermost
silver design: AT101ET

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 06, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
GOLD Six by LitcoinCollector
SILVER Design 10 by Trivelius



To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 06, 2014, 09:59:56 AM
can't believe I missed this competition :(

anyways my votes are:

gold design: thermost
silver design: AT101ET

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

Meh. There goes my only vote lol.  :D
On a serious note though, please vote for designs that you'll like to see made a reality and not for your friends!
Coinographic has made this competition possible and has put his trust in the community. How about we don't disappoint and vote fairly? :)

GL everyone!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 06, 2014, 10:17:13 AM
I agree with what others said, The same thing happen last contest and seems it's a common practice to have friends or people you have work with and you have some relation or leverage to ask them for a vote. I could have done that myself the same like anyone other, but instead I preferred for a clean nice community choose.
It's clear if you look at the votes so far, I wanted to post on a later date to see how the voting will go, But some of you seem to have the same thinking like me.

I want to say that this might be my last competition, I don't like how things are going. Some of you might be happy with my decision.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 06, 2014, 10:49:38 AM
I agree with what others said, The same thing happen last contest and seems it's a common practice to have friends or people you have work with and you have some relation or leverage to ask them for a vote. I could have done that myself the same like anyone other, but instead I preferred for a clean nice community choose.
It's clear if you look at the votes so far, I wanted to post on a later date to see how the voting will go, But some of you seem to have the same thinking like me.

I want to say that this might be my last competition, I don't like how things are going. Some of you might be happy with my decision.


It is sad to see, but MrBAU, you have talent and as such in sure all your votes are deserved. Hell, I even voted for you :).
It's a shame that you're thinking about this. You have talent and I don't see why you or Coinographic should lose out because of some other people's dishonesty.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 06, 2014, 10:55:09 AM
I agree with what others said, The same thing happen last contest and seems it's a common practice to have friends or people you have work with and you have some relation or leverage to ask them for a vote. I could have done that myself the same like anyone other, but instead I preferred for a clean nice community choose.
It's clear if you look at the votes so far, I wanted to post on a later date to see how the voting will go, But some of you seem to have the same thinking like me.

I want to say that this might be my last competition, I don't like how things are going. Some of you might be happy with my decision.


It is sad to see, but MrBAU, you have talent and as such in sure all your votes are deserved. Hell, I even voted for you :).
It's a shame that you're thinking about this. You have talent and I don't see why you or Coinographic should lose out because of some other people's dishonesty.

Agree completely - I have bought each of the coins Coinigraphic has produced apart from the 5BTC coin - I want to continue to do so but wont buy coins which have clearly won using dishonest votes. I want to see people vote for the actual coin they would like to have made. Perhaps in future Coinographic and his team just choose the winning coin - after all its their capital on the line.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on November 06, 2014, 11:54:54 AM
I agree with what others said, The same thing happen last contest and seems it's a common practice to have friends or people you have work with and you have some relation or leverage to ask them for a vote. I could have done that myself the same like anyone other, but instead I preferred for a clean nice community choose.
It's clear if you look at the votes so far, I wanted to post on a later date to see how the voting will go, But some of you seem to have the same thinking like me.

I want to say that this might be my last competition, I don't like how things are going. Some of you might be happy with my decision.


Yeah I didn't put in a design last time, but now I see what all the commotion was about. Associates and friends of designers are just going to vote them up regardless of design quality. Wish I hadn't spent so much time on my designs. Well good luck to everyone, I guess there is still plenty of time left.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Bitcoin-Police on November 06, 2014, 12:27:15 PM
Bitcoin-Police will be keeping an eye on this competition. I smell some scammy votes comming in.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: maximuss on November 06, 2014, 12:40:38 PM
Bitcoin-Police will be keeping an eye on this competition. I smell some scammy votes comming in.


lol


This is the drawback of having 'community' votes, just got to look at the quarkcoin logo fiasco (some designers had 100's of sockpuppets).



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 06, 2014, 01:25:57 PM
We thought it might be nice to share these photos with everyone.  They are photos of our 5 BTC piece struck in brass for sample purposes.  It’s looking very nice indeed.  We have requested a few changes to be made (enhancing of detail in various parts of the coin & changing the date to 2015).  We expect to have the final sample for approval within 2-3 weeks.  From that point on its all systems go!

Anyway here are the pictures, enjoy!

http://i58.tinypic.com/jhrji8.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/5xij3c.jpg


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on November 06, 2014, 03:20:39 PM
Nice, detail works out fine!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: ChronosCrypto on November 06, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
I like MrBAU's and iawgoM's designs best, especially their silver entries. I think MRBAU's silver entry would be a great choice for the gold coin.

I guess I'll put in my "official" vote:

Gold: #14 by MrBAU (but I also really like Silver #14 by MrBAU)
Silver: #3 by iawgoM

Two thoughts:
1) I think Coinographic should use the community votes as a guideline only, and make an executive decision on the final winners, even if they don't get the most votes.
2) My actual vote would be for silver to be iawgoM #3 (as voted), but the gold coin to use MrBAU's Silver #14 "Raptor" design, but I don't know if that's a valid vote.  :)

Great competition!

EDIT: For the "Raptor" design, I recommend turning the "," to a "." because the period is a more universal symbol for the decimal symbol.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 06, 2014, 05:23:58 PM
EDIT: For the "Raptor" design, I recommend turning the "," to a "." because the period is a more universal symbol for the decimal symbol.

The comma ( , ) it's actually 3 small claw marks that stand as a dot ( . )


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: losh11 on November 06, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Gold: six
Silver: eight


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Forceflow on November 06, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
GOLD 14 Mr. BAU
SILVER 8 AT101ET


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Conqueror on November 06, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
Gold 6 Litecoinconector
Silver 3 iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: ChekaZ on November 06, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
Silver design three (iawgoM)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: erre on November 06, 2014, 09:32:12 PM
Gold--->Design fourteen by MrBAU
Silver--->Design nine from litcoincollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: PsychoticBoy on November 07, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
GOLD: Design six by LitcoinCollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: miffman on November 07, 2014, 04:32:03 PM
Silver, design 11


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on November 08, 2014, 08:13:48 AM
Many of us feel cheated because of the vote system friends vote for friends. if only Mr. Coinographic have a staff or people behind him that can help him decide which one of the many submitted design can win the first place, all of this commotion would not happen. but i guess this how it is, so good luck to everyone  ;D It sucks having no friends no vote for my design  ;D


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: JLynn171 on November 08, 2014, 10:34:59 AM
Design 9 by rugratz Gold


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Conqueror on November 08, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
Many of us feel cheated because of the vote system friends vote for friends. if only Mr. Coinographic have a staff or people behind him that can help him decide which one of the many submitted design can win the first place, all of this commotion would not happen. but i guess this how it is, so good luck to everyone  ;D It sucks having no friends no vote for my design  ;D
I can be your friend maybe? I am so lonely in this cruel world :(


Title: Re: Physical Bitcoin Designs
Post by: Kimax on November 10, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Gold: Design Six by LitcoinCollector
Siver: Design Nine by LitcoinCollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Rollin.io on November 11, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
Gold - Design Three by iawgoM
Silver - Design Nine by LitcoinCollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 11, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
I see I have no vote for the silver design yet others have people voting both designs the same time.
Am I or others who don't get a double vote bad designers and shouldn't do designs at all?

On another note, don't know what they said and I don't care, just want to point out the threads.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850381.msg9466615#msg9466615
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25215.msg9436877#msg9436877


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 11, 2014, 03:45:26 PM
There is something fishy going on.
I just got a PM from a user offering to sell me 32 votes for the competition.
Disgraceful.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 11, 2014, 03:48:36 PM
I see I have no vote for the silver design yet others have people voting both designs the same time.
Am I or others who don't get a double vote bad designers and shouldn't do designs at all?

On another note, don't know what they said and I don't care, just want to point out the threads.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850381.msg9466615#msg9466615
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25215.msg9436877#msg9436877

Use Google translate before whining. You're still winning afaik...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 11, 2014, 04:07:12 PM
I see I have no vote for the silver design yet others have people voting both designs the same time.
Am I or others who don't get a double vote bad designers and shouldn't do designs at all?

On another note, don't know what they said and I don't care, just want to point out the threads.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850381.msg9466615#msg9466615
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25215.msg9436877#msg9436877

Use Google translate before whining. You're still winning afaik...

Mr. iawgoM like I said I don't care what's in the post, the intention is what's bothering me.
This is not the first time you and some like you do competitions like this.

It's clear to all that even if you ask someone whom you have work before to go in this thread and vote for who he wants, that that vote will go to the one who worked with.
And the examples can go on.
I'm not whining like you imply it's just bothering me.

But I'm not in any position to do anything so I'm pointing out the obvious.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bonksnp2 on November 11, 2014, 04:23:55 PM
Many of us feel cheated because of the vote system friends vote for friends. if only Mr. Coinographic have a staff or people behind him that can help him decide which one of the many submitted design can win the first place, all of this commotion would not happen. but i guess this how it is, so good luck to everyone  ;D It sucks having no friends no vote for my design  ;D
They tried this during the last competition and everyone who wasn't in the top 5 flipped out so voting was opened to all designs.

Original 5 Finalists Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=764623.0
Everyone is a Finalist Thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765337.0

Additionally, Coinographic has already stated that pointing others to the contest is fine as long as voters are not enticed.  I haven't personally done this, mostly because enticement is a huge gray area.  Plus I'd rather lose honestly than win dishonestly, but if I understand correctly it is allowed.

Should entrants refrain from pointing others to vote in this contest? I understand this can be a gray area, but the more clarification we can get on this the better.
Pointing others to vote in the contest is fine so long as voters are not enticed

We would all do well to remember that this is Coinographics contest and that they are contributing something to the community not many others can.  In fact, I don't know of any other Bit/Lite/Doge/etc coin producer who lets the community design AND decide on what coins get made.  If your design isn't getting votes, it's not necessarily because no-one likes it, it's because they like at least one other design a bit more.  Let the contest run its course and Coinographic decide what's fair and whats not.  he did for the last contest and I see no reason why he wouldn't for this one.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on November 11, 2014, 04:52:43 PM
We would all do well to remember that this is Coinographics contest and that they are contributing something to the community not many others can.  In fact, I don't know of any other Bit/Lite/Doge/etc coin producer who lets the community design AND decide on what coins get made.  If your design isn't getting votes, it's not necessarily because no-one likes it, it's because they like at least one other design a bit more.  Let the contest run its course and Coinographic decide what's fair and whats not.  he did for the last contest and I see no reason why he wouldn't for this one.

Yes it seems like at the end of the day this is how Coinographic wants the contest to go.  Hopefully they are happy with the design that wins as they will be the ones spending their time and money to produce it and sell it.  Also hopefully any problems with the contest set up doesn't leave a bad taste in anyones mouth about the company/its products...

Seems like they could open voting to the public, and then they could choose a design to create from the top 3 vote recipients.  I know I would want the final say if I was going to mint a coin.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 11, 2014, 06:47:38 PM
Mr. iawgoM like I said I don't care what's in the post, the intention is what's bothering me.
This is not the first time you and some like you do competitions like this.
Sorry Mr. BAU, but that just makes no sense, to say that you don't care what's in the post. I only informed people that there is voting, and specifically mentioned that I'm not asking people to vote for me, but any design they liked. Intention was to advertise the competition. I'd prefer to see 100s of people voting instead of just a few random persons who are passing by. That way we'd really get the best picture on what people like or don't like.

What, we should hide the effing voting thread in your opinion? Gimme a break. I've had enough of this crap in last contest and I'm tired of constantly defending myself. What do you all want? People to apologize to you every time someone gets a vote?

Should entrants refrain from pointing others to vote in this contest? I understand this can be a gray area, but the more clarification we can get on this the better.
Pointing others to vote in the contest is fine so long as voters are not enticed
This actually concludes everything. I won't discuss this further with you or anyone else.

I see I have no vote for the silver design yet others have people voting both designs the same time.
I'm not whining like you imply it's just bothering me.
Sorry, maybe I've misinterpreted the message above. Seemed to me like you are wondering and complaining how come noone voted for your silver design. To be honest, I think you really deserved to win 5 BTC design, it was far better than any other, and had a meaning, message of some kind. You are obviously very talented designer, and your two entries for both silver and gold coins look wonderful...but...they just don't have that "something" that 5 BTC design had...I don't know. Still, you are in the lead with gold coin if I counted well. Are you upset because you maybe won't win both this time? Do you think you are the only one who should have right to win all contests now or something? 10-15 BTC valued coin you won earlier isn't enough? Still plenty of time left...don't panic.

And please, leave this thread for voting...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on November 12, 2014, 12:05:40 AM
gold bonksnp2

I especially loved your 5 BTC gold design.  Would have loved to see that one again.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on November 12, 2014, 12:06:37 AM
silver iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 12, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
silver iawgoM

I just got this PM, I think this is starting to become a joke:

PolyCoin-Team
Jr. Member

« Sent to: Saigonsmokes on: November 11, 2014, 03:02:25 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote  ReplyReply  Remove this messageDelete 
Hi, are you interested in buying votes for the competition you have entered?
I can give you 32 votes in total - all active member accounts and higher.
PM me if interested.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on November 12, 2014, 01:55:17 AM
silver iawgoM

I just got this PM, I think this is starting to become a joke:

PolyCoin-Team
Jr. Member

« Sent to: Saigonsmokes on: November 11, 2014, 03:02:25 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote  ReplyReply  Remove this messageDelete  
Hi, are you interested in buying votes for the competition you have entered?
I can give you 32 votes in total - all active member accounts and higher.
PM me if interested.

I dont doubt what you say, but I can assure you, I'm voting for who I like best, and not being swayed by any member or thread.  Don't assume everybody voting is fraudulent.  The last 5 BTC gold coin voting was a complete mess, and its starting to feel the same way here all over again.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bonksnp2 on November 12, 2014, 02:34:50 AM
gold bonksnp2

I especially loved your 5 BTC gold design.  Would have loved to see that one again.
I thought about it, but I wanted to challenge myself so I went a little outside my comfort zone.

Thanks for the kind words and the vote!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on November 12, 2014, 02:40:52 AM
gold bonksnp2

I especially loved your 5 BTC gold design.  Would have loved to see that one again.
I thought about it, but I wanted to challenge myself so I went a little outside my comfort zone.

Thanks for the kind words and the vote!

You're welcome.  I think you do great designs, and I'd love to see your earlier 5 BTC gold design show up in production somewhere.  


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 12, 2014, 03:23:38 AM
silver iawgoM

I just got this PM, I think this is starting to become a joke:

PolyCoin-Team
Jr. Member

« Sent to: Saigonsmokes on: November 11, 2014, 03:02:25 PM »
Reply with quoteQuote  ReplyReply  Remove this messageDelete  
Hi, are you interested in buying votes for the competition you have entered?
I can give you 32 votes in total - all active member accounts and higher.
PM me if interested.

I dont doubt what you say, but I can assure you, I'm voting for who I like best, and not being swayed by any member or thread.  Don't assume everybody voting is fraudulent.  The last 5 BTC gold coin voting was a complete mess, and its starting to feel the same way here all over again.

Sorry I was not insinuating about you, i was supposed to press reply - not quote!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 12, 2014, 11:18:27 AM
Gold Design : #14 by MrBAU



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 12, 2014, 11:27:48 AM
Silver Design: #3 by iawgoM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MF Doom on November 12, 2014, 01:36:40 PM
Silver coin:  Design Six by jcoin200


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on November 12, 2014, 02:54:41 PM
silver iawgoM

I just got this PM, I think this is starting to become a joke:

PolyCoin-Team
Jr. Member

« Sent to: Saigonsmokes on: November 11, 2014, 03:02:25 PM »
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Hi, are you interested in buying votes for the competition you have entered?
I can give you 32 votes in total - all active member accounts and higher.
PM me if interested.

Sorry I was not insinuating about you, i was supposed to press reply - not quote!

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.  No worries!

I also echo your sentiment.  I wish people would vote for the best designs, and not for who is buying the most votes.  Its doing a disservice to the community and to these contests.  I only care to see the best design win, in order to buy the nicest looking coin.  Coinographic does great work and gives the community the chance to have an input in them, and I feel like many people let greed get in the way.   :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: kondiomir on November 17, 2014, 02:20:55 PM
gold design: Seven by Trivelius
Silver Design: 10 by Trivelius


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 17, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
I just want to see how this will go on so I vote
Silver Design: 10 - Trivelius


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: kosaet on November 17, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
One vote for gold design Seven by Trivelius


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on November 17, 2014, 06:57:50 PM
1 Vote for silver design#10 Trivelius


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 18, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
voting for gold design #13 thermost

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept. 
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 18, 2014, 02:29:13 PM
1 Vote for silver design#10 Trivelius

The sudden multiple votes for Trivelius probably means there's an arrangement in place.
You should've checked the votes first because your vote for Trivelius made him rise above you to second in the silver coin competition. The vote from GigaPixels doesn't count, so he had the same votes as you. If Mr. iawgoM is disqualified for any reason (like for his thread), you just gave away 2 BTC.

voting for gold design #13 thermost

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

none of which apply to me.....good to see that you're 'policing' the thread for Coinographic :)

It does. Your account's last post before being awaken was on June 19th. Your vote doesn't count, just like the votes cast by maximuss, GigaPixels, losh11, Kimax, rancidgash and AnonBitCoiner. If the votes are deducted and the PrimeDice chatbox clique exposed, both competition might end up with the same winner.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on November 18, 2014, 02:42:22 PM
voting for gold design #13 thermost

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

none of which apply to me.....good to see that you're 'policing' the thread for Coinographic :)

Does that help?


The sudden multiple votes for Trivelius probably means there's an arrangement in place.
You should've checked the votes first because your vote for Trivelius made him rise above you to second in the silver coin competition. The vote from GigaPixels doesn't count, so he had the same votes as you. If Mr. iawgoM is disqualified for any reason (like for his thread), you just gave away 2 BTC.

I agree.  And are people using primdice to buy votes?  Clearly the repeated copy/paste votes are just friends voting for designs, but I dont know if there is any rule against that, it just is too bad for coinographic if they end up creating a sub-par coin design that not many people will actually buy


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 18, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
I agree.  And are people using primdice to buy votes?  Clearly the repeated copy/paste votes are just friends voting for designs, but I dont know if there is any rule against that, it just is too bad for coinographic if they end up creating a sub-par coin design that not many people will actually buy

In my defense since it seems I'm also one who last voted him, I just voted to see how the minting of such type of coin would be done and how the design will look compared to the other.
My vote is simply a coincidence.

If the votes are deducted and the PrimeDice chatbox clique exposed, both competition might end up with the same winner.

Mr. EyesWideOpen, I'm not really sure what you mean here, But currently I have some votes in the gold with no influence in the voting decision made for my design, And since I have no votes in the silver design I don't think you were mentioning me as same winner. And I do hope I win one design.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on November 18, 2014, 04:00:17 PM
 I do not know what to write in my defense  ??? . Of all voted for me, i do not know anyone. You can look at my previous competitions and decide whether i use impure methods. I wish to vote for the Mr.BAU's gold design, but i figured that this situation will look like an agreement between me and him. In fact it is the only proposal with strong concept.

  PS: If I wanted to manipulate the vote, maybe I'd do distribution of votes in the whole period of  voting time.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on November 18, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

https://i.imgur.com/ldpKuYV.png


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 18, 2014, 06:17:37 PM
I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

Really, this crap again? Please get off my back already. I guess people who voted didn't know they needed a special permission from you when and for who they should vote...geez...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 18, 2014, 07:27:43 PM
I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

Really, this crap again? Please get off my back already. I guess people who voted didn't know they needed a special permission from you when and for who they should vote...geez...
Not people. Your friends. The same group that voted for you in the last competition, people like MICRO, Conqueror, dadaas, ChekaZ, etc.
They will vote for you even if you posted a picture of a dead cat.

After reading the thread of the previous competition, I don't understand why Coinographic still allowed you to participate in this one.
You farmed votes, you copied the design of others, you made backroom deals. Yet you pretend to be wronged like an innocent victim.

For this competition, you received 3 votes for your gold design - all from your friends.
You received 7 votes for your silver design - five from your friends, one from a brand new account which should rightfully be rejected. That leaves one vote, which might be your single legitimate vote of the competition.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 18, 2014, 07:52:37 PM
I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

Really, this crap again? Please get off my back already. I guess people who voted didn't know they needed a special permission from you when and for who they should vote...geez...
Not people. Your friends. The same group that voted for you in the last competition, people like MICRO, Conqueror, dadaas, ChekaZ, etc.
They will vote for you even if you posted a picture of a dead cat.

After reading the thread of the previous competition, I don't understand why Coinographic still allowed you to participate in this one.
You farmed votes, you copied the design of others, you made backroom deals. Yet you pretend to be wronged like an innocent victim.

For this competition, you received 3 votes for your gold design - all from your friends.
You received 7 votes for your silver design - five from your friends, one from a brand new account which should rightfully be rejected. That leaves one vote, which might be your single legitimate vote of the competition.

Ok, here we go again. You did your homework, congrats. My friends? Nope, not really, I don't hang out with any of those people. As far as I can see, they haven't all blindly gave me their votes for gold and silver coin - they chose the ones they like. Is it so hard to believe that my designs aren't actually bad at all? I'm quite happy with them, really...especially with the silver one. Others are obviously too. But, as they say, beauty is in the eye of beholder. If other designs are so good, where are dozens of votes for them? Is the only way you can win only if you disqualify me again? And yes, I regret the fact that in last competition I was stupid enough to even consider that deal which elianite had offered. I paid my (huge) price for that. And why am I allowed to participate again? Maybe, just maybe my designs are worth considering... I'm not gonna discuss this any more. Please carry on and go make someone else miserable, if that's the only thing that makes you happy in your life.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: calem on November 18, 2014, 11:32:26 PM
Gold: Design Four by bonksnp2

I really love the silver coloured ring around the edge of the coin.
My suggestion would be to thicken the outer ring as to bring the coin down in scale slightly. Iawgom has the right balance.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: calem on November 18, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
Silver: Design Three by iawgoM

A little more bevel and emboss on the ring.
Would also be epic to see it follow a similar design to bonksnp2's where you will have silver in the middle but maybe a bronze finish on the outer ring to really make the centre of the coin "pop" so to speak.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 19, 2014, 01:27:46 AM
voting for gold design #13 thermost

To Vote for your favourite designs please follow the rules below;
1)   Please post a message on this forum with the name of the designer and design number  you are voting for.  Feel free to post any comments you may have for suggested improvements to the design, these comments may be taken into consideration when we work on the final design from the winning concept.  
2)   Any vote from an account created after 4th November 2014 will not be counted. This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.
3)   Any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted.  This is done to prevent cheating, we hope you understand.

none of which apply to me.....good to see that you're 'policing' the thread for Coinographic :)

Really so you have posted what once since June, excluding your vote and that was a couple of days ago? How dows that not apply to you - seeing as I have bought 12 physical coins from Coinographics, I want to ensure that genuine votes are given.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 19, 2014, 06:29:25 AM
I meant the obvious copy and pastes within 5 min of each other:

Really, this crap again? Please get off my back already. I guess people who voted didn't know they needed a special permission from you when and for who they should vote...geez...
Not people. Your friends. The same group that voted for you in the last competition, people like MICRO, Conqueror, dadaas, ChekaZ, etc.
They will vote for you even if you posted a picture of a dead cat.

After reading the thread of the previous competition, I don't understand why Coinographic still allowed you to participate in this one.
You farmed votes, you copied the design of others, you made backroom deals. Yet you pretend to be wronged like an innocent victim.

For this competition, you received 3 votes for your gold design - all from your friends.
You received 7 votes for your silver design - five from your friends, one from a brand new account which should rightfully be rejected. That leaves one vote, which might be your single legitimate vote of the competition.

Ok, here we go again. You did your homework, congrats. My friends? Nope, not really, I don't hang out with any of those people. As far as I can see, they haven't all blindly gave me their votes for gold and silver coin - they chose the ones they like. Is it so hard to believe that my designs aren't actually bad at all? I'm quite happy with them, really...especially with the silver one. Others are obviously too. But, as they say, beauty is in the eye of beholder. If other designs are so good, where are dozens of votes for them? Is the only way you can win only if you disqualify me again? And yes, I regret the fact that in last competition I was stupid enough to even consider that deal which elianite had offered. I paid my (huge) price for that. And why am I allowed to participate again? Maybe, just maybe my designs are worth considering... I'm not gonna discuss this any more. Please carry on and go make someone else miserable, if that's the only thing that makes you happy in your life.
You don't "hang out with any of those people", but they vote for you within minutes of each other, in September's and this competition? Sure, that's a coincidence. Just like them being fellow Croats is a coincidence.

No one's getting "dozens of votes" in this low key competition. Your fake vote count is the highest.

If there's any justice, Coinographic should kick your cheating ass out of the competition along with Thermos and LitcoinCollector. There are other cheaters here, but none as blatant as you and the other two.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 19, 2014, 07:22:48 AM
You don't "hang out with any of those people", but they vote for you within minutes of each other, in September's and this competition? Sure, that's a coincidence. Just like them being fellow Croats is a coincidence.

No one's getting "dozens of votes" in this low key competition. Your fake vote count is the highest.

If there's any justice, Coinographic should kick your cheating ass out of the competition along with Thermos and LitcoinCollector. There are other cheaters here, but none as blatant as you and the other two.


Stop throwing mud on me and trying to achieve a better placement for your favourite. None of my votes are fake. As far as I know, only one Croat voted for me. Hell, I even got a vote from the guy who did numerous video reviews of Coinographic coins - and that's a great recognition for my work. I never enticed anyone to vote for me, I simply advertised that there is a vote going on and told people to vote for whoever they like the most. We could also proclaim that every single vote from every single person here was by friends or fans of designer's work...let's disqualify them all...

I guess this whole voting was unnecessary, and we should have let you decide who will win? You'd like that...wouldn't you?

EOD.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: calem on November 19, 2014, 08:05:34 AM
iawgoM does ftc's graphic design. There's a reason why he gets votes aside from the fact that he draws peoples attention to these design comps.

As much as I would love to see a friend win, like everyone else, I simply vote for the coin I prefer.

So yeah, people like me wouldn't be here voting in the first place if people like iawgoM didn't make a submission and publicise the fact.

If there's such a huge issue, maybe there should be a lot more publicity for the comp..

Everyone reading this right now, go tell all your friends to come and vote. Unless you know you have a biased friend who is just gonna come here to make grief.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on November 19, 2014, 08:21:12 AM
iawgoM does ftc's graphic design. There's a reason why he gets votes aside from the fact that he draws peoples attention to these design comps.

As much as I would love to see a friend win, like everyone else, I simply vote for the coin I prefer.

So yeah, people like me wouldn't be here voting in the first place if people like iawgoM didn't make a submission and publicise the fact.

If there's such a huge issue, maybe there should be a lot more publicity for the comp..

Everyone reading this right now, go tell all your friends to come and vote. Unless you know you have a biased friend who is just gonna come here to make grief.

Thanks, but I think your vote doesn't count either as the voting was already closed when you posted it :)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: calem on November 19, 2014, 08:24:55 AM
Aww.. lol..

Well, my suggestions still stand regardless of the winner/s.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 19, 2014, 01:58:56 PM
Thank you to everyone who voted and took part in our competition. We will be posting the results in the next few days.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: duts_bg on November 19, 2014, 02:20:06 PM
Design Fourteen by MrBAU


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: duts_bg on November 19, 2014, 02:21:54 PM
Design Five by bonksnp2


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: rugrats on November 20, 2014, 08:18:00 AM
Voting's over.
@miffman, @JLynn171, cheers.

https://i.imgur.com/Hs6QIFi.gif


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 21, 2014, 12:40:36 AM
Thank you to everyone who voted and took part in our competition. We will be posting the results in the next few days.

When will the competition that finished 3 weeks ago on Litecointalk be concluded. The winners are still awaiting their prizes and PM's or emails are not being replied to.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21998.0

This concerns me as I have many outstanding pre-orders paid for with you. What is the status of the Chikun and LA coins that you said were being delivered last week? I wanted to place a bid on the 5BTC coins currently at auction but with the lack of response from you, I am a bit concerned.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21278.30


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 21, 2014, 03:15:48 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We're sorry to say that at Coinographic we have been having a bit of a technological nightmare for the last couple of weeks. Our CEO has been having some family problems and personal health issues, keeping him out of the office for a long while.

Once returning, he's been further hit with bad luck as his computer went through a major fault and unfortunately not everything had been backed up.  We have been contacting various experts who are now trying to fix the issues, but because we need to wait for specialist parts, the fix won't be accomplished before Monday or possibly Tuesday of next week.

Our CEO would like to apologise for any inconvenience this has caused:

"I appreciate that many of you will be asking how this could have happened.  I can only say that the pressure of work, coupled with my ill health at such a crucial time, have led to the error of my not ensuring that everything was backed up in the event of a technological failure.  I've certainly learnt my lesson.  All the information that I need to fund coins or process orders is locked inside the damaged PC.  I can recover it, but have no option but to wait for the experts to fix the problem."

"I can't apologise enough to everyone.  As soon as I can get back online my small staff team and I will be working flat out to resolve all outstanding issues.  Clearly this is something that should not have happened and I will be taking steps to ensure that it won't happen again.  I appreciate how frustrated and upset you may be, but please bear with me while I get everything up and running again and all outstanding funding and orders processed."


Thank you.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 22, 2014, 09:37:28 PM
No problem.
The important thing is he recovers medically soon.
The rest is important but health always comes first.
Thanks for letting us know!

Good luck :)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 25, 2014, 01:34:40 PM
Mr. Coinographic could we have an update? Thanks.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on November 26, 2014, 03:05:33 AM
There are many awaiting updates:

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=21278.45


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on November 26, 2014, 08:08:42 AM
I prefer this one:

Design Nine by LitcoinCollector


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on November 26, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
I prefer this one:

Design Nine by LitcoinCollector

Voting closed a while back. Coinographic has been having some issues and we are waiting for him to resume business. I guess we all have to be patient.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on November 26, 2014, 03:40:15 PM
I prefer this one:

Design Nine by LitcoinCollector


Yes competition is closed, but thanks anyway  :)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 27, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
just to let you all know we are back up and running.  We will be announcing the winners tomorrow

Thank you all for your patience


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LazerViking on November 27, 2014, 06:43:27 PM
Coinographic I've been messaging you for almost a week with no response.  Will you please get back to me?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 28, 2014, 12:09:33 AM
Coinographic I've been messaging you for almost a week with no response.  Will you please get back to me?

Yes will be messaging everyone tomorrow regarding any outstanding issues.  Sorry for the delay


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on November 28, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We would like to apologise for the delay in announcing the winners of the competition. This has been due to the numerous issues we have encountered this week, most notably our CEO's PC which unfortunately broke down.

Everything has now been resolved and Coinographic is back open for business, so without further ado we'd like to announce the winners!

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Litcoin Collector (wins the fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: thermost, MrBAU, iawgoM, Trivelius (will each receive 0.25 BTC)

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: iawgoM (wins the fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: Trivelius, LitcoinCollector, AT101ET (will each receive 0.25 BTC), joint 5th place: Sarahiko, jcoin200 (will each receive 0.125 BTC)

We will be in touch with all prize winners via PM next week.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 28, 2014, 03:49:57 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We would like to apologise for the delay in announcing the winners of the competition. This has been due to the numerous issues we have encountered this week, most notably our CEO's PC which unfortunately broke down.

Everything has now been resolved and Coinographic is back open for business, so without further ado we'd like to announce the winners!

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Litcoin Collector (wins the fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: thermost, MrBAU, iawgoM, Trivelius (will each receive 0.25 BTC)

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: iawgoM (wins the fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: Trivelius, LitcoinCollector, AT101ET (will each receive 0.25 BTC), joint 5th place: Sarahiko, jcoin200 (will each receive 0.125 BTC)

We will be in touch with all prize winners via PM next week.

Thank you.

Mr. Coinographic just wondering
Can you please detail how this is the decision, from what I counted on the gold coin I had more votes than LitcoinCollector, it's your decision.
But can you please explain.

maximuss,losh11 - don't follow the rules
Votes from the page 5 including, are pass the voting time.

Myself : AT101ET,Saigonsmokes,ChronosCrypto,Forceflow,erre,AnonBitCoiner
LitcoinCollector :findftp,Conqueror,PsychoticBoy,Kimax


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on November 28, 2014, 08:58:29 PM
I've did my own votecount, everyone can check it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SYF5m2rqYRfzcUvaJ8ubRx_3bDgLXnAWfO_i7OCPCE4/edit?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/YrLLIxE.png


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: EyesWideOpen on November 28, 2014, 09:08:02 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We would like to apologise for the delay in announcing the winners of the competition. This has been due to the numerous issues we have encountered this week, most notably our CEO's PC which unfortunately broke down.

Everything has now been resolved and Coinographic is back open for business, so without further ado we'd like to announce the winners!

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Litcoin Collector (wins the fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: thermost, MrBAU, iawgoM, Trivelius (will each receive 0.25 BTC)

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: iawgoM (wins the fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: Trivelius, LitcoinCollector, AT101ET (will each receive 0.25 BTC), joint 5th place: Sarahiko, jcoin200 (will each receive 0.125 BTC)

We will be in touch with all prize winners via PM next week.

Thank you.


How did you arrive at the winner? Did you just ignore your own rules and common sense along the way?
Votes from maximuss, GigaPixels, losh11, Kimax, rancidgash, AnonBitCoiner and bhantom all did not meet your own rules.
Other votes came within minutes of each other and voted exactly the same as they did in September's competition.
Both of your announced winners were clearly manipulating the votes and you seem to be condoning this behavior.

Maybe next time I will enter your competition with something my daughter drew and announced it on my mining pool and get 100+ votes from people who'd felt compelled to vote for me.

What a joke.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bonksnp2 on November 29, 2014, 05:44:55 PM
Thanks for putting on the competition Coinographic.

Congratulations to the winners.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Worldofbtc on December 01, 2014, 09:51:49 AM
I've did my own votecount, everyone can check it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SYF5m2rqYRfzcUvaJ8ubRx_3bDgLXnAWfO_i7OCPCE4/edit?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/YrLLIxE.png

Stop crying like a bitch MrBAU, what a fucking pussy. You shouldn't have even won the last competion in the first place becasuse you were sending out pms to the top 3 guys that all got disqualified. In your pms you were offering to sell votes. Of course you used one of your sockpuppet accounts. We checked your IP and the IP from that sockpuppet and guess what - they were the same. So actually you should have been disqualified.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on December 01, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
I've did my own votecount, everyone can check it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SYF5m2rqYRfzcUvaJ8ubRx_3bDgLXnAWfO_i7OCPCE4/edit?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/YrLLIxE.png

Stop crying like a bitch MrBAU, what a fucking pussy. You shouldn't have even won the last competion in the first place becasuse you were sending out pms to the top 3 guys that all got disqualified. In your pms you were offering to sell votes. Of course you used one of your sockpuppet accounts. We checked your IP and the IP from that sockpuppet and guess what - they were the same. So actually you should have been disqualified.

Please talk nicely, I don't think I've talked to you disrespectful in the first place.
Secondly, Who is we that you checked the accounts? first come with prove of what are you talking and if it comes to that, when and if it comes to this allegation I'll disclose to Mr. Coinographic my ip/isp and location. You're just trying to throw bad words toward me.

This is not a complain I just asking a vote recount and provide details on how the voting count was done.
All of this people who voted legitimate for the design they like their votes are ignored.

When I provide prove that the vote isn't as it is, I'm called a, quote "fucking pussy". Despite what others think I still like being fair, all my votes were casted by people that I did not have influence over them at all.
I hope Mr. Coinographic does see that and he himself could check with an admin/moderator of the forum if there's any doubt, and recount the votes right to see who actually won.

And on top of that when I read comments like yours I feel a bit upset knowing the fact isn't true, This community is toxic, and would advise Mr. Coinographic to change the approach with all this voting and just let his team choose the design they like, This voting sends a bad vibe all around.
Like I said before and this is the last decision I'll not participate in any more competitions, what it's going on in this competition and the last is a disrespect towards me.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on December 01, 2014, 04:56:07 PM
Quote PM from Mr. Coinographic "there will not be a recount.  Our decision is final", Don't expect fair counting of the votes next time.
A total disappointment.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on December 02, 2014, 02:36:39 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

As MrBAU has quoted, our decision is final and there will be no recount. We would like to address the voting and put things into perspective for you all.

One of our rules contained an error, where "any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted" should have in fact been "before" the 4th October 2014. We apologise for what we felt was an obvious typo; we only noticed it until after the competition and amended it accordingly in our votes. If we were not to amend this rule, inactive or sockpuppet accounts (provided they were created before the 4th November 2014) could have easily posted on other Bitcointalk forums before making their votes, which we would have then counted - unfairly - as valid. We hope this clears up any confusion.

Please find our votes spreadsheet here (http://www.coinographic.com/votes.pdf). Note that users such as maximuss, losh11 and RancidGash have valid votes under the correct rules.

This will be our final statement on this matter. Due to the feedback we've received and drama that has taken place throughout our contests, there will be no more design competitions on Bitcointalk in future.

We would like to thank you all for participating in this competition and we look forward to manufacturing the winning coins.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 02, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

As MrBAU has quoted, our decision is final and there will be no recount. We would like to address the voting and put things into perspective for you all.

One of our rules contained an error, where "any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted" should have in fact been "before" the 4th October 2014. We apologise for what we felt was an obvious typo; we only noticed it until after the competition and amended it accordingly in our votes. If we were not to amend this rule, inactive or sockpuppet accounts (provided they were created before the 4th November 2014) could have easily posted on other Bitcointalk forums before making their votes, which we would have then counted - unfairly - as valid. We hope this clears up any confusion.

Please find our votes spreadsheet here (http://www.coinographic.com/votes.pdf). Note that users such as maximuss, losh11 and RancidGash have valid votes under the correct rules.

This will be our final statement on this matter. Due to the feedback we've received and drama that has taken place throughout our contests, there will be no more design competitions on Bitcointalk in future.

We would like to thank you all for participating in this competition and we look forward to manufacturing the winning coins.

Thats too bad.  In theory a design contest is a good idea because it could really embody something the community wants to see in a physical bitcoin.  Unfortunately the way votes came in, no body wants to accept the outcome.  Hopefully this doesn't affect sales and the final product is a good quality coin.

And even though my designs did not win, I'll still say thanks to Coinographic for hosting the contest.  Good luck with sales!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on December 02, 2014, 08:56:34 PM
Dear Coinographic, designers and physical (bit)coin enthusiasts,

Congratulations to iawgoM for 1st place Silver coin.
I am realy looking forward to work with Coinographic and complete the Gold coin design.
Regards,

LitcoinCollector


On another note: Competing in the Coinographic contests gave me the push to buy physical (bit)coins myself.
I think it is big a loss for designers on bitcointalk that Coinographic is not going to do contests anymore, for reasons we all understand.
Coinographic does a lot of good for btc and altcoins, they invest a lot of time, money, effort in promoting bitcoin/altcoin which benefits the whole crypto community.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: EyesWideOpen on December 03, 2014, 06:16:46 AM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

As MrBAU has quoted, our decision is final and there will be no recount. We would like to address the voting and put things into perspective for you all.

One of our rules contained an error, where "any vote from an account that has not had any posting activity after 4th October 2014 will not be counted" should have in fact been "before" the 4th October 2014. We apologise for what we felt was an obvious typo; we only noticed it until after the competition and amended it accordingly in our votes. If we were not to amend this rule, inactive or sockpuppet accounts (provided they were created before the 4th November 2014) could have easily posted on other Bitcointalk forums before making their votes, which we would have then counted - unfairly - as valid. We hope this clears up any confusion.

Please find our votes spreadsheet here (http://www.coinographic.com/votes.pdf). Note that users such as maximuss, losh11 and RancidGash have valid votes under the correct rules.

This will be our final statement on this matter. Due to the feedback we've received and drama that has taken place throughout our contests, there will be no more design competitions on Bitcointalk in future.

We would like to thank you all for participating in this competition and we look forward to manufacturing the winning coins.

The drama came because you managed the entire thing poorly, and worse, rewarded cheaters.
Your coins will forever be tarnished because of this. If there's anyone to blame, it's you.
I just hope all your customers will receive their pending LTC coins without any more computer problems.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 06, 2014, 12:50:25 PM
To all Coinographic clients and customers:

We would like to apologise for the delay in announcing the winners of the competition. This has been due to the numerous issues we have encountered this week, most notably our CEO's PC which unfortunately broke down.

Everything has now been resolved and Coinographic is back open for business, so without further ado we'd like to announce the winners!

Gold Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: Litcoin Collector (wins the fully funded coin (0.50 BTC .999 gold plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: thermost, MrBAU, iawgoM, Trivelius (will each receive 0.25 BTC)

Silver Plated Brass Coin:
1st Place: iawgoM (wins the fully funded coin (0.10 BTC .999 silver plated brass), + 2 Bitcoins)
2nd-5th Place: Trivelius, LitcoinCollector, AT101ET (will each receive 0.25 BTC), joint 5th place: Sarahiko, jcoin200 (will each receive 0.125 BTC)

We will be in touch with all prize winners via PM next week.

Thank you.


Still no word. Any updates?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Thesuic12 on December 06, 2014, 12:53:13 PM
first one is nice in my option lol xD


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on December 08, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
Anyone got contacted? I haven't.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 09, 2014, 12:09:38 AM
Anyone got contacted? I haven't.

No I haven't yet either.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on December 09, 2014, 05:33:24 AM
still waiting for mr. coinographic update, maybe his sorting out some problems before he can get back to us.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on December 10, 2014, 09:48:05 AM
Dear Coinographic, could you give us an update please?

Thanks


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on December 10, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
Nothing yet. Hope there will be some feedback soon.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on December 12, 2014, 04:46:36 PM
Nothing yet. Hope there will be some feedback soon.

Got contacted via PM, they're alive :)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AltcoinInvestor on December 12, 2014, 05:07:26 PM
For gold one;
if design 7 has the asia, europe and australia on the backside; that's it!

For silver one;
design 6 is good.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 12, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
For gold one;
if design 7 has the asia, europe and australia on the backside; that's it!

For silver one;
design 6 is good.

Voting ended a few weeks ago, but thanks for the silver coin vote anyway!  I spent a lot of time on it!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on December 14, 2014, 07:11:58 AM
Also got a PM.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 17, 2014, 03:40:46 PM
Voting ended 1 month ago, anyone got anything besides a PM?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on December 17, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Voting ended 1 month ago, anyone got anything besides a PM?
Nope


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on December 18, 2014, 12:38:16 PM
Voting ended 1 month ago, anyone got anything besides a PM?

Unfortunately, no :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: losh11 on December 18, 2014, 05:22:20 PM
The participants of the Litecoin competition which ended on the same date have already received their prizes.
Please message @coinographic on twitter, they must have forgotten.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 19, 2014, 12:47:04 PM
The participants of the Litecoin competition which ended on the same date have already received their prizes.
Please message @coinographic on twitter, they must have forgotten.

I sent coinographic a PM yesterday, I will update if I get a response


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on December 21, 2014, 02:24:19 PM
This year..hopefully? :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on December 21, 2014, 03:48:35 PM
I used my prize towards buying a coin of theirs.
Paid for the order and now waiting for the coin to come back from hallmarking.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 22, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
This year..hopefully? :(

As of today we will closed for the Christmas break.  Any funding requests or emails to us will be dealt with on our return to the office on the 28th December.

We wish you all a merry Christmas!

Thank you


If we are lucky, at this point I am not expecting a payout, disappointed in their lack of professionalism.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on December 23, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on December 24, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks

Its been almost a week since I sent them a PM and no response, although I see they have been logged on everyday since.  Good luck but I doubt they are planning on paying out the bounties.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: losh11 on December 25, 2014, 12:03:42 AM
Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks

Its been almost a week since I sent them a PM and no response, although I see they have been logged on everyday since.  Good luck but I doubt they are planning on paying out the bounties.

They will pay the bounties. I almost guarantee it.
They actually put a post on LTCtalk and on their website that they would be closed for christmas.

I was in a competition on LTCtalk, which ended on the same time, and they have paid all the bounties and given out the coins to all the winners.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on December 29, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks

Its been almost a week since I sent them a PM and no response, although I see they have been logged on everyday since.  Good luck but I doubt they are planning on paying out the bounties.

If they won't pay at least let us know and get it over with. It is very unprofessional. Unfortunately for me I face once again with false promises.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on December 29, 2014, 03:21:53 PM
Dear Coinographic,
could you please give an update?
Thanks

Its been almost a week since I sent them a PM and no response, although I see they have been logged on everyday since.  Good luck but I doubt they are planning on paying out the bounties.

If they won't pay at least let us know and get it over with. It is very unprofessional. Unfortunately for me I face once again with false promises.

I'm still waiting for my 5btc gold coin and this compensation :), let's just hope they were busy.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on December 29, 2014, 03:30:17 PM
Got PM saying "this week".


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on December 29, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
Also got a PM.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 02, 2015, 12:44:33 PM
This year..hopefully? :(

Not.

Got PM saying "this week".

End of week is here...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on January 06, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
Got PM saying "this week".

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on January 06, 2015, 04:11:56 PM
Got PM saying "this week".

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o

I dont mind waiting, but its the false promises such as "This will be dealt with this week" that irritate me.

If they weren't prepared to complete the contest it should have been postponed, or still open.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 06, 2015, 11:13:37 PM
Got PM saying "this week".

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o

I dont mind waiting, but its the false promises such as "This will be dealt with this week" that irritate me.

If they weren't prepared to complete the contest it should have been postponed, or still open.

Perhaps my posting in this thread will get Coinographic to fulfill their obligations of paying out their contest prizes in a timely manner.

They have been attempting to auction coins off and sell them in the goods section and auction section of this forum.

My suggestion is that they pay out all of their prize bounties they promised they would. This contest ended over a month and a half ago.

It would be in good faith that they pay out this contest in full before attempting to sell other coins on this forum.

They appear to have time to post auctions and threads about coin sales and offers but no time to finish this design contest payout.

I'm sure I will get flack from Coinographic about this, but in the interest of people who were promised something and are waiting patiently for their prize(s) I am posting.



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on January 07, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
Got PM saying "this week".

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o

I dont mind waiting, but its the false promises such as "This will be dealt with this week" that irritate me.

If they weren't prepared to complete the contest it should have been postponed, or still open.

Perhaps my posting in this thread will get Coinographic to fulfill their obligations of paying out their contest prizes in a timely manner.

They have been attempting to auction coins off and sell them in the goods section and auction section of this forum.

My suggestion is that they pay out all of their prize bounties they promised they would. This contest ended over a month and a half ago.

It would be in good faith that they pay out this contest in full before attempting to sell other coins on this forum.

They appear to have time to post auctions and threads about coin sales and offers but no time to finish this design contest payout.

I'm sure I will get flack from Coinographic about this, but in the interest of people who were promised something and are waiting patiently for their prize(s) I am posting.



Perhaps...

They may be auctioning off the coins in order to pay these bounties, but it seems if this contest was well thought out they would have been prepared to complete it in a reasonable time frame.

It also doesn't seem unreasonable for them to post an update with a date they actually can meet, and not just keep stringing people along.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 07, 2015, 11:42:23 PM
Got PM saying "this week".

  Happy New Year to all participants! Patience is all we have now.  :o ;D :o

I dont mind waiting, but its the false promises such as "This will be dealt with this week" that irritate me.

If they weren't prepared to complete the contest it should have been postponed, or still open.

Perhaps my posting in this thread will get Coinographic to fulfill their obligations of paying out their contest prizes in a timely manner.

They have been attempting to auction coins off and sell them in the goods section and auction section of this forum.

My suggestion is that they pay out all of their prize bounties they promised they would. This contest ended over a month and a half ago.

It would be in good faith that they pay out this contest in full before attempting to sell other coins on this forum.

They appear to have time to post auctions and threads about coin sales and offers but no time to finish this design contest payout.

I'm sure I will get flack from Coinographic about this, but in the interest of people who were promised something and are waiting patiently for their prize(s) I am posting.



Perhaps...

They may be auctioning off the coins in order to pay these bounties, but it seems if this contest was well thought out they would have been prepared to complete it in a reasonable time frame.

It also doesn't seem unreasonable for them to post an update with a date they actually can meet, and not just keep stringing people along.

Not well planned we can agree on. Making promises you can't keep can be frustrating to deal with.



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 08, 2015, 09:19:41 AM
This silence is ridiculous...why is Coinographic ignoring this thread? :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on January 08, 2015, 09:26:44 AM
I have been following this thread for a while and it makes me sad to see what has been happening here. I have left Coinographic negative feedback, which will be removed once they post an update about the current situation.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 08, 2015, 10:09:30 AM
I have been following this thread for a while and it makes me sad to see what has been happening here. I have left Coinographic negative feedback, which will be removed once they post an update about the current situation.

I've done the same. Hopefully this is resolved without further delays.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on January 08, 2015, 01:12:27 PM
I'm still waiting for my coin to arrive.
Payment was sent on the 15th of December. I've received no contact to the emails I've sent asking for an update other than one email saying it will be sent out ASAP.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on January 11, 2015, 05:19:15 AM
Any update from Mr. coinographic? has anyone have been paid? we are still waiting.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on January 11, 2015, 05:28:21 AM
Still no response. I've sent a couple more messages but haven't heard back yet.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 12, 2015, 01:18:23 AM
Seems they are logging into the forum (today):

Name:   Coinographic
Posts:   222
Activity:   196
Position:   Full Member
Date Registered:   June 16, 2014, 09:25:52 PM
Last Active:   January 11, 2015, 08:33:34 PM


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: BAGOBO on January 12, 2015, 07:10:55 AM
I like gold design 3 by iawgoM and silver design 9 by litecoincollector   ;D
The designs are very interesting


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on January 12, 2015, 12:38:31 PM
Firstly we want to apologize for the delay in response here, we realize this is unacceptable.

The company is having cash flow problems at the moment.  We invested 10’s 1000’s into our litecoin collection and currently we have been unable to sell them (even at cost price).

We have full intentions to complete this contest and develop the bitcoins that were designed by the winning members of this competition but currently we are unable to complete this competition.

As soon as we sell some of our existing stock and generate some cash flow we will be in touch with the winning members of this competition and pay the prizes as promised and begin the development of the coins.

Whilst we understand this is not an ideal situation, it’s impossible for us to do anything else other than wait at this stage.

Thank you


Title: Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on January 12, 2015, 01:26:50 PM
May I suggest you find a way to cut costs, and offer the next coins as special orders?  Though not ideal for buyers, it means you don't have to hold inventory.   Or you could just have a few in inventory, then replenish as needed.

If you greatly lowered your golds, you might get some more orders.

Also consider a small deposit and the rest held in escrow, so people could feel comfortable now knowing your cash flow issues.  Otherwise you may have problems getting future preorders where people have to wait.

I also suggest more frequent updates to the community going forward.

Just a few suggestions if it helps.  I think your coins are beautiful and want to see your company continue making more.


Title: Re: Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on January 12, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
May I suggest you find a way to cut costs, and offer the next coins as special orders?  Though not ideal for buyers, it means you don't have to hold inventory.   Or you could just have a few in inventory, then replenish as needed.

If you greatly lowered your golds, you might get some more orders.

Also consider a small deposit and the rest held in escrow, so people could feel comfortable now knowing your cash flow issues.  Otherwise you may have problems getting future preorders where people have to wait.

I also suggest more frequent updates to the community going forward.

Just a few suggestions if it helps.  I think your coins are beautiful and want to see your company continue making more.

We cant lower the price of the golds as believe it or not there is not much profit in them.  We are however giving away free litecoins with gold orders as per our offer thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911946.0


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on January 12, 2015, 07:01:30 PM
Firstly we want to apologize for the delay in response here, we realize this is unacceptable.

The company is having cash flow problems at the moment.  We invested 10’s 1000’s into our litecoin collection and currently we have been unable to sell them (even at cost price).

We have full intentions to complete this contest and develop the bitcoins that were designed by the winning members of this competition but currently we are unable to complete this competition.

As soon as we sell some of our existing stock and generate some cash flow we will be in touch with the winning members of this competition and pay the prizes as promised and begin the development of the coins.

Whilst we understand this is not an ideal situation, it’s impossible for us to do anything else other than wait at this stage.

Thank you


I can have sympathy there, I lost some too trying to deal with litecoins, I think a lot of people were fooled when they shot up to $45/$50.  Now I stay away from any and all "alt-coins".

With that said though, the contest should have been postponed or still open to voting until it was able to be completed.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: cyclops on January 12, 2015, 08:21:23 PM
Firstly we want to apologize for the delay in response here, we realize this is unacceptable.

The company is having cash flow problems at the moment.  We invested 10’s 1000’s into our litecoin collection and currently we have been unable to sell them (even at cost price).

We have full intentions to complete this contest and develop the bitcoins that were designed by the winning members of this competition but currently we are unable to complete this competition.

As soon as we sell some of our existing stock and generate some cash flow we will be in touch with the winning members of this competition and pay the prizes as promised and begin the development of the coins.

Whilst we understand this is not an ideal situation, it’s impossible for us to do anything else other than wait at this stage.

Thank you


Been asking for a few days over email for you to fund one of the 25 LTC coins, no response...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 13, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
Sigh...I thought this might happen  :-X

Instead of getting the prize immediately after the results were published, with today's BTC price, it is worth 350 USD less... :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 13, 2015, 06:15:01 PM
Sigh...I thought this might happen  :-X

Instead of getting the prize immediately after the results were published, with today's BTC price, it is worth 350 USD less... :(

I guess that is the next question should the contest only be liable for the bitcoin or the fiat equivalent. Most would argue that the BTC amount should stay the same as the price could have gone up just as much as it could have gone down.



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: keyscore44 on January 14, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
Hope it wont take too long to get the btc to pay all the designers, please can the OP post a bit more frequently.


Title: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: bithalo on January 14, 2015, 01:57:13 PM
To the OP...are the 2B Silver "B" and 1B Silver "Ant" still being made?  If so, what's the expected completion date?  Many people have pre paid.

From your post, I understand the new coins from this contest haven't started production.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LazerViking on January 15, 2015, 09:20:44 AM
1D5rnkM1afMeL7wWVkDvBRcwnzZkBLVUgs

Please send the winning bid to this address.  When paid please forward the transaction ID and your shipping information to admin@coinographic.com.

Thank you for your business

Marry Christmas

Thank you!  BTC sent, email sent.  Looking forward to getting this beauty!


Coinographic auctioned #1 of his 1 BTC gold coin on Dec 26th, 2014.  He got 6 BTC that day.  More than enough to pay everyone out their BTC contest winnings.  Just saying.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on January 15, 2015, 09:32:40 AM
Sigh...I thought this might happen  :-X

Instead of getting the prize immediately after the results were published, with today's BTC price, it is worth 350 USD less... :(

Were in the same ship, There's no date when the 5BTC coin will be made/shipped and the BTC Coin funded, and at this rate the BTC plummets even more.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on January 15, 2015, 09:49:29 AM
Another email sent replying to my email from Coinographic on Dec 26th saying my coin would be shipped ASAP.
Still not heard back from him yet.
The coin I chose is still listed on the site for sale.
Once again, this is extremely unprofessional.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Fortify on January 15, 2015, 10:50:20 AM
Guys I think you should have some more leniency. I'm not saying what Coinographic did is right, but they seem like a reasonably legitimate company compared to others in the past. Yes, they need to prioritize the money for designers and they seem to have vastly overstretched themselves (there was no need to expand into anything except bitcoin until your stock was sold) but with the negative feedback/red mark on their profile you have effectively made it impossible for them to sell any more.

It's a chicken and egg scenario, yes the designers deserve to be paid, but that is never going to happen when nobody else buys from them. The coins are still getting delivered to buyers or did until they stopped getting ordered two days ago. They are also two fairly distinct issues to the business. As for Coinographic, you should pay what you owe, there was no need to jump on altcoins either & you should keep communication open.

As for the value of the prize, if the prize was offered in Bitcoin, that's how you take it. It has been extremely volatile and nobody knows where it is heading - that is the gamble you took. Forget about any of this "it should be paid in fiat equivalent". Coinographic, this should encourage you to pay while bitcoin is relatively cheap!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on January 15, 2015, 10:53:08 AM
Guys I think you should have some more leniency. I'm not saying what Coinographic did is right, but they seem like a reasonably legitimate company compared to others in the past. Yes, they need to prioritize the money for designers and they seem to have vastly overstretched themselves (there was no need to expand into anything except bitcoin until your stock was sold) but with the negative feedback/red mark on their profile you have effectively made it impossible for them to sell any more.

It's a chicken and egg scenario, yes the designers deserve to be paid, but that is never going to happen when nobody else buys from them. The coins are still getting delivered to buyers or did until they stopped getting ordered two days ago. They are also two fairly distinct issues to the business. As for Coinographic, you should pay what you owe, there was no need to jump on altcoins either & you should keep communication open.
Fortify, you make a good point. I'm going to change my negative into a neutral, for now.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 15, 2015, 06:32:53 PM
Another email sent replying to my email from Coinographic on Dec 26th saying my coin would be shipped ASAP.
Still not heard back from him yet.
The coin I chose is still listed on the site for sale.
Once again, this is extremely unprofessional.


This is simply why I never opted for the preorder model. Even when the asic manufacturers were doing it I refused to preorder any of their products.

Taking people's money to fund your project and making them wait as customers when they are in fact investors is unprofessional.

If this contest could not be completed when they stated they should have said so long ago and not went silent. Come to find out now they can't pay it out to the design contest winners as the price of BTC continues to fall.

People should take a lesson again in the idea of preordering something that has not been completely developed and in-hand.

@AT101ET, did they ever get back to you on your request on the coins you ordered and paid for?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 15, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
Guys I think you should have some more leniency. I'm not saying what Coinographic did is right, but they seem like a reasonably legitimate company compared to others in the past. Yes, they need to prioritize the money for designers and they seem to have vastly overstretched themselves (there was no need to expand into anything except bitcoin until your stock was sold) but with the negative feedback/red mark on their profile you have effectively made it impossible for them to sell any more.

It's a chicken and egg scenario, yes the designers deserve to be paid, but that is never going to happen when nobody else buys from them. The coins are still getting delivered to buyers or did until they stopped getting ordered two days ago. They are also two fairly distinct issues to the business. As for Coinographic, you should pay what you owe, there was no need to jump on altcoins either & you should keep communication open.

As for the value of the prize, if the prize was offered in Bitcoin, that's how you take it. It has been extremely volatile and nobody knows where it is heading - that is the gamble you took. Forget about any of this "it should be paid in fiat equivalent". Coinographic, this should encourage you to pay while bitcoin is relatively cheap!

The other side of the argument is:

1. They obviously have been hiding the fact that they could not pay out the contest in a timely manner due to their claiming "this week" to certain users that it would be paid and then not paying and claiming they do not have the fund to pay the contest. This is a blatant lie and unacceptable.

2. You are right the contest is to be paid out in physical coins and BTC. The problem with this is that they stated the contest would end by a certain date and obviously most design entrants were expecting to be paid within a few days if a week of the end of the contest. Now almost 2 months later the price of bitcoin has halved. Pick which side of the coin you want but both sides have their point and I acknowledge them both.

3. My negative feedback is going to stay until it has been proven that they did make good on their design contest payouts. If anyone knows me on this forum it is one to call a spade a spade. Did coinographic intend to scam? I don't think so, but did they intend on lying? I can't see how I would otherwise be convinced they did not lie to entrants about payment. Maybe the better word is mislead...then they lied. Leaving the feedback on this forum is not making it impossible for them to sell. They have a website and the rest of the internet to make sales (including ebay).

4. Ultimately I originally thought coinographic was legitimate but after the continued instances of them being unfair and dishonest on the litecoin and bitcoin forums, I have to question their character. They totally botched their initial coin auction for their 25 LTC 2 oz silver coins on litecointalk.org. I won several of the coins and then had my bids invalidated by changing the rules of the auction after the auction ended.

Supposedly this design contest was not handled properly in its execution. Not to mention the blantant lie of claiming "this week" you will be paid to the design contest winners.

Their communication skills are horrible if not non-existent on several matters. Being unresponsive for weeks, allowing your computer to be not backed up with important customer information and claiming that personal issues disallowed you to be able to setup a proper backup is jaw dropping, now having a design contest finish and not paying out what was promised in a timely manner then lying when payment will happen, then coming out and saying "we have cash flow problems".

Perhaps I am being harsh but I hold coinographic to the same standard I hold myself to and that is being honest, upfront, and communicative to members of the community. If they can't integrate themselves into the community in those aspects efficiently, they should not be allowed to have a non negative trust rating as their actions ultimately determined their character.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 21, 2015, 03:25:17 AM
Firstly we want to apologize for the delay in response here, we realize this is unacceptable.

The company is having cash flow problems at the moment.  We invested 10’s 1000’s into our litecoin collection and currently we have been unable to sell them (even at cost price).

We have full intentions to complete this contest and develop the bitcoins that were designed by the winning members of this competition but currently we are unable to complete this competition.

As soon as we sell some of our existing stock and generate some cash flow we will be in touch with the winning members of this competition and pay the prizes as promised and begin the development of the coins.

Whilst we understand this is not an ideal situation, it’s impossible for us to do anything else other than wait at this stage.

Thank you


More than 8 days later and issues posted after this post by your customers have supposedly not been addressed both here and in your auction thread where worldtreasurefinder is asking for answers on his coin he won/prepaid for.

In addition to this contest payout issue, there are people waiting for coins they ordered last month and some waiting for coins to be funded.

This deserves a bump.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on January 26, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
Any news guys?
Maybe some payment in the Silver LTC coins?
Thanks


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 26, 2015, 02:51:39 PM
Any news guys?
Maybe some payment in the Silver LTC coins?
Thanks

Yeah, it would be nice to hear something from Coinographic soon :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on January 26, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
"Hey, I am here - been away for a while due to ill health....I emailed Coinographic and expect we will hear from him in the next week (thats what he told me) - we will just wait and see and yes I am still waiting on coins (BTC) but every other coin I have had has been funded. "

above is from User post - saigoned on litecointalk January 22, 2015


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on January 26, 2015, 09:02:28 PM
Coinographic is alive and running. He should be posting an update on here pretty soon.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on January 27, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
I almost forgot about this, thank you for everyone helping us, coinographic we need an update please.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 27, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
https://i.imgur.com/uuoos66.jpg

I received this message from Coinographic yesterday morning. I replied "Sorry to hear that. Can I ask what you plan to do with the pre-sale funds for the gold collection?"

As of this morning, I haven't heard back. 

For the record, I had offered to purchase one of Coinographic's silver pieces recently, and I expressed an interest in
a trade with them as well.

I am not posting this to tear them down. I don't know the entire story. I am posting this because after reading the comments below I believe this information could prevent others from pre-ordering a product that may never show up.


as far as i am aware every order has been shipped.  We will look into this for you

I ordered and paid on 09th december and still wait for shipping information!!!



Paid two weeks ago and their account went dark since then. No responses to PMs. I'm starting to get concerned......

They've been online 3 days ago on the litecointalk forum. I'm starting to think there wasn't any plans to make physical bitcoins at all  :-\ but I don't want to cause any FUD.


I haven't seen any member here receives physical bitcoin from Coinographic.  It is alarming that the shipping due date is fast approaching and there is no words or reply from Coinographic on the pre-order coins.  I was preparing to order the silver physical bitcoin from them but now I am backing out  concern that they may be facing some kinds o ffinancial or cash flow trouble.







Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 27, 2015, 09:40:26 PM
well..great... :/

I wouldn't mind being paid in few unfunded pure silver coins (25LTC) though.

Or, he could just sell out those coins he has in stock as silver -> buy crypto -> pay out bounties...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on January 28, 2015, 06:38:29 AM
That's perfect, this doesn't supposed to mean like he would not pay anything anymore?
Coinographic still has to give me 5BTC Coin + 5 BTC + 0.25BTC


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 28, 2015, 08:38:19 AM
That's perfect, this doesn't supposed to mean like he would not pay anything anymore?
Coinographic still has to give me 5BTC Coin + 5 BTC + 0.25BTC

I do not know.

The fair thing would be to pay you the bitcoin equivalent of what he owes you some way some how if they are not making the gold coin anymore.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on January 28, 2015, 12:04:09 PM
well..great... :/

I wouldn't mind being paid in few unfunded pure silver coins (25LTC) though.

Or, he could just sell out those coins he has in stock as silver -> buy crypto -> pay out bounties...

Well, I PM-ed Coinographic about this couple of weeks ago.
Also said I, and I think other contestants also, would not mind being paid in Silver LTC coins.
No reaction...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Coinographic on January 28, 2015, 06:58:42 PM
I wanted to make a statement to update everyone on the situation with Coinographic…


Before going into an explanation I want to state clearly for the record that Coinographic was never set up as a scam.  We tried our best to start a company within the digital currency world because we believed in what we were doing and believed in Digital currency.  We worked hard to try and create a product that we believed would appeal to all.


An unfortunate chain of events has led us to a situation where we can no longer operate as a business.  Low volume sales, coupled with a large decline in the value of digital currency have left the business crippled.


Coinographic also lost its main investor at the end of November 2013.  We have tried hard to secure additional finance to keep the company alive but have failed in our attempts.


It is with great regret that I must announce we will be closing down the company.


We have no intention of leaving our customers that pre-ordered or have outstanding issues with orders out of pocket. 


Whilst we are unable to issue refunds in digital currency, we are able to issue refunds in stock from our Litecoin collection.


Over the coming days (4th February Latest) we will be implementing a form on our website that pre-ordering customers can fill out and choose the coins they would like to the value of their pre-order as a refund.


We will also have another form in place for anyone who has any missing orders, unfunded coins or any other issues.


We WILL deal with any order or issue filed with us via our web form within 48 hours.
 

It’s a very messy situation and we want to deal with things in the best way possible for all concerned.


I can’t apologise enough to everyone concerned and know first-hand what it feels like to invest hard earned digital currency in a product only for it never to appear. 


We will update this post as soon as the form is in place on our website


Thank you


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 28, 2015, 07:17:44 PM
Nice to hear from you Coinographic, and I'm very sorry for all of your problems with this unpredictable business.

However, you are talking only about preorders, and no word about promised bounties?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on January 28, 2015, 07:30:06 PM
I wanted to make a statement to update everyone on the situation with Coinographic…


Before going into an explanation I want to state clearly for the record that Coinographic was never set up as a scam.  We tried our best to start a company within the digital currency world because we believed in what we were doing and believed in Digital currency.  We worked hard to try and create a product that we believed would appeal to all.


An unfortunate chain of events has led us to a situation where we can no longer operate as a business.  Low volume sales, coupled with a large decline in the value of digital currency have left the business crippled.


Coinographic also lost its main investor at the end of November 2013.  We have tried hard to secure additional finance to keep the company alive but have failed in our attempts.


It is with great regret that I must announce we will be closing down the company.


We have no intention of leaving our customers that pre-ordered or have outstanding issues with orders out of pocket. 


Whilst we are unable to issue refunds in digital currency, we are able to issue refunds in stock from our Litecoin collection.


Over the coming days (4th February Latest) we will be implementing a form on our website that pre-ordering customers can fill out and choose the coins they would like to the value of their pre-order as a refund.


We will also have another form in place for anyone who has any missing orders, unfunded coins or any other issues.


We WILL deal with any order or issue filed with us via our web form within 48 hours.
 

It’s a very messy situation and we want to deal with things in the best way possible for all concerned.


I can’t apologise enough to everyone concerned and know first-hand what it feels like to invest hard earned digital currency in a product only for it never to appear. 


We will update this post as soon as the form is in place on our website


Thank you


Thanks for posting this.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 28, 2015, 07:59:07 PM
I wanted to make a statement to update everyone on the situation with Coinographic…


Before going into an explanation I want to state clearly for the record that Coinographic was never set up as a scam.  We tried our best to start a company within the digital currency world because we believed in what we were doing and believed in Digital currency.  We worked hard to try and create a product that we believed would appeal to all.


An unfortunate chain of events has led us to a situation where we can no longer operate as a business.  Low volume sales, coupled with a large decline in the value of digital currency have left the business crippled.


Coinographic also lost its main investor at the end of November 2013.  We have tried hard to secure additional finance to keep the company alive but have failed in our attempts.


It is with great regret that I must announce we will be closing down the company.


We have no intention of leaving our customers that pre-ordered or have outstanding issues with orders out of pocket.  


Whilst we are unable to issue refunds in digital currency, we are able to issue refunds in stock from our Litecoin collection.


Over the coming days (4th February Latest) we will be implementing a form on our website that pre-ordering customers can fill out and choose the coins they would like to the value of their pre-order as a refund.


We will also have another form in place for anyone who has any missing orders, unfunded coins or any other issues.


We WILL deal with any order or issue filed with us via our web form within 48 hours.
 

It’s a very messy situation and we want to deal with things in the best way possible for all concerned.


I can’t apologise enough to everyone concerned and know first-hand what it feels like to invest hard earned digital currency in a product only for it never to appear.  


We will update this post as soon as the form is in place on our website


Thank you


To be clear you are saying that once the we form is up, 48 hrs from then all customer issues will be resolved.
?

Curious how you plan to repay people (including design contest winners) with your litecoin silver coins? The rate at which you value them may not appeal to your customers to be compensation. But I could be wrong.

If I was expecting a 2 oz gold coin loaded with 5 BTC I wouldn't settle for say several of your litecoin silver coins.

Perhaps people who are owed can chime in on this as the layout conversion rate of the debt owed to each customer vs what you will give them in terms of your silver coins is not known yet.



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 29, 2015, 04:32:30 AM
@Coinographic I believe you should have an open dialogue with your customers. This posting once in 2-4 weeks is simply unacceptable. People have sent you money for products you do not have or have and have not shipped or have not funded. People deserve a chance to get answers directly from you publicly. This open dialogue should also consist of people suggesting what their compensation for waiting should be plus what they paid you which they are still owed.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: CryptoCobaine1 on January 29, 2015, 04:47:35 AM
So will they not be manafactured ?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 29, 2015, 09:46:49 PM
Reposting this from ltctalk.

A user had purchased coins, told they were funded, then now it appears they are not funded since Nov 2014.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=24490.0

Coinographic <admin@coinographic.com>
11/28/14

to me
Sorry for the delay – all 5 coins are now funded
 
From: Steven ---- [mailto:---@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 November 2014 21:33
To: admin@coinographic.com
Subject: Unique Shipping Number for coins received

I took this as all 5 of my25LTC bull coins being funded. dammit Im so pissed . Plus im out a 2 BTC silver coin that I pre ordered too.

Someone should make a thread on this forum and btctalk where people can compile a list of orders, unfunded coins, and unpaid bounties so that way everyone is on the same page.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 29, 2015, 10:19:02 PM
I guess the next question is how honest were they up until now...



We are expecting to ship our bitcoin collection end of Jan / Early February. Your free coins will be shipped immediately after ordering and your bitcoins will be shipped the moment they are in stock.


@Coinographic, were you lying when you posted this?

If they are supposed to be in production then they should be paid for right? Production should be paid for if they were expected to be done at end of Jan early Feb.



Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 29, 2015, 10:21:57 PM

If you have proof of your claim perhaps you may want to open a scammer accusation thread and present your facts, assuming you aren't getting any responses from them.


Smoothie having something to say about our business again?? Surprise, surprise!

Without fail you are always there to jump in and try and stir any problems you can for us...  People are not stupid and your motives are clear!

We are not going anywhere and i'm afraid you will have to put up with our competition for a long time to come. Why don't you concentrate on your own business and stay out of ours?



Were you lying about this as well?

To be clear this was concerning a user who had posted and spoken to me about their coins not being delivered/funded.

I've always welcomed competition as it is healthy for the market. But when people do shady things I have no hesitation on calling it out.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 29, 2015, 10:46:12 PM
The public was led to believe that Coinographic had already put the bitcoin designs into production long ago (since early November I believe).

If they actually did put them into production why can't they still operate their business?

If they are having people prepay before the coins get made then they should still be able to take a cut (for profit) and send the rest to the mint to have the coins made.

Not sure where they "can't" continue operation.

This should be explained by them as it is now sounding more like a ponzi type situation where they took in customer orders and robbed peter to pay paul and now they are short on funds to fill existing orders and fund coins or pay design contest bounties.

Supposedly their investor pulled out. But if the investor did that in the end of november they should have already started the 2 BTC 2 oz gold coin production so the investor would not be able to pull out completely as they have funds tied up in the company.

The way this is all transpiring is starting create more questions than it answers.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 30, 2015, 06:29:20 AM
Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.

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Send 3.54980000 BTC to address 17dEBp7zPmdN2nWo9DJiZ1aQYxHbP3b9Yc (Make sure to send enough to cover any coin transaction fees!)

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Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on January 30, 2015, 01:47:00 PM
Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.

Quote
Coinographic Ltd (100%) Log In
  
Invoice Created, Awaiting Your Payment
Your invoice is created, all that remains is to send your coins to the seller.
Thank you for using CoinPayments.net!

What now?
Send 3.54980000 BTC to address 17dEBp7zPmdN2nWo9DJiZ1aQYxHbP3b9Yc (Make sure to send enough to cover any coin transaction fees!)

Notes:
a) You will need to initiate the payment using your software or online wallet and copy/paste the address and payment amount into it. We will email you when all funds have been received.

b) You have 3 hours for us to receive confirmed funds. If you send funds that don't confirm by the timeout contact us with the information below and CoinPayments.net will send you a refund:
  i) The transaction ID: 11c27167d046c61443cecb4adbecad494a6d46b76b319b8192068a8c900e3820
  ii) A payment address to send the funds to.
  iii) This verification code: c9a2b673da27c018a7abed55b8a01a42 (to verify that you are the transaction sender).

After sending payment, review the status of your transaction on this page. Once the payment is confirmed several times in the block chain, the payment will be completed and the merchant will be notified. The confirmation process usually takes 30-45 minutes but varies based on the coin's target block time and number of block confirms required. The status page is available for the next 30 days.

Return to Seller's Website.


Yes, I checked i too.

Coinographic please change this on your website.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on January 30, 2015, 01:59:29 PM
Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.

No it's not a good thing.  Although they may say they "intend" to use these sales of existing stock to fill other orders/repay prepaid orders, it doesn't look like they are being 100% open.  If they knew their main investor pulled out months ago and it truly put the companies future at stake, operations should have been halted immediately and people should have been notified that presales may not be able to be completed or hold all preorder btc in escrow.

It also seems like its now been a game to see how long this can go, I'm starting to think the excuses (CEO was "ill", computer data loss, etc) were just made up to buy them time.

I won't go so far as to call them a scam company, as their designs that were minted looked nice, but clearly the past few months have shown they cannot handle the operations of the business.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mart9275 on January 30, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
We have no intention of leaving our customers that pre-ordered or have outstanding issues with orders out of pocket. 

Whilst we are unable to issue refunds in digital currency, we are able to issue refunds in stock from our Litecoin collection.

Hi Mark,

Martin here. I assume this goes for me as well. I hate to call you out in public like this in these sad times, but since you have been ignoring my mails for many weeks now you leave me with no choice.

So please PM or mail me ASAP.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 31, 2015, 10:30:02 PM
This is a warning to the community against buying anything from Coinographic ( http://www.coinographic.com/ ) !!!

Mark (the owner) has posted on this forum that he is closing down his company ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741) ), but he has not yet taken down his website where one can still buy his coins. It seems that he has run out of money and that he can neither deliver all the coins that people have already ordered or even just refund the money.

And as if that isn't bad enough in itself, some customers are now coming forward and saying that coins they have bought and received back in October 2014 are NOT even funded with Litecoins though Mark claimed they were!

I have done design work for Mark and he owes me money as well. I can live with that, I only lost time and my good name by putting it on the products of Marks fraudulent company. But I would hate to see people still pay and buy coins that they will clearly never receive. Damn I wish I had known that I wasn't the only person he owed money so this could have been brought to light earlier and maybe saved others from putting money in this black hole.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM COINOGRAPHIC!!!

If you have already bought and received coins from Coinographic please check to see if your coins are in fact funded or not. If not, or if you have pre-paid and not yet received anything, please report in this thread so we can start to get an idea of how much he actually owes people in the community and for how long he has been doing this.

Please post how much and for what he owes you.

I'll start. For designing and rendering he owes me:

- 1500 EUR in bitcoins
- One fully funded gold 1BTC coin (sold for 8.9978 BTC on his site)
- One fully funded silver 1BTC coin (sold for 2.4011 BTC on his site)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on January 31, 2015, 11:35:58 PM
Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.
...
That is a very very bad sign. I will have to update my trust rating based on this new information. Man, it sucks to see a company go down like this.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: iawgoM on January 31, 2015, 11:37:27 PM
This is a warning to the community against buying anything from Coinographic ( http://www.coinographic.com/ ) !!!

Mark (the owner) has posted on this forum that he is closing down his company ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741) ), but he has not yet taken down his website where one can still buy his coins. It seems that he has run out of money and that he can neither deliver all the coins that people have already ordered or even just refund the money.

And as if that isn't bad enough in itself, some customers are now coming forward and saying that coins they have bought and received back in October 2014 are NOT even funded with Litecoins though Mark claimed they were!

I have done design work for Mark and he owes me money as well. I can live with that, I only lost time and my good name by putting it on the products of Marks fraudulent company. But I would hate to see people still pay and buy coins that they will clearly never receive. Damn I wish I had known that I wasn't the only person he owed money so this could have been brought to light earlier and maybe saved others from putting money in this black hole.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM COINOGRAPHIC!!!

If you have already bought and received coins from Coinographic please check to see if your coins are in fact funded or not. If not, or if you have pre-paid and not yet received anything, please report in this thread so we can start to get an idea of how much he actually owes people in the community and for how long he has been doing this.

Please post how much and for what he owes you.

I'll start. For designing and rendering he owes me:

- 1500 EUR in bitcoins
- One fully funded gold 1BTC coin (sold for 8.9978 BTC on his site)
- One fully funded silver 1BTC coin (sold for 2.4011 BTC on his site)

Link to this thread please?


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on January 31, 2015, 11:39:59 PM
Link to this thread please?
Here you go (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942255.msg10322964#msg10322964).


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 31, 2015, 11:40:48 PM
This is a warning to the community against buying anything from Coinographic ( http://www.coinographic.com/ ) !!!

Mark (the owner) has posted on this forum that he is closing down his company ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938192.msg10291741#msg10291741) ), but he has not yet taken down his website where one can still buy his coins. It seems that he has run out of money and that he can neither deliver all the coins that people have already ordered or even just refund the money.

And as if that isn't bad enough in itself, some customers are now coming forward and saying that coins they have bought and received back in October 2014 are NOT even funded with Litecoins though Mark claimed they were!

I have done design work for Mark and he owes me money as well. I can live with that, I only lost time and my good name by putting it on the products of Marks fraudulent company. But I would hate to see people still pay and buy coins that they will clearly never receive. Damn I wish I had known that I wasn't the only person he owed money so this could have been brought to light earlier and maybe saved others from putting money in this black hole.

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM COINOGRAPHIC!!!

If you have already bought and received coins from Coinographic please check to see if your coins are in fact funded or not. If not, or if you have pre-paid and not yet received anything, please report in this thread so we can start to get an idea of how much he actually owes people in the community and for how long he has been doing this.

Please post how much and for what he owes you.

I'll start. For designing and rendering he owes me:

- 1500 EUR in bitcoins
- One fully funded gold 1BTC coin (sold for 8.9978 BTC on his site)
- One fully funded silver 1BTC coin (sold for 2.4011 BTC on his site)

Link to this thread please?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942255.msg10322964#msg10322964


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on January 31, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
Their site is still operational for taking in funds for preorders for coins they will never have...not a good thing.
...
That is a very very bad sign. I will have to update my trust rating based on this new information. Man, it sucks to see a company go down like this.

I agree. When they first started out I actually liked their approach and products...but it turned south for me from their first auction on Litecointalk.org where they handled themselves poorly.

From there it was all down hill (at least from my perspective).

The whole preorder model was also what turned me off.

Now this...


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on February 01, 2015, 05:41:56 AM
So this means that the bounty from previous contest  are not going to be paid.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on February 01, 2015, 09:00:06 AM
Guess not.  :(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on February 01, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
Guess not.  :(

Well since he's shutting down shop, he's got a legal obligation to pay off his creditors.
I guess there's an order of 'hierarchy' in who gets paid...
We'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

For those (including myself) who ordered coins that he clearly had in stock and he was able to send out without any problems but didn't, we may have a legal case against how the operations were run.

Anyway, let's just see what happens.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on February 03, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
Website still in the air, can still order coins.
Coinographic please change this.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Rickyholl on February 03, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
Design 12 gold


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on February 03, 2015, 08:55:44 PM
Design 12 gold

 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Chemist-for-hire on February 04, 2015, 10:37:17 AM
Design 12 gold

Noob in action!


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 04, 2015, 07:40:36 PM
Looks like any design contest winners will not be paid in any meaningful amount of time. You are going to be last in this mess if at all.

We have today added three forms to our website.  They can be found here - http://www.coinographic.com/support/.

For those of you that have received your Litecoin but it hasn’t been funded - we will fund these coins and ensure that all funding issues are dealt with as promptly as possible.  The reason your coin may not have been funded is either;

1) When you received your coin you didn’t send us an email with your shipping confirmation number
2) You requested your coin to be funded after the date our problems started

As funding is going to take place from my own personal funds, it may be that you have to wait up to a maximum of 14 Business days for your coin to be funded.



For those of you that have ordered a Litecoin but it has not been received. We will ensure your coins do get sent to you.  The delay is due to an outstanding bill with the hallmarking office that will be settled this week.  Once the bill is paid the coins will be released to us and we can proceed to ship.  We have also had a few coins sent back to us from the postal service where they were unable to deliver.  If this is one of your coins it will be resent ASAP once the address has been confirmed.



For anyone that ordered a coin from our Bitcoin collection - we have two options for you;

1) Receive a refund in funded coins from our Litecoin collection.  The price of these coins will be as it is currently on our website.  We already reduced the price of these coins to cost and make 0 profits on them.  I will happily disclose the invoices for our product to a trusted member of the community so that it can be verified that we do NOT make a penny on them. You can expect your coin refunds to be delivered to you within 30 days from your request.

2) Negotiate a payment plan with us so we can refund the amount of digital currency that you paid for your coins.  As with the coin funding, these payments will be coming from personal funds and as such it could take as long as 90 days for you to receive a full refund.  We do propose your refund be paid to you in three installments, with the first installment due to you within 30 days of your request.


To all competition prize winners;

Due to the situation with the company and the fact we will not be manufacturing the bitcoin collection we will be unable to pay the prizes promised.  Once we have dealt with our other outstanding issues and made things right with our customers, we will re-visit the situation and look at the possibilities of what can be done to rectify this situation.


IMPORTANT
We have had some people contact us suggesting that because the price of digital currency has fallen, they should be compensated with more digital currency when they are refunded. This is NOT possible.  The amount of Litecoin or bitcoin you paid will be the amount you are returned.  The price of digital currency is completely out of our control.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 04, 2015, 07:40:59 PM
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.


The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on February 05, 2015, 03:09:53 AM
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.


The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....

I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.





Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 05, 2015, 03:16:40 AM
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.


The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....

I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.





That is right, it is between the two of you. But I suspect this is not the case for every customer wanting the negotiation to be private.

He has said a lot of things too...and Look at where we are now.  ::)

Yes he should get a break given he is in debt to his customers who sent him funds months ago for coins he has not shipped or not funded or not created.

Yes we should all give the guy a break even though he has been dishonest to his very customers and design contest winners and his on graphic designer. ::) ::) ::)

nowhere did he say that each negotiation would be for the same % of the value of coins that were sent when orders were placed as well for each customer.

Time will tell if he is honorable and will make his customers whole.

We already know that there is a good chance his design contest winner may not be paid at all.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on February 05, 2015, 03:27:36 AM
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.


The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....

I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.





That is right, it is between the two of you. But I suspect this is not the case for every customer. Every customer who is owed funds/money etc has been asked to submit a form - if they don't do that then that is there issue

He has said a lot of things too...and Look at where we are now.  ::) Agreed

Yes he should get a break given he is in debt to his customers who sent him funds months ago for coins he has not shipped or not funded or not created.I am one of those customers, owed hundreds of LTC and many BTC - I am giving him time to put this right. I don't expect the $$$ value of the coins at the time I paid at the time, just the LTC/BTC i sent

Yes we should all give the guy a break even though he has been dishonest to his very customers and design contest winners.  ::) ::) ::)
 He could easily tell everyone that there is no money and the business is finished and that no one is getting anything, he has not done that so yes I am giving him a break - Having been in the situation in the past where a business of mine went 'bust' many years ago, costing me >$100k, I know exactly how he is feeling, the time, effort, money that has no doubt gone into CG over the last year to then have the realisation that things have fucked up.
You do everything you can to keep the business going and frequently make decisions that are most definately not the right ones, lie to people (in my case banks/creditors) in the hope that things will work out. I am sure CG know they fucked up by doing certain things but I am also sure that Mark will pay his debts, however as I found out money doesn't grow on trees and it takes time to raise funds to do so





Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Saigonsmokes on February 05, 2015, 03:45:15 AM
Waiting..... ::)

I hope you are not condoning their lying and "fuck ups".

In all seriousness Saigon I hope you get all of your coins you ordered or are refunded fully. That is what I consider most I important. Customers being made whole.

I am certainly not condoning their lying in any way, shape or form but fuck ups - sometimes we don't act in the right way when under pressure and I hope they get through this by making everyone whole.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 05, 2015, 03:49:42 AM
With edit at the bottom...

Waiting..... ::)

I hope you are not condoning their lying and "fuck ups".

In all seriousness Saigon I hope you get all of your coins you ordered or are refunded fully. That is what I consider most I important. Customers being made whole.

To be clear I do not believe in making dishonest decisions like lying to get by with life or in my business. So no I can't understand nor relate as doing the right thing should be a consistent thing and not a "pick-and-choose-when-I-want-to" thing.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 16, 2015, 09:11:41 PM
Coinographic LTD was set up in the early part of 2014 as a legitimate company for the purpose of creating unique physical crypto-currency coins.  Every effort was made to try and make the business succeed.

Over the last few months the company has struggled to generate sales and support for our products.  We have also suffered a lot from the fall in the price of digital currency as well as other issues.

As a company we had every intention of trying to resolve our issues and we have truly exhausted every avenue to try and raise capital to either make good with our existing customers or issue refunds to those of you that invested in pre-orders of our upcoming Bitcoin collection.

Unfortunately, we regret to have to announce that due to events over the last few months the company is now bankrupt and can no longer continue trading.

As a result of our liquidation we are unable to honour any outstanding orders, coin funding or pending refunds.

As of today we will no longer be able to correspond with anyone.  Our email accounts, website and telephone numbers will now be terminated.


If you wish to issue a winding-up petition (WUP) against our company you can do so from the following link - https://www.gov.uk/wind-up-a-company-that-owes-you-money/overview.

Our company information is below;
Coinographic Ltd
registration number 08773620

We are truly sorry that it has come to this and wish everyone the best for the future.


1. You started a legitimate company.

2. Now you are not going to try to honor your customers orders, preorders, funding of coins, nor pay out your design contest winners just because.

EVEN THOUGH YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE COINS IN STOCK TO TRY TO MAKE AMENDS WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS.

#1 contradicts #2 and vice versa.

And you are going to shut down your website, email, phone numbers to cut off communication with them like a wussy who was able to take funds from your customers and not give a crap about making amends with them?

Wow just wow...

RUN COINOGRAPHIC RUN!

This is pathetic.  >:(





Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 16, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
Just to be clear if Coinographic had all of the funds to refund customers, they wouldn't need 90 days to repay or even 30 days.

@Coinographic customers I encourage you all to demand a public dialogue with coinographic in how you all should be repaid equally. I suspect that if you do not some will make out better than others and in the end that would not be fair to you as their customers.

Something to think about when concerning your money.


The open dialogue gives everyone a voice in the issue of the money you sent Coinographic to be refunded.

If CUSTOMER A gets 90% refund then CUSTOMER B should get 90% refund. Not fair where one gets 90% and one gets 70% etc....

I do not want a public dialogue regarding monies that are owed - its between Coinographic and I to work out. At no point has CG said some people will get more or less than others. Has it not crossed your mind that CG may need to use their own monthly 'wages' from other business or obtain finance to refund customers - this can reasonably take a few months. Jesus, give the guy a break - he is trying to put right his mistakes and the failings in his business.





That is right, it is between the two of you. But I suspect this is not the case for every customer. Every customer who is owed funds/money etc has been asked to submit a form - if they don't do that then that is there issue

He has said a lot of things too...and Look at where we are now.  ::) Agreed

Yes he should get a break given he is in debt to his customers who sent him funds months ago for coins he has not shipped or not funded or not created.I am one of those customers, owed hundreds of LTC and many BTC - I am giving him time to put this right. I don't expect the $$$ value of the coins at the time I paid at the time, just the LTC/BTC i sent

Yes we should all give the guy a break even though he has been dishonest to his very customers and design contest winners.  ::) ::) ::)
 He could easily tell everyone that there is no money and the business is finished and that no one is getting anything, he has not done that so yes I am giving him a break - Having been in the situation in the past where a business of mine went 'bust' many years ago, costing me >$100k, I know exactly how he is feeling, the time, effort, money that has no doubt gone into CG over the last year to then have the realisation that things have fucked up.
You do everything you can to keep the business going and frequently make decisions that are most definately not the right ones, lie to people (in my case banks/creditors) in the hope that things will work out. I am sure CG know they fucked up by doing certain things but I am also sure that Mark will pay his debts, however as I found out money doesn't grow on trees and it takes time to raise funds to do so





I guess I was right in my suspicions. They should not have been given the benefit of the doubt as see my post above this one.

I feel sorry for all of the customers who lost money with CON-o-graphic.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on February 16, 2015, 09:29:58 PM
Yes they closed business and will not pay anyone anymore, and said whoever want just sue them. That's what I understand.
A waste of my time and indeed a scam and something that was not planed and with intent of ripping people off, If they were a legit company they would have taken in account the volatility of bitcoin. It's not the first time it dropped and might not be the last one, or tomorrow it could double in price, this is not a reason to blame, just a bad business. FYI check his litecointalk last message or his website to know what I'm talking about.

I already deleted all my work I made for them from all the contests. I would not suggest anyone using my images further, they are copyright material, and without my approval I will sue anybody using them.

Cheers


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on February 17, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
this is whats wrong with btc, no accountability whatsoever.  the more that people get screwed over, the less likely they are to continue using cryptocurrency in general, in my opinion.  This is a problem for most people, absolutely no consumer protection, and very few companies that are legitimately accountable or even competent to run a business.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Sarahiko on February 17, 2015, 01:58:09 PM
That`s what risk is all about, we tend to invest on something we believe will have an impact in the long run.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 17, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
LINK: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253317#msg253317


Reposting from Litecointalk.org


I wanted to post to address a couple of the issues raised and try my best to answer them;

1. We have not appointed a liquidator for the simple reason we cannot afford one.  We have posted a link so that anyone can request a wind-up order for our company. At that point a liquidator will be appointed. We have no liquidator information to post because there isn’t one as yet.


No liquidator exists because originally you put on a facade to make people think you were actually going to work with them on order refunds, coin FUNDING, and preorder refunds. Yes people should sooo take your word as truth.  ::)

2. We do have some stock but not as many as people think.  All we have in our hands are 1ltc coins.  The silver coins are being retained by the coin manufacture.  The coins we are holding will be given to a liquidator should one be appointed.  We also have a lot of boxes, holograms & proto-type coins as assets.

You supposedly made it appear on your website that you had hundreds of 25 LTC bull coins, hundreds of 10 LTC LA coins, and hundreds of 10 LTC chikun coins.

Talk about putting up an image to make you look like you are fully stocked when you really aren't.


3. We have shut everything down because we can no longer operate as a company and have exhausted all possibilities of trying to raise capital to make things right.  Neither the company nor I own a single Bitcoin or Litecoin.

Yeah so you took people's money for physical coins you SUPPOSEDLY have, SUPPOSEDLY could fund, and can't refund that money/BTC/LTC?

You are so full of crap.

4. Since we announced our problems we have not sold a single coin, we did not accept any orders that we knew we were not going to be able to fill.  

Yeah yeah sure sure. I'm sure you were not funding coins back in October because you "knew" you could fulfill all outstanding orders. Please stop with the BS.

5. Any monies received for pre-orders of the bitcoin collection were invested into the company and the production of those coins.  We paid for molds, dies, prototypes, boxes, holograms, competitions, designs, website, advertising, hosting, office costs, and internet as well as many other associated costs.  I personally invested much more of my own personal money into this project then was ever received in orders.  

Blah blah blah...more lies. Even if that is true why would you invest money into a project you only had partial funds for? That makes no sense.

Why were preorder funds used to pay for office costs, internet and other associated costs as well as website? I don't see how they are related.

I'm sure your preorder customers did not know you would use the funds to fund your BUSINESS costs and not your physical bitcoin project costs.


6. Support for our product was very low since the company started.  We have had no more then 30-40 customers since the company started last April.

Stop blaming your customer base as the reason your company went under. And stop blaming the price of Bitcoin/Litecoin for your failures.

7. We never kept any private key information.  Redeem your coins if you wish to or can’t trust that fact.

Yes as if people should believe you given all of your previous lies up until this point.  ::) ::) ::)

8. No fraud has taken place here.  Every penny received can be accounted for in costs.  We have all the paperwork and details for everything.  This is simply a case of a company running out of money and not selling enough products.

Once again if you werent selling enough products and did not have enough to produce the Bitcoin collection why did you try to keep up the facade that your company could afford to finish those coins and orders of other coins that you did not deliver/fund? Like I said, you sir are full of BS.

Yeah if you did not have enough funds to produce your bitcoin collection, why collect preorders?

Were you hoping your customer base would completely fund your projects? Like BFL?


9. I personally have no money.  My other business has also gone bust at the same time. I am struggling to put food on the table for my children.  You can DOX me (my information freely available on the net), sue me or visit my house.  It doesn’t change the fact that there is no money. I don’t own a house or any other assets personally.  If there was a way I could have sorted this out from my own money, I would have. I had/have no interest in ripping anyone off; I simply do not have any options open to me to resolve this.  Closing the company was my last point of action.

You say you have no money yet you claimed to have the ability to make people whole (at least somewhat). What was that form for if not to delay for more time?

Yeah sure your other business went bust at the same time. How convenient.

Now you are going to play the "my family doesn't have food" card? Seriously you are taking this pretty far.

10. We are not hiding any Bitcoin or Litecoin.

Where have we heard that one again???  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on February 18, 2015, 08:39:01 AM
It is a pity that crypto is full with unfulfilled promises. I have not received a total of about 3.5 BTC in various competitions and services that I have met.  >:(


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on February 18, 2015, 08:40:34 AM
It is a pity that crypto is chicken with unfulfilled promises. I have not received a total of about 3.5 BTC in various competitions and services that I have met.  >:(
This has nothing to do with crypto, but with the people you deal with and your own stupidity. They don't use escrow? Avoid them like hell. People like this can be found everywhere, no matter where you are or what you do.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Trivelius on February 18, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
It is a pity that crypto is full with unfulfilled promises. I have not received a total of about 3.5 BTC in various competitions and services that I have met.  >:(
This has nothing to do with crypto, but with the people you deal with and your own stupidity. They don't use escrow? Avoid them like hell. People like this can be found everywhere, no matter where you are or what you do.

   Tell me, Mr. Professor, how to use an escrow in a competition like this? I've never lost money, but I lost time. I guess its the same


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: thermost on February 18, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
I don't think he had any intention on paying the designers, probably just click-bait to keep his threads propped up. Feel sorry for the people who have 'bought' coins from Coinographic.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: Mitchell on February 18, 2015, 11:07:43 AM
Tell me, Mr. Professor, how to use an escrow in a competition like this? I've never lost money, but I lost time. I guess its the same
That's easy. Let the creator of the competition put the reward in escrow. That way you can still get paid even if he runs. If the creator of a competition doesn't want to do that, well, stay away.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 18, 2015, 11:15:28 AM
Here is one of the earlier posts I made concerning Coinographic where I made a strong suggestion that contest funds/prizes be put into escrow before the contest starts:

LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=693176.msg7829616#msg7829616

Quote
Quote from: smoothie on July 14, 2014, 12:34:08 AM
I would like to suggest the following given past bounties that were never paid by previous contests (i.e. Coinhoarder's Bitcoin design contest):

Send the 6 Bitcoins to an escrow so entrants are assured they (the winners) will receive the prize

I believe you have sent bounty monies to moderators on the Litecointalk forum for your previous contests. You should do the same here. Use an escrow person like say user/moderator Saltyspitoon who (last time I checked) did not charge any escrow fees.

Good luck to all of the entrants!



Quote from: Coinographic on July 14, 2014, 12:55:01 AM
We are more then happy to send the coins into escrow if the community feel its necessary.  It does create a small problem for us though...  

The first place prize is for a fully loaded coin and not the BTC directly.  If we sent the 5 BTC into escrow then it is not where it should be (on the coin).  We as a company feel that we have already done more then enough to establish our trust.  We have paid 100's of Litecoin in bounty (as you know) for our many contests on Litecointalk.  We have many people within the community who will also vouch for us.  We have always paid every single bounty or service provider we have ever used.

That being said if the community would prefer the BTC in escrow, then it is no problem for us.  I guess the 5btc could be sent to the coin address once it is received by the winner.  From our point of view as long as we can verify the 5 BTC is put onto the verified assembled coin then there would be no issue for us.

We are genuine registered company in the UK with a fixed office address.  We would also be more then willing to meet any bitcointalk member at our offices for any verification the community feel is necessary.  We are in this business for the long term and have no interest in ruining our reputation by not paying a competition bounty.  We have already invested a huge amount of money into the company - Thank you


   
Re: 6 Bitcoins & 2 Ounces of fine Gold in Bounty – Submission Deadline 31st August
QUOTE FROM SMOOTHIE July 14, 2014, 01:03:17 AM
The coin funding can easily be done by either the escrowing party or they can return the funds to you for you to personally fund the coin. There shouldn't be a problem on that front. If escrow ends up being used this should be part of the terms of them holding the bounty (where the coins will end up ultimately).

People need to be more cautious with doing deals on this forum.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 18, 2015, 11:17:16 AM
Here is another place where I suggested using escrow:

Do you accept escrow for the auction?

Curious how escrow would work if the coin is special ordered for gold and it will take at least sometime in Jan before its ready.  Will they order the coin without receiving funds to pay for the special order?  Coinographic wont see their money for at least a month, using escrow.

Well, with the problems they just had, I would feel much more confortable with escrow.

If I were to bid on this coin I would require escrow.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on February 18, 2015, 11:21:37 AM
Tell me, Mr. Professor, how to use an escrow in a competition like this? I've never lost money, but I lost time. I guess its the same
That's easy. Let the creator of the competition put the reward in escrow. That way you can still get paid even if he runs. If the creator of a competition doesn't want to do that, well, stay away.
He couldn't do that, It stated that in competition, the reward was the minted coin + the value funded on hologram. Well they could escrow the full prize but we were in no position to demand, they were very jumpy, and even the competitions were not planned well.

The fact in the end that even us as designers got screwed not just people who bought and even those who already have the minted coins the no one will give even 2 penny's for the coin beside the funded on hologram with all the fuss around Coinographic.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on February 18, 2015, 03:25:32 PM

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg253462#msg253462

1. No I don’t expect our customers to pay to wind up our business.  I simply stated that neither the company nor I could afford to do it.  The option is available should anyone wish to wind up the company

2. The 45 bull, 29 chicken and 38 LA coins that we did have in stock have now been retained and collected by the coin manufacture for outstanding invoices.   This stock was not sold and Charles Lee DID NOT buy them nor did anyone else.  We have no silver coins.

3. We had molds and dies made for all of our upcoming collection, including a prototype for the 5 BTC coin and prototype boxes for all coins.  In addition we paid for and ordered the holograms for the 5 BTC and 2btc coins.  We also paid for a surplus stock of boxes for our 25LTC and 10 LTC coins.  We also have 50 boxes for each of the 5BTC and 2 BTC coins.

4. I did not forget any of the conversations I had on the phone and I am glad you recorded them all.  At the time we were talking I had every single intention of filling all orders.  I tried all possibilities to raise additional finance to fund the company and fill all obligations ( I can also prove every avenue that was explored).  All possibilities failed.  I have all invoices and receipts for everything that has been paid.  When this is presented to the court it will account for 100% of the monies received.

5. The designer received 1000’s of euros in payment from us.  It was only the last coins he did not receive payment from us which is a total of 1500 euro. All payments made to the designer can also be proved.

7. Neither of my offices were virtual, they were both physical offices and I can also prove that we occupied those offices. All my evidence will be presented to the court when required.

8. Greg was an investor in the company.  His circumstances changed and he was no longer able to put money in to the company. Greg has not been paid back a penny and has received no money form company funds what so ever.  Delia used to work for us but we had to let her go as we could not afford her wages

9. We have never received any payment in cash, only digital currency

I have tried my best to answer as many questions as possible but it seems people have made up their mind.  Anything else will be presented in court when requested.  I will no longer post here

Is that why you keep avoiding answering the question about funding amounts paid to you for coins purchased that you had in stock that you never shipped?

You are a sorry excuse for a human being by taking people's money, making countless promises, now running away like a coward and not paying a single customer back.

Utterly pathetic.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: LitcoinCollector on February 18, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Is there not a way to combine forces and sue Coinographic, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if we stand a chance.
But this behaviour shouldn't be taken lightly.
He owes me 2,75 BTC, for the competition.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: WEBcreator on February 18, 2015, 03:33:34 PM
Tell me, Mr. Professor, how to use an escrow in a competition like this? I've never lost money, but I lost time. I guess its the same
That's easy. Let the creator of the competition put the reward in escrow. That way you can still get paid even if he runs. If the creator of a competition doesn't want to do that, well, stay away.
agree, there are tons of new way that scammer comes up with everyday now, it is best to always use escrow even if you are dealing with some reputable member or party, be safe rather than be sorry  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: jcoin200 on February 18, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Coinographic also lost its main investor at the end of November 2013.  We have tried hard to secure additional finance to keep the company alive but have failed in our attempts.

If your situation looked so dire at the end of November, why were you still trying to get preorders for not yet created coins?  Your post history shows you were taking orders on the site and here up through last month, and made no attempt to be forthright about the situation.  And if you couldn't make the coins from the last design contest, why hold another one?  Then go on saying "this will be delt with, give us some more time" etc.

Theres no way you didn't know you weren't going to be able to pay the contest bounty, or fill all the existing preorders.

You can make all the excuses you want, but that wont change the fact you acted very questionably while knowing things were going down the drain.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: MrBAU on February 18, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
Is there not a way to combine forces and sue Coinographic, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if we stand a chance.
But this behaviour shouldn't be taken lightly.
He owes me 2,75 BTC, for the competition.


Well I'm in, He owes me a bit more than 20 BTC


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on February 18, 2015, 06:06:33 PM
He owes a heck of a lot not including the prizes and bounties he promised.
He's run off and it's going to be hard getting him to pay up. I suggest you log onto litecointalk where we're trying to build a case against him.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: smoothie on April 14, 2015, 04:39:41 AM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=20417.msg263397#msg263397

UPDATE ON COINOGRAPHIC LEGAL PROCEEDINGS BY SAIGONED:

Update:

Claim History

Your claim was issued on 16/02/2015
You submitted a judgment against Mr Mark Hamilton on 10/03/2015 at 03:08:25
Your judgment against Mr Mark Hamilton was issued on 11/03/2015 at 19:19:12
You can issue a Warrant of Execution against Mr Mark Hamilton on 14/04/2015 at 14.00.00.  ;D

I will be issuing a warrant of execution this week - that will enable baliffs to enter his home, a County Court Judgement will also be applied against his credit rating.

I will be reporting this as fraud to the police once the court procedures are completed. I have evidence that our funds were not spent on manufacturing and business costs, rather Mark purchased thousands and thousands of dollars worth of Litecoin Gear shares in Oct/Nov/Dec and obviously we know what happened there. I have details of all of these transactions:)

So the funds were misappropriated, if you wish to be involved in criminal charges against Mark - please PM me. Fraud has been committed and I now have evidence.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: S4VV4S on April 14, 2015, 02:43:47 PM
I feel sorry for all the members that lost their time due to this.
This is however, the reason I did not participate in the second contest.
(Mostly because it was a battle of votes, not talent)

Mind you though, I did receive the small prize from the first one.

MrBau, I am sorry you did not get your prize.
You really deserved it - which is why I voted for you on the first one.


Title: Re: Cast Your Vote for your favourite Physical Bitcoin Designs – Ends 18th November
Post by: AT101ET on April 14, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
I feel sorry for all the members that lost their time due to this.
This is however, the reason I did not participate in the second contest.
(Mostly because it was a battle of votes, not talent)

Mind you though, I did receive the small prize from the first one.

MrBau, I am sorry you did not get your prize.
You really deserved it - which is why I voted for you on the first one.


The way he ran the competitions showed quite a few flaws in the operating of his business. I for one lost out on both the unpaid bounty from this competition as well as losing out on personal funds that were used to purchase his coins which were never delivered.