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Title: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
Fellow Bitcoiners,

The mini rigs have arrived!

Instead of wasting your time telling you how awesome these things are or how easy they were to setup, I'll just post some pics with captions.

Here the rigs are in their full packaging.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o9HPAkdqe6U/T-J2YPUIXUI/AAAAAAAAA6c/Dx5iq002a28/s800/IMG_0274.JPG

Here are the rigs off of the pallet but still in their protective bubble wrap.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RbdMCUxiiSI/T-J2YWzBtaI/AAAAAAAAA6k/ItRUaz-xTug/s800/IMG_0276.JPG

A rig unwrapped sitting on the desk to show just how massive they are.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H80oo2CblB8/T-J2i_WGLUI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/MN-GVG2P6fU/s800/IMG_0280.JPG

Side view of the rig on the desk.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dxy6cXFtU9E/T-J2i_tmabI/AAAAAAAAA7M/TxthxdSv87w/s800/IMG_0281.JPG

All of the rigs racked. Had to rework the shelving since they are over 16 inches tall.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0SyXiLwQlfo/T-J2n8egoQI/AAAAAAAAA7k/v_v73PZQn4s/s800/IMG_0283.JPG

Another one in the rack.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7ThjDxwwxKc/T-J2vfdYTVI/AAAAAAAAA8E/zr4Ksa3_010/s800/IMG_0287.JPG

Everything is working with BFGminer and will be integrated into cgminer as luke-jr works out the kinks conman gets time to integrate it. If you have any questions, ask away!

Best,
gigavps

P.S. You can see the monitoring of the mini rigs at http://gigamining.com/mgpumon/


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: EnergyVampire on June 21, 2012, 01:55:00 AM
Wow, nice!

What is the total hashrate?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: drlatino999 on June 21, 2012, 01:56:45 AM
Holy hell, I really did think I was more likely to see a Unicorn driving a M1A1 through an orphanage on Christmas while being chased by Satan dressed as Mrs. Clause.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 02:06:27 AM
What is the total hashrate?

The total average hash rate in bfgminer is around 103.5Gh/s. BFL has OVER DELIVERED on the hash rate of these things!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: MrCruncher on June 21, 2012, 02:17:37 AM
Super Jelly! Lol. Nice setup buddy.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 02:31:04 AM
Awesome awesome. What's the noise level like? BFL said they were designed to be silent.

EDIT: also, power draw. Wanna see a killawatt on those pls.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Dargo on June 21, 2012, 02:31:49 AM
Ha, ha, those little GPUs in between look awfully pathetic by comparison. It will be truly frightening when you trade these in 50% for ASICs!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 02:36:24 AM
What's the noise level like? BFL said they were designed to be silent.

The are fairly quite compared to a 4x5970 reference rig running at 80% fans. I probably wouldn't run them in my living room though.

EDIT: also, power draw. Wanna see a killawatt on those pls.

I do not have something to measure power draw on 208v. I'm happy taking BFL's word on the power draw side of things.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 02:38:33 AM
I do not have something to measure power draw on 208v. I'm happy taking BFL's word on the power draw side of things.
Yeah OK, and even though the PSU will run on 120v I'm sure you don't want to lose even a second of mining time just for some measurements lol. ;D

I'm guessing they also will be better than BFL's numbers because they are on 208v.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Brunic on June 21, 2012, 02:40:21 AM
Lock your door buddy!  ;D

But seriously, they are impressive.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 02:43:00 AM
Another question, do the front screens show any useful information, and if so, what? Also, what ports are on the back other than power and USB?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
Very nice!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 02:45:35 AM
Another question, do the front screens show any useful information, and if so, what?

The front screens are currently only showing preset information. BFL has stated that this will be fixed in coming revisions of the case / chaining of the PCBs inside the case. We saw the same thing with the singles and as more come out, they will correct these relatively minor issues.

For me, I could care less about the screen as long as the thing is hashing away.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: MrTeal on June 21, 2012, 02:51:02 AM
Wow, very nice.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: phantitox on June 21, 2012, 02:58:57 AM
im literally...

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21300000/Rainbow-Puke-D-random-21329583-500-382.jpg


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 03:00:54 AM
Man, why is it that all the rich guys with mini-rigs never seem to own a good camera... :'(


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 03:03:28 AM
Man, why is it that all the rich guys with mini-rigs never seem to own a good camera... :'(

Didn't have my camera with me. Just the iPhone....

I guess some pics are better then no pics.  :P


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 03:05:14 AM
I guess some pics are better then no pics.  :P
You got me. Something about this thread draws me in like a magnet lol.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 03:07:50 AM
You got me. Something about this thread draws me in like a magnet lol.

It's because it's 100Gh!

I'm not quite sure if many of you have tried to run 100Gh of GPUs. It's pretty much a 10hr a day job.

These things are setup and go.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Cablez on June 21, 2012, 03:09:38 AM
Its so pretty.............I can't imagine what shade of green I am right now. :D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on June 21, 2012, 03:17:46 AM
You can order one now for 2300 BTC.  The first one sold for over 3000 BTC, so things are definitely getting cheaper in bitcoin :)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Turbor on June 21, 2012, 04:38:29 AM
Glad you got them (finally). Really nice product.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Electricbees on June 21, 2012, 05:05:07 AM
Impressive indeed...  :o


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: binspac on June 21, 2012, 05:35:55 AM
Thank you for the pics, gigavps. Those things look amazing! I'm so jealous hahaha.  ;D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: WhitePhantom on June 21, 2012, 05:48:14 AM
What are the HxWxD measurements on one of them?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: SuperTramp on June 21, 2012, 06:10:38 AM
NICE !


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: uuidman on June 21, 2012, 06:51:14 AM
Nice design, lm sure there been some blood sweat and tears building these.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: P4man on June 21, 2012, 08:31:21 AM
Connecting them through USB to a naked motherboard just looks plain wrong! Do you plan on getting some raspberry pis?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BlackPrapor on June 21, 2012, 08:52:03 AM
Congratulations gigavps! Are you going to trade them all in for ASICs?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Grouver (BtcBalance) on June 21, 2012, 08:56:43 AM
Congratulations gigavps! Are you going to trade them all in for ASICs?
I was about to say that.
100 gh/s or 2 th/s... I would know what to choose. :)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: server on June 21, 2012, 09:38:46 AM
Congrats giga and thanks for the pics ! Awesome 8)



Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: MXRider on June 21, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
Speechless


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: sadpandatech on June 21, 2012, 11:11:30 AM
Congratulations gigavps! Are you going to trade them all in for ASICs?
I was about to say that.
100 gh/s or 2 th/s... I would know what to choose. :)

hehe, if I am reading the trade-in program correctly; He currently has $60k worth of equipment. So he will need to buy $60k worth of new asic gear to get full trad ein value for his $60k gear. Which would put him at 8TH.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: lomax on June 21, 2012, 11:52:58 AM
A rig unwrapped sitting on the desk to show just how massive they are.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H80oo2CblB8/T-J2i_WGLUI/AAAAAAAAA7Q/MN-GVG2P6fU/s800/IMG_0280.JPG

This looks shopped, I can tell from the pixels and I've seen quite a few shoops in my tiem.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ice_chill on June 21, 2012, 11:54:08 AM
So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: sadpandatech on June 21, 2012, 11:55:41 AM
A rig unwrapped sitting on the desk to show just how massive they are.

This looks shopped, I can tell from the pixels and I've seen quite a few shoops in my tiem.

HAHA. Aye, the shadows are going in odd directions as well. Also, irl that desk could not support the weight of a REAL mini-rig. ;p

So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners

Yeaaaaa.  *starts handing out pitchforks*


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners

Yeaaaaa.  *starts handing out pitchforks*
/me puts on his robe and wizard hat.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 21, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
This looks shopped, I can tell from the pixels and I've seen quite a few shoops in my tiem.

lulz.

If it were shopped, i wouldn't be worrying that one of them is down at the moment.....

This is par for the course with new technology though, so this is not totally unexpected. Probably just a power supply or some judo trick I need to learn with the MR.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 21, 2012, 12:33:39 PM
This looks shopped, I can tell from the pixels and I've seen quite a few shoops in my tiem.

lulz.

If it were shopped, i wouldn't be worrying that one of them is down at the moment.....

This is par for the course with new technology though, so this is not totally unexpected. Probably just a power supply or some judo trick I need to learn with the MR.

How can you be worried that something that doesn't exists doesn't work?
Haven't you heard mem and galambo? Those things ain't real, dude!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: SaintFlow on June 21, 2012, 12:40:20 PM
Hey GIGAVPS

mark the one you took in service first - it will one day have an enormous resale value to the offical intergalactic museum of bitcoin history!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Morblias on June 21, 2012, 01:10:20 PM
Congrats Gigavps. They look very sexy and I wish I had 1 or 2 of those right now :)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: cmg5461 on June 21, 2012, 01:17:09 PM
Nice :D

I think they should have integrated a controller in the rig so it would displau 25xxx mhash instead of 14 @ 1400mhash


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 01:31:02 PM
Nice :D

I think they should have integrated a controller in the rig so it would displau 25xxx mhash instead of 14 @ 1400mhash

I thought it was 18 * 1400MH/s?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
Fairly sure it's 17 x whatever mhs the cards run at. (1400?)

EDIT: 17 x 1520mhs according to gigavps's 103 ghs across 4 rigs.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 01:37:44 PM
Fairly sure it's 17 x whatever mhs the cards run at. (1400?)

EDIT: 17 x 1520mhs according to gigavps's 103 ghs across 4 rigs.

http://gigamining.com/mgpumon/

We looking at the same numbers? His 52GH/s rig has 36 miners (0-35), and his 26GH/s rig has 18 miners (0-17). Remember they start counting at 0, not 1. ;)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Aseras on June 21, 2012, 01:38:16 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 01:40:19 PM
Fairly sure it's 17 x whatever mhs the cards run at. (1400?)

EDIT: 17 x 1520mhs according to gigavps's 103 ghs across 4 rigs.

http://gigamining.com/mgpumon/

We looking at the same numbers? His 52GH/s rig has 36 miners (0-35), and his 26GH/s rig has 18 miners (0-17). Remember they start counting at 0, not 1. ;)
Hmm, dunno I was going off of old info from other threads so yeah it might be 18 each.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: bitlane on June 21, 2012, 01:51:56 PM
Congrats Giga ! I am jealous.

Those Rigs look awesome.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: cmg5461 on June 21, 2012, 02:28:17 PM
It probably is.  I was trying to remember from some picture I saw in a different thread.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: seriouscoin on June 21, 2012, 02:39:37 PM
Fairly sure it's 17 x whatever mhs the cards run at. (1400?)

EDIT: 17 x 1520mhs according to gigavps's 103 ghs across 4 rigs.

How did you go off of a old thread if this is what you  said earlier?

You didnt count them right.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 21, 2012, 02:50:43 PM
It is 18 units per MR (BFL had mentioned 17 before) - you can see that on the mpgumon page and confirmed with giga...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: WhitePhantom on June 21, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
giga, if you end up replacing the PSU in the one that is down, please let us know which brand/model it uses...Very curious.  Also, have you had an opportunity to take measurements of the mini-rig's dimensions?

Thanks


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ErebusBat on June 21, 2012, 03:18:00 PM
So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners

How is it unfair?  It isn't like he found them in the street.  Do *you* want to write a check for them?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 21, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
giga, if you end up replacing the PSU in the one that is down, please let us know which brand/model it uses...Very curious.  Also, have you had an opportunity to take measurements of the mini-rig's dimensions?

Thanks

+1

There was an earlier picture that showed a Thermaltake box in the Mini-Rig "assemly line".  Assuming that is what they are using but unsure of the model...

Hopefully giga can confirm the issue when he has the time...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on June 21, 2012, 03:21:07 PM
So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners

How is it unfair?  It isn't like he found them in the street.  Do *you* want to write a check for them?

Giga paid for them in full back in February, taking a huge risk.  I think the advantage is well-deserved.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BFL on June 21, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
giga, if you end up replacing the PSU in the one that is down, please let us know which brand/model it uses...Very curious.  Also, have you had an opportunity to take measurements of the mini-rig's dimensions?

Thanks

+1

There was an earlier picture that showed a Thermaltake box in the Mini-Rig "assemly line".  Assuming that is what they are using but unsure of the model...

Hopefully giga can confirm the issue when he has the time...

The PSU's are Thermaltake 1475w - Gold


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ErebusBat on June 21, 2012, 04:32:24 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

BFL has pics on their site: http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/ (http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: cmg5461 on June 21, 2012, 04:50:17 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

BFL has pics on their site: http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/ (http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/)

I have to say, their mini rig looks like it has a lot of quality put into it.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: darkice on June 21, 2012, 04:53:47 PM
So he now has an unfair advantage over other miners

How is it unfair?  It isn't like he found them in the street.  Do *you* want to write a check for them?

Giga paid for them in full back in February, taking a huge risk.  I think the advantage is well-deserved.

Yeap we paid them full back then and everybody laughed at us :) , there is nothing unfair here


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: wogaut on June 21, 2012, 05:03:52 PM
Looking great! *drool*
 :D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: P_Shep on June 21, 2012, 05:07:34 PM
srsly jelly >:(


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: nedbert9 on June 21, 2012, 06:02:23 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Definit on June 21, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Where's your location again?

 ::)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Cablez on June 21, 2012, 06:04:12 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

Yeah, for only 4TH.  ::)

We have our eyes on you giga!!  :o :o :o


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 06:05:29 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

I'm guessing if anyone would know more details about how the trade in program will actually work, he would be the one. Aka what would could you trade 4 MR in for, and how much extra would you have to spend?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 06:06:26 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

I'm guessing if anyone would know more details about how the trade in program will actually work, he would be the one. Aka what would could you trade 4 MR in for, and how much extra would you have to spend?
You would trade 4 MR for 8  4 SC rigs + $60k.

EDIT: Sorry, coffee time.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: MXRider on June 21, 2012, 06:22:29 PM
As far as I know Giga bought four minirigs more. That means it's 16 SC rigs + $120k.

16TH which is more than current network hashrate. No wonder he reserved teraminig at glbse.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 06:26:18 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

I'm guessing if anyone would know more details about how the trade in program will actually work, he would be the one. Aka what would could you trade 4 MR in for, and how much extra would you have to spend?
You would trade 4 MR for 8 SC rigs + $60k.

8TH... That's about 2/3 of the total network speed today!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: davidspitzer on June 21, 2012, 06:27:31 PM
Did I read correctly that the Mini Rigs Require a 208v circuit and not a 110v?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BitMinerN8 on June 21, 2012, 06:30:44 PM
Did I read correctly that the Mini Rigs Require a 208v circuit and not a 110v?

I'm sure that is just to be more efficient, not a requirement.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on June 21, 2012, 06:33:07 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

I'm guessing if anyone would know more details about how the trade in program will actually work, he would be the one. Aka what would could you trade 4 MR in for, and how much extra would you have to spend?
You would trade 4 MR for 8 SC rigs + $60k.


Trade up would be his 4 MR+$60k for 4 ASIC MR


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 21, 2012, 06:36:55 PM
All the details are in the GIGAMINING thread...



Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 06:38:45 PM
As far as I know Giga bought four minirigs more. That means it's 16 SC rigs + $120k.

16TH which is more than current network hashrate. No wonder he reserved teraminig at glbse.
He cancelled the additional 4.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: MXRider on June 21, 2012, 06:40:42 PM
As far as I know Giga bought four minirigs more. That means it's 16 SC rigs + $120k.

16TH which is more than current network hashrate. No wonder he reserved teraminig at glbse.
He cancelled the additional 4.

Good call. He was lucky that BFL revealed their trade program rules.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: davidspitzer on June 21, 2012, 06:41:08 PM
Well I can only guess that BFL is busy because I have sent them numerous emails and left a couple of voice mails to discuss buying a mini rig or two and I have not gotten a response back as of yet


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 06:41:19 PM



Giga, what do you plan to do about trade in?  I guess it's only $60,000 extra in about 6 months.

;)

I'm guessing if anyone would know more details about how the trade in program will actually work, he would be the one. Aka what would could you trade 4 MR in for, and how much extra would you have to spend?
You would trade 4 MR for 8 SC rigs + $60k.


Trade up would be his 4 MR+$60k for 4 ASIC MR
Yes you're right sorry.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 21, 2012, 06:42:44 PM
Well I can only guess that BFL is busy because I have sent them numerous emails and left a couple of voice mails to discuss buying a mini rig or two and I have not gotten a response back as of yet

Par for the course - especially now as they have product to ship...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: davidspitzer on June 21, 2012, 06:45:45 PM
Well I can only guess that BFL is busy because I have sent them numerous emails and left a couple of voice mails to discuss buying a mini rig or two and I have not gotten a response back as of yet

Par for the course - especially now as they have product to ship...

It's a strange consumer experience to tell a company that you have a pile of cash you want to send them and get no response.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 21, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Well I can only guess that BFL is busy because I have sent them numerous emails and left a couple of voice mails to discuss buying a mini rig or two and I have not gotten a response back as of yet

Par for the course - especially now as they have product to ship...

It's a strange consumer experience to tell a company that you have a pile of cash you want to send them and get no response.
Hahahaha


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 21, 2012, 06:49:45 PM
Agreed -we have been dealing with this for 6+ months now  ;D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: crazyates on June 21, 2012, 06:53:38 PM
Well I can only guess that BFL is busy because I have sent them numerous emails and left a couple of voice mails to discuss buying a mini rig or two and I have not gotten a response back as of yet

It's take a few days for them to get back to me. I'm attributing it to the fact that they've probably been a little busy lately. ;)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: byte1 on June 21, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
Why do you want to order a MiniRig now that the new products are around the corner. Just wait a month or two.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ice_chill on June 21, 2012, 07:50:44 PM
Why do you want to order a MiniRig now that the new products are around the corner. Just wait a month or two.

Will see about that  ;D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: davidspitzer on June 21, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
Why do you want to order a MiniRig now that the new products are around the corner. Just wait a month or two.

That is what I want to discuss with them - preOrder, Leadtime, Tradein etc

If the new one ship in October then yes you are right. If it end up being later in 2013 well...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: byte1 on June 21, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
I seriously think it should come out in October, I am waiting for a miniRig, 6 weeks into the order :-). If i were in your shoes, I would wait until they start taking orders for the new product. It does not justify buying a MR now.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Aseras on June 21, 2012, 08:21:35 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

BFL has pics on their site: http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/ (http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/)

they have empty cases and renderings on their site.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Aseras on June 21, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Why do you want to order a MiniRig now that the new products are around the corner. Just wait a month or two.

That is what I want to discuss with them - preOrder, Leadtime, Tradein etc

If the new one ship in October then yes you are right. If it end up being later in 2013 well...

there's no way in hell they will ship in october unless they already have the chips fabbed and are assembling things now.

realistically it'll be october for prototyping and a few more months for production at least. especially for someone as small scale as BFL is.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Pipesnake on June 21, 2012, 08:50:40 PM
Not going to lie...that is some damn sexy hardware.

If anybody is nervous about the impending ASIC doom and wants to unload their mini-rig today - not pre-orders - please PM me.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ice_chill on June 21, 2012, 09:05:24 PM
Not going to lie...that is some damn sexy hardware.

If anybody is nervous about the impending ASIC doom and wants to unload their mini-rig today - not pre-orders - please PM me.

Anyone wealthy enough to have a Mini-Rig will know your offer is not profitable ;D


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Internet151 on June 21, 2012, 11:59:34 PM
You got me. Something about this thread draws me in like a magnet lol.

It's because it's 100Gh!

I'm not quite sure if many of you have tried to run 100Gh of GPUs. It's pretty much a 10hr a day job.

These things are setup and go.

What's causing you to need to spend that much time a day managing your gpu miners?

I generally only need to spend a few minutes a day checking up on my 32 GH/s of gpu's and fixing any issues that may randomly come up.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 22, 2012, 01:48:34 AM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

I sent the one mini rig back to BFL for a diagnosis and some more burn in testing. I'll not be opening one of these puppies up anytime soon.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 22, 2012, 01:51:42 AM
giga, if you end up replacing the PSU in the one that is down, please let us know which brand/model it uses...Very curious.  Also, have you had an opportunity to take measurements of the mini-rig's dimensions?

Thanks

Loose measurements are: 12w x 17h x 19d


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: 1l1l11ll1l on June 22, 2012, 02:06:52 AM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

I sent the one mini rig back to BFL for a diagnosis and some more burn in testing. I'll not be opening one of these puppies up anytime soon.

overnight it?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 22, 2012, 02:10:25 AM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics :D

I sent the one mini rig back to BFL for a diagnosis and some more burn in testing. I'll not be opening one of these puppies up anytime soon.

overnight it?

yup


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Paladin69 on June 22, 2012, 03:08:29 AM
Did I read correctly that the Mini Rigs Require a 208v circuit and not a 110v?

I would like to know this as well.

Also giga, how loud are these?  Can you put something on youtube?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 22, 2012, 03:29:46 AM
Do NOT require 208v...

But like any modern PSU they can run on 110 to 240. 


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Valalvax on June 22, 2012, 06:08:45 AM
How heavy are they? 10-20 pounds? Or more?



Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Inspector 2211 on June 22, 2012, 06:41:18 AM
How heavy are they? 10-20 pounds? Or more?



+1

Gigavps should know - he just shipped one of them back to BFL.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ||bit on June 22, 2012, 07:14:57 AM
Nice rigs gigavps. Makes me feel a little better about BFL and maybe waiting for them to finally deliver. Though, I'm admittedly still miffed about their lag time (been 6 weeks already waiting).
Did you trade in your Singles or are you still using those?

Thanks for sharing.

||bit


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: binspac on June 22, 2012, 08:49:47 AM
Nice rigs gigavps. Makes me feel a little better about BFL and maybe waiting for them to finally deliver. Though, I'm admittedly still miffed about their lag time (been 6 weeks already waiting).
Did you trade in your Singles or are you still using those?

Thanks for sharing.

||bit


You can see the red lights from his singles on the bottom shelf of the left rack in the 5th picture.  ;)


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ice_chill on June 22, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: cmg5461 on June 22, 2012, 11:41:22 AM
Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.

The buyer is fucked


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 22, 2012, 11:49:55 AM
BFL said they weigh 50 lbs.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 22, 2012, 12:08:16 PM
Did I read correctly that the Mini Rigs Require a 208v circuit and not a 110v?

I would like to know this as well.

Also giga, how loud are these?  Can you put something on youtube?

I can post a video when I am back in town in July.

How heavy are they? 10-20 pounds? Or more?

1 mini rig is 45lbs. They are monsters.

Did you trade in your Singles or are you still using those?

The singles are still running strong. They are the most maintenance free mining devices I have ever used.

Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.

Equipment breaks. What IS impressive is BFL's response and how they are handling the situation.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: norulezapply on June 22, 2012, 12:24:32 PM
Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.

Yeah, doesn't inspire much confidence of their extensive "burn-in" testing...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Dargo on June 22, 2012, 12:59:54 PM
Equipment breaks. What IS impressive is BFL's response and how they are handling the situation.

Good to hear, but I expect it's only a matter of time before people pop up to troll about this.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ErebusBat on June 22, 2012, 01:25:01 PM
Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.

Yeah, doesn't inspire much confidence of their extensive "burn-in" testing...

One could argue though that the failure rate after burn-in is very low. 

So lets ask Giga:  would you rather BFL did longer burn-in on all of your units, delaying shipment.

OR send them all and have three in production and have them deal with the situation of a failed one like a rock-star?

Seems like a no-brainer to me.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: bitcoindaddy on June 22, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
Faulty after 1 day ? not very impressive. Now what if the buyer is in Europe.

Yeah, doesn't inspire much confidence of their extensive "burn-in" testing...

It could have been jostled in shipping. The burn in may have went just fine.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Buckwheet on June 22, 2012, 01:40:33 PM
The only reason I didn't order the mining rig was because of exactly what happened here. I am not saying its anyone's fault. Giga is down 25Gh with that machine being down. I ordered all singles just so that if individual singles break down I am not out such a large chunk of hashing power.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ice_chill on June 22, 2012, 01:44:38 PM
The only reason I didn't order the mining rig was because of exactly what happened here. I am not saying its anyone's fault. Giga is down 25Gh with that machine being down. I ordered all singles just so that if individual singles break down I am not out such a large chunk of hashing power.

If you don't want to ship it back, you can take out the individual modules and run them ? will take a bit of DIY.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:46:40 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: rjk on June 22, 2012, 01:49:49 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.
Cool of you guys to pay overnight freight for a 50 lb box. That had to be expensive.

If such a thing happened in the future, how simple is it to swap the PSU? Any more complicated than in a normal PC?


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Buckwheet on June 22, 2012, 01:52:41 PM
The only reason I didn't order the mining rig was because of exactly what happened here. I am not saying its anyone's fault. Giga is down 25Gh with that machine being down. I ordered all singles just so that if individual singles break down I am not out such a large chunk of hashing power.

If you don't want to ship it back, you can take out the individual modules and run them ? will take a bit of DIY.

But like Giga, this is not something I would be opening/messing with on day one.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BFL on June 22, 2012, 01:54:39 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.
Cool of you guys to pay overnight freight for a 50 lb box. That had to be expensive.

If such a thing happened in the future, how simple is it to swap the PSU? Any more complicated than in a normal PC?

It can be done by the box owner.  The processor trays plug into the PCI-E connectors as do the fan walls & LCD power system.  Only the power trip switch is hard wired.

It can be quite a lot of work though and in Gigga's case, it was really our responsibility...   didn't want to put him through that.

In a worst case scenario, the trays can run without a case and just plug into PCIE connectors of a standard ATX PSU.  Their top fans will keep them cool if sitting in open air.

There are no throttle issues with the Mini Rig cards.  The processors exibit performance edge behavior by giving errors and not via throttling.  Overall, they're much more heat tolerant.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: JWU42 on June 22, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.
Cool of you guys to pay overnight freight for a 50 lb box. That had to be expensive.

If such a thing happened in the future, how simple is it to swap the PSU? Any more complicated than in a normal PC?

It can be done by the box owner.  The processor trays plug into the PCI-E connectors as do the fan walls & LCD power system.  Only the power trip switch is hard wired.

It can be quite a lot of work though and in Gigga's case, it was really our responsibility...   didn't want to put him through that.

In a worst case scenario, the trays can run without a case and just plug into PCIE connectors of a standard ATX PSU.  Their top fans will keep them cool if sitting in open air.

There are no throttle issues with the Mini Rig cards.  The processors exibit performance edge behavior by giving errors and not via throttling.  Overall, they're much more heat tolerant.

Thanks for the info - I have a spare PSU just in case...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: jamesg on June 22, 2012, 03:19:44 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.

Thanks BFL!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: ErebusBat on June 22, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.

^^^ This is why I would send money to BFL if I had any :P


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Dalkore on June 22, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
We just need more open communication like this and BFL being clear about what they can.   Because they are the "best in breed", its more like a partnership because we are all in it together from Oct going forward until something else comes along.  I am still moving forward in mining, the rules have changed but that happens.

Dalkore


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: SysRun on June 22, 2012, 07:27:15 PM
GiggityVPS

No bounty this time, thanks for the pics though.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: steamboat on June 22, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.

^^^ This is why I would send money to BFL if I had any :P

now there's a good idea. " All purchasers of X amount of dollars worth of mining equipment may send in their credentials to be used during burn in testing"

though i imagine that'd be a headache if the pool went down.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: BitMinerN8 on June 22, 2012, 08:15:56 PM
It's a bad PSU and doesn't appear to be the fault of shipping damage.  I think this one's on us.  We were eager to get these units out and should have burn tested a bit longer.  We've paid for the return frieght, will swap the PSU and point it at Gigga's credentials while we run it through a longer burn.

^^^ This is why I would send money to BFL if I had any :P

now there's a good idea. " All purchasers of X amount of dollars worth of mining equipment may send in their credentials to be used during burn in testing"

though i imagine that'd be a headache if the pool went down.

Yeah, I had proposed that idea:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77796.msg953731#msg953731

It didn't grow legs though...


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: David_Benz on June 23, 2012, 09:44:22 PM
Equipment breaks. What IS impressive is BFL's response and how they are handling the situation.

Impressive?  Or is that just what they are SUPPOSED to do??  I don't see why giving them credit for something they should already doing is necessary.

Pretty sad that a 15 grand unit is broken, in one freaking day.  I would be livid.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: David_Benz on June 23, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
Equipment breaks. What IS impressive is BFL's response and how they are handling the situation.

Impressive?  Or is that just what they are SUPPOSED to do??  I don't see why giving them credit for something they should already doing is necessary.

Pretty sad that a 15 grand unit is broken, in one freaking day.  I would be livid.

Spot on, it is a fucking joke that they treat giga like this because he is clearly their biggest customer.

Anyone else would not be getting this treatment and probably not even an email in response like most people here report.

I cannot understand people are trusting in this mockery of a company, unless of course you have 100k spare for them to which you will receive preferential treatment as shown in this thread.

Most people on this forum think BFL is the best thing ever lol

Things are getting pretty pathetic around here.


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: psahx on June 23, 2012, 10:48:12 PM
Congrats, Giga, nice setup by the way!


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: mrb on June 24, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
It can be done by the box owner.  The processor trays plug into the PCI-E connectors as do the fan walls & LCD power system.  Only the power trip switch is hard wired.

It can be quite a lot of work though and in Gigga's case, it was really our responsibility...   didn't want to put him through that.

In a worst case scenario, the trays can run without a case and just plug into PCIE connectors of a standard ATX PSU.  Their top fans will keep them cool if sitting in open air.

There are no throttle issues with the Mini Rig cards.  The processors exibit performance edge behavior by giving errors and not via throttling.  Overall, they're much more heat tolerant.

PCI-E? Don't you mean USB? The mini rig card pictures you posted earlier clearly show no PCI-E connector.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75764.msg906496#msg906496


Title: Re: Mini Rigs in the wild!
Post by: Cablez on June 24, 2012, 03:35:58 PM
I think he means PCIe solely for the power distribution. It seems they may use the screw terminals on each board to 'gather' all the power leads to the tray which then plugs into a 6pin PCIE header.
As for data they have the sata connecters per board that get distributed by that control board that was seen earlier.

It would be nice to see more detailed shots of the internals BFL, not just solely because of the neat engineering work involved.