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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/meast/isis-currency/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/meast/isis-currency/index.html?hpt=hp_c2)


Sounds like they are printing their own kind of FIAT. More scamcoin. I think this is a great opportunity to show them Bitcoin and get some users from the Middle East. The anonymity and low fees are sure to be a turn on. How can we spread the word and help Bitcoin go TO THE MOON!?

Attempting to make it easier to fund terrorism so you can profit make you a terrible person

Not sure how I feel about this

Not to worry, they're never going to adopt Bitcoin. A currency predicated on a functioning high tech infrastructure isn't that great in warzones.

You're a freaking retard of the highest proportions. Why the hell would you want ISIS to use Bitcoin? Hell no they shouldn't use Bitcoin.

Stupid OP.

How do we know this news is even legit? 

I know how I feel about it. Keep ISIS as far away from Bitcoin as possible!

Hey everybody lets spread the news of Btc to terrorist! It will surely pad our portfolios.........Unbelievable.

Are you out of your f'n mind???  Why would you want bitcoin associated with the "currency of choice" of a radical terrorist group??? It's hard enough to get people to accept the idea of Bitcoin without that stigma tied to it.

Of course you're right.  But its a sentiment all too absent in these circles unfortunately.  

To the rest of you:  Are you really shocked?   75% of the people in Bitcoin circles hate authority, and go out of their way to defend systems like Silk Road where you can buy contracts on people's assassinations.  What's the difference?   Oops ... what's that?  You only support people's right to take drugs if they want?  Thats nice.  You also turn a blind eye to the murder for hires and other things going on.  I mean heyyyyy ... freedom is freedom right?  Can't shut down silk road just because of a few bad apples.  Anarchists don't believe in a right or wrong.  They only believe in "freedom to do whatever you want".  And fuck all authority.  Because apparently corruption only comes from people in power.  Never from regular folks.  So only give rules to those in power.  Let the rest of us do whatever we want.  That includes ISIS.  

If they dont include ISIS, then they contradict themselves.  Thereby admitting that their own worldview is fucking ludicrous.

-B-

Are you joking, as soon as the headlines "ISIS now using bitcoin" gets thrown around a bit just watch the price start falling.

Exactly!

Wow you people sound like the Banksters, hypocrites all of you. Bitcoin is neutral. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

"Fuck the Government, Bitcoin is for all! Except ISIS you're on the naughty list." Slippery slope.

Wow, this is impressive!

It means they are much more than the average terrorist organization. They don't believe in foreign paper money so they will mint their own proprietary metal coins. Did I read out of gold? Boy, ISIS is going back to the gold standard! They might become hugely successful if they do that.

And watch every legitimate service institute tougher KYC requirements to try to avoid being investigated for aiding terrorism financing, which is part of the overarching AML framework.

OP has proven themselves an idiot by referring to Bitcoin as "anonymous" anyway.

Ideologically, OP might be correct.  Bitcoin is a protocol and neutral in and of itself.  However, encouraging it's use by groups which are generally reviled even by libertarians and cryptoanarchists has a price.  If it's successfully used to finance terrorism then it comes under increasing government scrutiny and measures will be put in place to make it harder to use for "acceptable" crimes or legitimate commerce.  If it becomes too cumbersome to use legitimately, there's no net benefit for regular Bitcoiners.  

Governments will throw a hell of a lot more resources at combating the use of Bitcoin to finance terrorism than they have at it's role in the darknet markets.  Even the darknet markets themselves are in favour of "cleaning up" the markets in the wake of increasing prosecutions for CP centred on onion sites.  Additional heat is the last thing Bitcoin or the darknet markets need.

Something which maintains a public ledger of every transaction isn't the ideal way of funding terrorism, either.

Lol you want Isis to use btc? That's only going to build to the myth that bitcoin is used by druggies and terorists

ISIS using bitcoin would almost definitely destroy all of our hope of bitcoin ever succeeding.

I will buy this.

Trust me, they rather behead OP than care which money they use.

Also, OP is now under investigation from the FBI. Good job, OP. And there's two reasons for that.

1. He seems to want them to use Bitcoin.
2. He calls them "freedom fighters" which is what they are not, they are pro-slavery and anti-science and want our heads on spikes.

yeah, the least attention from people like ISIS (and the forces that oppose them) the better. Bitcoin's core philosophy is about empowerment, NOT oppression (ISIS)

If OP wants to help ISIS he should go over there and put "boots to the ground" I give him about 45 mins in the warm embrace of ISIS before he comes pleading to be let back into USA.

OP is trollin'

WOW - You really are extremely low and a very sad individual. You wrote with without any thought other than making a buck to satisfy your own despicable greed. Not a hint of morals, empathy, or honour in your entire body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsQf2O8qeI
This is where he is going - NSFW

Yes you won't need to be paying any taxes where you will be going, OP.    ;)

Sell all your bitcoins for IScoin now  ;D

Fuck ISIS, that's all there is to say really, I say we should donate Bitcoin to the PKK so they can have more resources to fight them, the fact though that even ISIS refuses to use the dollar says something lol.

That's the Kurdistan Worker's Party for you uninformed individuals, they're allies of the Kurdish government and fight against ISIS and Turkey.

It would be bad press but ISIS is probably not much worse than a lot of what the USA has done.

The OP is ridiculous and should exit the bitcoin community immediately.

Pretty much.
The second ISIS publically uses BTC, ever state in the U.S. will begin proposing the same Ludacris restrictions we're seeing in New York. It'll turn off all potential new adopters. Not much else could make BTC more obscure.

I thought that the Internet was originally created for/by the US military for redundancy in unstable areas such as war zones.  I might be wrong though.

In any case, OP is an idiot.

The only members of ISIS that would be able to understand the technology enough to use Bitcoin are the CIA agents.

This reminds me of something I heard somewhere once:

If the fascists hold a demonstration and the communists hold a counterdemonstration, you shouldn't pick a side. You should hope for a meteor strike.

PS: I read the OP as being a joke. I seriously doubt anyone here is hoping ISIS takes up bitcoin.

We don't want ISIS to use bitcoin, their touch is toxic. They would kill bitcoin. Mind you, they could be using bitcoin already.

lol yeah, that's usually my default position when two stupid sides take part in a war and try to drag everyone else in it, but in this case I do support anyone who takes on the women enslaving, men beheading, god worshipping fascists :P

What the hell makes you think medieval lunatics are going to be willing to use Bitcoin, much less able to?  They take being anti-science to a whole new level, are destroying textbooks containing "haram" concepts like that the earth is round, evolution, etc.

And then there's the whole murdering people thing. 

How is minting coins in gold, silver, and copper fiat money? Sounds like the exact opposite to me.

And convincing ISIS to adopt bitcoin is literally the worst idea I've ever heard with relation to Bitcoin. Congratulations.

Lol. What if isis makes its own fiat? No one will accept it

They are planing to implement Islamic dinar currency (with gold and silver coins):

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9859771.ece/alternates/w620/Dinar.jpg

do they even have enough gold to make coins? I dont think so

I also thought, this thread would give me some good laugh, but then everybody starting talking dead serious  :-\

I've read it all now.

Really?  ISIS?

Motorcycle gangs, clansmen, terrorists and druglords.  We're ready to serve you.

if isis lasts for another 1,000 years they wont manage to kill as many as zionist/american imperialism has but none of you have a prolem using the dollar, fuck moralising hypocrites, terrorists using btc would be great for the price

Worst idea ever, you should think before posting and just delete this thread...  also its close to 2015 screaming "moon" doesnt help the coin rise anymore it does the opposite now actually

This. OP is what killing bitcoin. Just speculators trying to pump it at all costs. Im ok with people buying weed off Silk Road and whatnot but this is fucking ridiculous.

Maybe we don't have to...after all this is bitcoin we are talking about. Every coin that has tried to outran BTC, ran out of gas...I am pretty sure they will too. Then they will come crawling back to BTC. 8)

Odd as it may be, the use of BTC in an underground economy actually proved its resilience.

I think we can live without use by terrorists, though.  That will come soon enough anyway.

Yeah op is a retarded troll and should be ignored

The problem now is that some journalist will now conjure up an article about the Bitcoin community supporting ISIS or whatnot, completely warping the reality of what actually is happening.

They NSA would love that, wouldn't they?  It's  the perfect opportunity to go after people running Bitcoin nodes.

100 % not agree , bitcoin will die for sure if they use it.
Bitcoin will be banned hard in all country in the world.

+1

I'm quite sure there is no way that the blockchain is halal to IS standards with the things already written in there.

Edit: (to leave no doubts: fortunately so.)

Don't give them ideas!! They love this stuff. You are adding two nuclear bombs... ISIS and Bitcoin..... boom!! You get the readership of both!

Agreed.

How can we convince to use Bitcoin?? This morrons lives in middle age. They still believe that there is someone above their heads to rule them like puppets and you want to convince them to use a new technology? What a crap.. :P

ISIS is just another oppressive state government. I'd rather statists ignore Bitcoin and just let free people trade freely.

I heard they're going with a gold-backed currency. I won't be very surprised if ISIS discovers Bitcoin and decides to use it on their own, but let's not give them any ideas. We don't need people like the ISIS scum tarnishing Bitcoin's image more than it already is.

ISIS already has their own banks - don't do they everything through Dubai and Kuwait and so on?

Just as silly as saying ISIS couldn't sell oil to anybody but guess what they're selling to the Turks and Chinese for $$$$

Hopefully they all die instantly from trying to create their own currency.

Maybe I'll start re-lubing my miners fans with bacon grease.

With your logic whatever they use now should be banned worldwide, probably dollar.

Well this is Bitcoin after all, you can choose to not accept any coins funding terrorism there by limiting it's economy. The miners too can choose to not process transactions... the 51% rule abides there too. If the Network doesn't want it, It ain't gonna happen.

How would the miners know which bitcoin transactions are being used to fund terrorism?

Good old fashioned investigation. It would just take one government demanding it's businesses to subscribe to their blacklist and it would be done automatically. It could even be implemented by companies to segregate their Blockchain network.

the miners could be made to comply as well, a full p2p network mining protocol would prevent this since 99% of the network would have to agree to exclude certain transactions.

Would you mind explaining the "segregate their Blockchain network" thing a little deeper for me? I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around it.

Guess this is how they will launder all the Turkish gold they are trading for oil.  ???

I understand how it would be cool to own one of these. But an American could be charged with providing material support if they bought one.

And if they do it, all the Bitcoin they have instantly becomes worthless.  It would effectively be outlawing Bitcoin, because fungibility is necessary for functionality.  It would be like scanning all cash money at the bank for drug residue, and immediately removing such money from circulation, without compensating its owner.

And guns, and oil ... :D

Sure enough the Holy Quran defines what real money is; even a bad organization can have good ideas. "satanic usury", brilliant  ;D

Well almost every single dollar bill (not just the 1 dollar bill but also every other denomination) has some level of drug residue on it.

jdbtracker's "proposal" would also be impossible to implement as the miners do not have any control over the transactions included in previous blocks so it would only take one miner that confirms one block that would contain a transaction with inputs of a "terrorist" address to negate such a blacklist. Also the fact that much of Bitcoin is automated, there is a very good chance that someone would have bought the bitcoin from an address on such a blacklist, making the terrorist enriched while some random person holding the bag

Pretty soon we'll be hearing, "Only terrorists buy or use gold and silver coins..."    :D

so now ISIS has a more honest monetary system than the rest of the world, how low we have sunk...

Look at this guys history and you will quickly see that he is a troll who hates bitcoin.

He is not worth your breath or time and should just be ignored.

I enjoy valid and educated criticisms of Bitcoin (yes, Bitcoin has many flaws) but will refuse to entertain people with dishonest motivations.

ISIS live in a world reminiscent of 500 BC, or older. They are planning to mint coins and print paper money, its all thier caveman brains can understand.

If they do make a crypto, it will not flourish, they do not have enough supporters. If they mint actual metal coins...many collectors will want one if not a set. This alone could be very profitable for them.

Mostly I believe ISIS to be very much full of crap. They spend most of thier time trying to make themselves look bigger and stronger than they are. Stunts like beheading videos and such are obvious efforts to make themselves look big.

True they have a lot of oil to sell and friends in russia, but the rest of the world is closing in, they will be crushed. They only exist in the form they do now because they are useful in the Imperialist USA agenda.

Still want an ISIS penny tho

This forum is so full of lol. Exactly how do you plan on telling Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi that Bitcoin is better than his gold coins? Do you have his email address?

BTW: If any one group using Bitcoin is enough to hurt Bitcoin then it's dead already. I don't care if they use it or they don't use it any more than I care if they use dollars which they most certainly do.

As a coin collecter, I kinda want some ISIS coins...

_{...I guess that's weird. Nevermind.}

exactly!!! I have some old Adolph Hitler stamps. Creepy, but hella valuable, and a "curiosity" for the collector. There's going to be a lot more ISIS coins on the market than old Hitler stamps, and the collectors will line up to get them. However, kind of like "Special Collector's Editions" of anything, too many people buy some and put in storage immediately, causing them to not become very rare.

I'd rather have this shirt
https://actjonesboroar.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/9-11-shirt1.jpg
Tasteless yes, but I really want it!!!!

Well that is normal. From a collectors point of view, it is okay to get some of these 'coins'.
As a normal user, or Bitcoin supporter, one should be staying away from it.

That's my point.  If BTC exists long enough, every unit of currency will eventually have some taint to it.  It will have been swindled from someone, used to buy drugs or other contraband, spent by terrorists, etc.  So a scheme of simply taking such money out of circulation is foolishness.

I don't giva flying fart about who is using Bitcoins. Same with any other money format it will be used for good and for bad at the same time. Get over it.

Do you think every terrorist in ISIS can access internet.
And i think they better make their own fiat / crypto currency

Maybe like ISIS money / ISIS Coin ?

pretty dumb thought

Make their own crypto with what?  How many terahashes do you think a camel can do?

Ahahahah!!!
Really really ma le me rotfl

If they actually mint gold and silver coins counterfeits will be all over ebay sold out of Turkey to collectors so prepare for a flood of scams. Everybody is going to want to collect them

And just like that, I think your a terrorist.  :(

Probably none. However they probably have some level of money they could potentially use to rent mining capacity if they wanted to in order to maintain a network for their terror coin

Get rid of tv!

Yea, that's the best way to stop their propagandas and influence on media and you.

And the internet.  Imagine if they had internet or CNN during WW2?   :D

Might be brutally honest, although it can be curiosity-entertaining, the news all the way in the Middle East is often not relevant to your typical life in America.  Sure if somebody blocked the Gulf of Persia then we'll return to horses or buy electrical cars but otherwise don't wake me up until they're beheading people across the street from me.

You are a terrible person.. If ISIS filth start using BTC, then you can say goodbye to the price.

Gold coins in use on their territory, would take away large parts of their power, so they probably do not want that. Either they say they want to do it to gain some support, or the story is desinformation directed at the international audience.

They probably want a fiat currency, there is nothing for them to steal from a gold system.

That won't happen, we'll just steal all their Bitcoin because their security will be shit :D

Wow...5 pages of people not agreeing/being offended by OP.

And the troll trophy award goes to....

Ron Paul must read this.

I would somewhat doubt their security would be shit. They would most likely actually keep most of their computers offline until they actually need/want to push a TX to the network as they would not want to be tracked by the US military as there are very few internet connections in Iraq

He may be a terrible person, but if anything, use in a hostile operating environment by a group like ISIS would show its resilience.  And you don't get many more hostile operating environments than the one ISIS would be using it in.

I agree it shouldn't be encouraged, though.  It'll either happen or it won't.  Scum are going to flock to anything they see as untraceable and secure for their villainy, just like paper money.

But it gets cold in the desert at night this time of year right, maybe they could use some alpaca socks.

Yes makes alot of sense to promote Bitcoin to them, seriously? to the moon? or to an early grave when laws are past to destroy bitcoin, wake up sweetheart

BTC would probably be a inferior choice to cash, anyway.  It's arguably easier to track where BTC goes than cash, or to shuffle it around in silence.

Yes, they should use Monero instead.

hahah just ask the US government

lol.  sad but true.

We all know how Isis is being funded and its good old dolla dolla bill yallz....
Ffs people... Fool me once..... Fooled me you can't get fooled again!!!

i hope ISIS not adopt bitcoin as their currency.
I think when ISIS adopt bitcoin much people will not believe bitcoin any more and then leave bitcoin.

Most altcons (monero included) have too small of a trading volume for the ISIS to effectively be able to deal with as (I assume) they would want to deal in large enough quantities that would cause large movements in the market to be able to tell when they are buying or selling

Though it would be quite fun to make an ISIScoin crypto, get a load of radicals to buy into it, thinking they are funding ISIS, then dump the sucker through the floor.

There is no discussion here.

It is one troll saying "derp derp!?"

And EVERYONE else saying "WTF?"

Many trolls are learning form this thread about how to start a classic troll thread.

IS receives it's funding from several sources. Initially most of the money came from wealthy patrons in gulf states and from unwitting charitable donations. Once they started winning on the battlefield they developed new revenue from looting antiquities and eventually from selling oil at captured refineries. They also sell slaves and captured military equipment.

The oil is sold in Turkey for gold using intermediaries in the gulf and even to Assad's regime. I think that is why the Caliphate is going with gold coins. Of course, they also will practice Islamic banking. They will not allow loans (usury), as it is a sin in Islam. It used to be a sin in Christianity also, but so did all sorts of things we do everyday. Christians just ignore many of their Gods laws now.

What can we do about it? Hmmm. if I were a player in the CIA I would start printing identical gold plated coins. I would insert millions of them into the region and destroy the trust that one must have using gold coins. If you can't prove a coin is gold then you are a lot less likely to accept it.

EDIT: Hey next time I'm in the area I'll see if I can get a wax impression of one of these coins! Maybe I'll make some phony ones for fun? I think that is legal? I'll be there in a few months.

You forgot the kidnapping business. They also have a worldwide support from avarage people. Some "activists" robbed Churches and Schools in Germany to send the funds to ISIS for instance.

Fly to their territory with a flip chart and some presentation packs, barge into the local mosque, introduce yourself and hope for the best. Should be fun.

You guys are fucking idiots.


In other news.... Earth supplies ISIS with food, water and air.... so let's boycott the earth! Bitcoin is a decentralized system that anyone can use. Just like air and the internet... it is there, no one owns it, and anyone can use it. This is what makes it great, and also why criminals are attracted to it.

Bitcoin used to be only associated with Silk Road before people realized that it's much more than shady internet currency for drugs and illegal activities.

We might even get to see you in a video!  *nudge nudge wink wink*

Now now, he's excited enough about these guys already, he'd about lose his head if they made him a star on liveleak.

Lol...thats the first thing that came to my mind after reading the headline...! I think it BTC can only receive negative publicity if ISIS start using them.!! N in anyways they have their own agendas for releasing a new currency..n somehow I dont see them as ppl really keen on technology other than weaponry..! no way they use BTC's..!! :p

Um. I would rather ISIS use bitcoin than the US government...

Truthfully I would prefer both but I got a good laugh out of "We don't want the little governments fighting for land to use Bitcoin" compared to asking permission from the big governments that already have land

Then you're one retarded Motherfucker. ISIS publicly using Bitcoin will be the End of Bitcoin(Price and Adoption Wise).

I don't care.

His as the sole zymattenimen.  It's as his sole zymanattenimen it's a word.  Beware as the Buddha trusts, but not His goal.

You're a fucking muppet!

I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSED. RETHINK YOUR LIFE. COME BACK.

There might be alot of evil people and tyrans out in the middle east, but the isis state is a completely faschistic organisation using old cultural symbols of a religion comparable to the regime of North Korea. Its using its power to get into space, where fallen tyrans had their playground.

I dont think they are building fibre lines there. Just giving bread and water to people left without structure of a state (infrastructere like canalisation,roads,parks,schools,libraries,civic center,public transport,hospital,insurance,banking etc....), left in chaos.

Air, food, water or BTC, these guys should be prevented to use any and each! The fact that they use BTC is indeed irrelevant. (or should be)

you can control within the blockchain the coins that you process, buy 1 bitcoin divide it into a thousand pieces and internally within the business mark it as worth 10,000 dollars. This is good to do between company divisions, so no one starts asking the IT department for outlandish requests or the Engineering department for that matter. Just internal accounting audits. only the coins marked by the company are valid to have that value.

 All the coins have the same source, the original coin, so it's progression and movement can be tracked to see how costs move through the corporation and how effective they are at maximizing their budget internally. Once in a while you may lose a couple fragments(employees using it to purchase snacks accidentally) but it will be invalidated immediately since the companies blockchain explorer will notice the discrepancy and inform that the coin has gone out of network circulation( it has gone to a non approved payment address.)

This can be further enhanced using a side-chain that updates the blockchain every so many transactions... there by giving the company a gap to reverse any transactions that have occurred with-in their network before it becomes permanently transcribed in the main Bitcoin ledger.

In this system, original, freshly created coins are immeasurably more valuable than used coins.

This is just silly. Another attack on crypto currency and bitcoins. Does noone care about the trillions of dollars that is poured into wrongful deals/wars/manufacturing....and they care about a currency that has a market cap of ~5 billion dollars at the moment?!?! Seriously?

I have an excellent solution! Stop bloody selling weapons and arms to these people, first of all, secondly shutdown the federal reserve. That should automatically solve a lot of these issues.

I agree, Bitcoin would be a terrible choice for terrorism. If everyone started using Bitcoin's ledger all the arms companies would be accountable, their smart property equipped weapons would leave a paper trail every time a gun was found in the hands of terrorists. As a matter of fact we could in essence figure out the exact proportion of weapons within a particular faction, including capability.

The drug trade funding routes would leave trails everywhere marking which ones are funding terrorism or equipping violent groups with supplies instead of upholding individuals freedom of experience. They could circumvent this with side-chains, but the original address would still be exposed eventually giving away the exact economic momentum of the group.

and by the way... the ledger is public. Public accounting of any and all groups.

If company A has it's own sidechain and you know it's value is pegged 10x the going rate of Bitcoin, you'll know something is up if their output is lower or higher than expected.

When they get more control, they will relax the beheadings and the stealing, and give people more freedom to produce resources for them. Exactly like your own government did. Trace it back in history.

In a few years, they will become member of the UN and make trade agreements all around, may be also spying agreements, agreements to make absolutely sure that everyone is taxed at least once, and agreements to be able to exclude someone from the payment system. They might also be given some money to kill off some common enemies.

Were you born retarded or did you just not learn what FIAT is?

If they do consider gold coins (you don't know, the desinformation fog is thick), the reason could be that they expect an attack on a paper money system, consisting of a competing gang of thugs printing false notes and spread them, draining resources from the country and sending the fiat into hyperinflation. It has been done.

Minting gold coins and spread them in the IS would not work, the extra coins would be just as good as the islamic coins. Making coins that looks like gold is not easy, and can be detected by anyone.

I think such an effort would work to dramatically hurt the utility of their coins. What they are issuing is a gold standard coin. It's value is based on it's commodity value and not determined like a fiat currency. That means that a fake coin does not contain the value the user expects.
While there are always ways to spot a counterfeit coin, it could be made difficult in a practical sense. The idea is to get shop owners, etc. to favor other currencies and not trust IS coins. That suppresses the value and reduces the income for the issuing authority. It would be a big operation however, and there are a lot of problems to getting them in circulation.

Reversing the subject, I guess the best way to convince ISIS not to use BTC would be to let them believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is a CIA agent. Let's keep trolling about that. Is this true that Satoshi has moved? I've been told he works for the NSA, now.

I'm not sure that would stop them. I seem to remember the NSA has some connection to the US dollar. I also heard even Saddam Hussein had a few dollars in reserve.

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/26/once-thought-lost-and-now-found-6-billion/

I was actually trolling, but god damn I knew at least 1 person would agree that was actually a good idea (hint: its fucking terrible).

They don't have to forge any, just put the word out they or a vast amount of fakes made out of ex projectile DU and brass, to poison you if you try biting one, or to irradiate your nuts when they're in your pocket and sterilise you.

Well, this can happen with paper money, but not with gold coins, exactly because the gold coins will be valuable whatever amount is dumped. Excess gold money will just make them stronger, enabling them to buy more guns.

Nah, couldn't work.

Thank god, reading your OP made me breathe fire...

i'll gave 0.01 btc for o1ne ISIS

I hope they use their new equipment just like this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hF-5DY6kTU

Maybe I'm not being clear. The coins I would dump are gold plated and maybe worth a few bucks each. It would be hard to distinguish from the solid gold coins they are planning on issuing. It is not knowing which coins are real that would hurt adoption of IS coins.

i really think this could be a good opportunity for BTC, seems like it would be a good argument for a developing nation starting fresh, pitch them they could have a whole banking/finacial system set up overnight once they impose the law

"Seems like" your comment history and redhawk979's comment history are remarkably similar and appear to consist of a mix of trolling, fear mongering and shit-alt pumping.
 
I am surprised fallling hasn't bumped this troll thread yet.

I think we should convince ISIS to use your BitShit coin.


Anyway, like I said, there is no way that a public ledger where anyone can write any text for all to see will ever be used by any fundamentalist religious group nor any fascist state (inb4 "all states are fascist": still valid even if you think that).

Yeah I know about that, that's why I like bitcoin.
But, when the ISIS adopt bitcoin maybe there are people would not trust in bitcoin anymore.

If you think it is that easy, ok.

Write "Muhammed is a motherfucker" into the blockchain and you are safe.

Maybe? it has been done many times before. Iran, for example, has Americas old printing presses and tries counterfeiting vast sums to buy things and de-value the dollar. The British tried it against America during the revolution. The Nazi's tried it against the British in WW2.


lol, bloody brilliant.

A weakness of a group like them are their superstitious beliefs.  If you curse the blockchain with blasphemous remarks they may stay away from it.

Or DDoS it, or other bitcoin sites, because you know we haven't had any really really good ones lately, that last days, like they used to.

So are we trying to fund terrorism? This is just going to help them do more illegal things xD.

We are talking about gold coins here, and fake gold coins. Not easy.

Excellent!
You'd have to advertise it a bit, but it looks like fair game, love it!

I HAVE NOT READ ANYBODY ELSE'S RESPONSE IN THIS THREAD BUT LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA.

why moderator stop this thread?????

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

it makes no sense to continue to talk about these things ... especially here !!!

It depends. It would be very hard to fool a jeweler, but a gold colored coin is enough to disrupt a lot of transactions. You can easily electroplate a copper coin with a little zinc then heat treat it and turn it gold (brass really).

Ideas are not censored here. Supplying IS with bitcoin or buying one of their coins is material support. Talking about their plans to make coins is not.

US government and bank will do the advertising for us.

The fact the bitcoin is the face of crypto currencies is enough for making BTC known to people.

Maybe middle east is not interested on btc.
Just an oppinion though.

Yeah, Isis is that powerful.

You know, people in Isis breathe air and use USD too. Must be the end of breathing and USD. Hey, I heard some of those guys got their hands on some water... I think we're in trouble.

Mods please lock this thread. The OP and his sympathizers are complete idiots, this does nothing but harm the coin.

People like this will burn BTC to the ground.

That was quick!

How does that has anything to do with BTC

How come this thread is still not deleted?

they should call it BIN LADEN COIN lol

Because they don't delete meaningless drivel here if it's on topic. Worthless turd threads will go on for dozens of pages. Important announcements make it for a few pages. Absolutely critical information on topic about Bitcoin core usually one page. Two if a troll posts in the thread.

This is my only thought for Isis and morons like them

Kurdish Female Fighters of Kurdistan fighting ISIS Islamist terrorists in Kobani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7a0WlBQ8kw#t=198

The ISIS coin has already been proven to be lies. Just like the whole Sony/N Korea thing will be exposed as very soon. A publicity stunt.

I think we should do the opposite to recommend bitcoin for bad actions

Bitcoin is MUCH better to recommend to the people suffering under the ISIS scum, who have ruined every economy they've touched, causing people in Iraq to flee the dinar in fears that ISIS is going to replace it with their own scam currency.

From this BBC story (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29600573).




Wouldn't it be nice if they had BTC to flee to?

Lol ISIS using their own coin this just seems a little funny to me to be honest.

The principles behind that of ISIS and the cypherpunk movement that gave rise to cryptocurrency are diametrically opposed. Bitcoin and its descendants are founded on the principles of decentralization, openness, transparency, personal and financial freedom and independence (i.e. "be your own bank"), and most importantly the rejection of centralized authorities - i.e. the "State" part of "Islamic State". I wouldn't be surprised if ISIS uses Bitcoin in an opportunistic sense as a means to transfer wealth across borders and away from the prying eyes of governments but to think that they would fully embrace Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency as their national currency is IMHO a step too far.

These are people who basically believe science is Satanic Western propaganda.  They are literally too stupid to run water filtration plants so areas under their control are infested with cholera and other water-borne diseases.  Usually, the lights go out soon after they take over because they are also too stupid to run electric power generation.  The idea of them successfully using computers is pretty ludicrous, much less using cryptocurrencies, which they would probably also view as demonic.

Bitcoin already has too many accusations of being terrorist linked. We don't need feed them with stuff like this topic

Bitcoin has only one thing stopping mass adoption. People need to acquiesce and join the ranks of the lunatic schemers currently using it.

Annnd, yep.

Sony has released the movie and nothing major is happening due to it's release..

Don't want ISIS using bitcoin? Simple, embed a few messages in the blockchain that say "The Prophet Mohammad loves CP" or something similar. They'll never touch it.

You want to help ISIS fund their terror with Bitcoin?!?! Are you a working with them, one of their terrorists?

If you're helping criminals fund their crimes, you are also a criminal. And if you want an easy way to destroy Bitcoin's reputation with the masses, get it associated with the largest terrorism group in the world...no one will want to use the "currency of criminals."

Maybe they should be encouraged to use one of the 953 flavours of shitty alts out there, and help wipe them off the scene.

So when you use the western banking system (petrodollars) you are funding genocide on a mass scale with WAR WAR WAR for the rest of our lives?
I am no ISIS sympathizer (mainly because they are covertly funded by USA/ISRAEL), in fact I am atheirst and all religion can go to hell (Irony?) buit to accuse someone who happens to live in the part of the world constantly attacked by western powers as terrorist is the ultimate hypocracy.
We all love bitcoin right? imagine if instead of the corrupt banking system we had bitcoin all these decades. There would be very low chance of ISIS/ISIL/MOSSAD/MI5/MI6/NSA (same shit)  in the first place.
Pull your head out of ur ass and stop watching BBC/CNN/FOX whatever

Wow, my first post. It took idiocy to make me register. Hope your happy ;)

Welcome to the forum. I think you're making some really broad generalizations here which are more than unfair when compared to ISIS.

So you're saying that if I use a western bank i'm funding genocide and war? What bank in the world has funded genocide or declared war (seriously, i'm not aware of one that's directly done either of these things)? And why do you assume I bank with that bank?

By your logic, anyone who drives a car or uses plastic supports wars for oil. By your logic, anyone who drinks Russian vodka, smokes a cuban cigar, or eats at a Chinese restaurant supports Communism. By your logic, anyone that does business in Amsterdam supports prostitution. By your logic, anyone who travels to the Middle East supports Islamic extremists. By your logic, anyone that vacations in Colombia supports cocaine use.

What may be worse is that you're comparing the SOMETIMES hypocritical, (I absolutely admit) not-peaceful, not idealistic actions of a Western government with an organization that believes that beheading ANYONE who doesn't believe their ideology, ignoring education and science, and oppressing women is right and just...as if they're similar. ISIS kills you if you don't believe everything they believe in. The US, for example, allows you to shout whatever you believe from the streets, lawfully, if you so desire.

To call western governments and ISIS similar is incredibly naive and deliberately ignoring the facts.

It's ironic that you're an atheist because you have to take a huge leap of faith to believe the connections you're trying to make.

LOL
ISIS will die if we send a transaction to their wallet with this message.

What bank funds war? Are you serious? Do you by any chance live in the US?
http[Suspicious link removed]cutive-resigns-senate
http://www.waronwant.org/past-campaigns/banking-funding-the-arms-trade
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/all-wars-are-bankers-wars/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/07/16/hsbc-helped-terrorists-iran-mexican-drug-cartels-launder-money-senate-report-says/

Many big American banks funded the Nazis.

The BBC reported in 1998:

    Barclays Bank has agreed to pay $3.6m to Jews whose assets were seized from French branches of the British-based bank during World War II.

    ***

    Chase Manhattan Bank, which has acknowledged seizing about 100 accounts held by Jews in its Paris branch during World War II ….”Recently unclassified reports from the US Treasury about the activities of Chase in Paris in the 1940s indicate that the local branch worked “in close collaboration with the German authorities” in freezing Jewish assets.

The New York Daily News noted the same year:

    The relationship between Chase and the Nazis apparently was so cozy that Carlos Niedermann, the Chase branch chief in Paris, wrote his supervisor in Manhattan that the bank enjoyed “very special esteem” with top German officials and “a rapid expansion of deposits,” according to Newsweek.

    Niedermann’s letter was written in May 1942 five months after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the U.S. also went to war with Germany.

The BBC reported in 1999:

    A French government commission, investigating the seizure of Jewish bank accounts during the Second World War, says five American banks Chase Manhattan, J.P Morgan, Guaranty Trust Co. of New York, Bank of the City of New York and American Express had taken part.

    It says their Paris branches handed over to the Nazi occupiers about one-hundred such accounts.

One of Britain’s main newspapers – the Guardian – reported in 2004:

    George Bush’s grandfather [and George H.W. Bush’s father], the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

    His business dealings … continued until his company’s assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act

    ***

    The documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen’s US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

    ***

    Bush was a founding member of the bank [UBC] … The bank was set up by Harriman and Bush’s father-in-law to provide a US bank for the Thyssens, Germany’s most powerful industrial family.

    ***

    By the late 1930s, Brown Brothers Harriman, which claimed to be the world’s largest private investment bank, and UBC had bought and shipped millions of dollars of gold, fuel, steel, coal and US treasury bonds to Germany, both feeding and financing Hitler’s build-up to war.

    Between 1931 and 1933 UBC bought more than $8m worth of gold, of which $3m was shipped abroad. According to documents seen by the Guardian, after UBC was set up it transferred $2m to BBH accounts and between 1924 and 1940 the assets of UBC hovered around $3m, dropping to $1m only on a few occasions.

    ***

    UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler’s rise to power.

Seriously, I mean I would have read the rest of your comment but when your first question was which bank has funded a war I guess there is no point in carrying on. Educate yourself if you like, my point was exactly your point. just because someone wants to use bitcoin in a region dominated by CIASIS lunatics does not mean they are a terrorist. Much like I who bank with HSBC am not a Mexican drug lord!!!

I would say that you are probably right. If ISIS makes/uses their own shitcoin that is associated with terrorism then anyone dealing in such coin would be labeled a terrorist by the government and as a result it will have no value. Since it would have no value, ISIS would have wasted money on development, mining ect on the coins that does nothing for them. 

I would not want to be part of making them use btc. It is terrible to make others profit off of one doing terrible things.

If ISIS made a Coin....

No exchange would trade it since it funds terrorism and depending on the country, the exchange could be shut down

Mining pools and people would attack the Coin

It's value would be 0

Yeah I agree people would do everything they could to destroy the coin. Although they might not need an exchange since it is their currency. They wouldn't want someone else's currency.

I don't think anyone would try to attack the coin (there would be no economic benefit from doing so). I think that no one would mine on it period, which would make it centralized, which take away from it's (already zero) value

Well if there was any value at all to it I am sure the US government would at least try to ruin the coin. Anything to ruin ISIS most contries would try. If I had the power I would as well.

All from World War II, all essentially the same instance of corruption (if it would be correct to call it that), I mean they were all aiding the same "terrorist" so to speak. Barclays, Chase, UBC. If they were directly enabling Hitler to finance his atrocities then yes, they were accomplices to his crimes...which is why they all eventually came out and admitted doing so many years later. It does not mean that some farmer in Iowa who had a loan with Chase in the 30's was also complicit in Chase's funding or decision to fund Hitler or the Nazis.

Take a minute to think about my original comment...without making broad stretches of assumption...the banks were accomplices to funding wars. This OP, if he/she were to find a way to fund ISIS through Bitcoin would be an accomplice to ISIS atrocities. You and I are NOT also accomplices just because we also use Bitcoin.

Starting to see the difference?

You and I are not saying the same thing.

IT's bad if ISIS use bitcoin
It will leave bad impression for bitcoin & some people will think bitcoin is only for bad purpose

They better make their own fiat / crypto currency like ISIS dollar / ISISCoin

Obama has actually been very friendly towards ISIS. To the point where some might speculate that he wants them to prosper (he does share their religion). It was only recently that he even started airstrikes.

Not only that but it is very difficult to attack a network with any level of effect without first buying/holding some level of the coin, this would essentially force the US to buy ISIScoin which would help finance ISIS

silly OP

no we don't want these scumbags using btc or altcoins. same way I don't want other terrorists (cia) using it either

they should use ripple  ;D

I nominate Paycoin.

Not everybody understand that its neutral...

agreed
that scamcoin would be perfect

I think ripple is too close to bitcoin that it would be beneficial for bitcoin if ripple was used by terrorists. Although ripple is less decentralized then bitcoin it is still generally a decentralized currency and it is not backed by anything or any government

I can't believe there's some fucking scumbags here saying it's bad if ISIS use Bitcoin "because it gives Bitcoin a bad image".

ISIS is a slaving, murdering, fascist organisation that literally brutally tortures and executes hundreds of people every other week to instil terror, strapping bombs to young children and imprisoning 9 year old girls as sex slaves because they don't follow their specific religious sect. They are brutal fascist psychopaths, and the only problem for you is it could be bad for Bitcoin's image? Shame on you.

Well said, sir.

 :o you can get Benefit by deposit Gun and ammunition 

ISIS are people who doesn't have knowlegde and finally they are easily influenced by other Racist people
based on Einstein quote "knowledge whithout religion = blind, religion without knowledge = paralyzed"

Dude fuck that silly relativity about things. ISIS is trash and doesn't deserve to be near the word Bitcoin in any headlines.

OP...

Is stupid

Interestingly enough, radical Muslims already accept bitcoin. Just last night I found a .onion page set up that supposedly belongs to a group that helps American Muslims. The associated address had received ~5 BTC. (Ref: https://blockchain.info/address/13Pcmh4dKJE8Aqrhq4ZZwmM1sbKFcMQEEV)

LOL

I don't care. It might be the only coin out there that is worth mining with old GPUs.

+1+1+1

Typical bitcoiner. Pure speculator with only getting rich in mind lol

.onion link or didn't happen.

I hope he is bullshitting. Would hate to see big headlines relating ISIS with BTC ffs..

But it would drive more traffic to it. All news is news at the end of the day.

OP doesn't seem to understand what fiat money is. The CNN article said they planning to mint gold, silver and copper coins, what would be a commodity currency or at least a commodity based representative currency but not a govt blahblah backet fiat money.
I don't want to mention his moral and ethics as that doesn't exist. He isn't even good for a speculator as BTC value would freefall as soon as ISIS would accept it. Shortly, he must be a retard or a troll.

To ISIS bitcoin was created by infidels, they'd never use it...unless of course they were planning to lose the war for the end of the world (which is what they're fighting for.)

To the people that are so dilusional about everything, i doubt they care who created bitcoin, unless they would somehow bind it with US.
I dont care if they use bitcoin or not, but i hope they fail in their goals and be trialed for everything insane they did.

cheers

The coin would collapse in seconds since everyone hates ISIS and it would get destroyed by speculation hackers etc.

This sounds little awkward, they would never be able to get it anywhere and if they use bitcoin , it's good since police will be able to keep eye on them as obviously they won't be doing just some low transactions

I agree with you. It would most likely not be used by anyone else than them

Lol.. no. Can't tell if OP is sarcastic, but he better be.

ISIS don't need to be convinced to use Bitcoin, they need to get nuked.

Yeah lets ruin the reputation of Bitcoin even more by making some scum bags aware of it and use it to become untraceable and fun killing everyone who doesn't support them.

Holy shit the mentality of some people. Are you really that desperate for Bitcoin to gain attention?

There are 7 billion people in the world, potentially 1 million who live with or are part of this IS shit. Why do you so desperately want their support. How many people will support their currency?

Physical cash is freely flowing in to the ISIS held towns such as Mosul and Raqqa through the porous Turkish border. As long as that route exitsts, they won't even consider BTC.

Using Bitcoin is hard ! Try teaching that to an ISIS-fighter.

Poor BTC. It's taking all the blame in the world.

So sad

Lol... you can't beat the media propaganda created by the bankers and their cronies. Get used to it. A majority of the people believe that Bitcoin is used only for the purchase of CP and hard drugs.  ???

I expect the US and the rest of the West would dearly love to have ISIS adopt Bitcoin - it would make tracking their purchases incredibly easy.

I thought the ISIS was already using bitcoin. Whats the point of creating their own coin, it won't be added by any exchange.

I think you underestimate their commitment to their ideals. Yes, they are psychopaths because they believe in extermination. But they're not schizo, they have an awfully extreme interpretation of their religion. They absolutely would reject something based on who created it or what it symbolized.

To your point, they use cash (likely US dollars), so perhaps currency is just the means to their end.